/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>27721158
This is all Omega's fault.

It's not because of Kson it's because of Rushia you retard.

>>27721158
Jesus, you are right. This shit is messed up.

>>27721270
Kanata and Kson live together, you nigger. So Kanata moving out is because of Cover is afraid of Kson.

>breaking Kanata's sweet innocent heart all for a wretched hive of backstabbing whores
I hope you freeze in COCYTVS, Kson.

>>27721323
Oh jesus it's retarded and clueless.

>>27721158
>>27721308
>forced
no, this is the responsible thing to do to avoid any yab fuckery in the future. Holohouse is dead anyway.

>>27721158
cover is based. what else is new?

Normally I am against the intermingling of Holos and other corpo chuubas, but Jesas, these two have been gen mates and roommates forever. Kind of fucked up to drive a wedge between them just because Kson picked up someone else's banner

>>27721323
Source: the voices in my head.

>>27721323
cover has nothing to lose lmaoo.
their relationship with china already worse

>>27721329
>Coco's fault
>not the fault of the micro-dicked JP managers meddling in Kanata's personal life
Holobrony...

>Kanata cut Kson off when she found out what kind of "people" her new coworkers are
oh I am laffin

>>27721158
【状況報告!!】急遽お引っ越しすることに!!【天音かなた/ホロライブ】
Situation report! We're moving out in a hurry! [Kanata Amane/Horolive]
>we

The ban on collabs with Vwhorejo is next. KSON BTFO

>>27721484
>just because Kson picked up someone else's banner
>not giving a fuck if the other talent gets axed due to "accidental" leak of info
You're not too bright are you?

i actually agree with cover here, now that kson is in vsho the two of them living together dramatically increases the risk of NDA breaches from either of them

kanata moving out is the responsible thing to do, it protects them both in the long run

>>27721553
but she's friends with matsuri

>>27721158
I mean, why would they risk having the company's secrets leak out when they can prevent it by separating Kanata from the outsider?

OK all faggotry and schizophrenia aside, what is going on here? Give me the most likely rrat.

I'm actually amazed at how Holo barely has any leaks in the first place same as Nijisanji.
This is the right move whether people like it or not, I mean she can just move literally two doors away from her or something.

>>27721622
Kson broke Kanata's heart

Have people considered the possibility that she is moving out WITH “Friend-C” and the reasons for moving out are for something entirely unrelated?

>>27721641
>I'm actually amazed at how Holo barely has any leaks in the first place same as Nijisanji.
Japanese social autism punishes acting out of line way more than the west

>>27721622
Anon Google translated the title of a stream and decided to get some rrats in without even waiting a few hours to see what's actually happening

>>27721484
Yea it's pretty fucked up kson would join a twitch thot clique that has nothing but open sneering contempt for her closest friend's idol dreams

>>27721665
we are in vt, they didn't even read >27721580

>>27721622

Kanata is moving with me

>emergency meeting
>Moving out
For som reason, company pressuring his employees to move out is based nowadays
Wtf is wrong with you?

>>27721859
>your room mate is joining a company with someone you just fired for leaking.
I mean....drastic or not it's the right decision for both parties.

>>27721859

they work in different company now

NDA Nigger N D A

>>27721859
This shit is really indefensible
>Muh security clearance for my anime girls

>>27721859
>pressuring
heh nice try nijinigger

>>27721158
It's the only proper thing to do to avoid having a flat-out traitor snooping around behind the scenes. It'd be like going "pfft why would luna's niji friends care that she jumped ship pffffffft" - you can argue that they probably on a loose level kana/coco are still friends, but probably a lot more awkward of ones than before. Leaving the company and then joining a new one after you had specifically said you weren't gonna do that, and then going around trying to be BFFs with random absolute garbage twitch thot tubers, has got to strain PPT's perception of Coco at the very least.

>>27721158
not only kanata. but even the neighbor suisei too. unless there's a yab within the company, we won't know how petty they are. the history prove it.
this makes me remember Kson's heartfelt open letter after she moved into VShojo.

>Wait, is that a MALE in my heckin' VTuber collab? *THROWS MONITOR* God I fucking hate MALES! Fuck MALES, fuck BFE, heil GFE, and heil Yuribait!
> Wait, mentioning a MALE on my heckin GFE KINO COMFY Minecraft stream?!! *PUNCHES monitor* who these WHORES think i am?!! i just donated FUCKING 100$ this YEAR!
> Wait, this WHORE didn't stream today... *smashes keyboard* DOESN'T she have ANY FEELINGS? SHE'S my VIRTUAL GIRLFRIEND! NOW I'M FUCKING LONELY

This is disgusting and sad.
All because Hololive doesn't want to hear a "rival" company vtuber in the background.

>>27721158
cover had not made a public statement that they did not interfere in the personal life of the talent?

>>27721895
basically yeah coco is literally a security risk to Hololive now if she can just walk over to Kanata's computer and pull out the hard drive and have access to super sensitive current Holo stuff that she shouldn't. Holo opsec isn't known to be particularly super-good so it's not like we can expect ppt to know how to encrypt all her shit from now on.

Not to mention even if Coco didn't go on corporate espionage slants, all she'd have to do is stand next to ppt's door outside her room while she was talking with management about sensitive shit and boom, that's a problem.

I get the impression people who live around existing Holos either are in on NDAs and sworn to secrecy or literally don't know that the girl is a chuuba, it's different when you live with someone who knows exactly who/what you are and exactly how your company operates and exactly what to do to access sensitive shit with a big range of potential conflict of interest.

>>27722146
This is /vt/. Some schizo brewed up a rrat and other schizos are going with it. You don't need to think too hard about it.

>>27722146
>He believed that
Rorou rumao
Cover always makes a statement convenient for them at the moment.

DARK TRIAD IN ACTION
DARK TRIAD IN ACTION
DARK TRIAD IN ACTION
DARK TRIAD IN ACTION

>>27722101

>copy pasta

Trying to be better than other people?
You don't look like one sorry.

>>27721553
Everyone in hololive is as close or closer to Noel than kson is to Melody

>>27722191
Anon, i don't know if you know this, but Coco worked for cover, and i think she knows how they operate, who their staff is, and names of holos.

>Did you hear that she's moving? She's FOR SURE leaving that BITCH because they HATE each other!
>I think it's actually her company that FORCED her to move because of her roomate's new job. Isn't that OUTRAGEOUS and PROBLEMATIC?

