/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>25238692
They are probably going through a lot. Salome reclined by tens of thousands of viewers and Vox just crashed all of NijiEN into the sun killing the entire branch. Let them cope.

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY*
>36,055: Lui (Hololive)
>31,092: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>29,316: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>29,175: Miko (Hololive)
>25,585: Botan (Hololive)
>23,159: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>19,763: Polka (Hololive)
>19,724: Ui (Indie)
>17,789: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,626: Mio (Hololive)
>16,486: Beni (VSPO)
>15,709: Met (774 Inc.)
>12,634: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,540: Fubuki (Hololive)
>12,491: Vox (Nijisanji)
>12,165: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,201: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>11,094: Nene (Hololive)
>10,061: Hal (Neo Porte)
>10,050: Moona (Hololive)
>10,024: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)

>>25238859
>Vox just crashed all of NijiEN into the sun killing the entire branch.
do bronies really?

So how do you think Hololive being back as the underdog will help them?

>>25238923
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 46,089 - Valkyrie Connect shilling w/Laplus
18) Chloe (Hololive) - 58,142 - Birthday totsumachi
19) Toya (Nijisanji) - 36,605 - Kenmochi Toya
20) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 49,561 - Unarchived karaoke w/ Luca & Vox
21) Mysta (Nijisanji) - 40,534 - Cooking stream w/Vox
22) Miko (Hololive) - 51,105 - Return stream + announcement
23) Miko (Hololive) - 87,507 - WWE 2K22
24) Salome (Nijisanji) - 91,135 - Debut stream
25) Salome (Nijisanji) - 84,338 - Resident Evil 7
26) Axia (Nijisanji) - 31,685 - New outfit reveal
27) Miko (Hololive) - 110,076 - WWE 2K22 collab
28) Salome (Nijisanji) - 113,034 - Resident Evil 7
29) Salome (Nijisanji) - 127,576 - Resident Evil 7
30) Lui (Hololive) - 36,055 - Lying acting battle collab

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
12x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Miko
4x: Salome
2x: Kanata, Mio, Mysta, Pekora
1x: Aqua, Axia, Chloe, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Lui, Marine, Nijisanji, Sora, Toya

>>25238998
Hololive still rapes Niji ten ways to Sunday.

>>25238923
Huh? What happen to salmon, been out of the loop.

>>25239003
2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
103x: Hololive
38x: Nijisanji
6x: Neo Porte
2x: Indie
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
17x: Pekora
16x: Aqua
12x: Miko
10x: Kuzuha
7x: Subaru, Hal
5x: Kanata, Marine
4x: Salome, Suisei, Toya
3x: Choco, Gura, Hololive, Mio, Okayu
2x: Ange, Chloe, Flare, Fuwa, Korone, Mysta, Nijisanji, Polka, Towa
1x: AI, Aki, Axia, Ayame, Botan, Calli, Chronoir, Hayase, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Koyori, Lui, Mel, Mikeneko, Mito, Nagao, Nene, Roboco, Rushia, Sora, Sukoya, Ui, Vox, Yashiro, Yorumi, Zeta

>>25239137
she streamed after the cut, she'll be counted tomorrow

>>25239137
she's gold for today since she streamed at midnight

>>25239137
Lost tens of thousands of viewers. It's over.

>>25238798
Alright, let's talk numbers. What percent of people on this board do you think are mentally stable, of average or above average intelligence, and don't spend their day cooming to Vtubers?

So can you incline using drama buff?

>>25239369
1%

I actually feel bad for Irys...

>>25238859
Delusional. And I'm talking this as a Sukon + Yukimin + IRyStocrats. I meant, playing tribalfag is fun, but let's try to keep this thread as close to facts as possible, shall we?

Salome is too cute bro’s…
https://twitter.com/1000000lome/status/1531471779939483648?s=21

>>25239430
Not really, pretty sure Reimu would still be stuck as a sub 1k shitter and when everything dies down, Vox would continue to be a sub 10k shitter.

>>25239430
Look vshojo

>>25239369
Just me. Rest of ya'll are retards.

>>25239510
cute art

>>25239582
What about them?

>>25239430
not sure about inclining but Xqc has been involved in so many drama and yet none has hurt his numbers.
Generally, drama isn't bad for the numbers unless you give up or change your content in some ways

IRyS is getting fucking kneecapped by Fauna overlap. 5k for a Vsinger Karaoke is really bad......

>>25239853
Remember that shitpost saying that hololive is thriving?

I want what he’s smoking, must be good shit

>>25239853
Kronii too

>>25239853
5k below her usual

>>25239853
It's 12 minutes into streams, calm down. Also I wouldn't put too much emphasis on this one. It's clearly an after-party stream with karaoke mixed into it to give it something to go on. You got some other EN streams happening right now that people wanna see

>>25239853
I didn't realize this was a karaoke. When I saw it listed earlier my brain just saw "afterparty" and filed it away as just talking.

>>25239928
kronii is having a chating stream
4k is good for that

Holoenwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

>>25239369
yes

>>25239369
>mentally stable people in /#/ are number autist.
Are you sure this is a correct question, anon?

>>25240031
No I mean the overlap isn't helping

>>25239853
all stream numbers right now are just dead fsr, it's not much better on the niji side

>>25240013
Stream title is very important indeed (and thumbnail too)
Somehow some vtubers don't understand that

>no streams all day
>hey lets all overlap at 11 PM

Afterparty title probably filter a lot of people. I thought it is just going to be zatsudan sc chat. Unlike jp audience, title of the stream really affect your audience tuning in.

>>25240125
Petra really puts the Petra in "Anya-Petra General".

Accelerate…
https://twitter.com/178x140/status/1530984930372886530?s=21

>>25240271
Who puts the Anya in?

fauna getting groomed by watame? wtf

>>25240187
she is doing a proper karaoke too. The last one she did for celebration a song release was pretty shitty with no atmosphere. Thought it would be the same shit so i choose WatamexFauna and will keep watching that.

>>25240357
GROOMER HAG!
>GROOMER HAG!
GROOMER HAG!
>GROOMER HAG!

