/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

idk kinda seems like hes ridin a high horse

(USED DEEPL and a mix of Edge's translation tool)

Renewal of Corporate Branding

YAGOO / MOTOAKI TANIGO

The vision and values listed on our website were created by myself. Value is a way of playing as a team with fewer employees, and as the number of employees increases, it is no longer functioning, so it needed to be reviewed.

I also used something I made for the homepage. With the growth of the business, it was necessary to change the design and content so that the people concerned could trust it.

Therefore, with park's help, we proceeded with the creation of missions and values while also hearing about employees, and then proceeded with the renewal of the website.

About the mission

My mission was to challenge myself to create culture from Japan. I believe that VTubers are a uniquely Japanese culture that was born out of Japan. As one of Japan's leading VTuber companies, we would like to challenge businesses such as Metaverse and create a new culture in the future.

About Value

In order to firmly establish ourself among working members, we have narrowed our values down to three. In the future, we will continue to value the attitude of boldly launching initiatives like Holo Live Summer, the attitude of tackling various challenges as a team, and the attitude of creating content beyond your imagination together with creators both internally and externally.

About the homepage
https://cover-corp.com/

By featuring the COVER logo in various locations around the city, we expressed how our services, including Holo Live Productions, are blended into the real world with state-of-the-art technology. As shown in the video below, there may be talents somewhere in the city.


At last
I think that I have come to think about various things by myself, and such a time has come to an end, and I feel that I have finally become a company. We aim to be a company that can create a wonderful culture, and we want to grow steadily step by step with the aim of being a company trusted by everyone. Thank you very much for your continued support.

Active recruitment
We are looking for colleagues who can challenge together to create a culture loved around the world. We look forward to your application from the following.

https://herp.careers/v1/cover

>>2534559
To follow up on this, they have a fancy new corporate site, and this is basically a PR piece to talk about how great it is to work at Cover.
https://cover-corp.com/


They enlisted these guys to basically revamp their structure https://parkinc.jp/

>>2534526
He's not wrong. Do you think that America could produce something equal or superior to the current Vtuber culture in light of the fact that the cultural capital of the United States is LA/Hollywood?

>>2534608
The US is too obsessed with "Realism".

This is just corporate self-shilling to appeal to investors, you guys aren't actually going to make narratives based on this right? Right?

>>2534526
>VTuber is a culture that can only be created in Japan
Western Vtubers consist of genital jokes, so he's technically right

>>2534559
>aim of being a company trusted by everyone
well, there's a mountain of work right there

but then again, it's probably better that fans are loyal to talents and not the company

There is a position open for EN manager. You could fight Enma in person https://herp.careers/v1/cover/zZuGrwAZ7UNU

>>2534590
>https://parkinc.jp/
Looks like they specialize in American-style millennial pandering. So much for unique Japanese values and culture.

>>2534526
Is Hololive really that delusional? kek

>>2534660
already applied.

Obvious PR fluff but he's not wrong. Only problem is, before he starts aiming worldwide, I would like for him to sort his own house in order. There's obviously a huge discrepancy of management between the 3 branches that doesn't make sense, even if they are under the same umbrella. They don't say it outright but there is some disorder, gatekeeping and miscommunication that you can feel through the videos that they drop hints of but don't blatantly say. Once they unify their rules and vision across all branches, then they can aim for worldwide domination.

>>2534667
>American-style millennial pandering
Japanese millennials are as much as hipsters as American ones. They really aren't unique.

>>2534660
Sounds like a great way to get fired immediately

Do you rike it?

It just reads like a bunch of meaningless corporate wank, like its almost entirely devoid of content for how much is there.

>>2534526
Wonder if he will still be saying that when vshojo overtake holoen

>>2534655
I highly recommend you to check out more western VTubers than VShoujo, there are a lot of talents that are not peepee poopoo or sex joke reliant

Especially when HoloLive proved plenty of times to have real degenerates like Marine talking how she masturbates daily or stuff like this https://youtu.be/wUlsOGO1D0A

>>2534853
>Some of you actually believe this

>>2534883
It's embarrassing how you niggers will reply to the most obvious bait.

>>2534883
Well currently vshojo does seem to be inclining in numbers while holoen has been reclining for months.

>>2534895
Is it really? It's more embarrassing that it sounds like you aren't aware that most of the people posting on this board are newfags who don't lurk more than 2 minutes.

>>2534608
Ironically Hololive probably wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for American innovations though. Specially Apple and Valve for their IR tracking and VR technologies.

>>2534614
In recent memory, Hollywood has released comic book movies, unhistorical period pieces, gender-flipped reboots, and China-market trash. The only Realism in LA is convincing people to open up wallets while simultaneously flipping them the bird.

>>2534917
>Actually you're the retard for pointing out a retard
Flawless logic.

>>2534941
Thanks

>>2534690
Absolutely. Each branch has a lot of different rules and types of management instead of a single vision.

Yagoo needs to say all that to make investors to not just give money to ichikara like they always do lmao

the incline of vshojo over hololive is a spiritual victory on the path to destroying coco kiryu

>>2534982
Honestly can't see how that's relevant at all to him saying he thinks only japanese can make real vtubers.

