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How is she not fired yet for her behavior?

>> No.2774614

you cant just fire god

>> No.2774635

literally the Ollie of JP

>> No.2774976

She makes money.

>> No.2774984

Keeps her menhara shit on a 2nd account which is smart

>> No.2775011

>>2774635
That's disrespectful to Ollie, Ollie is too young to be Matsuri-tier, she still has a chance.

>> No.2775868

>>2774635
matuli doesn't simp for shitty twitch streamers

>> No.2776043

>>2774494
Cause she is GOD

>> No.2776064

Matsuri won't be fired unless it comes out that she messed around with actual kids.

>> No.2776074

>>2774494
Matsuri has the 2nd highest single stream superchat revenue next to Marine.

>> No.2776108

She hasn't done anything that goes against her contract believe it or not, she's just clingy and socially autistic

>> No.2776120

>>2774494
They are afraid that she would burn the place down if they did.

>> No.2776123

Because Haato took over her in terms of being a yabe machine. Matsuri may have some autodestructive tendencies, but Haato takes it to a new level

>> No.2776214

>>2774494
What behavior?

>> No.2776298

>>2774494
What's her worst spergout, like the one that made you go "yeah this bitch is actually menhera in a non meme way".

>> No.2776377

>>2775868
Say lyger, while matuli suck his cock

>> No.2776545
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2776545

Why are you guys so hard on Matsuri?
She is lonely and sad and just wants to be loved just like you, anon

she fucks up and doesn't know how to deal with relationships because she obviously had problems with forming human connections when she was young so give her a break.
she should be dealt with carefully and with consideration

you'd think she would be the most relatable person in Hololive or maybe you hate her so much because she reminds you too much of your self, anon

>> No.2776578

>>2775011
Both are reckless but in Ollie case it may cause damage for Hololive. She was lucky that she had less backlash than Festival.
Matsuri contributed to build Hololive branch when it was small, Ollie have Hololive name boost her fame.
Matuli's friend are less yabe. Hoshikawa have no intention to exploit Matuli and was straight foward with her. Connor in the other hand, only attack Ollie when ENma told him to btfo. He flirted and sweet talked her to the point she now have a negative view about her job. He then attacked Holo fans and called them "toxic", demanded them to change. He want to be some kind of "hero who expose Vtuber industry" and gain fame, he give no shit about Ollie and will ditch her once he complete his goal.

>> No.2776659

>>2776298
Just twitter stuff. But honestly nothing serious on stream. She was FBK's right hand in the early days after all.

>> No.2776697

>>2774635
but where are the yabs?

>> No.2777064

She has no actual yabs, the only thing that could be one is talking about lolis too much, but no one cares about that, especially in Japan.

>> No.2777160

>>2774494
Her yabs usually are not company-compromising. They mostly only affect her or those involved, but it is just her exploding in emotional fits and going hardcore paypig over someone, she's just very very volatile.

>> No.2777343

>>2776074
No she doesn't, Rushia, Nene and Coco all have higher ones

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>>2776545
You're too focused on comparing her to the reader, as if it was actually you who felt identified and others "must feel this way... right..?"
I'm not very fond of her because of her behavior, the way she copes, you can feel the CRINGE she feels while doing the crazy shit she does sometimes, and it's all to hide how she feels.
I think she's similar to Ollie like anon >>2774635 said on how volatile or reckless she might be, but what's behind this behavior is different. Ollie is being stupid and obnoxious, Matuli is coping and going along with something to entertain whoever likes that, even if she's hurt inside or feels something else.
I wish her well but I don't like her personality.
Also her screams are imprinted in my memory and I have PTSD whenever I see her. I hate it.

>> No.2778262

>>2778078
I feel that she's changed now. She feels much calmer and down to earth compared to her "I've done crazy things" past. Except for her ear-piercing screams. That one won't change but it only came out during horror streams which she actually hates.

>> No.2778466

>>2776578
WTF are.you talking about???

>> No.2778663

>>2776545
I'm not sure what kind of person that pours out flirts like "can I eat your snot?", gropes or deep kisses her same-sex co-workers anons...

>> No.2778707

>>2778262
She probably grew up in a nice family that cares about her, but sort of gone off the tracks somewhere along the way. Those things can be improved with a bit of therapy and...meds.

>> No.2778796

>>2778707
Depression made people go crazy. It was to be expected when she was around that age.

>> No.2778809

she's a degenerate idol but still an idol

>> No.2778876
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>>2776578
They are fucking 2d images on the screen, you fucking dweebs.
What fucking "reckless and dusruptive behavior" are they fucking doing!
Did she insult your waifu!?

>> No.2778920

>>2778876
go back

>> No.2778962

>2776578
gay

>> No.2778979

>>2778876
No, he insulted YOUR waifu.

>> No.2779024

>>2776578
meds

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>>2778920
Yeah, i spoted your silly little thread on the frontpage.
What is she doing that's so awfull?

She doesnt say koniwacha enough, not eating poki?
Fuckin weabo
>>2778979
He?

>> No.2779107

>>2774494
what behavior

>> No.2780752

Very convenient timing for this thread
https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1384881773432160260

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>>2774494
She's friends with yagoo and very good friends with his daughters, if you know what I mean

>> No.2780913

>>2774494
She massages Yagoo's balls every time she fucks up too hard

>> No.2781119

>>2780874
>>2780913
Yagoo is a virgin.

