/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I hope if they implement a way to end a run without losing progress they don't call it "graduate" cause it'll give me the worst vibes.

Any holos made it past 26 minutes yet?

I'm manually collecting all versions of the game https://mega.nz/folder/FRo20K4Q#WkP0LleWhyM10Tft3yrBZA Remember to scan files from anons or just download from the official source. Also, version 0.3.1656473087 deleted my saves.

PATCH NOTES

Version 0.3.1656473087
>Reworked Calli's Scythe Swing's attack animation and damage values. Also added KO chance on level 7.
>Reworked Calli's Death skill.
>Reduced Calli's special attack cooldown.
>Boosted damage of Kiara's Phoenix Fire special.
>Reduced the attack of Mumei's feathers at level 7 slightly.
>Mumei's History defeat requirement has been lowered.
>Added more input delay when leveling up to reduce the possibility to accidentally choosing an option too quickly.

Version 0.3.1656491913
>Bringing Calli back down just a little.
>Fixed strafing locked after leveling or menus
>Other bug fixes
>Trying not to spam so many builds but there were some really important fixes. Sorry! Hopefully this is the last one for a while.

>>27115265
Actual previous thread
>>27101078

>>27114865
Survive at least 30 seconds past 30:00 with Kiara.

>>27115351
>version 0.3.1656473087 deleted my saves.
works on my machine
also thanks for archiving old builds

>he fixed the strafing lock
fuck i used that so i can just hold the arrows in one directiom

https://youtu.be/zBhbH-H4I4o
Shion is still streaming btw

>>27115432
he should add a "Toggle strafe" option where you can just tap the strafe button and it'll keep it in the same direction instead of having to hold it down
Or just turn it into a twinstick shooter

>>27115511
>Or just turn it into a twinstick shooter
This.

why can't wasd be for movement and arrows keys for aiming

>>27114646
>survives yagoos
>ina
>gura
>doesn't survive yagoos
>rest
How you gunna do Irys like that? She can at least survive to some extent into the Yagoos.

Yatagarasu btfo'd. It really is retarded looking

Has anybody tried the new Calli? People are saying she is now too strong.

>>27115632
this but also arrow keys for menus

>>27115351
Oh thanks! Being saving all of them too since they barely consume any space, they should add this to the OP post. Didn't have a problem with the saves but maybe it was because I been alternating games on two different versions.

>>27114858
From what I remember, dude only had Kiara and Calli updates before finishing development, then had a meltdown on Twitter, later admitted "I was wrong, sorry" and then disappeared from the internet (?)

>>27115680
ok post 60 minute run with irys

>>27115714
he's still around but he's having financial issues so he's stopped working on small ame, you know, despite the fact that he could've set up a paypal donation link on his itch.io without issue

>>27115700
still garbo

>>27115762
mori is not yagoo-capable

I got filtered by shield deadbeats.
I gave up, whos the easiest to use? Do I need to unlock the perks in the shop to comfortably clear the stage?

>>27115899
nope

>>27115915
Shop perks help but to beat the stage anyone works really, just work on getting your collabs and get headphones and horns for healing and survival.

>>27115761
Never going to understand that mindset. Like, dude, you put together courage and managed to do something amazing that many people love, and yet you refuse to take any advantage out of it, even if you need it.

Really hoping here that Kay Yu doesn't burn himself on this, he doesn't owe the fanbase anything.

What tracks do you want? For me, it's ALiCE&u.

>>27115915
>filtered by shieldbeats
Just go through the gaps.

>>27115991
>yet you refuse to take any advantage out of it, even if you need it.
Taking advantage of it means possibly stepping on cover's toes, though I don't think taking donations in general should be an issue.

>>27115915
>whos the easiest to use?
Mumei easily, max out starting weapon and max out friend first, then get horns and collab weapon in no particular order.

>>27115915
JUST WALK OUT

>>27115915
>>27116056
Mumei's special also helps with the shieldbeat problem.

>>27115991
don't worry, every holo will jump to the next fotm game when sunbreak releases tomorrow

>>27116173
Mori's Death bombs chain off those swarm types really well, too.

>>27116045
Glad Cover updated their perms some weeks ago, apparently you can now even get revenue from clips on Youtube and they see no problem. That would also mean that as long as one doesn't outright rip off Cover IP like straight up using their music instead of remixes, you should be ok asking donations.

As for the smol ame dev, he could have just changed the music to remixes... though maybe at this point is too late for that. guess you are right.

>>27116056
Sana if you focus on AOE weapons and effects with a side of increasing crits can melt mobs. THe only problem I have with her is with the exception of Fubuzilla and Smol Ame her knockbacks end up pushing bosses way outside your range so you have to actively hunt them down.

