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A thread for the Vampire survivors inspired Holo fan game

Link to download the game:
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure

HoloCure Twitter:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame

Leader boards are currently down because too many people are playing the game. Will be fixed in a later update. You can still play and brag about your score here though so we don't clutter up other threads

Assortment of information(e.g. unlocks etc.)
https://rentry.org/vehan

Previous thread:
>>27591914

>Upcoming streams
Risu: https://youtu.be/StrxEiYlkBE

>Recent streams:
Matsuri https://youtu.be/Om20tTd8c_g
Suisei https://youtu.be/wosSRw0QcHs

>> No.27728222

Literally why? This could have waited until Risu went live, there's nothing to even talk about

>> No.27728353

did kay yu breathe a single word of when the next update might be coming out?

>> No.27728804

I've reached peak Ina, what do I do now?

>> No.27728850

>>27728804
Unlock the 1hp run

>> No.27728893

>>27728222
because our lady and saviour Risu is streaming and she demands a thread on /vt/

>> No.27728912

>>27728353
mid-late august

>> No.27728954

https://youtu.be/StrxEiYlkBE
https://youtu.be/StrxEiYlkBE
https://youtu.be/StrxEiYlkBE

>> No.27729514

>>27728912
More specifically
>mid-late August
>will include Kiara rebalance more substantial than the Mori one.
>will include Gamers
>The reason it's taking so long is he wants the first major content patch to feel "substantial" so while not confirmed it's likely we'll get more than just Gamers
>There's already a stage screenshot of what's likely stage 2, which will probably have it's own music separate from stage 1.
>We can probably expect items in more or less every update until there's non-character references to every girl.
>It's possible the next update will also include Gen 0 as the spots for them already exist on the character select.

>> No.27729746

>>27729514
And while less immediately pressing he also shared some of his thoughts on balance and design on a rather substantial reddit post

Highlights include
>He thinks Kronii is the best designed character right now, aside from her special that he wants to make more unique
>He cares more about each character feeling unique and fun to play than being perfectly balanced against each other, when leaderboards return they will be character specific.
>Ina's bugs are absolutely getting fixed next update and he suspects she might even need a buff afterwards.
>He responded to allegations of being a Hooman (and thus the reason Mumei is so good which were schizo allegations anyway but here we are) with confirming he actually doesn't watch EN that much and lamented the fact that his oshis, Pekora and Polka, are quite far down the content pipeline he has planned.
>He made this game with a specific target demographic in mind, that being the average holosimp, and he realizes that even though to him after his hours of testing the game is piss easy, it's still on the harder side for the people he made it for.
>He doesn't want multi-hour Yagoo runs to be a thing. He wants all characters to be able to hit Yagoo consistently in the hands of a skilled player and he wants them to be able to survive it for some time with a lucky build, but he sees the ability to literally go infinite as a problem and will adjust the Yagoo scaling accordingly.

>> No.27731088

How do I stop the Suspect in my head? Asking for a friend.

>> No.27731235

>>27731088
you don't

>> No.27732002

>>27731088
Listen to it with lyrics obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lFmjbdOTyc

>> No.27732353

>>27729514
>Gen 0
yes please

>> No.27733093

New player here, how do I farm coins? Like some fucked up build that still lets me end the game by dying

>> No.27733245

>>27733093
>>27592513

>> No.27735608

bump

>> No.27735850
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>Updated 9 days ago

>> No.27735906

>>27735608
Let it die, man. It's okay. We can just put it back up when the update comes out.

>> No.27735977

>>27735906
I don't want to let go man

>> No.27740245

>>27735977
anon you have to let go the accident was ten years ago

you have to let go

it's for your own good

>> No.27740625

graduated game

>> No.27742597

>>27740625
It's just suspended for a minor breach of contract.

>> No.27742847

>>27742597
holocure contract terminated for breaching ndas

>> No.27743299

>>27735850
Ayame soon

>> No.27745438
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27745438

WTF guys, you told me 500 HP for infinity grind, but I died with 535.

>> No.27746473

>>27745438
Not enough haste.

>> No.27746519

>>27745438
You wasted 14 more levels on collabs than you needed to.

