/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Still not using your early thread fag

>>24393828
>The Mysta thing was botted to hell and was probably just a 15k stream
bet you faggot didn't watch the stream

finally asakoyo got to 9k

>>24394138
Koyo is inclining!

>>24394125
>trash is gross
>how do you know i bet you don't even eat it

>>24394125
Bet you didn't watch it either.

>>24394138
i think chloe got her a couple late night stragglers or europeans, but she's been hitting 8,6k-8,8ks for a while, i think it's gonna go the way of asamio, can't wait to see if it's at that level in a year

Ah, peace

>MAY NTSA TALLY
> 1. Luca - (Unarchived Karaoke)
> 5. yugo - (Celebration Karaoke)*Cripply silver*
> 8. Yugo - (Random Collab Clusterfuck, I have no idea what that was)
> 13. Mysta - (Off-collab)
> 14. Vox - (Horror Game Off-Collab)
> 15. Uki - (karaoke Relay)
> 15. Enna - (karaoke Relay)*Cripply silver*
> 15. Luca - (Celebration Off-collab) *Cripply bronze*
> 16. Mysta - (Mario Party off collab)

/#/is worming......

>Aqua - 30K Median / 32K Peak - 2:25 Duration - 360K Views - Karaoke - ~10 hours view verification
>Korone - 24K Median / 28K Peak - 2:42 Duration - 210K Views - Horror game - ~7 hours view verification
>Mysta - 21K Median / 24K Peak - 2:48 Duration - 252K Views - Mario Party collab - ~8 hours view verification
>Gura - 21K Median / 23K Peak - 2:03 Duration - 277K Views - Minecraft - ~19 hours view verification
>Kanata - 19K Median / 20K Peak - 2:35 Duration - 203K Views - Minecraft - ~10 hours view verification
>Haneru - 15K Median / 16K Peak - 2:04 Duration - 130K Views - Some sort of colab - ~9 hours view verification
>Towa - 12K Median / 13K Peak - 2:39 Duration - 197K Views - APEX collab - ~17 hours view verification

Someone can check Mysta's views and their potential cull the next few days.
The numbers thus far show no view farming or bots.

>>24394308
sorry, that was my obs

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>32,428: Aqua (Hololive)
>28,840: Korone (Hololive)
>28,763: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,310: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>23,540: Vox (Nijisanji)
>23,139: Gura (Hololive)
>20,757: Koyori (Hololive)
>20,603: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,011: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>16,612: Haneru (774 Inc.)
>15,955: Ange (Nijisanji)
>15,257: Mio (Hololive)
>15,079: Lize (Nijisanji)
>14,536: Nene (Hololive)
>13,950: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,847: Towa (Hololive)
>12,577: Hal (Neo Porte)
>11,716: Elira (Nijisanji)
>11,109: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>10,663: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,310: Lamy (Hololive)

>>24394331
>MAY 2022 GOLD
1) Kanata (Hololive) - 60,210 - New outfit reveal
2) Miko (Hololive) - 27,893 - Power Pro 2022
3) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 75,927 - Nijiquiz
4) Mio (Hololive) - 42,756 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
5) Mio (Hololive) - 43,953 - AsaMio gyakutotsu
6) Kaida (Nijisanji) - 70,355 - 3D debut
7) Pekora (Hololive) - 35,238 - Among Us collab
8) Fuwa (Nijisanji) - 95,165 - FuwaGusa 3D live
9) Miko (Hololive) - 63,587 - WWE 2K22
10) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 28,244 - APEX
11) Kanata (Hololive) - 43,953 - Clubhouse 51 totsu
12) Miko (Hololive) - 37,659 - Switch Sports w/Flare
13) Miko (Hololive) - 76,609 - WWE 2K22
14) Marine (Hololive) - 45,005 - Zatsudan
15) Sora (Hololive) - 58,576 - 3D birthday live
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 32,428 - Return karaoke

>PER COMPANY
12x: Hololive
4x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Miko
2x: Kanata, Mio
1x: Aqua, Fuwa, Kaida, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Pekora, Sora

Can anyone explain the "this thread is too old, let's not use it and make a new one" autism?

