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25277577 No.25277577 [Reply] [Original]

People are starting to realize in real time how unhealthy and harmful parasocial relationships are to Streamers.

We're already seeing numbers dropping on a lot of Hololive channels, cases of harassment letting to graduation or long breaks.

I think it's just matter of months before we see Hololive collapsing before our eyes since they relied and invested everything on parasocial relationships to make money.

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>> No.25277642

Meds.

>> No.25277669

Based and true.

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>> No.25277728

>>25277577
>months
more like weeks, hololive will dissolve soon and it's time for us nijichads to rule /vt/

>> No.25277810

>>25277577
No, dipshit. Hololive and vtubing in general is hitting a plateau. The market is starting to saturate.

>> No.25277815

The only thing falling apart real time is /vt/.
Full of numberrot
Full of tribalfags
Full of tourists
Full of drama
Full of bait
There's nothing of value here. Never was. Aside from the rrats and the doxxes that were mildly interesting

>> No.25277844

>>25277577
Nope. Stop posting shit, chink.

>> No.25277862

>>25277815
for some reason my brain read this post like an Elden Ring NPC

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based and truthpilled, even taiwanfags know what's up

>> No.25277903

based, they saw it coming. parasocial relationships are no joke, you have to set boundaries

>> No.25277907

>>25277577
If this ends up in /vt/ ceasing to exist, then by all means.

And I hope Anykara takes away NijiEN and move Enna, Selen, Petra and Luxiem to NijiCN or whatever they call their agency in there.

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>>25277577

>> No.25277968

GFE and Idolshit are the reasom vtubing is so shit right now, and Hololive is the only company pushing this shit

>> No.25278046

>>25277577
checked.
how is this a hololive problem though? doesn't that apply to every streamer, including non-vtubers?
I mean, the hololive community in particular has always been outspoken against twitch thots. do you think that the normies have changed hololive culture too much?

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>>25277815

>> No.25278111

>>25277577
>We're already seeing numbers dropping on a lot of Hololive channels
They're not. Miko is reaching an all time high and my oshi has an extra 1k viewers than usual.

>> No.25278145

>>25277815
based and true

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>>25277577
he says this as finana and vox are abandoning those people all for a mess up

what even do you mean by "collapse" anon

>> No.25278412

>>25277577
Kson's about to ACTIVATE IT.

>> No.25278538

>>25277577
go send death threats to your livers more nijinigger scum

>> No.25278578

>>25277968
kys. vtubing would not exist in the english market without hololive, period. there is no discussion to be had abou this. it's so fucking infuriating to see people jumping on the bandwagon after they saw hololive numbers, and now they are saying hololive is ruining it. I don't care how popular 2434 was in japan. as far as the west is concerned, there was Kizuna Ai, then there was Hololive, then everyone else. Hololive made everyone seethe because of their profits and people tried to get in on that. To now claim that hololive is the one ruining the market is beyond delusional.

>> No.25278794

>>25278578
very true if you ignore pikamee and hana macchia being the original EOP bait

>> No.25278799

>>25277869
>ぺこみこ pinch my heart
pekomikofags always being annoying little fags again i see

>> No.25278834

>>25277968
It’s the opposite, fag

>> No.25278915

>>25277577
ogey

>> No.25278980

>>25277577
Are paradoxical relationships actually so harmful?

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Not gonna lie, former holo watcher here. This is fucking hilarious watching Yagoo crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let those whores get my money for meds.

>> No.25279039

>>25277810
> Miko 80-100k streams
>Dezuwa 100k streams
>14 vtubers had 20k+ CCV in May
Oh no vtubing is dying… anyways

>> No.25279091

Dont worry anons. Once monkeypox becames the new corona vtubing will raise once again

>> No.25279131

>>25278092
This made my entire week.

>> No.25279134

>>25279039
>using an exception for the standard
Idiot

>> No.25279149

>>25277577
I really dont like how people worship Yahoo and do le reddit meme of "b-best girl hehe...!" so if his rigid Asian businessman company crumbles I'm all for it if only cause of how annoying people who talk about him are

>> No.25279317

>>25279149
Fucking typo I'll take it though since Yahoo sounds nice

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>>25279149
that shit pretty much died with the reddit dragon.

what bothered me isn't the "best girl xDD" weirdo shit but the "BASED GIGACHAD CEO" muscle yagoo crap. when actually seeing him on video he's the most meek, lowly beta like your typical nip salaryman, but that combined with his huge corporate exec status makes him about as trustworthy as some creepy fuck like Zucc

>> No.25279527

>>25278092
Holy based

>> No.25279581

>>25277815
Based

>> No.25279582

>>25278092
checked, Holoturds ruined this board, it's a mess now

>> No.25279589

>>25278092
>wojaks

>> No.25279627

>>25278794
>pikamee
>macchia
>in 2019
fucking kys
Macchia exploded because she was the first to play Doom Eternal. Pikamee debuted in 2020 and was a literal who until she started pandering on twitch in 2021.

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>>25278834

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>>25277577

>> No.25279774

>>25279634
Yes

>> No.25279811

>Hololive is over!
he says one day after finana got double teamed by club-bros.

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>idol vtubers bad, they are dying out
And yet Vwhorejo is getting mogged on twitch by Korean idol vtuber agency. This Korean idol company mogged everyone else 21 times in may on twitch.

>> No.25279924

>>25279872
wasnt this one of the worst months for vshojo? like very few streams in may?

