/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>laughs in whore

black company

>>26665272
Kiara: "Cover, can i have a 3D debut?"
Cover: "We can't help you, just go to Ame lol"
Ame: "..."

>>26665272
Because they're still making hundreds of thousands of dollars and would be in for a very tough slog trying to transition to an indie and keep even a fraction of their earning potential.

>>26665272
It's probably more like 35% but yeah basically making them do it themselves then taking a cut for doing nothing

>>26665272
Because they'd have none of the fame or money if they had tried to start out as indies. Like all clout chasing monkeybar whores know. You think theyd deal with a cut to profit because they just wanted to join hololive to make friends with unknown genmates?

Black Company
At least in Niji you will be appreciated if you perform well

>>26665272
Kiara would be a complete nobody without Hololives brand power

>>26665272
Kiara doesn't love you

>>26665437
Look man, they lend them a phone that will be outdated as fuck by the time they need to return it, what more do you want?

>>26665272
>TL
Kanauru needs more time to finish the stream.

>>26665439
Gura, Calli, and Irys would all make just as much money or more as indies. Calli is the only smart one though. She's absolutely using cover to her advantage and correctly just sees them as a stepping stone

Side branch always get the short end of the stick

>>26665272
>my concert

>>26665657
NijiEN performs just as well as main branch. Sorry HoloEN got shitted on, I suppose.
>>26665637
>Gura
Sure.
>Calli
We literally have proof of this one way or another.
>Irys
Not really.

>>26665451
Yeah, like those Obsydia new outfits should be coming any time soon!

>>26665745
Yeah, it's her concert

>>26665473
she can be a wrestlers

>>26665657
>side branch
Myth was singlehandedly responsible for Vtubers' success in the west, and would still dominate the market if Cover didn't do sweet fuckall while actively hampering EN talents and working against anything they tried to do themselves until they more or less all gave up.
Oh, wait, I forgot about Coco, too. Cover treated her really well, that's why her roommate is selling her body on Twitch now.

Literally that stupid "we've got 3D at home" twitter meme.

>>26665272
Based, ENsharts get the rope

>>26665772
Crazy how can she say "my concert" when it's her concert

>>26665772
it's Cover's Takanashi Kiara concert

>>26665272
I wonder if the whole meetup was kiara's idea so she could have her concert

>>26665272
enfags are bunch of whiny bitch. what else is new?

>>26665637
None of them would. Even Kson isn't and she was probably the most prepared out of anyone to make the transition.

>>26665820
*YAWNS*

>>26665872
she is manipulative girl, so yeah

>>26665272
Donate more money KFP

>>26665759
>Blaming company
>Pretending the artist wasn't MIA til 3 weeks ago.

>>26665637
Doesn't Mumei's PL account still have more subscribers than her current one? Not that subscribers = income or anything like that

>>26665549
They're relying too much on this one guy
Kanauru worked 30 hours straight with no sleep for Gura's live; what is he supposed to do, do that again so it can fit within the deadline of Kiara still being at Ame's place?
They really need another guy who can do this kind of stuff

>>26665750
>NijiEN performs just as well as main branch. Sorry HoloEN got shitted on, I suppose.
I can see that, given how much protection do they give to their livers when they're harrassed by their main source of income because of them interacting to one of the opposite gender.

>>26665981
Cope Holofag

Please, understand. Yagoo is using 90% of Cover's revenue for the Holoststars branch. Have you seen their shit? That costs money

>>26665451
Let's be honest, english management in both companies exists to get permissions, and that's about it.

>>26665637
Don't make me laugh like that at nearly 3:00AM anon, please!

>>26665393
you wish, they didn't even want to let her go to Ame's to do it at first

>>26665272
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME

>>26665637
Holy shit you are retarded

>>26666025
I bought it, those woman really have to work harder for the homos

>>26665745
She's doing some of her birthday stuff at Ame's while everyone's together. Also mocap in Ame's spare room is cheaper than and of apparently equal quality to that available in Kiara's home.

>>26666025
holoseethe
Izuru 3D > all holoshit

>>26666045
>Be responsible for bringing high six figures of yearly revenue to your employer singlehandedly
>The only person assigned to you (forced because of Japanese law) loses the fax on which your game permissions were

>>26665981
Yeah but it's 9 years old, most of those subs are long dead by now and were never very monetizable since they were subbed for meme videos. There's a reason content creators like that are getting into vtubing, it's a way to actually make money on their skillset.

>>26666095
so she just being usual bitch

>>26665981
Yup. A lot of council are underperformed what they did in PL. Probably why they all seem to hate their job

Ame is HoloEN's CEO at this point. If Kira didn't get deported for evading taxes she would've been the first to 3d debut and you know it.

>>26666045
Well they're clearly dogshit at it, they're so incompetent it sems intentional
Random ass fans can get full written permissions from devs and then publishers faster than Cover can get a response, there's been case where they just said "nah sorry they didn't reply" only for us to learn later that they never tried to reach out in the first place

rangeban SEA

>>26666095
How is Ame okay with this?

>>26666137
Whatever you say, little brown buddy.

So because of Kiara's shitty bday stream, we get to miss out on a bunch of streams from the other girls? God, I fucking hate these whores and their shitty fucking company.

>>26666299
How the fuck would I know? Go ask her yourself, pineapple.

How much shit do we think Gura and Ina are talking behind Kiara's back during this trip?

>>26665272
I'm so glad she airs all this out there so the other 4 girls get to play clean up with their fan base.

>>26665937
that's hot

>>26666299
It won't turn out well.
This anon made a pretty good potential outcome about this:
"I'm going to predict you'll see a more negative relationship between Ame and Kiara in the future. I'm sure Watson is working her hardest and receiving nothing but criticism and smart ass comments from Kiara. Kiara will make some quip about how her birthday could have been better but she had to settle for Ame's work. It won't go over well"

>>26666366
I'm almost willing to bet they set up anonymous snapchats just for that reason.

>>26665937

>>26665637
>calli would make just as much or more as indies
>calli is the only smart one
no one tell him

Reminder that JP Holos get a cut taken from them and Mel had to lawyer up because her manager was harassing her. So that's the standard.

can you niggers change your ip at least if you’re going to talk to yourself

can you niggers change your ip at least if you’re going to talk to yourself

>>26666552
Bootlicker

>>26665451
Laughs in shitty female merch

>>26666543
reminder that that was in the beginning days, it was dealt with, and it has never happened since.
Reminder that you guys have no idea what the cut actually is.

