/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2616967
Oh no, hours and hours of nothing content from the corporate mascot is gone? What will people do, go to an entertaining vtuber now?

>>2616967
If you didn't learn to archive everything after the first holocaust, you're a retard who deserves this loss

Obviously. She's graduating.

Why?

Nah, it's just Fubuki graduating.

>>2617068
>ぷちお知らせ
>Small announcement
>Title of the video literally has "I'm happy" in it
No, she's not.

>>2617072
Music permissions provably, all her deleted videos are ones with her doing covers of western music

>>2617126
She's dying happy after a fulfilling life

>>2616967
not, a big deal.

>>2617123
Happy she doesn't have to pretend Cover is a good company anymore.
It's over holobros we got too cocky.

It's not just Fubuki. Matsuri and Haato's stuff is getting deleted as well.

>>2617198
>>2617218
Graduation isn't a "small" announcement. Meds.

Matsuri's EDM shitpost is gone.
Haato's Shape of You is gone.

>>2617270
All of Haato's english covers have been gone for a while

Well, shit, western labels are now going against japanese streamers.
As if. Probably just against hololive, unless any of you can prove me wrong.

>>2617270
>>2617281
Copyright bullshit then?

>>2617287
>western labels going kamikaze, destroying themselves for almost no return
Ironic

If she graduates will it cause a minor shitstorm?

Oh nO, tHiS tAlEnT ViDeO goT mUTeD fOr like oNe SeCOnd, iT's oVer BrOs they All GoNna GrAdUaTe

>>2617365
>minor
Hehehe

>>2617337
>destroying
For as much as people meme hololive, they're a literal startup still hiring people even. The labels can do shit without any consequences. Besides, it's Youtube. They ain't gonna do shit in favour of hololive.

>>2617365
Biggest shitstorm. Sticky-deserving, since she's considered the canary for when hololive turns into a black company.

>>2617227
Haachama can't catch a break...

>>2617337
>destroying themselves
dyrbi

>>2616967
I heard some of the girls are unhappy about their salary.

>Western music makers
"HURR DuuuRRR u using streemas to lizten to ourZ stoofz fur FREEZ!" I find it ironic that Metallica got fucked over for what they started YEARS ago. Now it will bit all the western music fags too later down the road.

>>2617462
Nice fat rrat here boys.

>all this Nigger doom posting
You fucking poorfag. I though you better than that. Fubuki is not graduating. She already showed the news in a member's only stream. Also keep in mind Matsuri and Haachama are also getting videos removed. Hell even Miko itself
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1383057315453018112

>>2617365
>one of the core pillars of hololive quitting
>minor shitstorm
if Fubuki graduates, this board will become unusable for at least a day

>>2617462
By some you mean Anya, right?

>>2617577
I don't think Anya even cares about her salary

>>2617365
>The literal soul and backbone of hololive leaving
>minor shitstorm

>>2617462
I actually heard this too.

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZnIHM2dQvA

>>2617627
What a coincidence! So did I!

>>2617564
Can you give us an overview before more nonsense gets thrown into the center?

>>2616967
Is it Sony labelled music? The past couple of weeks they've been going on a copyright strike spree

>>2617569
I would be betting on it being unusable for at least a week at the very least.

>>2617564
Sorry, eleven bro. What's the news? Is she marrying Norio?

>>2617657
>RCA Records is an American record label owned by Sony Music Entertainment, a subsidiary of Sony Corporation of America.
Goddamn Snoy

>>2617462
I heard some of them were expecting a better bonus.

>>2617724
I, too, have heard of this!

>>2617724
>some of them were expecting a better bonus
Later gens, probably. Didn't Festival talk about how she expected needing to pay for streaming when she first joined?

>>2617462
Their pay is based on how good of an entertainer they are. Just like how Hollywood AAA stars or big singers command the big bucks while the low rent ones work a second job or work out of their garage, vtubers make money depending on their popularity. Sucks to be them.

>>2617775
My uncle works at HoguchiLive and confirms.

>>2617577
>Anya
>caring about money at all
Anon the girl eats only toast and plays games on a thinkpad.

>>2617782
damn these entitled younguns

>>2617871
Based Blade of Frugality.

>>2617643
It's just video with Western song are getting deleted. It's probably another cover retarded decision since they are nips. I mean we talking about sega who think steam database are place for pirating game

Copyright laws were a mistake

>>2617871
Kek

Sony going to war with Japan?

>>2617123
There is only one logical explanation: she's pregnant.

>>2617796
bro your uncle works in Cover too? that´s awesome!

>>2617935
All works belong to Allah

>>2617016
Kill yourself faggot lmao.

Dont open

>>2617954
My bad, I use wrong rubber size that day.

>>2618015

Shubahannallah Brada

kys with the schizo posts about FBK's announcment

>>2616967
>>2617068
She was hired to work for another company

One of the payroll people told me the girls are trying to unionize.

>>2617365
>minor

Why have an oshi when they're just going to leave you.

>>2617126
same happened with haachama on her break, schizos screamed that it was proof of her graduation as well lol

>>2618656
It's me, I am the payroll people.

ENTER

Reminder to ignore narratives

>>2618843
Kinda thicc tho.

>>2618843
Gone too far.

>>2618855
Reminder that Fubuki's graduation is imminent and that she's going to resume her career of moaning for shitty smut VNs

>>2618940
Hot

Friendo hasn't been doing much lately since she hit the 1mil goal mark. Think she's burned out?