>> No.25279987

>>25277577
>nippleniggers have isolated fuckup #10,646
>this is the end of hololive!

>> No.25279988

>>25279924
The Korean agency won last month too. some of them were getting 30k viewers with buff games this month.

>> No.25280118

>>25279872
>calling anyone else whores while posting about Korean idols

>> No.25280120

>>25279988
20k*
Anyways 2 of their talents are starting to average over 12k on normal streams, that doesn’t get passed by vshojo unless it’s a buff stream by them.

>> No.25280164

>>25279924
Veibae and Nyanners can beat those numbers easily.

>> No.25280166

>>25279149
there's a happy medium between worshipping corpo man and outright disdain for big corpo but most people in the community aren't capable of nuance or critical thinking, so this post you're reading is either written by a chink or by reddit. can't be anything else.

>> No.25280182

>>25279039
New subscriber rates is flattening out dipshit.

>> No.25280222

>>25279872
you know 3 of them are former "massage parlor" workers right?

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Don't care, Mori is my oshi and NijiEN failed

>> No.25280286

>>25280182
Views are 10x times more important than subs

>> No.25280295

>>25279149
>i want 68 chuubas to become unemployed because some shizos on /vt/ are annoying
based shizo

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I’m enjoying vtubers as much as I did in 2019. Idk what you are on, OP, but there is nothing ‘collapsing’. The only difference from then is the abundance of options to choose from and the scale of concerts/gigs/festivals. Maybe you think it’s collapsing because of shitposting on this board has branched out, but that’s because deadbeat jannies keep handing out bannies for criticizing mori so retards started making bait threads about everything and anything. And twitter were always full of anti-jp trends, vtuber ideals included.

>> No.25280371

>>25280222
One in three Korean girls do prostitution please understand.

>> No.25280392

>>25277815
BASED

>> No.25280403

>>25280295
They could just let them keep the characters tho.

>> No.25280472

>>25277577
>People are starting to realize in real time
Is this the new "Sources say"?

>> No.25280532

>>25280371
i know they did it during college. i heard that a lot of them do that, but is it really one in three? that seems like a lot.

>> No.25280558

>>25280182
Yeah because Susan is purging as they are gaining subs, multiple chuubas have said so at this point. Also add all the culling Susan does on new gens. Your Just retarded and uninformed.

>> No.25280585

>Hololive implodes
>*Sammy comes back with a good model
>Sachi and Sen go back home to VShojo
>Demon comes back to the USA and is happy
>Nagu keeps being great artist
>Princess of Kek commits sudoku
Good endings all around.

>> No.25280650

>>25280532
There is a reason it's called Worst Korea.

>> No.25280689

>>25278092
>implying /meat/ isn't more relevant to the topic of this board than 99% of the rest of the posts.
Whether you like them or not they're not just a fetish general like the rest

>> No.25280713

is this post some sort of cope because vox and reimu pissed off the she-chinks, finana got outed as a gangbang whore fucking strangers and antagonized her few remaining parasocial paypigs on twitter and nijiEN is now in damage control while nijiJP is thriving?

>> No.25280714

>>25277577
Touch grass

>> No.25280720

what? but if you see that they have more viewers than before xd for example kronii before had 1 to 3 but yesterday was almost 5k viewers, what hololive has is that it is already well established they no longer need to grow more

>> No.25280736

>show proof idols are thriving even on Twitch and are new vtuber queens on there.
>whore whores whores
So no counter argument huh, even if they were whores before they are idols now and that’s where their incline began.

>> No.25280783

>>25280713
>outed as a gangbang whore
This is not news tho.

>> No.25280820

>>25280736
well they incline as parasocial whores, but they decline as physical whores, so it balances out.

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>>25280650

>> No.25280867

>>25280736
You are the one that started calling other chuubas whores without having critical info on S*uth Korea.

>> No.25280869

>>25280783
but one of her "friends" had pictures of the two studs she took home on social media by accident.

>> No.25280948

>>25280869
I don't watch her but I once saw a clip of her saying that she likes being DP'd.

>> No.25280953

>>25278980
I mean parasocial. Are parasocial relationships actually so harmful?

>> No.25280963

>>25277577
>>25280558
But as OP noted, Hololive is "collapsing". A collapse implies that people are leaving en masse. So QED fuck you.

>> No.25280996

>>25280953
No. This entire meltdown on /vt/ today is simply a woman acting and saying dumb shit. That's it.

>> No.25281013

>>25279039
>Plateuing equals dying
English reps now

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>>25280953
ask finana.

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>>25280953
it don't matter, none of this matters

>> No.25281081

>>25281023
she postet that also for the doxxfags being mad and suprised she likes sex like most young women.

>> No.25281090 [DELETED] 

>>25280953
They an be.

>> No.25281103

>>25281013
Math reps on top of that too

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>>25277577
Their mistake was breaking and not reinforcing keyfabe, not make hololive alternative an actual multimedia franchise and EN hiring nepotism.

>> No.25281137

>>25280736
idol is just for marketing purposes, nobody like idolshit or GFE anymore

>> No.25281143

>>25277968
And what's the alternative, Twitch e-whoring and spergery? I'll take idol shit ovet that any day

>> No.25281203

>>25280953
>Are parasocial relationships actually so harmful?
They can be.