>> No.2781127

Festival belongs to her brother only.

>> No.2781155

>>2776108
That plus lesiban antics in jp culture are seen as arrested development (as you said tism) and most of the holos are too shy to make a fuss. (jp culture again)

>> No.2781171

>>2781127
Whatever happen to her trying to hook up her brother with Hoshikawa, then proceeding to take his place? Is the plan still in the works?

>> No.2781198

>>2776214
She's a pedophile.

>> No.2781201

>>2781119
YAGOO is married...

>> No.2781216

>>2778466
Hi tourist, what you're witnessing here is a /vt/ schizo without his meds. Try to spot the next one.

>> No.2781559

>>2779107
>>2780752

>> No.2781658

>>2781201
And a virgin

>> No.2781669

>>2774494
Matsuri is Japanese girl Please understand

>> No.2781694

>>2778663
yeah, Matsuri sexually harasses her co-workers and should be fired.
Haachama even talked about it and you could tell it made her uncomfortable. She had just returned to Japan, it was her first time meeting Matsuri, and she had to put up with her groping bullshit and explain to her that she didn't like to be touched.
Matsuri takes something that should be fun for the other girls, and ruins it by making them feel unsafe. It's not really different from a manager groping them.

>> No.2781803

>>2774494
>>2776545
>>2778078
>>2780874
get a nose you round ass bitch

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>>2781803

>> No.2782131

>>2781694
She really is living the dream

>> No.2782371

>>2781694
Aqua said that she was very uncomfortable when Matsuri fondled her, but I think you are overblowing it out of proportion

>> No.2782394

>>2782371
*also said

>> No.2782539

Is there a list of everyone she's groped? I know there's Aqua, Haachama, Suisei and Noel.

>> No.2782672

>>2782539
She's being touchy with everyone cause that's just how she communicate until being asked to do otherwise. I only remember her groping Noel, Suisei, and probably Marine with that tit sucking thing. I'm not so sure with Lamy but she's very much trying to.

>> No.2782761

Who did Matsuri deep-kiss?

>> No.2782795

>>2782761
me :)

>> No.2782802

>>2782761
Me

>> No.2782960

>>2782761
>>2782795
>>2782802
I need a rrat on this for when I get home.

>> No.2782973

>>2782761
Roboco

>> No.2783004

>>2782539
Wasn’t Aqua actually the one who accidentally touched Matsuri’s chest during dance lessons?

>> No.2783030

>>2782960
>>2782973
It's roboco, no rrats required, just search youtube for roboco matsuri kiss or something like that.

>> No.2783112

>>2781694
A bloo bloo, Machouli touched my oshi before I did so she's bad. Have sex, psycho

>> No.2783126

>>2783030
The first clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5--YN8FI9k
>clip
I know, the real holocaust still left victims. iirc it happened off-stream but Matsuri once tongue-kissed Roboco and she was not that much into it, this is the closest we have to that and it happened all the way in 2019 i think

>> No.2783196

>>2782973
>>2783030
Many thanks.

>> No.2783242

>>2782371
It's really not overblown. I know you want to give her a lot of slack because she's a girl and a talent, but the fact is, she makes the other girls uncomfortable and she does so repeatedly because she thinks she can get away with it. It's only a matter of time before she makes one of the girls quit because of her. Although, it's more likely that they'll just try to avoid ever meeting Matsuri in person.

>> No.2783392

>>2776214
https://twitter.com/itolife/status/1211306114131714050

>> No.2783508

>tells her fans she doesn't like them
>also tells them to beat off to her
I get mixed messages from her.

>> No.2783544

>>2778707
She's genetically crazy and spent most of her youth as fat.

>> No.2783567

>>2783508
She does like them really, but wants to keep her distance to avoid being hurt. If they get too close, they would be able to hurt her by leaving or criticising her, it's classic hedgehog dilemma.

>> No.2783571

>>2783508
>tells her fans she doesn't like them
Citation needed.

>> No.2783587

>>2783567
But she says she dreams about kissing her fans and marrying them.

>> No.2783623

>>2780752
How dare she like a baby

>> No.2783626

>>2776298
Apex spergout.

I get it, the gacha streams bring in big bucks and dopamine like mad, but come on.

>> No.2783639

>>2783392
What does it mean?

>> No.2783655

>>2783392
Translate it, weeb

>> No.2783663

>>2783626
All I noticed was she was bawling like mad and turned off SC but I didn't think she hated it. If that counts as a menhara moment then Rushia has those too.

>> No.2783664

>>2774494
It's all a work brother

>> No.2783665

>>2783392
>Posting this in the EOP board

>> No.2783709

>>2783639
Shoved pocky in her urethra. rrat is that Festival likes water sports.

>> No.2783753

>>2774494
Sexual harassment between women is not taken seriously by anyone over there, that is why the girls can tell stories about how she felt them up and it's meant to be comedic. And we know from Noel that she doesn't just give a quick squeeze, she really works those nips.

>> No.2783779

>>2783663
Not that one.

The fucking turnament. A lot of people left her because she went full Towa, and then the roommate sperged out about it. Something along the lines of, she likes it and they can fuck off if they don't.