>>25240357
They're literally married.

>>25240191
This is both Irys and Kronii's regular timeslot and Watame and Fauna are meeting each other halfway otherwise one of the two need to get up early in the morning

>>25240357
Doesn't Watame love Fauna? They're both pretty similar.

>>25238923
> 29k isn't enough for a medal these days
Damn this inflation...

>>25240357
Ever since that Mario Party collab, they bonded well.

>>25240187
Absolutely, if she had titled it "Karaoke + Afterparty Talk" she'd probably have 4-5k more people watching. I've noticed that with Ina's drawing streams too, it's always the same thing but depending on how she words it she can lose thousands of people. Anything that looks like "practice" or "gesture" filters people. Even if she immediately draws a Holo character after whatever practice part of the stream.

Suddenly I can't unsee that the crowd is touching Irys's boobs...
Nice boob shape btw.

>>25239853
6.7k is her usual number. She's very stable. Also it's an after party with some Karaoke not full Karaoke

>>25240125
Quick deploy the chinkbot

>>25240224
>>25240495
I've been telling people in this thread. When Mumei calls her stream "filler episode" that's a debuff too, yet people have been saying it's a cope.

>I got gifted a membership in Watame's channel even though I'm not even sub
How many fucking members has this sheep?

How much did Vox's "sorry I fucked up the first apology" stream get for CCV? Realistically he should have done it in CN time but I suppose letting that fester overnight with the Twitter "do better" crowd scared them.

>>25240443
It wasn't enough a year ago either

>>25240738
24k

>>25240736
Lucky bastard, hope you enjoy the sheep content

>>25240357
Almost since they met.

>>25240738
25k but I'm sure a large number of that was drama fags like me for example. That was the first Vox stream I ever watched and I will never watch another Vox stream (unless he has another drama, lol).

>>25240736
ikr
i love green chat

>>25240738
Good enough to secure gold EN

>>25240729
Someone like Gura can get away with that but if you're someone's 2nd or 3rd choice or someone they only watch sporadically even if nothing else is on it's gonna hurt. Or be Ina and make some gibberish title but put a thumbnail of what it is, so everyone knows "oh Elden Ring" and don't even read the title.

>>25240901
Cripple gold

Man, nobody in Hololive sounds better during karaoke streams than IRyS. She is so fucking good. Why then does she always sound so muted on her actual studio recordings? She sounds so much better singing live.

>>25240729
I think people are really fucking dumb and don't realize just how much a title fucking MATTERS on youtube.
The title can easily make/break a stream, especially with the vodoo AI, impressions and other things that mean numbers = more numbers and snowballing interest means more recommends means more interest...etc.
It's something long-time content creators on youtube KNOW and have to constantly be aware of. Just because you're a livestreamer doesn't mean that those things suddenly DON'T MATTER anymore, especially on youtube.

>>25239430
that's the twitch lifecycle, the whole sykkuno gang lives on that, eat smaller streamers by creating drama and coming on top due to popularity

>>25240736
Watame has had memberships the longest, along with Fubuki, since they very first rolled them out. her doing hours and hours of SC reading has probably contributed to her existing viewers being completely saturated with gifted memberships.

Holoen's approach is wrong i think. Holojp typically do a stream/event before the cover drop. Holoen on the other hand do it the opposite way.

FUCK YOU REDJUICE

>>25241059
Somebody told Kiara this the other day, that streaming after releasing a cover it's bad for YT's algo and she answered (not in a rude way) she didn't care and that she was going to do the aftertalk stream anyway

>>25241059
becasue their fucking Covers drop at some fucking weird times. but i agree they should actually do some big streams to promote their music.

>>25240966
>nobody in Hololive sounds better during karaoke streams than IRyS
How many Holos you listen to anon?

>>25241102
what happened?

>>25241188
All of them

>>25240738
>do it on CN time
>when most of the ANGRY deranged fujos are awake
this was the smartest move imo, he addressed the situation to the tame fujos that barely watch him, most of the chat will blindly agree with him and the CN viewrs will have to settle with that

Is it unironically over for voxx? How did bilibili fujo react to this?

>>25241188
it's just resident irystroctat patting himself in the back, pay no mind

>>25241167
is that true tho?

>>25241059
it is retarded, YT only cares about the LAST piece of content you released to push on the recommended section of your viewers
what about unarchived stuff? well, YT just sits there and recommends nothing at all, not even the previous stuff

>>25241220
Feel free to expand your answer.

>>25241304
It affects it to some extent. YT algo is far more likely to recommend your LATEST video/premiere, and if you do an afteralk that dilutes the algo power of the song somewhat.

>>25241188
It's true tho. She is the best (as in control and technical wise) among other holo, along with moona at least. Try listen to one of those mashup (utawaku ones) and you'll notice the clear power gap between the likes of IRyS, Moona, and suisei compared to the others

>>25240966
I agree but who cares when it doesnt sound the same on the songs she actually releases. Doesnt help she doesnt even sing any of her songs on Karaokes because "they are too hard".

>>25241229
there's a bunch of trolls on weibo(not fujos) that will continue chimping out and someone's revving up a spambot. most likely not Vox watchers. shit's fucked

>>25240966
Japanese are derps when it cimes to audio mixing. Kanatan was editing her stuff the other day and the raw sounded better because she overfiltered it

>>25240738
I think doing it earlier is better, anon. Letting it blow up even more would've been worse. Now the chinks can have it translated by prime time when the deranged fujos come online.

>>25241203
nta but this morning, he was talking about salome
I don't even remember when it was the last time he talked about Irys

>>25241393
if he or reimu gets wheelbarrowed is literally over.

>>25241203
He was tweeting about watching Salome

>>25241167
She actually sounded kind of spooked by it and actually considered not doing it, but reluctantly went ahead. It wasn't a "lol I'll do it anyway" situation at all. Seeing how mediocre her song is doing she might end up internalizing that lesson, even though it's more realistically that the song's poor lyrical flow has more to do with it's meh reception.