>>26666536
That's spot on Kiara

>>26665272
Why would Cover pay any of that? All EN have to do is sit the fuck down and wait until Japs open their border, instead of being impatient whores

>>26665439
Kson....

Yes, she is

>>26666658
Rushia hinted at having problems with a manager as well. It's never as good as you think

>>26665937
>>26666536
>>26666697
All of this could've been avoided had Ame managed to set several speakers to play A Cruel Angel's Thesis on loop through the whole house to keep her in check.

>>26666770
Kson has become a cheap Taiwanese prostitute

>>26665473

dawg thats nearly all of them. a few were definitely on the upswing though prior to joining

>>26666804
kek

>>26666804
hope she bring her asuka cosplay set

nuking this thread

>>26666770
To be fair if it wasn't for hololive kson would've still remained as a 2view rushing from one con to another showcasing her ass and doing interviews.

Whether or not she hates or hated Cover, it's an indisputable fact they were the reason to her success.

>>26666658
Coco outright stated that Cover's cut of superchat earnings was 50% during one of her meme reviews. Of course that was a couple of years ago and she kind of walked it back later to the 35-40% range, but still.

>>26666974

do they take membership cuts?

>>26666539
Her roommate has been on tour all summer and she has major label music connections now that she can tap even if she left the company. Calli has hustled more than most to get where she is. I mean she got her spot in hololive by stealing it from a friend. She knows none of these bitches are really her friend. Of everyone in EN she most has the tools to continue after holo. Most of her fans have been subtely shifted to her roommate for the last year. She and Kiara are the only EN smart enough to be double dipping like that

>>26666077
say who?

>>26666536
8. She is a woman.

>>26666985
No idea. She was being very vague in her second statement but it seems like whatever Cover's cut is they take less from memberships than superchats and less from personal merch (down to nothing at all, depending on unknown variables) than memberships. And of course the official fan club dues are pretty much all for the talent.

>>26667037
Her friend never had a chance to get in, her garbled bong accent makes Sana sound eloquent. Her only talent is kind of decent signing, she had another shot at Vsinger and failed at that too.

>>26665272
Honestly Kiara has improved in expressing her feelings

Before she would just moan and demand attention in irrational inconsiderate ways

Now shes very structured and reasonable about her feelings and her need for comfort, god bless

Bitch still needy tho

>>26666770
No one here gave a shit about or even knew who who kson was until she became coco and then punished coco. And I'd like to see the jump in subs and supahs she got after quitting hololive and the profit comparison between the two when she was still in it since so many of you seem to think that joining the largest vtubing corpo is done out of pure serendipitous innocence rather than an obvious chance at big bucks. I'll save you some time and tell you that kson would have never even reached a fraction of the way towards being the most superchatted individual in the fucking world if she hadn't been accepted into their ranks.

>>26667037
>now that she can
That was the entire point of the post. That they all monkey-branched their way to hololive to make money that they couldn't have made on their own as an indie. Why are you trying to use post-employed cali connections and money as a measurement for her roommate's success if she had never been accepted in the first place?

>>26667119

cover probably takes bigger cuts than the talents let on but that does stop them from making a shit ton of money overall i guess is the best answer

>>26665272
https://youtu.be/65lSJKzQ9f4?t=5303

>>26666974
Anon, I can assure you she was being facetious and that was before her huge incline. You do understand that its standard practice to put in clauses where you can't talk about these things unless both parties agree or a court orders you? Do you really think Coco was dumb enough to risk her job to say what Cover actually takes or was she just making a stupid joke?

>>26666536
Well shit this is why everyone used to hate Kiara

>>26665272
Yeah, that's what happens when you're in the side branch. If she was part of JP she wouldn't be having any of these troubles.

Cover could be paying for their hotel and travel expenses for all we know.

>>26666853
WOW IT'S LIKE CDAWGVA WAS RIGHT ABOUT HOLOLIVE SIGNAL BOOSTING ALL ALONG! WOW!

>>26667203
>Used to

>>26667303
kek

>>26667042
says Kiara

>>26666468
poor Ame, she only wants to help her friends but you know her friend is 'too good' for her.
I hope Ame would take some days off after this event is over.

>>26667360
>No comeback
Kek

>>26667326
So was he right or did he personally apologize to
every Hololive girl for it?
Cause that one [Friend] of Connor sure can't make up her mind about it.

>>26667303
>for all we know
We actually know they're not paying for any trips, the girls have repeatedly talked about having to cover all of their travel expenses, they probably pay for transportation to conventions, food and lodging for convention days, and that's it.

Should take 98% because they're all literal no bodies without Hololive

>>26667500
Guys, Connor is cool. He personally sucked my cock undertable to apologize.

>>26667172
>cover probably takes bigger cuts than the talents let on
Kek, every cut no matter how small is bigger than what the talents let on anon. 30% is your industry standard.

>>26666468
Kiara? Making quips against Ame? You mean the same Kiara who wanks of everything Ame does and worships the ground she walks on?

>>26667503
Kek

>>26665272
posting member content is absolutely based.

>>26666822

unironically kys bugman

>>26667480
comeback for what? I don’t trust cover in helping EN

You guys who're saying the girls would be nothing without Hololive, therefore they should pay Cover just for the right to be part of it are following a retarded argument.
Cover was built by their streamers. What the fuck else are they famous for? Their shitty parallelogram rig live 2d?

>>26667621
I want to but I can survive without my head, help!

EN branches are full of nepotism and snowball recruitment. The nips possibly did not expect them to be a success so they picked a circle of indies, gave them models and access to the main branches and then allowed them to do most of the work and talent selection. If it wasn't for Myth and Luxiem bringing lots of money, the japanese would not even acknowledge the very existence of EN branches.

>>26667537
Except Gura

>>26667599
threadreaders don't watch streams. they just squat on discord and post from their prepaid phones.

>>26667606
Stop me, I'm not even one of her members.

>>26667199
>Do you really think Coco was dumb enough to risk her job
Yes. That was her entire schtick and why she was eventually cycled out. Coco gave zero fucks and only refused to talk real numbers after that first time, implying that she was being honest enough to require managerial intercession. I'm not sure why you're pretending that Kaichou was the type to follow rules that weren't her own unless explicitly forced to-- up to and including her own termination-- but it's bullshit and everyone here knows it. She's a pretty good streamer but an awful businesswoman.

>>26667629
>>26667503
:)

...feels like all out war

isn't stuff like this out of Covers hands though? when it comes to birthday streams they'll cover dealing with the merch because everyone gets merch, but when it comes to the extras thats more for the girls to individually plan and pay for I believe.

