/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp/
>https://vtuber-ch.com/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://www.hololyzer.net/2j3j/
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>124,349: Iroha (Hololive)
>53,614: ROF-MAO (Nijisanji)
>39,732: Miko (Hololive)
>39,436: Subaru (Hololive)
>31,210: Chloe (Hololive)
>28,189: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>19,477: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>19,117: Nose (VSPO)
>16,978: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,132: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>15,465: Kiara (Hololive)
>15,361: Mio (Hololive)
>14,037: Gatchman (Indie)
>13,293: Laplus (Hololive)
>12,451: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,248: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,968: Koyori (Hololive)
>11,542: Yang (Nijisanji)
>11,494: Nazuna Kaga (VSPO)
>11,237: Lui (Hololive)
>10,935: Noel (Hololive)
>10,561: Kronii (Hololive)

Mythchads.....

>>25815316
>JUNE 2022 GOLD
1) Salome (Nijisanji) - 97,905 - Resident Evil 7
2) Haachama (Hololive) - 46,696 - 4th anniversary totsumachi
3) Salome (Nijisanji) - 96,226 - GTA V
4) Salome (Nijisanji) - 94,165 - Resident Evil 7
5) Salome (Nijisanji) - 102,804 - Resident Evil 7
6) Watame (Hololive) - 77,793 - 3D birthday live
7) Mio (Hololive) - 46,701 - 1 million subs karaoke
8) Salome (Nijisanji) - 114,132 - 1 million subs celebration yakiniku
9) Iroha (Hololive) - 124,349 - 3D debut

>PER COMPANY
5x: Nijisanji
4x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
5x: Salome
1x: Haachama, Iroha, Mio, Watame

2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
107x: Hololive
44x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
11x: Kuzuha
9x: Salome
7x: Subaru
6x: Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Mio, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Haachama, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Iroha, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Melissa, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

I was just checking vstats and I want to know how in the fuck did Fungus get a 10k

>>25815377
Raid

>>25815377
Mysta raid.

>>25815412
How's the retention?

>>25815449
bad

>>25815470
jesus

>>25815339
>the Luxiem off-collabs mogged both
damn

>>25815470
Holy shit. Also, thanks for the graph anon

>>25815339
>EU debuff hours vs NA primetime
What's the point in comparing?

>>25815470
The big spike is the Mysta raid, what about the others...

>>25815559
a few of those are definitely Zs distorted by scale

>>25815470
funguschama...

>>25815559
Well he was getting them before the raid too so I assume its the same thing just amplified by the extra people the raid bought in.

* FINAL INTERNATIONAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>28,183: Mysta (Niji EN)
>15,658: Kiara (Holo EN)
>11,595: Nari (Niji ex-KR)
>10,589: Kronii (Holo EN)
>9,681: Fauna (Holo EN)
>9,076: Linglan (Cloud Horizon/TW)
>9,053: Millie (Niji EN)
>9,042: Luca (Niji EN)
>7,930: Amelia (Holo EN)
>6,627: Uki (Niji EN)
>6,128: Margaret (Cloud Horizon/TW)
>5,814: Shu (Niji EN)
>5,735: Amelia (Holo EN)
>5,449: Ike (Niji EN)
>5,095: Kamiina (Cloud Horizon/TW)

* FINAL INTERNATIONAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>28,183: Mysta (Niji EN)
>15,658: Kiara (Holo CN)
>11,595: Nari (Niji ex-KR)
>10,589: Kronii (Holo CN)
>9,681: Fauna (Holo CN)
>9,076: Linglan (Cloud Horizon/CN)
>9,053: Millie (Niji EN)
>9,042: Luca (Niji EN)
>7,930: Amelia (Holo CN)
>6,627: Uki (Niji EN)
>6,128: Margaret (Cloud Horizon/CN)
>5,814: Shu (Niji EN)
>5,735: Amelia (Holo CN)
>5,449: Ike (Niji EN)
>5,095: Kamiina (Cloud Horizon/CN)

>>25815819
insectchama...

>>25815819
>CloudHorizon
>CN
kys bug

>>25815470
Kind of retarded to raid people from a fun meme stream into Ai Somnium Files. Dogshit boring VN. Only thing that would make less sense is raiding into ASMR, SC reading, or a watchalong. Or Reimu.

>>25815819
Based

>>25815316
Hololive is reclining ..

>>25815470
fujos hates games streams unless it makes boy moans, also fungus is an ugly fatass IRL

>>25815819
>Holo CN
Civia...

>>25815642
Whole stream looked fucked from the start, raiding just made it extra fucked. Not even bots it's just...youtube.

>>25815994
only when it comes to males of course

>>25815316
12 nijis
6 holos
2 VSPOs

>>25815953
>Kind of retarded to raid people from a fun meme stream into Ai Somnium Files
Mysta is a hardcore numberfag and he probably did it to boost Fulgur

>>25816023
If you want to argue that a 2k stream for a visual novel was botted, feel free, I'm not that bored tho.

>>25816041
Only thing that happens when you do that is tourists thinking "oh, they're being polite, but still, fuck this". You just doom fungus to never grow.

>>25816036
Stop being a retard.

>Iroha's 3d debut nowhere to be seen
>salami's celebration from yesterday still up there
Why are yuotube interns so retarded? Can't do their job properly maybe they should get lost instead?

>>25816206
if cover doesn't want to pay up that's their problem

>>25816187
what does this mean? she only got 500 of the viewers she had at debut watch her last stream or something? did I get that right?

>>25816091
? Raids don't cost anyone anything. Better that a viewer has a 1% chance of jumping to covid than a 100% chance of closing the tab.

>>25816206
>Ado
>Wan Piss
Did I miss anything?

