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25330046 No.25330046 [Reply] [Original]

Let's analyze her downward spiral. Here's a basic timeline of events. Feel free to correct it or add to it.
>start out as a streamer in NND that sometimes did stuff with webcam
>her most loyal paypigs (Crisu, Sakuya, maybe Aaron) discover her, and push her to vtubing because of her incredible merit of being an attractive girl
>Miki debuts
>she is accepted in Tsunderia, problems with management, namely that her manager was as much as introvert as her that offered no guidance, and the prospect of a better payday lead her to quit in order to to Nijisanji
>Miki briefly returns, then she graduates in May of last year
>Rosemi debuts, everyone's favorite little seiso ojou-sama
>wins people over with her enthusiasm, her contrived naivete, her cuteness, her drive, and hardworking persona (she is doing an internship on top of vtubing)
>at the time of Rosemi's debut, two things are happening: Mikifags are over the moon because she'll finally be streaming by herself away from her overbearing helicopter parents (mom mostly)
>Miki spoke in whispers because of embarrassment of doing what she did out of her parents home
>meanwhile Tsunderiafags are seething with ire because she supposedly got in via connections (with Domo and the tranny shark) and got special treatment, as she was the only one to debut with an original song (yes, the the tone deaf girl got an original song to herself), she barely streamed and left them almost as soon as she debuted. she was also the only loli of the group
>they only make waves /here/ and it was very short-lived, by October Rosemi has everyone wrapped around her finger and she's /vt/'s favorite NijiEN, holofags beg to have her constantly
>all throughout Rosemi constantly mentions how much of a drag her job is, she frequently sleeps very little in order to stream, she'd do guerillas just because she wanted to stream, she'd stream in between job breaks and yearned to be free so she could be full-time and show us what she could really do
>keep in mind, she did creative streams all the while, had a very decent output of members content, had good game selection and her regular content itself was worth supporting with supas and memberships
>the year ends, the new one begins, and rosebuds are happy that March, the month where she'd quit working, inches ever closer
>sometime in late January or early February Nijisanji gets Konami permissions and the game Rosemi decides to pick up is Master Duel - this is the first major shift in her content as YGO becomes a staple of her schedule because of the numbers it brings in
>picks up Sekiro, which everyone fucking loses their mind over, but her playthroughs are hard to stomach because she treats it more like an open world game and despite chat giving her useful advice that may border on backseating but never quite got their (unlike her YGO streams where she reads for 2 minutes what something does and needs chat to type out the flowchart), she fumbles her way through the game, but there are points where she struggles a lot and is clearly not having much fun
>March arrives, she is basically fucking sleep deprived, but she does it, she quits her job, has a big celebration, announces a 3-day break
>she goes to what is in my mind the best stream of the year, the besties off collab and meets up with Millie, Enna and Elira and they give us a hell of a stream
>Rosemi is riding high and seems unstoppable

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>>25330046
>>by October Rosemi has everyone wrapped around her finger and she's /vt/'s favorite NijiEN, holofags beg to have her constantly
Lol what, that is and always has been Pomu. Do former rosebuds really?

>>Rosemi is riding high and seems unstoppable
Not even being subtle anymore huh, delusional rosebuds? You do realize Rosemi has always been in the lower half of popularity in general for NiiiEN girls, right?

>> No.25330616

the gradual devolving of /rose/ into whatever the hell this is is so fucking funny to me

>> No.25330668

It Baffles me that this larping nigger hasn't been banned yet

>> No.25330795

>>25330616
Its sad that old fans can't just move on but need to waste their time making garbage bait threads like this

>> No.25330901

thread on your downward spiral when?

>> No.25331073

Straight out the fucking psych ward god damn

>> No.25331079
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>>25330046
>unbeknownst to fucking everyone, Rosemi also meets Nina during this 3-day break, the before she meets up with the other girls. this causes some drama because Rosemi never bothers telling her chat, and because Nina is the one that spilled the beans and also said that prior to going to Europe for the first time, she told Ike that they should travel together (implying Ike is in Canada and met up with Rosemi, or may have done so before without people knowing)
>this is mostly treated as a shitpost and besides the gachikoi's main target of hatred is Luca
>prior to their debut, Rosemi said she was nervous about the guys debuting because they'd bring in "guy humor" and she didn't know if she could handle that
>she also expressed a desire to be more outgoing, as Rosemi, despite being adored by all the girls, didn't really collab often or feel comfortable around anyone that wasn't Selen (going so far as to tell her that she loves her which to her is a big deal, blah blah)
>how viewers interpret that varies, I personally thought she meant she'd organize more collabs like the ones with Pikamee, Mousey and GirlDM
>in any case, after her 3 day break (during which she said her best friend ghosted her) Rosemi's content changes
>all she's doing is collabs, and especially with the guys
>remember how her gachikoi hated Luca, well this stems from the fact that as I said, she didn't really try making friends with the girl because she says she's too shy, but here comes a guy shouting twitchspeak and he and Rosemi become fast friend, faster than she made friends with Selen
>this goes so far to the point of Rosemi stopping what was a great 200k celebration to beg Luca to join VR chat with her and cancel or alter his zatsudan stream. the begging and waiting lasted for like 90 minutes, and them playing another hour
>this was indicative of her new mentality, where she put collabs above her content, and the worst instance of this was a pizza stream she did not prepare for and essentially bailed on for a fucking golf vshojo collab (bad enough that she comments turned off, or if it's that glitch that was happening, shows how little she fucking cares once she's done doing something; playlists, anyone?)
>the output of her creative content becomes more infrequent and less interesting, the best thing she has done this year is Detective Rosemi
>come April, she tells members she's going back to college, meaning she's going to care even fucking less about her content
>her superchat earnings have been less and less since she quit; her May earnings were a meager $5179; she also only got 64 fucking bucks while playing Valorant for 5 fucking hours
>since quitting, Rosemi has half-assed everything, alienated her main fanbase, and whatever's left of it just watches her, they clearly don't like her shit enough to pay her for it
>she has a huge list of games she wants to play, among them the zeldas for N64, Super Metroid, the new Kirby game, New Vegas, the MGS series - has she touched them? No, she continues to play numberfag games when she isn't too busy collabing
>solo streams last less and less
>she fucking dropped Sekiro lmao
>has opted for using her fake laugh instead of her endearing, ugly seagull laugh