>>26667711
thats turkroaches not bugmen. if youre a turk in china though, you can probably become emperor if you conquer a couple regions

>>26667599
She already made a quip about Ame's "naming choices" for Wellington.
Kiara has a problem with her brain I swear to God.

Hololive brand alone is very valuable, they'd see their audience cut nearly in half if they went indie

>>26665272
>1.6k likes

>>26667606
>you wouldn't download a car
fuck off, dork

>>26665451
Doesn't Anycolor take fucking 90% of the earnings?

>>26667834
>membership post

>>26666905
This schizos pop up like roaches lmao

>>26665637
In some alternate universe Gura is the only one I see as having what it takes to stand out as an indie; assuming she has the work ethic without a manager

>>26665637
>She's absolutely using cover to her advantage and correctly just sees them as a stepping stone
Rumao retard Cover owns her model and her content. You really believe an autistic wigger with shit tier rap music like Mori can make it alone once she goes indie? Kson going back to whoring herself out just like before and Rushia became an e-girl eating on those delusional fancucks. These bitches are nothing without Hololive brand power, just some sluts whoring themselves to get money from gachikois.

>>26667858
At this point we don't need a vtuber's union, we need government fucking regulation. Nip businessmen are bleeding our otakus dry.

>>26667747
Gotcha so you have no respect for Kaichou. Understood bugman

>>26667621
Nigga he acknowledged Taiwan, the fuck are you on about?

>>26667962
she needs to take her "me time" occasionally

>>26667718
Gura had quit streaming. Her last few lives before joining EN were pretty bad; you could tell that she wasn't having fun anymore. When she stepped away from it all-- stopped tweeting and streaming, no uploads to her YouTube channel, etc.-- nobody was really surprised. Her redebut as the shark wasn't initially shocking because of who she used to be but because everyone assumed that she'd quit streaming for good. I'm not sure how much of her current success she directly owes to Cover, if any, but before joining Hololive she was finished as a vtuber.

>>26667980
>You really believe an autistic wigger with shit tier rap music like Mori can make it alone
I constantly hear about her roommate's career thanks to this board so imma tentatively say yes.

>>26665272
Meanwhile Mori having best year of her life and everyone sucking her tits, why is it like this?

>>26665272
>doing some light maneuvering of furniture to give more room
>spending some time to get programs set up before hand and test it all out like a professional would so as to not fuck up on performance day
>MUH MENTALS
How does this grown ass woman manage to get out of bed and dress herself with the overwhelming stress and hardship she has to deal with that comes along with the trials to entertain people for vast amounts of money a few hours a week? Covers almost as bad as a chinese warehouse full of child sweatshop workers I tell you what.

>>26667747
>being influenced by big mattress propaganda to spend 10k just because you spend 1/3 of your life sleeping

>>26668043
You don't think that getting hired to hololive was the direct cause of her stepping away?

>>26668069
Anon I couldn't even fathom how to capture and process mocap data. And these girls are, well, not very good with technology.

I fucking hate teamates

>>26668126
No I don't.

>>26668165
Rent Free

>>26667858
Deflection post, ignore it.

>>26668069
That is...that is not how that works.

>>26668112
the fuck are you on about idiot

>>26666468
I've been watching Ame a long time and I could see her getting pissed off about this really easily.

>>26668194
Inside my dick

>>26668190
>"I feel my heart die a bit everytime I go into my discord"
said about her fans at the time. But no it was cover that made her stop.

>>26668198
>That is...that is
Go back unironically

HoloENmems are labourers and members of the proletariat! Solidarity with vtubers around the globe in the ongoing struggle for liberation!

>>26668069
It's not a live performance anon, it's all recorded.
They're trying to use a mocap suit, a home "studio", and editing to produce something professional.
>few hours a week
Oh, okay, so you know literally nothing about Kiara, the one person in EN who treats entertainment as a full time job.

>>26668150
These days it's very easy that you can just use an iPhone for it. Of course the quality is worse than a proper mocap setup but it's not as hard as you think.

>>26666468
This.
I feel bad for Ame.

>>26665272
yagoo is the biggest jew in vtubing and I pray everyday that Gura leaves him so his company can stop leeching off of her. He has given nothing to her that she couldn't get herself and it pisses me off.

>>26667037
You’re measuring her success post hololive. Before Mori, her rm struggled HARD. She barely had any of the attention she has now. And honestly for good reason, her rm music is horrible but the grind was and still is respectable. Even now, her most recent shit is garbage and if you don’t believe that she is still hard carried by the Mori name and hololive you’re brain dead. If for some god-fearing reason Mori had to leave hololive she would be back to square one and would become irrelevant instantly all over again.

>>26668244
Connor is right, you should never run a discord for your audience

I love these schizo threads

>>26668319
Why *is* her music so bad? With the amount of time and effort she's put in her music career, shouldn't it have improved by now? Is she just coasting like a dumbass?

>>26668031
>I have nothing to counter you so you must be Chinese
Yes, I respect her very much. Too much, in fact, to pretend she was something she wasn't. Do you really think she chose Kiryu as a role model for no reason? Coco may have mixed feelings about it but she's still American as fuck, all the way down to fucking with authority figures just because she could and because authority should be fucked with from time to time.

>>26668404
Anon you're forgetting to add the "Winnie the Pooh can suck my dick" trope, your criticism on Coco is weightless in here without it.

>>26668222
If you don't know, you don't know

>>26668389
With the amount of time and effort you've put into living, shouldn't your life have improved by now? Putting a lot of time into something doesn't mean it will get ebtter.

So to sum it up, Kiara wants an extravagant 3D debut for her birthday, maybe something like HoloX 3D debuts for comparison. Her options are :
(a) making her own studio with Ame's help,
(b) renting a proper 3D studio, and
(c) Travel to record everything in Ame's studio

Options (a) and (b) are not possible cause manager thought they cost too much money
And now she travel to Ame's place, but Ame's place is not good enough to make her standard 3D debut. So everyone blame the Cover now.

Do I got everything right?

>>26668126
Nope. She was burned out, at least with her old persona if not with streaming in general. Without Hololive she might've reincarnated as someone else eventually but was entirely done with HER. I personally think she might've gone into either production or something else similar to the Belle Delphine thing but that's just me.