>>24394430
The backlink to the previous thread, probably

>>24394325
Nijiniggers, you are desperately clinging to this narrative, but not having a VOD culled does not magically absolve you of having a stream view farmed. It just means whatever Sara was using got detected by youtube (bear in mind that shit was so fishy and drew so much attention it also probably had hundreds of reports).

>>24394430
It's for archiving purpose

>>24394430
lurk moar

>>24394430
the faggot that made that other thread is the same that just comes into a thread that's far from dying and goes "when you fags are done", and just bumps his thread while people use another one literally until the new one also dies
i hate him

>>24394325
/#/ is timelooping
only obvious bot vod views get removed
viewfarm is effectively the same as having real accounts watching. only thing that seems new is the yt algo learning to clamp them down in the live ccv count.

>>24394325
People are gonna say "there are different types of bots/farms" and while that's true, if we're arguing that YT's automated systems were actively trying to kill the bots during the stream as evidenced by the wonky graph, it should hold true that they would have been flagged and eventually purged if they were identified as such. If there's basically no VOD growth or even a decline in the next few days it will be obvious. I'm certain some Luxiem streams are indeed botted, especially Vox's comical 50k stream, but I'm not entirely certain on this vs just being mundane tech issue stuff.

>Koyori is taking over CCV ranking in horooks
what a fucking tweest.

>>24394481
numbers NIGGER, you need numbers and some sort of argument

crying like a NIGGER "muh chinks, muh bugs" like you think you are responding to a fucking zhang in your head won't cut it

Which 11k offcollab gay orgy r u anons talking about?

>>24394541
We're not arguing shit, no one here knows what the fuck is going on with these graphs. There were no tech issues in this stream you can cite anyway, it's literally "I read this thread and here's my opinion" 12 hours later.

>>24394532
so according to holoniggers like you
>CCV don't count
but now:
>views don't count
either?

are you fags for real?

>>24394549
she is the only one really trying
well, her and lui
but lui was DOA just from her debut

>>24394138
nice

>>24394560
Touched a nerve you little shit? I already have an argument: your graphs go insane and your numbers for events spike to several times what you're able to normally pull. And I have thousands of other vtubers to compare you to and see why that shit's not normal.

>>24394541
Thats how the CCP brainwashes their people

>trying to justifies viewfarm
Disgusting

>>24394623
>>24394560
>1 minute apart
Oh no, he's back. Funny how you fags couldn't get any pushback to obvious view farms going when it was happening but you show up to spam the thread in dead hours.

>>24394624
Chloe streams a lot of hours. She tries too. Iroha is a fucking failure and Laplus is too young to realize her opportunity.

>>24394549
and it's actually so weird cause her normal ceiling is low as shit, it seems that she's getting smarter about playing the schedule / game selection game

it's not like (you) can't buy vod views too
same site offers that service. they have "organic" views too.

>>24394732
>he
It's a fujo woman

Holoen is dying..

>>24394761
Yes but if we repeat IF THE VOD DOESN'T GET THE CULL, YOU CAN'T ANNUL long enough that btfos all the holobronies!11

Schizo quality is declining...

>>24394834
Should we be happy and celebrating for it?

>>24394834
We used to have orcschizo but alas now we have cheap Chinese knockoffs. It's a problem in many industries really

Trying to convince me that those homo stream doesn't have viewfarms going after that atrocious graph will be hard sis

>>24394738
Iroha has a median of 9k in May faggot

>>24394869
not really since people still reply to them

>>24394887
With Sana's work ethic.

Did the disgusting ass charts mindbreak the poor bloke?