It doesn't matter how good they sound live. Mori's karaoke is nothing special yet she's the second biggest musician in hololive after Suisei.

>>25241399
As are Gura's list of songs she never releases. She given previews on members and they sounds great only for her to never release them because they arent processed.

>>25241387
>>25241480
does the wheelbarrow still work?

>>25241427
Pako plz adopt IRyS!
Cover plz do the rigut thing and let Pako adopt the girl. She needs a better papa.

>>25241366
I have watched at least one karaoke stream from every single Holo that has done one. The karaoke streams I have on my "must watch" list (as in I won't miss the stream if one of them do a karaoke) are Sora, AZki, Suisei, Risu, Gura, IRyS, Moona, Aqua, and Towa. I try to catch as many as I can though and I also really like Polka, Nene, Chloe, Kobo, etc.

IRyS karaoke is just something special. Her karaoke singing sounds better than her studio singing. It's kind of insane.

>>25240738
anon, imagine this
>Rushia yab just happens
>Rushia addresses it on NA prime time
>most people watching are EOP clipwatcher faggots that will support her no matter what
>yaaas queeeen slaaaaay

>>25241167
>>25241488
what also matters is tagging the MV as music instead of gaming, which Kiara corrected yesterday, apparently people assuming she's /here/ even though someone probably told her on twitter

>>25241399
This. Good example is Ado. Her voice kinda got nerfed on most of her songs except the popular ones that actually have good mixing. Compare that to her covers that she just roughly recorded in her closet

>>25241427
well, a lot artist want to get that sweet sweet Salome buff by drawing her so..

>>25241560
Chinks are a different breed bro. Even Aqua and FBK is still getting these niggas even after all these years.

>>25241427 (me)
>>25241536
well, it seems he just remembered he has a vtuber daughter

I really miss pekor...

I thought Fauna was supposed to be numbers poison why are they over 11K

>>25241605
People see stuff here then go post it on twitter or discord and spread it that way (and the other way around too).

So redjuice is a nijifag? Why arent they giving more jobs to Ayamy or pako when they are known holofags?

>>25241613
do they get anything? i only see big artsit getting the likes
with smaller artsit they get likes but doesnt seem to boost their followers at all.

>>25241546
>Aqua
is Aqua even on the same level as the other singers you've mentioned?

>>25241427
My Japanese is admittedly pretty bad but it actually seemed like Redjuice was calling the stream stupid since he saw it once the "insides cam" was trending on twitter. Almost like he was saying "this is dumb".

well /#/fags tell me which holoJPvVsinger became successful in short period of time? you can't even count suisei as she was an indie and still own her IP
watame, lamy and chloe are still munching on the mud with their shit views

>>25241560
I mean that kind of happened anyway, she would have been fine if she didn't do the leaking bullshit.

>>25241682
Faunaschizo aside, she's obviously the standout talent of Council.

>>25241682
first 1v1 Jp collab.
and collabs area lready a rarity on holoEN lets not even tlak about JP ones.

>Vsinger
>Karaoke stream
>Sub 8k
I'll fucking kill redjuice

>>25241721
No, not even close, but I think Aqua is the cutest and most fuckable vtuber in the entire world so I watch her.

>>25241739
none of them are Vsingers
as for singers as a whole Lamy wouldn't even qualify when she never does karaokes

>>25241682
She's the only JP streaming.

>>25241488
Timestamp?

>>25241732
i thout it was more of "this is silly" but cant tell if it was on a good or bad reagrd.

>>25241789
I think she's the only one in Council that is inclining in ccv? Also with Ina out of the frame, she's now filling her space.

>>25241739
>holoJPvVsinger became successful in short period of time?
None. Since non of the holo except Irys, suisei, and azki are actually putting their all into vsinger. Sora is more of an idol in general than a focused vsinger and most holo fall in her catagory

>>25241739
None of them are vsingers and Watame has filled up a pretty big venue, are you fucking stupid.

>>25241682
She's not. But there's a Fauna schizo spreading lies about her.

>>25241739
JP Vsingers will always have to grind for it, none of them can explode in popularity like Mori or Gura in EN.

>>25241780
Rushia is a fucking martyr for exposing Hololive

>>25241864
Yeah, "this is silly" and "this is really stupid" are similar phrases that can mean very different things. Like I said, my Japanese isn't necessarily good enough to pick up nuance like that.

>>25241805
IRyS 8k get

>>25241862
Fuck if I remember, it was in one of the "Kiara talks for 3 hours and reads SCs" after one of her streams from 3-4 days ago.

>>25241721
Aqua is not a talented singer, she sounds good if she puts lots of reps on a song before stream but if she didn't then yea. Luckily, she puts lots of reps on everything she stream from apex to smash bros to various games.

>>25241911
Anon, the whole HoloEN deserves to get shit on because they ruined the vtuber scene.

>>25241546
>no mention of gamers or ikkisei
Alright then.

>>25242021
the main problem is that theya re realsing music in the middle of really meh streams.
like kaira songs was realesed between 2 fucking zelda streams.
Mumei after a fucking break.
Like make a collab or a semi big stream and also shill your song at the end.

>>25241955
She didn't expose anything but some mundane discord logs. People keep saying she has some bombshell up her sleeve and so far there's been fuck all.

>>25241492
Tbf to Mori she is making a niche style of music that is really untapped in the Japanese Vtuber community.

>>25241805
REDJUICE HATE

About 26k watching HoloEN between 3 streams, with the help of Honorary EN Watame hosting a collab

Shu Yamino【NIJISANJI EN】
500K subscribers

>>25242041
>the whole HoloEN deserves to get shit on because they ruined the vtuber scene
how the fuck? if compared to literally any vtubers outside holo they are the most sterile as fuck
NijiEN and indies literally eat drama as their breakfast

Why does Ina have some of the best, most consistent viewership in EN right now? I thought she used to be one of the less popular holos in the past, did she incline or did the others recline?

>>25242298
I've literally never heard anything about him nor the blue guy.

>>25242137
The delivery was two sides however... ....

>>25241682
Watame got 12k on guerilla morning stream, you better tell me why this collab isn't higher.