>>26668389
If I had to guess, the “connections” that she made don’t care about the rm stuff, only the Mori stuff and honestly if Mori was smart she’d retire the RM shit and focus entirely on Mori content. The UMG album drops in a month and it’s going to be a hit, good music or otherwise, whereas with the rm stuff it’s just been mediocre

>>26668404
Wow you really didn't watch kaichou did you bugman?

>>26668389
Electro swing is relatively niche and she uses the same rappity rap flow you hear eminem clones constantly use.
She occasionally pulls off a hit but they're few and far between, I think focusing on singing is a better move.

>>26668545
Everyone is blaming Kiara, not Cover.

>>26668605
Not really

>>26668596
I fully blame her obsession with a certain band for this and hope that this electric swing shit dies off like the plague that it is.

>>26665272
EN is a failure and not worth the effort, this is why loserbait/Omega got fired. They get a salary and tons of free subs just for streaming and half of them can't even do that.

>>26668679
t. coping Nijinigger

>>26665759
>>26666647
YO, DAMN !

>>26666536
That's my mom!

>>26668545
A is stupid and too expensive, B is too expensive, C is most likely cheaper than B since she can't go to Japan. C is also a good reason to do the first Myth's offcollab.

>>26668289
>They're trying to use a mocap suit, a home "studio", and editing to produce something professional.
Which is even easier than a live performance wearing one then, did you think that was going to be a positive in her favor? It's a little more time put in to get it how you want depending on your autism, but that's still nothing and people do that shit for a living with REAL job hours. And I assume you're also counting the sit-on-ass time during streams in the total hours you need to have in order to justify your vision of her in your head? Neither of these things are difficult yet, what seems to be a prerequisite for vtubers in general, they crack her fragile constitution. If it's all just for membership content and the continuation of simp pity bucks, which it probably is, then I can respect the grift but if it isn't then her lack of mental endurance that's been shown since debut is pathetic.

>>26668389
It's J-rap. There is no good J-rap. Any other genre the amount of hustle Mori brings to the table would've made her at least somewhat profitable but instead she went and chose fucking J-rap. I generally respect the hell out of single minded windmill tilting but goddamn did she choose to back a loser.

>>26665439
Gura could make the same amount or more as an indie, but I don't think she has the ambition to do it herself and likes having the in company friends
>>26665637
Gura yes, Mori and IRyS no. Mori has made way more money under cover. Maybe Mori could make more now as an indie than she did preholo, but no way is preholo mori even close to her current status

>>26668789
so why she can't go to Japan again?

>>26665272
People always bitch about youtube and cover taking a cut but they provide models and a streaming platform.
Why does nobody talk about taxes. The government takes the biggest cut. And what do you get in return? Gibs going to minorities? They're the biggest leeches of them all, they provide NOTHING. Even Kson couldn't stop giving a cut to the fucking taxman. We need a solution.

>>26668852
They wouldn't make as much as they're making now but they'd get a significant boost from having been in hololive

>>26665820
That would be the lockdowns from the "pandemic" you retard. Most people have already abandoned vtubing in the west.

>>26668605
Kiara decided to leave Japan and go back to Austria. Cover is a JP company first and Kiara decided to seek employment with them. EN is just a side branch. If they showed special treatment for the one person living in Europe vs everyone else in their company it would create a shit storm.
You'd have JP girls asking why Kiara gets free flights and perks they don't, and the ID girls would have the same complaints.
Basically to keep it fair, you either live in Japan and take advantage of what the company has to offer or you deal with what you have.
Honestly I think Mori really restrains herself from using those opportunities more and IRyS sure hasn't had any advantages as far as models or 3D.

>>26668914
>>>/pol/

>>26668914
LIST OF THINGS THE US GOVERNMENT SHOULD PROVIDE FOR ITS TALENTS

>>26668911
???
how can you not know?

>>26668911
coof

>>26666536
idk sounds like a girl boss to me

>>26666770
>>26666943
>>26667170
Mori would be like Kson is now if she went indie. I don't think 9 of the other 10 girls would be making really anything as indies. Gura is bigger than kson both pre holo and would be bigger post holo
>>26668919
Gura is fine either way, but Gura would clearly need to hire a manager because she is a retard who legit needs someone whipping her or she gets lazy. Mori would make more now, she is basically kson. the other 9 would make significantly less and be 2 views without holo, nowhere near kson status.

>>26668956
>>26668966
Tell me why it's wrong to give a cut to youtube and cover but not the government.
What do they provide? At least cover and youtube provided SOMETHING.

>>26669001
>>26668977
You can enter the country for business reasons. Again this returns to the main point that Cover doesn't give a shit and is a black company.

>>26668719
the only one coping here is you, cover shill

>>26668911
ABEEEEEEEEEEEEEE LET ME IN
>>26668914
This is the only place I saw that constantly bring up company cut I swear. In the other industries where similar cut exist, no one really cares.

>>26668804
>people do that shit for a living with REAL job hours
But that's the thing, people who do that for a living have real experience doing it. These girls are trying to figure it out on their own with no experience and no help. Were you productive on the first week you started a new job?

>>26668804
>using a consumer suit at home managing everything yourself is somehow easier than doing something in a professional studio like every other member of the company
???????????
If you wanna whine about streamers getting more money than you then go off, but your target is the only person who actually works in EN, so at least be aware of that.

>>26669016
IRyS was a 3view before hololive, I think she could easily retain 1-2k viewers and most of her paypigs after going indie.

>>26669034
You can also. here me out. Not want to go to japan... when everyone else is traveling elsewhere.

>>26669018
becuase this is not the board to discuss this you faggot. now get out

>>26668954
>decided to leave
Lmao she didn't decide shit. Her visa literally ran out. She HAD to leave.

>>26665272
>Why would any of the girls even stay at this point if that were the case?

Can you even do basic math, anon?
If I gave you the choice, would you rather have 50% of $500,000 or 100% of $5000?
This problem isn't difficult for even the most retarded of posters that wander into /vt/, so consider yourself an SSR retard.

>>26669095
>Not want to go to japan.
then that's kiara's problem and she has no right to complain

>>26668914
We love the government here /pol/chud

>>26669116
It's the same discussion about an entity taking a cut.

>>26669073
Cause the company does fucking nothing ,at least Youtube's cut pays for the hosting of literally every grandma's videos, Cover's cut seems to pay a couple dozen salary men so they can jerk off in an office and tell the talent what games they're not allowed to play.

>why does cover not help us!
>streams only for a hour
>take breaks constantly
>constantly plays FOTM
It’s not a shocker that EN dosen’t get any help when they’re lazy streamers.