>> No.25281231

>>25280558
my rrat is that vutber companies use bots to boost their new channels in the begining, and after the channels have attracted enough real people, youtube purges the bots because they are no longer necessary.
if this wasn't the case, then viewers would complain about loosing their subscriptions, which isn't the case. I can speak for myself when I say that youtube has never removed my subscriptions.
One thing that I will say, however, is that whenever a new generation is announced, I subscribe to all the members in order to check them out later, and if they don't interest me, I remove the subscription. that's how you end up with channels that have over 100k subs before debut.

but it's definetly possible that Susan is keeping a cap on the ceiling to keep the bubble away from the normies.

>> No.25281294

>>25281143
The best content from Gura and Mori is songs, covers, and music videos. It doesn't need any of the idol shit.

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END IDOL CULTURE
END IDOL CULTURE
END IDOL CULTURE
END IDOL CULTURE
END IDOL CULTURE
END IDOL CULTURE

>> No.25281411

>>25281354
What does that have to do with idol culture? Anyway here's your (you)

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>>25277577
it's true, indies are also aware

>> No.25281460

>>25281354

Do korea stream viewers offer lessons on trolling

>> No.25281472

jp vtubers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> western trash vtubers

thats it. idk bout indos but seems they are still better than western shitters.

>> No.25281498

>>25277577
I think JP branch will be just fine but EN? Unless EN3 or homostars saves it I just don't see how they'll get out of this slump. Many of them are lazy bitches and those that are not lazy often choose some sort of shit games to play. Not a single good/dedicated FPS player, barely anyone plays MC and even when they do half of the time it's just running back and forth without building anything. When JP branch were getting huge numbers boost from Ark what did EN do? Few of them played it once or twice and that's all. On the other hand, we have Luxiem who had similar circumstantial debut luck as Myth. Mr. Coom is grinding pretty much every single day and his whole gen is trying to carry their own weight as well. All of his work is reflected in SCs when his daily earnings alone are often comparable to whole of Myth. Many (western) women are just entitled lazy bitches who can't appreciate the opportunity they've been given and this is why HoloEN is failing hard in terms of numbers and/or growth.
I've been watching Hololive for ~2.5 years but lately I only watch the JP branch because EN became too stale, boring and clearly most of them don't give a shit anymore

>> No.25281516

>>25279872
>>>25281411
>>25281354
idol culture hates feminism

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the fact that these people are selectivly ignoring comments that they can't argue against proves that hololive is living rent free, as usual.

>> No.25281586

>>25277577
>Nijisanji member fucks up
>HOLOLIVE IS COLLAPSING
Everytime....

>> No.25281602

>>25281541
what comment? "hur dur idols good western whores"

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>>25281516
If the girls wanna be idols then that's up to them. If they don't wanna be idols that's also up to them.
If you are an idol, ie. hololive, then you have certain standards to adhere to.
If you are not an idol, i.e Rene from 774 who talks about her hemorrhoids and uploads audio of her intestines moving gas, then you have other standards.
This isn't on the audience. This is on the streamer and who they pander to.

>> No.25281654

>>25281203
How can I identify when I have a problem?

>> No.25281677

>>25280713
Either cope or deflection basically

>> No.25281728

>>25281602
Theirs comments literally pointing out nothing happened in Hololive and Nijisanji is the one who had a recent yab.

>> No.25281740

>>25281231
i lost subscriptions to some from council and Ina.

>> No.25281776

Discord tranny coordinated false flagging thread.

>> No.25281797

>>25281231
I have the same way of thinking but I have been unsubbed to channels before. I think these bot things is recent tho, streams used to max at 80-90k but now things are going past 100k pretty easily. Declining it is not, flattening?, well if we ignore all the chuubas inclining then maybe.

>> No.25281839

>>25281728
the point is how harmful parasocial relationships are, and how Hololive is alienating people

>> No.25281853

>>25280585
>Sachi and sen joining the whore squad
Demon is the only one interested in them, bait or not.

>> No.25281863

>>25281436
its one thing if its dating like pink-cat or mumei is doing, but another to fuck 2 strangers from a club, get caught, scream about parasocial relationships on twitter and then do a "return stream" as if nothing happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wNGOrgHuDo

>> No.25281936

>>25281853
Sachi was close friends with Silver. She would have been a founding member or a + if she didn't got hired.

>> No.25281983

>>25281839
Yeah but Hololive literally did nothing recently and the recent alienation is all on Vox though due to his own BFE content.

>> No.25282027

>>25281354
Just turn the screen off, retard.

>> No.25282038

>>25281654
That's a question you ask yourself. Do you have too much dependency? Is it affecting your personal life? Are you skipping more productive activities?

>> No.25282079

>>25281983
hololive actually had a big yab, my oshi didn't fuck the indo-princess during their vacation and i don't know how to cope.

>> No.25282093

>>25281983
>they shit on Hololive for not streaming
>shit on then again for GFE when they don’t even stream to do it
It’s just a smear campaign, NijiEn being the top dog benifits other streamers as it’s more possible to leech off them.

>> No.25282106

>>25281498
I think many are just bored or depressed.

>> No.25282126

>>25282079
That's not a yab that's an average Hololive off Collab event.

>> No.25282134

>>25282079
Neck yourself, problem solved

>> No.25282162

>>25281863
Pink Cat going out with Lord Chadethelsan is worse tho.

