/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2737194
Reposting my garbage voice since I don't think many saw it:
https://voca.ro/17eEl0u7pXjk

>>2737292
can you do one in your normal room because the echoes from the bathroom walls makes it difficult to tell (unless you're planning on streaming from the bathroom). basically, give us the voice you're gonna give us when we join your channel.

Imagine you have a daughter, you work hard to raise her right and give her what she needs to succeed in life, give her an education and love her every step of the way. Then one day when shes grown up she comes up to you and says "dad i wanna be a vtuber" that's what you femanons are doing to your parents. Think about that.

>>2737292
>>2737356
What anon said. Consider doing some of the audio hacks in the pastebin links to help deal with any audio issues

>>2737403
my brother cried like a bitch at his banking job and left after a month I think I might be slightly less of a disappointment than that

>>2737403
fucking based. chasing their dreams and taking advantage of technology that didn't exist in my time to engage in a field that makes her happy. as a burned out millennial who listened to rich white boomers and believed the lie of bootstraps and shit, fuck that shit. reject tradition, embrace vtubers. fuck it, i'll pull out $5k from her college fund that i got stockpiled from GME stocks and get her a pimped out model and everything to support her.

Reminder that there is no such thing as a "bad voice", only a voice that doesn't match your character design.

That being said, post a vocaroo and what your design is based on.

i'm glad we're getting ritual posters.
-vocaroo
-short term / longer term plans
what other ritual posters are we getting here aside from the low effort bait from tourists?

i have been vtubing for about 9 months i started like a week before it literally exploded which fucked up my growth a lot. i also developed an insane amount of hatred for "uwu" type vtuber bc of how overused they are and how they just instantely turn on people and "cancel them" like the whole loli vtuber thing that happened a while back which i was kind of related too in a way. my dream is to one day have an audiance big enough to not feel lonely so maybe 30 people with 5 talking in chat

USE TIKTOK.
>Griffon Burns, voice actor of Childe/Tartaglia from Genshin Impact doing dumb shit in his character's voice
https://youtu.be/mw3ex4POxXY?t=119

>>2737403
I would be heartbroken, i hear all fhis femanons lowering themselves to chase this.....i don't even know what to call it "career". It's ridiculous, it's embarrasing, to know that they have such little respect for themsleves, their parents, their family and even their community where they have to go chase dreams of this pseudo prostitution. Practicing and building live2d models and for what? So some otaku loser from who knows where throws 5 dollars at you. Is that how little you think of yourself femanon? Is this a not so subtle way to get back at your parents? I just don't understand how a women can look at herself and say "yes, this is what i want, i wanna be parasocial fap bait for some loser on the other side of the screen". All the work, all the hard hard work your parents put into trying to make you a respectable women, femanon, and this is how you repay them? I just don't understand. I can't, its heartbreaking to see a women throw her life and her potential away just to become some masturbation aid for socially stunted men. Please rethink this "goals" femanon, rethink your future and start loving yourself.

Tourists are getting weirder each day...

>>2737692
its still better then the one who start an onlyfan at 18 at least and most of the time people pursue careers like this bc its easy and nothing else lol

someone needs to make a /pol/ themed vtuber now. big tiddy white haired anime girls is a niche i need filled yesterday

I'll check the thread again once the tourists are gone.

>>2737845
Be the change you want to see in the world anon

I'm using a scarlett 2i2 and at2035. Is this enough to start for voice and singing streams? also, what is everyone's opinion on singing? I'm just okay at it but I have fun doing it

>>2737845
i wish i was a woman i would be a white haired blue eyed white vtuber to dog whistle to my fellow /pol/ bros

>>2737973
>equipment
Yes, those will be fine. The average viewer will have no fucking idea what sound quality is and the Youtube/Twitch encoding is gonna fuck it up anyway. Plus, unless you're doing ASMR, your viewers probably aren't listening to you with the best headset so it's not like the quality will actually matter to them.
>singing
As long as you're having fun.

>>2737194
I know that /a/ is usually trash, but their hated for Eizouken is truly detestable.

>>2737991
>>2737924
same desu famalam sempai

>>2737692

>>2737994
>>singing
>As long as you're having fun.
Why do I feel like you're saying something between the lines?

>>2738054
because i'm just an anon conveying my thoughts through emotionless text and you're applying your internal worries as a tonal inflection as the voice reading my text in your head. as long as you're having fun and the audience knows you're having fun, and they have fun too, who gives a shit?

>>2737845
yoro yoyo has the dictator look but i'm not sure if you're also looking for a vtuber that would say things you'd expect from /pol/

I want to at least try streaming but I live in a shitty one-room flat where the walls are thin and the balcony is right there next to my PC.

>>2738392
Ghost rider became an iconic part of Cali stream at the start. So I wouldn't worry about the balcony noise too much

>>2737292
robot maid voice

>>2738088
wtf how are you so eloquent

>>2738427
More like, if I were to do it I would most definitely want to sing, but I'm not risking complaints from my neighbor. I know he hears me because I hear him when he speaks on the phone.

>>2737592

drop your twitch Ill watch you

I like almost all the chuubas here that started recently but respect to the old guard

>>2737845
yoro is exactly what you want but with less autism

>>2737592
what's your channel? seems comfy and i wanna watch

>>2737403
"Who the hell let you out of the basement?"

>>2737496
>Reminder that there is no such thing as a "bad voice"
Truer words have never been spoken. Newcomers should take this as gospel

I see too many people say their voice is either too deep or too high, or too ugly or too monotone, but those are all GOOD ATTRIBUTES to have if you know how to properly lean into it and set your brand around it. Even the ugliest disgusting voice is a plus if your design is an evil witch.

>>2737403
>>2737692
literally only thing that will disappoint me is if they're gay, trans or not have children.

>did a practice stream on personal twitch to some friends
>had some minor technical difficulties but otherwise went well
>went for 3 hours, noticed my voice starting to break towards the last 45 minutes just from general lack of frequent use outside streaming
>somehow managed to grab random clicks even though I'm not even pnogtubing yet, just doing reps
I guess I should take this as a good sign?

>>2737439
What the fuck happened at that bank?

>>2738546
>uploads once a month
dude wtf? and they're 3 minute clips too

>>2738546

yoro is so fucking cute, she awakens the sadist in me

>>2738956
She streams on Twitch
Before you start with "twitch bad" it's totally fine, just stick to your own corner of the site

>>2738956
she streams on twitch and I guess just doesn't upload most of her content to her yt channel

>>2738924
nothing, it was just the first time he's ever had to work hard in his life

>>2737292
Warm and inviting, very nice. Like others said though, maybe invest in some sound deadening to stop that reverb.
>>2737403
I would support her and ensure she stays healthy. Maybe even make snacks for her while she streams so I can embarrass her in front of her virtual friends.

>>2737592
If you're female, you might need to rethink your game plan. If you're male, that's just how things are.