When you cover a song and release it on CD, you're supposed to send a percentage to the rights holders. It's nowhere near as much as your record label gets selling music (thus why Taylor Swift and others are re-recoding their music independently.) The rights holders are probably sniffing around this new Vtuber thing if not already in their dragnet of DMCAing people covering their songs. That fucking Chug Jug song uses a BGM from a Will.i.am song and gets picked up immediately.

>>2619041
>literal shitposts
>cover

>>2617365
>minor
it will make the taiwan triggered insect swarm seem like child's play. Cover would be ruined.

it's simple, we kill the RIAA

>>2617016
Fubuki is the only good holo though

>>2616967
It's not forever lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE81R2UIQ1w

>>2617462
>I heard some of the girls are unhappy about their salary
Can’t some just leave for vshojo or some other group if they are unhappy? I don’t know, just asking.

>>2619406
Do YOU want to leave your cushy job for prostitution?

>>2619214
While I would love for that to be true, that's a massive overexaggeration. You place way too much faith in people following through.

>>2619449
i mean it'd make me feel beautiful, if only for a few minutes

>>2619449
>Do YOU want to leave your cushy job for prostitution?
Prostitution pays good, so I don’t know.

>>2617607
that's not Miko

>>2619632
lol

>>2619449
they are whores anon, what do you think?

>>2619504
If Fubuki left Hololive in a hostile faction that would be a massive blow for Cover. She's the glue holding a lot of the talents together (especially the older generations) and is the face of Hololive for many.
When unhappiness about Cover is high she's the one who defuses it, if she goes it would start a spiral of disillusionment.
Plus if something bad happens to make her leave its likely it would affect other members too.

>>2617365
>>2617390
>>2617401
>>2617569
>>2617607
>>2618663
>>2619214
But Fubuki isn't Pekora? She can be replaced

>>2619297
The thing i AM gonna miss are the comments in all that shit There were some good ones, it feels like a part of YouTube history has die :(

>>2616967
I remember when I first got into Hololive that Fubuki was the biggest player by far, followed only by Aqua (who was laggin way behind), and nobody else came close.
Nowadays Fubuki is basically irrelevant, nobody really talks about her with the respect they used to have. Nobody considers her "the leader" anymore.
I'll never forget that after spending so much time being the number 1, she got cucked on the race to one million by shork on her first month kek.

>>2619881
Pekora would be a bigger hit financially but Cover is doing very well on money, they can take hits there.
Fubuki would hit them where they're weak.

I wish Cover would understand 70% of their audience is mentally unstable or straight up autistic or schizoid, so that they would tell their talents to stop announcing these sort of things like this, with cryptic "Very Important Announcement (in 10 hours teehee)" videos.
People near had an aneurysm when Ina did the "we need to tako" video. Achan getto a grippu purisu.

>>2620018
at least Fubuki's announcement is pretty clear for anyone who can read some Japanese (or use Google Translate on the title...)

>>2619881
at this point, youtube is like 25% of fubuki's job. her media presence is way beyond that.

>>2619881
Pekora brings in money, sure, but Fubuki is more important to Hololive than anything like money.

>>2620116
>Happy announcement!
>I got a new job as a voice actress and I'm moving on!

>>2617052
>80% of anon's hard drive is filled with video content he'll never watch

>>2620199
Sora was a VA in an anime series that had two seasons and didn't graduate

>>2620179
Yeah people don't see the "intangibles" of fubuki presence

>>2620202
he might learn japanese eventually.

>>2616967
Oh no

>>2620202
>Content he is never watching, but saves incase of another holocaust so he can brag to other anons that he has them saved when he could just lie about it.
Ftfy

>>2620199
based fubuking

Roboco and Subaru would not stream over Fubuki's graduation announcement holy fuck you people are retarded

Yes, i'll be marrying Fubuki. Sorry, bros.

>>2620339
You've got your head up your ass if you actually think 50% of holos wouldn't leave the second fubuki does.

>>2619072
Companies have DMCA'd people over less.

>>2619881
FBK is probably the only person holding hololive together. Most Cover staff is sitcom-tier incompetent and all the girls bar three or four are reclusive aspies and would rather be shot in the leg than start a converstaion.
I hope she gets three times the salary because she directly saved at least three people from actual graduation, Mio, Flare and Coco. Last time putting her channel in risk of deletion.

>>2620378
what if they like money?

fubuki on twitch too maybe

>>2620434
Yeah, Coco was kinda becoming a new Fubuki in that regard before the Taiwan shitshow. She still tries, but she got kneecapped by that and shitty management.

>>2620453
The rats will leave a sinking ship even if there's still some food in it.

>>2619967
>>2620149
>>2620179
>>2620434
Not that I'm doubting you, but how do you guys know this? How is she this important to Cover? Isn't some of that, like the girls being recluses, just part of the act to make them more relatable to their audience?

>>2620574
Fubuki and Sora may not be the most popular Holomen, but they represent the soul of Hololive.

I've seen Fubuki and Sora compared to the Emperor of Japan, or the Queen of England.

Even hololive EN streamers seem unhappy with enma. Hololive should just give them all a little more freedom, and work out the issues the JP girls have. It cannot be too big of a deal.

>>2620574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekHJb03tzQ4&t=3403s
It has English captions.