>> No.25331206

>>25330503
Pomu has always had and continues to have antis. Rosemi basically never did, the Tsunderiafags gave up pretty quickly. And Holofags either love or absolutely hate Pomu, whereas most still cream themselves over Rosemi despite her shit content output.

>> No.25331285

Her rat assassin king model was pretty great.

>> No.25331438

>>25330046
Fans sure resemble their oshi.
Both are lying cunt.

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>>25331206
>And Holofags either love or absolutely hate Pomu
Yet Pomu and Selen have always been their topic of discussion, including the infamous holobeggers. And try searching for Pomu now in holo threads, see what they're saying for yourself. Do I even need to mention how KFPs in particular wanted their oshi to collab with Pomu for almost a year now?

>Pomu has always had and continues to have antis
/vt/ shitposters and falseflaggers are not holofans.

>whereas most still cream themselves over Rosemi despite her shit content output.
LMAOOOOO, keep dreaming, rosecuck. Imagine actually saying this now after what happened to Rosemi in the last few months. Rosecucks sure are something else.

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>>25330046
>>25331079
I want to begin the discussion by asking you all your opinions on transparency. I think this is one of the biggest reasons why Rosemi also doesn't do zatsudans and often relies on something else to compliment them, most recently VR chat. I honestly think Rosemi doesn't have much going on in life, which is why she either talked about work or talks about her family. Being an introvert that is too hazukashi to make conversation, she only has basically past live experiences to talk about with her chat instead of actually conversing with them, or letting them settle on a topic by simply asking how everyone is and what they've been up to.
Now, having said this, since she talks about her family a lot, and if she does indeed have a relationship is smart enough to not bring it up, she talks about how overbearing her parents are. I'm sure the internship-turned-job thing was their idea. Rosemi was crystal clear from the start that she was in an internship and that she couldn't wait to quit to stream full time. When she announces, a fucking month into being a fulltime streamer, that she's going back to school, that illusion of her being transparent is fucking broken; how do your fans who have been with you from the start, feel about having supported you all this fucking time only for you to basically say
>yeah i'm only going full-time a little while, i'm going back to school tee-hee
I'm convinced this was the reason her SC earning dipped even further in May.
I think that in Rosemi's case, talking about her work life in such a half-assed manner fucked her over.. If fans didn't know she was working on top of streaming, they might not have become as endeared to her, but they also wouldn't have the expectations that the content quality, effort and output would have been better once she quit. And being blindsided with the college thing just adds salt in the wound because they now have to contend with just accepting this, making some feel lied to or scammed. Rosemi needed to be upfront about EVERYTHING she planned to do from the start because she can't talk about anything other than herself. Ideally this is stuff you don't mention and something you keep to yourself.

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25331816

Another day, another failure of a Rosemi stream

>> No.25331877

>>25331073
>>25330901
>>25330668
back to your dying dead obsydia general, rosebuds. maybe throw rosemi some change when she streams, it's like your pushing to graduate faster.
>>25331724
Selen is shitposting material. Yes, things change and people are very endeared to Pomu and I know KFP and Pomudachi's wet dream is for a collab between them, but the point still stands. Now they both have antis from, and some are from Hololive, but the fact remains that while Pomu may have had more support, Rosemi in her prime basically ONLY had support, no antis. Pomu did.
Now it ain't fucking close, Pomu is the overall better streamer, has more fans and less antis.

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>>25330046
>>25331079
>>25331762

>> No.25332205

I made 2 Rosemi shitposts threads.
I didn't make this one. Please rosecucks, stop saying all of them are made by one person. Reading this every other thread has given me identity issues.

>> No.25332347

>>25332205
It was your other personality. wake up

>> No.25332364

>>25332177
faggot

>> No.25332687

>>25330046
She still kinda cute tho

>> No.25332881

>>25330046
do nijicucks really think their luxiem/noxict cumdumpsters deserve so much attention? Fuck off with this bitch, nobody cares. All of them are done at this point.

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People might think this thread is just bait but these posts (>>25331079, >>25331762) are actually quite informative. Her basically lying and keeping the fact that she planned on going back to college from her viewers must have been one of the biggest factors in Rosemi's recline. The timeframe in the superchat data also supports this.

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>>25330046
>>25331079

Holofag here.
Read both your posts and wanted to thank you for the summary. I was a niji en watcher for a couple month but had to stop for gen 3 and nijihomo related ressons.
I wondered what happened to Rosemi. Sad to hear shes now a bumbling collab rag but it seems her detractors were right in the long term. She doesnt have it in herself to do this as a job long term.