>> No.27747268

I can't believe this thread is still alive

>> No.27747343

>>27747268
better here than dispersed in every other holo thread because its "on topic"

Containment threads are necessary.

>> No.27747749

>>27746473
I had 95 iirc. I though 100 was the magic number.

>>27746519
Most of that came from anvils, not levels. I did get my first glasses drop very late though (mid 70s).

>> No.27749199

>>27747749
Seems like a positioning error then.

>> No.27749584

>>27728893
based

>> No.27749997

>>27747268
Yeah, what a shame we're wasting a thread for an unique, active in development game when we could have had another Kanata hate thread instead

>> No.27751195
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Looks like 600 is enough.

>> No.27751587

>>27751195
took me over an hour to die with 375 health and 56% haste

>> No.27752152

>>27751587
Same anon, at 50 minutes now. I take a chunk of damage every now and then, but nothing below about 75%. Pretty sure I'll die if I start moving around too much though.

>> No.27753291
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Cool I did it. Now I just need to die.

>> No.27754595
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20MTD absolutely botched their endless mode and i have nowhere else to bitch and be disappointed about it so im just gonna make this post here

>> No.27755352

How do I into Mumei... or Bae...

>> No.27760022

>>27755352
same as most, for items go for stables like horns, plushie, and meal

for items probably some aoe stuff like books or axes to compensate for her weapon

>> No.27761204

Late shill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_uZ3Rc-yIM

>> No.27761226

>>27755352
for stage mode its always Meal, Horns, Glasses, SuperChatto. The other 2 should be items that max out at level 3, preferably including Knightly milk since its just free +pick-up range
For Mumei specifically you can just focus on her weapon+skills, and then start building collabs and leveling items

>> No.27761543

>>27727753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzD0zdN5Uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzD0zdN5Uw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzD0zdN5Uw

>> No.27761588

>>27761543
fuck off

>> No.27761677

>>27761543
The fuck. I thought it's shion that'll be streaming this game. What's with the misleading thumbnail pippers?

>> No.27761685

>>27761588
Watch her

>> No.27766958

I need update, my dopamine is running out...

>> No.27771844
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27771844

So 1hp runs are easier than I thought. At least with mum, since she shits damage. Pretty sure I could easily do it with Sana as well, since her knockback keeps niggas away until yagoo.

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>>27771844
Got to yagoo, but couldn't screengrab stats again before dying.

>> No.27773020

Plushie gives you 0.3 sec invulnerability after taken damage.
After taken damage, lower left of screen will show a Plushie icon. The icon lasts FAR LONGER than 0.3 sec.
What is the icon’s purpose? Is it bugged?

>> No.27773079

>>27773020
The damage and speed debuff lasts longer than the invulnerability

>> No.27773125

>>27773020
That's the debuff.

>> No.27773137

>>27773079
>>27773125

Thanks man

>> No.27773192

>>27773079
>>27773125
Ame’s Special stated to have 15 sec duration, but in reality it has only 10 sec.

Is it a bug or typo in description?

>> No.27773908

>>27773192
Probably an old version lasted 15 seconds but it was nerfed and not updated.

>> No.27773996

>>27761543
NO PIPPANTS
NO PIPPANTIES

>> No.27774153

Any way to get past 30:30 with fauna?
I have lvl 8 fauna
My current Build:

> glasses
> doll
> meal
> horns
> headphones
> credit card

> flat board
> elite cooking
> idol concert
> bl fujoshi
> beam

I reset runs if I don't get glasses by min 3.

>> No.27774349

>>27774153
Apart from infinite ina, yagoo is just pure luck. Not sure what specific part of the RNG is the important part (if it's solely headphones and healing RNG, or if yagoo also has a wide damage RNG), but non-ina builds tend to all die at a random point in the first minute of yagoo (if built right). If not built right they die instantly.

>> No.27774354

Can Headphone’s knockback proc DURING invincible duration of Plushie?

>> No.27774469

>>27774349
:( sad
Ive been trying mumei and fauna lately, maxing weapons and stuff. I got all collabs to +5 once, still got yagoo'd.