Ame and Mumei confirmed for not streaming their PoVs for Overwatch

>>24394912
So it's probably up to Gura and Ina

>>24394912
Whats the PC upgrade for moomers? Dis the 3rd time

>>24394912
Who the fuck is then? No one has a stream up and its due to start in 1 hour. Christ allmighty the debuff attitude is spreading in the entire branch, its fucking endemic

>>24394912
This might be sponsored again then, very unusual for gura herself to be streaming an fps multiple times in short interval

Luxiem and Nijisanji EN is getting high CCV
>that's obviously bots and viewfarms look at those weird graphs, it's NOT technical problems, it's NOT VPNs the chinks use to watch, it's view farms/bots

alright, let's check the VOD views and compare them to other similar (non-botted) streams to notice any discrepancy
views look fine for now, in line with the CCV numbers, we can check if the views get culled in a few days to have finally proof of view farming/botting
>n-no, those views are NOT real, the are inflated by view farms that trick YT and remain with the rest of the "real" views

but if the graph shows viewbots/viewfarms getting identified by YT and culled in real time why would the views of those apparent viewfarms count in the vod views in the end?
>n-no, fuck you, ch-chink nijinigger bug

what are you trying to do here?
the views match the CCV
the SC also is very high and that CAN'T be bots/viewfarms
do they just have a few chinese princesses (or whatever they call them there) that donate to them thousands of USD?
the numbers don't show any fuckery and if you niggers want to argue otherwise provide a good argument

>>24394793
This but with holojp, literally

>>24394732
>>24394785
>no arguments yet again
kek, holoniggers admiting defeat already

24395006
Post tits please

could just use avg ccv. because that cuts out most of whatever the yt algo is trying to fight

Good morning retard

>>24395006
The graphs are the arguments
>b-but I don't accept them!
I don't care. You're not gonna convince anyone in this thread about anything ever. We are still having VOD loops, ccv being broken loops, loops how leaked merch wasn't real etc etc. This argument is never going away.

oh it's the holoniggers fujo again
can you post your tits already

>she's still going
I warned you about them NijiFaglords bro but you didn't listen

>>24395097
B-BUT MY HORSE RACE

>Using numbers alchemy to justifies viewfarms
>While those kunlun mountain of a graph exist

*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*

Here it goes
>25,289: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>24,383: Vox (Nijisanji)
>23,179: Gura (Hololive)
>11,764: Elira (Nijisanji)
>10,706: Shu (Nijisanji)
>9,488: Baelz (Hololive)
>8,739: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>7,366: Finana (Nijisanji)

>>24395134
Anon..

>>24395006
Normal graph with a connection issue compared to the work of art that is the NijiCN graph.

>>24395006
This post was sponsored by NijisanjiCN

>>24395171
EN GOLD SO FAR FOR MAY

1. Luca (Nijisanji) - 36,567 (Unarchived Karaoke)
2. Mori (Hololive) - 24,044 (Chat & Introduction w/Mama Mori)
3. Shu (Nijisanji) - 14,353 (Birthday Zatsu)
4. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,772 (The Closing Shift)
5. Sara (PRISM) - 43,543 (Minecraft)
6. Kiara (Hololive) - 17,514 (Fasion Design Battle w/Ina)
7. Gura (Hololive) - 21,445 (Gorn)
8. Yugo (Nijisanji) - 14 044 (Voice Training! Collab)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 13,928 (Minecraft)
10. Gura (Hololive) - 16,164 (Happy's Humble Burger Farm)
11. Gura (Hololive) - 24,414 (Minecraft)
12. Kronii (Hololive) - 20,765 (Minecraft)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 41,544 (Off-collab)
14. Vox (Nijisanji) - 19,196 (Yume Nikki collab w/Ike)
15. Uki (Nijisanji) - 25,770 (Karaoke Relay)
16. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 25,289 (Mario Party Off-Collab w/Vox, Luca, Ike)

Hololive EN - 7
Nijisanji EN - 8
Prism - 1

>>24395200
>>24395210
jesus fucking christ. what the fuck happened here?

>>24395200
Can't we just look at the comments? Usually comments for streams featuring heavy tech issues (like this one supposedly) will reference it ("don't worry about it" '"it was fun despite the tech issues" etc)
Or look at the NijiEN thread archives, we should be seeing dozens of complaints about it around the time.