>> No.25333409

>>25330046
If you pay me I will read this whole OP

>> No.25333425

>>25333367
Thanks for the input holofag who admitted not watching them

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>>25330046
>>25330901
I am the voice inside your head
(And I control you)
I am the lover in your bed
(And I control you)
I am the sex that you provide
(And I control you)
I am the hate you try to hide
(And I control you)

>> No.25333505

ok

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25333573

I ain't reading that.
I'd say I'm sorry but I'm really not.
Pic unrelated

>> No.25333581

>>25333505
meds

>> No.25333622

Holy fucking schizo. Did the ficklebuds guy didn't take his meds today?

>> No.25333700

>>25330046
>>25331079
>>25331762
I read all that.

Sorry that happened.

>> No.25333737

I love how Rosebuds look at a detailed explanation and timeline and scream schizo, meanwhile any other post calling her a whore is sane. Or them, bumping a zombie thread where no one talks about anything.

>> No.25333846

>>25333737
>meanwhile any other post calling her a whore is sane
No those are also schizos
Hope that helps.

>> No.25333853

>>25333737
Anyone who makes posts this long on 4ch is a schizo regardless of content

>> No.25334033

>>25333737
>>25333846
>>25333853
None of them are schizos because they're just gossips. They're as schizophrenic as the average high school girl. Stop romanticizing them by making them sound edgy and mentally ill.

>> No.25334038

>>25333737
For all intent and purposes, these threads might as well be the new /rose/ now, since the discussion everyone have here are unironically multitude of times more interesting than Rosemi's content anyway.

>> No.25334142

>>25334033
A high school girl who writes anonymous essays about drama is also probably schizophrenic. They aren't mutually exclusive.

>> No.25334263

if there actually are any former rosebuds in this thread, is there anything that would get you to watch her again? or has she lost you forever?

>> No.25334597

>>25334263
this week is a move in right direction to me
>plays single player games and actually talks to her chat
>member stream
>guerilla just to hang out on Sunday
>collabs only on 2 days instead of being scattered throught the entire week
If she starts playing some more interesting stuff and keeps at the current trend for a month or two I will give her another chance. Currently I just don't believe that she has what it takes to maintain steady content at decent level, too much lazy streams/collab spam to celebrate after one week. So 1-2 months are a minimum for me to win me over again.

>> No.25334619

>>25334263
Less collabs, more zatusdans, playing good games, actually preparing for handcam and creative streams. And more transparency. What does she want out of vtubing? How long will she keep doing it for?
I doubt she'll fucking change, though.

>> No.25334770

>>25331816
LMAO

>> No.25334787
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25334787

NijiEN as a whole declined severely in quality thanks to Luxiem and specifically Luca whom everyone copies in their humour.
People give Nina shit for leeching but so so all the other girls.
And because of how vtubing works Nijisanji prioritizes male streamers who can put on the softboy peggable submissive malewife shtick 24/7 instead of fun and charismatic people.
>BUT VOX
MUH FNAF MUH BITE OF 87 EVERYONE CLAP PLEASE
It's really funny to me that when he and Selen collabed with a bunch of OW pro players and she egged him on to do his usual FNAF autist routine he declined because he's around real people who would mock him for it instead of vtubers who will celebrate him.

Shit is so boring lately in the branch, only a few girls still fucking try but yet they cram their schedules with lazy collabs and repeat the same 3 jokes over and over again.

I don't have any subs or memberships anymore and rather watch TV shows again.

>> No.25335037

>>25330616
spbp

>> No.25335119

>>25330046
>holofags beg to have her constantly
I don't recall this bit in actual Hololive threads. I remember a lot of Pomu hype, but I only remember one rosebud who would occasionally post Rosemi images but act like it was an image of Mori.

>> No.25335217

>>25335119
>but I only remember one rosebud who would occasionally post Rosemi images but act like it was an image of Mori.
Oh hey, I think he same guy did the reverse in /NijiEN/

>> No.25335663

>>25334787
Luxiem is definitely where things sharply went downhill, even on /vt/
/nijien/ is now almost entirely women

>> No.25335672

>>25331877
Pomu did not have antis, i.e. posters that constantly talk about how she sucks, she's a whore, her streams are terrible, etc. What happened was that she was a shitposting target for tribalfags on account of being the most popular female niji.

>> No.25335862

Even 5ch has mostly abandoned her and she was their darling

>> No.25335931

>>25335862
This is actually pretty sad to hear. She used to be one of the most popular NijiEN members on 5ch but now... how did she screw up this bad?

>> No.25335959

>>25335663
Yeah its really sad. Luxiem ruined nijiEN. Everyone's content declined after their influence

>> No.25336024

>>25335931
they talk about random koreans more than her

>> No.25336100

>>25334142
No, they aren't. Loads of normal, well-socialized high school girls do this, just usually not anonymously, and usually about celebrities or people at their school rather than ecelebs. It's not schizophrenia. It's a buzzword, same as how people use autism to just refer to liking something. Nothing in this thread is any more schizophrenic than something on TMZ or Perez Hilton.

>> No.25336109

>>25335931
Read the OP

>> No.25336128

desu i was hoping in an anti thread kinda disappointed OP ngl

>> No.25336160

>>25336128
please learn english before posting

>> No.25336896

The funny thing is that Rosemi was the ojou-sama for NijiEN until Salome debuted and they all forgot about the rose whore kek

>> No.25337117

>>25333853
Back before you came here in 2020 people actually wrote posts that were more than just a single sentence of buzzwords, believe it or not.