>>2738956
YOOOOOOOOOROOOOOO YOU LAZY ASS UPLOAD NEW CONTENT FOR YOUR YOUTUBE

My goal is to now collab asap as a male vtuber and then stealth commission really saucy yaoi hentai between me and my collab partner and start a grass roots movement to make every collab saucy as fuck. but i'll be 100% seiso, so the only thing you feel is the sexual tension that can only be relieved with the fanart.

>>2740332
The long con

>>2737496
What if I have no designs yet? I have an idea for a theme but I'm filthy poor to commission a design just yet.

>>2740734
frankenstein something together using stock photos and shit. bonus of being a vtuber is that you can commission a cheapo $25 pngtuber model of yourself, start streaming, then decide to commit to a Live2D or change something up.

>>2740734

how poor could you possibly be, just save up like 30-50 bucks and get it commissioned by some starving twittercuck artist

if you literally have no money, there has to be something in your garage that you can sell for 50 bucks on rapelist

>>2741197
If you literally have no money, you'd just make everything yourself like a lot of japanese indies do and improve it stream to stream/between a wagecuck job at the konbini.

>latest windows update fucked up AnyoneVtuber
>dev is some japanese dude
fuck this shit

>>2737525
post latest stream higlight clip?

>>2741631
i think the general consensus of this thread is that (outside of a couple) no one who wants to start out as a vtuber here wants to be associated with 4chan. so linking highlights of the channel will probably be out of the question.

>>2741648

I'm more afraid of being told by 4chan that I suck. This is probably the best place to get an honest opinion since everyone's anon

No matter how much positive feedback I get from viewers or even the twittersphere, cant shake the suspicion that everyone's just lying

>>2741720
big doubts on that claim, anon. especially given that over the last multiple threads, the number one issue is having your channel be associated with 4chan. i have almost never seen anyone mention that they give a shit about "being told by 4chan that [they] suck".

that's the entire fucking point of posting vocaroos and shit to /asp/, to get unfiltered anons commenting and shit. why would anyone be "afraid" of 4chan as it relates to that?

the general consensus is less "fear" of getting told that we suck and more of being "associated" with 4chan by having early voice recordings or channel vod connections linking back here.

>>2741837

I'm not debating against what you're saying, you're probably right.

Just putting in my two cents on why I dont self-post on 4chan. I don't give a shit if my normie viewers know I'm on 4chan

>>2737403
unironically if I became successful my parents would be happy regardless of the career.

>>2737194
Only piece of advice I can offer is: Don't do collabs.

And if you're going to do collabs, do it on ONE stream.

People watching you want your attention, if you're just having fun with your friends then what's the point in watching?

>>2741648
vtuber being associated with vtuber board on anime forum,

i mean this is like the core audience you are aiming for (before expanding to twiter/disc/twitch randoms)

How starting with an origin type of video rather than a standard debut sound? I'm thinking about putting together a minute or two long thing and keeping it pinned to the top of my Twitter, and then maybe expanding upon it after so many followers or whatever

>>2743487
A lot of people who have numbers did it, so it seems to be a good idea.

>>2743563
Thanks anon, you wouldn't happen to know any off the top of your head do you?

Anons I know lore is pretty much pointless in the grand scheme of things and that pretty much no one cares about it but i still really want to do a lore video at some point the only problem is i cant draw, animate, or really do ANYTHING so i dont even know how i would go about it

>>2737403
>american education
>mass education
implying indie ways of making cash is not 100000 times better

>still no views aside from mine
i don't feel so good anons

>>2745482
Just draw or animate even if its bad. If its bad make sure its unique enough that someone can look at it and enjoy like a bad movie thats fun to make fun of compared to a bad movie thats just boring.

How do you come up with a solid theme for your design?
I've been thinking of doing the vtuber thing & I got a friend to come up with a design, but I didn't realise until after that I didn't think of a theme or personality for him other than "cute angel boy"

Pic related is the design so far, any tips?

>>2748091
That's pretty good. Very original for a "cute angel" which would end up super generic in the wrong hands

General reply to all the "why would you make this a career etc etc" tourists even though it's bait so who cares

You do realize you can still have a normal job and stream at the same time? Especially with the vtuber model, even some crazy successful vtubers only stream like max 5 hours a day and don't stream everyday. There's a lot going on in the backend, but still.

>>2748091
Nitpick, is he an elf and angel? For some reason it bothers me to be both, thematically wise. Though there's no real solid reason. Nitpick aside it's a good design, cute!

>>2745482
What >>2745645 said. Put your back in it. If you can't draw, go for something super simple, hell go for stick figures, but make something.

So if I wanted to create an outfit design, would it be possible for me to send to an artist a picture of a character creator from a game (for instance, Code Vein)? I would kind of like to get my character to have like a new outfit but I’m not good at using collages and stuff

>>2749043
I don't see why not, if it helps you get across your ideas to the artist then go for it

>>2749043
As long as you ask for changes on it so they're not directly copying the individual pieces of clothing (assuming they're somewhat complicated) they should feel fine about it.

>>2749043
Artists love a moodboard if you have no existing references. You can literally just cut out clothes from images in paint if your options are that limited.
If you're that worried about it though, and you have an artist in mind already, ask them directly.

>>2749043
Of course, although just make sure that the artist changes it enough to avoid copyright.

>>2745590
post your youtube, lets give you some constructive criticism

I feel like I'm ngmi desu

>>2748168
>>2748904
Thanks for the feedback, I'm probably just overthinking things

by the way if anyone has any suggestions for the colour scheme I'd love to hear it
I'm not too sure on the blue & I have a red version too, but I'm thinking of maybe going with yellow

>>2750553
I like the red as a February variant or something but the blue feels much more in line with your concept. Red is more cupid-y

>>2750553
Kinda makes me think of Danny Sexbang a little bit. Which isn't a bad thing.

>>2750553
This is also cute, but I agree that blue fits more into the angel theme, if you continue to go mostly mono-color.

>>2737403
what's the problem? it's better than being an irl streamer or tiktok star where she's showing her face and name (and probably more) everywhere

>>2748091
>>2750553

I love the halos, they’re so cute.
The blue is way more readable. The red comes across as Cupid-y and muddies the theming a bit.

What kind of voice do you have? This character is giving me twink vibes, might be a little weird if you have a voice like a tuba.

>>2749615
>>2749227
>>2749192
>>2749168
Alright, I used Code Vein to make a prototype design; it's on unsee.cc (I already have a normal avatar but I'm planning on having this as an extra outfit)
I'll delete after an hour or so
What do people think? Is it bad or overly generic?

>>2751593
Generic, unfortunately. Remember that most people are just going to see a bust. It's a girl in a side tail with nothing distinct on her face or head. Okay a tie with side accents that's...interesting? But your decals won't save a nothing burger head and face.

>>2751742
Unfortunately Code Vein doesn’t quite allow me to put the accessories I would want, but there would be head accessories; I didn’t really feel like editing them in though

>>2751742
Not this anon although I agree with his sentiment
>>2751593
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong or bad with the design ,it's just that it needs something more to stand out, unless you're planning to be carried on content alone. If the artist you'd like to contact has a vibrant and distinctive enough artstyle, it could work, otherwise you might want to play around with clothing at least. What kind of accessories were you thinking about?