>>25242347
Kiara moved to Austria. Mori started focusing on music. Ame became debuff detective.

> Kiara is reclining over here.
IRyS 2022

>>25242347
Constant schedule and streaming habits. Nobody else streams at the same time than her, and everybody knows that she's going to be streaming at that time

>HoloEN 2021/09 - 2022/04
>NijiEN 2022/05 - present
Its over…

>>25242347
She was only "less popular" in very early Myth-only days, when she was 3rd. After Ame moved and started flaking out Ina's been consistently the 2nd highest average CCV except Kronii's brief period of relevance after debut and Mumei's "karaoke every other night" month.

>>25242347
ina is buffed by not overlapping someone

>gen 5 aren't failures

>>25241805
IRyS 3D doko?

>>25242041
Ruined how lmao? By literally doing nothing and interacting with no one else?
Those goddamn HoloEN!

>>25242514
baffling post

Sometimes I wonder who are these people writing the articles.
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/nyanners-interview-vshojo-vtuber-star-delirious-fever-dream-1829400/

A..

>>25242514
Being at the top of vtuber market is a two-year thing
Kizuna Ai: 16-18
Nijisanji: 18-20
Hololive: 20-22
Nijisanji: 22-Present

Babiniku vtuber nerumero play genshin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW-2S3VhJfw

Now have 10k view

>>25242723
>immediately dropped 3k people when he reached it

Numberfags should actually get the rope btw

guess shu is inclining

>>25242673
Aren't a lot of those Dexerto articles AI generated?

>>25242629
Ruined by taking in English-speaking dogs.

>>25238998
Their not the underdog unless you think Salome will keep her momentum and become the main representative of Nijisanji like that he next Kizuna Ai.

>>25242333
>NijiEN and indies literally eat drama as their breakfast
>checks vox's latest stream
... oh yeah

>>25242818
The whole NijiEN is inclining in NA time anon. That's why they get invited to the biggest convention in America.

>>25239430
Nope. YouTube doesn't work the same way as twitch and Vox's standard content never appealed to the West in the first place.

>>25242366
>>25242818
I wouldn't mind if Shu and Ike were the most subbed in NijiEN, they're literally the closest to brotubers and don't do shitty pandering to fujos.

>>25242792
Is this person in a company? Also it just kind of looks like a girly dude, he's not even hiding that his voice is male or anything.

>>25242855
isn't that NijiEN? they're proclaimed the conquerors of SEA and they have flip keyboard warriors here shitting up the thread

>>25242786
hololive is still 20 - present. NijiEN is up there because they won in every metric (SC, total watchtime, total vod views, gold dailies, etc)

>>25242874
Wouldn't matter if she 100k on every stream if it has no effect on anyone else's performance whatsoever.

>>25242982
> they're literally the closest to brotubers and don't do shitty pandering to fujos
almost all of luxiem dont fall under that aymore
all their content is mostl fujo approved withshu giving a bone once in a while the closes would be sonny. but he is boring as hell.

NijiEN isn't anywhere close to HoloEN's level. Sorry to break it to you Nijiniggers.

>>25243175
>more SC
>more Golds
What metrics are you using

>>25243058
So? SEA people are still better than those fat lards living in NA.

>No streams for 20 hours
>3 streams literally at the same hour
>Back hort starts streaming in her RM account
I want to kill my fucking self so hard rn, why didn't I do my reps back in 2020?

>>25243222
Copemetric

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeNmilrBvo4

Sana is streaming!!

>>25242347
She has her own exclusive timeslot that's pretty good for EOP audience to tune in. Kiara and Calli stream at absolutely ungodly hours not to mention Calli primarily gets good song numbers rather than stream CCVs since she's quite frankly bad at basic commentary. Ame is known as debuff detective for a reason and has since relegated herself as the main EN support member.

>>25243222
>More Golds
>Stacked buffs on top of buffs on top of more buffs this month
>HoloEN was gone for most of the month
>Still only won by 2 and needed a massive drama stream to secure the winning gold
Yeah, I mean, I guess you did technically win though, lmao. Still not a good look on NijiEN's part.

>>25243153
>almost all of luxiem dont fall under that aymore
Vox/Mysta still lean into the shipping and the weird parasocial stuff

>>25243272
dw bro en3 will be different i swear although if im being honest to god Sana really was a hard -1 to councils lineup.

>>25243286
>streaming 1 hr
even there she streams little

>>25243272
Kronii is literally the only one to blame because she could've streamed earlier if she wanted to but just didn't.

>>25243342
i mean content wise everyhting is horror or a collab.
I think you might like shu if you are a fan of valorant.
>>25243425
both irys and kroni could have streamed earlier.

>>25243343
Good so you admit NijiEN had more views this month. Now post the SC data.

>>25243286
what the fuck

>>25243125
It's good for the company at least since they have the highest viewed chuuba flat out however that only counts for so much when 60-70% of their members are absolute shitters. That's not taking into account if Salome's longevity is good.

>>25243286
Eh, I would normally be pissed but this looks like a sponsored stream for some Pixiv art exhibition thing coming up that mainly featured Genshin Impact. I'm willing to let this one slide.

Conventions really miss out on not inviting Luxiem, at least AnimeFest is smart enough to realize their potential

>>25243549
No this actually isn't sponsored. She's just doing it to do it BECAUSE of the actual sponsor

>>25243589
Either way it's clearly to promote the event and she can't actually do that on her Hololive account. I'm fine with it.

>>25243222
Ah yes during a month where EN deserves to honestly lose it because half of them didn't stream due to moving homes and con appearances and Supachat gold which is now currently in question because Vox essentially murdered his paypigs recently.

>>25243286
>genshin
man

>>25243286
There's no other videos on this channel and barely any subs, how did you find it? Did she tweet it out?

LMAO nijiEN finally won the wheelchair crown from a bunch of whores who have no drive and it only took stacking off collab weeks and drama

>>25243500
IRyS literally always streams at this time, this is her time slot. Kronii MOSTLY streams during this time but she has shown she is willing to jump around a bit. Kronii is the one that should have went earlier.