>>2620731
Didn't ame call her an idiot on twitter recently

>>2620731
I love Holo EN but Enma is also the reason none of them can collab with Coco. Even if Coco is thee reason they exist at all, Enma doesn't want any part of the Taiwan drama.

stop replying to yourselves

>>2620811
She literally called her a whore in the last members stream

>>2620920
Clip or didn't happen

>>2620434
The other 2 I can understand but Flare?

https://youtu.be/pFgUluV_00s

FUBUKI LOVE

>>2620811
Because she forgot to pay for the renewal of the Minecraft realm not because of something actually malicious and they are taking this opportunity to negotiate for an actual server that can connect to HoloJP's server

>>2620434
>because she directly saved at least three people from actual graduation, Mio, Flare and Coco.
I missed Mio and Flare. What happened there?

>>2620731
EN has a dozen staff people, "enma" the korean girl is one of many and she's middle management at best and EN's tard wrangler at worst.
She doesnt get to decide who collabs with whom either, thats Cover. Cover would have you believe their management is clutzy cute girls doing their best because its harder to be mad at the 10 million dollar management agency when the online representative is A-chan the glasses fujoshi and not Takuya the balding MBA.

>>2620731
Why do globalfaggots feel the need to bring up Enma in every fucking thread?

>>2618050
the store was all out of extra small?

>>2621099
and to certain extend she saved towa too

>>2621169
Sounds right. I am still curious about Flare though. (Also Mio)

>>2620838
>Coco is thee reason they exist at all
That’s what gets me. I mean Coco is PERFECT for a collab with EN because of her good English, and she is to be credited for them too, so whatever backlash if any pales in comparison to the amount of joy they would all have together, and the amount of good she has already done. Obviously there is more going on though.
The end of this video from that other thread is interesting insight to how they feel: https://streamable.com/a3icxw

>>2621056
Imagine being such a zoomer retard that you don't even know how servers work.

>>2619621

>>2621431
What are you talking about, friend? What part of his post triggered you?

>>2621219
For all the shit I see people give Kiara, when it comes to actually telling people what's actually going on, it's always her.

>>2620434
Ok zhang.

>>2620838
Enma doesn't have sole control of EN, you rrat huffing faggot.

>>2621431
You can't connect Realms to other servers (like the JP server does with the resource server). They have to host their own with plugins. No idea if the "connect to JP" part is true or not.

>>2621659
>For all the shit I see people give Kiara, when it comes to actually telling people what's actually going on, it's always her.
That’s why I’m worried about her. If she suddenly disappears, we’ll all know why.

>>2621219
I honestly think that as much as they worry about the chinks spamming in chat if they do go ahead with the collab with Coco, they're probably just as worried about the dumbasses that will engage on the western side. People have stopped being Internet savy and have been groomed to think that yelling the loudest is the best option instead of laughing at retarded shit. At this point, they basically are in a tough spot.

>>2617871
thinkpad? uooohh shes just like me.

>>2619011
she got promoted.

>>2619744
i think suisei could probably take over fubukis role.

>>2619011
Aqua hasn't done shit but playing Apex since she reached 1m what are you on about

>>2622691
No

>>2622460
are you the tako bathtub guy?

>>2620767
>August 1st
>before the Taiwan thing
>she literally dropped billi and half her earnings when the chinese gave her an ultimatum
Friend!

>>2616967
i feel totally comfortable and like i'm not missing anything by ignoring fubuki's existence for months.

>>2623007
tako? i dont care for any of HoloEn. i think they should all graduate.

>>2622691
no, suisei is in her own music related projects and killing it <3

>>2623068
Clearly you do care if you wish for them to graduate.

Fubuki's actually who Norio-sensei married

>>2623248
I called it >>2617703

>>2619881
>She can be replaced
Everyone can, welcome to popular entertainment industry anon.

>>2617365
It depends. If she was forced then hololive will not exist in 6 months. If it is voluntary then things might be fine for at least a year.

>>2623391
>4 AIs
>Gamebu
Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that.

>>2617569
It won't be usable ever again depending on how she graduates.

>>2620202
Zoomer hands typed this

>>2620995
I recall her calling black people gorillas but that only happened a few weeks ago.

>>2622775
That doesn't mean anything you fucking ESL. Never fucking (you) me again.

>>2619923
she wasn't even the first jp holo to reach 1M

>>2623391
Rockstar hasn't replaced Dan Houser so they can't make new a new gta or rdr. They're stuck reselling gta 5 every new gen like skyrim.

>>2623391
Objectively false, even the false rumor of that decimated Kizuna Ai. Imagine if it was real.

>>2617462
Isn't their baseline salary low and most of what they make is from merch, memberships, and SC?

>>2616967
>only scatman
cover pls kill this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZnIHM2dQvA

>>2623445
>>2623559
I will, anyone can be replaced, impact will be greater or smaller and will last more or less, but the industry itself won't fall because of it.
The only thing that can destroy it is time and technology development. Think about how television is being replaced with streamers, vloggers, chuubas, internet and the such.

>>2623627
>the industry itself won't fall because of it
No shit the industry won't fall, but hololive will. The gamebu thing killed gamebu. The 4 AIs rumour killed AIs growth and contirbuted tot he fall of upd8.

>>2623691
Fubuki isn't Hololive anymore. Most of her deadsubs have moved to other Holomembers.

>>2623750
As much as I'd like to believe you, I think what will happen in that case is >>2623436

>>2623586
Their salary is pretty good specially for the older members

>>2623627
>anyone can be replaced
Would be weird if Kiara was replaced by a similar voice actress, but had to pretend she was the same person who was friends with Calli. Lol.

