/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>26502637
Who would win?
>The hottest new talent of the "biggest vtuber agency in the world" capable of mustering 100k live viewers
Or
>One drawy boi

Bots don't donate

>>26502637
Botisanji...

>>26502637
Poor just like her

>>26502637
Kek, they didn't bother programing the bots to donate 1 buck once in a while at least

oof

>>26502637
>making fun of the bots that cant superchat
fucked up OP

>>26502637
Holy shit I thought the whole botting stuff was just a meme

>>26502637
It would probably be money laundering if they tried to bot supas

>starsfags are now pulling the luxiemcope

>>26502713
Drawy boy is hot. I want him to draw me like one of his french boys.

>>26503147
Imagine losing to someone who has less than 1/10th your viewership
Just imagine

>>26502637
Dang And I thought this bottibg thing was bullshit.
100k viewers and only 4 hundreds dollars is bullshit.

>>26502637
>>26503002
holy moly

>>26502637
focusing on merch, voice messages and nudies like Gura do

>>26503002
this has to be fake or out of context, maybe its the debuff game? do we have some other comparison?

>>26503002
Nothing suspicious about this at all

>>26503272
or, here's a better explaination, maybe it's bots that can't superchat

>>26502637
AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE CHINA donate more please!!!

Everyone knows she is getting botted so they can try and inflate their stock price
Why do we need another thread for this? Fuck off to your retarded general

>>26503355
>Everyone knows she is getting botted so they can try and inflate their stock price
that's not what you said the last time we had this thread

>>26503259
Red men and blue women someone explain this phenomenon to me

>>26503211
It's actually closer to 1/100th, Ganma is a 500 ish ccv vtuber

>>26503272
>debuff game
>Gets more than 80k ccv on almost every stream
No anon, this is the reality

>>26502637
The difference between knowing how to bait supas and other donations and just doing shit regardless of them.
Kudos on Gamma tho, dude has them trained well from what I have seen on the ocassions I catch his streams.

>>26502813
>>26502906
>>26502996
>>26503025
>>26503112
>>26503121
>>26503220
>>26503307
>>26503355
>Bots bots bots
You guys are worse than /pol/tards with this shit. Stop regurgitating this meme as if it's a fact.

>>26503579
>its not a fact because I say so
t. Zhang Chen

>>26503579
the nijinigger shrieks in fear upon being called out

>>26502637
looks like bots

>>26503579
whats the explanation then?

>>26502637
While her supas are suspicious, you should compare her to other female vtubers. Male vtubers get a lot more money because they appeal to women and women are the prime consumers in the economy.

holocope thread

What is the difference between fandom and tourists ?

> OK

From
>She gets those big numbers because she has talent and she attracts new and bring back old vtuber fans
To this
>>26503355
Nijikeks in shambles

>>26503371
Red is a powerful color and blue is a gentle color

>>26503579
Rentfree nijinigger, /pololive/ rules this board

Kuzucope thread

the amount of samefag in this thread is incredible

Lack of simps is an indicator of a good fanbase.

Fake you are fucking fake . Go to hell hololive .

>>26502996
YT will eat 30% of that, resulting in a net loss

>>26502637
Chinkbotsanji confirmed once again

>>26503682
nijiseethe

500 CCV

Her sc numbers aren't actually too surprising when compared to others in Nijisanji who don't have a strong female gachikoi fanbase

>>26503893
>losing to someone with less than 1/100th of her viewers
you can't make this shit up

>>26503698
They invent a new lie everyday, why anyone still watch them is a mystery

>>26503579
Imagine being so butt hurt to go full chud about it it. Follow your own advice

>>26503911
OH NO BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>26503712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgm_f6pO0uM

>>26503911
and here's Hajime in comparison, once the most disliked person in Nijisanji

>>26502637
Two explanations:
>bots
Bots don't SC.
>new viewers in general
New viewers don't SC.
Also, she isn't encouraging gachikois, which are more than half of total SC.

It's reassuring to know Gamma has built a dedicated fanbase.

How the hell do you expect her 90% bot audience to donate money?