Nijicure

mumei will be my oshi from now on

>>27116415
Curing /vt/ of Nijis...

>>27116487
no she won't

Make mumei yagoo-viable dev

>the reaper and the explorer are the best farming characters
kino

>>27116609
no :)

>>27116609
no

>>27115680
only one person i've seen hasn't instantly died to yagoo with irys, and he only made it to 33 minutes so it's lucky rng at best

>>27115915
Ame + level her skills and weapon
BL + Axe
Glasses, pillow, horns
You cant lose

>>27117086
>You cant lose
ok post 60 minute run then

FAUNA GOES UUUUUUUUUU

>>27115700
Definitely not too strong imo, but she isn't complete ass now. Most importantly, she doesn't FEEL bad to play with that stupid dead zone in front of her.

>>27115762
well anyone without bs dodge passive would be shit

Does Haste help with skill like Spider Cooking, BL Love, Dragon Breath, etc?

>>27116819
Here's my ongoing run with Iyrs. And for what it's worth, this is the current patch, she's only G rank 3 or 4, and I have maybe half the shop upgrades.
>>27115716
>She can at least survive to some extent into the Yagoos.
>Post 60 minute run
Because apparently "some extent" means a full 30 minutes on Yagoo. But I'll be sure to let you know if it gets to 60 minutes,

>>27117196
saplings should be vacuumable

My first time breaking 25 min mark. Do yagoos scale up? Stopped bothering to move after one minute

>>27115761
itch.io download links already provide donation options with $2 being the default I think
You can see this when you download at https://moocow-games.itch.io/smol-ame
Kay Yu just opted out

I just wanna test the new characters but I got 6 Faunas and 3 Kroniis fuck this game

>>27117086
i dont think that they would have glasses unlocked if theyre getting filtered by shield beats
horns definitely
i prefer micomet but bl+axe isnt too shabby either
full meal for extra healing could be useful
though i think a better word of advice is: during those big waves find the gap and walk through them. if you cant find a gap, walk through a single enemy. its better to take the hit from one enemy than to try to break out only to get swarmed anyways.
definitely get the special from the shop asap. why is this a function you have to buy from the shop it should be a default

>>27117268
I love my bragging rights of first time clearing with Calli on the first release of the game without knowing that you had to buy the special before using it, I'm that dumb.

Now serious though, she just sucked at endless, and she can't still do that. The gap in her attacks was a nice skill filter which you could fix with weapons anyway.

>>27117352
apparently everything scales every full minute

>>27117193
Pretty obviously talking about stage mode. Read the reply chain before posting next time

>>27117552
only shitters play stage, you literally can't lose in that mode

I feel dumb for asking but how does Mumei help with money farm exactly?
I had a few runs with her but she plays normal. I don't know if I should go for certain mumei only abilities or something like that.

Is rolling IRyS on the gacha particularly rare or something cause fuck. She's the only character I've yet to unlock and I just keep rolling everybody else.

I captured the last 3 hours gameplay, but forgot to take a screenshot.

>>27117379
Took me 35 rolls to fill out Council

>>27117589
To farm gold efficiently, you choose minimal weapon and passive upgrades.

>>27117379
https://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20622&sid=30eae1c7a3dd66550c4109e177fbd8df&start=15
alternatively
https://www.saveeditonline.com/
first find your save in your c drive users/your name here/appdata/local/holocure
back up your save.dat file
then drop your save file into the editor
find the character you want. if it says 0.0 change the first zero to 1
after your done save it and replace your save file
you should have the character unlocked
unless you fucked up youll get an error message.
this is why you should always back up your save file

>>27117621
no, you have a 1/6 chance to roll any given council+irys, you are just unlucky

>>27117344
Tbqh i want more salpings than vacuumable saplings.
The yagoos wave drops so few saplings so i couldn't always keep the healing chain

>>27117589
The summed up run down is:

Max the Feathers
Get and max the Suppa Chatto Time Item for more coins
Use the special only every time the big waves spawn (Shieldbeats, etc)
Grab only shit that will keep enemies at bay like the BL book. Don't collab them.
Try to get as many coins drops and Coin choices from level ups.
Max the magnet and Coin on the shop

>>27117621
it took me 25k to unlock kronii after i got everyone else
stay strong irystocrat.
or use cheat engine.

Does haste also affect skill cooldowns?

>>27117775
Thank you.
Why no collabs though?

>>27117902
yep

>>27117590
I already owned you. Go back to /jp/.