>> No.25337246

>>25337117
You say this is as if people back then were any saner.

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>>25336896
Tbf Rosemi kinda dropped the ojou shtick for the most part a few months after debut. Back when she first debuted she would call her viewers pig and do soft bdsm routines with them (which is why her mascot is buta instead of any plant/flower based creature). I feel like she kinda lost her identity and didn't fully build another one.

>> No.25337374

>>25336100
If you go out of your way to catalogue someone you've never met's "fall from grace" there's something wrong with you mentally.
The fact that this kind of thing is common with celebrities doesn't mean it's normal, it means that there is something deeply wrong with humans to make it so common.

>> No.25337431

>>25337374
>it means that there is something deeply wrong with humans to make it so common.
Yeah, that's called being a woman.

>> No.25337475

>>25337350
I'm still surprised someone who acted as pure and seiso as her went that route. I also remember a surprising number of "seed" jokes at the beginning

>> No.25337598

>>25337374
>fall from grace stuff is schizo
> when vids like that have milions of views on youtube because people love "what went wrong" scenarios
> when gossips and drama are 99% of modern entertainment
>when everyone knows watching a trainwreck always attracts an audience
unironically fags thinking shit like that is something unusual are more schizo that people creating those threads. you are trying to disprove something that's been a part of human nature as something since forever. time to step out to real world, sheltered faggot.

>> No.25337615

>>25337374
Normativity is a completely descriptive quality. Making up stories about the psychologies and motivation of successful people based on minor perceived transgressions of social norms a completely normal prosocial behaviour, especially for women, as we have daily proof with the Depp/Heard drama. Just because gossiping is tedious and obnoxious doesn't make it mentally ill or non-normative. Calling it schizophrenic actually makes it sound edgy and almost cool.

>> No.25337720

>>25337615
*is a completely normal...

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>>25337475
It's funny to me that people unironically think Rosemi is super seiso when what is essentially her having sex with Pomu was one of the first interactions she had with another NijiEN member. And it's not the usual one-sided Pomu wapes Wosemi meme, Rosemi clearly knows what she's doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EzQSRkeo0E

>> No.25338364

>>25338073
And then she put Pomu sekuharaing her in Rosemi Night Live too, so it's not like it was JUST in the beginning.

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>>25334787
Yeah I dropped niji after the pomu-finana-uki offkai. But I dropped it mentally after the male debut. Things just haven't been the same. I follow some of them on twitter and its just disgusting, the male humor is extremely crass, crude, or dumb and its affecting the girls humor. Vox just tweeted today how he wants to fuck a girl its just too much for me I'm just a simple rosebud and pomu person but it all became so vulgar

>> No.25338591

>>25338375
You're such a faggot, holy shit.
Are you also the person that said NijiEN reminds him of being excluded while in high school?

>> No.25338742

>>25338375
Same, I watch tons of dudes on Twitch:
ATP, Elajjaz, Brex, Sodapoppin, Cirno, Alkaizer, CohhCarnage, Mathil, Lobos, Distortion, Trizze, a couple more I probably check every now and then. All of them are miles ahead of Luxiem/Noctyx trash in terms of personality and/or gaming skills. They are overrated to the point where boring fags like Shu or Ike not only get a pass but an entire fanbase of "kya he's so cute" pigs squealing at them.

>> No.25338841

>>25338375
Why amerimutts like this?

>> No.25338996

>>25331816
Meanwhile Pomu made like 10 times that during a membership stream where she was painting with watercolors.

>> No.25339218

>>25338364
At least she knows everyone wants to rape her.

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>>25335672
>Pomu did not have antis, i.e. posters that constantly talk about how she sucks, she's a whore, her streams are terrible, etc.
We used to call those "rosebuds" in the main general. Now we call them rosecucks. They0ve been shitting on Pomu for 9 months and saying how Rosemi is better in every aspect and that Pomudachis should jump ship. But then Karma decided it was enough and gave us that amazing Jackbox collab that made it clear how much of a talentless whore Rosemi is.

>> No.25339318

The person who makes these threads is borderline insane. Lolcow tier schizo

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25339494

>another bullshit thread

>> No.25339511

>>25339318
>i-its just one guy!
Rosecucks need a new cope.

>> No.25339617

>>25330046
>speaking this brazenly about PL in the OP
Reminder that if you made a post like this about any of the HoloEN girls, you'd get hit with a 30-day. But it's okay here because who cares about nijis amirite?

>> No.25339622

>>25338073
I liked how in detective Rosemi the setting she gave Finana and Reimu was them masturbating violently (or having sex) all night while watching hentai

>> No.25339829

REMINDER THAT ROSEMI STREAMS STARTED BECOMING SHIT AFTER HER NEW BLACK MALE NEIGHBOR MOVED IN

>> No.25340193

>>25339318
I get that feeling from 90% of the threads on this board. If /vt/ was a trial run for what an /eceleb/ board would be like i hope it tells hiroshimoot that it would be used almost entirely by psychos

>> No.25340381

>>25330046
Me on the left

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>>25339622
Kek, I forgot this was actually a thing. She also was not subtle about it at all since she remarked it was "Anime 2", which is codeword for hentai in the middle of the sequence.
https://youtu.be/AIFD-CuVZKA?t=3286

>> No.25340870

>*autistic rambling*
>lol meds
>"i-it's just one guy" haha cope rosecucks
the funniest part is that it actually unironically is just one guy

>> No.25340953

>>25340870
>>25332205
I ASKED YOU TO STOP OK :< rosecucks pls : <

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Rosecucks are the most pathetic fanbase, even more than fishfags.

