/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

If salamis next stream only peaks 85-95k like her earlier ones sus

How long are we going to continue including Salami when it's pretty obvious corporate is botting her to make the IPO go better?

english comments increasing in salomemes chat
its over...

Today sunday so salome get 100k is guaranteed right?

you guys really fast making the salome thread

>>25145006
nah she's still gonna be in the 100-105k range since its the weekend

>>25145021
at least provide some proof like with the gay faggot and his ridiculous graphs

so La+ will be streaming at the same time with some kusoge that fubuki played prior. She's usually a 10k+ talent right? Should serve as a good test case to see if any audience is getting siphoned off.

>>25145021
>going to continue including Salami
everytime she streams. luxiem had way more suspicious things about their numbers and they were always included on the tally anyway

>>25145030
Yeah, lots of burgers as well, Salome is gaining quite tge crowd.

>>25145154
Why even have a tally if you include botted streams

reminder

>>25145021
Weak bait, IPO-kun.
Seriously, get a life

Cute nurse (Sana-chan) play horror game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA4q7zOUMKw

5000 view now

>>25145193
Why even a numbers thread if I can say that everything is botted

At least Hololive being the underdog again might increase the chance of Watamage working.

>>25145212
0.05 Salome

milk 451 is the number just come back when tally is posted

Salome can't be VA because her mic is cheap.

Ema with her 2nd 10k+ stream this week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWK5g1A4gcs

Sena barely at 2k in the same match.
These were the 2 breakouts from the VSaikyo tournament but they seem to have gotten different audiences. Ema in games, Sena in variety and utau.

>>25145212
the only good sana

>>25145232
Anon, even if Hololive returns to the 2nd place, 4chan will hate them even more.

>>25145230
Graphs literally proved that luxiem had a lot of botted streams, especially Vox

>>25145249
Hentai VA

don't mind me just dropping this here

>>25145232
Nah senpai, Nijisanji deserves to be in the spotlight because the compny foster creativity rather than corporate idol shit.

>>25145259
>0.1 Salome
congratulations I guess?

>>25145212
Just post the whole thing, at the turn of the hour.

>>25145212
nice

>>25145300
Probably should have thought twice before revealing her boyfriend.

>>25145300
but vshojofags were saying how they aren't unicorns and they wouldn't care

>>25145300
>Last streamed: 18 days ago.

Is there any surprise?

cute lion/bear? (reglush) feat cute oni (rindou)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAIbpVJQS-g

1100 view now

Do any of you fellas actually watch the streams?

>>25145370
that's not how twitch subs work, you can't cancel it, only let it run out

>>25145364
>>25145348
>People in the numbers thread
>don't analyze numbers, just run into baits.

Genuinely curious but do you think Cover is monitoring rhe competition? It would be unwise to see how successful Salome is doing and not adjust their game plan.

>>25145394
watching a 2view chuuba playing sorcerian

>>25145334
Holy shit Belmond?!

>>25145379
>0.011 Salome
not worth my time

>>25145394
I'm watching Nayuta's karaoke from yesterday.

>>25145334
oh thanks anon

>>25145424
ange buff

>>25145401
Stop saying that bullshit, you haven't looked at at single other graph have you dumbass?

If you cancel, the sub number goes down even if Twitch charges you on the 7th the next month for the current month.
You also still benefit from the sub but you're already not "counted" anymore.

>>25145394
We only watch graphs here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrd6zOCsvrk
chadcast starting

Iofi wtf?

Gura WWE VOD pushed itself up to 6k views/hr. If it keeps up this pace at all she’ll have 700k views by 24 hours

>>25145414
To me, the best they can do is fasttracking HoloJP8 or HoloEN3. But other than that, I don't know what else.
Events prove to be unsuccessful in halting Salome.

>Salome 10k waiting 1 hour before start

>>25145414
What can they even do?

HFZ IS LIVE

>>25145527
Yagoo wanted to save the boys.

>>25145394
I've tried to watch Salome but I can't stand her high-pitched whiny tone.
I guess I'm back to Botan.

>>25145414
Why? Most holos are actually inclining and getting good numbers. As a whole they are still mogging Nijisanji, who only has one Salome and a million of shitters. Don't let shitposting here distract you from that fact.

https://youtu.be/5iCdGR3RGQk Flare Monhun
https://youtu.be/D41jTI2Y5FY Luna Monhun
https://youtu.be/XTXkzG8bl70 Fubuki Monhun
https://youtu.be/xi1fWw0HNW4 Risu Escape simulator
https://youtu.be/SIAX6mgopwU Zeta Escape simulator
https://youtu.be/ISuCKxXyLnI Kaela Escape simulator
https://youtu.be/pAsWxH4ecys Anya Escape simulator
https://youtu.be/5OJOogjnk6s Watame singing
https://youtu.be/Jrd6zOCsvrk Bae Mori Irys Chadcast
https://youtu.be/kMFLHTuysl8 Uyu Stigmatized property
https://youtu.be/w6e95H1nXVc Miko Premiere
https://youtu.be/cvFtzdXx1rM Towa Apex
https://youtu.be/8AmWlqAI-yA Kiara windwaker

and then suddenly 50 fucking streams start

>>25145414
what do you think their game plan should be?

