/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24570478
Who cares, it's more money for them

>>24570478
The paywall isn't that strong of a roadblock since antis have been getting memberships forever. It's still money for the vtuber anyway, I think people will overreact but then forget about it entirely.

>>24570528
It shouldn't be unless someone is going out of their way to gift memberships instead of just superchatting the same amount of money.

Some streamers want to have some control over who joins. Ina yesterday wanted to turn off gifted memberships but jewtube doesn’t have an option to do so.

>>24570528
people are going to use ARS anyways

>>24570528
absolute fucking brainlet take

>>24570794
Jewtube going to start blocking VPNs to prevent that soon.

>>24570829
DYRBI

>>24570764
You needed to fill out a form to allow it so yes you can.

you cant gift higher tier memberships can you? if gifting memberships is an issue then kick the content up to a higher tier and let the giftees enjoy their emotes

>>24570764
Ina said she didnt want it months ago when the feature was announced

>>24570764
Just raise the price of the tiers then?

>>24570855
post proof

>>24570879
Youtube being bad at programming has a bug where gifted memberships get the highest tier.

>>24570478
IDK man, give it a minute, they just started. Some vtubers seem fine with it, some seem concerned for merely security reasons because members can bypass chat filters, and some vehemently do not want gifted memberships at all.

>>24570949
why am i not surprised

>>24570895
That you need to fill out a form to allow membership gifting? A Vtuber mentioned it.

>>24571056
not proof

>>24570965
It's out of my/our control anyway, I'm more curious to hear what other people here think about it.

Personally it seems like it'll be a net negative.

>>24570478
>people not invested in a particular vtuber being able to view it
I thought it was only gifted to active viewers? And even if some rando is being gifted something by accident, what's going to happen? They'll just ignore it.

>>24571156
I got gifted a membership the other day and it just felt wrong. I haven't watched any of the members vods because it feels like stealing.

>>24571111
Here, you can see I am a member but I cannot gift memberships, because they haven't enabled it.

>>24570528
Are there people who would rather gift subs than superchat? Why?

>>24571465
Attentionwhores

>>24570829
They won't block vpns, but ban users that pay using a vpn

>>24571327
I can imagine a scenario where you wouldn't want randos viewing your membership content rather than people who made a conscious/financial choice to get more involved with your channel.

paypigs are seething because their not special anymore. and vtubers are seething because they lost their safe space. this is not a bad thing whatsoever

>>24570478
Nothing will change, the vast majority of people who receive one will just spam emotes at best and forget they got it by the time a member streams happens, schizos won't be any more of an issue than they already are, anyone retarded enough to think they can use membership content to hurt the vtuber already bought an ARS one or straight up paid for it, 5 bucks is nothing, and on top of that of they just want the streams it's all on torrent anyway

>>24570478
There is no difference, take your meds

think of it this way: it's one less cringey superchat message the streamer has to read

>>24571607
I can see that, but wouldn't an akasupa be a more potent avenue of attention? You get your message read out, no matter how schizo it is.

>>24571465
For smaller channels it is a way to unlock more emotes but for bigger channels I don't know why.

>>24571156
Maybe for the tiny amount of people with enough revenue to tell people wanting to give them money to fuck off, but for most streamers they'll be happy for it, especially if some of those gifted convert to regular memberships and give them a good income floor every month.

>>24571771
and a shit ton more retards spamming dumb shit in chat instead

>>24571607
Isn't it the other way around?
SC = Read my name and message.
Subs = Read my name and allow other people interested in normal content to access the content behind a paywall.

>>24571900
It's a way to give some benefit to other fans with your support of the streamer.

>>24572000
You aren't important, fuck off

>>24572000
Fuck the other fans, they don't deserve it.

>>24571465
youtube takes a bigger cut from supers and there's a chance that the gifted subs will decide to renew

>>24571719
Why the fuck would randos watch those membership streams to begin with if they're randos? It's only attractive to poorfags fans and more "casual" watchers.

>>24571998
Fuck no
These niggers will brag about it and already have

Oh man, I can’t wait to see some vtubers subathons on youtube.

>>24572275
We do not know the youtube rate for the gifted memberships, unless someone has addressed it that I'm not aware of?

>>24570829
>Jewtube cutting off their own supply of income
from a poor country
Doesn't sound like basic economics to me

>>24572377
Probably from twitch mercenaries like Sykumo and Ludwig.

>>24572354
So do people that SC, but without helping anyone besides the vtuber in the process.
I also assumed you were talking about getting attention from the vtuber, not trying to get attention from fans.

>>24570478
essentially, it's just gifting emotes for chat if they keep it tiered this way. Doesn't sound too bad, but maybe the people who randomly get gifted might be wondering what they get for just being there.

>>24570478
It doesn't really matter
People that were going to be members would've already become members
People who were gifted membership likely don't care enough or are too jew to continue their membership
The "ruining" the comfy membership streams with greynames getting gifted memberships doesn't happen

>>24572923
>maybe the people who randomly get gifted might be wondering what they get for just being there
It's supposed to prioritize people who watch/chat/comment the most. But since it's youtube, who knows if it's working properly.

>>24570478
As long as I don't get retards spamming without cooldown then I'm cool with it

So if I just want to leak paid content from streamers that I hate, all I have to do is sit on streams? Asking for a friend.