>>2752119
Yeah of course; I already have a few modifications in mind to it specifically head-wise (my current model, which is from the same artist, has the same kind of accessories that I’m talking about but has bland clothes desu; I made a mistake of choosing to have the clothes as bland as they were then)

I’m thinking of making the lower half a little different, but also making the tie themed around my character theme rather than just a normal tie in this as it looks like (I also already have some hair accessories in my current model; this would just be a separate outfit or something)

I really have zero clue what anons are saying when they say you need to "stand out" because none of the consistently solid /wvt/s have designs that "stand out"
- mess blue hair with a shirt
- sleeveless collared shit with a simple tie (cat girl even)
- a woman
stop getting caught up in the design and realize your content is what makes or breaks you as a streamer. don't give me that bullshit about "but what if a random clicks on you because your design is good" no one gives a shit. people will share and shill you alike if they see you making good content regardless of design.

>>2752355
this desu, the real deal is content. The design of your clothes and model only begin to matter once you start pulling in numbers and even then it's more of a thing to have your fans look forward to, not something to attract new people with. Your voice and mic quality are more important than your design.

>>2752355
My main issue is, I have currently got a design which is already mine, but at the same time it clashes quite a bit with regards to colours
I feel like that does actually have quite a bit of an effect on how people see someone; you look at most successful Vtubers and they usually don’t have colours that clash horribly with one another, whereas mine feel like they do desu

>>2752473
>most successful Vtubers and they usually don’t have colours that clash horribly with one another,
?????????

do you have any examples?

>>2752496
>posting Kiara
>whose design is good and does not clash colour-wise
How? You do realise her colour palette, while maybe annoying to look at, definitely fits well together?

>>2752577
I think he just used it as a reaction image lol

>>2752473
>it clashes quite a bit with regards to colours
https://paletton.com/
Pick either "Adjacent" or "Triad" and use those colors to fill in your design. Example, this might work for some ocean-y or river-y design with the blues and green highlight.

>>2752641
Try the “opposite” or whatever it’s called. Orange is diametrically opposite the lazuli blue that liars has, making for a contrast. Also, flames are blue and orange, which makes sense for a phoenix

TL; DR anon-chama, your color theory reps...

>>2752934
“liars” = Kiara because phoneposting

>>2752934
>Orange is diametrically opposite the lazuli blue
>This will surely become the mainstay of my content and the reason why people keep coming back to me.
Again, no one gives a fuck. Just pick a design that doesn't have clashing colors and start making good content.

>>2752991
Come on anon while making content is very important nobody wants to watch a vtuber that looks ugly and bland

>>2753049
>nobody wants to watch a vtuber that looks ugly and bland
>loli with bangs in hoodie exists
you're overthinking it. no one gives that much of a fuck.

>>2753119
fuck you anon sans shark is cute

>>2753263
>is cute
there you go. this is how low the bar is. there wasn't an eloquent discussion about how the design 'stood out' and the contrasting colors or blue highlights of her hair showcase her innocent qualities, or how the little shark motif hair clips only tying a small side ponytail shows her youthfulness or whatever the fuck. none of that shit.

it's just cute. that's literally how far your average viewer will take the design mentally. stop overthinking your design.

Some retard in the Department of Education gave me a $1000 covid relief grant without specifying what to use it with. Based retarded politician enabling my autism

>>2750970
Pretending to be an anime girl while flirting and being lewd with goslings for suppas, is not that much better.

>oh what does your daughter do?
>she works for a marketing company, yours?
>oh she pretends to be japanese cartoon while she flirts and periodically sexualizes herself with strange nerds online in the hopes of getting money thrown at her.

>>2753931
Homie gave you a red supa and you insult him, SMDH these damn ENchubbas.

>>2753987
>akasupa from DoE
kek

Is there a recommended soundboard? I'm gonna try voicemail but something about it's branding rubs me the wrong way.

>>2754029
>Voicemail

Meant to say voicemod

For male chuubas what are some things to keep out design wise if I'm getting an artist to design it. I know hoodies are really generic but what other things should I stick away from when getting the character designed? You say content matters but I've seen people say that they clicked off some ones stream because the design wasn't interesting.

Is there any documentation or FAQs about how to use Vtuber Studio?
I tried to setup it but it couldn’t recognize my face, even with my iphone connected.
I tried to google it but I have a mac and it seems that I’m the only one with this problem

>>2754404
>I've seen people say that they clicked off some ones stream because the design wasn't interesting.
so you're like, shoulder surfing people in their homes as they click on chuubas and then watch them close out as they muttered "boring design"? they're not even the viewers you WANT in your channel, so why try to pander to them?

>>2754015
Hey, at this rate you could have the entire US goverment as your simps,
You gotta think big Anon!

>>2754404
Ugly design almost always means boring content on top of ugly design. Few people watch male chubas for the design alone.

>>2754462
I should have said "read" not seen. Every once in a while ill go into wvt looking for indies to watch and I've just seen some posts talking about designs being bland and not watching because of that. I guess I wouldn't want viewers that are only interested in my design and instead interested in my actual content.

>>2754596
Those posts usually come from retarded coomers. Barring those morons, few chuubas are unwatchably ugly, and I can practically guarantee that it was boring content on top of a non flashy design that got to them, not the design itself.

>>2754596
i have no idea what you're talking and i'm literally multithread drifting /wvt/. the only time i've seen that argument come up with the frogposter bitching about "unoriginality" while being unable to provide examples of "originality" himself

>>2754726
every frogpost should be ignored, it's either an irony filter or election tourist shibboleth

>>2754672
Got it.
>>2754726
I could just have misread it. I think it was a few weeks back that I saw some discussion like that. I don't usually go in those threads. I maybe saw the frogposter thing but I don't remember.

anons, i have no experience with management, nor do i know the in and outs of vtubing, but a friend is getting into vtubing on twitch and has asked me to help her moderate, are there any resources for me to learn how to mod? Am aware the mods's reflect the streamer as well so i dont wanna fuck this up

also any less obvious problems that may come up that i should be aware of? want to do the best i can bros

people are more concerned about their avatar and voice over the content of their youtube channel, holy shit

>>2754988
It's all important anon.

>>2755235
>It's all important anon.
it's really not.

>>2755258
>>2754988
Mind posting your stats?

>>2755258

It is. If your voice is crap nobody wants to listen to you, same thing with your model/design. Content is still king, but it is a debuff if your voice/model aren't good. That's why holo/niji doesn't get ass looking artwork

>>2750051
talking about holo audition views

you don't need a complicated design. just give it characteristics that make it unique and recognizable. think gura, her design is as simple as it gets but it's unique.

>>2740332
Sounds like a Vtuber Sykkuno and Corpse knock-off desu. But seeing their success it could end up working out for you.