>>2535035
Well he isn't wrong, all the /wvt/ vtubers remind me of back when deviantart was cranking out sonic the hedgehog ocs

>>2535025
Imagine being a chink and having to pretened to like nyanners to own Coco epic style.

So, Yagoo is hiring
>011-1 Accountant
>012-1 Recruiter
>112-1 Operations Director (Hololive)
>113-1 Talent Manager (Indonesia) finally a leash for Ollie kek
>113-2 Content planning and management (Hololive Indonesia)
>114-2 Talent Manager (English speaking)
>123-1 Negotiation with illustrators
>125-1 Production Management Directo
>211-1 Server side engineer
>216-1 UI/UX Designer for our self-developed application!
>216-2 Unity Engineer
We are looking for an engineer to work directly under the CTO to create online games.
>221-1 3DCG Designer (Background)
>222-1 Live2D Modeler
>312-1 Video Production Creator (in charge of music videos)
>312-2 Video production creator (in charge of official programs)
We're looking for editors of program videos! You will be in charge of the official talent variety show!
This is an exciting opportunity to join a growing company in the UK
>UK???
>313-1 Hologura Scriptwriter
>313-2 3DCG Animator
>313-3 3DCG Animation Director
>314-1 Music Production Director
>331-1 Talent Manager (in charge of hololive)
>332-1 Talent Manager (in charge of Holostars)
>411-1 Promotion Manager (Overseas Business)
We are looking for a PR person for our overseas business!
>411-2 Promotion (music and live events)
>411-3 Promotion (Hollow Live)
>413-1 WEB Director
>413-2 WEB Designer
>421-1 Director of Merchandise and Product Planning
>431-1 "Holostars" event production producer
>432-1 Live event management director (eventor)
>434-1 Technical director of live event production
>512-1 Domestic sales representative
>512-1 Overseas sales representative
That's alot of fucking positions open. I suppose this is where all the money is going

>>2535052
Didn't anyone think to tell him that japanese exceptionalism might not go over so well with foreign audiences though?

>>2535035
Except he didn't. OP mistranslated it. He's just talking about how vtubers originated in Japan and are Japanese culture.

>>2534559
>Therefore, with park's help

Sasuga soo min park, this bot really provide great help

>>2534526
>They need accountants.
Why am I an EOP?..

>>2535077
I need to update my CV. Wish me luck bros!

>>2534982
Ichikawho? Stop being delusional, no one cares about them, they failed to reach out to the majority and they'll die when the fujos found the new big thing that they like.

>>2534608
Amerimutts cant produce any good shit in any genre. Their entertainment is totally fucking destroyed by woke cultists and their agendas. Sure as fuck they will never ever come back. Their education itself is absolutely toxic and degenerate like critical race theory.

>all of these rrats over a mistranslation
this is why you all need to learn japanese, JESAS

>>2534526
>In the future, we will continue to value the attitude of boldly launching initiatives like Holo Live Summer

Hololive Pornhub when

>>2534590
>社員数
154名(2021年4月現在)
Can people stop with the small indie company meme now, they have just as many employees as Ichikara officially confirmed.

>>2534853
absolutely delusional

>>2535025
You chink are retarded, coco’s style is quite similar to the vshoujo girls so if they succeed then that just indirectly mean coco was successful. To make it worse none of the vhsoujo girls are Chinese, some of them are American like coco.

>>2535191
Ichikara had 200+ last year though, wonder how many they have now.

>>2535132
meds holofag

>>2535077
Stop with the uk shit, nowhere on the site does it mention uk. All the jobs list the location in Tokyo.

>>2535191
yeah but their fuckups are still small indie company tier, so pls undahstan

too much effort, they will shoot themselves on the the feet
should've go chaotic and planless

>>2535225
Vshojo girls understand how to respect a country and beliefs
you won't be laughing when they are more popular than hololive next year
look who Kizuna Ai collab with not them
she stream on bilibili all the time

>>2535235
Ichikara has never had 200+ as of the last time they officially updated it was 152 as of 08/20.

>>2534936
culture isnt equal to tech

>>2535132
cry more. thanks for taking the bait piece of shit.

>>2535293
Do any of them stream on bilibili? No, they don’t give a shit about your country or belief. They mentioned Taiwan all the time so eat a dick, no America care about your geopolitics, maybe some politicians but normal people in US don’t. Try going to US and try to tell people you are from wuhan and that Taiwan is not a country, you will get punch in the face for being Chinese and trying to talk to them.

>>2535077
holy shit games and an improve hologra, this can become gold please dont fuck it up

>>2534874
I see this and I go “why the hell are there no marine antis?”
I still have no answer

>>2534559
>We are looking for colleagues who can challenge together to create a culture loved around the world. We look forward to your application from the following.
acquisitions time DO IT YAGOO better scoop up 774

>>2534672
This retard ran Ichikara / Nijisanji as a black company until the investors smacked him and the other executives upside the head for treating their staff and livers like shit.