>>25243558

>>25243731
Yes

>>25243668
even if you halved Vox SCs, he would still be higher than all of HoloEN who isn't Kiara

>>25243286
holoEN is over

>>25243668
Yeah just like Rushia "murdered" her paypigs with mafumafu. Sunk cost fallacy, all of Voxs paypigs are too emotionally and financially invested to just quit.

>>25243801
>Halved
Anon do you have any idea what the metrics of Vox's demographics even are?

>>25243876
It's not 99% Chinese gachikois like you retards pretend they are.

Speaking of superchats this is another pretty big superchat stream from IRyS. Ever since she broke down and cried on that one stream she has hit 300-400k yen on every single non-collab stream. Sometimes going significantly higher than that.

>>25243876
yes and? he's not losing even half of the chinks over this, so stop hyping it up

>>25243858
If you think My Cat has similar amounts of paypigs as she did back when she was Rushia than I recommend taking meds.

>>25243801
I mean I guess but his superchats are already significantly down this month. This isn't going to help.

>>25243921
The Hololive classic. Cry about your lack of success and let Reddit boost you.

>>25243858
Rushia tried to absolve in the most retard way possible. Vox condemned. Granted i dont think this will have any significant effect on vox if im being honest.

Is IRyS getting any of Faunas viewers?

Jesus Irys got a near 1k funnel

>>25243858
>greyniggers speaking as if they're greens
A tale as old as time.

Karma really does seek out Yagoo huh?

>>25243921
Good for her. I'm glad somebody is supporting her at least. She is an amazingly adorable princess and deserves the world and yes, I have paypigged her a significant amount myself.

>>25243914
His demographics are legitimately that goddamn skewed I'm not joking.
>>25243987
I'm not hyping it up I'm being cynical and expecting the worst because that's what tends to happen anytime stuff like this happens.

>>25244146
You're what's wrong with Hololive. If Holo was cutthroat like Niji we would have our own Salome.

>>25244066
Aside from Reddit, is Hololive even having a fanbase anywhere else? Like I rarely see them on Twitter anymore, and fan discords are pretty dead.

Why are we discussing EN?

>>25244133
S rank luck stat

>>25242366
because neither of them gaybait so they’re considered boring

>>25243921
She's been a pretty solid earner since debut, higher than all Council by quite a bit, except Kronii who isn't that far behind her.

>>25244228
Yes let's not discuss EN and discuss these midgets instead

>>25244146
Please don't admit to being so pathetic man. I say that with her being my oshi herself. Stop worshiping her when shes just another woman. Have some self respect. Throw her money when shes earned it.

>>25244185
>Salomekek
Hololive doesn't need a Salome. They aren't top heavy like Niji and since all the talents are supported, unlike Niji, Hololive is still much stronger and better than Niji. Doesn't matter if Salome gets a million viewers per stream, the fans still suck and ignore most of the "livers".

>>25243921
It "helps" that she has been busy and couldn't stream as often nowadays either, though (and if /hlgg/ is to be trusted, will be busy with recording hell in June as well). Her fans probably can afford to spend more per stream since there are fewer streams

>>25243731
She created it just for this stream.

>>25244228
Because it's EN Prime time? Retard

>>25244319
Sorry, I love her too much and I will continue to support her.

May EN numbers
>total watch time: NijiEN
>total monthly views: NijiEN
>monthly peak ccv: NijiEN
>monthly daily gold: NijiEN
>total SC: NijiEN
>top median: HoloEN
>number of 10k+: NijiEN

May 2022: NijiEN

>>25244326
Kek, that communist-style is going to ruin Hololive in the long run. When everyone gets a share, nobody will try hard anymore.

>>25243286
ok I really rarely watched sana streams Is she always that energetic? or she really don't want to be an holo anymore

>>25244228
>Niji weekly yab happens
>Vox in the center of a chinkout
>b-but look at Mori's lean yab and Rushia

>>25244185
I would rather have a solid roster of multiple people being capable of getting 10-20k or more consistently while getting absolute gangbusters during events and hype games than just 5 or 6 while 90% of the company is stuck as absolute shitters and graduations happening every month.

>>25244228
>muh JP gold hort
they can't talk about JP anymore because they're getting BTFO by desuwa

>>25244133
what did he do this time?

>>25244440
She's always this energetic, she's just not entertaining. Seriously ask anyone who watches her and the same two compliments are "She's energetic and cute" and that's all because she actually doesn't have any other good qualities about her as a streamer.

>>25244066
She cried about real life issue, faggot. She has mentioned / implied that several times.

>>25244208
I still see tons of twitter but no where near the mid 2021 and before levels. I was never really invested on any fan discords but amelias livechat room in her fan discord during streams pops still.

>>25244185
Salami is just a random fluke, she got popular without ever streaming just off her design and concept, nothing to do with "being in a cutthroat environment" since she never actually, you know, streamed.

>>25244416
+Sub growth (even girls)

>>25244492
uh.. ok
should've cried using her rm account then instead of the IRyS persona

>>25244439
Look at it like a war

Salome is on the front lines armed with a massive automatic laser gun or something crazy like that. The rest of the Niji "livers" however are armed with toothpicks. On the other side you have all of Hololive armed with machine guns.

Hololive is going to wipe the floor with Niji despite Niji having the most powerful individual unit.

>>25244416
>Average CCV: nope lol

>>25244613
>however the rest of the Niji "livers" are armed with toothpicks
Come on, KING at least deserves a plastic sling shot, lmao.

>>25239430
If you can live through that, maybe
See: Hololive

>>25241805
>vsinger
>good model
>can sing good
>had some early big corpo support
>3 years on the grind
>2.2k peak on last live
don't go there anon

>>25244440
This is about like any other stream she does.

Ok, I put on the IRyS karaoke stream after that one guy said she had the best karaoke streams in Hololive and holy fuck this current song she is singing, my god. Who said IRyS couldn't sing with SOVL. This is fucking amazing.

>>25244680
but KING is in line with top holos? are you implying that the best they can handle is plastic sling as well?