Unicorns were lost alright.

>> No.2783800

>>2783709
It's not even a narrative. She's very open about her fetish.

>> No.2783815
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>>2783639
>>2783655
>>2783665
A exchange Matsuri has with Itou Life. She gave him several pockets of pocky as a "gift" and they have this DM conversation.

>> No.2783861

>>2782539
Matsuri was about to grope Pekora, but Marine, of all people, was there and told Matsuri to stop being a retarded bitch.

>> No.2783875

>>2783779
>she went full Towa, and then the roommate sperged out about it.
Please elaborate.

>> No.2783881

>>2783779
Haven't seen that one.

Unicorns are dumb if they ever thought Matsuri wasn't thirsty as fuck and would love to have way more male company.

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>>2782761
She played the pocky game with Oga Saki

>> No.2783953

>>2783861
Marine knows limits and can read people. that's why she gets along with everyone. Also Pekora would have had a fit, she's aspie but she probably wouldn't have taken it like Aqua and would hold a grudge.

>> No.2783992

>>2783861
Marine is actually pretty sensitive about people's feelings despite her horny antics. She asks them what they are comfortable with and tries to feel out if everyone is having fun or not. That is why introverted girls with ice cold hearts like Pekora or Ayame trust her.

>> No.2784022

>>2783992
Shion is just as withdrawn and defensive as anyone but Marine kinda treaded a fine line with her.

>> No.2784057

>>2783953
>>2783992
hence why
Matsuri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marine

>> No.2784150

>>2776545
I relate to her as a fellow ambrosia enjoyer
https://streamable.com/82pfhc

>> No.2784207

>>2783815

>>2783753

>> No.2784232

>>2783928
wtf i love matsuri now

>> No.2784276

>>2783953
>>2783992
This makes me think she really is serious about being Christian.

>> No.2784281

>>2784207
If your point is she harasses men too, she isn't gong to grab their crotches upon first meeting them either. There is a difference.

>> No.2785138

This both arouses and scares me. I'm a degenerate but I don't want anyone getting Weinsteined.

>> No.2785283

>>2784150
Incredibly based, I hope she gets to drink the slut juice

>> No.2785361

>>2774494
Her behavior isn't seen as anything too bad over in Japan compared to over here, and she is a Gen 1 so she has a fairly high seniority compared to the other holos.

>> No.2785442

>>2774494
What she does wasn't seen as big of an issue until Lamy casually talked about it in her morning zatsudan. In short, she's young, retarded, and harmless.
She's also being herself, there's no character behind that avatar, she's just 100% authentic menhera.

>> No.2785485

>>2785442
Based festival

>> No.2785843

>>2776120
I remember she did say that

>> No.2785894

>>2777343
The other two I'm not surprised but Nene???

>> No.2785917

>>2785442
she's not a menhera dummy, menheras can't be the captain of a cheerleading squad.

>> No.2786028

>>2785917
>menheras can't be the captain of a cheerleading squad.
Oh you naive anon...

>> No.2786064

Sexual harassment is cute when a girl does it

>> No.2786073

>>2785894
If anon is looking at monthly data, she just had her 3D Debut. It was a pretty big event.

>> No.2786107

>>2786064
is hot as well

>> No.2786118

>>2786073
apparently she got so many superchats it broke the youtube service and she couldn't retrieve them all.

>> No.2786132

>>2785894
Nene is extremely cute in her interactions with her audience, that makes people want to give superchats and see her reactions. She also has an international audience with ESLs having found her.

>> No.2786421

>>2774635
Festival doesn't follow trannies screeching about muh orange man like Zombie does.
Festival at least has some self awareness to, at least her menhera is self deprecating.

>> No.2786476

>>2786421
Yes, festival just sexually assaults people. Talking to bad people on the internet is much, much worse. Oh, stupid faggots like you actually think this way.

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>> No.2786778

>>2783571
https://youtu.be/n0mPKmuxJ74?t=103

>> No.2786897

>>2786476
>sexually assaults people
Fucking hell. Learn some perspective and relativism. What Matsuri does is not an assault in any sense of the word.

Women have a greater degree of skin-contact normalisation in most traditional cultures (and in western ones until about 15 years ago). Matsuri makes some people temporarily uncomfortable, but they all like her and get along with her all the same because not everyone is as much a faggot as you are, and know actualy abuse when they see it - instead of defining their entire moral compass on postmodern western bullshit.

>> No.2786971

>>2786672
>is now lusting after a baby
Yeah sure

>> No.2786974

>>2786672
Suisei next to her is thinking "Good taste"

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>>2786672
N-nenechi...?

>> No.2787076

>>2786778
That doesn't even say that she dislikes her fan.

>> No.2787195

>>2783992
marine knows she is a meme, but she seems like one of the most well adjusted holo, most of them are autistic or weird

>> No.2787528

>>2787049
>imagine

>> No.2787566

>>2787195
She said she got depressed without chat for a week.

>> No.2787825

>>2786897
Moron, they only put up with Matsuri's harassment because they're young autistic girls who don't want to cause trouble. There is nothing normal about groping your co-worker you just met, and most of the girls are deeply disturbed by it and repeatedly warn Matsuri, who just ignores it and tries to grope someone else.
Trying to cover for Matsuri just makes you an enabling little bitch.