>>27722272
Noel has significantly more class than Melody, so that's a moot point

>>27722301

>A typical holoAnti would say

>>27721895
People throw that term around like it's a fucking magic talisman, an arcane incantation that confirms everything that they want to be true.
You might be right that Cover has concerns, but it might not be related to an "NDA".

>>27722290
But does she know Cover's upcoming events? incoming gens? Master plans for world domination without the orange dragon?

>>27722339

>It is

If you can elaborate that its not about NDA, would you like to tells us your rrat about it?

>>27721158
>get laughed out of /jp/
>repost it here
roru

>>27722374
God I hate you children so much.

>>27722290
She's also not been an employee there for a year and now has an actual conflict of interest in working for a direct rival. She should be totally cut off from sensitive current events with Holo structure and management plain and simple.

Not to mention basically any semblance of good will that was offered to her from Holo rightly could be reneged on if Coco didn't hold up her side of neutrality. She specifically said she had no plans to join another company after Holo and yet this vshojo swap happened to day of her 1-year anniversary, very much looking like she waited for the second a non-compete contract was up and gave no shits how that looks.

You know, if you just waited 90 minutes you'd get to find out exactly what's happening and why without relying on schizo delusions
What's the fucking point of posting theories and arguing about something that's going to be answered in less than 2 hours

>>27721622
Risk of info leak is high when two chuubas from two rival corpos are living in the same room.

>>27722402

>was ask to elaborate
>began to seethe

ok then mister not child.

>>27722063
Kanata and Friend-C already moved out together from where Suisei is months ago.

Kson will be fine. She can make her own angels now.

>>27722456
I wrote >>27722339 and I am not >>27722402.
There are other contacts other than non-disclosure agreements that might matter, such as an information security policy. Guessing which one is in play here seems like a waste of time unless Kanata confirms it one way or another.

>>27721158
Kanata has been soliciting Lamy with her (nude) pics in the morning for a while. She is dumping that ex-dragon

>>27722528

>rrat theory here

That avatar resembles kanata.

What if it is meant for kanata instead of miguel from the get go but kanata refuse to leave hololive.

>>27722528
Maybe that's better, Kanata is a filthy mongrel, living in literal thrash can. Mike on the other hand is known for cleaning ocd.

>>27722528
Say her name, holobronies. Go on. Say her FUCKING name!

It was deleted from the VOD so I'm not sure if this normally allowed to be discussed, but kson's webcam fell once revealing a wall covered in Amane Kanata posters. They seriously love each other and if they're not so close anymore that's fine, but if corporate meddling is pulling them apart those corporations are monstrous.

>>27721158
>This is some Black Company shit.
True. Why would you leave a company and join another, rival, company without telling your friend? If kson told Kanata about her plans earlier, they could surely figure a better way to handle this.

>>27722631
Miguel Gato.

>>27722631
Nyatasha Nanners

>>27722604

ok apologies here, other anon looks like an auto seethe response to my question.

yeah we should wait for kanata

>>27722649
Only thing to do is wait the hour and change that's left and see what she says.
I have no idea what the fuck is going on, this timeline is strange and I don't like it.

>>27722691
There is nothing strange regardless whether it was Kanata's, or Cover's, or even Kson's decision. There are all sorts of business-related reasons for any of the three to want Kanata to move out (not to mention that it could simply be a coincidence, too). You guys are just blowing it out of proportion

ALL OUT WAR

Even if Cover forced it, It's totally understandable.
I mean Rushia of all people, Hololive is a company that relies on complete secrecy.
Cover don't take chances they rather just eliminate the risk all together, i.e RUST streamer server.

Kanata just doesn't want to be associated with Vwhorejo even tangentially because she's a huge idolfag and wants to be a good idol

>>27722688
No worries. It's the eternal downside to an anonymous discussion board.

>>27721622
Chinese nationals found where they were living and stormed the building. Due to the damage they caused Kanatan has to move out or stream from a building undergoing extensive renovations.

>>27722803

>Former Rushia
Now that you mentioned it, that menhera knows where kanata and suisei lived.
Thats why suisei also looking for a new house

>>27722631
What even is her name anymore?

>>27722761
>or Cover's
>nothing strange about your employer deciding where you fucking live
We're reaching levels of holobrony that shouldn't be possible. I omit my Selen image as I ask you if you really believe this, because I honestly hope that holobronies don't actually really, this time.

>>27722623
Silvervale said Nazuna designed the model though. It even has the same artist as before supposedly.

>>27722761
>You guys are just blowing it out of proportion.
I mostly stay in my oshi's split/general, and I didn't understand the "/vt/sisters" meme, but these last 3 months have given me understanding of it. For them, blowing things out of proportion isn't a fallacy to avoid, it's the goal they seek, and a thrill they crave.

>>27722631
michaello el enfermo mental...

So many rrats for a stream that hasn't even happened yet...

>>27722970

Thats the good part

>>27722970
Please look forward to part 2, "Kanata says something that directly contradicts the schizo narratives then they conduct Olympic-level mental gymnastics to declare themselves right anyway"

>>27722970
I would say something about filling a dartboard until you eventually hit the answer, but they mostly seem to be aiming for the same spot.

>>27723077

some anone here can become famous novel writer but the prefer to shitpost and rrats for fun.

>>27721597
By that logic all talents that don't live alone would need to be graduated. What if they break NDA with their family or roommate or spouse or whatever?

>>27721158
>Fail baiting on /#/
>Move to catalog

>>27721158
Actual black company shit wtf

>>27722631
>>27722853
It's funny how many people can't see that Kson and VShojo are nothing more than pawns in Rushia's revenge plan against Cover.

>>27722970
>2 years later and people are still using my shitty Luna screenshot crop
feels weird

>>27721158
It's an all-out war

>>27721622
Shinzo Abe

nijisanji and hololive must unite on that matter and put a complete embargo on vshojo "talents"

>>27723549
Can't stop the Black Ships.

>>27723549
vshartjo has been blacklisted for awhile

>>27723658
no, hachama and calliope just collaborated with ironmouse.

>>27721158
You know if Kanata had any qualms against it she could have just stayed because Cover can't really forcibly evict her from her home.

>>27723751
>fires her

>>27723751

you want kanata to live 24/7 worrying she might break NDA rules?

Let her go Kson

>>27723751
>Makes her life hell with constant denial of activities.