>> No.25282167

>>25281983
> recently
you mean the rushia yab, also aloe's case is still relevant, recent or not

>> No.25282182

>>25281839
parasocial relationships have existed long before hololive and are not exclusive to that company.
hololive has an anti e-thot and anti-china culture which perhaps could be an indication that the comunity is much more self aware about certain problems with our society. if cover begins to pander to a mainstream audience now, they are essencially shooting themselves in the foot.

>> No.25282187

>>25282106
Half of them have been moving around recently to new homes and trying to get offices setup for the future.

>> No.25282246

>>25282167
Anon both of those haven't been relevant for the past several weeks. The recent yab that had people uppity was Vox addressing his yumejos just yesterday.

>> No.25282257

>>25277577
I think EN will crumble especially since the pandemic is over but JP will be fine. The NEET phenomenon is so ingrained into Japanese society that they will always have lonely losers to leech money off of.

>> No.25282269

>>25282182
Cover is pushing their talent to do GFE shit while pretending to be idols. Its the most predatory form of parasocial content that preys on alienated men to turn them into whales.

>> No.25282272

>>25282182
> anti e-thot
> marine's cum sex penis blowjob cum penis jokes
kek

>> No.25282339

>>25282269
>Pushing them to do GFE
Give me a percentage of how many Holos do genuine GFE anon.

>> No.25282356

>>25281516
Honestly I don’t think idol culture has anything to do with anti-feminism. Especially because tons of feminists love idols for some reason, have you seen the kpop fans?

>> No.25282371

>>25282339
Everyone does overtly parasocial member-only streams where they get more intimate with their paypigs.

>> No.25282423

>>25282371
>Members Streams
You gonna show me your proof than mother fucker.

>> No.25282446

>>25282134
first i will neck your mother. with my dick. im implying i will throatfuck your mother.

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>>25281863
>fuck 2 strangers from a club, get caught, scream about parasocial relationships on twitter and then do a "return stream" as if nothing happened.

>> No.25282491

>>25277815
Truth
Easily the worst board on the site, and keep in mind that /v/ and /pol/ exist.

>> No.25282575

>>25282339
Don't ask that. First you/we need a common definition of what GFE is, because that term is so loosely used now on this board that most of what's called GFE doesn't even resemble Rushias' style of content.
For example, most people (as I see on here anyway) say ASMR=GFE.
Which I disagree with. Patra's ASMR, for example, isn't intimate or anything like Mary's more GFE oriented ASMR. So calling all ASMR for GFE is being dishonest.
So desu these retarded baiting goobers are just throwing around words like gfe and parasocial without ever defining them just so they can stir up shit. And if they're not trolls then they're plain retards.

>> No.25282618

>>25281863
Where did the "fuck 2 strangers from a club" rrat come from?

>> No.25282644

Furthermore I think we should call it virtual geishas or e-geishas or whatever. Most of what's being called GFE isn't even close to being it.

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bro imagine destroying your company because you saw what happened to rushia lol

nijiEN sucks and they needed a male chinese fujobait streamer just to beat holoEN who doesn't even care for numbers

>> No.25282663

>>25282491
i would have agreed with you some time ago, but the russo-ukraine war made /pol/ into one of the top 3 worst boards in the history of chans

>> No.25282682

>>25282663
Hasn't /pol/ always been containment?

>> No.25282689

>>25282491
then why the fuck are you here BITCH, you act like you're here for serious discussion when you know you're just like the rest of us salivating at drama and bullshit

>> No.25282694

>>25282618
her "roommates" friends twitter.

>> No.25282698

Comments in this thread literally scream damage control and femoid horseshit in general. How new are you people that all of a sudden after Vox' fuck up, you think that hololive is dying because the idol culture is le bad?
Fucking twitter brigade came out in full force.

>> No.25282702

>Nijiniggers pander hard to parasocial.
>Suddenly create drama and turn on them.
>Blame their competitor Hololive and demand that they shut down.
They're such manipulative liars, it's pathetic.

>> No.25282712

>>25277815
/vt/ is hell but that's the rest of this site

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25282756

If Hololive falls, the entire vtuber industry will fall as well since Hololive is carrying the entire vtuber scene on its back

>> No.25282769

>>25280295
They could all die if it means one person would be mildly upset.

>> No.25282807

>>25282756
>hololive is the terraluna of chuubas
I can see it.

>> No.25282851

>>25282682
but it reached a totally new level, it was like a self aware containment board for rightoids, tankies and all that shit, but now they became infected with people that actually believe the shit they spew. i mean their goddamn repost-DISCORD became so bad it radicalized a guy to shoot up a supermarket. now tell me again how bad /vt/ is. the worst that can happen here is some guy becoming a hero because his oshi said he is disgusting.

>> No.25282856

>>25282702
nijiEN was building its own grave. vox already is playing dangerously with fire, and the next time he fucks up, i could expect him to go. an EN graduation of that size would be insane

>> No.25282873

>>25282663
The recent events completely destroyed most traditional narratives so now it's largely just shitposting.

>> No.25282885

>>25282756
Botan so beeg. I want to see her vs Sana.

>> No.25282909

This thread is so inorganic I can taste the silicon.

>> No.25282914

>>25282856
trying to profit from chinks is risky business, doubly so if its she-chinks.

>> No.25282918

All of this will be over by next tuesday if they just shut up btw no one actually cares

>> No.25282930

>>25281436
Damn, these bitches only think about themselves. She became a vtuber even though she hates vtuber fans, and now she's screaming that she still hates them even if they give her money.