>>2754962
I modded a few communities including a forum with a few thousand viewers before, but nothing chuba-wise. Just don't power trip, that's literally all. If there's any drama on the horizon, stamp it out ASAP. Ban spammers because there are bound to be tards invading the channel spamming le epic funny xd shit if it gets virtually any raction.

As far as vtuber specific advice... I guess maintain kayfabe, protect the identities of everyone involved (yourself included, don't use any main account to mod), keep an eye out on drama and maintain a degree of distance from yourself and the chuba if in chat. Behave like personality-devoid management, I'd say. You could have a gimmick like Ina has The Ancient Ones, I guess, but don't engage with the chuba on-screen, maybe? I don't know how good of an advice this is.

>>2755786
Youtube's view count system is not accurate. Relax.

>>2755597
show me an example of a unique model or design that's carrying shit content that isn't Artemis who is literally burning hundreds a week cash to try and market their avatar

>>2756238
Not that anon but isn't Artemis one of the only indies with an actually professional-level model design and rig-wise? That just goes to show how much of a buff your model can be once you get to the "this actually looks like it could be an iconic character design for an anime MC" tier of quality.

>>2756325
>isn't Artemis one of the only indies with an actually professional-level model design and rig-wise?
cool, so the advice you'll give anons here who are starting out is
1 - don't pngtuber and make content
2 - drop $4k on a rig and model
3 - do so right before HoloEN takes off you can ride their coattails
great advice, i'll take it to heart.

>>2756325
Artemis rode the Gura popularity wave.

>>2756365
>>2756238
For real do you mind posting your stats

>>2756537
yes, i do mind, fuck off.

>>2756365
No need to look at things in such a black and white way anon. The fact of the matter is that if you're rich then doing what Artemis did with his model commission is a reasonable way to invest your funds as would be buying/building a CPU with the proper specs, taking a couple vocal coaching lessons to find your best speaking voice, and buying a fiber/high speed internet plan. You can make do with a png just as you can not bother to train your voice at all, but ideally you want a strong design and it's up to the individual to decide how much they're going to prioritize their design over other things they need to spend resources on.

>>2756585
>want a strong design
give examples. let's see what you're talking about when you say "strong design"

>>2756568
Wat

>>2756568
Anon

>>2756190
I see I see, thanks for some info, in regards to spammers is there a way to avoid being spammed by random bots coming in, or is this just something Twitch has to deal with?

Also as for the second one I will keep that in mind, I guess. Shame because im also a fan of her content but i guess it makes sense that you cant have it both ways, thanks anon

>>2756615
Hello? Any of the Hololive girls post Gen 2? Damn, is Dunning-Kruger knocking on my door right now?

>>2756697
>Dunning-Kruger
ask me how i know you don't understand what that means

>>2756568
So what the fuck does your opinion matter then

Networking/Word-of-Mouth + Aesthetics + Audio + Content

You need all of this shit to do well as a vtuber.
Any /asp/ that believes one is more important than the other is NGMI.

To all the designfags in this thread. Most of the arguments about design are literally about taste. Who even determines good taste? Noone can be saved from their own bad or bland taste. There isn't anything you can do. If you want to help someone out stick with objective shit like hardware recommendations, keeping a schedule, and audition deadlines.

>what's a good design?
>just look at hololive
>has the most generic designs meant to appeal to the widest audience base possible by capitalizing on generic shit like nekomimis
???

>>2756683
There are a few bots that can deal with this, also slow-mode and follower only modes. Nightbot is commonly used for catching caps spam. I'm not too familiar with twitch unfortunately but I know big streamers like jerma use that.

>>2756946
Also, you can be a fan of hers all you want, the interaction I'm talking about is like you being seen as the boyfriend/simp which nobody likes.

>>2756924
I wouldn't say all of those are equally important, but they probably share importance at different stages. Networking is really important at first but starts being less important once the algorithm catches you. Your looks are important enough not to be seen as lazy/repulsive but after a while content will be more important, etc.

Audio is a good point. I'd rather watch a pngtuber with a good mic than yet another generic unconfigured yeti rigpig

>Bought a Audio-Technica AT2020
>Forgot I need XLR audio interface

Any recommendations for a good cheap interface?

>>2757050
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QR6Z1JB/ref=twister_B07TM7WQYF
don't forget the cables too

>>2757050
Scarlett solo, and don't forget to properly proof your room.

>>2757031
Aoi from PRISMproj auditioned with and still uses a Blue Yeti USB Mic

>>2756890
>Who even determines good taste?
I get your point, anon, but don't fall into the trap of thinking "all audio/aesthetic taste is subjective". There's a reason why streamers don't use a fake radio filter on their audio input, main characters of shows have 2-4 main complimentary colors that make them instantly recognizable, etc. There's decades of theory behind that shit. You can find out pretty quick if your taste sucks if you have some self-reflection skills and a couple honest friends, and if you're lacking in sense in any of the categories ranging from social skills, aesthetics, audio, etc, it's just a matter of needing more outside help (commissions, teachers, friends). I swear every time someone asks for advice on their voice or their design some autist comes out of the woodwork to yell about not focusing too much on design or voice when one of /asp/'s biggest draw is a brutally honest review of design/voice. Just because someone's asking about modeling or vocal training doesn't mean they're not also putting in work in the other categories.

>>2756890
There's a certain amount of design principles that companies often use and follow to create designs that appeal to the most amount of people possible. However, none of those rules are hard and fast at all, they can be broken effectively.

In short: It's a good idea to utilize some design principles like not overdoing it with accessories or whatever so that your design looks cluttered. However, it's not necessary to have a perfect corporate looking design if that's not feasible for you.

>>2757210
how do you know that

I’m starting singing lessons this week since I wanted to add karaoke to my repertoire while I wait for commissions to open for the artist I want to do my png. I haven’t sang for a long time so I’m kind of worried.

Ganbatte, fellow anons.

>>2756325
There are plenty more indies now that have a professional-level model and rig, but none of them has ever reached Artemis's level of popularity - despite the lack of personality and terrible voice.

Takes a couple more minutes to go searching for them on Twitter, but they exist and their viewership ain't that great for putting down $3000 - $5000 on a professional-level l2d and all the artist/rigging RTs that go along with it.

>>2757687
good shit, in person or online lessons? And how much are you paying for them?

>>2748091
Looks gross and difficult to animated properly.

>>2757876
Online for now, and I think 20USD a session (once a week) was what we discussed before, but we were going to wait until after the first lesson to finalize a price. However, he's a close friend of mine who teaches lessons at a university, so that price probably doesn't compare to what you'd find by searching on your own, unfortunately.

>>2758350
20 bucks a session is a friend price unfortunately... Still, happy that you got it anon. How's your pitch?