>>2623436
Meds

>>2623881
I really don't see a reason to force Fubuki out. If it's an actual graduation (and not making a big deal out of it is something she might pull) it's going to be voluntary.

She's delivering Roberu's child and will be going on maternity leave (vacation) Video removal is just a coincidence.

Newfags are so easy to bait

>>2623978
>graduation
You’re fired! Tell them it’s a volunteer graduation and you are happy with everything. Okay... will do.

Fubuki got the 'rona.

>>2617365
> The one who not kneel to insect anti for friendship even cut half her income
> minor

This will be final yab for Cover

>>2621099
I already got banned this week for saying Mori has fat tits so I sincerely dont know how much I can type here without getting banned again, because it requires some old-ish lore. This post is missing some info but its heavily IRL stuff so im only gonna type the very basic, publicly availiable stuff.
Mio and FBK have been friends since FBK was in anime girl highschool, the most common narrative is that they went to HS together and there's enough proof for me to believe this. Oka and Koro are online (i think) friends of Miosha. All of them were already NND streamers, like a majority of hololive. This shouldnt be a surprise because more than half of hololive already knew of eachother before they debuted, including the hilarious bit of Pe-san joining hololive not a year after Aqua did and having her official age as 111.
Its pretty hard to imagine now but Cover was not in the best place in Gen2, Niji was (and is) dominating the JP market and Cover really didnt know what the fuck to do to get out of the red. They had this idea of themed gens to help cohesion and branding, this brought Fantasy, later Myth, and probably a dozen others that we'll never see. One of the pitched ideas was "asian mythos". Nekomatas, Inugamis, the like.
They also wanted to try out Niji's 3-people generations. So they mixed the two, and made "Gamers".
Also hololive was supposed to be a pure idol company, as in *only* triple threat idols that also played games, all Soras and Suiseis. Gamers was supposed to be the generation to follow on Niji's and Kizuna2's footsteps and stream games.

But the central point here is that Gamers are FBK's friends, people that either asked FBK to be hired and she sort of strongarmed the hiring process for her friends; or people that she personally thought would be good for the gen and recommended them to the managers. Depends on how cynical you want to be but probably a mix of both because as you know Mio doesnt play games at all and Korone and Okayu are only interested in games 15 years old at the minimum. Like a week from launch, there was no difference between Mio and Ayame in gaming proficiency and she was 33% of the gen. Gamers was primed to be a complete disaster in Cover's most vulnerable moment.
At probably the last moment, Fubuki offered/demanded to be in Gamers too because, by divine intervention, her name is ShiraKAMI and she's a fox, fitting the Gamers' theme. Fubuki promoted the shit out of Gamers, Fubuki spammed collabs, Fubuki made SENPAITACHI to play with Mio when Okakoro predictably made her the third wheel, Fubuki personally invited Mio to every collab she could fit. In a time where Mio was getting shit for views and 50k subs was considered massive for a vtuber, and through all her hiatuses and suspensions, FBK as supported Mio the most out of everyone in hololive.
Im not exaggerating at all when I say Mio would've graduated after a year if Fubuki wasnt in hololive to make SENPAITACHI and hang out with her. Gamers is pretty much only Okakoro and Mio was already getting low views, hololive isnt even her only job so she has 100% considered especially in the first three months.

As extended Gamers lore, Botan was supposed to be the fifth member (Shishi are the chinese temple lions), but Aloe retired and they couldnt cripple holofive further. Informally incorporated with the OKBR-SENPAITACHI split.

>>2620995
Not as elaborate but the same story. Flare was not popular at all when she started, same as Mio. The Noel-Flare yuribait didnt really stick at first, Pekora and Marine stole the spotlight HARD and she's never had Rushia's borderline cult following of GFE goslings.
Fubuki invited Flare to play like she did Mio, pushed her important dates on her stream,... Ended up making (forcing?) the bakatare group with Watame and Flare while spamming collabs with the struggling 4th gens.
She does this a lot, she's never been scared to collab with struggling holos, she even collabs with Holostars when its known people loathe collabs with men, she's like a reverse leech. A views donor.

>inb4 rrat, meds, schizo
Only the parts that I explicitly said Im not sure about are personal narratives, like Okakoro being online friends. I dont believe the "Mio met them at the arcade" wattpad-tier narrative, Im sorry.
The rest is as factual and true as Ayame blowing her streaming career to League or Rushia being cheated on.

>>2624528
Didnt read but good luck with that

>>2624528
Sorry that happened.

>>2624528
>and she's never had Rushia's borderline cult following of GFE goslings.

her viewers were significantly lower but she had like 99% members and still got a lot of SC. Now she still has a high member ratio but is pulling 9-10k viewers.

>>2624528

>>2624528
As long as people like you are here this board has hope, good post, friend.

>>2624528

>>2624528
>Literally carrying struggle streamers on her back until they get a good footing
Based friend.

>western entertainment shooting itself in the foot for no real benefit.

Not surprising. Wonder why it didn't happen sooner when vtubing was booming last year. Even hardheaded Nintendo when they used to have to make you go through them to get paid to play their games has let up.

GAMERS 2 IKUZOOO!
a cheetah, a panther, a serval and Fubuki again but as Kurokami cant wait, Cover pls

>>2621659
That's why I love her, during Aki's holotalk at the end, she took a jab at how shitty their merchandise has been.

You need a loudmouth like her in every gen IMO, someone that refuses to accept the shit shoveled down their throat, take Gura for example she's their top dog and could easily demand things for a better viewer experience(better rigging for starters) but she won't cause she's a giant aspie introvert.