>> No.27774713

>>27774469
I'm hoping the dev allows for most crazy player scaling in lategame. Infinite ina is indeed just an exploit and should be patched, but it should be replaced with better endgame scaling to make any character be able to get to 1hr+ if built right. Healing should scale beyond where it currently is, and we need more damage buff items (most damage buff items also fuck hp, which means they're only useful on 1hp runs) which leaves low-damage characters in the dust with no way to keep scaling.

Making the yagOOOOs a touch slower, and maybe spawn from only the sides of the screen, might also make investing in movement speed worth it for kiting, since as-is it's impossible to outrun the yagoos and you get swarmed regardless.

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>just downloaded the game and gave it a try
>clear story in 3 tries
>try endless mode and discover PETTAN COLLAB
Ok. I was wondering why you'd want to replay a game that is basically just about numbers but I get it.
Though due to how the game is designed with its inevitable powercreep I don't see how you'd want to go with any other strategy than stacking damage and health regen.

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My latest Mumei run.
Anon said that 400 HP and 70 Haste were enough to survive Yagoo because 90 Haste will break the game or something.
My stats at 30:00 were 600 HP and 70 Haste
My stats at 32:50 were 760 HP and 95 Haste
Dead 4 seconds later at 32:54.
I didn't know if this was RNG fucking me or what because I saw that her HP was reduced to 1/3 or 1/4 many times so I kept upgrading her HP and Haste till she's dead.
Barely 3 minutes surviving Yagoo.

>> No.27776473

>>27775864
Surviving Yagoo with Mumei is pretty luck dependent if you aren't abusing 100% haste. I survived for quite a while with 95 haste but even with 1300 hp, I was still having close calls.
100 haste just causes Friend to spam weapons without cooldown, so if you really want to go infinite with Mumei, that's the easiest way.

>> No.27776934

>>27776473
My RNG builds:
Mumei: almost 3 minutes.
Irys: almost 2 minutes.
Kronii: only a few seconds because I couldn't see her bubbles because of Elite Cooking and Yagoo obscuring the screen.

>> No.27777199
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27777199

What am I missing and how do I get it?

>> No.27777779

What's better for minute 25+, upgraded Sake or the Piki Piki Piman?

>> No.27778118
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>>27776473
Holy shit, Haste affects Friend?

>> No.27778157

>>27777199
Link in OP's post >>27727753

>> No.27778221

>>27777779
Take Piki Piki Piman if you get hit a lot.
Otherwise, take Sake.
Or both, so you always get that CRT bonus (either from Sake or PPP)

>> No.27778493

Does the items that affect pick up radius affect Bubba and Friend too?

>> No.27778536

>>27778118
Haste affects the cooldowns for all skills.

>> No.27779670

Kaela is streaming btw
https://youtu.be/mY-f4KK2AYU

>> No.27780026

>>27774153
I would guess your HP and Haste are too low on account of all those collabs. Credit Card is pretty useless too, I would swap it for Milk.

>>27774858
The optimal gold farming strategy is more offensive/growth oriented than the infinity survival one. You can consistently crank out 7-8k in stage as long as Glasses and Supachat don't fuck you by never dropping.

>>27776473
Haste is getting nerfed to 1% per level in the next patch isn't it?

>> No.27780158

>>27780026
>Haste is getting nerfed to 1% per level in the next patch isn't it?
I haven't seen anything saying haste in general is changing. Just Friend getting fixed. Right now +100% haste is the same as "twice as often" for everything except friend, where it's erroneously treated as "-100% cooldown." I can see how the mistake was made.

>> No.27780232

>>27761543
kino intro

>> No.27780286

>>27779670
should've grabbed the plushie

>> No.27780361

>>27780158
Haste is also one of the two stats that enables Inafinity tanking and the one stat that allows infinite time bubbles on Kroni. It just seems like access to unlimited 5% Haste buffs will always be the thing enabling some new degenerate exploit or infinity build.

BTW, what exactly happens when Friend hits 100%? Is it just shot after shot after shot or does he crash the game? Can you still eventually die or are you involuntarily immortal?

>> No.27780380

>>27780286
so many retard on the chat

>> No.27780585

>>27780286
Plushie is pretty shit in stage. What did she take over it?