>> No.25282944

>>25282698
I don't watch men, but I think idol culture is bad and it hampers growth.

>> No.25282947

>>25282914
i never cared for the nijiEN males but vox also talked shit about kuzuha in a weird way with APEX. you do not do that.

>> No.25282977

>>25282944
You'd simply be wrong.

>> No.25282985

>>25282944
Yeah Hololive is really hurting bad compared to based Vshojo amirite fellow Nyanners watcher?

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>>25282944
if thats the case suisei should've been retired by now

>> No.25283012

>>25282756
Only in Indonesia.

>> No.25283020

>>25281654
When you're feeling angry jealously over your oshi's lack of tweeting and streaming after a whole night of jerking off to her lewds.

>> No.25283057

>>25277577
BIG 草

>> No.25283081

>>25282371
Ask me how I know you've never tasted love and intimacy in your life, anon.

>> No.25283099

>>25282851
You mean the FBI's discord. Also, I can totally see some people from here pulling a Meg Turney.

>> No.25283109

>>25282694
I thought people who watched EN vtubers were into that anyway. Very progressive and all of that.

>> No.25283137

>>25282985
Pink Cat and Vei are still inclining despite the fact that they don't stream.

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>>25277577
>nijibronie deflection thread

>> No.25283171

>>25283007
I see Suisei as a normal anime singer. Not different from AmaLee.

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>>25279872
this is not a Vtuber

>> No.25283206

>>25283099
>the FBIs discord
see thats what i meant, in the past i would have said this is a /pol/ shitpost, but today there is a high chance this retard actually believes this shit.

>> No.25283260

>>25283206
I am probably the first person pushing that theory because there is literally no reason why /pol/ wasn't shut down day one. There are already cases of people arrested for posting in there.

>> No.25283271

>>25277577
Yes, my nijisister. We just have to endure two more weeks, and we win

>> No.25283547

>>25283171
The one whogot oneguy'd into a rant against parasocial?

>> No.25283652

>>25283547
Dunno I only watch her videos on YouTube. She got a chuuba model only recently.

>> No.25283668

>>25281023
Reminder that 1/3 people in the us contract an std every year, and around 1/4 people actually have one at any given time. I'm not sure if that number only includes sexually active people, but regardless picking up 2 Randos from a club is very risky without getting them tested first.
Tl;dr: this is your brain on syphilis.

>> No.25283693

>>25280585
>Sen go back home to VShojo
She'd sooner drink a gallon rubbing alcohol/everclear/absinthe cocktail before facing that possibility

>> No.25283738

>>25283668
i mean we only saw who she took home, we didn't see if she rawdogged them or used condoms.

>> No.25283741

>>25283668
Just get penicillin bro.

>> No.25283768

>>25281436
Gura's older sister had it worst, she basically inherited the worst possible fandom ever just because she ran the bad luck of being Gura-like

>> No.25283811

>>25281354
damn, she could have been happy raising my children

>> No.25283821

>>25277577
What the actual fuck are you on about?
Only thing you are right about is the numbers "dropping", which is what we call stagnating, and that is because the popularity boom of hololive -or vtubers in general- ended some time ago.

>> No.25283846

>>25277686
Holy fucking based

>> No.25283888

>>25283206
anon...

>> No.25283905

>>25278092
>wojaks in 2022
I didn't even read this post, go fuck yourself and go back

>> No.25283916
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>Vox from NijiEN, the BFE chink prince, had a yab involving his unicorns
>As always, normalfags blame this on parasocial relationships (they don't even know what it actually means)
>OP makes an anti-Hololive thread using normalfag talking points
Tribalism has always been nonsensical but this thread demonstrates it's also fabricated
Now, I want to say: if Vox was part of (the currently nonexistent) HolostarsEN, people would be blaming idol culture as well. Normalfags love using "incels" as their scapegoat instead of holding streamers accountable for their practices

>> No.25283931

>>25283693
To be fair she would rather do collabs with Belle.

>> No.25283940

>twitch
Guess i should have this filtered too

>> No.25283970

>>25281354
Holy based. Get fucked feminists.

>> No.25283975

>>25281354
Based Koreans

>> No.25284025

>>25282698
discord raid

>> No.25284029

>>25280166
I'm white and proud, don't try and frame me as a chink or indog to feel better

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>>25283821
>the popularity boom of hololive -or vtubers in general- ended some time ago.

>> No.25284078

>>25277815
this is why I come here thoguh? if it was all nice and on-topic it would be boring

>> No.25284079

>>25282182
>anti e-thot
anon...
>anti-china
anon...
you know they only got so big in the first place because of china and had the taiwan yabe not blown up theyd still be pandering to them.
they dont have anti-china culture, china has anti-hololive culture.

theyve never really pandered to the main stream even now, idols are niche, gfe is niche, vtubing is niche.
they pandered to a very niche group from the start but the job isnt sustainable for the performers in the long run and theyre deteriorating faster because of the idol niche always having a high burn out rate.
>>25283206
the fbi have been known to honeypot on this site so its not unhear of.
>>25283260
pol is the containment board for a reason and the fbi knows it, better to have those retards under a watchful eye then running around all over the place

>> No.25284082

>>25283738
Condoms don't stop everything.