>> No.25341088

it really is just falseflaggers in here huh
whatever, have fun

>> No.25341311

>>25341088

Theres more genuine posters here than on salamis sub counter.

>> No.25341573

>>25340870
Yeah, (You)

>> No.25341712

It's pretty depressing feeling how there's a lack of life in chat during her streams when the JP version of an ojou-sama is literally breaking records.

>> No.25341735

You'll thank us for those threads one day, Rosecucks. It's tough love but still love.

>> No.25341792

>>25335663
Even worse, zoomer women who think "pog" is peak comedy

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>>25341088
It's not. On a completely unrelated thread, we have multiple posters with different opinions expressing the same notion.
>>25057639
>>25079342
Not to mention the whole superchat earning (>>25331816, >>25332927) and 5ch thing (>>25335862).

But keep coping and pretends this isn't a real thing, rosekeks.

>> No.25342034

hey alright

>> No.25342195

>>25341939
I still like Rosemi a lot but yeah I do feel her content has declined and the collab spam is annoying. I'll still support her and I hope she can make a turnaround at some point, maybe she's just burned out. Recently I just haven't found myself looking forward to her streams as much as I used to.
Well that being said 90% of these threads is more blatant hatred, flaming, and personal attacks on her rather than any form of criticism.
This anti-threads actually been pretty tame in comparison to the past ones.

>> No.25342253

>>25342195
There is nothing stopping the whore from taking a break. God knows she needs one. A longer one after she quit, too.

>> No.25342302

>>25342253
I'll ignore the name calling.
I wish she would take a break to relax if she needs one, but she was even afraid of doing a mere 3 day break. Which didn't even end up being a break at all.
She's her own worst enemy right now

>> No.25342493

>>25331079
I'm still traumatized by the pizza stream.

>> No.25342894

>>25334263
She needs to do something that is actually funny/enjoyable to her, preferably solo, but I don't really care if she does collabs like the Switch Sports with Alban if they include chat in their interactions. I just want to see her speak and laugh sincerely.

>> No.25342965

I don't really have anything against Rosemi but there's a limit to how high pitched of a voice I can listen to and Petra's vtuber voice is pretty much my maximum upper limit.

>> No.25343106

has anyone realized how rosemi brings up the noctyx theme every time she can? i thought she was fucking luca or maybe it's to make him jealous?

>> No.25343144
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>>25330046
You forgot the niji male arc here mate..

>> No.25343831

>>25343144
No i didn't
>>25342195
Why support someone who makes content you dislike? What is the logic behind this?

>> No.25343830

>>25338742
But shu is literally sykkuno

>> No.25343848

>>25343830
REALLY?!

>> No.25343953

>>25343830
is sykkuno on that list? no? exactly
offline tv adjacent content is shit
for some reason nijis are in love with them and lmaosorandom twitch emote spam humor. how the fuck can someone consider repeating "pog/poggers" every 5 seconds fun to listen is beyond me.

>> No.25343991

>>25343953
>for some reason nijis are in love with them
Well, Elira and Sykkuno have been friends for a long time...

>> No.25344063

>>25337350
that whole shtick never fit her IMO, she oozes sub aura

>> No.25344110

>>25343848
No

>> No.25344450

>>25339617
Holo board, Jannies one sided to HoloEN especially Leanbeat. You post PL and doxx HoloJP and jannies won't bat eyes. This board is fucking retards containment

>> No.25344665

>>25343831
I didnt say I disliked it entirely. I still like Rosemi and like watching her for being her, but her content is definitely not as good as it used to be.

>> No.25344851

>>25344665
How are you satisfied with her just parroting what others say and whose best quality is being cute? That's what jumpstarted her career, it's her identity, it's her talent. And it's not enough as a vtuber.

>> No.25344999

>>25343953
This. And the spamming I Looooooveeee .. Fuck that shit.

>> No.25346158

>>25344999
Being charitable, they mostly do it to fill dead air in games or when someone mentions Luca. In streams where they actually have to talk to each other they don't do it as much.
But it really does come across as an attempt of high schoolers having an in-joke.

>> No.25346373

you guys got the letter already what the fuck do you guys want

>> No.25346478

>>25346373
Effort, Rosemi. We want fucking effort from your lazy ass.

>> No.25346641

>>25346373
I just want her to be happy

>> No.25346803

>>25346373
Real answer: The immediate removal of all male members of NijiEN, and the arrest of Luca Kaneshiro.

>> No.25346804

>>25346373
we just want Rosemi to be like Pomu when it comes to effort
she did a 180 after quitting which is fucking scummy

>> No.25349149

>>25331816
I have to wonder how often she thinks of graduation seeing shit like this.

>> No.25350105

>>25331816
That kinda sad....

>> No.25350423

>>25331816
You get what you fucking deserve. You treat your fans like shit, you get shit for it.

>> No.25350902

BUSTIN BUSTIN BUSTIN

>> No.25351089

>>25350902
womp womp

>> No.25351199
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25351199

Rosebuds you can always start watching Pomu, she's like Rosemi but superior in every single way possible.