>> No.27780588

>>27780361
>Haste is also one of the two stats that enables Inafinity tanking and the one stat that allows infinite time bubbles on Kroni.
That's more due to a bug with Ina and how takos and the doll interact. With Kronii it doesn't seem like any individual thing is working incorrectly, though I'm unsure how the dev wants to square making infinite runs impossible with Kronii's bubble. It could just be that he'll increase Yagoo scaling so that Kronii probably can't survive until her bubbles overlap enough.

>BTW, what exactly happens when Friend hits 100%?
It's like having -100% cooldown.

>> No.27780607

>>27780585
Full meal, I think

>> No.27780650

the fact that 5% haste is -5% cooldown instead of 1.05 times faster is hilarious
just make it like attack speed in any game, where 100% is twice as fast

>> No.27780726

>>27780650
It already is, for everything except friend. Otherwise Kronii would be completely overpowered.

>> No.27780883

>>27780380
This is the most retarded chat that I've seen. They just talked her into dropping Pillow.

>> No.27781072

>>27727753
Seeing this streamed by non-hololive (mostly indies and Twitchtubers) somehow triggers me. I know it's free, but lost the meaning if someone not from that corpo plays it. I'm still not playing it until the JPs are unlocked first.

>> No.27781447

>>27780883
Just don't get hit bro. But yah, that's stupid.

>> No.27782063 [DELETED] 

>>27780361
>BTW, what exactly happens when Friend hits 100%?

https://litter.catbox.moe/gtxvf3.mp4a4

>> No.27782122

>>27781072
Why? If anything you should be glad non-holo vtubers are playing it, it builds the image of Hololive and it could maybe get new people into researching what Hololive is.

>> No.27782125

>>27780361
>BTW, what exactly happens when Friend hits 100%?
https://litter.catbox.moe/gtxvf3.mp4

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27782138

Freaked out and grabbed another collab at 27:00 when I probably could've held out. I didn't want milk either but I blew all 3 rerolls trying to get rid of noting but Ubersheep, Body Pillow, Sake and it for my last item

With The meal, is Perfection good enough that I can take Asacoco for the damage boost or should I just take Piki Piki for Kroni?

>> No.27783415
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what am i missing?

>> No.27783460

>>27783415
play 10 minutes as mori

>> No.27783516

10 days without update?

>> No.27783578

>>27783415
>>27783460
>this is consistenly the last item anons ask how to unlock
>no one here wants to play mori
kek.

>> No.27783867

https://youtu.be/YYCXIGp2FJ4
Oh hey Botan is playing Vampire survivors today

>> No.27784927

He needs to add achievements so there's something to do besides farm coins

>> No.27785544

>>27727753
Don't know if this has been answered, will FBK get 2 character slots?

>> No.27785804

>>27784927
Your monkey brain is that easy to satisfy?

>> No.27786158

>>27782138
Milk is an excellent pickup for going infinite as Kronii, since it makes your immunity bubbles bigger. You should remember that she is going to be relying on that more than anything else to survive yagoos. For that reason, I would recommend against getting more than one collab before the 30 minute mark, so you can increase your odds for haste and health pickups.

>> No.27786789

>>27785804
He says in a thread about a peak skinnerbox game

>> No.27787583
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Fuck you rng

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>>27727753
Never played endless mode before

>> No.27789729

If I get crit to +100%, does that mean all my hits are crits or it's just double the chance to crit?

>> No.27790103

>>27779670
JGH, did she do it?

>> No.27790477

>>27790103
She made it with Irys right at the end.

>> No.27790765

>>27729746
Sorry for being a newb but what is ina's bug? Also why can she survive endless?

>> No.27791396

>>27790765
It's kinda a bunch of stuff working together to make her invincible, but the biggest player is harmless takos made through The Ancient Ones triggers the Plushie's invincibility to make her invincible for a bit. Add in Flattening Board having a ~30% bonus damage when used by Ina and stuff like Nurse's Horns for constant healing along with constantly grabbing HP Up, it becomes hard for the Yagoo's to out DPS her heals/invincibility.