>>26503911
>>26504028
“also bots” -numbernigger

>>26504412
You should see a doctor for your persecution complex, this shit isn't healthy

this the schizo general?

>losing in numbers
>losing in sc
Nijibros...

>>26504507
How can we save her...

stop concern fagging, she still has 8 more Biohazard games to milk, and I would love to see her play Dead By Daylight which the Ojou persona will be a good fit for it

>>26504145
Dude legit hilarious, he has the potential to beat Robel if he willing to Collab with outside more

>>26504500
Apparently.

Imagine losing to fucking Homostars of all people while being FOTM.
That's pretty pathetic kek. Are nijifags that poor?

>>26502637
Riku still working on figuring out how to bot money to match the other stats, pureasu andastando

Will a nijinigger at least try to explain or will they all just repeat
>cope

>>26504836
you wouldn't even take any explanation legitimately so why bother?

>>26504820
That homostars beat all nijijp males not named Kuzuha , Kanae , Fuwa ,Toya ,Ibrahim

>>26504880

>>26504880
Go ahead, we have all day

>>26502637
bbbbbots? her viewer count is just like the lost ark playerbase

>>26504028
and here's Amamiya Kokoro as another comparison

>>26504836
what are you even asking people to explain? In what world does low superchat indicate that her views are fake? You're the ones who have no proof

>>26505064
Funny... With Luxiem, the SCs were proof of success. Now that doesn't matter anymore?

>>26502637
Riku is too cheap to donate to pad the donation stat because 50% would go to taxes and youtube.
Besides, the investors are too stupid to notice the botting despite the fact that she isn't getting donations. Look at how well the IPO went.

>>26504880
Not him, but I'm genuinely curious, how can such a high viewcount result in low sc earnings? I don't even think thats bots, do niji viewers just not donate at all?

>>26505064
any explanation of such low numbers. Here out the top of my head, this was early on the stream, this was after a big stream that had tons of donations, this was a debuff stream with low CCV, this was during another bigger stream in the company, shitty hours, etc, etc.

There, fucking easy.

>>26505064
In the world where a girl with 100k viewers is earning less than a dude with 500, now answer the question

>>26505034
and here's Shirayuki Tomoe

>>26502637
Judging by the fact that all her viewers come from nowhere and go to nowhere, salomekeks are a bunch of tourists, who don't know that supas are life of a chuba. Or that they are bots.

>>26505220
Now give us the Uproar boy stats, anon

>>26505269
do it yourself faggot, it's literally a click away

>>26505233
>>26505220
they don't even comment
unless the tourists are retards who don't know how to type, I supposed the chinks haven't programmed their bots to spam some comments

>>26505233
Her crossover rate is ~10% according to vrabi though, which is average for nijisanji. The other graph that was posted was made with inaccurate data

>>26505211
>>26505034
so realistically speaking, this should be desuwa's number without botting

>>26505220
>600 bucks
Kek, what the fuck. That's what Ayame makes in 5 seconds of streaming.

>>26505220

she doesn’t even interact with her chat; there’s no point of donating

>>26505401
>Ayame....streaming
okay, that made me laugh

>>26505463
Ina doesn't read supers either and yet she gets thousands of dollars every stream. This sounds like cope.

>>26505463
New rrat: her streams are pre-recorded.

>>26505348
They don't comment the video after it's streamed anon. No one has a high comment rate (Pekora at #3 worldwide has a .22% comment rate)

>>26505514
crying over backseating is interacting with chat

>>26504507
Oh no no no no no… nijibros you said she would be the one… WHAT WENT WRONG?!