>>27723222
Not applicable because family aren't known chuubas that are part of a separate corpo. Some inside employee living with a burger flipper is whatever but being roomates with someone whose a member of a directly competing company just asks for either info leaks or extremely awkward living conditions.

>>27721158
>kanata move out
>rushia move in
based kson that's what you get for betraying your friend you flat tenshi gorilla you should've quit the company and join them in vshojo!

>>27723751
They can fire her, make her disappear, leave all her fans miserable. They are hostages so she has to comply.

>>27723751
look after "madogiwazoku" and "Oidashibeya". basically, when japanese companies want to get rid of someone, they put him in a empty room all day until he quit by himself.

>>27723751
she can just resign from hololive when her contract is up and join kson in vshojo but she didn't what a bitch.

>>27722860
Here we have a stupid retard with no life/work experience. The poor inept waste of skin doesnt seem to understand that some jobs , DO, ask you to move.

>kson was already doing all she does as indie
>but somehow now is a NDA issue
>also Cover will literally make Kanata kill herself if she doesn't move out
I like how /vt/ believes any rrat no matter how dumb it sounds

>>27723751
>>27723921
it's like a coach putting a player on the bench for the whole season.

Just admit that this gorillabitch got no balls to quit Hololive and join Kson in vshojo. She's a traitor.

>>27723883
Looking at the fans of Hololive, they would rather side with the company than with the talents themselves if anything like that happens.

>>27723751
>>27723793
>>27723823
>>27723825
And take a rep hit equivalent to that of firing Coco during the chink our instead of keeping her for another year? The only reason people were fine with Rushia was because she actually did leak info and did it in the dumbest way possible. Firing someone for not wanting to move is a giga yab that would evaporate a massive chunk of fan goodwill that they built up over the years.

For the people sperging out what alternative do you propose?
I think kson is professional and wouldn't leak anything but you can't say for certain and certainly Cover can't trust that either.
And if something did manage to leak who would people point fingers at first? It would be Kanata by default because of her connection to Kson who is connected to Rushia (who is clearly mentally unstable)

>>27723946

>sudden urgent meeting with management literally hours after kson announcement
>suddenly inexplicitly moving less than a week later

black company

Kanata is leaving Coco because she wanted to keep their relationship "true." For the sake of the family, "no one is leaving the team anymore than myself." She's right to, but not as much as some of her peers.

Lola and Coco were together for over a decade before they started making an unofficial alliance. This, along with Coco's support for Ren and the Danganronpa series by its founder, Tsunemori Harumoto, has made them one of the most popular anime and manga characters in Japan.

Lola would soon become Coco's friend. To prevent her staying at the show, they had to make a promise to leave before she became an official member.

"And I won't let the guy who brought them down do that…!"

She also didn't do this without giving her all she had to offer

After all, Coco is his most trusted friend and he'll always be loyal to her. It's what she wanted out of him. The two are at loggerheads. He doesn't like her because she's young and he wants her out of danger and in search of happiness. His attitude and personality don't match hers.

Lola's parents worked hard for her as a maid, but she'd have to live with an untrustworthy father and a broken home. She kept their relationship "true" at first, especially since she didn't really feel like a part of the

>kson got a huge pile of cash from vshojo for joining their company
>she decided to move to high class ropongi mansion with rushia
>hey kanata wanna move together?
>kanata asked her manager for advice
>yagoo said no because rushia never slept with yagoo and he is still bitter about that
>kanata had to move out and find a new place while kson and rushia live in roponggi vip mansion
top kek lmao

>>27723946
The resident schizos on this board start from the predetermined conclusion that Cover operates like the villains in a Yakuza game and write fanfiction for every minor event based on that premise

It's the most logical thing to do you retards. Fatson is now in a rival company (lmao) so Kanatan has to avoid any kind of leak of information that Fatson could potentially hear of learn about. She sucked Vwhorjo so much during the explanation stream that her revealing anything she would hear from Kanata would not be that far fetched of a guess.

Kson has been maintaining the kayfabe (albeit poorly) that she lives alone. This might be a weird attempt at something similar on Kanata's end: saying she is moving so that she is no longer with "Friend C", but not actually moving.
Yes, I'm suggesting she would lie about this. Kson already does.

>>27721580
>>27721771
No you fuckers just can't read. There were no plurals anywhere in this fucking sentence.

>>27724049
is this some schizo fanfic me reading is?
wtf is wrong with you anon?
you never met any of the girls you mentioned in real life everything is in your head all the things you said

>>27724066
Nah Kanata wouldn't risk it, If she gets caught out lying she would be done for.

>>27723971
Between actually following your dreams while your on literally limited time due to a disease or following your friend to join company that's not even music focused and throwing away your current career I would choose to stay. I treasure my friends but I'm not just going to toss away my current progress while a disease slowly renders me deaf.

>>27722191
You've watched too many goddamn movies

>>27724098
I'll be sure to tell the AI text generator what you said about him

>>27724061
Fatson worked for cover, she knows everything and more, and nothing happened. Your argument is nonsensical.

>>27724061
Ahem!
Vshojo is not a company.
t.Kson

>>27724049
10/10 best schizo post I've seen all week.

>>27723946
>no matter how dumb it sounds
Friendly reminder that a shitload of people that post on this board are mentally retarded.

>>27724124
she knows about future projects/information does she?

Ahem!
Kson is not fat!
Stop fat shaming!

>>27721641
who needs leaks when schizos can just make up what is definitely happening behind the scenes. As shown by this thread.

>>27724176
Kson is not joining vshojo!
Don't trust the schizo!

>>27723994
She'll be live in 30 minutes.
Tell me who to trust.

>>27721622
Kanata was the assassin that shot Shinzo Abe. She’s moving to prison. That’s what the announcement is.

>>27724124
She knows how they worked in the past yes. What about the future?

I don't understand, why does she has to tell everyone that she is moving out?
Where's the privacy? You don't have to tell everyone about everything in your private life?
Is this woman stupid?

>>27724234
it will probably interfere with her stream schedule, plus its gonna come out that she moved at some point anyway

>>27724234
because KanaCoco fans are fucking crazy.

has chef boyardee tweeted about this yet?

>>27724143
She lived with Kanata for for a year after graduation, and nothing was leaked, now she is suddenly Snowden
Take your meds,and gobble on Yahoo's cock.