>> No.27791809

>>27782122
I feel it more like leeching for views

>> No.27791816

>>27790477
nice, she did it with different character from the one that Botan and Mumei used

>> No.27792007

>>27791396
So HP up is the key in staying immortal in endless huh

>> No.27792119

After playing Holocure so much, Vampire Survival looks ugly now for some reason...

>> No.27792278

>>27792007
Pretty much, but ironically, if you grab too many HP Up, you quite literally can't die to collect your coins and eventually your game will just crash, losing all the coins.

>> No.27792305

>>27792119
it always looked ugly

>> No.27792696

>>27790765
There are several bugs.

Currently The Ancient One is the most bugged skill in the game, it triggers kills when the Tako's are absorbed, which makes it the only instant KO in the game that can proc horns, it gives XP twice for each enemy killed by it, and contact witht he harmless Tako's triggers "on damage" effects.

>> No.27792930

>>27792696
So you have to collect Takos before facing Yagoos?

>> No.27793316

>>27792930
No the double xp is gravy. If you have about 700 hp and 100% haste you're converting Yagoo's to Tako's fast enough that you never die even if you stand still.

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>>27792696
>kill enemy(their body) and they drop experience
>absorb tako(their soul) and gain experience
I still maintain that it's thematic. The body and soul are separate, and my oshi claims and deserves both. Though I'm not saying it shouldn't be balanced, I merely appreciate the accuracy of it.

>> No.27793546

>>27793333
>Though I'm not saying it shouldn't be balanced,
Trying to balance the game is stupid. It's not a pvp and the high scores will just be taken over by hackers, so who cares.

I'd rather them all be unique so it gives me more options on different ways to play, rather than just tunnel to Ina because I want coins.

>> No.27793561

>>27793333
This is why I'm glad the dev doesn't actually watch EN, can't wait for Pekora and Polka to be by far the most broken characters in the game.

>> No.27793699

>>27793546
I agree with your sentiment, but Ina's bugs don't just make her too strong, they also make her inconsistent with the rules established for other characters.

If the dev wants to add the double xp to the skill description and make all instant KO effects proc on kill triggers that's fine with me too.

He has also, however, explicitly expressed a desire for multiple hour endless runs to be impossible which means, by that metric she absolutely needs some adjustment.

>> No.27793702

>>27793316
>700 hp and 100% haste
you dont need nearly that much

>> No.27793790

>>27793702
That's the point at which it's impossible for you to die before the game crashes.

>> No.27793933

>>27793699
>He has also, however, explicitly expressed a desire for multiple hour endless runs to be impossible
I feel like that's in part to how weak the scaling of Yagoos is. Bump up their stat scaling and/or massively lower the xp they give to prevent players being able to level much after hitting 30 or 60 minutes.

>> No.27794052

>>27793933
Yeah, currently they're scaling at +20% to health, damage, and speed per minute additively.

If it was multiplicatively instead then instead of being +200% at 40 minutes, they'd be +619%, that seems like a big enough change to outscale anything short of total invincibility.

>> No.27796092

>>27794052
isnt it 2%, not 20

>> No.27800084

>>27793699
>>27793933

How far would players get without plushie?

>> No.27801786

>>27782138
How high did you get your haste?

>> No.27802004

>>27792278
That happened to me, so I used a save editor to add them.

>>27792305
This.

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>Updated 10 days ago

>> No.27802198

>>27747268
Holo board

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>>27774153

>> No.27802415

>>27747268
hololive board

>> No.27802593

>>27802266
What stats did you focus on for this?

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>>27802593
HP and Speed

>> No.27802774

>>27729746
>He doesn't want multi-hour Yagoo runs to be a thing. He wants all characters to be able to hit Yagoo consistently in the hands of a skilled player and he wants them to be able to survive it for some time with a lucky build, but he sees the ability to literally go infinite as a problem and will adjust the Yagoo scaling accordingly.

Unlimited yagoo works are meme in the first place, so trying to base game design choices around it, positive or negative, is stupid. It is just a placeholder for what is effectively an early alpha demo. More stage mode content (and thus likewise more endless mode content) is necessary.

>> No.27803321

>>27792278


It should be possible to kill yourself by taking move speed and consumables on level up, until you can outrun your takos and the yag000s scale up.

>> No.27803874

>>27802762
>Speed
Why?
How did you survive that long with that kind of stats?