>>25816522
new movie si comming out anonchama..

well
that money was put to good use 7k and rising for a shill stream because they missed her so much

>>25816522
OP movie OC is an idol, sung by Ado. Song's not bad but it's not my favorite.

>>25816522
One piece debut their vtuber.

>>25816594
also the movie character's design is some deviant art shit

>>25816359
It's only chatters. So out of the 5911 on her debut and 6249 on her English stream, 405 are the same people.

Is there any site that has the total number of chats for the ROF-MAO stream today? Vrabi doesn't have it so if I can't find it I'll have to leave it off the chart.

>>25816632
New to anime movies?

Who started the trend of chibi membership emotes? I was under the impression that Fauna did, since hers were the first ones I recall seeing.

>>25817005
Anon are you retarded
Even Ina had them

>>25817005
You cant be serious do HoloEN tards really...

>>25816876
no, i've watched most of the one piece movies, like the last 4 focused on villains (shiki, Z, tesoro, bullet) and the designs were fine, some of the henchmen or "person we have to save" were kinda questionable, but Uta is honestly just bad

will salome be able to keep finding games that keep the attention on her

it seems like her audience is very liable to just not even bother if the content isn't something they're interested in

>>25817210
Doesn't matter.

>>25817210
She'll be fine
>it seems like her audience is very liable to just not even bother if the content isn't something they're interested in
Not exclusive to her

Ina 10k

Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Peak Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
12/19/2021 187,392 Pekora 2nd Costume reveal
11/28/2021 180,499 Koyori debut
11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut
11/30/2021 175,823 Iroha debut
11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut
02/23/2022 157,990 Gen 3: Rushia termination
11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut
03/31/2022 147,337 Suisei 4th Anniv Live

** The Rest **

10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal
07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
01/12/2022 136,102 Pekora 3rd Birthday Live
07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
12/13/2020 129,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
03/05/2022 125,917 Miko Birthday Live #4
06/09/2022 124,627 Iroha 3D debut (NEW)
07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday Live
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive New Year's Eve
04/17/2022 120,152 StartEnd Aqua POV
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke
04/27/2022 119,056 Marine Set Sail
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
12/11/2021 112,093 Gura 2nd Costume reveal
05/28/2021 111,501 Miko 3D Outfit Live (NEW)
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
05/27/2022 110,076 Miko WWE2K Voice Over (NEW)
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
11/30/2021 108,611 HoloX first full collab
03/20/2022 107,423 Holo Fes Day 2
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
03/19/2022 105,756 Holo Fes Day 1
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2021 101,868 Noel 2nd Costume reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

** Non-streams **
09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco pre-chat

** Rushia **
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smash Brothers
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary

** Instances (3x or more)
5: Marine
4: Coco, Miko
3: Gura, Pekora

>>25817352
The people who made this game got a bargain with Ina's shill stream being her only stream for weeks. Normally wouldn't get this high. Probably like a 6-7K stream if this was just a normal week.

>>25817368
>491,342 Coco Graduation
it's crazy
the market potential is crazy
where did all these people even come from
it's over 2 times more than the 2nd on the list
why arent all these people watching more?

>>25817427
Ina's back?

>>25817531
What make you think they don't ? They do, but not at the same time. Only for insanely huge event, like Coco's graduation, people will brave timezone and self convenience to be there

>>25817558
just for this Shill stream, then we won't see her until the end end of june/beginning of july

>>25817531
It was a global event for that particular day. I don't there was anyone that wasn't watching it happen even if out of mild curiosity.

Holo's normal event box is like 250K live.

>>25817599
nah it's still too big of a number
why havent we had those numbers on other big events since then?

>>25817703
Name a comparable event ?

>>25817703
Its probably the most important event of that time that concerns all timezones and audiences related to vtubing. Its also the first proper Hololive graduation and had a one month build up you can't recreate something like this

>>25817748
Rushia grad-

>>25817748
3d anniversaries, birthday lives, free part of the expo
there has been plenty of events since then. where are all these people?

>>25817871
Not really comparable since really unexpected, contrary to Coco's graduation which was now well in advance.
And even then, a guerilla announcement of gen 3 about it got 157K in 5 minutes
>>25817958
Neither of those event are anywhere close in importance nor scale

>>25817531
that number is insane though huh
I wonder what it would take to reach it again, there's a part of me that wouldn't be surpised if 5 years go by without anything getting there

>>25817958
Not industry scale relevant, coco was unanimously agreed upon by everyone to be the superstar of 2020 and one if not the major factor in the hololive boom

>>25817995
>Neither of those event are anywhere close in importance nor scale
>expo
>not bigger in scale
nigger the expo is literally the biggest vtuber event to date.

>>25817871
*termination

>>25815819
Where's Kaela?

>>25818123
After 00:00

>>25817368
>10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return
the most kino stream of all time

>>25818092
And it's not anywhere close to the importance people give to Coco's graduation. People talk about coco's graduation to this day, nobody is talking about expo two months after it

>>25818092
"Nigga" that expo stream was just skits and recorded segments with some rxpo tour meanwhile most of the bulk of the japanese fans would want yo go there physically and go to holofes concerts after instead of staying at home and watching that stream

>>25817005
Twitch streamers like 8-9 years ago?

>Salome panders to EOP
>lowest numbers yet
Lol, lmao

>>25818304
>panders to EOP
She's a retard who should've used duolingo. No one could fucking read any of the questions unless they knew japanese. There was nothing worth it there

>>25818169
why are tatsunokos like this?
I still think about that expo concert, faggot.