>>24395236
They were trying to draw a mountain range

>>24395068
Post your fucking tits, you WHORE

>>24395210
So the real ccv is only 15k at CN time? That explains the 11k on the second stream at off asian hours

>>24395200

>>24395236
the viewfarm operators were bored and started painting huangshan mountain range
i don't blame them. probably locked up at the workplace because of the "closed-loop" policy

>>24395273
why u're so butthurt lmaoo

>>24395236
The epic tale of CNFujos vs Susan's Pajeets across the HImalayas trying to expand their borders

>>24395200
lol

>>24395151
They were doing the stream with hotel wifi and some people watching it were having problems to watch. Buffering or straight up disconnected from it. /Nijien/ was talking about it at the time and pretty sure someone mentioned that too here when the stream was still going

The collab CCV got what was expected from a (almost) full luxiem collab (I would argue that it should have got a bit more even)

>>24395273
Bro you have to accept that all fujos don't have one because their tits are flat as a wall.

>>24395273

>g-guys its VPNs, they all use the same fucking VPN for months, across multiple streams, and it keeps going down at the same time thousands of them at a time
bots or not bots the only other "sensible" explanation is also schizophrenic

>>24395414
>because their tits are flat as a wall.
how is this a bad thing anon

>24395386
>>24371861
ogey

>>24395386
Can you link me 5-10 posts from NijiEN "talking" about it? Only 1 I could find during the stream bitching about buffering.
Maybe you can reference some youtube comments on the video discussing these issues? After all, THOUSANDS were going down, someone has to have commented about it.

>55 minutes to the overwatch collab
>Mumei and Ame confirmed not streaming their POV
>Nothing from Ina/Gura
>No other participants confirmed
What the hell is this ?

>>24395386
Okay, you made me skim through /NijiEn/
and only 1 person mentioned a connection issue

>>24395476
It's going to be a non streamed collab, the schedule is just here to tell you tht they're going to be playing together

>>24395476
Endemic self debuffs. This branch is beyond saving from a growth standpoint and the only reason they even have good viewership is because they're that popular.

>>24395462
What the hell is GMT+3 timezone?
Ivan the numberfag?

>>24395474
>Maybe you can reference some youtube comments on the video discussing these issues?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1tW48TUDvM&lc=Ugz7Kvs5BmkWUt0pi4F4AaABAg

>>24395386
>literally only 1 mention of buffering on /NijiEN/
why you all keep lying

>>24395476
https://twitter.com/ninomaeinanis/status/1526216043349233665
Ina tweeted about being sore earlier and Gura has Minecraft after, so maybe none of them want to stream their PoV and they're trying to decide who will be forced to stream their PoV?

>>24395590
No, I'm not gonna click that link and having my recommendation page tainted
And I'm NOT gonna give them views

>>24395590
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1tW48TUDvM&lc=Ugz7Kvs5BmkWUt0pi4F4AaABAg
> little bit with tech and Wi-Fi issues
kek. okay keep going, let's see more

Mori's mamatori stream was done in a hotel and did not have this graph even with connection problems. Ame's bus skit stream while traveling did not have a retarded graph even with connection issues. How dishonest are you fucking faggots

>>24395651

>>24395590
Mori and ina tech issues are more evident than this. Plus they don't make a fucking zhang mountain

>>24395685
>Mountain range graph
>Bit of a tech issue
so which one?

Bug spray

Holocope general

That image is the perfect bugspray for the holobugs.
When posted they immediatelly go silent.
>>24395317

Luxiem and their consequences were a disaster for this thread.

>>24395685
Bit of tech issues don't lead to the a fucking mountain range.