>>2535383
they will learn to be grateful for the chance to be on bilibili once they see how profitable it is
Kizuna Ai is and she love us
its why she biggest vtuber in the world
404 is bad platform

>>2535499
Honestly that period seems like the fairly typical story of start ups going through rapid growth phases early on to me. You always hear stories about people working at tech start ups having to work ungodly hours in the early days. Hololive had a whole bunch of problems come out of the woodwork after they started growing rapidly which they seem to be mostly over now too.

>>2535464
Holy newfag batman

Time to invest in cover stocks?

>>2535508
I heard 76,000 of you guys donated a grand total of $63.00 to ai in her among us stream today, you guys ok with foods?

>>2535556
Anon this thread is filled with EOPs including me you'll need to explain

>>2535556
>IPO
>will be forced to establish a board of directors that can kick out leadership

they have 52 talents right now and currently in the process of adding 1 + 5 this insane "metaverse" expansion and rapid growth will spread the company thin and will ultimately result in fucking up the talents one way or the other. im sure of it.

>>2535508
>50% cut.
>too much red tape to transfer money out of the country
>need to have joint bussiness by law.

profitable my ass.

>>2535572
that more money than you make in an hour
Kizuna Ai already shows she prefers Chinese
so does Vshojo

>>2535025
> Having to rely on western whores to get a “spiritual victory”

The state of chink antis.

>>2535556

>>2535572
>76,000 of you guys donated a grand total of $63.00 to ai
Seriously? Coco makes more than that when she goes to the bathroom on stream rumao

>>2535556
Where did you get this from?

>>2535556
one of the positions ichikara was advertising near the end of last year mentioned preparation for an IPO too, be hilarious to see people numberfagging over company stock prices if they both go ahead with one

>>2535647
Did the vshoujo stream on bilibili? And math lesson time anon 63/76,000 is less than a penny. Meaning even if I find a penny on the street mean I make more than 10 of you dumbasses combine.

>>2535077
https://herp.careers/v1/cover/zkv7I_E4S5Ys
Where in this does it say uk?

>>2535556
Well my Nasfaq reps are about to pay off!

>>2535556
they're going public? damn i might actually consider investing

>>2535556
Coco is actually going to get fired, isn't she?

>>2535077
they're finally opening overseas shops? about goddamn time

>https://cover-corp.com/recruit/future/
The future of Cover...

>>2535928
It is lie anon, try checking the page where he claims it mentioned uk, it is not there.

>>2534660
>business level Japanese

Welp there goes my chance

>>2535928
where do you see that?

>>2534690
They should do this unless they want to end up like Sega in the 90s

You know all this metaverse and being able to interact with the talents in virtual space shit really doesn't interest me. It's too much of an ask from the customer. Typing some shit in chat occasionally while passively watching braindead is one thing but being in some interactive space just seems like a hassle.

>>2535917
Not without tanking the brand. Like >>2534655 said, Hololive fans are loyal to the talents, and generally have nothing but contempt for Cover itself.

If they fire Coco it's highly likely that Friend would walk too (at the very least) which would totally destroy Hololive's public image. At worst, Coco would retire from frontline streaming (as Coco, she'd still be active on her roommate channel) and move into management at Cover.

As an aside, if Chinese money buys into Cover's IPO I guarantee that the Chinese antis will vanish overnight.

>>2536067
People don't care at all about Cover's public image.

>>2535647
The company behind Ai got bought out by the Chinese. She isn't streaming on Bilibili by choice.

>>2536067
An official CCP news outlet already pretty much swept the incident under the rug and called it concluded but the antis are still around, so I doubt they'll just go away.

>>2535917
Kill yourself chink insect

>>2535964
>Overseas Promotion manager
>web designer
>new director of merchandise and prodct planning
>overseas sales representative
maybe i'm reading too much into it but these seem to be positions needed for an expansion in that direction
might be wishful thinking desu

>>2535245
>>2535380
Cope
>>2535709
Eh, maybe for the first week, then Nijifags will get btfo so hard they'll never come out of their hole again

>>2536144
They were if I recall correctly actually advertising specifically for someone to run an international ecommerce site as far back as around mid last year when they were recruiting on wantedly still but nothing came of it yet that I have seen.

I think "sales representative" there means selling the talents. People that butter up companies for sponsorships and collabs when they come looking for one or go out proactively pitching ideas for sponsorships and collabs to companies.

>>2536188
You are delusional if you think Ichikara is doing bad financially.

>>2534874
The difference with Marine (and Matsuri) is they're legitimate perverts, excitedly talking about what they like. They're not trying to sell sexuality as a product like other vtubers. Take the asmr clips that can be bought. Marine has only done one recording session and was so embarrassed by it that she hasn't done another despite the potential cash.

>>2534690
they're already worldwide with EN's huge success

>>2535508
get a rope and neck yourself chink trash. Taiwan is a country. Your ethnic cleansing in Xinjiang will not go unpunished.

>>2536267
Look who's talking. There's no way they're doing well when every signs are pointing down. They're not growing, they're losing viewership, they even closed down their foreign branch recently.