>>24573176
i have seen more member ayame streams than regular, everything can be found so easily these days

>>24573176
If you want to leak it that much, you're better off paying a couple of bucks yourself, it will be easier. Chances are someone else will put it on nyaa before you anyway.

>>24573176
Anyone with over 1k members is gonna have their stuff leaked, and anyone below that is gonna be hard pressed to have enough whales to be tossing out free memberships in the chat. It's gonna be vastly easier to spend $5 (or whatever that is in ARS, 10 cents?) than it will be to find someone in the weird middle ground of not having their stuff leak but able to have people giving out a lot of gifted memberships.

>>24570478
It matters, a lot
See Ironmouse and the twitch chubbas

>>24570478
It's irrelevant.

The number of problematic people that have any sort of capability to cause problems that are deterred by a $5 pay wall is approximately 0.

The worst that'll happen is maybe a few more 14 year olds whose moms won't buy them a sub will end up in the member stream chats.

>>24571747
Honestly this is the reaction I'm seeing too. Membership was hardly a safe space in the first place

>>24570879
how about membership “seniority”
first month you only get emotes but starting from the second/third you can watch member exclusives like videos and posts it could backfire horribly but it could also keep schizos away

to some people it matters, like towa who would disable that shit on day one

Here's a compromise to enjoy the benefit of gifted subs: Only allow 2+ month members to chat in the member streams. That way they'll be more inclined to continue their membership and it gatekeeps the underaged, poorfags and SEAfags out of the chat.

>>24573132
That's exactly what you're going to get

>>24571465
Gifting in ARS gives you all of the attention without people knowing it’s in Monopoly money.

>>24573536
>reddit spacing
>retarded take
kill yourself

>>24573536
I am a potentially problematic person deterred by a $5 paywall but what I'm really deterred by is making a an account for a site like youtube in the first place so even a gifted sub wouldn't help me any.

>>24574284
>>24574692

A not-insignificant number of subs come from people motivated by wanting to watch a specific member stream, and then forget to cancel or choose to continue.

Killing revenue to stop a non-problem is not necessary. Give it 2 months, all of you will have forgotten. Twitch has had gifted subs forever, and all of these concerns only show up with YouTube does the exact same thing. If there were actual problems, people would have been bitching, and streamers would have been begging for a way to disable them instead of hosting subathons.

>>24575696
I think it's a terrible idea to limit viewing streams to 1 month+ but limiting chatting is fine.

>>24575696
I've heard twitch streamers barely even do "subs only" streams. There's just no culture of exclusive streams because the twitch meta is stream or die and no one wants to take the time to do paywalled streams that won't get them any traction.

>>24575696
I've never used twitch but do they have membership streams, I'd never heard of that anywhere except for youtube. I just looked it up and twitch subscriber streams have a free preview so it's not walled off like youtube at all.

>>24575696
Difference is that twitch streamers don't offer subscriber only streams. They have it as an option but hardly anyone utilizes it. In fact, the only people in my twitch following lists that seem to utilize them are other vtubers. There's a difference in the value of twitch subs/youtube memberships when membership only streams are offered, and im pretty sure the members and streamers recognize and appreciate the vibe of membership exclusive streams.

>>24570528
/thread

>>24571972
My parents never dropped me on my head so i don't look at chat

>>24571972
>shit ton more retards spamming dumb shit in chat instead
So the same as people that were previously membered?

>>24576116
Even the streamers with well established fanbases don't do sub-only streams because it's seen as scummy and greedy to paywall streams.

>>24570478
Some retards probably gonna share member's contents, just like what happened to Ollie.

>>24570949
The only place I've heard about this bug is on /vt/, no one else is talking about it so I assume it's fake news.

>>24570478
>Big corpos
Good
>Small corpos + indies
Possibly bad

When I watch a Holo stream it doesn't matter because there is thousands of members anyways.
When I watch a small chubba with less than 50 members it will be completely noticeable when schizos and autists shit up the stream. They will probably have to make another tier or something.

>>24576958
Never figured out how that is "scummy and greedy" but subathons where they literally sleep while encouraging people to give them enormous amounts of money in the form of useless "subs" isn't.

Not that I disagree with them but does any holos that want to disable gifted subs stated their reasons why?

>>24577276
To counter that, small streamers need that money a whole lot more. They're extremely dependent on donations compared to a corpo vtuber with a lot of viewers.

>>24570478
i hate it and will drop any chuubas that even try to do it

>>24577498
Makes the whales feel extra special.

>>24577498
Yeah because fuck you poor nigger

nothing confirms /vt/ is full of children and 3rd worlder poors more than thinking five fucking dollars is some grand barrier of entry keeping the retard hordes at bay

>>24577536
True, as long as the streams stay normal then it's fine

Why so many poorfag here, thinking they just join super exclusive yacht club by paying 5 fucking dollar.

>>24578727
A lot of underage faggots who can't get mommy to pay for it

>>24578727
you are ESL, most likely SEA. Your opinion does not matter

Gifted subs are good and people against them are retarded. Like the poster above me.

>>24579269
It makes sense that you would passive aggressively respond to people instead of directly quoting them, because you are a pussy that expects things to be handed out to them.

>look for channel that I know has at least 4k members
>no leaks
I guess only niji and holo leaks.