>>2624528
We are truly blessed to have someone as dedicated to Hololive as FBKing

>>2619632
I know. We're talking about Fubuki

>>2624528
There are so many stories about hololive that I never knew.
Is there anywhere besides the archives that you'd recommend looking to read up on the lore?

>>2624528
Kinda wish stories like this could go public to show just how much the girls support each other, but I can understand why you wouldn't want things like this revealed to everyone

>>2625979
I don't think anyone has compiled the history of hololive. Or any other company.

>>2624528
Legend of Fubuki

>>2624528
Hot damn. Hard-working FBK. Wish them the best. Thanks for the lore.

>>2624528
FubuMio supremacy

>>2623586
Yes, Suisei was talking about it when she was demonetized for a month.

>>2620286
Friend no...

>>2624528
Really makes you wonder what the sorta shape hololive would be in without Fubuki or it would even exist at all
Like, lets not forget Fubuki was one of the first holos to court the EOP audience, hololive being as popular in the west as it is significantly because of her

>>2626168
People have definitley compiled the history of other companies lol. But its not unexpected that it hasn't happened for hololive yet in any sort of grand form.
Sounds like a fun project though. I'm relatively new to things so I'm probably not the guy to do it, but I'd love to see a comprehensive archive one day.

>>2621659
Kiara is a rude person which can often be bad but does have benefits since it means she'll reveal things in a less filtered manner.

>>2620227
What anime?

>>2626436
even though suisei is gen 0?

>>2625120
There's a difference between Coco-loudmouth and Kiara-loudmouth, though. I'm not one of the schizos who thinks Kiara is evil or some shit, but there's a difference. Be a Coco, not a Kiara.

>>2626677
Gen 0 doesn't signify join time. She only joined holo a month before gen 4 debuted, and joined Cover 8 or 9 months before then

>>2626607
It's hard being the only European in the group.

>>2624528
I read this whole post.

>>2617365
She's stated that if Cover ever became a black company she'd quit right away. Even if she seems okay about it and states it has nothing to do with how Cover is managed, it'll still hurt the companies image.

>>2623456
Forcibly and in reluctant tears.

I don't like to think about how good of a person Fubuki is because it is difficult to wrap my head around that someone can be that nice and benevolent. Even though I know it is true by this point it can still be hard to believe when I think about it.

>>2626873
She got noticably pissed off at Korone when she had to come in and save her debut though. She's nice, but not a saint.

>>2626660
Watanuki-san Chi no

>>2624528
>Also hololive was supposed to be a pure idol company, as in *only* triple threat idols that also played games, all Soras and Suiseis.
Anti idolfags BTFO

>>2624528
The amount of newfags responding to this common knowledge like it's new is fucking sad. Isn't anyone here from the original /jp/ threads? How many reddit immigrants make up this board?

>>2627127
You're living on a subreddit, anon.

>>2627106
Turns out idols don't bring the bacon quite as much as autists and memelords chuubas.

>>2627127
>Isn't anyone here from the original /jp/ threads?
I've been watching chuubas since the original very early ai era. /jp/ is a shithole so I never once bothered to open the threads since I already had a bunch other shithole threads I was active in I didn't want to bother. Didn't want to deal with sort of autism that comes from a place from /jp/ since it'd more like kill my enjoyment of shit.

>>2622352
>they're probably just as worried about the dumbasses that will engage on the western side
I think for all the stupid shit the China brigade has done, a lot here have forgotten that there are plenty of people on the west who are more than willing to make vtubers their next battlefield in the ongoing culture war. I'm pretty sure people have forgotten that Brittany Venti attempted to smear Gura for being for pedophiles when she debuted, and thankfully due to her being a Literal Who it never went anywhere.

I get hating Enma for blocking Coco, but people are acting like it's because she personally has something against her, but preventing grifters from trying to basically use every one of their talents as ammo. I'm pretty sure that they no longer really need to worry about that since the western side has more or less moved on to whatever people are screeching about on twitter now.

my own rrat is that they are truly planning something big and are pinning the blame on management so no hate goes to the talents though

>>2616967
Why should I care though? Did she step up and help Haachama when Haachama was in trouble?

>>2627346
Yes.

>>2626607
She's not rude, she's German

i bet nijiniggers are behind this

>>2627346
Fubuki is the reason Coco is still in Hololive. If she had sided with the chinese branch Coco would be gone and this thread 2616967 would be about the Civia-Ollie collab next Tuesday. She cut in half her subscribers and income to save Coco.
Haachama was never in trouble, the chinese explicitly said they didnt want anything to do with her, Cover banned both of them because they needed to pretend they were being banned for showing stats on stream, not as a hail mary to make spammers leave.

>>2627456
No. Chammers went a whole month without any help.

>>2624528
There's a lot of warped bullshit in that post but what you wrote about Flare bothers me most.
>Flare was not popular at all when she started
That was mostly caused by rigging but that didn't stop her to cultivate a loyal fanbase.
>Pekora and Marine stole the spotlight HARD
Pekora was underdog and didn't become super popular until summer 2020 after her MGS streams. By that time Flare already had established fanbase.
>she's never had Rushia's borderline cult following of GFE goslings
Absolutely wrong. Elfriends are and were probably the or at least one of the most cultish fanbase in Hololive.
>ended up making (forcing?) the bakatare group
FBK didn't do anything. Bakatare was created because Flare got too drunk on stream and FBK was online so she grabbed Watame and invaded the stream, prevented yab and since they got along the group stayed.