>>2757585
https://youtu.be/c9-5RobzRJQ?t=4318

>>2758507
Thank you! Pitch is one of the things we need to figure out, actually. I sang in choir throughout school, and our director insisted I was going to be a bass when my voice sorted out, so he kept me in the baritone range. When I went to university, the new choir director said he was an idiot and my voice is obviously higher-pitched, and put me as a high tenor. I was only in university choir for a semester though, so I never really had the chance to get used to the change. So I guess I'm a bit pitch-confused at the moment, hence why I never really felt confident singing after university. Hopefully the lessons will help with that.

>>2757050
UMC22. Anything above that won't notice a difference unless you have an audiophile audience

>>2757945
Having a friend bang out a concept sketch doesn't mean that's what the final model/style will look like.

>>2759313
>asked a friend to bang out a concept sketch
>it's been two months and all I have is a headshot

>>2737592
Drop your channel in here, I'll give you an honest try.

>>2752577
>does not clash colour-wise
Ok, I'll give you that but
>design is good
let's not get carried away.

>>2759446
what's wrong with the design? are you mixing up this particular stylization with what the final product will look like?

>>2752641
God colour schemes are a pain. Going for grey skin, and probably white hair/beard. That makes for a real monochrome baseline to work with. Unfortunately my favourite colours are fucking bright orange and purple, so they'll be a pain to try to work into it. Maybe as some sort of hat or other head decoration since otherwise there wont be much colour going on the upper half.

>>2737403
>>2753978
My mom and grandmom would just be happy that I have a job.

I don't know where my dad is and I don't give a fuck honestly.

>>2759402
I learned my "don't ask friends for free labor and expect anything" lesson the hard way

>>2759402
It could be worse. I asked a friend for a concept sketch once, and I have nothing after over a year (it wasn't for vtubing in particular). In the end, I feel like it's better to get a professional sometimes. I don't know your friend and can't say if this applies to them, but what I learned is that if someone has poor work ethic, you can't expect them to change and have good work ethic just because it's you and your project. I hope it works out for you and you get the art you need, anon.

>>2759542
I'd only ask a friend if it was something they were also interested in or excited about. Even then though, you can still work over the design with an impartial professional, and would probably be a good idea.

>see sketch in progress
oh my god i'm cute

>>2759961
Post it post it post it

>>2760031
i can't but, i can give you a hint, it's a guy in a hoodie

>>2760077

>>2760077
Yes you can my lad, post it

>>2760077
>A guy in a hoodie
N O T A G A I N

>>2760238
can't stop, won't stop

>>2760242
Pretty based

>>2759961
>>2760242
How much are you paying?

>>2760292
around $250

>>2759498
Good on you anon

>>2759961
I'm honestly on the edge of commissioning an artist and dipping in my toes myself. I'd need to make an investment into getting a good PC first... Dunno...

>>2760342
if it makes any difference for you, this is a character design skeb that i put together with a frankenstein'd moodboard and composite image with the intent to break out as a pngtuber first.

I'm doing voice training until my voice is perfectly female sounding and I'm going to have a female avatar. I'm sure if I get any kind of following whatsoever people will inevitably find out I was born male. Would that kill my channel? Do people even care?

Would it be stupid to just start vtubing now and voice train as I go? So start off sounding masculine and then androgynous and eventually feminine.

>>2761012
what's your content going to be?

>>2761031
I'm going to play action adventure games and rpg with an emphasis on exploration, lore and completionism. I want to replay baldur's gate, dark souls, bloodborne, etrian odyssey, monster hunter, fallout and some of my other favorites on stream and then play new games that my viewers want to see me play based on those playthroughs. I'll probably also have a dedicated day for mmos (wow and osrs). If no one watches which is what I sort of expect I'll just upload the playthroughs on youtube.

>>2761012
Can't you say upfront you're a trap or something?

>>2761098
don't play JRPGs unless you've got the personality to really carry it. even Kiara, who averages 8k on regular streams drops down to 2k when playing JRPGs. there's good enough viewers for the other games so you should be fine.

just put in your streaming reps so you're able to talk during the dead air. that's the number one killer of newer streamers. viewer hops in, checks you out for 30-40 seconds (2 minutes tops) if you're silent, they're gonna dip.

>>2761012
Starting male and turning female would be strange, although it'd probably court you KGB viewers (dunno how happy you'd be with that). Also it probably won't kill anything unless you try your hardest to hide it, almost everyone knows about Artemis but they still watch.

new apple products announced, keep your eyes out for cheap(er) used iphones if you're looking for one with Face ID

>>2761012
It's 'current year'. Most people won't care whether you were born a male or a female regardless of how you sound like. And the people that do would probably not be interested in the first place. Having your voice slowly change throughout the course of your streaming career would probably go fine as long as the initial voice isn't too far off from the one you're aiming for. If the change is super drastic, then some of your original base would definitely be peeved. Whether it's pissed enough to stop watching you though is going to depend entirely on the quality of your content and personality. That being said, it certainly has its benefits. Having people question whether you are a guy, girl, trans, etc is a good way to get people talk about you. Which is as they say, any publicity is good publicity

>>2761145
is Pokemon considered a debuff game as well or is that the exception? Because I'm planning to play almost exclusively Pokemon nuzlockes when I start streaming.

>>2761379
this
i daresay artemis made good use of this, what with the 'yes i admit i'm a gamer' video

>>2761402
pokemon nuzlockes are pretty standard. the pokemon community is pretty tightknit and welcoming of more streamers. bonus points if your character is designed like a pokemon trainer.

>>2761402
in general I feel like challenge runs get more notice than just regular playthroughs of a jrpg

>>2761562
>>2761421
>>2761402
keep in mind that nuzlockes will, by their nature, boil down to a zatsudans. treat them as such.

just casually hopping back in here to say that committing 100% to be a pngtuber for the first few months has been a breath of fresh air. not having to worry about tracking down artists and riggers or freaking out about the costs and shit has been nice.

>still no views on my application video
I'm not gonna make it.

>>2761866
calm down you weirdo, youtube's view algorithm is fucked, i told you already, unless you're a guy applying for hololive in which case yeah ngmi

>>2761928
>youtube's view algorithm is fucked,
...if you're a channel with thousands of views.

it's pretty accurate for single digits.
source: i have a single digits views channel and it accurately records all my self views

>>2761947
I have a video I uploaded for test purposes and it doesn't register like 3/4 of my views, it's barely at 17 but I've seen it a shitton of times.

FUCK.
pro tip, if you're commissioning a piece with an artist for a VTUBER MODEL, be sure to include a soundcloud or video or whatever THAT HAS A SAMPLE OF YOUR VOICE. artist drew me as a fucking twink and i'm here sounding like a mid-40s fucking lumberjack.

>>2763733
Didn't you do any sort of design concept or something? I dunno how they'd get it that different. What did you give them to go on?

WTF THAT 2DLIVE PROGRAM IS FUCKING EXPENSIVE
is there a pirated version out there?

>>2763999
free version is enough.

>>2764042
oh, okay, thanks, I'm guessing there's some features locked that I'll never use as a noob anyway.