>>25145551
Do not rush
Just let Salome stabilize a few month or even years in
Why strike when your opponent is at their strongest? The best thing they could do now is holding on to their existing audience first and foremost and observe Salome

>>25145551
>Fasttracking new gen
Yeah no, the best they could do is thorough preparation for EN3/JP8 and just wait for nature to run it's course

>>25145648
And none of them are heavy hitters

>>25145645
I still have no idea why having a million shitters is considered a bad thing.
It's not like it costs the company anything.

>>25145659
Who knows, it feels nothing can work at this point.

Nekohakoron karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3PXNxXfCsg

Now she have 11k subs, but her view only 40-50 view.
Not that much change when her board came in 4chan months ago...

>>25145648
Almost no one picked up the 18-21 vacant slots and they still rush the 21-22 time slot...

This is where management should intervene to at least suggest schedules.

>>25145394
I try to watch most Holo streams.

>>25145611
>Gamma getting bullied
what did he do to deserve this?

>>25145689
I know this one. It's similar to Sun Tzu right? Strike when they are weak, stall when they are strong.

>>25145705
For one, it'd look bad on future investors eyes
Why else do you think Anycolor dissolving ID/KR branch?

>>25145551
no anon that's literally the last thing you want to do. It's like rushing to release COD because EA has a surprise hit with battlefield. You'll just invite unfair comparisons and if you end up losing you'll end up being the laughing stock for ages, kinda like what happened with battelborn.

>>25145705
It's not exactly a good thing either. It makes Nijisanji look weak as a brand.

>>25145705
Niji also get more total view

>>25145659
Nothing.
There's nothing Cover should do different right now, just keep on trucking, slow and steady. Don't fast-track anything that wasn't already planned to happen and just stick with any projects that will be happening in the next few months.

Another sub-hour 5k, she should reach 570k just before the start of the stream, then if it's at the same rate as yesterday 590k by the end

>>25145766
It’s the basic
I mean that literally what Niji just did. Only Miko left to defend Hololive and boom Salome

>>25145753
What happened to the hiring spree? Make good use of those new recruits. Cover manage is always behind Anykara.

>>25145414
Probably taking some notes for debuts but they are probably scratching their heads more on holostar.

What would anons here do to incline holostars?

>>25145789
Anon, before Salome, Niji's total view number doesn't really differ much from Holo
A bunch of 3view doesn't really matters when the competition's bringing 8 5k

>>25145761
being a male in the same room as iofi

>>25145820
Yeah
And not like their revenue suddenly return to 0 because Salome exist
Their talents are holding up well

>>25145830
Miko did pretty well though. Salome defeated her only once, with only 1k more viewers and only for a brief moment.

>>25145830
But the thing is that Nijisanji can afford it with their money, Cover can't. At this rate, it might hurt Cover in the long run.

>>25145853
>and Luca can't even handle the stealing BGM thing for almost a month.

>spicy noodle eating challenge in stream
>don't announce it beforehand
Typical HoloEN

Salome chat is already speeding up.

>>25145414
At best probably just tard wrangle all the talents who are too lazy to stream. Getting a talent to go viral isn't something they can just force, it will largely depend on the talent themselves trying all sorts of things until they hit a gold mine like Miko with WWE.

Nijibots already botting the waiting room for Ojou-sama so they can fake her CCV desuwa~
They even make the bots talk in the chat, disgusting desuwa~

8.4k waiting with 45 minutes left, anyone remember yesterday's?

>>25146027
Someone might actually believe this.

>>25145761
He’s trapped in the same room as an unironic fujo, there’s no way he wasn’t going to get bullied

>>25146044
21k about 5 min before.

>>25145997
Salome is new and her debut buff is increasing. Miko is already a familiar face yet with 3D buff, she can't beat Salome.

>>25145939
>Nijisanji can afford it with their money
That's only if their IPO goes well
For now, they have almost the same amount warchest

>>25145939
>Cover can't.
Why? It's not like their audience abandoned them, they are on the incline right now.

>>25146081
>debut buff vs old guard
Retard-chama

>>25146027
come on calling EOPs as bots is a bit rude isn't it

>>25146135
>in the long run.

>>25145394
i watch plenty of holo streams, mainly miko and Gura though. But if there only 1 on at prime burger hours i'll usually watch whatever.

Salome 3D is gonna break 200k isn't it

>>25145394
watching marin, getting bullied by her chat for being a short midget.

>>25146172
How long the run? Do you think holo fans will suddenly leave for some reason?