>>25818304
People overestinate the importance of EOP pandering when the base japanese audience has already eclipsed the potential EOP audience that got obliterated when the lockdowns stopped and everyone got to live their lives again. This isnt 2020 -2021anymore the only EOP audience these pandering streams have are the scraps that stayed watching vtubers at the peak of the boom

>>25818423
And that's your personnal experience which is not representative of the general opinion

>>25818380
it was actually a pretty high effort stream too, all original resources as opposed to just booting up some game, but effort doesn't guarantee good stream content

>>25818423
The expo and the concert are separate things fucking stupid ass bitch nigha faggot god I hate talking to clueless retards like you

Looks like Koyori is announcing her 3D during her holouta stream tonight.

>>25818495
kek what general opinion?
everyone will tell you that the expo was objectively the most tech savy and high quality vtuber live ever. of course people still talk about it. it is 100% representative of the general opinion.

>>25818549
Not him, but most people couldn't tell HoloFes and the Expo apart. Expect people to refer to them interchangeably.

>>25818549
it's literally on the same day treated as the same event retard. no one talks about the expo without the live. the live was the big finale for the expo you mongoloid

>>25818650
Not saying it wasn't a great event. It just wasn't as memorable as Coco's graduation and it's not as important in the general vtuber community as Coco's graduation

>>25818713
>It just wasn't as memorable as Coco's graduation
your personal opinion
>it's not as important in the general vtuber community as Coco's graduation
i think investors would disagree

>>25818650
>grandpa, do you remember where you were when you saw the free portion of Hololive Expo 2022?

>>25817531
from the sample data i have, a lot of tourists

>Now we are talking about how much CCV should get a stream based on a alleged investors' opinion
Niji going IPO was a mistake
Even without shitposters or false flaggers and during comfy hours this thread is beyond salvation

Why is Ina so god damn cute

>>25818707
You're the mongoloid for not separating the two of them and complain why the boring mostly japanese free expo stream (that only peaked during the actual expo camera tours) wasnt as big as that really important graduation that meant a lot for the global vtubing audience

>>25818688
God its probably an EN tard since its their last thing of relevance they can cling on

How does a shitter like Uki quintuple his audience for Karaoke?

>>25818067
Would have to be a mega tier holo graduation like FBK/Miko/Pekora. Maybe a musical live if they had some big idol guests somethow.

>ina sponsor wants 150k views
but anons said they looked for ccv?

>Miku creators numberfagging VOD views

>>25819027
retard the first half hour of the live was also for free

>>25819084
view farming, son

>>25819218
>>25819233
AIEEEEE NO NOT MY CEE CEE VEE
Isn't 150k kinda much for poor Ina?

>>25819218
>>25819233
did ina say that?

>>25819218
I mean even if they did, what are they gonna tell people watching the stream to do to increase CCV? "Hey bro go log on your fucking toaster, help us out!" They like both good VODs and CCV of course.

>>25819292
She's drawing Miku now, probably to make the stream longer and get more views

>>25819321
yeh

>>25819218
Did she say that on stream or what?

>>25819321
yes, that there will be a present if the vod hits 150k views

>>25819292
Nah 10k for 2 hours wouldn't be that far off naturally, and they didn't give a time limit so it would eventually hit that anyway. But now people will just loop it 6X or whatever the maximum daily viewing is and get it there immediately.

>>25819292
Nah she mentioned it so it will definetly get there. She gets 150k on long streams so it’s possible, takos just have to grind a bit.

>>25819467
She's also still on break technically, so...

>>25819218
Of course the views are important for sponsor
>people watching your ads more and more over time
vs
>people watching your ads only once
The former would be more desirable for sponsorship logically.

the fuck is this gamre goomber is playing
is this a buff game or what is it

>>25818088
would there be a holoEN without her?

>>25819675
Y anon, there is no bigger buff than playing the worldwide known superproduction AAA called: "I Am Fish"

>>25819660
Keep in mind that CCV is very big on twitch where fucking NO ONE will watch the VOD. Years later and anons ITT have no adapted to the fact that these are not twitch streamers.

>>25819675
i think its similar to i am bread

>>25819675
She's at almost 14k 15 minutes in while overlapping Inner. It's not a buff game but its definitely a neutral one, not a debuff.

>>25819822 me
yeah there might be a reason for that

>>25819233
Gee, it's almost like different sponsors have Different PRIORITIES!
WHAT A NOVEL CONCEPT.

Am fish.

>>25819218
Companies like Nissin for example certainly did, yes.

>>25819886
Probably because no one knows wtf it is.

So since her Eldenring Arc where she didn’t play anything else she has 24 streams and only 5 have NOT reached at least 140k VOD. 2 are 130k Vods and another 2 are 30-40 min streams. Only shit Vod she had was that super debuff Opus Echo of star song game. Yeah there no way she doesn’t get 150k within a week now that she mentioned it.

Gura....you can't just blackhole Ina during a Miku sponsorship ;-;

>>25819820
Twitch has mid-stream ads though.

>>25819771
Probably, but it likely would have taken longer.

Gura’s gonna get 20k playing this game at this point LMAO

>gura playing fish game
>expect finding nemo
>get frogger 3D
This will do numbers.

>>25820173
Partly Gura but partly where she ended the gacha part.

>>25820255
>CCV starts going down
look what you did

>>25820255
she seems to be stabilizing at around 17k so i guess it'll depend on when ina ends

>>25820320
Ina's about to wrap up so Gura should get 1-2k off that.

25.3k watching HoloEN.

>>25820235
Yes, but you can get multiple ads per VOD on YT.

>>25816206
>>25816264
Shouldn't have hurting the feelings of the Chinese people

>>25820335
Also she started to draw, this is where people tab out if there something else to watch. That said she still holding 8.7k viewers while overlapping with gura

>>25820450
I meant the thing about CCV being very big on Twitch

>>25819292
>Isn't 150k kinda much
so we are seeing the start of bot /view farm era of vtubing

Up to 18k now. The climb continues for this kusoge

I don't fucking get it
Uki cannot fucking sing why the fuck was I lied to

>>25818380
with duolingo or not, the numbers would be lower. En learning streams always do worse.