>> No.25284099

>>25283206
even normies know something is wrong

>> No.25284109

>>25279500
This too, I've never seen someones cock get ridden as hard despite how incompetent the company has been in dealing with shit in the past, also that whole licensing debacle where tons of vods were getting shut down cause they couldnt be arsed to get permissions for the games for their chuuba employees, I just dont really get it, it's weird to me

>> No.25284140

>>25277815
the fact that faggots think even a mention of another chuuba or the want to collab with them is "leeching" still baffles me, this place is unironically full of retards

>> No.25284157

>>25284029
a white person wouldn't have to say "and proud" since its already implied by being white. this proves you are a chink.

>> No.25284176

>>25284068
>Let me show 2 exceptions to your argument
You sure got me, faggot.

>> No.25284181

>>25280295
Nah this isnt about vt people I never see them use those heckin epic memes, I'm talking about the reddit fags and the majority of people in comment sections on youtube for clips and what not, they all speak the same retarded way and it makes me want to grind my teeth with sandpaper, I blame Coco for this.

>> No.25284219

>>25277577
yeah. Success of desuwa girl shows that they lucked out with yt algorithm. Nothing more or less

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>>25284176
You mean two of the most iconic VTubers in their respective company? Yeah that doesn't count, because it doesn't, okay?

Also Suisei in Hololive shows nothing but constant growth, while Mori inclines whenever she releases new music.

>> No.25284254

>>25284176
>Desu-wa eludes him
Salome Pagi to you brother

>> No.25284260

>>25284157
>You aren't what you say you are because of a rule I just made up!
Understood, I guess I'm asian now, hee hee herro go away engrish onry person! Are you happy now?

>> No.25284285

>>25279872
kek and faggots think haachama of all people is leeching off of them by collabing with them, fucking IMAGINE

>> No.25284287

Oh boy any nijinigger deflection. What you're gonna tell me nexf? Vtubing is dead?

>> No.25284340

>>25277577
But enough about Nijisanji.

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>Fans manage to piss off every fanbase
>They manage to get exiled from many boards
>It's everyone else's fault
>eternal victims yet always the aggressors
>can't criticize them or you're called a zhang (nazi)
> Brainwashing and alienation throught the degenerate idol culture and parasocial relationships
> Destruction of the family. The CEO wants their fans to be obsessed with their idols and forget real relationships
> blatant nepotism
> blatant revisionism
> tribalism and elitism

>> No.25284397 [DELETED] 

>>25277844
>NOOOOO STOP POOOSTIIING AIIEIEIEI
The holobrony is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a simp, cuck, SEAnigger, shitposter; it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a holobrony and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

The time has come for your Holo-whores to pay the brutal retribution due the extreme severity of their crimes. GOD willing, /vt/ will mark the third board holobronies will be expelled from.

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>>25277577
Nijideflection thread

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Anyways, all hololive needs to prop itself back up is disband everyone but Gen 5 and Gamers

>> No.25284545

>>25284249
No shit, just because the boom is over doesn't mean every single Vtuber is going to drop in numbers, of course some of them are going to keep growing, the industry isn't dead. Are you telling me Vtubers are more popular than -let's say- a year ago? I think there was way more buzz around Vtubers than now. A lot of normies moved on. That's what I meant by popularity boom.

>> No.25284557

>>25284516
Gen 5, Gen 6, and Gamers*
Sorry forgot to add one in fuck augauba8ua8hba

>> No.25284573

>>25284354
Unironically why are holofans like this?

>> No.25284582

>>25284260
i knew it.

>> No.25284587

>>25284422
>Too ashamed to post FB_IMG Kobo over being mogged by Desu Wa
>Posts an even worse ID
At least post Moona or Reine if you're trying to hide you ID fanboyism

>> No.25284639

>>25284582
Aw man you got me! Sirry hororive fan hehe, i go back to izakaya with sexually harassing boss and go home to cube apartment now!

>> No.25284671

>>25277577
Is this the phancuck cope thread?

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>>25284545
The boom is only over for those who rely too much on GFE and idol shit.

>> No.25284757

>>25284639
(Hey guys its me, dont tell him im just playing along! I dont wanna hurt him)

>> No.25284765

>>25284671
>phancuck
another buzzword created by holoniggers

>> No.25284812

>>25282694
Name of friend's twitter

>> No.25284832

>>25281354
Holy mother of based

>> No.25284843

>>25284757
>selffagging
i bet the whole "conversation" was you shizoing out wasn't it.

>> No.25284865

>>25277815
You can't avoid human nature.
/vt/ is a mere byproduct of real life issues.
All the things you listed exist outside of /vt/. Everyone is thinking about it, they are just too afraid to be judged.
If it wasn't for /vt/ it would be somewhere or someone else.

>> No.25284911

>>25284843
If other boards werent gay and had thread id's then this wouldnt be an issue but no the first two back and forths were with someone else and then I just replied to me there

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>>25284743
>Nyanners
You need to check those stats again anon

>> No.25284935

>>25277577
holo en is just terrible to watch now because they all burned out and clearly dont give a shit, i believe its the elden ring effect

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>>25281354
KRONII....

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>>25284743

Mori got her peak at 20 million in March of THIS year. Meanwhile, Gura got her peak at debut with 19 million at debut in 2020. Gura's top videos also lag behind those of her roomate (same happens with Irys). Gura is declining precisely because she is in Hololive and has to self-censor and restrict her own creativity.