>>26668594
Still got my pin, card, and jacket. It's a shame that people like you have seen fit to try to use her legacy for your own ends but that's just how it goes, isn't it? Now go ahead and make your next "Remember to Thank China" thread where half the replies are just you arguing with yourself on both sides. I'm sure that eventually most of the board will completely buy your bullshit, even when it refuses to gel with the previous bullshit you sold them.

>>26669125
I'll take the 100% because money in the hand is always worth two in the bush.

>>26669091
how many views does kson get?

>>26668954
>Kiara decided to leave Japan
Stopped reading. Fucking newfags

>>26669034
Japan doesn't consider streaming a valid business

>>26669125
Except they're not getting 100% anon, but much closer to 35%, 50% at most.

>>26668954
>Kiara decided
fucking newfag

>>26669227
explain trash taste

>>26669153
answering this, because they're paying to use the brand name and without it most of them would still be in 2view or low 3view range
do you know all those niggers that go:
>I only watch hololive/nijisanji
blame them

>>26669135
This.
Just wait until Kiara starts to discredit Ame's work because she was not satisfied with how the concert went.

>>26669153
then leave the corpo, save up enough money and do your own thing like K-son. Is Kiara brave enough to do that? no, because as suck as Cover is, the money is still good

>>26669214
You'd rather take $5000 than $250,000, both of which are money in the hand?

>>26669257
haha I reeeeeaaaallllly hope you're joking, anon...

>>26665272
Hololive takes 30% of what's left after Youtube takes its cut. Maybe they take 50% from merch and promotions.

>>26668056
Her rm got hard carried by her identity as Mori Calliope a.k.a Hololive brand power. No one, even her "friends" truly giving a shit about her rm. All these clout she got is because the simple fact she's in Hololive, the most famous vtuber company in the world. Once she graduates, all these "friends" gonna abandon her real quick when they figure out that they archive nothing else from her rm.

>>26669091
Doesn't matter, paypigs are not a significant portion of their income

>>26669274
Two of them used the same scam Mori used to get temporary residence and one of them is a halfbreed abomination with citizenship.

>>26669135
You can complain about anything. this board proves that. Even if you make a choice doesn't mean your gonna be super happy about it the entire time. Work is Work and you'll be drained when things don't go as planned.

>>26669288
THEY ARE LIKE TOTALLY GONNA HATE EACH OTHER LIKE OH MAH GAWD REBECA

>>26665272
>Why would any of the girls even stay at this point if that were the case?
The main reason that makes them stay despite what you said is how the hololive environment makes them get away with stuff that normally a solo streamer/youtuber has to worry about.
They can perfectly stream as much (or as little) as they want, they can take multiple breaks and not worry whether they'll retain their paypigs or not, they also can fuck off to their roommates, do whatever and profit an extra with zero consequences because fans with "forbidden knowledge" know where to find you.
They also don't have to worry about merch, outfits, marketing... Not to mention how the Holo hugbox protects them from shit that solo people or small companies have to deal with.

>>26669288
>>26669272
Fuck off SEAmonkeys.
Kiara could've easily asked Cover to help her with her visa issue

>>26665272
Didn't some anon say that Ame negotiated a better deal for Myth in regards to Cover's cut? Even if Cover is taking about half, they're still making well into the 6 figures. They are doing fine.

>>26669331
explain pewdiepie

>>26669118
So let me get this straight
>applies for job knowing visa will expire
>gets kicked out of country after visa expires
>somehow its Covers fault she isn't in Japan to get all the 3D perks
I don't know, that seems like more of a Kiara caused issue.

>>26669371
>Kiara could've easily asked Cover to help her with her visa issue
And who said she didn't?

>>26669153
They get a salary from Cover, that's more than they would be getting as an indie.

>>26665637
Roru. Nice bait you got here, especially the Calli being smart part.

>>26668934
Trying too hard

>>26665272
cover is probably like: just kanauru or get ame to help

>>26669320
No. Google automatically takes 30% of all money earned by all creators.
Of the money left over, Cover takes 50%.
So for every dollar of total earnings, they make 35 cents.

This has been talked about by multiple Holos.

>>26669376
You can get a residence by putting millions in the bank. Good luck ever getting that money out of the country though. Kiara has considered it. It's utterly stupid unless you're pewdiepie rich. The yen is fucking crashing harder than other currencies right now. Pewdiepie probably lost millions.

>>26669387
....do you know what COVID is?

>>26669387
she has bird brain

>Holomems are sometimes here
>there's a chance one of the EN girls saw this
>if one is here, they probably ALL are here

>>26666536
This also applies to my government.

>>26668914
>15-25ish% all told, depending on tax bracket and deductions
>that number is somehow larger than YouTube's 30% and Cover's 35-50%

>>26669153
I assume you don't have any working experience in a company.

>>26669338
>using Ame's roommate's name.

>>26666647
Laughs in sanbaka merch. Fuck off eop

>>26669404
did she say she asked for it?

>>26669433
Overseas views are already declining, retard

>>26669484
mori if you are listening to this please retire the roommate music and focus on just mori content Im fucking begging you. you weren't good at rapping and the electro swing nonsense has to stop. its an infection and i blame you for it

>>26669516
For which they get nothing in return.

>>26665272
these fuckers should just fly to japan, fucking nigachiken can speak moon

>>26669620
Enough people like it. Unfortunate for you but no reason to stop. Just look anywhere but this site.

>>26669637
why are you people so retarded?
>looks at the time
oh right, it's sea hours

>>26665931
Except she got away from the bullshit in Hololive that made her miserable. Especially from Chinese trolls.

>>26669532
I work in tech, and lemme tell you I'm appalled by everything I've seen come out of corporate vtubers besides maybe 1-2 nice things. Basically every field I have even remote knowledge in, I can confidently say Cover and every other JP company are running them with Indian-tier quality, and probably paying Japanese top dollar for it too.

>>26669593
I don't watch all her streams so I wouln't know. But you're just assuming that she didn't ask.

>>26667037
HAHAHAHHA HOLY FUCK
Before Hololive she was just TopHat cock slave, all her success is thanks to Hololive

>>26669747
why don't you go and tell them how to do it better for less money then, i'm sure they'd hire you

>>26669711
stop coping i see nothing but negative/mixed reviews on the rm shit. remember that one song that was so bad she had to pull it from the album and had to deal with twitter shit days before the umg album announcement?

>>26667037
>Her roommate has been on tour all summer
Is her tour going any good? I only saw one video of it and it looked like she was singing alone at some shitty convention held in a high school gym.