>>2763999
No, but there's a way to crack it just look around a little I won't link it

>>2763999
Of course not. Piracy is illegal, so people wouldn't do stuff like that. People don't do crimes, that's just silly. Crimes are bad!!

do shock mounts do anything (in a meaningful sense for a starting streamer)? like, don't touch the mic or the stand, how hard is that?

if anyone wants to mess around with a scuffed model, this artist/rigger is giving away the files to the latest Genshin character they rigged.

https://twitter.com/ZerosArtMangaka/status/1383773212257906700

(don't direct click it, copy and paste url into another tab, or you'll spook them with clicks from 4chan)

Has anyone here heard back from Cover yet?

holy shit I got in... screencap this, I'm a male that got into the next generation and passed the interview

>new ip
>lol i got in
>interviews aren't even at round 2 yet
yawn, weak bait, anon

Just a quick sketch up I made for an vtuber idea I had. The theme is supposed to be a mech pilot, but rather than being the protector of earth, it's the alien invader.
Im debating changing the pilot suit to look more organic, similar to Pui Pui's armor from dbz.
Also I'm planning on having it be rigged from the angled view on the right, but I'm not sure whether I should have him sitting in a cockpit or just standing.
What do you guys think?

>>2768666
>rigged from the angled view on the right
don't, that's a dumb fuck idea. just keep it centered.

pikamee recently received an updated model where she's persistently facing to the left and it's ruined a lot of immersive aspects where her model can look at the game and look at the chat box. don't do it. it's not worth a gimmick and you're gonna be paying the same amount for a Live2D rigger to have a proper full range of motion anyway.

>>2768719
I get what you're saying, but that whole angled view schtick has been on my mind for the longest time, even before pikamee debuted with her new model I had a model completely ready to be rigged in the angled view.
Honestly I feel that Gyari had the right idea but shit execution, but maybe that's the case for angled views in general.
I thought the cockpit pose would look awesome angled, but I suppose I could also try to make it work in the centered view
>you're gonna be paying the same amount for a Live2D rigger to have a proper full range of motion anyway.
Oh no I plan on rigging it myself, free to play all the way

>check Skeb
>commissions from 100 bucks upwards
I should look at the new artists section, but with the system the site has how could I convey the idea I have in mind for a vtuber design. Well, more like a pngtuber but you get the idea. I may drop a vocaroo and ask you guys what kind of character you think it fits. A friend told me I sound like a young woman, but when I record myself I think I sound like a loli while I want to go for a more mature-but-tomboy kinda character.

>>2768849
>I get what you're saying, but
your funeral.
stopped reading here. looks like your mind is made up.

Where the hell did this comfy gremlin mode come from?!

>>2768666
>>2768719
You could have a slight angle like Subaru which works well in practice

>>2768666
thats a really kick ass idea anon and the design looks great if you ask me

>>2769001
After doing a couple of sketches and looking at other rigs I decided to go with centered view, but coming back to see your reply, I don't know why you had to be so pessimistic about it anon.
It's literally a WIP, anything if not everything is subject to change

>>2769315
Thanks! Although do you feel a masculine voice would fit the avatar? That's my main reasoning for considering the Pui Pui like armor, since I feel it would add a bit more masculinity but in return would also remove a bit of the colors in the suit

>>2769396
how masculine are we talking?

>>2769455
took a while, don't know why but my voice is pretty fucked up right now so couldn't record a fresh vocaroo.
This is from a recording I did a while back testing a mic but I think it makes for a pretty good gauge
https://voca.ro/1eK1a07drcas

So, is it hard to get a live2d because there is not enough supply of artists who do commissions, or is this because few artists give commercial use permission?

>>2769684
while i dont think voice and avatar matching is as big as people here make it out to be you might wanna go with the more masculine idea if you want a avatar that matches your voice

>>2769690
I'm an artist with no commissions that would give commercial permissions, and there's many more if you know where to look
I did close my commissions though to rebrand and prepare better marketing.

>>2769740
Yeah I thought it wouldn't match, hell the real reason that design even came into fruition was because I was making a masculine mech pilot human avatar to match my voice, but it was just so visually boring to me that I went for the villain approach and ended up with this.
Well I'll just stick with it, I like the way it looks and it's a fun design to draw desu

>>2768987
drop the vocaroo

>dont go with first vtuber idea because i dont think my model would be able to show emotion well
>actually get model for new idea
>model is basically stuck in a constant smile but CAN frown its just really hard

...I didnt think this one through did i anons?

>>2765298
Nope. No unique views on my video but I did turn in my application closer to the deadline. I'm sure they got a lot of applicants. At this point, I'm wondering if they're going to just wrap up the review period once they've seen enough competent people who submitted earlier and just disregard the rest. I wonder how many employees have to sit through all the applicants.

>>2771374
get a rigger to fix it?

>>2771635
one of the reasons i picked my aesthetic/gimick was to cut corners and not spend money on backgrounds and ect by making them myself spending money to fix the smile aint worth it

>>2771374
is your model rigged up already?
it should be easy to fix it.
make a new parameter that changes mouth form from smile to normal. then set a new expression in live2d viewer using that parameter, and set a hotkey trigger that changes between "smile mode" and "normal mouth"

I keep trying to make time for practice streams and rigging the model but life keeps happening fuuuuuck.

>>2768987
vocaroo us chump

How hard is it to learn to rig a model?

>>2774151
About as hard as it is to learn photoshop. The tools make sense and there’s plenty of YouTube info but good results require attention to details.

>>2767115
>male
is your character female tho?

>>2768666
First thing there's no point of the third eye if you have pincher bangs that obscure it.

Are you ever planning on using 3D? If you are then you might want to change the forearms to a more humanoid. Monster and animal parts are a nightmare for 3D avatars. Its fine youre planning to just use l2d or just stay in VRChat.

Everything else is really good. Other than that its pretty cute.

>>2769684
Your voice isn't masculine enough. You need to sound like the stereotypical heavy armor 8-foot-tall jrpg villain, so do some practice to sound more deep and menacing. The absurd contrast between a borderline shota alien and the ultra scary voice will be one hell of a gap moe and help you play up the villain angle.

>>2769684
>https://voca.ro/1eK1a07drcas
Your voice sounds perfect for fantasy race living mundane office worker life gimmick sort of like https://twitter.com/Randonneuring/status/1382474846169296896

>>2769684
Your voice isn't too masculine, but it also isn't light enough that it would fit the illusion of it coming out of your character, since it sounds too mature or weighty. Your 'laid back' demeanour also doesn't give off the impression of you being this alien invader character. Pic related pops up in my head design wise when listening to your voice.

Don't let me discourage you though; I didn't think Roberu or Astel's voices matched them, but I like them so much now it's gotten to the point I couldn't imagine them with anything else.

>>2781504
>Don't let me discourage you though; I didn't think Roberu or Astel's voices matched them, but I like them so much now it's gotten to the point I couldn't imagine them with anything else.
i think this will be the case for any vtuber who ends up lasting a long time and growing a fanbase.