>>25820796
>climbing so fast anon is behind
20k btw

20k get LMAOOO

KNEEL TO THE SHORK

>>25820835
they're not actually trying and nothing comes of it

>>25820604
Oop, yea true.

>Takos moving over from Ina pushed Gura over 20k
The power of the box...

>>25820808
Only Enna, and to some extent Reimu, Pomu, Elira, and Millie can sing decently.

>>25820796
This stream is legitimately great. The game meshes really well with Gura's humor for some reason.

>>25819218
>>25819233
i told you retards

Dang I missed iroha stream yesterday, were the live numbers any good ? the vods pretty big from what I saw.

>>25820717
No? They set the bar based on what they get from the agency. They don't overburden people unless they overestimate expectations.

>>25818772
damn, you went for almost half an hour denying how of a one of a kind event was Coco graduation. Are you a chink or what?

>>25820808
i heard he's good with rock/metal or something like that

>>25820970
it's been so long i forgot she's actually a pretty good streamer when she tries

>>25820173
Even still a 12k CCV for a shill stream is pretty incredible.

>>25817958
anon.... just say you never watched coco, and weren't around in 2020.

>>25820542
Ina is nothing if not INCREDIBLY consistent with her viewer base.

>>25821015
wasn't that ike?

>>25820970
Yeah I’m enjoying it. The game also reminds me of a story form of super monkey ball with the maneuvering and whatnot. It fits right up Gura’s alleyway. Easy mechanics = good times

>>25820912
Being hyped for a mere 20k...Gura used to get those without any help or effort, it seem like the EN box is reclining.

>>25820987
124k, Iroha cute, I want to marry her, also Stop doing characters with big sleeves if you can't rig them

>>25821169
EN viewers is reclining overall. of course 20k is great these days

>>25819218
>Only 30k views
Ohnonono
I bet they regret giving sponsor to hololive instead of niji kek.

>>25821169
She's playing a literal indie game no one heard of before. Don't think any other EN can do the same

>>25818162
isn't it at 01.00 JST??
the global tally use that??

>>25821125
Ina has the second strongest ccv in general in Holo En its just always big even tho she barely has more subs than kiara.

>>25819218
hmm 150k is possible, but its a 50/50. Is there a time limit on getting it?

...how the fuck is this kusoge at 21k?

>>25821169
The last time Gura had guaranteed 20ks for every stream was January 2021.

>>25821065
Sponsors must be fucking estatic to get holos to promote their products. I don’t know the last time an EN had a bad showing for a sponsor. The fact that Gura’s paid advertisements get 300k+ views each is fucking insanity, and on JP end you’re guaranteed people to pay out for their oshi

>>25821314
It's Susan finally shilling Gura's stream.

Uki is actually eating Finana's views

>Post quality is inversely proportional to the english level of the person who made it
Nyaruhodo

>>25820808
>>25820950
Uki can sing just fine, he's just not a top tier singer. He's similar to people like Mori and Kiara, decent singer but that's it.

>>25819467

they looked at Valkyrie collab's success and are trying it out themselves. Not a bad idea for hitting and passing their quotas. What is it, 1 minute for 1 view?

>>25821321
So just like last year the users just decided to fuck off after new years for some reason?

>>25821393
>sykkuno sub 10k overlapping his oshi
oh boy

>>25821393
Sykkunochama...your numbers

Gura 21k

>>25821396
Proof?

Why are you all surprised by EN being weak? it always has been below japan

>21k garbage fish kusoge
HUH

>>25821434
Yeah for some (reason). Nothing to do with Youtube changing how CCV gets counted, resulting in a drop of viewed CCV resulting in tourists noticing these and no longer tuning into the big hype streams that are suddenly half of what they used to be.
Numbers beget numbers and Susan murdered HoloEN.

Btw, in case anyone is wondering, this game has just 700 reviews on steam. It’s now being streamed to 21k people

>>25821414
always has been

So why are Kronii, Fauna and Gura inclining back up? Inclining in Faunas case.

>>25821517
>it always has been below japan
Every single EN beats at least 1 JP. Their weakest member> JP's weakest member.

>>25821434
January was ccvid, some of that is probably still lingering. We saw the real (at least post 2020) numbers for like half a week then they started to get fucked up again and it's never fully resolved. Still it seems there's just a gradual across the board decline for EN vtubing in general.

TWENTY
TWO
THOUSAND

>>25821169
Wasn't she struggling to break 20k back in March and April outside of events? If anything she's been inclining over the last month compared to then.

>>25821154
quick anon, what are some similar games to suggest to Gura for good streams?

>>25821584
jej

>>25821584
Fauna has literally 0 competition in her timeslot and because she's always had that timeslot it's not jarring for her watchers to catch her there.

>>25821584
Gura is streaming less and streaming buff games. Fauna has been streaming consistently. Kronii is just..fucking streaming for once.

>>25821584
Half the people fucking off has helped people get good numbers with low or no overlap.

>>25821584
Because they are streaming?

Thread quality degraded quite a bit

>>25821681
>people complaining about thread quality now when they weren't even here during Salami hours

>>25818380
Would have been great if she used duolingo. Anyone that watched it would have gotten the Gura vod recommended to them for all of eternity.

>>25821393
Shit even with their numbers regressing this pic made me realize that holoEN is still top dog on the youtube streaming scene in general.
I made a post in a past thread saying I wasn't able to watch The EN anymore because of the low numbers but I think this post just cured my numbers affliction.
Thank you who ever posted this.

>>25821730
>implying I wasn't here at that time

>>25821787
They're top dogs on twitch too lmao, their only competition there are Korean hololive.