>>27118013
casuals don't own anything

>>27117621
>>27117830
Just savescum
It took me like 20+ save backup/restores to get Fauna and that was after getting multiple copies of every council member + 1 Irys

>>27117961
Weapons cooldowns yes, but I don't think it effects skill or item cooldowns.

>>27118091
special cooldown probably not
but it does affect passive cooldowns

>>27117925
The idea is that you fill out weapon slots so the list stops updating new weapons and you get more chances to get Coins from the list, or that's how someone else explained it to me, because truth be told, I never really found that correlation on my games.

Also this may be helpful for a better rundown: https://files.catbox.moe/4wlxio.mp4

Would endless horizontal/vertical levels like Stage 2 and Stage 4 of VS work in Holocure?

>>27118205
I don't see why they couldn't

>>27117589
As long as u rush lv7 feather, she can wipe anything up to 13min nearly instantly.
This gives u a lot of time to try and roll high superchat item level or specific collab items.
The extreme flexibility of mumei lv7 feather makes her really good for 20min stage

What exactly makes Gura and Ina be able to survive past the 30 minute mark?

>>27117285
>>27117285
>>27117285
please respond!

>>27118401
yes

>>27118361
Gura is the Chibi skill

>>27118156
It's not weapon slots that matter, it's the items/second row.

>>27116819
>>27115716
Unlucky few levels, but still almost 50 minutes.
https://files.catbox.moe/5xv52g.PNG
Iyrs is only G Rank 2. With G Rank 20 and more upgrades, 60 minutes is feasible

>>27118482
tf are those weapons

>>27118482
Nice job, guess we have our third Yagoo Viable holo

>>27118482
post stats

>>27118460
Would you believe me if I told I've never gotten a Coin drop from the level up list?

RNG gonna RNG I guess.

That and, I still don't have Mooms somehow. Seriously considering cheating now.

>>27118510
Collabs are overrated. Haachama cooking is the only one worthwhile since it has overlapping zones of damage. You are better off with only 1, maybe 2 collabs, because that's 21-14 levels worth of stats you'd get instead, which will go way further towards keeping you alive.

>>27118401
no

>>27118647
You have to max out your items first, then coins will appear as an option

>>27118647
To get coins u have to fill up the entire bottom row which is too RNG to rely on in a 20min run. Its good if it happens and u can try to aim for it. But its not a reliable farming strategy.

>>27117589
The best way to gold farm is to grab +100 coins every time you level up.
Coins only appear when your item slots are close to maxed. So you don't want to spend levels on a bunch of weapons.
Mumei's feather can solo the game up to 13m or so and you only need one other weapon or collab to get to 20m. Her Civilization passive is all you need for damage bonus. And Friend means collecting exp is extremely low effort, you can even stand still like 80% of the time.
Everyone else is missing at least one or more things from this kit.

>>27118723
desu, I think Cutting Board and BL Love is best for the knockback if you don't collab them

>>27118723
Do we have a reasonable comparison of dps between the collabs?

Tasukete

>>27118873
Bombs are also really good to keep stuff away and kill anything that comes too close.

>>27118723
That's nonsense. The more collabs the better. You need the damage.

>>27118916
This is your life now.

>>27118401
Pretty sure that it does

>>27118873
I would have preferred Cutting Board over BL but RNG is gunna RNG.

>>27118723
kinda sad that this is the truth, i guess what i hope for is more or longer stages with more interesting bosses. but i guess the whole point of the game is that you either trivialize what's coming at you or you die to it

>>27118916
you're not getting that money ever haha

>>27118956
HP is better than damage to outheal the Yagoo swarm.

>>27118795
>>27118833
>Having the sudden realization that in over 100+ games I've never either filled or maxed the items row.

Well, I'm dumb.

>>27119028
You need damage to proc horns.

>>27118890
I wish
top 2 seem to be board and micomet though

>>27119068
And yet 60 minute Irys exists with only 1 collab.

>>27119159
She also exists with 4 collabs.

>>27115306

>end stream button

>>27118916
The coin per min is very comparable to the 20min stage mode.

>>27119159
where's the proof

>>27118916
i think you can use cheat engine to kill yourself
>picrel
can you get strong enough to kill yagoos fast enough that the screen is clear for a millisecond
best i got was using inas ult and being able to see her sprite for 5 seconds.

>>27119231
I know, this was an accident.

>>27119249
shit nigga why are you upgrading crit over 100%

>>27118956
You need HP more, because the barrier for entry into Yagoo territory is less about "can you kill them" and more about "Can you survive the hits until you kill them." This goes double for Iyrs, since her Hope and Half-Angel skills don't require you to kill anyone to heal. And again, going for more collabs meanings spending valuable level ups that could be used to boost HP and %Atk. I don't have base numbers for all the weapons to do the actual math, but I can say that sticking to 1 collab item has gotten me into Yagoo territory much more reliably than trying to fit in multiple collabs. Maybe it will matter in the several-hour range, but definitely not in the first hour or two.