>>26505649
you can only do so much with botting

>>26505144
>luxiem is botted because their viewers get disconnected sometimes! don't worry about the superchats
>salome is botted because she doesn't make enough superchats! don't worry about her viewers you see nijisanji just magically manifested bots immune to being culled obviously

>>26505348
Chink bots can spam in chat, see fbk before sub only restriction. Maybe riku so stingy he doesn't want to pay for better quality bots

>>26505689
>Sometimes

>>26505692
yeah but they can only repeat some simple phrases
it would look too suspicious

>>26505211
If Tomoe had desuwa number, she would've make 1400$ or more

still no explanation

>>26505725
so is luxiem botted or is salome? pick one, faggots

>>26503579
>mass reply
Not good optics sister

>>26505211
Maimoto, with an almost entirely male viewership. Granted this isn't a good sample period

>>26505725
>Raids are not a thing to holoschizos
Would explain why they dont encourage gifted subs or raids

>>26505844
here
>>26505689
youtube hasn't done anything to her channel meaning it's legit

>>26505979
All those were before raids

>>26505869
Inui Toko, known to many as "Suisei's friend"

>>26505819
The most obvious detail is bots can't comment what is happening on stream, use emote or interact with chubba at all

>>26506004
okay sure buddy

>>26505979
The absolute state of nijicope

>>26506011
Yashiro, the exemplary bro-tuber

>>26505995
how is this >>26505689 an explanation of a 80k CCV getting 500 bucks? Thats just a sarcastic comment mocking antis.

I'd even take a lie at this point, its been like an hour and not one single Niji fan has come back like with a screenshot of her getting 5k in one stream or showing that these streams had 2k viewers, etc. Just, insults all around.

>>26506139
No cope here friend, i know my non-salome oshi isn't going to be hitting million marker for some time, but she gets good revenue and her fanbase loves her
Hololive on the other hand, can't handle Kobo losing, both in numbers and in revenue, thus this thread exists

>>26505463
>she doesn’t even interact with her chat; there’s no point of donating

>schizos shit on a fanbase
>immediately turn it around when they realize they can use them
>switches around again next day
Hmm

>>26503259
Isn't this a star?
He's not doing too bad.

>>26506404
Welcome to the reality anon, Stars are not the failure that 4chan makes you believe

>>26506154

>>26506522
thank fucking god, took almost 2 hours. This is all you niggers had to do jesas

>>26506215
Yet here you are, projecting and coping

>>26503259
>>lol star gonna die

>>26502637
They really should be putting out some more merch for her to shill. Basically everything that she talks about gets sold out or bought up. Like those make-up products and that otome game whose site kept crashing from all of the traffic when she accidentally showed her Switch home bar on stream.

>>26506215
Well kobo is a very similar case, I think she’s gone the distance for an ID but she’s dying down fast as well. Both audiences are delusional and obnoxious so I’ll be sure to bully the shit out of them when all is said and done.

>>26506311
I don't watch Gura, wow her stream titles are cringe.

>>26506700

>>26506642

Don't worry about them, they're fine.

oh no no it is over for nijis

>>26502637
oh no no no no nijisisters
even holoID mocking at us right now

>>26502637
Bots and tourists. Girl's about to crash harder than Anykara's stock.

>>26503682
Sure is some good cope, look at how Pekora pissed on her yesterday, it was awful to watch-desuwa...

>>26506404
Stars are doing good. Not Holo good, but good

>>26506767
>FB_IMG_
its beautiful every time

>>26506700

cost of living

ID vs JP

Please serch GDP

So shitposts aside, what did we learn from this thread? That Cover is extremely good at attracting simps and whatever the female equivalent of that is. However, if you're not a newfag you should have known this already

>>26506910
Mogged by Kowalski

>>26506841

Concert Estimates
HOLOSTARS 1st ACT
Sold out venue
8,000 Yen per local ticket * (2000 (venue capacity(https://hachioji-mice.org/en/venues/hall/8eb234e0c368895fd29610195e5dfb41f5b324d7.html)))) * (.5 Covid Measures))
8,000,000 Yen total
+ Unknown number of of streaming tickets @ 4,800 yes and unknown sales for concert merch

Holoshop sales:
HOLOSTARS White Day 2022
”Thanks bouquet” Set Hanasaki Miyabi 131 $31.00 $4,061.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Kanade Izuru 178 $31.00 $5,518.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Arurandeisu 63 $31.00 $1,953.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Rikka 94 $31.00 $2,914.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Astel Leda 202 $31.00 $6,262.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Kishido Temma 131 $31.00 $4,061.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Yukoku Roberu 185 $31.00 $5,735.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Kageyama Shien 182 $31.00 $5,642.00
”Thanks bouquet” Set Aragami Oga 145 $31.00 $4,495.00
Long Button Badge (Random) 3234 $5.00 $16,170.00
$56,811.00