Gura 23k

>>25821730
nta, I have already given up on JP prime time, it's basically a mix of underaged SEAanons and people with legit autism that can't stop bitting the bait because they can't stand to see their oshi being insulted

>>25821787
here is the top twitch (personality) streamers for the past 30 days

>>25821584
College kids finishing up school, more people probably staying in to watch their oshi, good game choices and whether people want to believe it or not, those 3 in particular are phenomenal streamers for what their designated fanbases are. People love that chill, casual atmosphere that Kronii has and playing off her jokes, Fauna is one of the best speakers in Holo, Gura’s a seasoned veteran at this point. It helps a lot when you’re bringing in new faces or old faces coming back

>>25821393
>doubling their mercenary hire

>>25821592
the competition isn't remotely comparable

Nice worm, chumkeks.

>>25821886
wrong filter here it is based on avg viewers

>>25821897
So why are we comparing them then?

>>25821393
I bet Sykuno's audience overlaps with vtubers way more than Ludwig/TatttooMan/Disrespect, his audience is probably much more culled. Wish these guys would be more proactive about being fucked over by the company that brought them here, but I guess they got their pile of cash so they don't really give a shit or want to risk rocking the boat.

>>25821932
Holokek can't win without bots

>>25821625
I’ve always felt this, but my dream collab right now would be SNOT playing Viscera Cleanup Detail. I always felt it was one of the greatest collab games for stream because it’s simple, it’s easy to joke around in and it has a really hilarious setting (cleaners having to clean up a comical yet gruesome scene)

Kronii and Fauna played it with IDs and it was hilarious and did well too

>>25821895
Summer break for actual children just started too.

>>25821393
Well considering people are SCing gura if she knows about shylily on this stream and asking her about niji songs on her members, there must be new people.

>>25821592
The best EN streamer is the worst than more than 10 JP

>>25822033
Spare these threads your samefagging and larping.

>>25821886
Half these are arabs and mexicans and shit. How many speak English?

any holo stream that can top salome today?

>>25821393
So is it really this trending thing that is boosting her? Because not only are the numbers really high for the game, but she also only has like, half the likes compared to CCV.

What skit should Chloe do for her 3D?

THE NUMBERS /vt/ WHAT DO THEY MEAN?

>>25822039
solo streams, anon. don't bring collabs into it

>>25822081
holy ESL

>>25822096
it was set to English but i had it filtered on "rank" and not avg viewers like this one
>>25821967

>>25822077
Did Gura read the Shylily one?

>>25821967
Yeah Twitch is on another level, wtf is this? how do you get 100k live viewers in average
Asmongold following the trial probably explain this but it doesmn't explain the guy above.

>Tierlist > 4M vtuber
>Disney karaoke > offcollab karaoke
>HoloEN owakon?
HoloEN owakon

>>25822121
Hypnosis roleplay and ponkotsu comedy

>>25822096
There's a reason Mexicans/Spanish top the twitch CCV, and that's because they all have internet access but are POOR AS SHIT.

>>25822081
No she isn't, she's like #2-#4 depending on the month and how often Marine actually streams or Miko has the field all to herself. Almost no JP streamers can do a 20k average.

Twitch is not culled. Honestly youtube sabotages its streamers so fucking hard it's unbelievable

>ngmi
>mi
Gura...

>>25822121
asking for money with her tits

>>25822199
Is it because they only have phones and can't really do anything except watch streams? Is that why so many resort to using youtube to watch shit like soccer?

>>25822081
>more than 10 JP
lol. are you counting nijis and the holo/niji channel too?

>>25822185
Damn they're getting mogged.
I think it's time we finally admit that NijiEn has surpassed HoloEn in ccv atleast and superchat.

>>25822220
>Almost no JP streamers can do a 20k average
huh?

>>25822185
Unarchived Karaoke vs Archived Karaoke
Collab vs Solo stream
Why the fuck are you like this
Like I know this is bait and I know I shouldn't bite but honestly why the fuck are you like this

>>25822081
Why are ESLs like this?

>>25822325
seethe

>>25822283
In good part yes.
Just check the GDP of Mexico/Spain/The ES speaking countries. Not a lot of discretionary spending power, but yea access to phones everywhere.

About lolis not even able to do asmr, is it passable if they don't use their loli model/png/thumbnails when doing asmr stream?

>>25822325
He's like this because he's a shitposter anon. He has dedicated his life to spamming 'holokek, nijiwin' like it means anything to us or to him

>>25822121
Idk but I want Aki/Iroha lvl from everyone from now on.

>>25822325
Anon, why the fuck are YOU like this? Just collapse it and move on.

>>25822325
Everyone was ignoring him just fine until you had to be the idiot that bit the bait

https://twitter.com/ColorfulStageEN/status/1535063440896585729
lol

>>25822392
The youtube rules don't matter, haven't you heard? You can break the guidelines as much as you want now

>>25822220
>Almost no JP streamers can do a 20k average
Pekora, Subaru, Miko, Suisei, Marine and Aqua are all above her

does gura's stream lag sometimes for anyone or is it just my end?

>>25822121
Unironically full coombaiting, I need to see those fucking tits

>>25822464
150k is a joke, why are they lowballing so much?

>>25822392
Who knows, it's a new thing. I think the youtube bots would have a harder time flagging them if they don't have the avatar, but then again it might just stick a "loli flag" on your channel and *anything* you do that codes as sexual will trigger it.

>>25822150
She rarely reads any SC during the game parts, maybe after the game.

>>25822471
that's almost none if counting is hard for you

>>25822560
>it doesn't count if they don't stream
good one retard

>>25822471
next he is going to say they don't count

>>25822501
So it makes it. If for whatever reason (overlap, plus they didn't know she was gonna be gone all month and this would be a comeback stream when they made the contract) it was like a 5-7k stream, it would be a slog to get to like 200k or whatever.