>>27119287
What about second crit

>>27119287
cause why the fuck not. it was either that or eat a burger.

>>27119312
you either crit or you don't, there's no double rolls

>>27119000
I agree, i'd enjoy seeing some DPS check bosses or something that requires you to actually balance your build. Unfortunately for now it's very much a defensive game.

>>27119287
so you can take gorilla grip duh

>>27119333

>>27119331
>it was either that or eat a burger.
or coins or some actually useful stat
dimwit
>>27119359
going over 100 even with gorilla is useless

>>27119302
How fast you kill them is how fast you heal due to horns. It's the difference between getting to stand still and still winning and having to run around the entire game trying to proc knockback on enemies that barely care and get right back into your face in less than a second since they're fast as shit.

>>27119418
Post your 60 minute Irys run

>>27119415
i actually did go for coins after running out of money trying to get all of my weapons to +10.
im surprised you can go past +10 but the chance to upgrade past that seems to stay at 10%
but yeah i picked crit because why not. it makes zero sense to have it over 100 but at this point it really did not matter what i picked.

>>27119418
Sure, but my death wasn't due to a lack of healing, it was because I got unlucky with HP stat ups and didn't have enough HP to survive a stack-out. Healing isn't the issue, and at no point did I take a hit that I didn't recover from almost immediately (And I was standing still from minute 30). The damage I had was enough to heal through anything but a 100-0, which is unfortunately what happened.

>>27119613
What was your total HP?

>>27119613
I hadn't been taking piki due to the cooldown on half angel making it feel irrelevant, with just natural leveling progression it's proccing as fast as it can, might try it though

Is Mumei a cute girl?

>>27119682
~1650, not sure the specific number.
>>27119762
It might not be necessary, though i'm not sure what to replace it with. Dakimakura is flat shielding so becomes irrelevant that late. Maybe Milk to increase weapon range, but not sure how much it would help.

Cutting board should fire an extra one to the front on flatties

Fuck I forgot to kill bosses

>Bringing Calli back down just a little.
How nerfed was she?

If you nerf Mumei, I will nuke

>>27120128
nuke what?

>>27117333
>>27118482
>>27118723
Very interesting, going from 4 collabs to 3 collabs helped my irys runs a lot, but I didnt try only one collab yet. Nice

>>27120170
I will nuke

>>27120226
nuke what?

>>27119953
my usual go tos if I don't get good shop rng early on are syringe and eyepatch, the increased eyepatch damage may be too high of a tradeoff in yagoo phase though

Just did a 28 min run with Fauna and only got one collab anvil while I had 4 mergeable weapons...

>>27120067
Doing a run at the moment, you can not longer spam chain explosions with the passive like before, think instead of 10 now you get like 4 in a row.

>>27120355
I've noticed that if you get 2 collab sets to max before the first golden anvil drops, you often won't get a second. Seems like there is some check if you are eligible for collabs that enables the golden anvil drop, but it only triggers once. So yeah, might have been your issue.

Hey guys, I'm new to this game. Anyone have any tips on farming fast coins?

>>27120727
Unlock Mumei, play stage or endless using her

>>27120727
refer to this chain >>27117589

managed to get to YAGOO without the holy trio. Still needed Choco's horn though.

>>27120797
Here's the stat. Bae is at 20 and shop is maxed out

>>27120797
You can get to yagoo with most characters

>>27119371
>Bae has second crits
>Bae is short
>Bae is a Hobbit

>>27120797
>>27120828
no one cares about 30 minute runs

>>27120900
I meant the plushies, horn, and headphone combo

I just played stage mode with Mumei where I had all my slots filled but didnt get any Holocoin choices on level up? Did I do something wrong?

>>27115265
Is Kanata's paw good or bad? Specifically on Gura.
Does crit only works with normal attacks, or can any damage crit?

>>27120978
were all the items leveled?

>>27120978
You need to max items. That's why you choose items with low max level (1/3/not 5) like full meal and the likes.

>>27120710
Well, that's just bullshit, I should get fixed.

>>27121084
it's just a game anon, no need to do that to yourself over it

>>27121084
you seriously gonna get a vasectomy because of that?

which collab weapon has the highest DPS?

>>27121263
micomet

>>27121084
Fuck (Me) LMAO

>>27121018
Any weapon can crit, and crit is the biggest damage multiplier available. It's not a huge deal for stage clearing, but you'd be much better off without it for endurance.