Hanasaki Miyabi Birthday Celebration 2022
Birthday Merch Complete Set 179 $65.00 $11,635.00
Birthday Acrylic Panel 34 $25.00 $850.00
Birthday Mug 25 $25.00 $625.00
Birthday Acrylic Photo Card 16 $13.00 $208.00
Voice Drama “Another day’s birthday” 40 $5.00 $200.00
$13,518.00

Kanade Izuru New Outfit Reveal 2022
New Outfit Acrylic Stand 203 $17.00 $3,451.00 $3,451.00

Kageyama Shien Birthday Celebration 2022
Birthday Merch Complete Set 283 $89.00 $25,187.00
Birthday 2022 Acrylic Panel 41 $21.00 $861.00
Birthday 2022 Button Badge 278 $5.00 $1,390.00
Summer Outfit Good Luck Charm & Bracelet 34 $37.00 $1,258.00
Nekoyama Plushie 176 $21.00 $3,696.00
Situation Voice “The one I want to protect.” 47 $9.00 $423.00
$32,815.00

Hanakishi 100k Subscribers Celebration
100k Subscribers Celebration Merch Complete Set 343 $57.00 $19,551.00
Acrylic Diorama Stand (Red Riding Hood Hanasaki Miyabi) 91 $21.00 $1,911.00
Acrylic Diorama Stand (Kishido Temma in Wonderland) 87 $21.00 $1,827.00
Foldable Handheld Mirror (Red Riding Hood Hanasaki Miyabi) 26 $9.00 $234.00
Foldable Handheld Mirror (Kishido Temma in Wonderland) 31 $9.00 $279.00
$23,802.00

Astel Leda New Outfit Reveal 2022
Conductor Outfit Acrylic Stand 256 $13.00 $3,328.00
STARLight Button Badge 307 $13.00 $3,991.00
Wandering Jellyfish Book Wallet 240 $41.00 $9,840.00
$17,159.00

Kageyama Shien New Outfit Celebration 2022
Sporty Shien Acrylic Stand 559 $13.00 $7,267.00
Sporty Shien Pin Badge 812 $5.00 $4,060.00
$11,327.00

Arurandeisu New Outfit Celebration 2022
Celebration Merch Complete Set 307 $41.00 $12,587.00
Acrylic Stand 29 $17.00 $493.00
Matching Metallic Key Chain 63 $15.00 $945.00
Pizza-kun Connected Acrylic Charm 100 $10.00 $1,000.00
$15,025.00

>>26507101
We've learnt that nijisanji uses bots

>>26507057

Street food

1 meal in jp > 5-7 $
1 meal in id > 1-2 $

>>26507108
it's pretty sad how nijis can't even compete with holoID
no wonder they're free falling right now

>>26505397
No, don't fall in the cumtards' trap wut their weird ratio cope such as like/CCV views ratio. SCs and views are most if not all the time linked together. Look at Chloe's SCs and look at her usual CCV. Worse than 60% of the other Holomembers yet she's the one who gains the most SCs overall.
However with Salome the CCVs were astoundingly high, yet she made as much money as what would a 5k or less viewers talent would make. Her tourists(a non-substantial amount) said on Twitter and in the comment section that as oldfags fans from Nijisanji it was great to see a fresh new talent that is unironically great to watch, however if they truly meant that, why the fuck don't they donate to her since she deserves it? At the very donate so that she would be more likely to stream in the future... Her situation doesn't make any fucking sense. The bots cope reveals to be more and more of a reality instead as time passes. Yesterday she got only 62k but we cope with the fact that Pekora was overlapping her with 60+k viewers as well, however tonight almost no one besides NijiCN was overlapping her and yet it was even worse than yesterday.

>>26507125
Holy shi– this actually looks amazing. it's more money than I earn in the month

>>26507392
>The bots cope reveals to be more and more of a reality instead as time passes
>>26507392
>NijiCN

Please, try harder. Your shitposting is obvious. Why so retard? Be more subtil.