>>25244567
>>25244492
Technically, she actually cried out of happiness. She had been having certain real life issue, so when she received that supportive SC (yeah, that was a supportive SC and not even a crazy gosling one either), she just broke down crying. Probably too stressed IRL

>>25244185
>relying on a single superstar to keep your company float
That's very risky. It's good for number threads but it's bad from a business perspective.

>>25244821
Good thing they have Kuzuha, Vox, Kagami, Kenmochi, Fuwa, Live, Mito, and Lulu.

>>25244821
That's how you get UPD8 and Activ8 after all.

>>25244821
I mean, it's better than not having anyone that's popular. I'd rather have 2 good streamers than 0.

Seem like there's a lot of schizo in this thread. Question: Imagine someone you hate, which of these action will make you go more ballistic? Ignoring you or Shitting on you

>>25244771
Karaoke tier lists are pointless but in terms of god given talent IRyS is only second to Suisei in the company and that might change given the difference in experience. Whether or not you actually like what songs she sings is another story. People that like white 90s white girl music are going to place Moona really high even when shes nothing special on a technical level.

>>25244516
KING will be back to being the top Niji by the middle of summer and the baseball tournament will solidify that. Salome will settle into being Mito/Lize tier, which isn't bad, but her current wave won't last.

>>25244870
>Lulu
Anon I......

number of 10k+

>>25244771
I listen to Japanese chuuba karaoke streams and Irys is good but man she's generic

>>25244870
Anon... You have to let her go

>>25244941
Most likely, I don't see her staying over 20k indefinitely. That's really fucking hard, even with a big head start. If she does manage it I'll be incredibly impressed.

>>25241399
As someone who live with Vocaloid for years
You either like it or you don't, really
I personally have no issue with it, but I can understand why it filters a lot of people

>>25244956
Thanks anon

>>25244698
This. Most vsingers are 2views because corpo vsingers are rare.

>>25244870
>Vox
Just killed his career
>Kagami
Literally who?
>Kenmochi
Never streams
>Fuwa
Low tier unless he is doing something 3D
>Live
Literally who?
>Mito
Yesterday's news/used goods
>Lulu
.............about that

>>25244956
In a month where barely anyone streamed it's not that far off, thought it would be bigger but I realize a lot of Niji streamed less than they normally do too.

>>25244516
UOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH DELICIOUS COEP

>>25244956
Last month

>>25241836
Based retardfucker

>>25244941
Of course he will because he is the FUCKING KING. Some larping cunt will never step up to the KING. He is just letting his subjects have some fun right now.

>>25245019
She can if her meme and clip game is on point. Kayfabe is good for initial interest but there needs to be more for long term longevity.

>>25245019
Why don't you think she can settle at at least KING's level? 20k seems like a pretty massive drop judging by her current popularity.
20k is around upper middle Holo's median. I'd expect her to be around top of the top Holos

>>25244957
You know, ever since I branched out from IRyS and Suzy, to the vsinger sphere... I kinda understand what you mean. The Kamitsubaki and Riot girls for instance, some of them are simply amazing.

Any stream todaay can contest the gold medal for Salome's waitting room?

>>25244956
ratio chads do your things!!! 10k streams divided by total number of streams.

>>25244956
>only 3 NijiEN girls out of 56 streams
you can't make this shit up

>>25245132
Jesus christ we need EN3 and we need it now. I wonder if by some miracle HomoEN actually does decent and competes with NijiEN.

>>25245213
Salome stream

>>25245264
>HomoEN
No, I don't want fujos. Fuck them.

>>25245260
And two of them are colllabs while the 3rd was a discussion about Nina's sleepover with NijiEN. NijiEN females are literally just the males cumrags.

>>25245209
Cocoa's been killing it for the past 2 weeks, I love her so much

>>25245213
Only if Miko does WWE but I think she is taking off today.

>>25245264
I could see it if they're brotubers. Actually homoshit will not fly.

>>25245343
Miko will wait at least a week or two before she starts off the next batch I think. She is very smart so she knows not to burn the audience out too fast. Season one had a pretty grand finale so she should wait a little bit before starting season 2.

>Vox yab
If Cover was smart they would capitalize and announce HomoEN right now.

>>25245324
new cocoa is definitely a gem yeah

>>25245264
I keep saying this but all they need to do is fucking stream and not do debuff games. Gura already showed she can easily break 30k on her first WWE and everyone's numbers inclined once they played Minecraft again.

>>25245264
Niji EN's female audience is mostly Chinese, I don't see them jumping ship to The Great Satan. Maybe at best they can pry away some of their NA audience people like Shu and Noctyx have, the kind that will watch gaming streams and not just fujobaiting stuff.

>>25245394
Would unironically be a power move. Then the Fujo's can descend upon HomoEN while knowing the female Holos will never bother them because male/females aren't expected to interact like they are in Niji.

>>25245394
things_cover_should_do.txt

>>25244821
>he says this when Gura has been keeping hololive afloat for 2 years now

>>25245394
They already did? Like months ago. If you mean debut them, we don't even know if they've got all the people finalized yet.

>>25245481
Listen I love Gura and think her actual power is undervalued by a lot of people here because of some meme CCV stat. You however are insane.

>>25245458
Turns out segregation was the way to go.

>>25245394
Or he could cancel it. Men, especially westoid men, are more trouble than they're worth.

>>25245454
Are you fucking retarded? EN3 would have no effect on female debuting girls

>>25244870
Anon … You may want to sit down for this one …

>>25239430
I have been watching Reimu's free chat frame and she has been getting spammed with new member all day long. And gotten almost a hundred gifted subs too. So she has probably gotten like 3-400 new members today. And she was the most midget NijiEN female before so I can't imagine her having had much more than a thousand members before.
If she streams again while the drama is still hot she will easily have her biggest stream ever in CCV and SC.

>>25245403
i still listen to og cocoa's rm band. it's actually crazy how they find a similar girl as far as energy and singing style.
og cocoa is pro-level good. no wonder she got the record deal and bail.