Kanata is moving out because she has decided to move in with her boyfriend.
t.her boyfriend.

>>27724291
almost like she didn't join a company with someone who just got fired for leaking in that year you fucking dunce.

>Kson joins vshojo
>American CEO ordered Kson to kick her friend out from her place because she belongs to a rival company.
>"But sir! You told me Vshojo is not a company so techinically she's not my rival!"
>"You signed the contract so shut up and do what I told you to! Chingchong!"
>"Sorry Kanata please move out, I got tricked by a company again I shouldn't have signed the contract."
>"It's okay Coco, we can still have phone sex on discord. I love you."
The greatest love tragedy of all time.

>>27721641
>two doors away
More like 2 cities away. Kanata roommate already unfollowed Mikeneko. With Mikeneko joining vshojo, offcolab with Kshit is inevitable

>>27724291
Retard, as an indie she was totally harmless. Bow that she has the backing of a company, any leak of information could potentially be harmful to the Holomembers.

>>27724291
>She lived with Kanata for a year after graduation

But wasn't under contract with a rival vtubing company.

>>27724351
vshojo is not a company they just sell merch and they will never interfere with their private life covershill

>>27724375
Retard.

>>27724375
t. Kson

Literal black company.

>>27724375
Proof? Your ass?

>>27724375
Humongous retard, wasting my fucking time for absolutely nothing. That's on their OWN website.

>>27724375
>Got 11 million dollars from investors.
>not a company
EEK OOK EEK LA

>>27724375
>vshojo is not a company

>>27721158
Ah. So Cover really is an "idol company" after all: right down to abusive contracts that dictate their talents' personal lives.

>>27724465
They were always hypocrites, and the cosmic irony of
>We don't interfere with talent private life
Is so fucking hilarious

>It's cover's fault
>definitely has nothing to do with vshojo
retards in this thread I swear
it takes two to tango faggots

>>27724465
I don't think it has anything to do with idol culture, though.

>>27724375
This response is so stupid I can't tell if it's a false flag or not. I know literally no one in the vshojo or kson generals believes this, so why the fuck are you doing this? Fuck off false flagger.

>>27724465
>boohoo i have to respect the close on the contract i read and voluntarily signed

Jesus christ your a fucking retard

>>27723921
That's retarded, it would be awesome if I could get paid for doing nothing

>>27724510
Look at this shill and laugh
You could make argument It is vshojo fault if Kson was the one moving out, you dumb braindead skunk.

>>27724465
>>27724495
If cover has the power to force this as you say, why wouldn't they just prevent her from saying anything about it? It's not like she's a stranger to long unannounced breaks.

>>27724559
Says the basement dweller with no work experience.
Slice that wrist - down the road not across

>>27724559
And what if Kson is the lease holder and is kicking Kanata out because she defended Cover and they had a falling out?

>>27724559
>kson rent a house with her name
>she has to move out
Do you watch vtuber?

>>27724579
I see, no arguments there, so it's time for insulting.

>>27724559
Do you understand what I mean by "it takes two to tango?"
How am I a shill?
Please explain.

I am still waiting for your reply.
>>27724559
>>27724629
Explain how am I a shill?

>>27724623
ESL-chama, this was an argument. About how much of an autist with no life experience you are.
>dont insult :((
You do realize where the fuck you are ?

we're going to find out in literally 5 minutes why are people arguing

>>27724465
This is bait by a tranny that doesn’t watch chuubas, move along.

Kanata's moving into Kson's fat gut

>>27724722
That’s just how you post on /vt/, anon.

>>27724722
This is the only thing that makes me feel alive anymore.

>>27724722
I am still for that retard to explain how am I a shill.

>>27724761
If you don't agree that Cover are bad because <thing I made up because I am off my meds> then you must be a shill

>>27722623
Nazuna designed it herself, apparently the early design was quite different.

>>27724667
>Cover didindu nufin, it's all whores fault
That's why

>>27724836
>Nazuna designed it herself
Uhh is that true? So she actually deliberately modeled herself after Kanata then?

>>27724722
because most people on this website are severely mentally ill

>ITT people discovering standard practices in entertainment companies

>>27724845
I said "it takes two to tango".
I am sorry I think you are underage please go to school and suck your moms tits

>>27721158
>moving out for "risk prevention"
>her friend will not be coming with her

Doesn't Suisei live in the same building, and she's just been talking about how she has to move as well?

>>27725325
Yep there you go, she can't live with someone in a rival company. When Kson was an indie it was fine but now she's in another company (and brought the NDA breaking traitor with her) it's now a risk

>>27725362
They moved out of "holohouse" months ago. Suisei isn't across the hall from them anymore.

>>27725362
No, she already moved
Also apparently Kanata wasn't told about what was going to happen because she was the one who called that urgent meeting with her manager

>>27722191
>anons itt learned Cover was against Coco
Took you 2 years. Better late than never, i guess?

>>27725391
also said they are still on good terms

>>27721580
There is no "we" in that sentence. Japanese doesn't need to include nouns or pronouns to be a proper sentence and this is an example of that. In cases like that, auto-translators try to fill in the blank for English because a noun or pronoun IS required. Think like the sentence "Run" in English. In this case, it's just "Suddenly moving out"

>>27725414
kek, kson didn't tell her about the vshojo thing?
what a friend she is.

>>27725442
They were so against her it took them two years to separate her with Kanata.

>>27721589
Holy cope

>>27724142
Not me. I scored a 75% on my IQ test, which is barely passing.

I feel like people often forget that VTubing is actually a cutthroat industry for the most lucrative jobs in the world. It's quite brutal behind the scenes.

Who is next

> Mito 100% , Kuzuha , Toya 80%+ , Lize ,

I think Mito first graduated in next week > Toya > Kuzuha

Yes it’s cover fault and not soon for replacing kanata. It totally did not hurt her feelings to see kson get a new angel partner to foil and leech against.

>>27725577
Wrong thread faggot. I'll be with you there later.

>>27722415
...neutrality?
You're not at war anon, she just got another job holy shit.

>>27721859
/vt/ is filled with right wingers who cheer on corporations crushing workers

>>27725627

this isn't black company graduation thread?

>>27725703
Well, maybe not filled with, but I think that’s pretty based.

>>27725703
Why do dems love to push their political bullshit over everything?

>>27725703

>Anon really thinks that the world revolves around western politics

BTFO Faggot

>>27725703
>corporations crushing workers
Who was "crushed" in the present scenario?