>>24395677
No one is buying that it was the tech issues no matter how fujosisters cope. After all, this ISN'T THE FUCKING FIRST TIME THIS SHIT HAS HAPPENED ON A BIG LUXIEM STREAM

>>24395731
>Solo kusoge
>4 homos collab
Sure thing sis

>>24395685
>A little
Riiiiiiight as always fujos trying to defend them when even the nijijp fans started to notice their mountain graphic in more than one stream, no one like cheaters

>>24395784
Speaking of which i would like to see 1 big (20k) luxiem stream with a normal graph, doubt it exist.

Bugxem offcollabs
>41k asian time
>24k asian time
>11k off asia hours

>>24395685
>>24395713

Even the Niji lads at matome is tired of this bullshit

btw, this is a Mario Party Superstars collab of the same ccv that happened within the past week. I'm -sure- this graphs looks similar, right

Damn I didn't know every Luxiem stream was from Hotel Wifi. Mystery solved

>>24395670
Once again, first 'buffering' issue was mentioned in /NijiEN/ 40 minutes into the stream.
>>24395462
First 40 minutes of the graph look like a fucking mountain range.
Dare to explain, please.

>>24395895
So they stream on hotel wifi everyday?

>>24395895
Like people said that doesn't mean anything because this isn't the first time we saw this crap of graphics. Or do you want us to post streams with buffering and disconnection too.

>>24395200
ok, that's an obvious botting

I have no issues with saying the ludicrous CCV karaoke streams are botted 100% but it seems ridiculous to think that an (almost) full Luxiem off-collab would need bots to reach a mere 25k, given that Niji JP male streams that fell below expectations have also had gigafucked graphs I do think this case is something different, not that we'll ever figure out what it is with obnoxious fujos in the thread and the retards who respond to them all let Luxiem live in their head rent-free

>>24395731
>trying to prove obvious tampering
>but mine has more views
how does this help your case you absolute giga retard

>>24395837
not quite 20k. this would have made sense if not for the gradual decline after initial peak.
sims4 is good fujobait game. they can make all kinds of scenario.

He just exclusively streams from bad hotel wifi, you see

>Oh hey, let's stream 500K celebration on hotel wifi!
>What a great idea!

Is this the next buff game?

NijiHotelwifi

>Kobo PvZ mogged the entired nijicn
>gets mass reported as a result
>I uploaded this bait days ago
>now zhangs are coping with new vod views
Too predictable

>>24396160
It's markie with horror game
Of course it will be big

>>24396160
Yes

>>24396160
Good thing Gura already asked for permissions on it, just gotta get them

So now they fujos new excuse:
>hotel wifi
So they are living in hotels since March?

y'all people must stop to complain and cope , accept it luxien is the new face of vtubing
I'm a good buttlicker zhangs?

>>24396160
Gura has been asking for perms since the day teh game became a thing

>>24396289

Very interesting comparison.
Thank you, anon.
>>24395918

If 4/5 of Luxiem in an off collab with bots only got to 25k those are some really shitty bots

>>24396243
Of course! Those poor souls!
Let's send more SC and viewfarms to get them a house and better wifi! Don't forget to send extra for Vox's medical bill!

>>24396289
They should go back and stream in b2, the xhangs can send money easily. No need for vpn, no need to pay for new account.

>>24396332
Their base number is low. Explains the 2k at NA time

>>24395200
That Mysta chart looks like the fucking grand canyon.

>30 mins till collab, still no frame

>>24396325
I'm seriously not sure how this is disproving anything other than showing the VOD was bigger. you keep posting it but try attaching an argument to the image

>>24396325
You know that viewfarms still count towards VOD right?

>>24396325
>Normal stream vs a fucking mountain
Take a hint zhang

if luxiem use bots what's their actual CCV range? 5k for Vox?

>>24396400
I would assume that retard is a flip, one who voted for Marcos. Thats how their mind work.