>> No.27804347

>>27803874
Through trial & error.
I have tried ATK, CRIT, didn't work at all, since her output power is just too low.
The Haste + Idol costume build has potential. I did few 34-35 minutes runs with it but then the yagoos always one-shot me after that.

>> No.27804536

>>27804347
Were you running away from Yagoo?

>> No.27804612

>>27804536
Always running to find saplings.

>> No.27804788

>>27804612
How long can you survive Yagoo using that build?

>> No.27804810

>>27800084
plushie is mandatory to get more than a few seconds past 30

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>>27804788
My last moment

>> No.27806775

>>27801786
>>27786158
Actually got 110% haste and 400 HP going in, but good to know about milk

>> No.27807726

>>27789729
All hits are crits at 100%

>> No.27808609

>>27802004
My computer has a shitfit if I try downloading a save editor and I'm too stupid to fix my computer if I tank it.

>> No.27808733

Is Hardcore mode worth doing? I made it 25 minutes with Kronii and only got ~4k coins, which I can easily hit just doing story mode.

>> No.27808976

>>27808609
The one I used was a webpage where you uploaded the save file and downloaded a new one. It should be one of the first few results.

>> No.27809108

>>27808733
Hardcore only increases your score, not coin gain

>> No.27809818
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27809818

This game will have Achievements soon. I'm guessing "Beat Stage mode on Hardcore" and "Get to 30 minutes in Endless on Hardcore" will be unlockable achievements. Until then, I see absolutely no reason to play on Hardcore since it's just a self-imposed challenge at the moment.

>> No.27809901

Chicken's Feather will be added in the update. It grants 1 revive.
https://holocure.fandom.com/wiki/Chicken%27s_Feather

>> No.27809941

>>27809108
Well now I feel extra retarded.

>> No.27809984

>>27809901
This should be a Kiara skill instead of an item to make her stand out more as an option.

>> No.27810316

>Finally get Inalock working
>just under 500hp
>already at 10K gold
>game reports a bug and closes
I'm so fucking pissed off

>> No.27810555

>>27810316
You'd have to Cheat Engine to kill yourself (or stack an insnae amount of speed) anyways, so you might as well just save edit the gold back

>> No.27810605

>>27810555
I was told suicide was still possible under 500 max hp

>> No.27811038

>>27809901
I don't see how this will be useful? you'd probably die twice easily if you're already dying once no?

>> No.27811285

>>27809901
>>27811038
If I were kay, I'd also make it detonate on activation so that you get out of the immediate situation you were in

>> No.27811287

>>27811038
For endless sure, but it'll have a use as a safety net for people who struggle to even do stage

>> No.27811295

>>27811038
There's been times where I've backed myself into a corner on accident and died, but I probably could have finished the run if I had a revive. I still probably would never take that item, though, it's not worth the opportunity cost.

>> No.27811538

>>27811038
>>27811287
I can see it being useful in endless if it kills itself on use, it's basically a whole item slot for pickup which will allow stat upgrades faster

>> No.27812084

>>27808976
For some reason my save data is a win file and I can't edit it. What the fuck did I do

>> No.27812227

>>27812084
You know that your save file isn't inside the folder with the game files right?

You're in your user/AppData/Local/HoloCure/ folder?

>> No.27812272
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27812272

i did it

>> No.27812328

>>27811038
Could be fodder for a collab if they introduce item/item or item/weapon combinations.
Although if it's only 1 level then maybe it would the final piece to a weapon/weapon/item collab, like for the OG Holotori trio or something.

>> No.27812356

>>27812272
Congrats! I'm working on my Kroni runs too, you made fire huh?

>> No.27812487

>>27812356
Thank you. Fire just happened on its own

>> No.27813098

>>27812328
But Holotori had 4 members now?

>> No.27813563

>>27813098
6 members
Subaru
Kiara
Reine
Mumei
Lui
Kaela

>> No.27813669
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>>27812272
I dunno why everyone bothers making so many collabs.

>> No.27814147
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27814147

What weapons for rrat

>> No.27815422
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27815422

Fauna time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6X43Mv1Q3Q

>> No.27816308

>>27814147
Just get any collab and you're gold.