>> No.2787935

>>2787825
Everything you just said exists entirely in your imagination.

>> No.2787952

>>2787825
I've all but dry humped or slapped the asses of friends male and female.
Stop bring autistic, she's gone too far once or twice but most is played up or done jokingly.

>> No.2788044

>>2787952
Despite your delusions, not everyone at Hololive are friends with each other. She preys on whatever girl is vulnerable in front of her regardless of what their relationship is like.

>> No.2788107

>>2787952
You should've stopped that when you graduated high school.

>> No.2788137

>>2787049
she's too busy thinking about being talked down to.

>> No.2788179

>>2787935
It's real. There are a long list of girls who mentioned that Matsuri groped them and they didn't like it. In this case, it isn't something that can be dismissed as schizo paranoia. Rather, it's just another case of sexual harassment in the workplace, which keeps happening because it's ignored.

>> No.2788186

>>2786897
Your lack of empathy is shocking. Imagine it's your first day working at Cover, and some 20 y.o menhera walks over to your desk and fondles your dick and balls through your pants? And you don't even want to speak up about it because she's the one actually bringing in the yen for the company...

>> No.2788241

>>2788186
Anon, this will just excite him and the point will be lost.

>> No.2788242

>>2788179
ogey

>> No.2788255

>>2787952
>friends
Yeah, not someone you just met for the first time at your job. Use your brain. Also, your friends probably think you're an annoying little shit.

>> No.2788259

>>2788186
?? I would be fucking astounded, best job I've ever gotten.

>> No.2788280

I just have to know if Roberu actually fears her.

>> No.2788285

>>2788179
>Groped
The vast majority are light touches.
Festival is just that fat chick that glomped you in a 00s con.
Creepy, but nothing more than a nuisance, people act like she's a serial abuser terrorising colleagues.

>> No.2788294

>>2787825
>>2788179
>>2788044
>>2788186
How could one girl be so based?

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>>2788137
Head full of Walt Disney

>> No.2788351

>>2788294
She grew up a fat girl in Japan

>> No.2788377

>>2788186
>Imagine it's your first day working at Cover, and some 20 y.o menhera walks over to your desk and fondles your dick and balls through your pants?
I would propose to her

>> No.2788381

>>2788179
There's a big leap between temprary discomfort (which they then reveal in stories because they regard it as a funny interaction) and 'deeply disturbed' you sensitive fuck. What Matsuri does is the female equivelent of a guy towel-whipping another guys ass in a locker room. If it disturbed them, you wouldn't hear it about.

>>2788186
>Imagine it's your first day working at Cover, and some 20 y.o menhera walks over to your desk and fondles your dick and balls through your pants?
You completely ignore my point about the different cultural normatives between genders, so your example is irrelevent. I don't lack empathy. You just lack perspective. I would tell you to go and see the world. But I don't hink you could handle it. Better just to stay at home and keep taking your hormone pills.

>> No.2788813

>>2788186
>Imagine it's your first day working at Cover, and some 20 y.o menhera walks over to your desk and fondles your dick and balls through your pants?
o-oh no
how terrible

>> No.2788952

>>2788381
Many of them were revealed by someone else first, not the victim. Haachama was asked about it and all she said was that she thinks Matsuri knows not to touch her, now. Also, you're trying to compare getting groped/kiss-raped to a towel-whip. It's obviously not the same.
Not sure why you even try to defend it. It would be better if Matsuri just learned to not be a toxic co-worker, which isn't that hard.

>> No.2789221

>>2788952
>Everywhere in the world is like the west.
>Our cultural values that have existed for all of the last 7 years are the correct ones.
>It disturbs me, therefore I must assume it's as disturbing to them. I will insist upon ignoring different cultural standards and assume that it's regarded as just as terrible, but then not wonder why they can speak about it openly with no warning or outcry.

Keep imagining shit.

>> No.2789250

>>2788186
That would be terrible haha

>> No.2789330

>>2785894
my nene is very cute!!!! but >>2777343 is looking at this month's revenue like a baka!!! but nene has consistenly be close to top 10 for months already

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>>2780752
>Those EOP niggers in the replies

>> No.2789532

>>2788186
Now that sounds like a true horror scenario.
I volunteer to take this place so that no one else have to, I will sacrifice myself for the society.

>> No.2790020

>>2789330
Anon, the original post said single stream revenue. The current ranking for a single Hololive stream is:
Marine 1 million subs: $64,077
Rushia 1 million subs: $63,006
Calli birthday: $55,553
Coco monetization : $52,158
Nene 3D debut: $51,865
Coco 3D debut: $49,996
Matsuri *that* Apex gacha stream: $48,485
So actually I forgot about Mori. But it's still an insane total and her million stream which is getting pretty close will probably be even more insane

>> No.2790279

>>2786897
>Women have a greater degree of skin-contact normalisation in most traditional cultures
Fuck no. You males can squeeze each other balls in the changing room for all I care but if a female, a lesbian one at that, fucking fondled me first time meeting, with no purposes or romantic feelings, I would slapped the bitch outta her I swear.
>but everyone likes her.
Well gotta agree with that. But that's just based on what we see on stream, and maybe she's just that great of a person minus the sexual harassment.