>>2627607
Fubuki only did that for Coco. What did fubuki do during the Haachama shizo arc ban? Nothing. Fucking nothing. Haachama needed to fix that shit herself. Fuck off fubikifags.

>>2627618
>That was mostly caused by rigging but that didn't stop her to cultivate a loyal fanbase.
I miss her first model... It was so cute and sexy... Her other ones are rigged better but it isn't the same.

>>2627640
>what did fubuki do when cover banned haachama to cover for coco
Rescue Coco. Haachama was never spammed, stop trying to change narratives if you were never there. The biggest hole in Cover's own cover story was NGA's statement that they never wanted anything to do with Haato, they were only spamming Coco and would continue to spam her after the hiatus was over and until she was fired because they made a majority of hololive's fanbase.
Haato was collateral damage of Cover's diplomatic lie. If they had had to admit they were banning Coco because of chink antis they wouldnt have banned Haato at all.
Stop getting your hololive news from r*ddit threads. If you werent there you werent there.

>>2627610
Do you ever see Chama SC stream?
Retard

T. Haaton tier2

>>2627728
The fuck are you talking about dumbass? I said the schizo arc ban. Try reading retard.

>>2627607
Haachama was attacked by chink too
She was attacked and spammed in Twitter and Youtube but due to lack of power of Chink antis cause focus only Coco afterward.

T. Haston tier2

>>2627828
>hastion

>>2627838
A and s are near sorry about that

>>2624528
I'm trying to make sense of this timeline, Holo Gamers was set to launch with 3, but Fubuki delayed Okayu and Korone after forcing her way in because she knew Mio was the weakest link and needed all the help she could get?

>>2627127
It's come to the point where a lot of webms I made are posted here or on /wsg/ as "classics"

>>2627792
Let me clear this ! Haachama never need help in the first place ! She just rest , singging lesson , sick with cold , holiday with her family and she told about hololive members talked and support her at that time !

So shut the fuck up and see Chama streamin future.

Proof : Chama Superchat time

T. Haaton tier2

>>2627728
Never got spammed my ass ! Chink spammed Chama mid October - November with Fubuki and Coco

Do you really trust NGA statement as proof?

>>2627993
you literally have to go back

>>2628026
No , this time some faggot bring Chama to harm Fubuki. I can not blind about it

>>2627618
>she wasnt popular because of x, y, z reasons
I know why she wasnt popular and I know why she's not particularly popular now. There's also many reasons Miosha wasnt and isnt popular.
Im saying she wasnt popular, not that she wasnt popular because she was a bad streamer.
>Pekora was the underdog
I dont know where you're getting this from. Pekora was 10k in July, Flare was 5k in August 2019. These are their initial numbers.
Also in summer 2020 Pekora had 500k already. Flare got 500k like two months ago. This is not a personal attack on Flare or a hidden praise of Pekora, its a hard numbers statement.
Flare was and is the smallest of her gen.
>Elfriends are and were probably the or at least one of the most cultish fanbase in Hololive.
This is subjective so I cant tell you you're wrong but I hope you understand where Im coming from where I say fandead are several times more focused and loyal.
>Bakatare was created because Flare got too drunk on stream and FBK was online so she grabbed Watame
The overcooked streams, actually. If you want to be extra pedantic about it, they only did the overcooked stream because FBK called them to cover Halloween until morning but they never got around to it until September 2020 I think.
I dont really know where Flare's drunk stream invasion fits but if its after the first overcooked stream bakatare was already in place.

>>2624528
Great work FBK. brought amazing new members and kept the old ones in the game, believing in hololive until it became a huge success.

I will buy her a burger one day

>>2627906
Gamers wasnt set to launch with Fantasy, it launched 3 months before. I dont think it was delayed at any point but I dont have that information.

>>2628205
By 3 I meant 3 people and by delay I mean the 4 month head start Mio got on the other two.
>Like a week from launch, there was no difference between Mio and Ayame in gaming proficiency and she was 33% of the gen

>>2627618
>FBK didn't do anything... prevented yab

Contradicted yourself here, anon. And saying Pekora wasn't big until Summer 2020 is wildly off. Her trajectory the entire year was like a rocket.

>>2620695
The comparison goes that Sora is the Emperor while Fubuki is the Shogun. If you know anything about history you will know exactly what that means.

>>2627993
>nothing
>when she privated all of her shizo arc and HoloEN2.0 arc
>nothing
Did she explain that too or are you literally doing this to only defend fubuki? fuck off fake haaton.

>>2627993
>>2628067
Your English skills are deteriorating, turn off the computer and take a deep breath.

>>2628450
The former is a figurehead while the latter gets shit done?

>>2628354
Coco was like a rocket before shit happened. Pekora's surge did not happen the "entire" year.

>>2628074
>these are their initial numbers
Yeah, but Pekora also had 110 boost. Also obligatory "subs matters"
>Also in summer 2020 Pekora had 500k already
Yes? I literally said she got super popular after her MGS streams which were in April/May then her popularity skyrocketed. Before that? Not so much.
>>2628354
Read the original line dude. Bakatare wasn't something what FBK directly made or forced but literally an accident.

>>2627127
This is a place where if you've been watching vtubers for more than six months you're an oldfag

>>2628564
Exactly

This thread is solid proof cover is on thin ice. No more rrats about yagoo being a savior allowed after this. No more best girl reddit shit either/vt/ needs to admit its talent first.

Do you guys... read descriptions?