>>25245557
>>25245458
And yet nijisanji is out there and doing great

>>25245481
CCV aside, Gura aside of that have literally no pull. No supachat, no shilling skills, no pressure on management, duh.

>>25245458
They will never do that because they love seeing their boys dominate girls in real time, they just don't want it to happen when they're having exclusive me-time with the liver.

>>25245294
like in a gay way?

>>25245458
They don't give a shit about that. If that were the case the most HomoJP would not rank among the lowest of the Nijis.

Hell the fact that Roberu's biggest streams have been collabs with girls (remember that one Clubhouse games with that girl?) has been among his highest shows interest in the male-female interactions the crazy fans that are obsessed with males never interacting at all with girls are in the minority.

What would happen if Salome and Kuzuha did an APEX collab

>>25245556
Who got a statue for holofes? Who's the one being singled out as the best performer in Cover's internal investor documents? If you think Gura's subs and views haven't been boosting hololive in the youtube algorithm and getting them sponsorships you're insane.

>>25245684
Cope

>>25245684
This

>>25245639
Gura has almost 1M in SC. She's only like 300k behind Mori/Kiara.

>>25245701
Gura hasn't even been the top performer in any statistic that isn't subs, please stop over exaggerating it.

>Niji drama
>no news whatsover
>holo drama
>countless replies/yous from normies

>>25245684
the deaths of the hlgg EN unicorns comes...

>>25245635
>Nijisanji
>Doing great
>Salome lost tens of thousands of viewers today and the recline will continue since she is a one trick pony and people are already getting tired of it
>Vox just crashed all of NijiEN into the sun and killed the branch
Sure buddy

>>25245701
That's not what "keeping afloat" means. Hololive would have no issues surviving with or without Gura.
I doubt nip sponsors look at Gura's stats, an EN, to consider sponsorships anyway

>>25244932
>given the difference in experience
Suisei is actually inexperienced in comparison to Irys. She has almost no musical background prior her debut.

>>25245684
They're his highest streams because his own fanbase is tiny and he gets more tourists from collabing with people more popular than him than he does from his own fans on said streams.

>>25245782
the power of being irrelevant

>>25245701
>Cover's internal investor documents
where are you getting these? mind sharing?

>>25245699
Kuzuha would finally be the best Apex player in a collab.

Why is the thread so awful right now?

>>25245920
Kek

>>25245618
The victim usually gets drama buff

moona in millie's chat

>>25245960
This thread hasn't been good since the NijiEN discord leak.

>>25245699
The singularity

>>25245960
It's not? This is actually pretty good. Come back in about 7 hours and tell me that right now is "awful".

>retards thinking that Japanese companies don't care about overseas popularity when deciding sponsorships
every single nip company would kill to appeal to the west, hololive is managing to stay afloat because Myth's massive popularity trickled back domestically and made the Japanese realize holoJP exists.

>>25245987
Wtf moona you traitor bitch

>>25245994
ALL OUT WAR

Another easy 400k yen for IRyS and 25 new memberships. Interesting breakdown of the superchats too. Her fans are pretty spread out.

>>25245699
It would filter some of Salome's viewers

>>25245987
what's she saying? shame they'll never be able to collab again

>>25245771
wow, moona must be a top holo too according to you

>>25245987
Don't see anyone in the chat saying Moona, you got a screenshot?

>>25246020
Bet you also insist in making HoloJP a side branch for some bizarre reason

>>25246020
Fuck off retard. YAGOO himself said the turning point for hololive was the curry sponsorship

>>25246084
>>25245888

>>25245960
mindbroken by salome like always

>>25246084
Nevermind, I see she popped up, guess she's modded. With this and Ollie playing with Covid maybe they relented on letting ID collab with Niji EN.

>>25246054
Pretty typical for IRyS. Being an english-speaking halfie who can also speak JP and streams at what's essentially noon JP so is good for a quick 30-45 min watch during lunch.

>>25246073
top performer in what?

>>25246020
The most terrific fact about this bait is that they are some newfags that actually believe this.

>>25245987
She can't handle her minecraft autism

>>25246108
I'm not the one making holoJP a side branch, the declining Japanese demographic, reclining Japanese economy and inclining American population is what makes holoJP a side branch. Streaming is a dead-end in Japan and no matter how many 100ks Salome pulls she'll never match up to or earn as much as actually popular Western streamers.

>>25244932
>but in terms of god given talent IRyS is only second to Suisei
check your goddamn ears. Suisei fucking sucks at singing.
why is she popular? her being a stacy and and having a good model carried her career by alot plus the type of music she's bringing. in terms of vocal she really sucks at it.

>>25245987
wtf HOLOID HATE except ID3

Did IRyS go over 10k at any point? Her being at like 9800 is annoying me.

>>25246175
meant for this>>25245701

>>25246214
Vtubing's a Japanese hobby, it's niche in the west. It had it's moment but that moment is kind of over now.

>>25246110
Which they only got after they started getting popular outside of Japan, thanks for proving my point.

>>25239369
yeah, me

>>25246234
no

>>25246302
>All of HoloEN gets thousands and thousands of viewers everytime they stream
>It's over
You have terminal number rot

>>25245618
ah, the saviorfag buff

>>25246303
Yes because so many people outside of Japan like instant curry and would be influenced to buy it because of Japanese speaking vtubers doing an advertising campaign.

>>25246303
>Which they only got after they started getting popular outside of Japan
>Oct 11, 2020
I can't believe they managed to do gigantic collab with someone like Nissin in three weeks.

https://youtu.be/3QJD9iekpDQ

>>25246369
It's plateaued, for a long time now. It's just a niche thing adjacent to normal streamers.

>>25246369
no 100k no party

>>25246142
go shitpost somewhere else

>>25246220
She has that Ado lite voice. Hard to describe but you know it when you hear it.

Please stop replying to the schizo when he's straight up discounting Salome's 100k streams

>>25246449
>>25246459
Please stop feeding the schizo/shitposter (You)s.