>>25145939
>Cover can't.
Why the fuck can't they, they literally have more money than they know what to do with

https://www.twitch.tv/holofightz
600+ people watching holofightz right now
Also pekomiko is dead

>>25146172
Again, why?
If anything, Cover with their ~60 talents would be in better shape compared to Anycolor with their 150 livers

>>25146249
It's all going into metaverse

>>25146268
Fuck off

Already mentioned it before but gura hold her 40k median for around 3 months. Salome is just really hot right now.

>>25146268
hey remember when they used to get 2k?

>>25146196
If they strike while the iron is hot and fast tracked her 3D that is. Doesn't Nijisanji have a 3D waiting list?

>>25146274
Hololive has 60 talents?!

>>25146287
What does Gura average now like 10k lmao

>>25146278
It's the opposite anon, Meta is literally giving free money to anyone with a passing interest to metaverse

>>25145939
anon, in the long run right now is just a flash in the pan right now, only on a timescale of months is it even worth being looked at, and even then as long as it doesn't effect the fact that Hololive is growing everything else is ok.

>>25146249
And i stead of hiring talented people or creating models like Salome, we have...HoloX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2RKbXITgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONi2VyTNL-g
Emperor's CR friend and a Vspo talking about Desuwa's extreme entertainment value.
I guess they were bought too. Is anyone safe from Anycolor's insidious tentacles?

Reminder that Niji doesn't monetize Salome because then she would have to read SCs.

>>25146357
Fucking IPO in a week.

>>25146304
they do, but if Salome manages to even keep a 30k median, I can still see her 3d getting 200k honestly.

I feel like JP knows Salome is just a temporary joke but we don't know anything because we aren't Japanese.

>>25146313
Do you know what median is or are you a product of burgerland education system?

>>25146382
3 days*

>>25146367
retard, there's a bunch of livers who don't read SCs, including kenmochi
it's only hololive that makes superchat reading feel like a compulsory for everyone except people like suisei

>>25145551
The thing is the japs are saying Salome remind them of early day of KatoJun who can use numbers to summon number

>>25146387
I guarantee you the median will be almost the same as the average for Gura considering how often she streams.

>>25146396
Which is crazy, I hope to see more EOP discover though.

>>25146395
Wow he's a dick.

>>25146386
She is the flavor of the month

>>25146395
If a vtuber doesn't read superchats he/she is shit

>>25146334
Don't go dissing Koyori like that. That girl works hard as she can and maybe it doesn't produce results you want, but she's still underrated and deserves the subs and ccv she gets for not just riding the cottails of hololive like the rest of her batch,

but other wise yeah Holox is full of lazy uncreative streamers that try to pander to lowest common denominator, the lonely single otaku men. If you doubt that, just watch one Chloe stream and tell me she isn't hard pandering.

Can't say I blame them though, if you got a way to get through life using the easiest street, you take it.

>>25146396
I'm glad Nijisanji system is prospering again. The idol thing from Hololive is burning a lot of people out.

>>25146521
not everyone wants to be a cabaret hostess or a club host like holowhores

>>25146452
There is already more EOP comments in the chat now, the numbers are summoning them

>>25146268
800 now

>>25146396
Jun is like xqc who gather his fanbase from years of streaming, it's no the same at all.

>>25146395
Mito too. And besides not reading SCs she doesn't even have membership either. The SC reading spam that Holo does its not the norm

>>25146476
>>25146521
If you seriously think that someone's a dick because they don't read superchats, then holy fuck.

>>25146523
>Orca
>Hard pandering
Nigger, she doesn't hold a candle to Rushia

Salome stream looking like it'll reach 130k

>>25146587
hololive culture is truly a poison to the industry

>>25146587
>If you seriously think that someone's a dick because they don't read superchats
Yes, I do

>30 minutes to go and 10k
jesas
it's really numbers summon number now

>>25146591
110k i think

>>25146543
Huh, ironic considering Yumenographia was a virtual kabakura

>>25146587
Does he at least thank them? It's one thing to thank them and not read them, it's another to ignore it completely.

>>25146630
>>25146627

>>25146590
>rushia

Well no shit, no one holds a candle to her. Doesn't mean Chloe doesn't hard pander.

>>25146519
Yeah just like Hololive was the flavor of the month until it because flavor of the year and decade

Her waiting room is already better than your average holo stream

>>25146634
yumenographia is not nijisanji in any sense, how many times does this need to be said

>over 10k WAITING
Also, congrats to Salome to being the fastest growing channel in vtuber history.

How the fuck did Cover survive losing their top 2 earning talents and three of their other top 6 earning talents are on significant hiatuses

>>25146651
Not individually, he says he's thankful for superchats but his stance on it is like giving tips to roadside performers.
You give it because you appreciate the entertainment, not because you should expect anything back.

>>25146661
Acting cute does NOT mean hard pandering

>>25146673
Hololive has so many flavors of the month compared to Nijisanji
Nijisanji need more Salome to rise against Hololive

>>25146651
yes he does

>>25146717
Probably a cultural difference. I tip so that my oshi can call my name.