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>>2790279
YWNBAW

>> No.2790898

>>2788186
God I wish that were me.

>> No.2790961

>>2789532
Shut up Lyger

>> No.2791027

>>2781694
actually girls groping and committing sexual harassment is based and Matsuri is awesome for doing it and she should do it more often.

>> No.2791444

>>2788280
My impression is closer to him not particularly liking her+fearing the backlash of Matsuri being Matsuri.

>> No.2791603

>>2786897
Yeah, everyone likes Matsuri, except for the people who don't, and she complains about having few to no friends. And people who meet her say she's creepy and weird IRL. She saves it somewhat by being caring online when she isn't being a sex pest, but that's it.

People saying it's normal for Japanese women to grope each other are retarded animebrains. Every single Holo who commented on Matsuri's behaviour said it was uncomfortable and weird. It was presented as funny weird by some, but not by all of them. That means it is not normal Japanese behaviour. The sense I get from watching them is that they eventually put up with it, not that they like it or think it's normal.

>> No.2791636

>>2789221
Oh piss off you retard. You clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

>> No.2792098

>>2783815
ok but can you?

>> No.2792113

>>2783992
aruku sugata wa sensitive

>> No.2792134

>>2791603
YWNBAW

>> No.2792596

>>2788186
>chair clattering

>> No.2792916

>>2792098
yes but it will hurt to pee

>> No.2793190

>>2792134
Cope

>> No.2793528

>>2790279
>tranny
Now it all makes sense.
>I'd have slapped the bitch outta her I swear
Looks like the estrogen is wearing off.

>> No.2793885
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>>2791603
Okay smoothbrain. Let me break your own retardation down for you. I can't possibly make it anymore simple than this.

This is logic you're asking to believe:

1. Matsuri is abusing her fellow employees.

2. This is cultural acknowledged as abuse and accepted as such by those employees and the Japanese culture.

Yet despite this.

3. They talk about this openly with no expectations of any response (from people who you say recognise it as abuse) from either the public nor their fellow employees. In a company well known for curbing and trying to avoid controversy that makes the company look bad no less.

4. And indeed there is no outcry or response - either from the public (who we're supposed to believe share your definition of abuse) or from the company known to protect people from this.

5. After this, most of the people she abused are completely fine with her in most of their posterior interactions showing no further signs of any discomfort being around her or interacting with her.

This is transparantly absurd.

The truth is you're just unable to accept (or perhaps just comprehend) that you're enforcing a western definition of abuse on a country and culture in which it doesn't exist. There is a clear dileation between what Matsuri is doing and what a creepy old man would do that would garner the response and indignation that you're so indignant that Matsuri doesn't receive. Clearly an old man would warrant such a response - because their is an obvious difference between him and Matsuri.

Also the closer skin-ties of females isn't even just a Japanese things. It is far more normal even in western culture for women to touch each other more and sometimes even 'fool around' - hence the proliferation of temporary bisexuality amongst females (which I can find for you) or even just cultural reflections such as that song by Katy Perry et al.

tl;rd Matsuri is based and you don't have to fear anything from her (because you'll never be a woman).

>> No.2794013

>>2793885
They only listen to the Japanese fans so yes.

>> No.2794058

>>2787566
She's an extrovert in lockdown, so not surprising

>> No.2794069

>>2789221
>Matsuri gropes people
>They tell her to stop
>She keeps groping people
Wow, this is definitely a cultural issue and not a shit personality issue.

>> No.2794126

>>2774614
Underappreciated post

>> No.2794181

>>2793885
ah yes, the old "sexual liberation" line to excuse degenerate behavior. funny that you'd argue this using such western cancer.

>> No.2794204

>>2788813
>Imagine it's your first day working at Cover, and some 20 y.o man walks over to your desk and fondles your dick and balls through your pants?

>> No.2794251

>>2794069
>They are traumatised by horrific sexual assault
>Still choose to meet up with her in person
>Only actual complaints amount to "that was wierd"
inb4 muh senpai
Plenty don't collab

>> No.2794280

>>2788952
>Many of them were revealed by someone else first, not the victim
Wow, how convenient, just what your rrat needed.

>> No.2794288

>>2794204
Men and women will never be equal.

>> No.2794350

>>2788952
>victim
>toxic
>kiss-raped
>learn not to X
Shall we start a buzzword bingo, you aren't in a college classroom here.

>> No.2794377

>>2794181
I talk about cultural normatives that have lasted since the start of biology and you want to say I'm talking about a recent trend. Once again you lie and conflate in order to justify your own emotional output.

>> No.2794440
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2794440

>>2794204
the only problem in this scenario is that he isn't sucking me off instead

>> No.2794482

>>2793885
>temporary bisexuality amongst females
kek what a dumb faggot

>> No.2794483

>>2794251
Yeah, because like Haachama said, she thinks Matsuri knows not to do it again, so it's water under the bridge.
And it would be, except that it's a pattern of behavior for Matsuri, who just targets someone else next.
So, rather than wait for Matsuri to cause a more serious incident, it would be better if she were confronted more seriously about it.

>> No.2794541

>>2787935
How new?