>>27725768
>corporations crushing worker's right
>western politics
you're a giant retard

>>27724142
This is some of the worst color grading I've ever seen in a chart.

>>27725795
Kanata

Alright, you fuckers:
(from the pinned comment in the stream)
Kanata mainly talks about 2 things that happened recently
The first thing is her rabbit getting Uterine cancer
And the second is that she’s moving out and finding her new place for risk mitigation for her future
She will try to settle down around August and stream again
Although she and Yuujin and living separately from now on they are still great friends and decide to go to a vacation trip once stuff settle down and will talk about it during stream.

Now, go touch grass.
(So, Kanata will have to go further to snuggle in Kson's bed. She can use the excercise).

>>27721597
Oh no....cover's shitty busted tech that nobody wants my get leaked. Cover is insane. Kanata should just graduate and go to vshojo. These stupid girls don't understand they have leverage now

>>27725800
>Muh corporations bad because dey bad
Yeah that's Cultural Marxism for you, and it is exclusively a modern Western ideology. Don't you have some lazy ass corrupt union to fellate somewhere?

>>27725795
Well, Kanata called an emergency meeting with her manager herself (obviously suggesting she didn't know about the news until we did) and then decided to move out (a thing which she'd already made clear would happen if circumstances required it months ago), so in conclusion, Cover bad

>>27725833
Let's not exagerate. She's only moving out, and has the money to do so.

>>27725740
you're proof this board is filled with psychopaths

>>27725800
>Right wingers

Yeah, again, BTFO!

It wouldnt be a problem IF coco didnt literally take rushia and even go full low blow on cover. This is a clear declaration of hostility towards them. I mean why else would they hired rushia who broke NDA!? They ride on holobrand to established their own agency while parading the same old "Muh creative freedom" campaign for their requitement. This is some lex luthor level shit. Glad that kanata willing to go along with cover to stay away from kson
>captcha : okppt

>>27721756
Iron Mouse loves idols

>>27725758
>dems
>pushing for worker's rights
why are you americans so retarded

>>27725908
no of her own volition

Coco is a backstabbing betrayer CUNT for wanting to further her career instead of slowly fading into indie irrelevance.
Kanata is a corporate slave whore and a coward for letting corporate orders rule her personal life.
But Cover is a spotless beacon of virtue and completely blameless in all this I mean just look at this wholesome chungus yagoo haha god I looooove Hololive™ so heckin much!!! =D

>>27725910
That’s a compliment, though.

Kson and Vshojo are unforgivable at this point. I hope they suffer the full wrath of their antis.

>>27725915

>>27725881
>Cultural Marxism
oh, you're a /pol/fag, makes sense now
if you support capitalist big wigs making life hell for everyone but themselves, you're a big fucking retard and should neck yourself
corporations exploit people worldwide, not just in the west

>>27726009

Its the chink man, not a fan of Kson but hope she can endure it.

>>27725985
You're taking the most bizarre "enlightened centrist" position I've ever seen.

>>27725884
>Kson doesn't tell about her new plans
>Kanata is as surprised as anyone
>Calls for meeting with manager
>Expresses concern her friend is getting chummy with a known leaker and doxxer
>manager asks if she has considered moving
>kanata has and will do it
>meeting ends
>ksonfagS: OmG iT'S aLL COVers FAULT!1one
kek

>>27725842
>her rabbit getting Uterine cancer
I can't believe kekson glows

>>27725985
>Kson bad for wanting to continue her career
>Kanata bad because Cover is forcing her do bad things
>But also Cover somehwos good because buzzwords

>>27726009
>Kson and Vshojo are unforgivable at this point.
for what lol

>>27721158
Why is she infeont of an ISIS banner?

>>27726069
Or that rabbits are shit pets and often die within a few years.

itt: EOPs discussing a JP stream

>>27726055
Almost correct, the sequence of events is actually
>kson tells Kanata her plans at some point
>Kanata decides a month ago that she's going to move out
>Calls a meeting with her manager and explains the situation having already decided to move out
>This is Cover's fault because ???

>>27722415
Oh no, is Coco going to tell Nyanners all of hololive's precious important secrets??

Fucking hell. It's hololive, not the CIA.

>>27726113
Kek

>>27725980
By signing a contract with them, she already
gave her approval.

>>27725985
Unironically yes, except kanatan loves hololive and is happy to work a fulfilling dream job. Go back to discord.

>>27726141
Leakeneko was literally fired for leaking personal information of holos ncluding where they live.

This can only means one thing. That their sex lifes is getting dull and they need a refresher. So instead of breaking up, Kanata decides to move out and find new home, so when they actually meet the sex would feel desperate and more fierce.

>>27726148
>She wroks for their corporation so Cover can dictate verything she does in her life
Jesus fucking Christ
You're actually fine with Holos being literals slaves to Cover

>>27726134
i think kanata is doing some very good risk management by moving out.

>>27726134
Then why bother with "emergency meeting!". All that would be needed was this stream alone.

>>27726212

>Holos being literals slaves to Cover

>>27726190
>Leakeneko
And what does she have to do with it?

>>27726208
Can't believe kson joined vshoujo just so they can roleplay spy hatesex properly

>>27726028
NTA but I love the irony of lefties. Keep going anon you look great kek.

>>27726028
NTA but it's really weird that you'd simp for VShojo (a big corpo) in that case. Why even involve yourself in the battle between two corpos? Don't say "well VShojo is a good corpo" or something, the very essence of the idea of a corpo in a capitalist framework is rotten; there is no good corpo. And please for the love of god don't try to argue that VShojo isn't a corporation.

>>27726254
What company does she work for now, retard?

>>27726212
She literally said she decided to move on her own before telling her manager what was happening

>>27726274
None, she's an indie, retard.

>>27726212
>literals slaves
Were they physically forced to sign with Cover?

>>27726265
>NTA but it's really weird that you'd simp for VShojo (a big corpo) in that case.
No one, not even me, has said anything positive about Vshojo in that whole conversation. Why are you putting words in my mouth?
Criticising Cover doesn't mean you somehow magically support Vshojo.