>>26669628
You don't drive, have easy access to entertainment, food, healthcare, education, emergency support, enjoy a certain amount of safety when you travel abroad, or use telecommunications for any reason? What an odd place you must live, then.

>>26669747
Nice good job.

>>26669762
I could say the same to you, you are just assuming she did ask.
I mean Cover's even planning to bring Gura to Japan for Mori's concert, how could they don't do the same for Kiara if she asked

>>26669827
>Moving the goalpost
Just admit you're posting solely for the dopamine hit it gives you and have no idea where you even wanted this conversation to go.

>>26669832
>remember that one song that was so bad she had to pull it from the album and had to deal with twitter shit
What's this about?

>>26669870
Cover doesn't provide any of these things for their talents, you fucking idiot.

>>26665272
Other than being under the Hololive brand Cover give them nothing. EN pays and organize everything by themselves.

>>26669859
lol for real, where could i find the video?

>>26669859
i think that's been the majority of her tours but honestly thats a good start for anyone in her position and i think she has like, two more planned for july?

>>26669593
>>26669762
She literally did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RShzXuhUnPo&t=422s
>I asked if maybe I could, with the help of Hololive, maybe I could, y'know, extend it, but like, y'know, get a different visa, but uh, that didn't happen

>>26669832
Looking for shit and you find shit. Shocker.. Can look up negatives on anything and suddenly the whole thing must be hated. Doesn't matter how much those people are loud. Only ones that matter are the people she cares about enjoying it.

>>26669907
>I mean Cover's even planning to bring Gura to Japan for Mori's concert
Is there any proof for this?

>>26669995
how strange, Mori could get a different visa but Kiara can't. Why Cover? Why?

>>26669447
If you're pewdiepie rich you most definitely not holding all of your assets in one currency. If anything most of his money is still in USD.

>>26665437
>>26669320
Both Coco and Moona talked about the revenue split with Cover being 50/50 after Google takes 30%. Coco talked about it on Asacoco and Moona talked about it recently and there's a clip of it on youtube.
So the revenue split is 30/35/35 for Google/Cover/Holo.
And considering all the costs of everything, it's really more than fair. Unless you're a newfag like OP and you don't understand what COVER actually does for them.
And most of all, there's also this >>26669125 .

>>26669375
>Didn't some anon say that Ame negotiated a better deal for Myth
And did anon have a source for that? Did he even say where he heard it?

>>26669593
Kiara been trying to get into Japan ever since Holofes, of course she asked. Literally she have been talking about this for months. She even look for a studio with the tools around her area but they were all around 6 digit just for a single day to use so Ame was probably her last option.

>>26670041
>looking for shit and you find shit.
my guy im saying that's all I can find. stop huffing ass and accept that fact that some things just aren't good.

>>26670087
Mori has a degree

>>26669912
i'm a different anon, i'm not moving anything and hadn't bothered to read the thing you were replying to, sorry

>>26669870
>Drive
>after biden made it impossible to afford gasoline
>everything else he listed is private entities
>including buying a gun instead of relying on the police
Yep, the government's cut is the biggest scam of them all. They provide chuubas NOTHING. Cover and Youtube aren't the biggest leeches.

>>26665272
>concert
3D was a mistake.

>>26669970
>Cover give them nothing.
You're a newfag. Lurk for a hundred more years.

>>26669907
>I mean Cover's even planning to bring Gura to Japan for Mori's concert
Huh? Where was this said?

>>26670041
She will NEVER have sex with you cuckbeat

>>26670129
The degree she has should be illegal to pursue. It's a complete waste of money and resources. If anything that degree should bar you from entering Japan.

So how did all the MYTH girls get 3D for Holofes but all of a sudden it just can't happen anymore?

>>26670087
Mori went to underworld japan to teach scythe slinging. So she has a very different visa to Kiara.

>>26670122
I'm saying that its a matter of opinion when it comes to anything art related. Even more so when the person in question is not even the one talking about it to you. She does what she wants and obviously she's fine with this.

>>26670210
Motion capture is a bitch to get. These models need motion capture, or you have to animate by hand.

>>26670216
She already quit that job anon

>>26670210
They probably gave them money to rent out a studio and prerecord it for holofest.

>>26670210
Fat old men were wearing the mocap suits.

>Laughs in 0% cut

>>26665272
They've being by themselves since the beggining Ame has done all the good shit

>>26670198
Actually not a fan of her lol Just bored. Don't look at the girls like that because I'm not interested

>>26670087
Mori is better at sucking dick

>>26670318
She still has the visa though. She just has to teach somewhere like 1 day a year

>>26670320
or the commission someone like Kanauru to do the jobs, you know like Gura birthday

>>26667858
I've never heard any of the Nijisanji member's talk about their revenue split with Anykara. However, there are like 200 Niji "livers" so I'm sure that one of them has mentioned something about it in the past.
That being said, I sincerely doubt Anykara takes anywhere near 90% of the revenue. I would be surprised if it wasn't similar to Hololive. The only thing I know is that Nijis don't get a small base salary like Holos do because some of their talent, like Shiba have said that in the beginning, they weren't making anything and had no income.

>>26669995
Why isn't holofes considered a 3D debut?

t. retard

>>26670318
She still has the visa. She's probably fucking committing visa fraud and only teaching 1 day a year or something.
Would explain why she was so fucking scared of the police knocking on her door when she lost her residence card.
It's that or drugs.

>>26670417
Shiba had to literally beg viewers for donations to afford food and medicine.
Anycolor will never live that down.

>>26665985
They need someone better than Kanauru, he isn't remotely a pro 3D modeller/artist.

>>26670434
Probably both

>>26670275
If the general matter of opinion is that it's shit I wouldn't be fine with it but hey she can do her and you can do you. The difference is she won't do you :^)

>>26670370
Maybe thats why she does those english learning streams

>>26669995
>dosen't want to go to college
based

>>26670521
my money on the 'druggs'

>>26670320
>They probably gave them money to rent out a studio

OK, now lets think about that because that is a good point.
It's been said the studios cost $100K a day to rent.
So does it make sense Cover dropped half a million dollars on the 5 Myth girls (plus tack on 3 ID1 girls) for Holofes? Did they really make that much money off that fes to cover all of those expenses and still profit?

Something just isn't adding up.

>>26667962
She doesn't even have the work ethic WITH a manager

>>26665637
No they wouldn't you stupid fuck. You think you'd even ever know who Ame or Ina was if it wasn't for Hololive?
Are you kidding? Their roommates had sub 100 viewers before they joined. Gura had it slightly better, but I still doubt the majority of people here would even know about her if it wasn't for Hololive.