>> No.2794552

No one in Hololive thinks Matsuri is a real threat to them and doesn't feel like she "raped" them.
Stop projecting your western insecurities on grown adult women in Japan

>> No.2794554

>>2794483
Hasn't happened yet because japanese non-confrontational culture but maybe during the ID 3D visit she'll pull it on Moona and get slammed through a table

>> No.2794555

>>2794288
How fat, ugly, or old do they need to be before you stop seeing them as women? A sexually aggressive person you have zero interest in is pretty gender neutral.

>> No.2794560

>500 viewers max last stream

festival...

>> No.2794567

what sexual harassment has matsuri done? can someone give me the rundown?

>> No.2794575

>>2794554
>she'll pull it on Moona and get slammed through a table
Do you never watch Moona or are you just shitposting? Moona does weird gay shit in collabs all the god damn time

>> No.2794595

>>2794377
you must be joking. it's just common sense that no one appreciates getting their butt grabbed by someone they just met. not sure why you want to change the topic into some weird culture/biology thing, when you could just acknowledge that Matsuri should be a little more professional.

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>>2794575
where do you think we are

>> No.2794634

>>2794554
she's probably not hitting on the SEA uggos

>> No.2794658

>>2794554
This would be absolutely fucking based but I don’t see Moona being the type to do that.

>> No.2794676

>>2794482
Here this has all the data you need: https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2015/04/17/female-same-sex-attraction-revisited/

And don't call me a faggot, faggot.

>> No.2794718

>>2794552
Japanese culture is all about shutting up and telling someone they hope it doesn’t happen again. They literally let people go in court rooms for committing serious crimes for apologizing hard enough.

>> No.2794743

>Workplace sexual harassment
>Their workplace is digital
>Anytime Matuli has felt up a holo has been at an offline meeting out of character

Where's the sexual harassment?

>> No.2794746

>>2794676
You should also read this >>2794718 post bioautist.

>> No.2794813

>>2794483
Could she just be a overly touchy wierdo?
Nononononono, clearly she is a serial rapist, cleverly targeting the vulnerable, who must be stopped, everybody is too afraid or in deference to go to management.

>>2794718
Lighter sentences yes, scott free, absolutely not when looking at their figures.

Actually take your meds.

>> No.2794817

>>2794595
Yeah, it's a little unprofessional. It's just not tantamount to abuse.

Also, cultural differences are the issue. Depending on time and place things change in acceptability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXkJEZxDGSo

>> No.2794888

>>2794746
>>2794718

That also isn't cultural - it's biological. Kinship selection bias in reproductive strategy determines how high-trust a society is.

Japan falls just behind European in high-trust moral instinct which manifests as an honor culture. It's natural for them, which is my whole point.

>> No.2794987

>>2794888
Look bro I consider being human to be the defiance of the biological impulse. That’s like saying women aren’t human.

>> No.2795004

>>2774635
She's a total menhera but she actually handles herself reasonably well as a hololive member. It's somewhat impressive that she keeps her insanity related to hololive in the endearing-pitiful range.

>> No.2795018

>>2794987
Wait a minute...........
Kek

>> No.2795089

>>2794813
I mean, if she were a serial rapist, she should go to jail, not merely scolded.

>> No.2795090

>>2794987
That's your biological moral instinct talking :)

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>>2788137
>Nenechi
>Thinking

>> No.2795119

>>2786672
It's interesting that Festival and Lofi have a similar age preference.

>> No.2795192

>>2774494
To be completely fair, this is a good question, i mean lets be real here guys don't be fucking retarded if half of the stories about here are true she would straight up be an actual culprit of sexual harrasment

>> No.2795274

>>2795192
see >>2794552

>> No.2795377

Unironically seethe harder.
Nothing you do or say is ever gonna stop her (not that she's doing much bad, a touch isn't rape)
Cover will never intervene and more stories of her antics will surface to the laughs and enjoyment of many.
If she where what you claim she is Hoshikawa would be locked in her basement.

>> No.2796627

>>2782672
>She's being touchy with everyone cause that's just how she communicate until being asked to do otherwise
I Mean that in itself is already an issue, it is not really a justification

>> No.2796674

>>2783242
I Don't know if most of them have enough contact with Matsuri in person to actually consider quitting because of her, but yeah it is definitely not overblown

>> No.2796725

>>2787825
>>2788186
>>2788179
Do you think the rrats about Gura and Matsuri are true then? I don't know how the EN girls would react to Matsuri in person.

>> No.2796761

>>2784057
Because Marine can read people and respect their limits?

>> No.2796888

>>2796725
>Do you think the rrats about Gura and Matsuri are true then?
What rrat are you talking about now?

>> No.2796893

>>2796761
Because Marine is an old wuss

>> No.2798018

>>2796893
Marine is smart

>> No.2798323

it's not a bad thing when a cute girl commits sexual harassment towards other girls.

>> No.2799623

>>2775868
but she does simp HARD for a 100% stacy niji

>> No.2799856

>>2780752
>that miko's UUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOHH
kek

>> No.2800121

>>2776123
schizo arc ended as a nothingburger tho

>> No.2800247

>>2783242
question, marine saying to her that she was feeling horny and matuli felt back (before a collab which I don't remember right now) is a rrat or a case of tasting her own medicine?

>> No.2800332

>>2778876
>she
since when connor is a tranny?