>>25822185
>Almost 30k ccv
>Collab stream
>As buff of content as you can get
>Barely breaks 200k views
I'm shaking... I can't believe someone can be so strong.... Surely they're at the top of the world... Mysta really needs to do his 675k endurance stream after this effort

>>25822594
they do count, but in terms of every jp there is, they're very few, aka, almost none. retard

>>25822501
Same as Valkerie connect. They got triple the points that they set the goal to and had to do 3 additional goals during the event. I think they just underestimated Ina.

>>25822486
There was like, a 0.5 second blip that sorted itself out here, but otherwise, it's you.

>>25822501
Probably they just wanted to commission art from Ina and thought it would be a good way to make it a double boost for her to stream making it

>>25822628
>she's #2/ #4
stop coping chumpedo

>>25822464
>adding the illustration
did they not let Ina say that on stream? Because that drastically makes things easier

Zeta needs to play this Fish game.

Gura is twelfth on this list

>>25822626
Two hour 30k CCV stream getting ~200k views is...normal?

>>25822626
With this much ccv there has to be some clips and highlights for this stream, no?

150k isn't as easy for Ina as you guys are making it sound. It's a 1 hour 30 min stream. Most her 150k are like 3-4 hours of 9k+ averages.

>>25822683
not even subscribed to gura. making shit up is a hobby of yours i guess, have fun

>>25822628
Its not like every month gura gets 20k either..

Is this larping on both sides?

>>25822808
>making shit up is a hobby of yours i guess, have fun
>she's #2/#4 >>25822771
holy projection

>>25822808
moving goalpost its probably yours then >>25822220

>>25822771
She's literally the 6th holo on this list. This was a HoloJP compared to HoloEN discussion. Let's put her on 7 if for some reason the fucking Hololive channel counts as a streamer. That's not "10 more JPs" than her, and Shigure/Ponpoko aren't gonna replicate this again.

>>25822894
>Shigure/Ponpoko
You don't know that. They might be 20k median streamers now.

Jesas

24k

>>25822642
thanks

>>25822934
kek its nearly her highest stream for june so far

>>25822951
i too can look at pictures

>>25822934
Why are so many viewers tuning in for this kusoge?

>>25822934
I can't believe this game has peaked almost 1k higher than her last MC
What a monster

I don't expect it to, but if Gura beats that Mysta stream with this shitty fish game I will shit my pants laughing

Stop replying to them, retards.

>>25822985
youtube push

>+1000
>-800
Why is Susan like this?

STAND BACK, NUMBERBROS

I AM GONNA WOOOORM

>>25822501
>>25822644
>>25822630
>>25822625
it's not that easy, this stream averaged 8k for 1h 18m, and has 121k views after 3 weeks.

>>25822996
They can't stop replying to themselves

>People saying Salome will recover from her last stream
You guys don't understand how hype works. Salome's entire audience is nothing but unfiltered hyper casuals who subscribe after watching 1(one) VoD for 30 seconds and then never look at her again.

She reached her current status out of pure hype, because she avoided any kind of content that would cut into her mass appeal like the plague with 1 hour streams, all in the same time slot, only a years old popular video game, which she obviously prepared for ahead of time.

However, hype is finite. It exhausts the audience, and tourists are unreliable for anything. She already hit her peak of interest with her 1 Million Zatsu, anything from this point on will be recline. Add to that a hard JoP filtering stream and natural EoP filtering format, you now have a compounding decline, and the hype down is dying faster.

Biohazard 7 will not boost her back up to her previous numbers because Biohazard isn't a hype game for tourists, so the casuals will have already lost interest in her after seeing her number wasn't over 100k again, she can't recapture them that way. Her recline will only accelerate from here.

>>25822989
Yeah nah, 4k more is not possible if you're familiar with how and when EN usually peaks.

>>25822930
And Iroha might get 124k for every stream for the rest of her career, you don't know.

>>25822985
There's no JP streaming and (despite what some may say how there's no overlap) there was also no NijiEN gaming streams going on either.
Also, despite being a derpfest the game isn't terrible to watch.

>>25822989
It's different days isn't it?

>>25823036
so far her ccv is following her progress in the level, e.g. dropping on level complete screen

>>25823055
And? Ina said on stream she needs 150k views, and it got shilled on Twitter, so the numbers will probably inflate.

>>25823103
>there was also no NijiEN gaming streams going on either
Bitch there was a 17k karaoke overlapping this. Are you serious?

>>25822771
marine hasn't streamed yet this month despite her last stream being a "my throat has finally fully healed" announcement stream
I am concerned she will not rise above the ayame line

>>25823055
That's not the kind of stream many people would watch a VOD of. A 1 hour standalone comeback stream is gonna clear that easily, even before they gave an incentive.

>>25823152
>she begged for views
I can smell the desperation

>>25823194
>doing her job is bad

tonight is bizarre, gura playing a kusoge and Uki doing a scuffed karaoke are the streams with the biggest numbers

>>25823059
Salome's audience is like 50% fake so they ain't going anywhere, most of the others will come back if she just keeps playing Resident Evil. I agree that dunking cold water on your hype like that is a bad idea but for her it literally doesn't matter.

>>25822771
Dumb bitch could jump like 5 spots if she did 2-3 karaoke a month (already does on mems).
>>25822787
Anon she asked her takos already to get her there … she has 2 sub 100k streams since Elden ring arc and one was a huge debuff game and the other a 30 mins stream.

>>25823158
GAMING!
GAMING!!!
Motherfucker, Karaokes and Gaming streams do have a core audience that won't watch one or the other.

>>25823221
Uki always gets his 17k for Karaoke and I have no idea why.