>> No.25351466

>>25351199
How the turntables except this is ACTUALLY true.

>> No.25351653

>>25351199
funny that you say that, before rosemi debuted, I was all in on pomu, but then switched over to rosemi because she was really based and kino in the beginning, but now I find myself watching pomu more than rosemi even though i'm still a day 1 rosebud

>> No.25352869

>>25351199
>>25351653
The letter yab is a good example. No, I haven't gone crazy over it nor her lack of apology, but Rosemi privating the post vs Pomu fucking up and saying
>oh well, you guys get a freebie
That's EXACTLY how situations like that shouod be handled.

>> No.25353173

>>25352869
I don't even care about no retarded gfe letter, her content got stale for me, and she just doesn't entertain me like she used to.

>> No.25353315

>>25353173
Anon isn't talking about the letter's content, he's talking about how both Pomu and Rosemi fucked up by making what was supposed to be a members-only content public. Rosemi privated the post and pretended that nothing happened; meanwhile Pomu apologized, left the post up and changed one of her public streams into an extra members-only stream.

>> No.25353390

>>25353315
ah ok gotcha.

>> No.25353491

>>25353315
Rosemi literally apologized in a members post and gave us really cute bonus drawings as well for it.

>> No.25353524

>>25353491
Post screenshot proof.

>> No.25353562

>>25353524
Thats membuds only content you buta.

>> No.25353583

>>25353524
You're lack of faith means you are undeserving of membud leaks

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>>25353491
nta but that was AFTER she most likely egosa /vt/ and saw that everyone was pissed. yeah call me a schizo or whatever but it's no secret that nijien lurks here. the timing was just too perfect for it to be a coincidence.
>>25353524
also here you go, maybe you'll get some pleasure from it, cause I don't.

>> No.25353650

>>25353609
You say that as if realizing you get a bunch of comments from grays isn't an obvious give away she fucked up too.

>> No.25354426

>>25349149
At this point I think that's inevitable.

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>>25353491
So? Leave the fucking letter up, endear the non paying greys and treat your members.
>>25353562
>>25353583
You fucking idiots have it all wrong. Who gives a fuck about who watches the content. You member because you like what the person does so much you're willing to go the extra mile for them.
Here's the fucking May letter, the schizo saved my post to go on his rant.

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>>25331816
Pomu made 3/4th of that from a premiere (not a stream) of a 6 minutes long fake ASMR. Fake because Pomu doesn't have a binaural or 3dio mic.

>> No.25355013

i wonder how pomu would feel if she knew so many of her fans were using her to shit on her coworker

>> No.25355032

You all do know that the longer this keeps up the likelyhood of her graduating and moving to a different corpo or going indie increases right?
I know most of you are not antis, just rosebuds who are dissatisfied with how wosemi is performing lately, I think all you guys deep down do care about her, I do, I wish there was a better way to let her know my feelings.

>> No.25355107

>>25355013
Same can be asked abour rosemi considering how rosecucks were shitting on every other girl at every single opportunity they got.

>> No.25355155

>>25355107
I only ever shat on nina, that whore should have never joined nijien.

>> No.25355296

>>25355107
>other girl
the rosebuds here shit on the males (who she is better friends with) way more than any of the girls

>> No.25355315

>>25355032
>implying we don't want her to get transferred into HoloEN3
The pressure of being an idol and an environment with all-female coworkers will foster her creativity again.

>> No.25355338

>>25331816
Collab with males, you get what you deserve. Why would anyone want this anymore given what has already happened.

>> No.25355350

>>25355296
No they don't. In fact rosecucks are the only audience to use unicorn unironically when shitting on fanbases of other girls.

>> No.25355356

>>25355032
Didn't listen to playlist anon who supa'd and asked nicely. If she won't acknowledge that she deserves the blunt truth.

>> No.25355423

>>25355356
got a timestamp? what stream was that?

>> No.25355424

>>25355350
You should have seen /rose/ before it disbanded any time they were reminded of Luca's existence

>> No.25355442

>>25355315
Do you even fucking watch HoloEN? Do you see how lazy everyone not named Kiara/Bae are?

>> No.25355491

>>25355424
Because those were old rosebuds, not the nu-rosecucks. Rosemi's fanbase on /vt/ for the past month or 2 is full of /soc/-posting faggot whiteknights.

>> No.25355530

>>25355442
That's their fault for being lazy. She can hit it off well with Kiara, who can encourage her to do more singing reps and covers.

>> No.25355581

>>25355338
why the fuck would you expect a niji to not collab with males? how retarded can you even get?

>> No.25355586

>>25346373
honestly, no collabs with the guys for 6 months and she can be redeemed

>> No.25355605

Maybe she's got something cooking for the Obsydia anniversary bros.

>> No.25355654

>>25355605
god i hope so... i can't bear to see her be this mediocre desu...

>> No.25355675

>>25355605
Whatever it is it's gonna be garbage anyway, and this is without taking into account that she simply can't rival Pomu's Virtual to Live project.

>> No.25355691

>>25355586
why do you even watch nijis?

>> No.25355701

>>25355315
If she ends up in holoEN she is going to stream like once a week, while constantly resenting that she can't collab with males anymore.

>> No.25355765

>>25355701
there's no rule in hololive that they can't collab with males. if she really wanted to she still could, but it would probaby affect her numbers more than as a niji.