>> No.2801900

>>2774494
Fuck you, your fucking western metallity can't understand our god

>> No.2802062

Yes remember that Vtubers are sooooooooo real.

ITT:
https://youtu.be/8Hfn7-S17r8

>> No.2802624

>>2800247
Matsuri and Marine have groped each other before but nothing came of it because they're not really each others' type, but mostly because Matsuri is impossibly, unrecoverably shy when she's on the receiving end.
Marine would tease Matsuri more if she knew that Matsuri would respond well to it, but she doesn't, so she won't.

>> No.2802764

> Anons thinks this bullshit is real

>> No.2804640

>>2794676
>linking random weird racist blogs
Man, why are there so many /pol/ posters here

>> No.2804985

Why she would be fired, she doesnt do nothing too serious, maybe are little unstable but nothing that will destroy the reputation of company, the people who think that fired a person are so simple never had a job with people how get along. Fire her is like kill her character she will be depressed af if that happend and his coworker too

>> No.2805025
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2805025

>>2780752
UUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHH

>> No.2805987

>>2801900
shes trash

>> No.2809786

>>2792098
Around that time Matsuri suspiciously took a break due to "an infection"

>> No.2810960

>>2798323
it's only culture bro

>> No.2811007

>>2804640
go back

>> No.2811410

>>2804640
who are you trying to fool reddit?

>> No.2811470

>>2774494
she fucks yagoo obviously

>> No.2811936

>>2781694
Yeah yeah, real people and real feelings and all that, but, forced yuri/yuri rape is bliss. Even better when the aggressor doesn't think she's doing anything abnormal.

>> No.2812103

>>2787825
>because they're young autistic girls who don't want to cause trouble
Coco, Lamy, Choco, Aki, and Noel are all at least several years older than Matsuri. She's a mesugaki in their eyes. And it's confirmed by each that Matsuri has felt up all of them.
Coco is bi and always gets the girls to sleep over and take baths/shower with her. None of you faggots say a word.

>> No.2812283

>>2802624
She needs to get fairly drunk and then have the girls get more and more flirtatious with her so she gets accustomed to it. I'm sure Luna would be happy to help her out.

>> No.2812302

>2780752
laugh at me if you want, but this shit will help making l*Iis illegal

>> No.2812484

>>2812302
Please leave reddit, your tourist's ignorance is showing

>> No.2813694

>>2812302
Fuck off, newfag. Your kind only knows how to cancel what it doesn't like.

>> No.2813863

Most pussyfied thread in this fucking board. Jesus fucking Christ.

Go kys, fucking trannies.

>> No.2813892

>>2811936
>Matsuri gets away with groping all the significantly older onee-san types
I'm so jealous holy shit

>> No.2813894

>>2794567
>fondles titties of the large breasted chuubas
>makes perverted comments on stream about vaginas, dicks and sex
>mentioned she wants to drink Hoshikawa Sara's piss straight from the source(said it directly to Sara as well)
>talks about how she meets the girls in offcollabs and tells chat how big their tits actually are
Basically, highly inappropriate in a professional setting or in the West but just a tolerable annoyance to Japanese people.

>> No.2814080

>>2813894
Also she gave permission to her fans to masturbate to her and created an R18 hashtag for her art #まつりは絵っち

>> No.2814112

>>2791027
sekuhara between girls is the highest tier of friendship

>> No.2814150

>>2780752
it's all coming together now

>> No.2814165

>>2813892
sexually transition and move to japan.

>> No.2814176

>>2781658
his wife gets ntr'd every night by a black brazilian model

>> No.2814279

>>2795119
And Pikamee.
>>2814080
A number of Holomem have done that. Flare says go for it but she doesn't want to be told and Okayu said we have permission too. Also Coco said it's cool almost a year ago. Luna has her #sexyLunart hashtag as well.

>> No.2814290

>>2796627
>justification is subjective

>> No.2814394

>>2783753
i only ever see that in anime
didn't know it was based on real life

>> No.2814443

>>2783928
amazing

>> No.2814483

This thread has made me see what a precious treasure she really is.

>> No.2814514

>>2788186
hot

>> No.2814537

>>2814290
Not in that situation. If you smacked womens' asses as a way to open up to them, would anyone consider that acceptable behavior? No

>> No.2814598

>>2814537
if i smacked another male coworker's ass we'd be friends in five minutes unless he was some kind of autist

>> No.2814618

>>2814537
If he was tall and attractive then it'd be okay.

>> No.2814625

>>2814598
Faggot, literally

>> No.2814655

>>2814625
happened to me, i wasn't the one who did it
we cool bros, no gay shit at all actually

>> No.2814689

>>2814625
He said they'd be friends. not fuck buddies.

>> No.2814700

>>2814443
Unfortunately that stream is lost forever as it was on the channel of the now retired Umori Hinako. Saki was the aggressive one here. Matsuri tried to grope her only to find out the virtual Gyaru was mote degenerate and assertive than her.

>> No.2814701

>>2805987
shut it, retard
smoothbrains cannot comprehend our god

>> No.2814819

matsuri threads are fucking wild

>> No.2814958
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>>2776545
>She is lonely and sad and just wants to be loved
Luna loved her, and she was rewarded with the Hoshikawa card, and Matsuri instead likes to expose how lonely Luna is, how few friends she has on Line, and when Luna backtracks her rejected feelings and treat her like a benefactor instead, Matsuri demands forcefully a reaction to her song in Luna's birthday.
Menhera deserves to remain alone.