Botsanji

>>26505725
How can you do my boy Kuzuha dirty like that? At least include his stream where his bot program malfunctioned and he had to delete the stream after getting called out

Viewers =/= donators

>>26507642
NijiCN is NijiCN, seethe about that fact

>>26502637
her tourists never watched other vtubers, there's no SC coming from them

>>26506575
that was the stream when she hit 1m, which is why it got so many SCs

>>26508101
No. NijiCN is VirtualReal.

>>26508121
Tourists from what? Its certainly not Nijisanji, hololive or any other vtubing group. Its as if every time she streams 60k+ completely new people replace the previous ones
Just like bots would

>>26508164

>>26508331
You see, Nijis? Here's someone who knows how to bring evidence instead of just insulting

>>26503579
>mass-botting replies
Typical nijifriend

>>26508331
that was the first game stream after opening monetization

>>26508539
Meaning? The point was to showcase a stream of hers where she got over 5 thousand dollars in superchat donations

>>26508419
repeat retards should be called retarded whenever possible, especially in random catalog threads. this isn't a niji/holo thing either, this is proper 4chan discourse.

Jesus Christ...

>>26508672
she doesn't regularly get 5k+, that's all I'm saying

>>26508539
she's reclining really hard desuwa~

similar

desubot~

>>26508842

ANYCOLOR IPO GRAPH

>>26504935
But anons on /here/ called Holostars a flop, did they lie?

>>26508842


Next stream 100$ desuwa~

I don't understand why this thread is still going when anons have posted examples of popular Vtubers getting little sc and unpopular ones getting a lot

>>26505850
>y-you have to choose one, you can't expose both that's not fair

>>26509114

Why ???

>>26509052
If you really want to know about Holostars, You should go to /Stars/

The next step in the nijicope list will be them saying how she proved herself and that she deserves to be a streamer despite the botting
Screencap this post

>>26509114

50,000-80,000 ccv got sc less than 1,000 $ ??

>>26502637
>>26503002
Bots can't supacha
lol
lmao, even

>>26507001
Good to see some bros supporting their bros in their fes.

>>26506983
So much for the new queen of VTubers, Pekora got back to show Salome that she is merely a dirty peasant

>>26509290

>>26509361
they going to tell you that you can't understand japanese jokes

>>26507101
>Ignoring the army of simps that Luxiem has
Why?

>>26506311
Do you even watch Gura? She has been doing SC readings for way past a year now.

>>26509432
Yes. Just like 100ccv can get more than a thousand dollars and 15k ccv can get like a hundred dollars

>>26509527
Uhh nijizhangjis? What do we do now

>>26509565
They're the exception though, them and some livers like Fuwa. The vast majority get pretty small(relatively) amounts of supas

>>26509527
AAHHHH THE COPE NOOOOOO

>>26509290
Showing that she deserves the title of Queen of the VTubers, not only does she have the CCV and view numbers, but also the wealth...

NIJIKEKS should KNEEL

>>26509720
Okay fair enough anon

>>26502637
Now numberniggers pretend debuff streams and fluctuating income is not a thing.
I swear numberniggers are the most hypocrite two faced lowest cockroaches that ever spawn from this board, and we all know from which shithole they came from.

>>26509946

Holy fuck that is REALLY low for the numbers she usually gets. That is indie numbers.

>>26510003
oh no no no
we need more cope now nijisister

>>26510084
t. never watched an indie

>>26509946
Gura literally couldn't give less shits about superchats when she makes 200k-300k+$ from memberships alone
There is a reason why the zhang fujos get extremely mad when they find out that Gura doesn't need to whore herself for superchats to not starve on the streets

Gonna play devil's advocate here.
Don't niji viewers usually only make massive donations during events?
It's a totally different business format compared to hololive, most of them don't even bother with superchat reading or memberships from what I heard, and if you think about it she's still making ~500 bucks for an hour long stream.
And with Salome things are worse since most of her viewers I bet aren't even from the niji bubble, there must be a bunch of holofags, SEAniggers, EOPs, JOP normalfags, which are similar demographics in the sense that they normally don't donate a single penny.
I think it's a kinda dumb monetization format, they sure lose a lot of potential money, to the point that their approach with NijiEN forcing them to read donos and such is much better.