>> No.27818070

>>27811038
The game is targeted at a lower skill floor. He's already said it's about at the higher end of the difficulty level for his target audience. Players like Noel and Ame got filtered by the shieldbeats and haven't even seen Fubuzilla. While I do hope for a curse type mechanic to make stage mode harder without just setting yourself to 1hp, I think the dev is right to just focus on stage mode for balancing.

A single revive can correct for a lot of mistakes. It's like panic button specials: if you're truly getting overwhelmed without making mistakes they are only going to let you live another 10-20 seconds. But if you're using it because you made a mistake, like walking away from a boss into a wall, or because of a hard to dodge pattern, or something you just didn't see coming, it can be enough for a casual player.

>> No.27818695

Fauna really needs some sort of cc to make her less shit. She just gets overrun way too easily.

>> No.27819263

>>27818695
She's a defensive oriented character in a game that rewards offense, so she's never going to be very good. If you're reacting to her stream then she's screwing herself by not buying menu upgrades or rushing into Elite Cooking.

>> No.27819485

>>27819263
That's an issue though. Her sustain is only ok but she needs some way to keep enemies away for it to actually do its job, she has no way of actually doing that. Compare her to Ina, who has great sustain but also has great cc, or Gura who has great sustain, cc, and damage output at the same time. Fauna just feels really half baked compared to those two.

>> No.27819630

>>27818695
Her weapon would be a lot better if it didn't shoot out at max level and instead did a second loop around her or something like that.

>> No.27819892

>>27818695
Leaves should honestly just work like BL works, maybe have a different spin or pay off, but I get the feeling he didn't want them to operate similarly makes me wonder how unique the other girl's weapons will be.

>> No.27820470

>>27818695
>Sapling gathering stays the same
>Guardian Tree becomes Return to Nature: When healing (except via Return to Nature), places roots on random nearby target, slowing target by 10/20/30% and leeching 1/2/3% HP to Fauna every second.
>Whisperer revamp: Heal 1 HP every 2 seconds. If healed while at max HP, gain 1 "Whisper" (max 1/3/5). On taking the next hit, consume all Whispers to knock nearby opponents back and deal 70% * (Whisper amount) damage.
I fixed Fauna's passives.

>> No.27820822

>>27818695
For a defensive/healing character, her defense is particularly fragile. For casuals you'd expect body pillow to be a good item, but whisper stacks get consumed before the pillow. Dev needs to fix whisper (and most other defensive character passives) so that their ordering makes sense, either first on every hit or last on damage. Whisper also takes a really long time to build back up, the longest in the game, so if you're a casual who is getting hit at lot they'll never build back up. Compare Kiara's shield, which is pretty bad, but which is fully back in 10 seconds instead. Fauna also loses her heal if she gets hit, so for a bad player they're being punished twice for losing a stack (three times, really, since they lose the attack on heal too), and good players weren't really depending on it to begin with. It's kind of a confused skill.

>> No.27821307
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27821307

>>27818695
This guy has the right idea >>27820470
Although I'd take it a step further and make the slow a full blown root that stops the enemy in place.
Also call me crazy but max rank Saplings should also give iframes to make picking them up lategame less of a hassle. Maybe the same amount as a base Plushie (.3 seconds)

>> No.27821895

>>27821307
>Also call me crazy but max rank Saplings should also give iframes to make picking them up lategame less of a hassle. Maybe the same amount as a base Plushie (.3 seconds)
Fauna becomes the new Ina.

>> No.27822350

>>27821895
Fine, at least Fauna would still have to run around to be invincible instead of just standing still.
Or maybe just .1-.2 seconds instead if you really care about "balance" in a single player game.

>> No.27828650

bump

>> No.27829817

>>27828650
why. just let this thread die already.
Now we're stuck this old thread until it reaches the last page again.
We could've had a newer, more updated thread featuring the new holocure streams like Fauna.

>> No.27833486

>>27829817
Damn, that's a good idea!

>> No.27834535

Can you aim with mouse?