>>24396458
around 8-9K I'd say
His normal game streams have those kinds of numbers

>>24395731
>le bugspray for le holobugs
holy shit zhang, make up your own insults, why are you fags doing this in all forms of online communication? surely lao tzi or sun tzu or zhuge bang has some wise sayings about not literally copy pasting enemy tactics you can reference

>>24396458
3k avg

>>24396399
stupid holoen whores, please understand

>>24396458
I take it back, those numbers are for blockgames

>>24396395
Yeah no shit if they stream when the chinks are asleep their numbers are going to be low, that has no correlation with their views during chink time

>>24396443
>a mountain
it's a fucking cordillera

>>24396458
Nah they can break 10k on buff shit just fine, you don't get to this many subs and SC if you can't, nor can you always get botted.
But I'm pretty sure 20k is a bit of an endeavor for them. To be honest today's ofcollab luxiem game should not have been so low without bots, but I guess the game debuff is too strong for fujos

>>24396325
here's another comparison

>>24396400
it's not that hard, holobro
>similar CCV
>similar duration
>similar views
one is legitimate the other... is not?
what are YOU trying to prove here?

>>24396505

>>24396458
the whole box is around 10-12k from my estimate. vox holds about 7-9k solo. he was around 5k in january after debut buff wear off.

>>24396534
Ah nijicn

who is this retard that thinks "but my number is bigger" is somehow an argument in this discussion or what's being talked about, that's some genuine lack of oxygen to the brain shit right there

>>24396096
It’s because the fandom behaves in a really disgusting, dishonest, disingenuous manner. No one would give a fuck if the Nijis, who operate in the same fucking timezone as NijiJP, would compare to them and be like wow, it’s cool they’re on an even playing field with the JPs. No, that’s not how they operate these fans. They’ve spent half a year continuously making calculated efforts to try and bring hololive down. They screenshot ccv before streams even pick up and talk about holo declining, then proceed to talk to themselves for half a thread about how hololive is failing and their methods are coming back to bite them. They’ll take any chance to screenshot their streams that have a higher ccv than a holo to shit on them. They’ve even done disgusting shit like make watch hour charts while leaving out that nijien have like 1/3 the ccv as holoEN and have streamed 4 times as many hours. But again, that doesn’t fit their agenda. They want to do whatever they possibly can to shit on hololive. But they go quiet when it’s JP hours because they don’t want to see a 30k+ Aqua stream for a 40k+ Marine stream!

They’re literally a pack of hyenas who come here to try and selectively pick their targets. That’s why people are fucking tired of them

>>24396534
Anon? There isn't a single popular holo that would plateu their views to 2k streaming in any timeslot. Fucking BAE and Sana haven't achieved this and they do schizo time jumps across all timeslots.

>>24396573
What does have to do with graphs you retard? Jesas this is why arguing with chinks and russians is stupid, you have no concept of a debate

>tries to move the goalpost to VOD views but still ignored the fucked up graph
I see you nigger.

>>24396434
since when?
you, holoniggers, claim that the graphs is YT fighting back against these "viewfarms"

if YT can verify that those viewers are not legit why would they count for the final view count?

>>24396443
>>24396486
>no argument
cry more holobug

>>24396557
>18k vs 25k le bots
OH NO NO NO NO
Kobo and the kusa continues to haunt them

>>24396636
T I T S

>>24396636
Now this is retardation

>>24396636
Shut the fuck up Imelda Marcos, return the painting you thieves

>>24396548
Their real ccv was around 16k-18k. 8 can accept that but suddenly multiple mountains just to get 25k at the beginning 9f the same time mark before the number bleeding

Fucking hell i know chinese culture is all about stealing other peoples shit, but can you atleast come up with your own insults chinks.

>>24396636
>since when?
Since forever you chink tard, view farms aren't even originally FOR livestreams. View farms are literally just hundreds of phones watching something, why would youtube pick it up?

>>24396573
Because the red line goes crazy during their streams, that is what started the bot suspicion and what the entire argument hinges on.