>>27121282
Damage maybe, not dps. It having one meteor at a time makes it fall behind things like Flattening Board and especially Elite Cooking

How to pass the pre-20min filter without BL?

>>27121465
thanks bro

Do headphones and short passive on gura stack? How does that work? If one fails to trigger, can the other one block that damage if it procs?

>>27121619
git gud

>>27121838
Yes, they stack. I believe headphones takes precedence, then chibi ( also the case for Fauna's Whispers)

NEED MORE SAPLINGS

So when you get dupes, how much does it add to one character?
And how many you need to max stats level up a character?

>>27122002
nigga the game tells you this

Alright so beating the stage with Mumei with no collabs is definitely doable but the payoff isn't that good.
Though to be fair I had shit luck and didn't get the superchat until minute 18

>>27121907
Thanks, anon
Doesn't that kinda suck? I'm getting a lot of mileage out of the movespeed boost

This was a pretty good run.
Gura is fast.

>>27115335
Mumei almost made it to minute 27 on her very first run.

What is the best weapon collab for Gura?

>>27122104
That's just a very lucky run with multiple triple boxes

Ol' Dex is putting out multiple HoloCure videos a day
Good on him to find another cash cow.

Anybody using an auto-clicker to afk yagoos? I wanna leave the game running while I go to sleep so I can buy all the powerups in the store.

>>27122416
get a life

>>27122416
nigga just cheat engine at that point, use a speedhack or something

>>27122104
Why do so many of the streamers pick Ame?
I find her probably the worst.

>>27122503
she's first in the roster

what if markiplier or other e celeb plays this?

>>27115915
>>27116173
>they have troubles with the shieldbeats
RORU RUMAO

>>27122596
fuck no

>>27122596
If you count them, Sodapoppin and AdmiralBahroo have already played the game.

>>27122104
Is smol ame in endless? ive just been grinding coins non stop since i downloaded the game

>>27118979
Fuck you, know your place.

>>27122787
She appears as usual at minute 20, the game just continues after killing her in Endless mode.

>>27122596
Northernlion has brought it up a few times on his stream but I think there may be too much weeb shit for him to try it.
Him playing it would be kinda funny and based

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0vIAo8kAuI

>>27122969
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>27122969
Who's not OP in this game? Kiara?

>>27123125
Mori pre-buff

>>27122503
She's the default selection when you hit play, and she's the protagonist, and she's pretty and cool.

How in the world does someone get past 30 minutes.

>>27117086
Ame is good but she has a rough start and isn't free to build like Gura/Ina/Mumei/Mori. She actually requires good movement, dodging, straffing, and a functioning brain which most players looking for an easy option don't possess.

>>27122969
UUUU

>>27123275
Play Gura, Ina, and possibly Irys

>>27122969
i hope theres 2 fauna streams today to make up for yesterday

>>27123125
all character who are not Yagoo viable

Is it asking too much to want your Mumei to put on her glasses?
I just keep getting shit rolls on level up and need the coins to buy the rerolls to reroll for the glasses to get the coins to buy the rerolls etc.

>>27123327
what happened yesterday?

>>27123374
she cancelled her stream an hour before it started. she said it was because she wanted to wtch the myth collabs.

>>27123374
Cancelled for the EN offcollab.

Why do people keep saying Kay Yu is wealthy? They worked on a couple big anime and game projects but that doesn’t mean they earned any of the profits, just collected a wage.

When more and more holos get added the gacha rates are gonna be painful

>>27122969
Fauna is on the lower half of the game's roster imo. Saplings severely overrate her in the same way deadbeats severely underrated Mori to the point where she was updated to be braindead easy to use.

>>27123275
Pick Fana

Finally made it past 30 minutes. With calli of all people. Guh

>>27123522
>When more and more holos get added the gacha rates are gonna be painful
If they keep doing banners then none of them are going to be worse than Council's 6 person pool.
Now the random level up pool of items, that could get bloated if more items get added to the game. Hopefully if we get more shit the devs introduce some mitigating feature to help out.

>>27123503
And that wage is $170,000/year

>>27123522
They're sepparated by gens/groups so it's fine.
Also are they really planning on adding all the hololive lasses? Trying to come up with a unique moveset for everyone sounds like hell.

>>27123527
Calli wasn't underrated. She was just rated.
Her scythe sucked no matter how much you cry >skill issue and the parts of her kit relying on it were essentially deadweight as a result.

>>27123650
>Hopefully if we get more shit the devs introduce some mitigating feature to help out.
They could let us have more rerolls for cheaper.