>>25822501
150k is not a joke, not many vtubers can get that with a 1.5 hour stream

>>25823250
Yeah piss off chief, there has never been any evidence of significant overlap between the two ENs and we've literally seen holo karaokes cutting into holo gaming stream numbers.

>>25821932
Underage seanigger discover 4chan

>>25823158
Yeah IDK what he's talking about. Females maybe? Either way, there's really no overlap especially with fucking Uki of all people. Uki barely overlaps with the girls in his own branch much less Holo EN.

youtube dum

>>25823260
can ina get it with this stream?

>>25823245
most of those are almost an hour more than the shill stream

>>25823333
again, the zed peak never exceeds the local tabbed-in peak.

>>25823259
most karaoke streams usually end up at certain number, after the audience knows what to expect

>>25823380
Yeah I don't think this is gonna be easy for Ina at at all, the stream was short as fuck. She ain't no Gura to get 150k on demand.

>>25823219
I have never heard a vtuber, or a streamer in general, say that the stream needs to reach a specific amount of views so the sponsor can be satisfied. Don't kid yourself, she came off as desperate.

>>25823260
If it was IRyS or Kiara they were asking this of I would be with you but it’s Ina…it will be a natural 100-120k stream and the repeat viewers will push it over Easily.

>>25823373
Obviously since she mentioned it. If not it would be a tossup.

>25823481
Schizo

>>25823373
verification just started speeding up
we'll see how it goes after 4 hours
looking like about 80k vod views from the live viewers

>25823527
Holotranny

chumbuds are the most amazing thing. they think they are the biggest when the shark can barely touch the top holos and nijis from jp. 4 million doesnt matter when you still cant beat others with much less subs than you

>>25823511
look at the length of those VODs, 2.5 hrs and they still barely made it over 150k+

Do people just underestimate Twitter boosting?

>>25823070
I know, but it should be commended regardless, no other EN vtuber could pull something like this off with a game this retarded.
>>25823105
Yep, but the idea that Gura is rivaling a massive buff stream with some gay fish kusoge is hilarious to me.

>>25823567
>0.24 Salome
I don't think anyone this of Gura that way.
Maybe back in 2020, but not anymore.

>Uki funneling to Sonny
>only 7k

these raids are so funny, you can tell half of the people fucking left as soon as the raid started

>>25823588
Yesterday's Takamori is already at 164k at a little over 24 hours. 1.5 hour VOD. What was the CCV? Like 15k?

>>25823588
Why are you equating stream length to VoD views past the verification stage? People still watch VoDs after the stream ends anon, shorter VoDs are probably better for that too

>>25823511
Vod length matters anon, it matters a lot.

holy funnel

>>25823313
Look, just pop open vrabi and see the chat overlap HoloEN and NijiEN have.
It's there, primarily for the NijiEN girls.

>>25822985
Game fits Gura like a glove. Makes it fun to watch.

>>25823725
Worthless, 80% of those will be gone in 10 minutes

Need Salome 100k to break the thread's mind in JP time.
Gura only needs 20k to break the thread in NA time
What happen to us?

>>25823699
Luca's gonna beat him even with that raid, sad.

>>25823712
Higher live viewer churn on longer streams.

>>25823725
that's a raid from a 12k+ stream

>>25823699
hey peaks will look good on paper
^%500 peak

>>25823797
No one gives a shit about Salome. Fuck off and stop shitposting about her

>>25823699
Why are we still even discussing NijiEN fake numbers when they pull this shit lmao? They're not gonna stop raiding each other and inflating peaks. Now we're gonna have to argue with retarded nijiniggers about how "l-look they're all inclining!" like we're investors and they wanna sell us Niji stock with lies.

>>25823857
The worst part is HoloEN seems to just avoid wanting to do it haphazardly so it'll never be on an even playing field. Apparently they discussed it before about raids and I guarantee you a good chunk said they didn't want it.

>25823839
The tolerance of this thread in NA time is too low lol

>>25823857
EN needs to move to average CCV for comparisons, NijiEN raiding every day and sometimes multiple times skews the numbers for PEAK CCV a fuckton.

>>25823857
there's a lot of seething and coping in your post, anon

>>25823857
It doesn't matter unless they can get 2 successful streams going at once and raid one with the other for a big number. That's incredibly hard for them since their bigger talents all share the same audience and murder each other when they overlap.

>>25823857
i mean, it won't even matter that much for their average if they keep bleeding viewers after the raid happens

>>25823906
I mean HoloEn seem to be doing it pretty sensibly. It's the numberfagg branch that is NijiEN (Who admit on stream they have meetings about numberfagging) that abuse this feature.

>>25823952
We don't care about the average. Only peak CCV matters in this stupid thread

>>25823797
Salome does the heavy-lifting when it comes to mindbreaking, then it's easier for Gura to finish the job during NA times

>>25823839
seethe holofag

>>25823925
Add the massive Zs they often get and yea, their peak medians are inflated quite a bit. Meanwhile for some reason holoEN barely gets any Z and when they do get it it's a very small one.

>>25823952
>>25823925
Well it matters for /#/ because for some retarded reason we use peak median. Inb4
>b-but what about superchat readings those lower the average
yeah, but they're still real numbers for real content types. and most holos do superchat readings that lower averages, whether dedicated or not.

>>25824015
And unlike NijiEN when they Z they either recover or pass where they started while NijiEN just fucking falls

Maybe we should be talking about about other metrics, anons.

For instance, superchats. Oh wait, we stopped doing that after Vox/Luxiem/Nijisanji kept mogging Holos after Rushia's graduation and Luxiem's incline.

>>25823708
13k average vs Ina 9k

>>25824072
>le we stopped discussing superchats retard
seriously what is it with you? not only are they still discussed but no one is stopping you from posting these. they're actually incredibly easy to fetch from playboard

>>25824072
You bring this up constantly, and it's just not true.

