/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>25367170
She's almost the famous "Gura Killer" by now

>>25367218
She's going to break Gura's 1M record in a few days, look forward to it.

>>25367218
She doesn’t stand a chance.

>>25367218
Doubt it. Current JP audience for VTubers is a mile wide and an inch deep. Makes predicting anything off debut buff even more unreliable.

A chuuba that is actually entertaining is mogging all the boring EN whores and manwhores? Looks like the time line is finally fixing itself

>>25367246
She's going to need roughly 3.8 million Japanese people into vtubers to do that, which is very unlikely. There's probably around 2.5 million who are actively watching them in Japan.

>>25367459
She only needs to be a good trendsetter and get those ironic weebs on board

>>25367262
>>25367415
>>25367459
Saving these to grudgepost later desuwa~

>>25367170
In >3 years ID will surpass both of those markets.

Literally no one cares. If you want to make better bait choose a holo next time, you'll get more replies.

>>25367170
doesn't really matter since his subs are fake

>>25367741
I'll be sleeping when she passes Irys in a few hours so hopefully someone else can handle that one!

It seems so strange that suddenly theres this explosion of subs when nothing else has really come close to it before then. A couple years ago during a pandemic when people were stuck at home you didnt get thewse kind of numbers really then all of a sudden this not even that long after Gen6 ID3 and Nijias faily successful males? Something seems a little off here

>>25367170
I HURT MYSELF TODAY

>>25367536
I don't even deny she could beat Gura's record and was not replying to that post about it, so you can't really grudge me on that, but if you really think anyone speaking exclusively JP is going to be a Gura Killer in any meaningful sense i.e. the most globally popular VTuber, then uh, good luck. HoloX also broke a Gura record, but only went on to demonstrate how Japan's mainstreaming of VTubers has led to a deceptively shallow meteoric effect early on for big debuts, and even if Salome overcame that, it would be entirely unprecedented for any JP VTuber to broaden their audience to Gura levels. Don't have any problem with Salome particularly, any more than I did Chloe, but throwing around Gura Killer every time this happens is probably jumping the gun as the JP audience has been proven repeatedly to be very different to the EN one.

>>25367532
you are a moron, one of the big reasons Gura's famous is because of her singing abilities, like this clip that has 2.9M views now https://youtu.be/g0lQESej9zc (3/4 of her subs)
,not even Suisei who's the most manstream in that field can do that and there's too many of them to be called a fluke. The funny shark side is like 50% of her power.

>>25367170
I ain't even mad, Vox just proved he's kind of a faggot sounding like a ranting vtweeter going "hurr parasocial bad you're a schizo if you call me your bf" despite him being the fucking epitome of BFE manwhore. It'd be as if Rushia turned on her audience and started ranting and lecturing and berating them all when she got caught with Mafu2x, but nah, she never had such a moment and her fans followed her over to mike the cat. Instead the manwhore has no problem berating his audience and blaming them for a fuckup on his own stream of some bitch calling in and bugging him during a stream quite literally about him role playing as a BF taking the audience on a date. I mean really. There is only so much forgiveness and credulity one can have before you go "ok this guy is just a dick."

>>25367913
This, it's weird. Covid is functionally over, the initial rush of streaming chuubas has been over with for a while now and Niji JP females haven't really had anything new going on for ages. Maybe she's drawn in a slightly broader userbase than before but that doesn't explain beating Gura's record growth to 1M when even Kuzuha is barely over 1M after all this time. If she actually beats Pekora to 2M or passes Ai then something has to be called out, because there's no explanation as to where these people are coming from.

1M in 20 day ikz!!!

>>25367459
I'm a Filipino boy and I'm subbed to her.

>>25368082
Its not likely as simple as bots either. Fucking EN 2 got their momentum gutted by the algorithm and now ALL companies have to be careful releasing new talent too close together

>>25367170
and she did this without being the chink fujo pandering, ASMR bullshitting, manwhore...

>>25368152
gross dont sub to my chuba

No it just proves, putting in less effort gives you more success. You complain about lazy streams and you've got one that only does lazy 1 hour streams and now it's okay. /vt/ being flip flopping hyprocrites yet again.

Where do those Japanese come from? It's like there is still untapped market in Japan WTF?

>>25368494
Short streams are better than long streams because you can easily catch up on a vod if you miss it

>>25368500
I've seen people try to explain it with the "she's a pro VA" angle but that shit's been tried in the past with the likes of YUA and it didn't work, so I'm not convinced. Hell pro VA have done chuuba stuff as their most iconic characters and not had the same results, this is absurd.

>>25368541
Starting streams at midnight JST is a far bigger filter.

>>25368494
The goal moves whenever one or the other corpo gets the upper hand on anything.

CCV was the metric until SC revenue, SC revenue until merch sales, merch sales until total stream hours, total stream hours until VoD views, VoD views inyo CCV.... Repeat ad nauseum.

>>25368593
wasn't yua in some shit agency with a spic retard? there was never any hope for that

>>25368666
There was far less competition back then and most of the agencies were retarded or scummy as fuck. Also when Salome is about to surpass the highest sub female chuuba in the company after a week, that's kind of a moot point.

>>25368152
You're a loud outlier though, that doesn't mean there are many like you. You'll be a part of the 250,000 SEAs, EOPs and others that do/don't understand Japanese yet still subbed to her because of FOMO.

>>25368494
Holoen-7streams-in-a-month-fan calm down

>>25368043
the JP vtuber market is bigger than all the other markets combined though

>>25368500
From what I've seen in the comments a lot of them are "returnees" to the Vtuber thing like me.
I dropped active following 2 years ago with /vt/ inception, when holo got big and went global and only kept a tab on a select few but I came back for Salome.