>I'm Fubuki Shirakami, a member of Hololive.

>I'm happy to report that I've been working on this project.


>===========================
>Hololive's 1st year students' 3rd anniversary live 「from 1st」
May 28, 2021 (Friday)
It will be held at "EX THEATER ROPPONGI" on Friday, May 28th, 2021.

>>2628503
> some fucker report Chama about "self harm" and new rules about " dark joke"
> complain about Fubuki not save Chama

Do you ever see Chama SC or member stream ?

>>2628844
reddit is the only one pushing that shit. Not even in the global thread do people believe in Cover. They believe in the talents.

>>2623484
based

>>2628844
Literally noone but newfags or clueless morons believes in Cover.

>>2616967
what happened with the video lol

>>2628972

>>2620920
Are "members stream" this weird parallel world where people can say the girls fucked a guy on stream and have others believe them because they can't really verify it without paying?

>>2621110
>Takuya
Who is that?

>>2620838
who the fuck is enma?

>>2629303
probably some holoEn related trash.
who cares.

>>2629303
Manager for HoloEn

i dont think pekora is leaving anytime soon as she is literally living her golden era / prime

>>2620838
I will never forgive EnMa for this
https://youtu.be/s3WDGSKvukE

>>2617337
The entire west operates at a loss just to humiliate it's citizenry and see their expression change. Literally the worst places on planet earth.

>>2629421
It took a whole month for retards in /hlgg/ to finally shift the blame from Gura

>>2617126
Coves fall under fair use.

>>2616967
https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=Y1So82y91Yw

>>2629526
You get your legal advice from facebook, don't you?

>>2629526
no

>>2628976
>b-but nothing happened
Time to move the goalposts even more. Pathetic.

>>2629506
Hopefully someday we will get to see the bromies play Smash Kart 51.

The fact you faggots are back to arguing about literally nothing now after all the doomposting before is a good sign everything is going fine.

>>2619923
> cucked by shork
What is it with vtubers and attracting the most autistic people imaginable

>Boogey Voxx making a song about how record labels need to go suck a dick.

You were warned.

>>2629303
Bitch holding a gun to Coco's head.

>>2629324
>who cares
Everyone but you anon.

>>2629715
>the most autistic people
Oh, how I wish I could be as innocent as you.

>>2617577
>mention anya
The least girls that doesnt cares about money

>>2627127
>How many reddit immigrants make up this board?
those are the gura and holoEN fans mostly
theres plenty of "oldfags" that are just late into this

>>2629715
>What is it with vtubers and attracting the most autistic people imaginable
Because you have to be different to like Vtubers.

>>2629656
Give it 39 mins or so

>>2627993
based haaton

>>2627792
nta but Haachama voluntarily decided to take a break, there is nothing that Fubuki could have done other than try and convince her to come back.

The title was changed to the size of her family increasing.

>>2617068
Well, i can finally stop watching chuubas if this happens. Blessed friend curing me from addiction as her final act.

>>2631515
So she's pregnant?

So she adopted cat?

>>2631685
See >>2617703

I can't believe she's having a baby

>>2631685
Yeah sorry guys it's mine.

>>2631768
You fucked her cat?

Stream is on retards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDQdwG7DwbQ

Why was her message retracted??

koron... your father issues...

She adopted a rrat and will promptly kill it

Watching this stream but just remembered I don't speak japanese.

Holy fuck she actually is pregnant

>>2632034
I'm just waiting for the ocasional translator

Wait, is she maybe diverting attention to the fact that all ENs are busy with something? Even Kiara was annoyed to have so many SCs today.

>>2632080
meds

so???????? nothing happened retards

God i wish fubuki would piss on me.

>>2632149

welcome to /vt/

>>2632149
how new?

>>2632149
we are in the vt board

Vretards tautist

>>2632149
>nothing happened retards
Fubuki is being cute

ia m still sad

This motherfucker

>Literally says in stream title it's a happy announcement
>schizos think its graduation anyways
>kek

>>2631711
congratulations anon, you got it, here's your (you)

New family member!!!

No rrat, only cat.

>>2632279
Quick. Dox friend by the reflection in the cat's eye

>>2632279
I think that is her original cat Leo but the cat she is getting now is his little brother

>>2632279
>someone is going to track her down from the eye reflection
Graduation really is inevitable after all...

All right sperglords, come forward and be counted. Admit to all of us how wrong you were, take your meds, then go to bed.

A fucking cat KEK

>>2632279
i rather get cucked by a cat

>>2632335
I was >>2617703

Thanks for the thread newfags and schizos, was a great entertainment while waiting for the stream.

Its fun watching the two translators in chat put out different information

CUTE

>>2632335
Don't be a wet blanket. It's more fun to play along and freak out

>>2632279
Oh Fubuki fuck off, don't do that shit to us.

[minor correction] This is the NEW family member

>>2627618
I'm glad someone else autistically did this because reading parts of this I was tempted to go through it all line by line clearing up the ridiculous amount of wanking this guy gave fubuki for no reason

How many cats is that now?

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME I STAYED UP JUST FOR THIS IM GONNA KILL THA TFUCKIN CAT AND SEND ITS MANGLED REMAINS BACCK TO FUBUKI

>new pet
called it

Schizobros.... wasn't she supposed to be graduating and be happy from leaving that black company...??

>>2632528
She has Leo and this one is Leo's younger brother. She said something about 4 before but i think it refers to fur color

>>2632573
>>2632546
I kneel Holobros, you were right all this time, we surrender

She got cucked out of the norio marriage by a cat

>got another cat
Someone please marry this fox before she gets another.