>>26506910
Kewalski.....

>>26510178
He wasn't attacking Gura, stoopid. He was using her to provide an example

>>26502637
nips prob saving their wad load for a Karaoke / Utawaku

i know them better they dont spend money when the vtuber is not doing what they like

which is Idol activities

>>26503371
>blue women
You mean orange. Both Kiara and Coco have a lot more supas than Gura, Kronii or Kobo. Recently the shark is catching up but she still has ways to go.
Greynames are just not worth much in the end.

>>26510187
>Don't niji viewers usually only make massive donations during events
Yep
>bet aren't even from the niji bubble, there must be a bunch of holofags, SEAniggers, EOPs, JOP normalfags
From the limited info we got, it's not holo/niji fans watching her. It's mostly her own fans

>>26510187
It has already been pointed out that a very popular niji can get less sc than one with not even 1/10 of their viewership
>>26503911
>>26505211

>>26510187
>Don't niji viewers usually only make massive donations during events?

Really ? >>26508942

Nijisis left room

>>26510681
Yes

>>26507001
Hope the Uproar boys get their 3D soon. So far they seem like nice lads.

>>26503579
cope

>Holostars fans engaging in numberwars now
Just when I thought I'd seen it all.

>>26511010
You are retarded if you'd think tribeniggers would care about the Homo's other than cherrypick their numbers just to seethe at other corpo vtuber.

>>26510804

>but not for Salome ......

>>26510837
Probably around Sep to Nov, anon.
>>26511010
>Holostars fans
>outside /stars/
lol
lmao

>>26507001

2,000 seat

>Sold out

>>26511253
Nah I think it's likely since no one likes the zhangs.
If fans of homos behaved like this more often, they'd be more bearable.

>>26511307
Nah, her too. But even then, Leos is the chuuba with one of the highest amounts of sc in a monetization opening stream ever

>>26502637
>Salome is watched by this many but barely gets any money
I wouldn't be surprised if it actually was bots since compared to people with the same number of viewers on Twitch, they should be getting more than $10k every stream

>>26510178
It’s always hilarious seeing people go on about metrics when there are so many metrics we can’t even see per talent, SC being one of the lesser for income

As if there wasn't enough evidence already that it was all mostly bots

>>26511361
imagine believing that starsfags leave /Stars/ lol

It's probably some troll that decided to pull the numbers just to make fun. Starsfags hates Numberfags and Numberwars more than anything

Fucking newfags
Nijisanji doesnt get superchats on normal streams
They get the yearly amount in one or tw streams, that is:
birthday stream
3d reveal
+ salome is tourist central who obviously dont superchat.

botisanji

Does anyone on this board even remember the good old $103.50 memes or are all the shitposters too new

>>26517259
wasn't that because they disabled SCs at the start of the video and that's the scs that game in before they disabled it?

>>26517763
I don't remember, but literally everyone back then knew niji's tourist fans never put out unless it was a 3D debut

>>26505725
what the fuck is this image LMAO

>>26507991
lmao, holobronies ignore this post

>>26509946
Number nuggets are holobronies, this is fact

If you honestly care about how much money a Vtuber makes your a retard plain and simple

>>26513388
Speak for yourself. I am happy Aruran is no longer homeless and can afford furniture.

>>26526092
>>26526131
>>26525584
NIJISEETHE

>>26505144
Holobro don't accept kek

>>26507991
pekora no... not you too...
there really are bots among us....

>>26507991
Holobro kek

Gamma supremacy

>>26503579
>Literal Cope and Seethe

>>26503579
you're so cute, probably believe men can be women too

>>26503579
NIjiseethe.

>>26505689
>bots immune to being culled obviously
culling is when it's actual users not being counted

>>26503579

>>26502637
Bots can't donate

holy fucking shit , these sc made kobo making bank wtf

a worthy screenshots that i can use in future argument :) thanks nijikeks

holy fucking shit , these sc made kobo look like shes making bank wtf

a worthy screenshots that i can use in future argument :) thanks nijikeks