>> No.27834664

>>27834535
not yet

>> No.27840610

>>27829817
anon this will be the last thread, there wont be a next one until sometime in august

>> No.27842228

Reine is starting
https://youtu.be/lZl13F3xYas

>> No.27842257

August is too long, hype will be long gone by then

>> No.27843723

>>27842257
I don't know, it might rekindlie a new wave of interest if the holos play it

>> No.27843787

>>27810555
Anon help me how do i suicide with cheat engine?

>> No.27844592

>>27842257

>gets gamers updated
>gamers all play the game
>some of Jps biggest hitters
>gura plays because okayu got an update
>all of EN plays it again to see if their selves got buffed


Nah, everytime the game gets new characters it will get a resurgence

>> No.27845213

>>27842257
who cares as long as I get to play it

>> No.27845453

>>27843787
>Download CE
>Pause game
>Type in CURRENT HP in the Value field and scan
>Unpause game
>change HP Value and pause again
>Type in new HP Value and press Next Scan
>Change the two values that are left to -999999
Next time something happens to your HP you will die

>> No.27845995

What's the damage difference of a Crit vs a normal hit?

>> No.27846623
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>>27843787
>>27845453
This game uses double type for values.
Don't forget to change it before searching.

>> No.27849753

Kind of funny how Reine keeps eating eggs or reading superchats and letting bosses casually walk over and slap her shit.

>> No.27849929

>>27849753
bird brain + baby please understand

>> No.27852181

wats the highest level a skill can be? I've seen my friends get an insanely high level skill on mori but my skills stop dropping after a certain point

>> No.27852414

>>27852181
3, if it goes higher than that your friend is hacking

>> No.27854359

Reine is addicted or what??

>> No.27855584

>>27854359
>has 35+ hours of VS on stream, and god knows how many off stream
Yes

>> No.27856117

i got bored and stopped playing
its a free game not like I am complaining

>> No.27856182
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27856182

>>27856117
Same. I have a few thousand ready for when Gamers + new content drops but I've had my fill for now

>> No.27856333

>Reine has been playing for 5 hours
kek, how? Theres nothing to do and the game just gets easier the more you play

>> No.27856527

>>27834535
>>27834664
Mouse aiming would break the game and would instantly be the only way to play. Keyboard only would be completely obsolete.

>> No.27856799

>>27856333
She's farming gold and it's taking her forever because she doesn't have a good gold farming strategy. She's earning like 50-60% of what she could be, at best, per run.

>> No.27856814
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>>27856527
Good. Kill yourself.

>> No.27856835

>>27856814
There's no need to be upset, anon.

>> No.27856934

Sorry if this has been answered before, just a tourist stopping by
Will they eventually have weapons based on the ENs too so that they can have collab weapons?

>> No.27856948

>>27856527
He's planning on controller support, at least, which would probably be a typical twin-stick shooter. I wouldn't be surprised to see mouse aiming. The strafe mechanics seem like a weird thing to decide on and were probably more driven by inexperience (dev is clearly not a seasoned programmer and game maker is a shitty tool) than it really being the best option.

>> No.27857015

>>27856948
>game maker is a shitty tool
Nah, I know people who have used it to make professional 2D games. It's not a tool issue, it's a user issue. Like you said, dev has very little programming experience, likely just looked up a ton of youtube tutorials and frakensteined together a game.

>> No.27857017

>>27856934
MAYBE

>> No.27857068

>>27856948
Game Maker is good for a game like this though

>> No.27857126

>>27808609
>>27812084
Here's the spoonfeed, boomerchama https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRAB3tsj4A8

>> No.27857148

>>27856527
only a few of the weapons need to be aimed and it becomes irrelevant a few minutes into the game

>> No.27857212

>>27857126
Thank god, I can finally undo those three Kiaras I accidentally rolled while doing gacha.

>> No.27857261

>>27856948
game maker is very good for 2D games, which it's made for
and controller support is extremely easy to add with it

>> No.27857298

>>27857212
I don't like the idea of ranking up characters in general, if you're decent at the game it's already pretty easy to beat. I just want every character available and then leave them without the rank up buffs.

>> No.27857402
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>>27856948
>>27857015
>>27857261
Post your programming socks please

>> No.27857861
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>>27857402
I used to post these kind of pics in /g/'s /dpt/ many years ago.

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