Stage Tier List, rated by ease of use

>S Tier
Mumei
Mori

>A Tier
Ina
Gura
Baelz

>B Tier
Sana
Ame
Kronii

>C Tier
Fauna
IRyS

>D Tier
Kiara

Is Fauna yagoo viable?

>>27122969
She won't even roll herself

>>27123971
people were posting 50 minute runs.

>>27119953
noel milk looks viable, I just got unlucky with a lack of heal procs, these were my stats going into the yagoo wave, think I had an extra 4 heals by the time I died

>>27122416
If you can't die you can't get your coins

This is as far as I can go with the rrat. I hate how you either have broken healing or you can't beat those fuckers

Does injection-type asacock stop draining your HP after you reach 1 and heal up, or does it keep going? Does it only buff you when you have 1 hp, or is it a permanent bonus?

>>27123818
Sana is at least an A for ease of use. She just needs Orbit and Gravity pumped up first and she can pretty much just cruise unless you're braindead picking up the later stuff.

>>27115351
You're doing a service by keeping these backups. Godspeed anon and well done.

>>27124098
It's shit, don't use it

jesas do a gura tutorial about getting past 30m already

>>27124225
There is no reward for defying Yagoo other than personal satisfaction.

sooo...what if you're unkillable in endless
is there a way to still get the coins or do you just quit and cry?

>>27124389
you can try moving away to thin out your AOEs

>>27123971
>>27121972

>>27123522
The gacha thankfully splits up the generations, Myth is separated from Council.
Having their extra, Council's 6 is the biggest generation of Hololive, and probably the hardest gacha. Gamers will be a gacha of just four options, Gen 0 five options.
Gen 1 should only be four new characters, but Fubuki could have a duplicate selection, and if Kay wants to pointlessly dramabait to represent fanbases that never really existed like Aloe, then Chris would basically be on that same level.

>>27124562
ID could be in a similar position if he decided to join ID gens 1 and 2, but there's not much reason to do that aside from preventing 3 character pools from existing and being too easy to fish from.

What the fuck? I just used Mumei's super and it killed Fubukizilla. How the fuck did that happen? I thought it was only allowed to kill normal enemies?

>>27124389
cheat engine, get your HP value, kill yourself

>>27124389
Take coins on level up for a while, while the Yagoos scale up.
And try your special. >>27018588

>>27123522
Different banners
And If I were Kai, I would release new maps with the new holos and use a different currency for that banner

I really like the game and I know it's an early development version but man the game needs a balance patch or two. I think I've beaten the stage mode with half the cast and made it to yagoos so I don't think its entirely a skill issue but the game feels like a slog compared to VS at all stages of shop and game progression. making a couple items feel almost mandatory for most characters and having a most of non holospecific/non collab weapons feel like shit to use is pretty lame. maybe having a 5th slot on level up so you can actually roll items more consistently or increasing pick up range by like 50% would be nice.

https://www.twitch.tv/ironmouse
Nyanners playing Holocure.

Comets or infinite BL?

I need the updated "yagoo viable" list

>Two anvils one after the other in less than 5 seconds
>While playing Bae
Oh yeah baby... this is the run

>>27124781
>Nyanners playing Holocure

>>27125395
What's the problem?

How is it even possible to reach this without Gura's passive?

>>27125479
It's possible with any character to reach 30m~. Gura passive takes you beyond.

>>27125455
nothing. keep being yourself haaton

>>27122596
The only one with a remote chance is Game Theory as he’s the only one who has acknowledged Hololive exists. Others will only pick it up if it goes viral outside the vtuber bubble, which it won’t in the demo phase

>go to sleep
>close eyes
>see all the flickering colorful shit from the game in mind's eye
What do?

>>27125479
Easily. You take health every time it's offered and just stack the good defensive passives.

I'm going to try 1 collab and pump HP numbers, which collab is the best against yagoos?

>>27125641
>game theory acknowledged hololive exists
wtf, how is hololive relevant to whatever he does nowadays? what was the context?

>>27125748
don't tell me he did hololive error theory

>>27124781
>links ironmouse

Done with Myth too, got really unlucky for my final 3 Amelia pulls.

>>27126063
Leave them alone!!!

Do you kill more things if you stand still?

Man, fuck KFP employees.

>>27126469
>run up to them to try and kill them
>one of my weapons knocks them all away
no...my xp...

>>27126611
>Chickens come from behind
>Cutting Board comes out and denies my EXP

>>27126063
Why stop at 30

>>27126690
I stopped at 21, not 30. 21 is the cap for stat boosts (20 dupes for +20 HP, +20% ATK/SPD)

>>27125654
Take meds

>>27126900
Why stop at 30

Is Sake like... totally shit? after 25 there is no way you'll be undamaged for more than 4 seconds

>>27127380
Yea it's not good for endless.