>>25146651
No. He would completely ignore them most of the time and only read them when they are funny enough or related to what he is talking about. Same with Mito. He only exprass general thanks to all those who superchatted.

11k waiting with 29 minutes left what the fuck

>>25146717
If superchats didn't have text attached to them his stance would be perfectly valid. Except they do

>>25146694
As many times as you want because nobody is buying that

I would rather have this funny woman be the face of vtubing than a loli

>>25146775
The superchats to him are usually have no message.

the streams over 10k today seems quite many.

>>25146694
This take is as dumb as claiming stars is not holo

>actually mogging 99,9% of the industry with just the waiting room with half an hour to go

>>25145021
Seethe about it 35tard.

>>25146781
do you even know why nijisanji twitter account has "_app" on the end of it? it's because nijisanji is a starter venture application made by ichikara, the very first project they made. when the company grew, ichikara started making more projects, and yumenographia is one of them, along with virtuareal which is a joint venture with bilibili. yumenographia isnot under the nijisanji application you dumb brick, and its not the similar case as holostars either

>>25146774
120k
mark my word

I can't believe I'm actually saying this but I think it's time Hololive and Nijisanji start recruiting professional level talents. I'm ready to be entertained by people who are world-class singers, artists, comedians, and gamers.

>>25146716
By having a huge warchest they saved up from last year.
Do you think Cover lives oaycheck to paycheck like your broke ass?

>>25145193
Can you even say that your oshi is popular if she doesn't have bots?

>>25146716
They're not.
As evidenced by them getting mogged out of existence by Salome

>>25146885
all the same, nobody is buying that because the only time yumenogra is brought up it's to shit on anykara and you're just deflecting with symantics

she will break the coco's graduation record one day.

Funnily enough, I don't see anything about Luxiem here anymore

How high do Salomes views have to go before you guys actually are shocked until you shit your pants and your minds break? Would 200k do it?

>>25146919
again its not the same fucking thing, it's not semantics, its facts

Brace yourselves, schizos are here again.

>>25146952
and everyone will still continue to lump them together, whine about it

>>25146929
fujos now using Salome as their weapon to draw people's attention from their boy's graph.

Wake me up when something new happens

>>25146976
and you fags wonder why nijisanjifags bother to correct narratives, holofags really only believe what they want to believe

>>25146891
That would be prohibitively expensive.

>>25147031
it’s typical holobronie behaviour

>>25146891
the day vtubing becomes corporate I'm quitting the hobby

>>25147031
maybe try correcting something that actually matters and not "you can't use yumenographia to shit on riku because... you just can't okay?"

>>25146929
Yeah /#/ shifted their focus on someone from niji that's currently pulling in numbers. Soon enough, once Salome does wind down, instigators/falseflaggers/tribalist/shitposters etc will start using them again to get a rise out of everyone in this thread, or spam them to make it look like people are fighting over numbers again.

So far /#/ is pretty peaceful now that there's actually just one streamer to focus on, I'd like to thank Salome for that.

>>25147074
then why haven't you left the scene 5 years ago

Found out there's an official Nijisanji clips channel
>NIJISANJI Official Best Moments
Salome's clip is the biggest in 3 weeks
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PmwJYdFmebc
>309k views

>>25147074
Indies aren't going anywhere.

>>25147006
Better stop fighting back and enjoy the rape holobrony

>>25147074
anon...

>>25147074
then you should dump hololive first.

>>25146716
They made 640-650m yen last year alone. God knows what Yagoo is doing with that money.

>>25147074
corporations have controlled vtubing from the start though?

>>25146027
Chat bots exist though, have you never encounter them?

>>25147091
the topic was about nijisanji and not anycolor or riku himself, why can't holofags follow conversations that happen in the same damned thread

I don't buy the bot theory because this is just too absurd, if I had to bot her to make her seem really popular I'd do it to 50 or 60k for random game streams days after her debut not 113k

>>25147105
yeah but they suck. I need a middle ground. Like a group of indies who pool their resources together or something or an amatuer vtuber company.

>>25147074
Anon, the hyped-up newcomer everyone is talking about literally comes from a corporation that received millions in investment from traditional media companies and is about to IPO
This is literally as corporate-media as it's ever been

>>25147004
Yeah and just for some reason salami's graph decided to worm yesterday as well

>>25147122
you must seethe about hololive 24/7 huh?

>>25147116
I'm just here for the trends and news my man
The 76th repetition of the "is Yumenographia Nijisanji" timeloop is boring

>>25147154
I mean there are a ton of good indies.
Go watch Shigure Ui or Pokopea or something

>>25147150
and just like the fifty billion times we've had this exact same argument, Anykara and nijisanji are used interchangeably here so please stop arguing symantics and try something else for a change

Am I seeing a legend in the making?

>>25145334
B-but I thought Miko was the best Vtuber? What happened fellow 35piss?