>>24396631
from the
>similar duration
>similar CCV
>similar views

we can see that those views for Mysta's stream are as legit as Kanata's ones so there is not botting

the graphs can be a combination of VPNs and wi-fi fuckery since they stream from a hotel/air-bnb

holy fuck there's 20 minutes and still no reservation what the fuck are these bitches doing

>>24396711
>Hotel wifi
Ah, got it
They have been streaming in hotel for the past few months

>>24396557
>5 days ago
I am holding on that image and your post and let's compare again in 5 days
I won't forget, anon

seething zhang fujos again, I think I will skip these thread discussion for a while, keep seething fujos let me give you a clue "nothing will change no matter how much you seethe"

What's funny is how it only peaks to just beat Gura's number and plummets to the ground like $LUNA.

>>24396728
I’m pretty sure they realized that 4 stacking is dumb and are postponing it, or will instead just join in on the MC fun later because it’d be retarded to stream 2 hours then call it a day

>>24396597
Holo EN fans are across the world while Luxiem fans are 99% chinks, I'm sure as fuck not saying that's a good thing but it explains their views in different timeslot. And bots don't sleep, if they were boosting every single stream they'd be schizo enough to boost the euro hours ones too

Look at this retard lawyering for bugxem. They are now disqualified from the paralympics. Go create your own safe haven.

>>24396635
they're actively avoid any argument involving kobo

>>24396668
>>24396673
>>24396683
answer the question, bugs

>>24396636
I'm not asking that much, nigger.
Explain this
>>24395932
Without the wifi cope.
Or is the /NijiEN/ thread that much ignorant to tech issues?

>>24396711
All you can see tard is that someone got a number and someone else got a number using view farm, and yes they're similar. It proves nothing and just clings to the "VOD gets culled for view farms theory trust me bro we have an entire stream where we don't know what happened to back this up" theory. Anyway, you made your argument clear at last, at least people can fucking understand and you're not just posting screenshots.

>>24396808
Here retard, you missed it
>>24396701

>>24396802
>>24395171
>>24395217
well, that's something new for the holocope list
kek

>>24396799
>And bots don't sleep
View farms do dum dum. And think about it like this: why would they encourage Luxiem to leave their chink timeslots with equal views? Christ.

>>24396683
Time to dilate pinklawan sis

Holobug deflection thread

>>24396842
do you just type random phrases you've seen others use and hope they make sense?

>>24396842
>En tally
>Holocope
>it was made just so Niji can win
True to the spirits of chinks
Copy others and claim your imaginary victory

>a 5 person collab with no POV
It seems like HoloEN has finally found a way to fully debuff themselves

>CCV don't count
>Views don't count
>Superchat doesn't count

holy cope

Also,
>pic
What happened here?
6.7K for the second strongest HoloEN after Gura? Is she reclining? These numbers are pathetic.

>>24396759
anon, kobo's just got her channel back, she's been banned since 2 days ago
if they can't even surprass kobo in 5 days, that's even more embarassing

>>24396877
Have you told your mom and dad that youve spending for gay porn, Narcostard?

>No waiting room
>Peak 20 minutes into the stream
>Bleed viewers the rest of the stream
>Have the wonkiest graphs in all of livestreaming
>Proceed to stream in NA time
>Get 1/5th the viewership
>Rinse and repeat
This is what NijiCN apologists want to accept as normal

>>24396978
Stop deflecting and answer the fucking question
>>24396823

>deflecting to mumei now
Nice try retard

>>24396759
Kobo has been banned for 72 hours since then, it is more like a 2 day vod.

>>24396969
They'll play and then afterwards put up a VOD on the worst performing Holo's channel without any fanfare.

>>24396978
Anon, this always happens when someone other than Ina streams in this timeslot.

jesus fucking christ kronii what the fuck is her problem

why some of you guys still in heat of this nonsense discussion, here have some Bob Ross to chill your day

>>24396978
I knew you disguting philippinoes are retarded but jesus christ man. its a superchat reading stream. its still higher than Vox's gaming streams in a NA timeslot

>>24396785
That's been like 50% of their Cripple Golds this month.

The peenoise are wide awake

>>24396807
Blue cunny just generate so much seethe

>>24396978

how's kobo sub growth now? is it still the same before she was banned?