>> No.25355810

>>25355701
>cant collab with males anymore
she can, fubuki and matsuri does it just fine. she just has to foster that community to do it

>> No.25355929

>>25355107
I can confirmed this is actually true; I've seen this too many times in the past. Rosekeks really were like that.

>> No.25356026

What if she's just tired of playing Rosemi the character? Granted I have no idea what she was like as Miki, I only watched the graduation stream.

>> No.25356034

>>25355107
I can also confirm this. They even shat up the main thread about how shitty the other girls were.

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>>25355315
>we
Kill yourself, holobegger

>> No.25356197

>>25337350
The problem is that the identity she wanted is what Petra is today. Penguin beat her to the punch.

>> No.25356329

>>25356094
For real though what future does she really have left in niji?

>> No.25356355

>>25356329
Being an accessory to the males.

>> No.25356939

>>25356026
She doesn't have a "character." Also, this >>25356197

>>25355530
Because that's worked so well for Ame, Ina, Mori and even Gura, who has the best voice in EN.
>>25355605
I'm not even trying to be mean or provocative when I say this, but I'd be surprised if it isn't either her announcing she's graduating or just nothing at well past a half-assed stream where she maybe goes at 6 hours.
To touch back on what the other anon said, Obsydia is the wave with the least unity in EN, and all her on-stream interactions with Petra have lead me to believe she doesn't like her. Rosemi really is a pick me girl, she basically copies the personality of whoever is the most popular in the EN circle; before the boys it was Selen, now it's arguably Luca (again popular IN/BETWEEN the Livers themselves, not subs - she barely acknowledges Mr. Coom beyond muh bite of '87).

Also lmao that rosecucks are using this thread because Obsydia general is basically a vegetable and the machine that sustains its life are the image posts.
Welcome, cucks.

>> No.25357099

>>25356939
call me a rosecuck all you want but it doesnt hurt me bro, i dont even consider myself a rosebud, at least not what rosebuds are today.

>> No.25357492

I wonder why /haha/ never got attacked as hard as /rose/.

>> No.25357593

>>25357492
the reason is there was some truth to some of the criticism, but unfortunately some people just started shitposting and it got combined into a shit sandwich of actual criticism super imposed with shitposting
people tried to stay reasonable with the reasons why Rosemi forgot the members letter etc but then shitposters just exaggerated.
Ignore the majority of this thread, its just a schizo-fest at this point

>> No.25357639

>>25357492
>attacked
because there is some truth behind the antis arguments. Selen has been mostly drama free and dragoons know how to hold down their general. By contrast, ever since luxiem/noctyx debuted, rosebuds turned weak and became bitches, god I hate new rosebuds as much as rosemi's current performance

>> No.25357657

>>25357492
/rose/ didn't get attacked. It ate itself up.

>> No.25357841

>>25357593
>it's just a schizo-fest at this point
Yeah rosecuck, those numbers of Rosemi's SC's performance are just the voices in people's heads lmao. I don't know why you faggots even try to pretend like you "understand the criticism" when you clearly don't. Or maybe you're just that bad at distinguishing what's a shitpost and what isn't. That's one the reasons /rose/ died, because faggots just HAD to own those crazy schizos and kept on feeding and feeding them.

>> No.25358039

>>25357841
>i'm not a schizo!
>just look at these numbers
go back to your containment thread

>> No.25358135

>>25358039
>back to your containment thread
Took the words right out of my mouth. Don't you have to bump your dying failure of a general from page 10 by now?

>> No.25358273

>>25344063
To me Rosemi always seemed like an ironic ojou-sama. Paper tiger and all that.

>> No.25358330

>>25331206
>Rosemi never did
Kirt?

>> No.25358451

>>25358330
KIRihime
Tsunderia
or some name her brother thought up because he used to use her switch.
But sure, she got some shitposters from that. Wouldn't really consider that hate. Hate is more...the schizos mad at her that she likes MtG more than YGO, or the guy that thinks she's getting fucked for going to a DND campaign at night.

>> No.25358573

>>25358451
>KIRihime
>Tsunderia
this is such a cope, come the hell on man
the brother thing is mor elikely

>> No.25358606

>>25358135
>muh ebin /obsy/
is that your reponse to literally everything? you act like a general being slow is a silver bullet that makes it impossible to defend rosemi, or even just not hate her, without being a hypocrite. and honestly, i don't get it. i mean, what's more pathetic? bumping your oshi's general when there isn't much discussion? or making threads shitting on the same chuuba literally every day?

>> No.25358919

>>25358135
Selen fans always had /haha/ but some do give a pity bump
Petra fans got tired of having to deal with Rosemis schizophrenic antis and went back to their duet thread with Anya
most Rosemi fans cant banter and sulked back to NijiEN

>> No.25359111

>>25358451
>KIRihime
>Tsunderia
She didn't use that account when playing Switch games as the rat

>> No.25359195

>>25358606
I don't make Rosemi threads everday, so yeah, autistically bumping a thread where no one says anything is far more pathetic.
>>25358919
I feel bad Pentomos had to be exposed to that shit.

>> No.25359411

Dipping below Reimu at any point should always be seen as a time to kick your own ass back into gear.

>> No.25360265

>>25359411
Current rrat is that graduation is just around the corner and she truly doesn't give a fuck anymore. Which I mean, I guess I can respect that, just do what you want to until you fuck off.