>>25368500
It's oldfags, Hololive's explosion while bringing in a lot of new people also turned off a lot of Japanese oldfags.

https://twitter.com/aiue_etizenn/status/1530947890813992961

Did Aiue Oka had any interest in vtubers before? He just drew Salome few days ago.

>>25368976
While the potential for people to be into chuubas in Japan is higher than anywhere else in the world the numbers simply don't add up, you have 125M JP speakers in the world against 1.4B EN speakers. That's why Pekora has yet to get 2M subs and why Ai is stuck at 3M after a near six year career. Fuck, even Hindi has more influence on YT for the general audience which is why the most subbed channel is that stupid Indian one.

>>25367170
it's over
nijiEN is dead

>>25368896
Nah, there will be a lot more eop than this. They will laugh at a clip, think she's good, subscribe while saying to themselves "I'll catch a stream later!", and finally slowly forget her after going back to the filthy en vtubers since they can't understand shit.

>>25369180
There're a lots of people who didn't give a shit about Vtuber talking about her

>>25369180
so does hirame, and at least from what i've seen on danbooru he has never drawn any vtubers before

>>25369333
>>25369404
even more evidence to answer some of the copes in this thread then

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>>25369447
Examples of unnatural growth are not evidence of legitimacy.

>>25369180
her design is god-tier and kept simple to be honest, any artist worth their salt will try their hand at it

>>25369404
Artists can be bought, same as bots. You may have heard of the concept of commissions.

i don't give a single fuck about her but i sure hope that she passes the Tokyo Ghoul twink to make his pathetic fanbase seethe

>>25367170
Nippon wa sekaiichi!

>>25368795
if i remember right he even inserted himself in the videos
understandable that people didn't want to watch that

>>25369180
>Aiue Oka
This guy is a god. Hypnosis Salome doujin soon?

I don't get the hype but I wish I did. Seems fun.

>>25367170
BOT subs doesn't count

>>25367459
Are you retarded

>>25367170
Why are you "vs" ing someone from the same company... Are nijifag dumb or something?? The fag and Salome sama is literally a BIG fucking W for nijisanji

>>25369541

That assumption is plenty stupid, because commissioning that many artists would be pricy and Anykara is as cheap as hololive. Moreover, but if that was simple to get a character on the front and be a major trend, everyone would have done that before...

Frankly, why looking that far up your butt when the explanation is pretty simple : she appeals to people hence she's popular that's it.

>>25367218
Great, now she's cursed.

>>25369196
not really, 80% of the Japanese streaming market is for vtubers
Meanwhile it's about like 3% for NA, even lower for SEA.
Where did your 2 billion people come from? India don't care about vtubers.
SA and SEA don't watch English streamers, EN doesn't seem to care

>>25367170
Salome is a great entertainer. Vox is a pretentious cock smoking faggot that panders to mentally ill fujos and most of his numbers come from that.

>>25371215

Because it's not just a comparison of numbers, but one of philosophies, of principles. Vox did manage to get here but it really gets stale and is pretty much about numbers. Salome is special and feels way more authentic.

She even draws sometimes for her Twitter and her streams recap, and what she lacks in drawing, she makes up in the humour part.

she represents what it means to be a vtuber at its core : entertain your audience by embracing your flaws and being natural.
remember that for example opm and mob psycho are fucking ugly, but it's all about passion and concept.

>>25371385
M8 everything listed there are actual facts, T-Series is the most subbed channel on YT, I didn't say it was for vtubers but general audiences.
>not really, 80% of the Japanese streaming market is for vtubers
Considering none of the top nip YT channels are chuubas that's extremely unlikely.
>SA and SEA don't watch English streamers, EN doesn't seem to care
And yet the most subbed chuuba channel is an EN one, so yeah.

>>25367170
>Salome passed Vox, proving once and for all that JP >>>> EN
holy based

>>25368082
Retard Mito was having 20-30k live views every stream in fucking 2018.
Vtubers started getting big in early 2019. Muh Covid was only for EOPs because it just coincided with the Holo azurlane collab.

>>25371215
>Are nijifag dumb or something??
What makes you think that OP is a Nijifag? Nijifans wouldn't be mad about this and Holofans don't give a fuck about any of these people from the start. It's always the dramafags trying to start shit

Tick tock cloekek

>>25367170
based desu wa

>>25367170
>Salome passed Vox, proving once and for all that JP >>>> EN
No you maggot, YT has a fucked algorithm and that's it.

>>25375937
ITS NOT FAIR!! SALOME CHEATED THE YT ALGORYTHM!! MILORD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WINNING!! ITS JUST NOT FAAAAAAAAAAAIR!!!1

>>25369541
lmao

>>25368976
Just want to point out that a substantial amount of subs that Gura has does come from JP, so it's not really a JP vs rest of the world situation, it's a JP vs JP + rest of the world thing.

>>25373192
look at any thread shitting on nijicn and you'll find that their fans hate nijijp

>>25367218
No JP will ever be a Gura killer because of language barriers.

>>25367262
>>25367415
>>25378021
Not even two weeks later and Salome is close to a mil. It took Gura nearly two months to reach that height. Holobronies are in an absolute state of shock right now and still trying to comprehend it.

>>25371215
>Company-based numberfagging
I get wanting your oshi and her close friends to have good numbers, but this constant shitting on rivals of the big company you worship is about as intelligent as hooligans thrashing each other after sports matches. Doing it for laughs attracted the actual idiots as usual

>>25376184
I hate Nijisanji, but whatever

>>25367246
Gura never asked for that record. She'll be happy to have it broken.

>>25367218
You jinxed it anon.

>>25367170
Based, EN as a whole is irrelevant.