Of course she'd pick Gura first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0vIAo8kAuI

>>27127380
Yeah its shit

If I don't get Miasma on level one it's not worth continuing the run is it?

Vote! Who are the most annoying enemies?

http://poal.me/gcqvxp
8xww0

How do I make it past the last 2 minutes?

>>27128001
Kronies easily, they give way to little xp for how tanky they are and how early they appear

>>27128036
invest in health

What would Nodoka's note do if it was an item in the game?

>>27128426
Revive

>>27127860
Only thing worth ending a run over is no glasses. I'm usually fine if i get them by 3-4 minutes, but others want them earlier. any weapons early (or not) are fine

>>27128036
See >>27128156
Also ditch the dakimakura for Full Meal, daki sucks late because it's a flat pool of extra health

FAUNA IS A LUCKERDOG

fauna what the fuck

Streamer (lol) luck

I can taste the salt of a certain warden from here.

>>27128036
>No pushback
glaring flaw

Whats better, Micomet or Infinite BL?
Does it depend on the character (like some character want enemies closer to them so BL would be worse) or is one just strictly better?

damn bros sana isn't really shit, but very boring to play
she scales slowly, but because of her two fucking skills that push enemies away, they never even come near you
it's so hard to actually pursue and damage enemies because she keeps pushing them back, which also means they die farther away, but they don't die fast because of her ASS CUM damage, and you keep fucking pushing them back, and with her abysmal fucking movement speed it's so annoying to pick EXP
also, her fucking ult pushes enemies EVEN FARTHER BACK and you never need to use it because you never fucking die
It would've been easier if I got noel milk, also got very unlucky with collabs, getting first one at like 12 minutes

>Gura
>Ina
>Mori
>Mumei
YOU
DIDN'T
BEAT
THE
GAME

>>27129381
define "beat the game"

>>27129341
my shit run probably had something to do with the fact that I didn't know she pushes shit back so much, so I went in full melee
my FUCKING gay faggot sex books and haachama cuisine didn't do shit 80% of the game

>>27129381
Getting to minute 30 on all characters is already really easy anyway.

>>27129381
bad anon, stop making up criteria to gatekeep with

Fauna's game seems to lag very early

Weird

>>27129381
>Choco's horn
>Earphone
>Plushies
>Full Meal

>>27115511
>Or just turn it into a twinstick shooter
I keep wanting to play it like Isaac

>>27129333
I would say for bae mikomet is a no brainer

>shop upgrades
>buying special
>not hardcore
>playing when you aren't deliriously tired
>paying your power and internet bills
YOU DIDN'T BEAT THE GAME

I hope the next update adds modifier to make the stage harder. As of right now, everyone can get to 30m with the same build and only a few and survive YAGOO (also with the same build).

>>27129381
>stage mode
you didn't beat the game

she forgor :)

>>27129632
>playing when you aren't deliriously tired
Last night I did a stage run with Kiara where I blacked out every couple of seconds. I don't know how I was able to keep Dancer up for so long.

>>27129741
>everyone can get to 30m
Speak for yourself. I haven't broken minute 29 yet because I'm a shitter.

>>27129741
the heat system hades has is pretty good

>>27129746
eventually they have to outscale you right?

>>27129894
haha yeah right?...

I think they should rework a few of the awakened starting weapons
Like, You have Mumei that gains homing feathers, Kiara and Mori gain a super version of their attack, or Ame and Kronii which while small, still gain something new.
Then you have Gura or Bae that only get an extra attack or an extra dice, without anything else

>>27125820
>>27125748
He just did a mention of Korone when she had the Fire on Water meme as far as I know.

>>27122596
Pat and Woolie acknowledged in their podcast

Fauna...

>>27129992
>Bae
>With her damage output
>Gura
>One of the few who can get past yagoo
No lol, other holo need buff like kiara

>>27130330
At least give them a special effect or something, like they are now, they are just boring.
Also Gura getting past Yagoo is totally unrelated to her trident

>New wave of characters comes out
>Holomem complains about her character being too weak, maybe even crying
>Dev buffs the character out of guilt

You think this will happen?

>Can only have 4 collab weapons
>You have 5 slots
This is frustrating to my autistic mind. I hope they make a mechanic to do something with your 5th weapon slot.

Fave collab weapons?

>>27130461
even if any holomems were that menhera I don't think the devs would make characters that obviously underpowered in the first place

>>27130461
Nah, all of them are pretty reserved/scared in that sense. Can you actually imagine any of them doing that?