>>25246302
meanwhile in reality holoEN's fame is at an all time high with Mori getting one of the most lucrative music contracts in vtubing history, NijiEN is absolutely destroying NijiJP in SCs and average viewership, and VShojo are breaking into the Twitch mainstream

>>25246303
anon please do your timeline reps, they got it because of Coco and various other holos inclining the branch, not EN

>>25241167
Do you remember when this happened?

>>25246518
Why?

>>25246220
Seethe

>>25246499
Milord mogging Holowhores!!

>>25246549
Coco and other holos inclined thanks to their popularity with what would later become the EN audience

>>25246535
But I want to know what other retarded bullshit he can pull from his arse.

>>25240815
guess that secured the NijiCN win for the month.

>>25246547
Do you have a copy of Mori's contract you can share with us? And Vshoujo has been "breaking into twitch mainstream" for months and months now and they're still at a 12k ceiling for the three top talents and much lower for everyone else.

>>25246449
>Oct 2020
Feels like forever ago, was such a simpler time.

>>25245987
ID pals always together even if she is a holo reject

YARANAIKA DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>25246645
>literally the only vtuber ever to be signed to THE UMG, not some sideshow shitter like victor or universal japan, but THE UMG
You're insane if you think a contract with the biggest recording studio in the world would be worth less than the crap nijis sign up with

>>25246645
She just signed with Universal and her music is already very popular. Who would command more money?

>>25246547
>most lucrative music contract
we don't know that
>NijiEN
they're popular in asia, not the west
>Vshojo
Ironmouse is the only relevant one.

>>25246676
>was such a simpler time
>newfags rampant more than ever
>China arc
No it wasn't, shut the fuck up.

>>25246547
NijiEN's viewers aren't even westerners. It's fucking Chinese, SEA, JP, and maybe 1/3rd westerns when you add up all the girls audience + whatever ones watch the guys.

JWU did the Vox thing actually get worse or is it just usual /#/ wishful thinking?

>>25246727
its universal japan tho, mori never linked UMG

IRYS 10k GET

She did it!!

>>25246768
it just happened so we've yet to see the impact

>>25246234
10k IRyS get

>>25246234
There you go anon, she snuck over 10k on the last song.

>>25246789
>>25246798

And she quits. At least she made it.

>>25246512
>she's ado lite
same, but I realized something after listening to her karaoke streams...she can't get away from emulating Ado's style of singing but that's not a fair comparison since Ado can adapt to songs....well I can't quite describe it too since I'm not a professional in this area...sorry I just like Ado and Suisei...

>>25246809
Based take, and then he dgaf and goes right back to milking his paypigs.

>>25246809
>You're a dumb fuck and I don't like you
LMFAO, kind of based?

>>25246854
>>25246512
She is literally nothing like ado you deaf motherfuckers

>>25241229
unless he starts getting wheelbarrows or his subs/ccv starts dropping, he will be fine

>>25246768
weibo fujos have praised him and a small minority have been sad but have accepted it
t. weibo screenshotter

Final totals for IRyS. Very strong superchat stream, 30 new memberships, and 10,000 viewers. My beautiful Nephilim is doing well!!

>>25246923
Is there anywhere that tracks just Niji subs? Other than those giant lists with like random Mexican streamers and twitch people you have to wade through.

>>25247003
Still have to wait and see. The truly hardcore mentally ill ones haven't seen the message yet. Vox's audience at this time of day isn't as tuned in as they are during chink prime time hours.

>>25246809
God he's so based. I hate Fujos and femcels so much it's unreal.

>>25246920
Yeah, I guess she's not...

>>25246920
Anon, Suisei being ado's virtual persona is an old ass running joke. Her ado clips have literally over million.

https://youtu.be/JEpqp2Gd8vQ

It's bullshit that it takes 2 hours and funnels for IRyS to reach 10k on a fucking karaoke when she deserves her views far more than anyone else. Fuck that vapid green whore for not being able to wake up earlier to do the shitty collab stream later

>>25247088
alright well I'm awake during chink prime time so I'll update this thread if anything happens. I doubt it will though.

>>25247169
Don't worry, if you don't someone else will. Endlessly.

Why have Irystocrats been so uppity lately

>>25247166
oh Fauna schizo, everyone missed your contribution to this thread.

>>25246809
I hate him but this was based

>>25247219
There are a lot of IRyStocrats on /vt/ and /HIRyS/ is one of the fastest chuuba specific generals. Just the way it is. She is popular here so some of them are bound to be here.

I didn't know you could raid your own video that already premiered.
IRyS just sent everyone back to her cover.

>>25247129
What's with blue women and 1.4M+ views clips of them singing Odo by Ado?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zJ7Yz6I028

>>25247028
I swear, this cover and her previous song are so good I hope they mark the start of her incline.

>>25247297
I hope she collabs with males soon so they all kill themselves.

>>25247305
I came here to ask this! Did she raid her own video? Or I had autoplay on and it was a coincidence?

>>25247320
>blue women
it's red gura
abayo daltonic anon

>>25247359
I agree!! Her latest original is great and I think this Cover will hit 1 million pretty quickly and finally put her on the map when it comes to song views. They will all incline.

>>25247320
Ado is blue as well
Double blue buff

>>25247305
What's to stop say, Kiara, from raiding her own video at the end of every single stream?

>>25247419
I have autoplay off. She self-raided.
Honestly THAT makes doing an after-party worth it, the extra boost in the algo should offset any losses in having a 2nd video for the day.

>>25247235
LMAO he's notorious.

>>25247493
She doesn't have the raiding feature iirc

>>25247493
Nothing at all. It'd be hilariously over the top to do it and be even MORE desperate though.

>>25247493
It shouldn't stop anybody. IRyS could raid her new cover after every stream if you can do that. I love it.

>>25247493
Absolutely nothing.
Enjoy the new meta.

>>25247525
She can't raid other channels except her's

So from what I'm reading in /HIRyS/ you can't raid VODS on your channel. Apparently what IRyS did was set up the stream to raid the premiere of the MV when she set the waiting room up for the karaoke stream which was before the MV actually premiered. So it re-directed there once the stream ended even though the premiere already happened.