>>27721484
well play that stupid orange cunt for betraying her former friends and especially her genmates to go be a fucking whore. So happy kanata is moving away from her. Hopefully their relationship will fade and become nothing

>Kanata finds out Kson is joining vshojo.
>Realizes cover will not like it.
>Moves out for now.
>Plans to sell out Hololive to Kson since they're still in contact.
>Will join Vshojo with the next batch of jp once she's managed to manipulate the rest of hololive into wanting to be whores.

COOOOOPE AND SEEEEETHE

>Kanata choose hololive
>Divorce Kekson

RORUMAO!

>>27726212
Anon…you might be retarded…or underage…go back…

I hope Rushia now moves in with KSON to complete the circle

I would lost my job instantly if i am living with a rival bank employee.

>>27726297
Would you really wish that leakeneko stayed as an indie? Here's the monkey paw btw.

>>27726326
Yes.

>>27726326
Motherfucker. Jobs are hard to come by. People need to work if they want to survive. They saw an opening in Cover's employment and applied for it, getting accepted in the end. Everyone is forced to work in this economy.
Working under a company doesn't give that company full fucking right to just infringe on the private life of someone just like that.

>>27726141
>Fucking hell. It's hololive, not the CIA.
You realize that Vtubing is a multi-million dollars market?

>>27726336
God forbid she have a career outside your black idol company

>>27725703
Of course. I'm a landlord. Fuck you people. I need more money for superchats.

Kanata would prefer to be a corporate slave than be friends with ksatan
LOO

>>27726397
She is an indie. She is not a retard like Kson, and will never choose whores who will kill her career.

>>27726437
The best thing the Chinese did is to massacre all of their landlords. That's one thing they did right.

>>27726409
Hello? This is JAPAN we're talking about.

>>27721158
She's moving into Marine abd Lamy's apartment.

>>27726141
Cover is unironically more competent at not leaking shit than glowies. And they're keeping it that way by removing an employee from a cancer tumor.

>>27726480
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING
Every single fuckign country is capitalist barring like 5 who are still socialist. Japan's job market isn't any better than the US' is.

>>27726455
I hear fear in that answer.

>>27721158
Kson is moving because she wants to retry her dumb Holohouse concept, except with Vshojo JP members this time. Kanata is given almost no notice, and is now forced to either find another roommate (and deal with all the possible problems that could cause) or pay the entire rent by herself. She's decided to instead move somewhere else which will be less expensive.

>>27726468
Then move and go live there, fag. Prove it.

>>27726504
>Move away from whores
>To live with Marine.
Pottery

>>27726409
>Working under a company doesn't give that company full fucking right to just infringe on the private life of someone just like that.
Cover isn't breaking any laws by asking her to move out.

And other, less paying, less stressful jobs are available in Japan.

>>27726550

Marine is horney nor whore FYI

>>27726423
You realize that that is a drop in the bucket compared to anything else in entertainment. They're not fucking Disney. They're not even Real Madrid. These girls need to wake up and stop letting black companies ruin their lives. The niji-holo model needs to die. Talent should always be first. Not company politics

>>27726547
Oh, I have no intentions of moving there. I'm just advocating that we should try the same thing everywhere where you landlord filth are allowed to operate. :)

My beloved gay icons, torn apart by corpo fuckery.

>>27726582
Cover also literally didn't ask her to move out
She said she made the decision by herself a month ago before they knew what was happening

>>27726437 here
Also I forgot to mention I eat babies and kick puppies. I love Hololive by the way. I am not a falseflag. Anyone who doesn't blindly hate Kanata or Cover is just as evil as me so you should attack us for being evil chuds instead of point out what's so wrong about >>27726618

>>27725915
Not telling Kanata is the straw that breaks everything to this whole drama for me.
Kson had to have known there would be mixed feelings about her decision in the community, even if it was just her joining vshojo, but whatever it's a business decision and you've got to take risks to progress.
Inviting Rushia to the mix was clearly a statement of intent, if Kson is so involved with the vtubing scene she could have thought of a thousand other aspiring Indies to push up rather than the risky cunt who still had a ton of hangover fans anyway. It was obvious she only heard Rushias side and only took that into consideration, advertising the no limits seems like rubbing the salt in the wound. Whatever, a misguided sense of pity and camaraderie, Rushiarl leaving had basically zero impact anyway, showing how irrelevant she wound up being. She'll either do what she was always doing or fuck up again.
Purposefully neglecting to tell her closest friend and force all the consequences of this choice on her without any warning while in another country? Major cunt move. Shows a lack of trust in Kanata, can only be interpreted that she wasn't confident in her own decision that she couldn't even face possible confrontation about it and was actively avoidant in order to fulfill a selfish impulse, this done at the height of Kanata being ill and the bad news about her rabbit.
It's a messy departure and it completely sours any goodwill I had towards Kson's decision.

>>27726594

>here fag
>>27726618

Where did that corpo hatred came from, Corpo == Evil?
Get a life!

>>27726594
>Talent should always be first. Not company politics
Lol. That's a bit utopic, don't you think?

>>27721158
>ditch kayfabe, start showing up as real life you
>ignore that your room-mate might not enjoy living somewhere that could cause her to get stalked by proxy
gee I wonder why Kanata is moving out

>>27726582
legality =/= morality
just because Japanese law (which is retarded in many aspects allows companies to act like pieces of shits towards its employees, doesn't mean it's good to do so. Actions like this should be opposed by any morally good person.
>And other, less paying, less stressful jobs are available in Japan.
Lmao, no. Job markets in every country are busted. Even low paying factory jobs are harder to come by this day. Not to mention that those jobs treat their workers even worse than Cover does.

>>27726618
She would never be allowed to say Cover asked her to move out. Got to protect best girl Yagoo's reputation after all. Kanata is a coward who lets her job dictate her friends

>>27726679
>Corpo == Evil?
by corpos exploiting workes, ruining the environment, meddling in politics etc. all for the sake of their own profits and making everyone else's life miserable
try to go out into the real world for once, corpos aren't your friends

>>27726747
THIS, SO FUCKING MUCH THIS
my respect for Kanata is literally worse than a shitstain on my boot

>>27726747

>Source?

>>27726747
Yeah I saw this one coming
>>27723077

>>27721895
It's actually completely fine to be working in rival companies and living together in most scenarios. The risk of breaking NDA just because they're living together is being overstated, it's not actually that risky.

People are acting like they work for the CIA or some shit. It's time for a reality check. I can't say who made this decision, but if NDA is the reason, they're being unreasonable.