>>25147172
any more news about boston? I assume it was a success?

>>25147144
only remember chinks using those things to harrase holomems.

>>25147132
>>25147155
>>25147122
>>25147118
You know what I meant you faglords. I mean when vtubing becomes mega numberfaggotry and companies start implementing stricter streaming quotas, start micromanaging stream content, etc. You'll know when this happens because vtubers will start going on long hiatuses, start being replaced (like Kizuna Ai), and leak company mandate emails.

>>25147144
Yeah they spam random sequences of words while Salami's chat messages all make sense and are relevant to what she's doing at the time

>>25147099
Their version of Elu's viral Text-to-speech tick tok is at a 10th of the original short
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e_z2RQNTVX0
>1.7 million views
https://youtu.be/dU3mkXJsjvg

>>25147099
If you check their TikTok account, her clip is also the biggest among all their clips and now has 110K likes.
You just can't deny the fact that she did attract a shittons of people
https://www.tiktok.com/@nijisanji_official/video/7101616190715383041

>>25147150
>Under the same corpo
>Using the same tech
>Similar business model
>wonder why people conflating them with niji
Retard

Ah shit Salome managed to crawl into my Twitter

>>25147150
nigger you're literally only saying that because yumenographia makes nijisanji look bad, back when yumenographia was riding high you were screaming to the heavens about how that proves that Riku has vision and is an innovator and what not

Migo-keks went really quiet huh

death watching...desuwa!

>>25147248
tiktok is women's land
i saw a lot of yumejo artist are starting to draw her now

>>25147219
Holo merch sold out on the first day. The Anime Expo shirt sucks though

>>25147243
You'll be suprise how good chat bots are, it took me 10 minutes to realise i was talking to one. All depends how they are configured.
I'm just pointing out chat bots exist.

>>25147268
>Using the same tech
NTA but No. Yumenogura use 3D and VR while Nijisanji never holds similar thing using VR
>Similar business model
1 on 1 chatting is far different from streaming to a bunch of people

>>25147340
good to hear anon, more evidence that Hololive is thriving.

>>25147238
>start micromanaging stream content,
happened already with Nobuhime, thankfully that corporation fucking died

>>25147074
Retardchama...
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-total
Look at the most superchatted vtubers of all time. I had to scroll all the way to number 48 (kson) to find an indie, and kson isn't your average indie either, I'm sure you understand. Literally all biggest earners are corpos, have you been living under a rock?

Cover just need to unleash the kr market. The kpop stans will make schizos here look like a joke.

>>25147332
holo is more popular on tiktok though?
to me it is more like a kids' land.

>>25147074
Vtubing has been corporate since the day Kizuna Ai was born, what the fuck are you on?

>>25147390
dear god no, never.

>20k waiting

>>25147390
all the people that want KR chuubas are watching Isegye by now

>>25147390
Niji KR was a complete flop, do you think it will be different?

guess the hyakumanten meme wasn't a joke damn

>>25147074
Go touch some grass. By your standard holo is dead after gen 4 & niji dead after iwa hiatus

>>25147238
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what they're trying with Salome
Solo debut with tons of hype out of nowhere, streams for short periods at predictable times, closely adheres to her character

>>25147360
Even then at her peak yesterday for a 100+k stream the chat was observably slower compared to other streams of the same CCV, most especially when on the 10 minute mark we observed the same worm we've seen from Luxiem

>>25147248
Well, Ame's tiktok has seceral clips with over 100k likes and ove with 202.8k likes even. Tiktok doesn't matter.

>>25147462
I mean- if you look at ex-NijiID and HoloID...

>>25147390
The crazy K-pop fans are all women which is Niji's territory

>>25147462
so was NijiID but look at HoloID

>>25147238
>because vtubers will start going on long hiatuses, start being replaced (like Kizuna Ai), and leak company mandate emails.
hololive already hitting 2/3...

>>25147472
It definitely was planned. Everything about her was made to gain maximum numbers

>>25147462
I mean, the ID scene was also dead before ID3.

>>25147486
Sounds like a recipe for flavor of the month

>>25147151
the thing is they bot her just to beat Miko's record
that's why nobody buying into this shit like how the fuck she gain 30k people out of nowhere?
if she keep 50 to 60k it is much more believable
I can bet you the numbers will be much smaller if Miko didn't set the bar way too high

>>25147368
The principle tech is the same anon, both are using motion capture, the same motion capture tech Niji uses for their 3D
Yumenographia and Nijisanji business model is quite the same, both could be reduced to patron-client model, the difference lies on the client side

>>25147390
anon, a chunk of them like luxiem and you see how they act on twitter. Also, look at what happened to NijiKR

By the way, what can we expect after Niji go IPO? More fund? Higher quality concert? Wonder if their business strategy will change

>>25147561
By that line of reasoning then every single vtuber on earth with 3D is a cabaret club streamer

Has the Vtuber industry become oversaturated?