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AIEEEE HOLOBROS?!!! HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO US? IT'S PROBABLY 35-40% NOW!! FUCK FUCK FUCK

>> No.25284979

>>25284929
I cant imagine being a nyanners fan after live cucking + the virtue signaling she did years ago disowning people who made her famous

>> No.25285006

>>25277577
>how unhealthy and harmful parasocial relationships are to Streamers
Why would I give a shit if it's harmful to streamers?

>> No.25285015

>>25284979
Her discord yesmen convinced her they stuck around because of her, then she had the audacity of liking actual male dick

>> No.25285027

>>25277577
Bugman hands typed this

>> No.25285050

>>25284929
>one whole month
Worthless graph.

>> No.25285080

>>25284935
i mean i agree on most of them, but whether you like her or not, kiara is still going strong. actually she is probably going harder than ever, even if she doesn't incline.

>> No.25285103

The new buzzword will be "parasocial" used to shit on other vtuber fans despite white knights rushing to the defense of their vtubers because of their own parasocial relationship.

>> No.25285145

>>25285015
i mean she also lied about being lesbian and only liking 2d guys. i actually know 2 dykes that unsubbed because of that.

>> No.25285151

>>25280713
Finana was caught doing WHAT? Can you give me even a tiny hint of where to go for that info?

>> No.25285177

>>25284979
nothing wrong with using and manipulating pathetic losers to grow while you're at the bottom, then ditching them like the filthy trash they are after reaching the top. it happens since ancient times, we're just seeing another version and this won't change anytime soon

>> No.25285323

>>25285006
> why would i care if the person i like so much dies?
thanks for proving his point, idol fans see streamers like mere products and clowns, you're an insane cunt like all the other idol fans

>> No.25285448

>>25284963
Poor guys...

>> No.25285734

>>25285323
>words nobody said
Woah, you sure showed them, sister.

>> No.25285987 [DELETED] 

>>25285734
that's what the point of your post

>> No.25285994

>>25282682
>>25282851
"Containment" is a form of cope at this point. Since when has /mlp/ stopped pony shit from randomly cropping up elsewhere? Pokemon shit keeps showing up outside of /vp/. Hell every other board has complained about off-topic vtuber stuff when this board exists.

Containment has never fucking worked, Hiro is a dumbass for thinking it would help and moot only made /pol/ as a joke and /mlp/ because he was an ironic bronie; he wouldn't make boards just to contain anything.

>> No.25286229

>>25278092
>t.nijizhang
KYS

>> No.25286237

>>25281436
This is the same chuuba where you'd go into her stream and she'd be whispering stuff like "oooooo uwuuuu I wuv you wittle babies im your mommy kana ooooo"
How fucking delusional can women be?

>> No.25287057

>>25277577
what even is this "parrot social" meme you're spamming the board about. take your meds and breathe.

>> No.25287127

>>25286237
simply pure woman mentality. That mentality that makes them think they can cultivate a relationship with their audience in the exchange for money, not once putting a thought of what the consequences would be of such a job. But ayyyy as long as they get the cash donation, nobody, not I or anyone else who supports for dozens of days of the month matters. Accountability will be answered to on a later date. But nji and handful of En holo's got first spots in line.

>> No.25287355

>>25281354
jammi was a qt. She said my name like 50 times. We were basically married.

>> No.25287851

>>25282930
>now
Kana's gone, reduced to atoms

>> No.25288845

>>25278092
If it wasn't for Hololive, /vt/ wouldn't have needed to be created.

>> No.25290074

>>25277686
That's a lot of bibis you have there, Tower.

>> No.25290145

>>25284940
>has to self-censor and restrict her own creativity.
Sure thing, Her-fag. And Kson's content is so much more creative compared to when she was Coco, right?

>> No.25290219

Smells like niji deflection thread. So how did niji fuck up today?

>> No.25290873

>>25277815
true, however reading schizo posts is still funny

>> No.25291644

>>25278092
>seething so hard he doesn't have a retort and resort to replying to his own post
yes, cry more you unloved child

>> No.25292237

>>25277815
This

>> No.25292359

>>25282491
Meh, I would argue /lgbt/ is worse because its just Reddit/twitter in a 4 chan coat of paint.

>> No.25292390

>>25277577
>nijisanji collapsing before our eyes
>HEY YOU GUYS HOLOLIVE IS COLLAPSING
The projection is so brazen I'm honestly impressed

>> No.25292448

>>25282851
>goddamn repost-DISCORD became so bad it radicalized a guy to shoot up a supermarket.
You are an idiot if you actually belive that.

>> No.25292482

>>25290145
Coco was doing PewDiePie-style content to pump her view numbers.

>> No.25292613

>>25277577
who makes these posts
how did you find this website

>> No.25292616

>>25283206
You sound like a redditfag.
God you tourist niggers are annoying..

>> No.25292715

>>25277577
this is funny like Jimmy Dore saying the Ukrainians won't fight cause they "feel abandoned"

good propaganda, OP

>> No.25292854

>>25277577
You cannot talk shit about parasocial unless you supa'd 200+ usd to a whore chuuba and with a good reason to back it up. Have you? no, because your instinct of self preservation tells you that whores aren't worth your supas.

>> No.25292963

>>25292715
>she doesn't have the critical information

>> No.25293004

>>25277577

Hololive has nothing to do with your prince fucking up. Also, didn't he just tell you that he can wipe his own ass without help?