>> No.25361166

>>25356026
Holofag here. I only started watching Rosem in the past month or so. I recognize that Rosemi plays dumb about some things to a certain extent for humor. However, I have a bit of a hard time imagining that she is holding back her personality onstream THAT much compared to her behavior with IRL friends. This is because I have watched a company full of people that constantly hold back. But in most instances the end result it the same, the initial extra-reserved persona wears off. It has been welcomed in most instances so I wonder if anyone beside Rosemi herself is actually worried about it.

Swearing: First of all, this shouldn't be an issue in the first place but whatever. I'm familiar with the comedic self-censoring routine. However, those who self-censor usually falter when they are genuinely shocked or frustrated. Rosemi either has a will of iron or is programmed not to swear at all. The moments when she parrots something her collab partners don't count. I don't know if she ever stated her channel is supposed to be family-friendly.

Vulgar or sexual humor: Outside of collabs, Rosemi's humor is light and mostly clean. As pointed out in this thread, there have been some moments of innuendo but it was nothing serious or explicit. Deez nuts and sugma don't count, they are mainstream memes. I might be wrong about this, but it seems to me that she doesn't pick up and read her chat's crude humor too often, either. I think it's just not her thing.

>> No.25361292

>>25331079
>golf vshojo collab
That's when I first noticed Rosemi. Bow I watch her fairly regularly.

>> No.25361308

>>25361166
She doesn't swear because she only does that in front of her close friends.
So with friends and in private I'm sure she swears.
also
>holofag
>have only watched her for a month
fuck off lmao

>> No.25361920

>>25361308
My point was that it's more obvious when people are acting unnaturally or holding back. So I welcome any evidence that supports the idea. It's almost been a year, what's she waiting for? In her recent SA2 stream she pointed out how Tails sounded like he said a "bad word" and censored the GTA "aww shit, here we go again" quote. Not that I care, I think it's funny.

>> No.25362034

>>25361920
https://youtu.be/10qibkrCUho?t=8070

>> No.25362231

>>25360265
>more than one million monthly views
>1-2k live viewers
Yeah it totally makes sense to quit

>> No.25362309

>>25361308
>she only does that in front of her close friends.
Are you a close friend of Rosemi?

>> No.25362503

>>25362231 yep, it sure does >>25332927 >>25331816

>> No.25362573

>>25362503
The first graph there is badly labeled it's imposible to read. Number harder.

>> No.25362653

>>25362573
It's rare when an anon so brazenly displays his ignorance. You need to take a course on elementary statistics you analphabet.

>> No.25362671

>>25362034
Yep, I've seen that one before. I found it interesting that she admitted to not swearing around the other Nijis in private either. Personally, I find how reserved she is very endearing. But if she- let's say, loses all her items in Minecraft or something, an "oh shit" is understandable and normal.

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>>25362653
The first thing you learn in statistics is that graphs are worthless if they aren't labeled correctly.

>> No.25362814

>>25362671
Yeah, no shit a newfag that's barely been watching her for a month would like her persona, even when it now includes parroting twitch speak and the other bullshit habits others in EN have picked up.
And read the thread, faggot. Petra basically adopted the persona Rosemi wishes she could have.

>> No.25363072

>>25361166
Best not to stick around in these threads holofriend. They're full of people who got burned by trying to watch NijiEN like idols, but got mad when the boys appeared. These kinds of people show up from time to time in the Lazulight general too but the meidos actually clean them up there.

>> No.25363103

>>25363072
>muh males
Few are the people that complain about males for being males. The OP didn't. Fucking idiot.

>> No.25363259

>>25362787
Right, and so I'm sorry to tell you you're a fucking retard that didn't pay attention if you believe this.

>> No.25363506

>>25363072
Dunno, Rosemi is the only Niji I watch. All I can say is that the atmosphere in her solo streams can be very different from her collabs within Nijisanji.

>> No.25363882

>>25363259
I am sorry that you dropped from High School?

>> No.25363908

Daily reminder that Roseanti is actually butthurt lucub who mad Rosemi get close to her precious Zoomzoomboy and tried to gaslight Rosebuta to hate Rosemi. You can tell the post here and previous Roseantis thread reek estrogen and femoid rambling.

>> No.25363938

>>25363908
meds

>> No.25364128

>>25363908
Why waste energy getting mad about Rosemi when Mizuchi still streams and still talks about him all the time?

>> No.25364183

>>25363908
Rosecuck deflection gets funnier by the hour.

>> No.25364324

>>25330046
I thought rrats here, but its another # thread...

>> No.25364988

>>25330616
I love Rose threads man, I read all of them, and I haven't even consumed a single bit of content from Rosemi.

>> No.25366545

Damn you retards really need to revaluate your lives if every day you make another Rose hate thread

>> No.25366942

>>25346373
it'll never be enough. they don't want anything, these threads are just a metagame. there are far worse targets just in NijiEN alone. if anyone else had rosemi's level of scuff, they'd just be ignored as a mediocre-quality streamer and their fans left to their own niche devices, but as long as this wave is going on, they won't be happy unless they're constantly and mercilessly humiliating "rosecucks" for their "shit taste" and "cope".

i don't want to argue with you people anymore. you win, she sucks, whatever. i just want you to leave me in peace

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>>25349149

When you make less money per day as a fulltime streamer than Daksydephil its rope time.

>> No.25368153

Lets be real here. Rosemi isn't even interesting enough to have threads about.

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