>>26670521
Most likely yeah. Mori is absolutely willing to do shady/illegal shit to get ahead.

>>26670524
Not interested Actually~ Not my cup of tea in the first place. Only bored as hell and figured ide chime in. Perfectly acceptable to hate what you hate just as much as it is for someone to argue against you.

>>26670087
Mori has consistently been living there for years working and stuff. Not to mention she has a Japanese BF too that would help her with all this shit. Kiara on the other hand is literally a high-school dropout that went to Japan, worked as an idol for a while then went back home then went back to Japan then went back home again. To get even a 4 years visa you need at least a bachelor's degree and find a job like English teacher or something but Kiara don't have shit.
Japan is not like America that gives green cards even to criminals and people with no studies or abilities and that only go there for the wellfare. PDP at least have millions in the banks and there is no country that wouldn't welcome a millionaire.

>>26667037
AND HOW DO YOU THINK SHE GOT THOSE CONNECTIONS YOU BUMBLING RETARD?

>>26666757
Nah, f that shit. Hopefully, it goes well.

>>26670684
fair enough based argument chad i hope you are having a good day

>>26670590
Fat old men in suits. It's the only way.

Man, if there is one thing EN has taught me it's that I should've taught english in Japan a long time ago. I wouldn't be here if I did...

Poor ame, she should of stuck with silver

>>26670808
Same to you Bored of this Board now. Just turning into the usual cope and seethe. All we can do is see what happens later anyways. Not like we have much power over their choices..

>>26670829
Now all I can picture is the people who failed the 1st stage of Ninja Warrior or MXC getting a quick 30,000 yen to dance around in a suit.

>>26670829
>the end of gura 3D birthday live
>she wiggles her ass and tail
>it was ojisan all along

h-hot

All that I get from this is that Ame is an angel for doing all this shit for her friends

>>26671056
I wonder if they pooled all their money together to get this all set up? Or if it was all Ame? I'd imagine it would cost a shit ton.

>>26671056
She is, though I think Ina is the only one who is somewhat smart with her money.

>>26671056
Ame wants to be of use. She must be really happy cover and the girls rely on her for this stuff

>>26668069
This is performance day, it's pre-recorded.

>>26671293
"Yaay I'm useful"
You must be a retard thinking she has no other agenda to do

>>26668237
Yeah, Ame is laid back and Kiara can be intense and overbearing. Kiara is not wrong for having high standards, but Ame can't deal with those Type-A personality types, well.

>>26671393
So according to you, there's no genuinely good people in the world? Someone that just wants to help their friends?
This is the girl that paid for everyone's mega-collab 3D assets 3 times

>this wouldn't happen if this was niji
>niji are jews that would take all revenue
fucking tribalfaggotry. in the end, they're both corporations. it's like cheering for Youtube and Twitch instead of cheering for the content creators instead which both platforms constantly fuck over.

>>26669723
It's like explaining things to children, isn't it?

>>26671171
Ina literally just stash all the money she earn from Hololive because she earn enough from her main job. I don't think any of the girls in EN is bad with their money, definitely not compare to some JP Hologirls.

>>26671525
Mori spends most of her money are drugs, alcohol, and design clothes

>>26669747
>what is dunning-kruger?

>>26670072
Why don't you read that reply chain again, you illiterate dumbass.

>>26671575
>are
on*

>>26671139
I'd guess it was mostly Ame.
Gura might have thrown her a few bucks.
Ina is pretty frugal but would prob help out if she was asked.
Kiara would argue it isn't fair it is always at Ame's house and she doesn't get to use it as much so I couldn't see her paying.
Mori wouldn't need it nor would IRyS.
Mumei, Fauna, and Kronii might help if they are projected to get 3D.
Sana and Bae might as well just chip in with the Indonesian girls.

>>26670590
Hey moron. KIARA said that renting a studio for the day would cost $100k, which is probably true because she lives in Europe and they don't give a shit about start up tech there.
In the US, renting a studio for motion capture would probably only be a few thousand dollars. Definitely less than $10k. Maybe look into it next time before you start spouting shit.

>>26671525
Ina knows that 'Virtual Idol' is not a long-lasting career, 7-10 years is the most I think. She keeps her main job because there's more prospect in there for the future. I think she said before in subtle that her parents worried about her future (maybe about job or to marry someone idk)

>>26668804
How much experience do you have with mocap anon?

>>26671895
Wow, u make it sound like it is impossible for Kiara to fly to the US to save about $90K and rent a studio there.
Better sponge off Ame instead.

>>26670501
Yeah, I know. That's why I mentioned her specifically.

>>26671895
>KIARA said
okay anon

>>26670133
oh shit I'm sorry my nigga

>>26671907
Seem like typical Asian parents attitude to me.

>>26669214
Burger education folks...

>>26671610
So no proof?

Do you think when they meet up, they also talk about their future plans? Like how long are you going to stay with hololive?

If they are close with each another they might have probably have to heart to heart discussion about their graduation plans together

>>26671698
Sana would not do shit hell she does not really work to start with.

>>26671610
>what is dunning-kruger?
Nice try, I don't claim to know everything, in a lot of cases it's simply because I've seen those aspects as part of my work (I work in an industry that deals with both videogames and media production) and can judge if the quality's good or not. It doesn't mean I can do everything vtuber companies do on my own.

>>26669214
retardchama

>>26668914
Lately my taxes have been paying for dead russians. It's a great deal

>>26672149
>>26672271
>B-but I thought 100% was the bigger number...

>>26669371
Cover isn't handing out work Visas for part-time contract employees.

>>26672041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbReAUXPWlE
Can you provide a single reason why we shouldn't believe what she said in this clip about the motion capture studios she looked at in Europe?
Are you suggesting that she's lying about something so trivial and easily checked? Why?

>>26672210
If they are smart they won't do it now, considering there is Kiara in that group

>>26669376
He's been trying for over 5 years to get into japan, it's only recently that they've changed their stance on professional streamers/content creators.

Motion capture studios don't cost $100k or $10k a day to rent, we had one at my school, what the shit?

>holofag shitting on cover
>nijin*gger compare the companies to feel superior
>get shat on
>victimizes itself and shits the whole thread
every time

I have to say this whole thing makes me respect Ina more. She had a 3D model during her Birthday stream but didn't use it. Gura decided to use hers for WWE and for her birthday stream. Since Gura used it, Kiara feels she has to use hers too. She's always trying to do what Gura does, right down to stealing outfit accessories.