>>25147238
you either only watch 3 or less chubas or you just oblivious to the state of vtubing since forever.

By girl Nui should have been the next Salome

>>25147559
Well we'll test that theory today since she only needs 38k for gold

>>25147559
You’re very delusional right now holobronie

>>25147537
Who has been replaced or what mandate has been leaked?

Ah yes, 800 ccv and 3k likes. My darling Anyers...

>>25147611
Lol Salome prove that it hasn't. There are still more audience to attract

>>25147622
I've been watching vtubers since before you started posting here in 2016

>>25147599
>Higher quality concert?
Most likely this, because they wanted to open more 3d studios and work on their 3D tech.

>>25147526
>>25147545
The difference is ID didn't really have their Isegye though
KR market now is hundred times more difficult to penetrate than when NijiKR was a thing

>>25147559
just wait for today's numbers anon, if she doesn't get above 100k then you have reason to be suspicious. Miko dgaf either way, she's made it and knows it and isn't leaving as her fanbase is solid, all that matters.

I wouldn't call Salome an "IPO Scam", but definitely a debut engineered to boost their IPO. Timed just the week before the IPO,and she supposedly was going to debut earlier, they definitely saw the potential she had and decided to save her until then.

>>25147505
>Ame's TikTok
>https://www.tiktok.com/@watsonamelia_holoen
>The one having the most likes is 36.8K

>>25147599
More debuts I guess, their strength is in their numbers. They don't really have any big projects other than concerts and nijifest.

>>25147462
to me most of KR Chubas are watching Isegye and then hololive, indie vtuber.
i think the reason why not too many korean watching niji is nijikr's management was shit and pissed a lot of Korean off.

so are these viewers just watching her until she crosses 1 mil subs for the memes or are they genuinely entertained?

Bros, are you ready for another round of delicious holocope and juicy holoseethe?

>>25147605
I mean, yeah basically
GFE is a thing since ages ago anon

>>25147559
Your brain is fucked up by the numbers thread.
You think anyone gives a fuck about "daily gold" outside this shithole and the japanese equivalent?

>>25147703
probably both

I'll never understand why vtuber covers keeping getting more views than the original. They're always worse.

>>25147723
for vtubers not really, no

>>25147710
I do not cope. I already accepted that she is the best

>>25147599
As with every company that does an IPO, they become accountable to shareholders and start prioritising margins, so they'll do whatever they thinks will make the most money (probably spamming events and merch)

>>25147724
Yes? Big numbers = more money = more investors = more popularity = more money

I am pre-kneeling

20k waiting, 7 minutes left

>>25147775
Even more?

>>25147755
because most of the originals are vocaloids which are bad anyways

>>25147559
We would see how it goes again since yesterday's was the most suspicious, slower than average chat for a 100+k stream and a worm in the 10 minute mark, not denying that she is a breath of fresh air in the talent pool but her CCV is just doubtful

>>25147755
vtubers are influencers for a reason, they attract a lot of different audiences that the original won't normally get.

>>25147670
So you just choose to be ignorant, good for for you. Ignorance is a bliss anon.

>>25147805
Yes

>>25147795

>>25147795
She just might beat 38k by waiting room alone

>>25147791
big numbers does not equal "I gotta bot my talent till it's slightly over the other company's stream!"

what's salome schedule? any buff content coming? (although everything is a buff for her).

>>25147599
more limited I guess.
according to their document they said something like they will avoid some sensitive contents streams.

>>25147765
Well, you are a rare specimen then.

>le slow chat
waiting room chat vs live chat btw
https://streamable.com/wypeti

I never kneel for anything. You guys honestly are too easily swayed by numbers

>>25147866
no new schedule yet, wait till tomorrow

This is what I believe most people in /#/ do, just chasing number. There is no loyalty, no allegiance, just number. They can be holofags right now, then become nijifags the next second. There is no side, only the winning side

>>25147866
what buff content do you want? mc?

>>25147894
AH, WHO AM I KIDDING! I KNEEL!

>>25147878
not really anon, she can get the best numbers but that doesn't change love for an oshi. Miko will always be best in my heart

i saw the rise of hololive
and now the eclipse...
it was a good run bros

>>25147805
You see those Nascar drivers with 6 million stickers on their jackets and 10 million more on their cars? That's whats gonna happen. I'm not surprised if we're gonna see floating ads on Niji streams in a couple of months.

>>25147851
Back in the day the very first thing you saw front and center on their website was the various metrics they were number 1 in the industry on, before Hololive took all the records from them

>>25147870
That goes without saying
If they leak any company material when they went public, management and talent would be skinned alive by board members

>>25147791
not every investors do research but they also not stupid to give their money based on one metric.

Why did it have to be Salome... why couldn't the algorithm pick my boys instead they deserve it...