>>2627618
>That was mostly caused by rigging but that didn't stop her to cultivate a loyal fanbase.

She cultivate her fanbase in NND, her fans just moved to youtube, to this day she is still unpopular as fuck if you compare her to her own gen

>Pekora was underdog and didn't become super popular until summer 2020 after her MGS streams. By that time Flare already had established fanbase.

Like I said, her fanbase just moved from NND

>Absolutely wrong. Elfriends are and were probably the or at least one of the most cultish fanbase in Hololive.

This is true, Flare is one of the holos with the most powerful GFE, so strong that she have trapped men for over 5 years in her variety stream back in NND

Haven't seen it yet but I'm guessing it was a small troll on her part what with Norio-sensei's recent marriage right

>>2633983
she got a new cat, her 5th one.
>mfw her house must smell like cat shit and pee

>>2634033
i remember when i was a cat person. never again.

>>2634070
Absolute maximum of 3 cats, any more than 2 and the odds of one of those fucking things going rouge and pissing in your closet or clothes hamper is extremely high.

>>2617365
If she ever graduates I will graduate from chuubas.

>>2633300
OK I'll do it, I'm not afraid

>>2632511
>that face
>pic related

>>2627127
Why the fuck do you except people into hololive outside of main thread?

>>2632511

That's a fucking beautiful cat.

>>2633545
>This is true, Flare is one of the holos with the most powerful GFE, so strong that she have trapped men for over 5 years in her variety stream back in NND
You don't see many vocal Elfriends here. Has anyone managed to make it past the language barrier and return? What's the experience like?

>>2627054
>>2626873

FBK wasn't the one getting pissed at all, that was Mio because it was her role back then, she's been the tsukkomi until Subaru turned out to do it much better so she's another Okayun now just going with the flow being a good mama approving of almost everything.

What FBK got nervous about in that stream was Mr. Koro fucking up her settings to the point that discord popped up. Revealing a certain Yama...something, look it up. Some early manager. And her gen chatting her as well without those chatting being aware of that.

But, then again, you know how all of them were experienced NNDers earlier?
I'm still not sure if Mr. Koros first stream was genuine or scripted. Okayuns was way too professional, and maybe they wanted to sell yin and yang? Maybe they wanted to do something crazy for once? Generate buzz with a trainwreck? Or was Mr. Koro genuinely retarded back there?

We'll never know.

>>2636938
no GFE at all, really.
I've followed her since the start since her first stream she was foul-mouthed, natural, seemed a bit older and her voice was very much different than the cutesy shit they usually throw at you. Went on to play stuff like DMC and Bayonetta a lot but back then all eyes were on BOOBA, Noel was the first to break 100k and almost instantly (~92k after first stream). Marine and Rushia followed suit, Rushia being the loliconbait experience (dunno when she snapped, she was very chill and cute until her 3D and then some). Flare just was kinda there, doing her thing. Nobody knew she'd be good at Minecraft in the future. She was also quite shy and VERY honest. She bawled her eyes out when Korone (!) invited her over, she broke 50k while they played Goemon and Korone even had a present for her - that friendship I miss a lot btw, Flare was getting known for long streams, she was the first candidate for Koro 2.

NoeFure was not a thing until Marine opened up Gen3 Cabaret and tons of low tone enjoyers fell for Flares masculine voice, the rest of Gen3 was positively wet. That's when Oneesan-Gumi started and they got drunk together, always very enjoyable flowing some well deserved subs into Flare. God knows what happened after those streams, usually they shit on Marine a lot (because she can take it and does take it way too well, also shoots back nicely making for fun streams). From that somehow came a sponsorship for both of them to go to some tourist location with open hot springs baths, people joked about them going for a marriage trip. Noel took that and ran with it, as if the concept of Yuri = 1+1 so guys will love it finally clicked in her thot-head, her audience being horny dudes since forever. Flare just going with it can have any reason from "she's nice", "she values the friendship" to "she does it for the views" all the way to "those two fuck behind the cams".

I also believe Bakatare was forced somehow, seeing how they still do it I suspect Fubuki behind it. Flare and Fubuki make a good combo because once she thaws Flare just is a reliable partner. Watame is there too I guess, her collabs are basically her doing the same thing as solo, repeating sentences and not much else.

GFE experience? Flare is more like your tomboy childhood friend who enjoys a good beer. It took hololive quite a while to show off her girly side at all since her taste in games is quite male and she's the "manliest" of the 3rd gen by voice, simple solutions and ability to just look shit up (Minecraft).

People superchat her a lot, a small but growing group of loaded chads who ALWAYS watch, Flare streams have been like the same 2000 -> 6000 people every time I swear.

>>2637293
You’ve simultaneously sold me on Flare and made me dislike Noel. I can’t believe you’ve done this.

>>2637435
the power of truth and knowing japanese. now we get Flare to embrace her manly side again and settle for Marine and I did my oshi a solid today.

>>2617569
>implying this board is ever usable

>>2637293
>her audience being horny dudes since forever.
Thats not true at all, schizo-kun. Her audience was primarily women until the last 2 years or so, but I guess you won't let the truth get in the way of you shitting on Noel. In fact she still retains a higher female audience than Marine to this day, even on her roommates channel.

>>2637293
>>2638339
Also you are conviently leaving out all the audio help Noel has given Flare, to try and paint the picture of Noel using Flare.