>>25823857
And people shitposted that the Holos used it first but now it became the norm on the nijiside

>25824072
Newfag

>>25824041
We'll probably have to switch to straight average and the people who read SC will just have to take the hit, because these raid peaks make everything goofy as fuck.

>>25823725
Not in tally kek

Imagine if Salome raided another niji, 70k immediately close the stream

>>25823722
>>25823588
Of course length matters. You nigs aren’t taking the fact she asked viewers to repeat watch , stream was past Her normal hours and she is in a long break. 150k within 3 days , Ina takos are a cult and she already knows she will get it.

>>25824164
Yes, it has been brought up. I personally ascribe more value to Twitter shilling though.

>>25824146
Not gonna happen, the bots won't transfer like we saw with Sara Nagare's raid. I'll eat my own dick if she ever dares to do a poll either, cuz that shit ain't happening.

>>25824146
I hope she does, just to get some rando 300ccv nijis high on the tally
If her stream ends 2 minutes before midnight she might even be able to gift some golds away to people who have never even been close

gura just called chumbuckets virgins..

>>25824222
Chumbuckets? More like CUMBUCKETS

>>25824072
Be the change you want to see, or fuck off. Complaining will not solve your problem.

>>25824118
>>25824110
>>25824104
I must have missed yesterday's SC ranking posts, anons or the day's before

Where exactly are they?

>>25823857
Yeah that's gonna drop like Reimu's dog.

>be Gura
>have 4M subs
>only 0.5% show up for your stream
>99.5% don't give a single fuck
inb4 >work, sleep, schedules
Then I ask, is it more important than mommy gau gau?

>>25824385
don't forget Sana's

>>25824380
Well, get to it then anon, make SC graphs from now on instead of crying about it waiting for someone else to do it for you.

>>25824380
Don't give a shit, I'm not gonna dig for you. But you've been saying this "we don't discuss superchats since Luxiem" bullshit for half a year now and its insane, we've done it plenty of times. If you want the discussion format to be a daily tally, post the fucking daily tally.

>>25824380
Go fucking look them up yourself. No, I'm fucking serious, if you fucking care about the SC rankings, literally just make them. It's not anyone's fucking job to make the rankings for you to shitpost over

>>25824461
I unsubbed from her to don't be a dead sub, does that help?

>>25818483
are you implying that EOPs were more affected by Covid lockdowns or something? This whole narrative is pretty retarded it's not like streaming wasn't a thing before 2020.Issue is chuubas are still a niche in the West so when you look at twitch they often have to resort to thot tactics if they want any popularity so many people see it as some sort of fetish/sexual thing which limits their growth.Also doesn't help that twitch Vtubers don't really have anything special going for them in terms of talent and as mentioned play into this stereotype.

>>25824483
>>25824481
>>25824478
so there aren't any
classic holotrannies, lying as naturaly as they breath

>>25824500
kek yes

>>25824478
Reimu killed her dog for pity points. And it didn't work lmao

>>25824380
be the change you want to see in the world

>>25824517
That's retarded, Amouranth was probably a worse example of a female streamer in every single way, even the shittiest coombaiters have more substance than that actual whore

>>25824558
They're actually 2 threads back dumbass.

>>25823857
Why all of the seethe? they are just making use of the function youtube has.

>>25824500
Yes!
Please do!
She CAN'T GET 4m ON HER BIRTHDAY.
THIS LAZY SHARK WANTS TO MINIMIZE HER WORKLOAD INSTEAD OF DOING A SEPARATE STREAM FOR 4m!

>>25824667
And I'm just pointing out that's fucking with how and why we're counting these things. In the real world no one will care about peak medians anyway.

Mommy Fau Fau is not going to be happy when I tell her you don't discuss her achievements enough.

>>25824517
That's not because it's a stereotype unique to Vtubers, it's because every woman on Twitich is a thot since that's the only way to get high views there

>>25824558
>Already deflecting
Disguting Nijichink

REIMU'S DOG DEAD
>REIMU'S DOG DEAD
REIMU'S DOG DEAD
>REIMU'S DOG DEAD
REIMU'S DOG DEAD
>REIMU'S DOG DEAD
REIMU'S DOG DEAD
>REIMU'S DOG DEAD

>>25824822
LLLETTTTTT'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>25823971
yeah they don't want be slav of their metrics like mysta who has a menhera attack every time he failed to beat 10K but it's frustrating all the wasted potential they have.
at least I expect the future gen3 and homosEN will a little more competitive

>>25824731
>>25824822
what achievements my dude?

Making fun of Reimu's loss is shitty, it's not like she was anything but a numbers underdog anyway

>>25824731
>>25824822
>>25824945
AAAAALLLL MEEEEEEEE

>>25819218
Youtube is not a streaming platform so I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of sponsors completely ignored CCV and just pay yt streamers like they would regular youtubers more or less.

>>25824822
Fuck off mate.

Kek gura's near her last peak again. Fish game graph looks like fucking Apex

>>25824463
who?

>>25824659
well we call them nijinigger for a reason anon

>>25824667
Because if there is ONE thing that can bring this thread together, it's hating on NijiEN. Pretty much everybody here hates NijiEN, even the NijiJP fans.

>>25825125
Based Gura pioneered shitty fish game meta, everyone needs to schedule a stream of this immediately

>>25825070
Reimu, I know you're reading this.
I'm glad your dog died.

>>25825138
A-Anon?
Tsukumo Sana, part of Hololive Council of Hololive EN.

You surely have heard of her, r-right?

>>25824945
Mommy Fau Fau wouldn't appreciate this slander.

>Sana's dog dead
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LET'S GOOOO

>Reimu's dog dead
Stop that is not funny