>>2534526
It kinda worries me, I feel they are on route to become the next GameFreak.

>>2536460
That branch was a bad idea to begin with and was doing poorly, closing it doesn't necessarily mean the main company is doing poorly.

>>2536475
Lazy, uncaring, hyper jewish, trying to remove everything good and intent on trying to be as bad as possible? Stepping away from china seems like them doing the opposite of becoming the next gamefreak.

>>2536317
Marine likes ero things but she is nowhere near a pervert. You are too casual if you really belive so. Also your shitty critique is quite opposite to the reality. Marine is very level headed and always draws a line. She just knows the best way to express erotic stuff as a 'humorous show". Her lewd shit in her streams is that of professional comedy while western vtubers are amateur as fuck and can't draw a line because they don't have any professional/sophisticated standards or criteria.

Are people here stupid enough to believe the ceo of a company would burn international bridges like this?

>>2536536
This is some next level cope, lol.

"Marine isn't a whore like those dirty Vshoujo girls, she is a professional whore!!!"

>>2536576
>Are people here stupid
yes

>>2536536
Marine knows how to discuss piss with the utmost sophistication unlike those western whores!

>>2535973
You know damn well it will end up like this
https://www.gamesradar.com/when-peter-moore-said-f-you-to-yuji-naka/
But EN needs to get their shit together and start integrating themselves with JP. ID can do just fine, why the fuck would you need to "4kids" yourself?

>>2536576
If you mean in regards to china, they quite literally did. They did it so hard they removed china from Nene's lore.

NijiEN will mog HoloEN so bad can't wait

>>2536676
That was the right call and it was China's fault though. The long suspension was there to buy time to try and reconcile but China was having none of it, so it was either pull out or watch the whole company collapse.

>>2535556
First, it was coinbase and now this. What a great day

>>2536639
unironically this. Unlike the western whores, she actually able to explain things in a more humorous way

>>2534690
This. It kind of works for ID only because their management is minimal, they don't get in the way of things. EN though is a fucking mess, and all this bureaucracy between the talents is already hurting them. The result is a branch with only five members mostly isolated for at least a year (or whenever gen 2 debut and get past the collab restriction), slowly bleeding. Yes, EN is a massive success, but it is reclining. And only God knows if gen 2 will actually solve this problem instead of being an even more self contained group that will be there indirectly competing with gen 1 for viewership.

>>2534690
The vision of each branch is deliberately different.

That aint a bug, its a feature. Don't think the Japanese idol vision would work out too well in the EN market. Expectations are just too different.

>>2536460
Both Cover and Ichikara released their annual balance last month, they made like 30 million and Ichikara still has an absurd investment stock. The 3rd highest growing company is 774inc by the way, so you don't need crazy high numbers to be doing well.

>>2536942
Do you have a link?

>>2536536
Damn, this is pathetic. Don't put people on pedestals. You'll look like an idiot to everyone else who recognizes your object of worship is still just a person.

>>2536536
stop anon you will trigger the vtrannnies

>>2535556
If it goes public, I will unironically buy a couple hundred thousand of the stock.

>>2535499
you expect stupid newfags to know about this?

>>2536942
30 millions dollars or yens?

>>2535088
Except the foreign audience also buys into Japanese exceptionalism when it comes to entertainment.

>>2534634
The EN and ID branches are getting eliminated. Kiara, Calli, Ina, Ollie, and Moona will be given the option to stay if they speak Japanese at least 70% of the time and phase out their current fanbases.

>>2535586
by just the word IPO (Initial Public Offering), meaning that they will be selling their stocks to the public. Meaning more money for cover to invest for the livers.

>>2534911
cope and meds, they literally just had a collab with Kizuna Ai and Nijisanji yet they keep getting their average viewers. Once NijiEN debut you will see how their numbers decline

>>2536942
I remember something like that. Cover had more profit while ichikara had more overall revenue.

>>2537149
I know nothing of economics, does this mean they will have investors to "please"?
Because as far as I know that's usually a very very bad thing.

>>2536942

>>2536475
Except they put more money into their 3D models than Gamefreak does so you're already wrong.

>>2536687
meds

>>2537250
>Because as far as I know
It is. For the business its good but for costumers its always bad.

>>2535077
things cover should do.txt

>>2536536
The HORNY BOOMER PIRATE meme and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>2537250
it depends. Yagoo is sorta a 'meme ceo' as well, so he might have enough star power to keep trust of the investors when it comes to his plans, kinda like elon musk.

>>2534672
why was CEO of Ichikara featured on Forbes, but Yagoo of Hololive was not

>>2537373
This. You better keep memeing YAGOO so that he doesn't get replaced by some jew

>>2537175
Unironically speaking, does NijiEN even have a chance to shake things off?

>>2535556
If they want to go public, they shouldn't have abandoned China.
Not even a chink (Free Tibet, 1989 Tienanmen Square, Taiwan, etc.), but that's just a shitton of investment opportunity that they won't be getting.

>>2534559
Thinking of applying to one of their positions available, but I imagine it’s tough for baka gaijins to get in.