Can I get a review on my channel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bpb4J7d5O8

I've been just playing games and doing random shenanigans

>>2781609
I laughed so much at not being able to hear the caller, I was so confused with who you were talking to.

Very cute voice! I don’t think you need to do the Gura laugh, but that’s just my personal preference.
I really love your design, but I think the huge curls look a little strange in your 3D model. The buns you have as an alternate are way nicer to look at and suit you more in my opinion.

You look like you’re growing really nicely though! Good job!!

>>2781609
>do you have any convictions you would die for?
>"nope"
lmao

>>2769684
>https://voca.ro/1eK1a07drcas
Your voice give me Tales of Xillia Alvin vibes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7Kq-pHWAfM

>>2781609
Took a quick look at three of your streams, here's some feedback
>Voice is pretty good
Most loli/chibi voices come off as quite grating but you pull it off well
>Not a lot going on
There seems to be a lot of dead air when it comes to your streams. You give off the impression that you don't really have anything to talk about or that you are too nervous. You should look into learning how to talk about random stuff just to fill dead air.
>Reliance on your viewers
Both good and bad. The times you seem to become active and interesting are when you have somebody to bounce off of in the chat or in a collab, but this is also a negative, as when you have nobody to bounce off of you start to clam up and that dead air crops up. Viewer interaction is good but they shouldn't be running the show. Your friends also dominate the stream a bit too much when you collab with them, at least when their crappy microphones aren't scuffing everything up.
>Designs and theming
Your avatar is cute enough, I probably wouldn't remember it after a year or so but it isn't an eyesore. Your magical girl theming, layouts and music leave more of an impression desu, which is good. Very well done. Work on getting some of the scuff fixed though, like the audio glitches and loading screen freezes.

Overall you are doing better than most. 4.5K subscribers is nothing to scoff at. In comparision, Koopa has 3K, and everyone only seems to have good things to say about her, so obviously you're doing good enough right now. Work on your confidence, fix the scuff, and do some touch ups on your model, and you could go places.

>>2781609
Non-native English speaker so take my feedback with a grain of salt - I like the voice, it's not grating, just like >>2782227 said. However, especially after a long period of being quiet, I kinda have issues understanding what you're saying.

>>2783293
>>2782227
I can see the issue now

>>2737194
Kanamori is sexy. SEXY!

Okay so, this may be kind of rude of me to ask but since someone else also asked about it could I have a review on my channel?
https://youtu.be/ak5E5-vFNRE
This may be a little old but still (I may delete it soonish)

>>2784931
seems fine. why the choice to put a "webcam" style box in the corner instead of just your avatar? could show a bit more of the game screen that way (unless it's a stylistic choice).

>want to make fanart and fancontent for vtubers I like
>don't want to leech off other vtubers and make them feel obligated to interact with me
Am I better off just making a second account completely unrelated to my vtuber account for making fan art and such? Or am I overthinking it?

>>2785970
i think you're overthinking it. just be an art vtuber, there's a bunch already.

Made a broken but functional avatar a while ago. Now I just need to think of some content.

>>2784931
are you a low voiced female or a feminine sounding male? No joke i cant tell

>>2786188
low effort bait, it doesn't matter

>>2786188
Female.
I’ve heard I have a genuinely difficult to place voice though, so it’s totally understandable
>>2785030
Yeah it’s stylistic
I use a few different themes for streaming though; sometimes I use a webcam-style avatar and sometimes I use my avatar just there

psa: stop replying to bait

>>2781609
Didn't watch the whole thing, your voice is very cute but your model is ugly as hell. I recommend getting a nip artist to redesign and draw it. If I might ask how did you achieve a voice like that? Is it natural or something you worked on?

>>2784931
there is no way this chuubi doesnt have a cock

^ is bait again

why cant I reply to trap chan??

>ENVtuber for @Cloud9

I’m going to park up in this thread so I can give as much advice as possible over the next couple of hours so bring your stupid questions and I’ll do my best to help!

>>2738046
KEK

>>2786815
Not a trap, am female, but I deleted my post

>>2786879
are you actually a chuuba or someone who just likes giving advice
>>2786856
as expected; with all the cosplay sneaky does, becoming a vtuber was the next logical step.

>>2786879
Is vtubing oversaturated yet? Figuring out live2d and video editing took longer than I thought, maybe I’m too late to the party at this point.

>>2787007
Actual chuuba and I’m mid sized (more than 50+ views). I’m not going to give away more than because I don’t to out myself but, I do want to help others reach success.

can someone tell me what chuuba means? I keep seeing that vernacular on this board

>>2787126
virtual youtuber
youtuber
tuber
chuuba
(say it with a japanese accent)

>>2787052
Not too late. Vtubing as a western market is only about a year old and we haven’t seen a large drop off in interest (viewership) so you’re safe.

You can always appeal to certain niches (communities) if you’re worried that being a generic “Vtuber” is too over saturated I.e. asmr + vtuber, challenger league of legends + vtuber, cooking + vtuber, etc etc

>>2787095
Did you pick a theme straight away, or did you figure it out as you went along?

>>2786879
How do you get your name out there as a Vtuber? I feel like I’m decent enough with regards to content but I can’t seem to break out with regards to advertising or networking, and whenever I do make friends and network with people I feel like I get overly clingy

>>2787203
I had a theme that didn’t come across very well when I started so did a horizontal transition which my theme around 6 months after I started.

I think having a theme is nice because it allows you to stick in people’s minds easier such as when talking about hololive members you know who I’m talking about when I say “the dog, the dragon or the cat”. It’s not essential to success though, so you can go without, it’s just a bonus.

>>2787307
Shill yourself in /wvt/, shill yourself in other people’s discords, do follow for follow on Twitter so your go live stuff appears on tons of people’s feeds, go to other people’s streams and make friends with them, then collab so you can make their audience aware that you exist.

These are probably your most basic ways of getting your name out there.

>>2786879
Also another thing, guess I’ll repost this to ask, do you think there’s anything I could improve personally about my content?
https://youtu.be/ak5E5-vFNRE

>>2787095
how long did it take for you to get to those numbers? what were the kind of numbers you started with?

How do I train my voice? Calli's voice is so smooth and soothing even when she's screaming. I'm jealous as hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJem1XbA4R0

>>2787431
I’ll give you a watch and come back to you with something so hold tight Anon!
>>2787443
I started hitting 50ish viewers in about 3-4 months of concentrated effort. I had been streaming for about 2 months before that making a ton of mistakes because I didn’t understand exactly how the streaming game worked. The reason I am doing this because I would like people to learn from my mistakes. I started with literally no one. For the 2 months before I actively put in a ton of effort I was streaming to less than 1 average viewer.

>>2787587
What should we stream, is that important or is networking more important

>>2787545
Voice training is a meme and just work with what you have naturally and it will sound better because you’re not straining yourself. That’s why Cali sounds smooth because she’s not putting on a moe moe cutesy voice and just working with her natural tone.