>> No.2815342

>>2814819
It's just concern trolls.

>> No.2816210

> These niggas think the Vtuber shit is real.

>> No.2816334

>>2816210
>These niggas think Japan is real

>> No.2816497

>>2816210
>>2816334
its all a lie.
https://youtu.be/o92zZV0-_nw?t=51

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>>2788186
>Imagine it's your first day working at Cover, and some 20 y.o menhera walks over to your desk and fondles your dick and balls through your pants?

>> No.2817214

>>2796725
>Kiara meets Matsuri
>she takes the chance and literally rapes her
>Kiara screams rape in social media
I hate Kiara

>> No.2817219

What's wrong with the world today?
Everything's gay, and it's not okay.

>> No.2817282

>>2817219
Everything has always been gay. You don't need to think much about it.

>> No.2817306

>>2817219
gayness is peak masculinity

>> No.2817311

>>2817219
I think it's ogay

>> No.2817349

this thread is gay

>> No.2817416

>>2817214
>jenma knows

>> No.2817912

How long do you think it will be before some twitter activists try to cancel Matsuri? Between the groping and lolicon stuff, I'm surprised it hasn't happened already.

>> No.2818007

>>2817912
Does this count?
https://twitter.com/urbannightmare_/status/1334711697454620674?s=21

>> No.2818146

>>2818007
Almost everybody in that case went in defense of Matsuri. In the case Coco, Haachama and Matsuri gets the boot, it's the end for cover. It would be awesome if those three just create their own independent unit.

>> No.2818156

>>2814279
There's also that one Tree Rrat who's literally asking for more lewd arts of her

>> No.2818232

>>2818007
Not really. They have no clout and anyone who tries to gets ratio'd to oblivion. Many of them get suspended for mass reports of targeted harassment so they wouldn't dare to. I would personally spam their DMs with death threats/dox until they go crazy or kill themselves if they ever touch any Holos.

>> No.2818263

>>2818232
You have evolved far beyond the point of meds saving you.

>> No.2818268

>>2818007
>49 lieks
kek get ratio'd faggot

>> No.2818304

>>2818232
Based

>> No.2818312

>>2818268
49 *replies you retard you idiot you absolute faggot

>> No.2818323

>>2818232
What the fuck is a ratio?

>> No.2818387

>>2818323
In twitter terminology, a ratio is when you get more replies than likes. It implies that the post was very unpopular or at odds with the community.

>> No.2818536

EN niggas be like
"Hm I have 0 understanding of Japanese, I get my information second hand from out of context clips translated by little brown men who live in huts, and I'm retarded, I guess today I'll try to accuse a japanese girl of being a rapist"

>> No.2819144

>>2783815
what a CHAD

>> No.2819271

>>2818536
You are a literal retard anon if you think that. Nobody called her a rapist, this is your copium to ignore the real discussion. Sexual assault is a legal term for very specific behavior which Matsuri has engaged in. I would respect you faggots more if you just admitted you think women sexually assaulting other women in any context is funny and not a big deal. Instead you play semantics and obfuscate reality.

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>>2819271
time to go back

>> No.2819425

>>2819271
go back to your twitter soapbox, no one cares faggot

>> No.2819487

>>2774494
too many eop cretins but marine just said in the zatsudan stream today that matsuri is unironically a seiso in off stream and her trash ero talk is like business

https://youtu.be/Ay1IJN2AeMg?t=517

>> No.2819495

>>2817306
t. Yukio mishima

>> No.2819520

>>2819487
Marine love

>> No.2819556

>>2819487
DESU that's pretty obvious. I've seen a lot of people watching Matsuri for the sex jokes and came out slightly disappointed.

>> No.2819561

>>2774494
The language barrier protects her from EOPs on twitter and reddit.

>> No.2819618

>>2819556
Didn't know writing to be honest would change it into desu now

>> No.2819701

>>2819271
>I would respect you faggots more if you just admitted you think women sexually assaulting other women in any context is funny and not a big deal
Dare I say it's problematic

>> No.2819745

>>2819271
>funny
*hot

>> No.2819944

>>2794676
>https://jaymans.wordpress.com/2015/04/17/female-same-sex-attraction-revisited/
My mans really linking the word press blogs like they matter

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>>2786672

>> No.2821340

>>2774494
cause people would freak out if cover fired someone again
like they did with the towa yab
why is that something you like want

>> No.2821531

>>2788186
my dick anon, my dick

>> No.2822731

>>2819618
>now

>> No.2822744

>>2819342
>>2819425
Not sure if you’re aware but I’ve only seen that level of logic put together on forum sites like this, he’s in the right place.

>> No.2822779

>>2819618
>now
Jesus Christ...

>> No.2822916

I want to fuck the menhera out of Matsuri.

>> No.2823856

>>2819271
>copium
Only SEAnigger twitchfags use this word, please end your life.

>> No.2823932

>>2819495
Fucking kek, based JP literature anon.

>> No.2824058

>>2817349

And fake as fuck like all Vtuber shit

>> No.2831903

>>2793885
good lord you need to be an actual sociopath to believe this shit

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