>>2537471
They're already the biggest vtuber company even without dirty chink money. They really don't need it.

>>2537461
No way. In the west, they're unknown. Hololive is already popular with the west before the EN branch is even a thing. They won't even be able to surpass VShojo.

>>2537471
its not like it was their choice anon. If it was possible to save the market while maintaining their JP and EN markets, they would have done it.

>>2537461
big shake like HoloEn no, and at this point I think Cover is waiting to kill NijiEN hype with the Vsinger debuting the same week

>>2537071
after pandemic is over you will get broke fast

>>2537461
No because they missed the inclining period aka 2020 covid year now every 1 in 4 americans have vaccinated and other western countries are covid free or have less cases

>>2537471
Ditching China beats the collapse of the company.
Firing Coco (and possibily Akai) would have led to the complete loss of any goodwill and faith from the community (and for all the memeing, most people know things could be a LOT worse), Fubuki leaving and probably others too.

>>2537530
If you can speak business level Japanese fluently, are actually competent in your position, are not looking to sexually harass/hit on the talents, and are able to move to Tokyo, I'd imagine you'd have at least some chance.

>>2537461
yes, don't listen to holofags. they lost sense of reality long time ago

>>2537546
nijisanji seems to be more well known than vshojo without even having an international branch yet
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=nijisanji,vshojo

>>2537609
that trends mean nothing when some vshoujos get better numbers than most nijis

>>2537530
don't dare to touch Mel ever again faggot

>>2534526
And people laughed at me when I said they are focusing on VR software and that the 3D shorts were made at house

>>2537572
anon, even if i lost that I would not be hurting much at all. Its a small investment in something I like, nothing more.

>>2537606
anon its time to take your meds

>>2537637
we are talking about the brand awareness here though arent we, you've said they were unknown in the west but apparently there is more interest in them than a company based in the west

>>2537657
just you wait retard. NijiEN will get big

>>2535077
Nice to see they're investing in the Holostars more.
I hope this means there's a gen 4 soon

>>2537682
I'm skeptical but I'll be happy if they do well.

>>2537252
総調達額 Total amount raised (billion yen)
評価額 valuation
last is valuation date

>>2537682
meds time

>>2537670
ok, they are not unknown but there is no way they will maintain ironmouse or nyanners numbers maybe the first weeks but then its just a dead flop

>>2537670
Not him but those people aren't potential Nijisanji viewers. Just look at what they're searching.

This is the third time I've heard Metaverse mentioned in a press release this week

>>2534526
>vtuber culture can only be created in Japan
>expanded to China, Indonesia, and America
is he retarded?

>>2537770
originated in Japan and overtook the world, what is so hard to understand

>>2537741
vtuber, kanae nijisanji, nijisanji id, nijisanji reddit and nijisanji wiki show as the top 5 related queries for me

>>2537682
anon I want as much as you to see them do well but the hype era was in 2020, Ichikara doesnt have a good record with overseas branches and probably Cover will make the vsinger chuubas debut the same week to kill the hype

>>2537596
Yeah I’m fairly competent in my company, but got no technical proficiency in Japanese. Maybe someday.
>>2537645
I like Mel though, she’s a good girl.

>>2537791
the first vtuber was american

>>2537540
Both Cover and Ichikara have investors that have Chinese investors. Unless you mean in the form of superchats and fan support for Cover.

>>2537817
Kizuna Ai was first. no one cares about your irrelevant shit

>>2537845
you will never be japanese, or as successful as the orange

>>2537857
go back.

>>2537802
They also turned some people off by killing off a branch right before the launch of a new one

>>2534526
Fuck, the new website is one those single-page scrolldown thingies. I hate that.

English speaking Nijisanji already exist. Why the fuck do you think having more of them will make a difference? HoloEN are successful only because they're Hololive.
Nijisanji viewers are only there for Kuzuha. They don't care about the company or the members. They're not like Hololive fans that are trying to support everyone by following them and watch every important streams from every members.

>>2537900
I think if nijis like idk mito, or himawari do collabs with nijiEN maybe they will be alright

>>2535191
that's exactly the meme

>>2537948
they need at least a thousand

>>2537843
If you called HTC as True Chinese investor then i'm not gonna disagree to that face.

Still better than fake chinese on the mainland.

>>2535599
only 1 VSinger?

>>2537997
It’s unknown. The assumption is only 1.

>>2535647
LARP better

>>2537997
we dont know, yet her debut its taking too much time so maybe there is gonna be more than one

I only hope idiots who think like >>2498587 don't make it.

>>2535508
>Profitable
I would genuinely argue that South America is a more profitable market for Vtubers than Chinkland

>>2537252
I see Brave Group
what's this about

>>2537900
Yeah because HoloID members that speak English do the same numbers as HoloEN don't they?

>>2538060
this is a massive reach

>>2537900
It’s what i noticed with a lot of overseas fans is that they only follow a few of them and more or less ignore the rest of the company.
And the more casual people don’t realize the liver they watch is even part of it.