>>27726747
>I'm all about talents first but also KANATA is a fucking YELLOW-BELLIED DOG of the BOURGEOUISE and she's a FILTHY LIAR

>>27726618
Damage control.

>>27726770

So thats where it came from, ok anon good luck with your miserable life!

>>27726701
>legality =/= morality
Oh so you're just a revolutionary. Good luck with that, I guess.

>>27726591
Not yet, but Kanata us a gateway to Kson who is a gate way to the whores, Marine is in contact with whores and will become one

>>27726113
I wish they'd spend more time studying Japanese instead of spreading misinformation

>/vt/ doesn't know about kson's chuuba instumentality project
it's probably for the best
need to ease the tribalniggers into it

>>27721158
Suisei and anemachi are moving as well. There's probably an issue with the apartment complex they all stay at.

>>27726833
>the law sucks at protecting people rights currently
>oh so you're a commie pinko then
careful there buddy, you might snap your back with how much reaching you're doing

>>27726798

>all wildfire starts in a smoke

And prevention is better than cure
Cover doesn't want to lose another precious talent over Bullshit.

>>27726747
>kanata: cover made me move
SEEEEEE??? IT'S COVER!
>kanata: I decided to move
SEEEEEE??? IT'S COVER!

please seek help

>>27726676
So KSON is a bad friend for not divulging vshojo company secrets, but Kanata has to move because Kanata can't not divulge company secrets?

>>27726676
Didn't Kanata know a month or so ago though? Kanata was already planning to move out since she knew this move from kson was going to be a problem. The issue I take is how sneaky it is, kson claimed vshojo wasn't a company (which is an easily disproved lie) for no damn reason and then claims that she wasn't directly scouted by them (which is hard to believe), she was merely slipped a business card coincidentally around the time vshojo received 11 million in investor money.

>>27726871
Read the thread retard, they haven't lived in the same building for months.

>>27726696
It's how sports and movies work (less so now that disney owns everything). The girls should own their own models and move between agencies like free agents when their contracts are up

>>27727054

>Suisei and anemachi are moving as well.

Probably because miguel knows where she lives.

>we're still friends! we're on good terms! we'll meet up later, nothing will change!
who are you trying to convince, kanata

>>27721158
Cover is panicking and retaliating in any way they can. They are afraid because they know Kson's plan may work.

>>27727128
kanacoco shippers who have meltdown on twitter

>>27727132
Did you not scroll through the thread and read the part where Kanata decided this on her own before writing your post

>>27726895
>reaching
You're the one asking for a company to be more "moral" than what the laws of their country require from them.

>>27727128
not the schizos like you, that's for sure. nothing she can say or do would convince mentally ill people.

Feels like everything's going downhill. Kson, then rushia, then kanata...I'm not a fan of this timeline.

>>27727158
yes, but this anon is right >>27726747

>>27725930
Maybe she shouldn't have joined a company that's the complete antithesis of idols then.

>>27727158
DUDE OF COURSE SHE'S LYING! EVERYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT MY NARRATIVE IS A LIE! IT'S THE EVIL CORPO! BOOTLICKER! NO I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE MY MEDS!

>>27727209
but what if it was true that she decided on her own? you have zero evidence to back up your claim.

>>27724443
>>27724458
Ok, I will spell it as detailed as possible because you are clearly autistic: Vshojo is not a company like Cover or Nijisanji because they have absolute 0 control on talent, 0 restrictions or contract obligation regarding to streams. They do not own streamers, their models or their content. All they do is provide tech and legal support as well as some 'coaching' and in turn they get the rights to take fat cut from their streamers merch which is main source of money in big vtuber business.
But because this description is too long it's easier to say "Vshojo is not sure company" because most people with fully functioning brain will get it what it means.

>>27721158
even kanata doesnt want kson anymore..

All this did was remind me of how separated Gen 4 is.

>>27727247

I Insist Schizo!!!

>>27727103
Even simple contractors have to bow down to company politics. See the world of wrestling..

>>27726895
Damn, you actually destroyed me and I have to concede on that point. Did I mention I eat babies and burn down orphanages in my free time? I'm very evil, you see. I also am very stupid and uneducated like all Hololive fans (the standard deviation of intelligence and beliefs in our community is 0). Continue to engage with me and tear my genuinely crafted poorly constructed arguments apart one by one. I am a real person. Here's another: why should I care about the FEELINGS of poor poor Kanata as she's brutally forced to undergo a relocation, much like the Nazis did to victims in the past, when she's going to be making the company so much MONEY, and as CEO of a massive company myself, I can empathize with making a lot of money much more than such illogical reddit things like Kanata's poor distraught crying heart as she is forced with no agency of her own to walk the Trail of Tears.

>>27727247
>you have zero evidence to back up your claim
Kson's member post hints at it

>>27727171
>you're reaching for asking a company to not exploit it's workers
fucking retard, no wonder the west is collapsing with dumbasses like you

>>27727103
>anon doesn't understand vtubing business model

Companies can force you to say who you live with and what company they work for? Kinda fucked up.

>>27726966
If there was knowledge ahead of time then that takes away the main issue I had and Ksons back to just making dumb decisions that will hopefully pay off for the community. What I had read so far is that this was dumped on Kanata out of nowhere though. It's why written statements would be nice to have from the talents and the stream to provide added context.
>>27726967
Only if the news wasn't given to Kanata ahead if time. Keeping a decision that would drastically impact the living situation of someone for the sake of a surprise reveal would make Kson a very shitty friend.

>>27726798
This is true for most companies. However, they both work from home, and one of them is a facecam streamer at that. In an industry with offcollabs, so other people from the company will be visiting that home. One of whom is Mikeneko.

>>27727396
Underage or never worked?

>>27726840
Holy ESL

>>27727283
But they are a company
It's also demonstrably possible to do the same things they're doing without an incorporated company, because that's what VOMS is

>>27727295
Towa buying them all food to eat together was the most united they've ever been, that or the time they were on stage at holofes.

You people sound and act like cultists

>>27727362
I'm glad you moved from "literal slavery" to "exploitation" at least.

>>27727432
I have and they never asked if anyone I lived with was part of a rival company.

>>27726798
>The risk of breaking NDA just because they're living together is being overstated
What part of risk did you not understand?

>>27727486
Which ones, the VCorposimps or the Holobronies?

>>27727522
Holo for sure

>>27727522
Yes

>>27727522
if we're going to be honest, both.