>>2768987
>>2771086
>>2774062
I made a mistake.
https://vocaroo.com/1em2G8Zc8ilP

>>2787619
If you’re small, stream games that have a popular fan following but don’t have a bunch of people streaming them. If you play flavour of the month stuff you’re just going to get drowned out in the crowd.

Or play games you are good at and/or can set you up to show the value of your stream

>>2787587
3-4 months is fast! I also started to just about no one and in my first two months I hit an average of about 4 viewers; my networking game has been weak but i did end up finding a couple of people that regularly watch me
I started shilling myself here a little bit as well and did see an increase in viewership; though I probably could be doing more
are you a /here/ chuuba or someone talked about at wvt a lot?

>>2787587
So what was the thing that you changed after the two months?

>>2787635
but what if your natural tone is harsh and ugly?

>>2787720
I’m not /here/ and I’m mentioned rarely just because I have a handful of people who are really supportive of me but, I wouldn’t say I’m in the clique of /here/chuubas at all.

Shilling is really really hard but, gets easier over time so keep at it. There is a significant difference between less than 1 viewer and 3-5 viewers so now you should have a much easier time talking and avoiding dead air.
>>2787780
To simplify it way too much the main things I changed was: 1) stop playing games no one wants to watch 2) start advertising/shilling myself a ton 3) start interacting with other vtubers

>>2787872
There is a market for every type of voice, even mori makes dogs at herself for not having the cute voice she desires. You can find a way to make your voice appealing you just need to find a niche that supports it

>>2787985
Digs not dogs sorry

>>2787946
Thanks, that was some valuable insight

>>2787431
Okay so, I don’t know how to say this without being offensive so sorry if this bothers you.

The entirely of your character and voice is very androgynous so I honestly cannot tell if you’re a girl or a boy. You also lack any strong themeing which isn’t great for branding. Your content itself is good. Maybe consider have your chat fade off stream over time because your chat is not very active. Also being on YouTube will isolate yourself from the rest of the vtuber community and will make growth hard. And finally it takes about an hour for you to hit your “peak” viewership so consider streaming for longer.

>>2787674
>https://vocaroo.com/1em2G8Zc8ilP
Iunno where you're hearing the loli in your voice, think with that voice you could make your tomboy character work fine.

>>2788209
the transphobic tourist is still here. don't take the bait.

>>2787946
What sort of games did you play? Were you looking at what was currently popular and doing those?

>>2788209
My voice being androgynous makes a lot of sense, I’ve heard that a lot
Unfortunately I haven’t heard that my character is androgynous; that is good to know though. I did post a potential redesign earlier in the thread for my current look (it’s just a mock-up in Code Vein but I think the clothes look more feminine) and I’ve edited it a bit to have what I feel is better theming in a paint program; I plan to commission it as a costume from my Live2D creator

>>2788260
I’m genuinely not trying to be offensive so sorry if that came across as transphobic. >>2788272
I would have to look back at past schedules to give you specifics but undertale, souls-likes, doom and resident evil 7, devil may cry all did very well for me. I think your mileage may vary depending on the type of content you create though.

>>2788495
transphobic isnt a real thing, stop replying you bait

>>2788383
If you can afford it and you’re looking at a slight redesign maybe hire a character designer? Having to work with someone else will help solidify what you want as well as you not having to think/learn about colour theory and what shapes work for you. You can find decent ones for $100~ if you’re willing to sink some money into this.

>>2787545
>Calli
It's Mori in these parts. Just use your actual voice nigga. It'll help you in the long run. Suisei sounds so much better with a lower pitch anyway.

>>2788616
Good idea; thank you for the advice Anon
I’m just worried that I might have to pay for a full new Live2D model; I know my model is already rigged with regards to the important parts but still

>>2737403
I'd be like papa macchia

>>2788219
If I don't really sound like a loli then maybe it's just me. Thanks for the feedback, now I know I can go with my idea for png design.

>>2787674
Kek, you think you sound like a loli? Don't flatter yourself. You sound like an average 30-year old ESL woman.

I'm planning on learning how to rig with Live2D during the weekend. Would a local pngtuber be interested in me practicing with their design? No guarantees on the quality or how much time it's gonna take, but you would receive whatever comes out.

>>2789842
>pngtuber
don't.
just use a pre-made live2d ready model. or your going to waste a ton of time filling in voids from cutting the png into separate layers.

If I post my vocaroo here, will you guys tell me what kind of character would be suitable? also, what sample template do I read

>>2790982
just read the ingredients to the taco bell crunchwrap supreme as if a viewer in your chat asked you to read it. don't do a rhyme, don't do a tongue twister, don't do a voice (unless you're actually doing a voice as vtuber)

>no time because of job
>not geared at all
>nervous about preparing and practice streams on personal account
Should I even consider going in at this point?

>>2787392
not sure if you're still here but I saw you mentioned follow for follow on twitter and was wondering how your following/follower ratio is? I've seen some chuubas that get big and barely follow anyone; if someone doesn't follow you back do you just unfollow them? I've seen people that I know follow a bunch of people back and then mass unfollow when they got to a size they thought was big enough

>>2791160
all the viewers are becoming chuubas... someone's gotta add to the viewer pool
on a more serious note, if you haven't even started and you feel like you have no time, imagine what it will lbeike when you start. Can you plan a schedule around your work in a way you can keep it consistent? Being able to actually stream is kiiiiind of important
Just make another throwaway account if you're worried about practice streams

>>2791160
Yes. The first step is what separates you from a nobody to a somebody.

>>2791160
a couple of /wvt/s work full time and only stream for like 2 hours at night afterwards

>>2791160
If you can manage 2 hours 3 times a week, you’re good. Do weekends.

>>2791160
if you want to stop being nervous anon then you need to go full force non stop

>>2791209
I’m about 1:2 mostly because I stopped follow for following after I hit 1k on Twitter because I felt like that was a good enough size to be “respectable”. I personally didn’t unfollow anyone I followed (who didn’t follow me back) until 3 monthsish later because I decided if I wasn’t interacting with them and they didn’t want to follow back then it’s probably not worth it to anyone for me to remain followed.

>>2789678
I dunno it's the impression I get from listening to myself. I'v always thought I had a sort of squeaky voice, but seems to be true you can't judge your own voice unless you record it. Seems mine has changed as time went on and never really noticed.

>>2790982
Yes anon thats what we do best

>>2791550
yeah that's what i've been doing with a lot of the people that i followed when i first started though there's a lot of low follower people that i would feel bad unfollowing

>>2776654
https://voca.ro/1izmrqI3Lqva
Spent a good three hours practicing this, but this is as deep and as menacing as I can get for the moment, will continue to experiment with it.
Am I on the right track in regards to a villainous gap moe fulfilling voice?

>>2787674
>https://vocaroo.com/1em2G8Zc8ilP
not loli
30s or more mature

>>2794012
>actually sound older
That's... actually better, this only confirms I can go with the design I had in mind.

>>2792919
You had me until you were exhaling with each word. The chest voice absolutely works though.

>>2794283
>>2794283
>>2794283
new