>> No.25293277

>>25284940
anon

>> No.25293347

Hololive is literally the only thing giving inspiration to vtubers and the only reason chuubas are complaining about clingy fans is becaise they want the fame of an idol without putting any effort into the idol personality, they ferl entitled to the fan's money just because they got a 2d anime avatar worth less than 100 bucks, they are sociopathic faolures who will never be real chuubas.

>> No.25293807

>>25279634
cringy shipper trash

>> No.25295111

>>25277577
I’m going to laugh when a niji beats all of holoJP to 2M

>> No.25299568

>>25277577
cap

>> No.25299624

>>25277577
>nijiENs go full retard
>somehow this means hololive is collapsing
uh
ogey

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mass nijien graduation when

>> No.25300403

does people actuallybelieve this kind of threads bullshit?
I don't know about EN since I don't watch them besides gura at times, but JP is inclining (minus matsuri or ayame, growth wise they are done for)

>> No.25300410

Everyone who posted in this thread, whether to agree or disagree with OP, should be killed

>> No.25301099

>>25277577
>numbers dropping
they have one of the best month, many members are inclining

>numbers dropping
that's NijiJP, old KING......

>cases of harassment letting to graduation
NijiKR......

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>>25277577
>Holo is collapsing
When ?
>You cant deny it faggot
That's your delusion schizoschama, they're still stream and provide the entertainment
>Cope Holobronies
Im not coping, im hyping for what kind of entertainment they're gonna provide next

>> No.25301569

>>25282694
>>25284812
Sounds like this is bullshit if they can't say who it was. nice bait bro

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>>25279634
fixed.
shipper fags are mentally ill as well.

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>> No.25306117

>>25279634
>>25305591
Never understood that image since I'm a holofag that's also subbed to a twitch whore.

>> No.25307471

>>25285151
Inside his head.

>> No.25307789

>>25306117
I like idols for being idols.
I like whores for being whores.

I'm a twitchfag who also subs to a few holo's so I can see where you're coming from.

>> No.25308025

>>25277577
Somehow this feels like
>Holo is collapising watch Ni-
NO.

>> No.25308405

>>25281654
Have you pissed away more than 10% of your yearly income on your oshi?
Does your oshi occupy your thoughts for most of the day?
Do you not know what to do when they aren't streaming and compulsively check their twitter for stream updates?
Do you come here to passive-aggressively post in threads about them or their (perceived) competition?
Then you too might have a problem.

t.hasaproblem

>> No.25308474

>>25277815
thread should have ended here

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>>25277577
There are other forms of parasocial relationships other than a romantic/sexual attraction. Sometimes you just genuinely want to see someone succeed.
I just want to see my boys happy. They have genuinely enriched my life by making it more fun and giving me things to look forward to. I don't mind dropping a few bucks here and there and I don't feel preyed on at all.
If they were to graduate, I'd be sad but I know I'd move on. I'd understand and hope they could find happiness away from the eyes of viewers.

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reminder to all the newfags that 4chan is not a place for collective consensus. if you can't think for yourself, it's better to you just leave.

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>>25277577
>Nijisanji fucks up for the 30th time this year
>"IS HOLOLIVE GOING TO DIE?"
nice thread op, you even got the Reddit spacing down for extra crunchy bait.

>> No.25309832

>>25284354
why nijisanji lives rent free in your head?

>> No.25309875

>niji deflection thread #24

>> No.25309889

>>25309375
>10/14 front page threads are SS about Vox's stream, Reimu's tweet, Finana's tweet, or Fujo's tweets
>Hololive global grinds to a halt
Yea i'm thinking hololive has/had nothing to talk about so this is what they wanted

>> No.25310039

>>25277815
>numberrot, tribalfags
As Vox said, it's all pretend. That's just roleplay
>tourists
Harmless, don't be a gatekeeping fag
>drama
The only interesting things that happen
>bait
Your fault if you fall for them

>> No.25310095

>>25282079
What are you talking about. Reine totally fucked Kiara

>> No.25310189

>>25310039
are you trying to say that people number/tribalfag ironically? is it just fun to fling shit in your spare time for no reason?

>> No.25310506
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25310506

>>25277815
>>25278092

This but unironically.
If you dont like it get back to leldit nijiniggers.
White Holopride worldwide.

>> No.25310576

>>25277728
>Nijifags rule the /vt/
Yeah, Thanks for a Dramashit and chinks...

>> No.25311561

>>25281839
almost all streamers establish parasocial relationships. it doesn't have to be "boyfriend/girlfriend", it can basically just be "friend", or "someone that talks to you".

>> No.25311607

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志

>> No.25311615

>>25277815
based

Tourism causes a displacement from autistic discussion of content and board culture to banter-based metathread bait fishing and tribalfagging. From introvert focus to extrovert focus.
Normalfags ruin everything.

>> No.25311879

>>25278092
So last time when u posted this u didnt get any yous so now u tried again and replied a bunch of times to yourself... thats so sad.

>> No.25311924

>>25277577
>nijisanji has drama
>chink starts deflecting with shitposts
Everytime

>> No.25312028

>>25282663
/k/ went to shit, too. i'm tired of vatniks and hohols debating every day. but at least it's not as bad as /pol/

>> No.25312094

>>25287127
You can know the consequences and dislike them, but it's still worth it for the money.

>> No.25312583

>>25311607
BASED

>> No.25313210

>>25285994
Containment worked for /mlp/, and that's because its the only actual containment board on this entire website and not a bunch of people wishing that things they don't like are banned

>> No.25315232
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25315232

>>25280359
Based Chris poster.

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