>>25147912
Unironically I think her Zatzudans would break her own record

>>25147791
>Big numbers
Your brain must be poisoned really hard to think getting more than even a 1K CCV is a small number. Corpos care about numbers, but nobody gives a fuck about who gets the most number each day except here because they are all having ridiculous numbers that most streamers could ever dream of.

>>25147878
I just want to shut the shitposter up. My priority is having discussion with people who actually care and not people who would reply to me with
>Cope
>Seethe
>0.025 Salami
I would kneel for that to happen, not like I am biased anyway

>>25147912
karaoke, or kuzuha collab maybe?

>>25147910
KNEELGANG HANDS TYPED THIS POST!

>>25147891
so that mean 20k waiting room chat is as slow as 10k gaming stream chat?

>>25147933
Nope, just dropped Miko after her lost yerterday, useless bitch

>>25147390
It's so gae fags from Twitch are already a plague to deal with in some of these threads, I don't want them to corrupt Hololive with their filthy gooky hands.

>>25147933
Well, it's your subjective opinion and I respect it.

>>25147878
Not everyone is a manwhore like you anon
I'm still Haaton till the day the trumpet sounds

>>25147755
Success in vtuber music has never been about technical skill. People are listening because of the person singing it over anything else. Hence why a whole bunch of mediocre singers in Hololive get millions of views on any cover they release or someone like Kuzuha has songs with 10 million plus views when he is nothing special at singing while much more talented indies struggle to get 10k.

>>25147755
lolno, the original of goodbye sengen is fucking horrific and i'm someone who's been a vocaloid fan for nearly 15 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHXC_ahjtEE
i have no idea how in the hell this has nearly 100m views

>>25147910
>numbberfags were edgy anti-hero chads all along
I kneel

numbers to beat
could she do it?

>>25147990
>karaoke
kek she's gonna insert desuwa after every sentence in the song

>seem like she will mogged hololive's streams even before her stream start
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>25147910
Exactly. That's what this thread is supposed to be like

>>25148032
Easy

>>25148032
sure, i don't know anymore.

>>25147910
https://streamable.com/g3s0q

>>25148032
Salome beating horse pussy would be kneel worthy!

FUCK, I’m even already kneeling at the thought

>>25147912
APEX APEX APEX

>30k waiting room

>>25147996
it's 15k at the time I recorded and it's faster than the live chat
and you know that it's a waiting room chat right, they have nothing to talk about except a still image

SHE REACHED KATOJUN TERRITORY NOW
WHICH SHE CAN USE NUMBERS TO SUMMON NUMBER
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>25148043
>will mogged
My fucking eyes.

>>25147910
i'll celebrate any numbers except if it comes from nijiEN.

prepare your copes, holofriends

>>25148032
Maybe, but I predict that Salome will peak at 120-125k today

>>25148092
APEX is only a buff for certain streamers.

>>25148119
record the live ccv next time retard

36k waiting lmao

Ah yeah one thing that I want blame this thread for
Now /hlg/ is plagued with our "gold" speak and even worse, it's from numberfag schizo who want to shit the already shitty thread up

>>25147891
maybe get a better pc
https://streamable.com/ietti7

37k waiting Jesus

>>25148131
SHUT UP, people are kneeling here!

40k waiting, 570k subs
JESAS

>>25148131
salome is an honorary holo.

>41k now

I wish I knew Japanese so I could enjoy Salome...

>42k waitting
STOP THE COUNT ALREADY

>>25148043
Prime SEAfaggot hours have started, more ESLs incoming

DESUWA IS LIVE

>>25148158
go to the stream and see for yourself fucker

>50k now
holy shit

>>25147850
holy fuck she really fucking did

>>25148183
>>25148191
She’s going to beat Koshien
>MOCK MY WORDS

>>25148174
Probably that flip

Stop kneeling, you guys gonna kneel every day or what? This is her normal number

YOU NIGGERS SAID SHE WILL RECLINE IN A WEEK,

>>25148236
Yes, my knees have been weak since her debut. I literally haven't been able to walk whenever she streams.

>60k
I fucking kneel

>>25148229
she already did

>>25148236
I CAN’T HELP, MY KNEES BENT BY THEMSELVES!

>>25148247
People here said she would hit 150k

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING.

60K TWO MINUTES IN

>>25148008
weak.
if Miko has 120,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 100,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 80,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 50,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 30,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 10,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 5,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 2,000 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 500 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 100 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 10 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 2 viewers I am one of them
if Miko has 1 viewer then that viewer is me.
if Miko has 0 viewers then I am gone from this Earth
Should the whole world turn against Miko, I will turn against the world.

>>25148247
Yeah, and 5 days is not a week.

>>25148267

>>25148124

>>25148279
yeah i'll wait for two days then

>>25148236
Every day is prayer day now.

Can't stop the desuwa desuwa.

where does these viewers comes from? chinks? SEA? i refuse to believe that 100k new viewers from japan suddenly appeared and decides to watch her.