>>2537373
Well yes, but this also creates a single weak link on the top.
And that link will snap the moment that public money wants to go back to Chinese market
Those Business suits don't give flying fuck about some internet drama, they just want more money

Conclusion: Hologirls and fans are going to take the fallout from that, and worst part is we don't really want to vote with our wallets and walk away...

>>2537934
Like I said, Nijisanji fans aren't the same as Hololive. Mito and Himawari's fans will not support EN members just because they collabed. Most of them will not watch the collab in the first place.

>>2538080
yes

>>2537252
Aren’t these figures almost a year old

>>2535161
Proper translation then ? Anyone

>>2538060
i dunno look at bilibili it seems to bring in around 600-700million yen in superchat a month currently. that is like 3-4 hololives.

>>2535191
Remember this time last year they had 20 employees

>>2534911
If you think higher numbers will turn vshojo into actual chuubas, you are gravely mistaken. They are lacking in the most crucial aspect.

>>2538060
>South America
>profitable
peruANO here, DYRBI? The only notorious vtuber from this region is CHINGA TU MADRE, and drama follows everywhere.

>>2538240
maybe he is talking about VOD views?

>>2538121
they really don't though and on top of that the amount of interest they got was boosted by the EN branch massively

>>2535293
>Group member spergs out on stream about politics and how its not morally right to stay quiet.
>Wont talk about Uyghurs, Taiwan or HK.
KEK

So are they going back into the Chinese market or not? I don't understand any of this shit.

>>2538451
no

>>2538451
Once you leave China you can’t return.

>>2538520
nobody should return to that shithole and get that blood money anyway.

>>2538574
Being in China is a ticking time bomb.
At some point they will demand your loyalty to them.

>>2535077
This is how the SJWs enter.

>>2538614
Let's hope the japanese autism keeps them away.

>>2535077
These companies really have a lot of jobs going even though they have so many staff already. Both Cover and Ichikara have around 150 current employees each but they both have around 30 positions advertised on their recruitment pages currently.

>>2538742
Cover has a lot less

>>2538768
No they don't its literally right there on their website that they have 154 employees.

>>2536675
>But EN needs to get their shit together and start integrating themselves with JP
Hire more bilinguals
Hire extraverts
EN/ID/JP all on the same server for Minecraft 1.17 release

Thats a start

>>2537392
Ever heard of businessinsider?

>>2535077
>growing company in the UK
Is UK the most cost-effective move they can make for the EN site? Seems like costly for a business that mostly digital?

>>2537252
give us figure after the end of 2020 or when Holo EN come out. This data is outdated now. See how much Cover Corp grow so much last year must have changed this figure

>>2538905
i dont know where he got uk from cant see it anywhere on the website

>>2535077
> Simping for your favorite Oshi
I sleep
> Simping for Yagoo and his entire company
Real shit?

>>2534853

As the ID girls say, "HALU"

>>2538988
*clap* *clap*

>>2536144
Barring wishful thinking I'd be really surprised if its anything else anon. EN proved that there is a demand for the holo products worldwide and having to ship everything from Japan isnt always the best option cost wise on both sides. Yagoo mentioning how he needs to revalue some of his visions as a company in his post and mentions the culture of hololive and being trusted worldwide isnt a subtle point of view and kinda bares naked his intentions. If you hold your breath till next year I can guarantee hololive products on their own overseas website.

Don't forget to praise Yagoo daily for enabling us all. Praise!

>>2539222
I’d buy way more merch if I didn’t have to pay fucking $30 on shipping.

>>2538187
Nyanners averages 25K per stream

>>2539630
Do you have any photoshopped screenshots to back that up?

>>2539630

>>2535647
You can have Vshoujo. I don't want it.
As long as Hololive remains, and stays out of China, I am happy.

>>2539630
tales from your ass: the post

Fuck all this smart investing bullshit.
If Cover do an IPO, I'm sinking a whole bunch of money into them, and holding forever, just because I like Hololive.

>>2539630
Ogey

>>2539630
She can't even break 10k, and all of vshoujo put together could barely drum up 20k total for veibae's debut, and that's with the obvious spam and viewbots

I hope there's an archive of all their videos I can watch once I've started learning Japanese when everything comes crashing down.
On a side note, once Cover sells out and Hololive gets ruined, I'm gonna miss you guys.

>>2539796
We just like the stock.

I kinda don't want them to though. Don't want any of the talents to be whored out to faceless investors on board meetings

>>2540057
Same, anon. It will ruin the magic of Hololive IMO.

>>2539841
not like this vtrannies...

>>2539914
meds

>>2534526
Aunno, sounds kinda drunk. Maybe, I'm drunk. Are we drunk now, anon?

>>2540057
>>2540112
EN is the first step to "selling out". It's already happening. Vtubing was never going to stay some precious secret club forever.

>>2534608
HololiveEN exist pretty much thanks to early 20s EN indie Vtubing boom.
Saying that only Japan can create Vtubing is very fucking dishonest and factually untrue. Kinda sucks to see YAGOO going that route, i respected him but in this case he's just another corporate prick i guess?

Yagoo giving his daughter Sora away at our virtual wedding when?