>>27727522
Vcorposimps most likely, they're the only ones chimping out these past few days while not a single Hololive fan is saying anything wrong.

>>27727396
Despite what people here are claiming, they cannot, so most people here are arguing about something that corpos literally cannot do.

>>27721158
>moving out for "risk mitigation"
What did she mean by this

>>27727522

hello there newfag!

KYS!

>>27727522
Do you even have to ask? Obviously both.

>>27727626
It means Cover now consider Kson to be a major risk to their profits

>>27727522
Everyone, including indie-"lovers" and anti-corpos

>>27724443
>Vtuber company
uhh kson sisters? i thought Vshoujo wasnt a company?

https://youtu.be/yBmoY-m64so?t=611
> So yeah, I'll be moving out.
> Why this became urgent is... well...
> It's hard to explain this properly...
> There were many small problems with the room already.
> I thought a lot about it, and came to the conclusion that moving would be better.
> [Did you open a hole in the wall?] no! *more chat bantz*
> [What about the deposit/advance?] Well yeah there's various issues, the original plan was to live here for a long time after all. *more chat bantz*
> Once I decide to move, I usually take around a month to slowly move my stuff.
> This time, well, even the moving date hasn't been decided yet. It's really short notice.
> I'm preparing to move while looking for places to move, I'd like to finish moving by the end of July, so it's a bit of a hectic situation.
> If I did things normally I would've been able to stream while moving, but yeah right now things are a bit hectic, so I might not be able to stream regularly.
> [Wanna move to Mari-Lamy place?] *some discussion about them and more bantz*
> It's not like 'something happened! gotta move!', but more like 'something could happen in the future', wait that's also concerning wording.
> Well there's a lot of this and a lot of that *laugh*.
> Thinking of all sorts of "possibilities" you know.
> Right yeah that's a good way to say it. When I thought of all the 'possibilities', I went 'hmm'... and thought that it would be best if those 'possibilities' were stomped out before they could form.
> Whether it's related to work or for my own confidence, I decided to do things 'properly', and so I decided on this.
> [Risk Avoidance] - comment.
> Oh Yes! Genius! That's the term! Risk Avoidance, yeah.
> I've lived with Yuujin C for the past 2 years, and it'll be the first time I'll be living alone in a long time, so I'm a bit nervous.
> Of course we're still friends with her. We're not fighting or anything.
> [Is your friend moving?] Since she has the current place, she's not moving in the near future. I'll be moving first (heavily implying that KSon will also be moving soon).
> I'm still planning to go on that planned trip with Yuujin C.

Seems likely that management informed the talent of the risks involved and left the decision up to them. And it very much looks like Mike might have been the issue since she looks to have been added somewhat last minute.

>>27727626
She takes her privacy, and the whole idol business, seriously
The person she lives with is a facecam streamer who just joined a group infamous for having tons of stupid drama
She'd already said months ago that this would happen if it needed to

>>27727693
HL's got like 50+ chubas at this point, VS has, what, less than 10? What profit risk? That's like Microsoft being worried about OS2.

>>27727741
The risk is Kson taking Rushia with her and claiming all she wants is for vtubers to be free and happy. Others may follow.

>>27727794
This argument sort of falls apart when you remember Hololive does not have an exclusivity clause
If any of them want to stream something they can't do "at work" literally nothing is stopping them

>>27727706
>> It's not like 'something happened! gotta move!', but more like 'something could happen in the future', wait that's also concerning wording.

see, this is the reason
>Prevention is better than Cure!

Download and Play HoloCure BTW its a decent game!

>>27727612
Literally this. The only thing people who argue Kanata is being "forced" to move out by Cover can do is say she's a liar.
>>27727626
It means there are potential career-jeopardizing happenings that might occur with continuing to live in the same house that will be hard to avoid. She's aware of what those "risks" are, and wants to "mitigate" them by moving out. If you think she's being "forced" to do so, you should just own up and say you think Kanata (>>27727706) is a lying spineless coward.

>>27727877
That has nothing to do with what was said.

>>27728003
The premise is that they're all unhappy being forced to make content under the oppressive boot of Cover Corp
If that was actually the case why wouldn't they just stream twice a month on their holo account to meet contract obligations and collect free money while streaming on another channel the rest of the time, which would be completely allowed

>>27728049
So you actually believe they can all just freely join Vshojo on another channel?

>>27727794
Rushia is accepted out of pity, any Holos making such a transparent move will never be able to shake the stigma and it will define them more than their new ventures make it worth. It's already this bad for Kson afterall.
That's the thing about Vshojo's marketing the freedom angle, you're never truly free and the bigger your past life the bigger a lie it becomes.

>>27727706
So basically there's stuff in KSon's contract/plans which goes against their current living arrangement. Either Rushia being an issue, having staff from VShojo in the place, or having men in the apartment. They've not fallen out over it, and if anything moving out is to help their friendship.

>>27728095
Pretty sure Hololive has a non-compete clause. It's perfectly fine if it's indie work, but working under another company, even on the loosest meaning of the word, is still a contract breach.

>>27728095
How did you possibly derive that from their post?

>>27728173
>>27728179
>This argument sort of falls apart when you remember Hololive does not have an exclusivity clause

>>27727794
Please stop quoting the Nijicope list.
> #16 Hololive's restrictive management will cause their talents to eventually graduate (>>8445392 <span class="deadlink">>>11875343)</span>

>>27728095
>>27728255
That dumbass argument is premised on the idea that they're unhappy streaming under Cover and would rather work with no restrictions, except they can all do that already if they want (with an indie second channel) and almost none of them do

>>27728120
Basically, yeah.
I'm inclined to think it's Mike, since she's not exactly right in the head and might not be the best person to trust your home address to.

>>27728278
I'm not saying this is happening, retard. I'm saying Cover think of it as a risk.

>>27728354
It's on about the same level of risk as them all dying in a train crash on the way to USJ or something
Sure it could happen but there's very little chance of it and no obvious need to do anything about it

>>27727609
Could've at least rephrased this to not immediately give away your personal bias.

>>27728328
Mike probably knows a lot of Holo's home addresses and, as far as I know, only Sui, Lamy and Kanata are moving. Home address is probably one of their last concerns. Possible conflict of interests, on the other hand...

>>27723422
post luna #25 anon

Kanata was always just a Coco's friend/roommate

>>27728562
A lot of them moved after she was fired.