>>26671993
I'm not Kiara. I don't know her plans or her schedule. Flying from Germany to the US and back probably isn't quick or cheap and she may not have an entire week that she can dedicate where she can just drop everything and travel to the US by herself to record the mocap data. If I were Ame, and I wanted to set up some sort of 3D studio, then I'd offer to help Kiara out as well.

>>26669742
youtube stopped them months before she left, both on Coco and kson channel.

>>26672406
so you agree that japan views streaming as a valid business now, thanks

>>26672632
Sure, it only took the most successful youtuber 5 years to do it with extenuating circumstances. You showed him, anon.

>>26672513
Pretty obvious. Niji yab, catalog full of holo bait. Can't make this shit up

>>26672154
I apologize anon, that reply was meant for this idiot. >>26669967
Not you.

>>26672564
>has time and money to fly to Maldives for vacation
>doesn't have time or money to fly to US or Canada for a 1 day video shoot which will net a profit from said Birthday stream
Makes total sense.

>>26672516
Kiara has been talking about using it for her birthday since the moment it got announced anon.
She wanted to have a proper debut with everyone earlier if possible, but said that she was 100% gonna use it for her birthday.

>>26672564
Good point, but your not fooling anyone, This post is a dead giveaway but I'm happy you are getting the help you needed to get everything done.
I know this is a long shot but if you was to be one of the EN's would you guys be streaming today or can I just go to bed.

>>26672717
As I said before anon, it's Kiara.
what would you expect?

>>26672516
t. Not even at threadreader

>>26672513
>>26672699
considering this and that discord screenshot from today I can totally see it. it genuinely looks like management is talking about their numbers with them

>>26672807
I'm not an EN but, it's 8 pm right now on the West Coast of the US, so...
Maybe wait one more hour and then go to bed I guess.

>>26672516
Holy shit you're fucking retarded it's not even funny.

>>26672717
Come on man, I don't give a fuck about Kiara's birthday live but you can't expect her IDOL FRIENDS AND GENMATES not to, you're being ridiculous.

>>26671907
Asian parents mentality.

Ina: I am a vtuber for hololive, the best company for virtual entertainment.

Parents: But ARE YOU the best vtuber over there? Rethink your career choices Ina.

>>26672704
Don't go calling me a fucking dumbass you idiot I fucked your mother she was a fat fuck

>>26672564
>>26672807
Thank you for the twitter update Kiara you are awesome !!!
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1539806351613841413
I wish the other EN's could update us like this.

>>26667170
Most holos joined before it was the biggest game in town actually, even Myth expected holo ID gen 1 numbers more or less.

>>26665985
it's not one guy though...

>>26665637
Stepping stone to what exactly? Her roommate music is quote "dogshit" but that doesn't really matter when like 90% of her audience are all Mori simps,

>>26673035
>it genuinely looks like management is talking about their numbers with them
I mean I hope they do.
I don't want them to prioritize numbers or anything, but a manager should be trying to help their talent succeed and the discord screenshot may have just been brainstorming or something.
I will admit though, that the Pomu tweet definitely would seem to be related if management is pushing numbers. So... I'm not sure what to make of it.

Did Ame move to Europe or Japan

>>26673480
I don't know if this is something that was already happening on nijiEN, maybe through some other leak or their chuubas talking about it, but I think this is a little conveniently timed with the whole niji IPO

KIARA IF YOU READ THIS THREAD I'M INTO SOUNDING (PUTTING OBJECTS IN THE URETHRA (THE HOLE OF THE PEEPEE) (IT BASICALLY MEANS I LIKE TO PUT THINGS INTO MY PEEPEE) )

>>26665393
wholesome 100

I'm really REALLY GLAD that Gura is not a chatterbox, she didn't elaborate about her birthday and suddenly BOOM we got kino Amesame karaoke
She didn't need to bitching about this or that, so her fanbase doesn't need to blame Cover or her friends in case something is wrong with the birthday. Respect you Goomba

>>26673627
Neither, lol.

>>26673330
lowkey would honestly be pretty cool if kiara was actually here. I think one of the two anons having a back and forth about Mori's RM was Mori or someone in the vicinity of Mori.

>>26673330
Sounds like a cheap shot at Ame not finishing the project on time.

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1539809903077773312
lmao

>>26674428
If you're autistic or schizophrenic maybe

>>26674460
>eon_sean
I don't know how Kiara hasn't blocked that nigger yet

>>26674113
Why doesnt she move to Europe or Japan

>>26674428
Are you trying to suggest that she's saying she has training setting up a mocap studio and the others don't, lol?

>>26665272
Retarded take.
Kiara went to LA to meet with Ame on her own volition. It wasn't management who told her to go. You can't fucking expect management to send expensive equipment and a technician to help the girls out just because they randomly decided to hold an off-collab. Silly anon.

>>26674671
Because she likes it here.

>>26675193
No? Ame hates America. Do your reps

>>26674460
>sacrificing a precious day for a concert
Idolshit was a mistake. They could be playing fun games or even just talking, and it would be remembered more fondly than hearing Sparks again, no offence.

>>26674153
really seems like it since she made that post shortly after I asked and I'm happy because this has help me out big time.

>>26674460
>3 girls
Lmao goober is doing absolutely nothing. Definitely based.

>>26675296
This idolshit concert is the whole reason they got together anon.
If it wasn't for it you'd be waiting until they all got called in to JP... Which would also be for idolshit.

>>26675296
They're figuring it out now so it'll be easier to do in the future.
It's probably a lot of work and they probably don't really know what they're doing.

>>26675390
>LOOK AT ME GUYS, I CAN'T COUNT

>>26675390
she posted she was setting it up with 3 girls so that makes 4 people, learn to count.

>they're putting all this work to make a proper studio out of Ame's room
>only person with access to it will be Ame
>the one known to lose interests in gimmicks immediately
The sad part is that it's gonna get used once or twice after this concert and then never again.

>>26673299
My mom's a 4'10 twig, but okay anon.

>>26674460
it's funny considering she is the only one who doesn't own a mocap suit lol

>>26674104
She doesn't seem to be very talkative at all since going there.
I hope she's not too nervous.

>>26665931
wtf are you talking about kson mentioned making like 150k a month after she got her new model
even if shes only making a fraction of that as hype dies down thats more than enough to live comfortably, and she seems pretty smart with saving/taxes

>>26665272
rrat: holo EN is currently discussing how to secede and form an indie group