>>2540297
>he's just another corporate prick i guess?
uh yeah? what, did you think he was your vtuber buddy? he's a businessman.

>>2540297
>>2540351
stupid EOPs >>2535093

>>2540297
>HololiveEN exist pretty much thanks to early 20s EN indie Vtubing boom.
Anon...?
It's mostly due to Fubuki infecting algorithm leading people to watching clips

>>2538957
they've undoubtedly grown, but I seriously doubt they've quadrupled in valuation.

>>2540515
fubuki and pekora were the first ones to get into my youtube recs 2 years ago so this checks out

>>2537250
as long as the company is 51% of yagoo, it may be a pretty good thing.
but once the company has its control pulverized on to investors, it will go down to shit.
the great individuals theory is right and some individuals cannot be substituted for a model, we have been seeing that a lot on the last decades.

>>2534526
>>We believe that VTuber is a culture that can only be created in Japan, and is unique to Japan.
Baseball was created by the west and Japanese adopted it. Animation was created by the west yet the Japanese managed to make their own cultural spin on it.

Yet the west cant do their own spin on Vtubing?

>>2540659
I mean... Vshojo exists.

>>2538100
well if they lose their main market and EN in the process, that's not making more money is it? They made this calculation already. I won't rule out returning to the chinese market forever in its entirety, but if they do, I don't think its going to be with their main branch, and the group will be pretty far seperated from them, like with VirtuaReal. In anycase there first has to be a sign that they are wanted back and that there is profit to be made by them, and that is not happening.

>>2534608
Americans are the best at creating all forms of media and culturally significant things EXCEPT when making anything animated or cute. westerners as a whole are retarded when it comes to making anything cute.

>>2540769
minor counterpoint to that is classic Disney films from the 90's and decades earlier. but apart from that, yes modern day westerners can't do cute things or culturally significant animated things.

ITT: drones

>>2540721

Holo translated clips still have super high views there but they are not going to state their desire of holo products without being labelled as china betrayer. It is mostly just that group of nga spammers. I doubt holo will return anyway.

>>2537682
Screencap

>>2540682
>Twitch
>Vtuber

>>2540189
The EN branch has been fine.
It's the opposite of selling out when the company actually leaves China

>>2539630

>>2540918
Ultimately not bending over for China and backing out after some uncertainty was the smart move. Their western audience would have eaten them alive. IMO HololiveCN was probably not making them as much as they wanted which made the decision easy.

>>2539630

>>2540721
Don’t forget that assuming Bilibili themselves want them there.
They have their own interest in promoting their vtubers vs their competition.

>>2539796
same, though i won't invest more than I'm willing to lose, i will invest a couple hundred thousand and essentially hold forever... or at least until fubuki leaves.

>>2541010
Yagoo himself said at the time that their foreign branches were not yet profitable. CN still not being profitable even after a year is pretty bad.

>>2539796
This time I can actually say with full confidence that I like the stock

>>2540601
>pekora
>2 years ago
Yeah, no. Pekora was total underdog until her MGS streams.

>>2541086
it's just my personal experience dummy. i first saw fubuki and then started getting pekora in my youtube recs. that's how i found out about it all this.

>>2540297
you mean covid, and I agree. But Vshojo only exists because of Hololive EN's success.

>>2540297
> HololiveEN exist pretty much thanks to early 20s EN indie Vtubing boom.
What are you talking about?

Yyou're overreacting HARD. I don't see how he is wrong either. I mean, how is something like cartoon e-girl/e-boy LARPing supposed to develop in the West?

>>2540659
The West can barely handle and maintain its own thing.

the west often cares more about aspirational content that has to be reflective of like identity or politics whereas japan just makes cute and funny girls because they like cute girls. so yeah, only japan could reasonably pull that off.

>>2540297
>>2541173
See >>2540769

>>2534825
Perfect modern website design!
SasuGUH.

>>2534936
Apple isn't an american innovation as most of its parts are Asian, African and sea.

>>2536608
she is not a whore, she is a prostitute.
Retard

>>2541276
African and SEA innovations... すごい

>>2538060
Sub-america siendo más lucrativo que china... vaya. t.weon

Holo ain't going back to bilibili with the new rules. These just came out today.

>For bili limited stream, you need to register and report your streaming time 2 weeks prior.

This probably means they are going to regulate the content of the streams. Remember the coco incident was because of the restream on bilibili? Those probably aren't allowed either too.

>>2541510
Wall off China. Build a big old wall all around it. On the coast too, fuck 'em they don't get the ocean anymore. Cut all internet cables. Jam their wifi towards the outside.

>>2541510
So AI gonna be even more Chinese focused if she can’t restream?
Her numbers are shit anywhere other than Bilibili

>>2535225
>>2535383
>>2535572
>>2536411
>>2538060
>>2535636
You retards are too easy to bait

>>2541510
This is why the best Tia content is on her Twitch and not Bilibili

>>2541510
Link to the announcement?

>>2535588
Please no.