I do for a bunch though, but mostly out of dumbassery like Calli not realizing what are they doing, or doing a dumb joke that the fans will take to the extreme

Kamikaze SSRB that explode when they touch you when?
>>27130461
Holos are either too casual to give a shit about that or too tryhard to know that no everyone can be S tier and they will either try to make themselves work or go back to the meta character

What items have a low max level so I can farm gold as fast as possible?

>>27130636
I'm not sure I'll be able to keep playing after the Gen 5 update, Yukimins are too cute to kill

>>27130461
>>27130549
There is one holo who is *that* menhera...

>>27130461
No, Holomems crying is really hot. Dev might even nerf her after that.

>>27130210
>Pat and Woolie
Gross

What weapons or skills does Knightly Milk help with?

>>27131186
all of them

>>27130742
Money farming guide
Prioritize the shop upgrades at the top. Everything else will aid you.
>Max Money Gain
>Max EXP Gain
>Max Rerolls
>Max Pickup
>Max Attack
>Max Crits
>Max Haste

Play on Stage Mode
[Any Class] Get any weapon to level 7. Collab that.
>Ideal collab Flattening Board (Cutting board + Holobombs)
No other weapons or skills are necessary if you get Flattening Board.
[Mumei] Max Primary. Use Ult to clear waves of enemies.

Prioritize these items and level them up so you can trigger the appearance of +100 Holocoins when you level up.
Max Level 5 items (Get these)
>Supachat
>Otaku Glasses
Max Level 1 (this too)
>Full Meal
Max Level 3 items (Get any of these)
>Nurse Horn
>Sake
>Noel Milk
>Face Mask
>Plushie
>Gorilla's Paw
>Piki Piki Piman

>>27130423
>Give a special effect or something
Anon.... it already have a built in special effect

>>27130523
A full loadout including a solo weapon helps avoid the solo weapons becoming completely overshadowed by their potential as collabs. So I like that as is.

>>27131381
What I'm saying is that some awakened states are boring in comparison to others, and you just prove my point by showing how the only unique thing about Bae's attack is part of the normal state

>>27131231
>Inan
>Flatboardan
>moneymakan

reminder
Weapon Haste is attack frequency, not projectile speed
Proofs: play Sana, wait for an astrology buff to Weapon Haste, you'll notice

anyone else in this thread want to fuck fubuzilla

>>27132065
The awakened third die is a fairly big help, filling in the dead center.

I just started the game and about collabs, should I be upgrading the solo weapons that make the collab or leave them low level until the gold anvil appears?

>>27133010
the gold anvil won't show up until both are level 7

>>27133049
oh ok, thank you

If I want to farm money, I should play on story mode rather than endless, right?

>>27132065
It's not the only unique thing since it can knock back too you're just a retarded zoomzoom who want
>le flashy effect for muh dopamine
And you proved by comparing it to kiara weapon

>>27133139
Stage is much more efficient for gold farming since it has bonus gold on completion.

>>27132611
uh no? you're weird

>>27133139
yes, also stockpile gold until you have 5k so you unlock super chatto time then dump it into the gold upgrade

do the yagoos even scale? i made it to minute 31 and felt like i proved my point so i've just been picking coins on level up but ina's just chilling

>>27132065
Some fancy effect like the dice exploding when you roll all 6s would be kind of neat.

>>27130461
>that fucking filename
uuhhhhh
BASED

>>27133833
They scale very slowly per minute, but you might be stuck for the next 5 hours.

>>27133833
Yes. +20% ATK and HP per minute

>>27130461
Seeing as how they can barely get past shieldbeats with any character, I don't think they'll notice

my hands are cramping but I want to play more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPg2Jf2kCI4

>>27130549
>>27134201

>>27135298
WATCH HOLOCURE STREAMS EVERYDAY
PLAY HOLOCURE EVERYDAY

>>27135257
Get used to a right hand only setup of binds, and a left hand only setup, and rotate.

>>27135402
I probably could. I already use controller

>>27135257
I haven't been having problems since I've only been gold farming. Most of the time I'm not even touching my keyboard and just watching streams.

>>27135298
>be me
>wake up
>open up a HoloCure stream
>stream ends
>open up another HoloCure stream
>stream ends
>repeat for x amount of hours
>eat, shit, work while watching HoloCure
>open last HoloCure stream
>go to bed, dream about HoloCure
>wake up, do it all again
I fucking love HoloCure.

>70 levels without nurse's horns
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>27133833
please...ina...just rest...

>>27127380
Sake is great for normal runs because it only takes 3 levels to max.

>>27128036
Get Coco collab, move on a line, use special and turn back to collect all, then just repeat