72K AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>25147390
Too fucking late. Isegye already has the monopoly

kek even taiwanbros are wondering if their numbers thread should exist

incoming 70k

>>25148300
This is not her strongest number yet, I decided I will only kneel when I witness her buffest number

>>25148236
>be the only one with an average of 6 digits CCV
My knee is doing it on its own

>>25148316
witchcraft baby

>desuwa

she's a legend by this point

>80k
AAAAIIIIEEEE

incoming 90k

I can’t believe what I’m seeing

>>25147544
Think Cover/Hololive is taking note and making plans for future scouting/recruiting?

>80k in 5 minutes
Yeah it's over. We should do a total views for the month for Gold instead of Days.

82k 5 minutes in fucking hell

>>25148316
She's female KatoJun now. The one in million

No dips so far on the Holo side, whatever audience she’s getting is coming from somewhere else

>>25148368
She literally break almost all record just 5 days after debut
She is aiming for Gura record next and even further beyond

NUUUUMMMMMMBEEEERRRRSSSSS

>>25148316
It’s literally a magic number at this point. She might as well not even be a vtuber
Holos lose basically nothing, Nijis barely lose anything when she streams, the viewers are completely out of the entire vtubersphere

>already 80k

J-just a f-fad...

prepare your kneel holokeks

>>25148278
Don't give a fuck about your garbage LoL copypasta, she's still a useless whore.

>>25148419
pekora viewers maybe?

>>25148316
Her chat is heavily dominated by JP, so yes, it's those new viewers from JP. She is an online social phenomenon in JP now - even viewers who didn't have any interest in VTubers (or outright hated VTubers) are tuning in to check her out. Everyone is curious how she managed to get so many viewers, and she is entertaining so they are staying to watch her.

to the moon ですわあああああ

Will she become the no.1 female streamer on that ranking?

>>25148400
I don't think you can just "scout" such a talent. Niji got them beat this time

>>25148419
>>25148435
Almost as if they're created out of thin air. Or 0s and 1s...

>>25148174
Nothing can be done about it, they spam shit on the catalog and flood random unrelated threads, then /#/ gets the blame everytime even though those schizos are despised here because they ruin this thread also

>>25148428
JOHN
FUCKING

>>25148236
No, I won't

>>25148459
she doesn't have that many viewers retard.
they are all from the nijibox.

>Merely 6' into the stream
>86k CCV
This is looking like a 150k (or close to) stream, friends

>>25148316
there was literally a jap spamming "i don't give a shit about vtubers but salome can be my oshi" earlier in her waiting room, its all people who are new into the hobby

its amazing how its been days already and some of you here is still in delusion with copium

>>25147657
Is the fact there has been lack of growth for Hololive for last year a sign they have become complacent and safe and turning off viewers/not engaging with new audiences?

>>25148400
No, because they're an idol agency, and that requires that your new talent be believably scuffed when they debut because the whole point is cheering them on as they grow

Hard caps at 100k

>>25148485
dunno, she got crazy numbers but she always streams an hour only.

>>25148400
go hard into recognizable anime archetypes and the people willing o kayfabe them

>>25148459
Pekora doesn't have that much viewer and even so today I enter the JP nousagi discord and none of them even mention Salome
You are talking about a bunch of fanatics here, the nousagi collectively write her name on their hand everyday awaiting her return

this stream will probably reach 150k
mark my word

>>25148533
Less talking more kneeling!

>>25148530
so they'll be the type that will instantly get out when she starts collabing with the usual nijiwhores then.

>>25148576
Which is something normies or the newfags probably likes about her

>>25148419
I was watching Watame before and switched to Salome. So there you go.

91k 9 minutes in

>>25148485
Streams are not long enough for her to make it in the top 5 of the female streamers, even with Pekora out.

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this a holocope thread now

>>25148639
seems like it, like what other anons say, she's going to be mito 2

>>25148525
>>25148600
bullshit

Big numbers today huh. So how will HoloEN use this as an excuse to not stream again?

>>25148451
What does that make you for being below a useless whore?

If this was planned to originally be one week thing I very much doubt it will end up being, these numbers are absurd

>>25148530
>Her viewers are newfags
This is literally the same scenario as Gura, could it be..

>>25148649
Kneeling...

>>25148530
>its all people who are new into the hobby
playing the character vs streamer with a avatar

>>25148530
BECAUSE SHE IS FEMALE KATOJUN NOW
HER NUMBERS WILL SUMMON NUMBER

Holobros and nijibros...let's unite this time and give your energy so that Salome beat umapyoi

>>25148537
The Holocaust spooked them and prevent them from doing/playing anything actually interesting
Pekora could have played that DB game she want to, or finish the Metal Gear series but nah permission
Meanwhile Niji offer more game permissions

>>25148316
literally ghost viewers, no 3DPD streams lose numbers to her either

>>25148684
start as joke
stay for the numbers

>>25148530
JP newfags....

Also vox 15k in 5 minutes