>>2542766
they would never kick Yagoo, he is too much of a brand by now. Don't worry

>>2542883
No, but they could hamstring the people who allowed Hololive to be so autonomous, or bring in people with odd ideas of what works and what doesn't in entertainment (likely Japanese). If you've seen what happened with Towa these past few months, you'll get what I'm talking about.

>>2538060
BR Vtubers and Portuguese speaking vtubers Lets go

>>2540918
Oblivious retard at least google translate the post yagoo made about EN and "expanding globally", this was always the end goal.

>>2540721
>well if they lose their main market and EN in the process, that's not making more money is it?
that's the problem, they can't see the issues because they don't live on the ground level.
There are no community managers passing reports higher up in the chain. They are effectively blind past google analytics

>>2535077
PLEASE DONT LET A SINGLE TRANNY PASS YAGOO-SAN

>>2534526
There is literally nothing that japan can do better than the US lol.

>>2545329
that's a lot of openings bro

>>2535077
>We are looking for a PR person for our overseas business!
>431-1 "Holostars" event production producer
!!!

>>2545387
agree, you guys are best when it comes to being retards, gz!

>>2543000
I dont follow Towa, what happened with her?

>>2536929
>Don't think the Japanese idol vision would work out too well in the EN market. Expectations are just too different
It already worked out great. It's kind of the reason for their success...

>>2545783
>New "Cute" model. (Looks like she's starting to become Lamy.)
>Less expressive.
>Using the high-pitched nasal voice whenever she remembers to.
>Trying to appeal to the JOPs who heckled her through all of last year.
>Being more of a unicorn and less of a beloved dork.

>>2545999
Whose?

>>2546087
Seems to be on her more than on management

>>2535556
... Buy early or wait for prices to drop?

>>2537843
>>2537967

HTC -> Taiwanese -> True Chinese
Based if you're implying that mainland China are actually an inferior form of the True Chinese (Taiwan)

>>2535077
all that shit and not a fucking yen for someone to assist the talent.

>>2542883
I mean Steve Jobs was kicked out of Apple once

>>2537637
Most nijisanji have better numbers than vshoujo though? Like, there's more than 15 above them in live viewers lol

>>2541510
People forget that even without the Taiwan yab, Cover won't be able to stay in the Chinese market anyway because of the new rules. It will kill non-china based vtuber.

>>2546377
Maybe, but it happened around the time management doubled down on JP talents being for JP audiences, and EN being for EN audiences.
That's why I'm suspicious of them.

>>2546087
Because basing your fanbase on people who don't understand you is a stupid decision. It's not sustainable. That's why she's trying to pander to JOPs

>>2535556
Any idea when they're coming out? Symbol?
>>2547300
1.) She's been picking up quite a bit of English.
2.) We have active translators in most of her streams.

>>2541510
What does the rest of the text there say?

>>2537461
>Unironically speaking, does NijiEN even have a chance to shake things off?
yes

Especially if they hire bilingual talent that can collab with Western and Japanese vtubers.

>>2546792
more than 15 of how many? 100 chuubas?

>>2546087
Based JOP know what I want. No wonder she is not doing eigo reps

>>2536536
This anon is completely correct, but is either underage, ESL, or of a low IQ, or some combination of the 3 and as such can't articulate himself properly.
What he's looking for is more than likely the concept of 'grace'.
Also, the guy he was replying to was actually defending Marine...

>>2547248
How the fuck did Nijis manage to stay in CN market then

>>2536608
Unironically this, and there is a massive difference in respectability between the two.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather have a high class escort than some unwashed crackhead off the streets.

>>2547287
Makes sense, but Towa rarely ever tried to speak English outside of superchat in the first place. There is also the fact she said in a member stream around the start of the year that she wouldn't do one on one male collab. This is in the same stream she said she found her manager annoying so I think it's likely her own choice

>>2547819
Niji doesn’t run their CN branch. Bilibili does.
Also they already called Taiwan, Taipei officially.

>>2539880
>All of Vshojo for a debut stream can't reach shark's nightly westcoast-only average
Vshobros...?

>>2539630
VOD views maybe

>>2547773
>Based JOP know what I want.
Go watch Lamy.
>>2547937
It's a pretty specific type of stream, and it won't get between her and her APEX idols if she brings a friend along. At the worst, it just means no more Christmas date streams, and I don't think all that many people minded.

>>2538401
On stream? I thought it was just on twitter

>>2538100
>and worst part is we don't really want to vote with our wallets and walk away...
Nah, I will. My love for my oshi ends where her money grubbing begins. Thankfully, she hasn't been put in any 'quit the company or maintain your integrity moments', but if she is, I hope she'll follow Friend's example.

>>2535077
HolostarsEN confirmed

>>2534780
Hololive anime when?

>>2535025
>he pretends fucking nyanners is good
holy shit bugman, take your meds

Looking at capital stock for both Cover and Ichikara now that Cover has updated their site

Cover: 452,808,545円 (~$4,155,979)
Ichikara: 2,641,914,764円 (~$24,248,778)

>>2534526
that's how hololive work all this time and they're succesfull

>>2534526
they're already prepared something if vtuber not booming

Come on cunny I mean shark, lets guuuuoooooohhhhhhh