>>24397049
Kronii is busy collabing on her roommate's account.

>>24397085

>>24397085
This shit is actually fucking unheard of. Not even Sana gets this low when overlapped, let alone Fauna or Bae.

>>24397044
>new excuses
I bet you weren't around during Vox's NA timeslot stream and I bet you didn't have the same opinion back then, huh?

>6.7K for the second strongest EN holowhore
>Gura not even with the highest EN stream of the day
the branch is reclining heavily

>>24397055
Wow those are some nice mountains Bob.

>>24396920
but you lost?

>>24396978
EN audience doesn't seems that receptive to Mumei's zatsu even with a villain gimmick even Koyo with Asakoyo which has nicely gained ground through grinding and Chloe had higher viewers.

>>24397080
>only 2 remaining targets
And now shes back to dunk on the whole of Nijizhang

>>24397153
of course anon, Bob drawing mountain in his wet on wet technique combine with his calming voice, What more could you ask for ?

what's inconsistent?
the point of the new flagging algo is to prevent the crypto scams from trending or polluting their recommendation. they only flag views as suspicious while stream is live. they still process the views they removed from the live ccv at a later time. that's why the vod views stays consistent for "culled" audience.
so let's say the algo now starting to recognize viewfarms as suspicious and started culling them on the live ccv. we start seeing worm pattern on all niji big streams (3d debuts, 3d live, etc). the only circumstantial evidence is the worm graph. vod views might still be counted after the fact.

>200+ posts of seethe over funny graphs

>>24397058
Technically it’s a regular zatsu with the Ina timeslot debuff. She wanted to catch up on SCs, but she didn’t want the stream to be just that. This happened last time she did a zatsu at this time, and all the other times, and everyone except Ina gets a debuff when they do it.

>>24397085
>no zhang boost
>no peenoise and seaniggers
>only neets
So this is the face of en gaychuuba

>>24397111
5K since unbanned

>>24396995
keep seething for another six years :)

>>24397085
What happened here?
2.4K for the strongest NijiEN? Is he reclining? These numbers are pathetic.

Imagine arguing that the most fucked graph in the history of graphs is not fucked because NUMBERS, when the whole reason the NUMBERS are called into question is the fucked up graph.
We don't know what's going on, no shit, but things just break whenever the homos stream and they broke especially hard today.

So Hololive won today again? That the cause for the fujo seethe?

>>24397085
The fun part about people coping that
>t-the chinks are asleep
Is that this means:
90% of his audience is chink
literally no chink is awake late, but somehow HoloJP can get around 5k views at literally any point in time

>5 minutes till the overwatch collab
>No frames, no tweet
That's pretty impressive

>>24397376
>Holo wins gold
>Niji wins cripple gold
then thread goes to shit guaranteed

>>24397376
Idk anon, there's like only a dozen posts from fujos seething in this thread
Seethe posts from certain paralympics losers in the other hand.....

>>24397376
>Aqua, Korone and King on Podium
>4 man homos collab only win cripple gold even with some fuckery
Of course

>>24396978
Funny you bring up superchats because even those are disingenuous and full of fake/dirty money. Or did you already forget about the bitch who ran a donation drive only to turn around and donate the money to Vox?

Their CCV's are super sus and due to stories like the one above, I don't even trust their superchat numbers. Everything about the numbers they put up is fake and manufactured.

one day one has a buff stream that goes great while the other one has a pov of a multipov of a debuff game on a weird slot and that gets screenshotted for baits
next day, the same thing happens, except the actors get switched
repeat ad infinitum forever
i'm in hell

>>24397376
Plus we got one of the most fucked up graphs in a long time from the Niji boys. Chinks have been deflecting for hours.

>>24397456
honestly these days even if Niji wins gold, the zhang fujos will continue to seethe 100% guarantee

>>24397352
>not denying thievery
>proud of it
And this is why pilipenis remains a 3rd worlder. Im definitely seething as I take my gains from crony stocks, retardchan

>>24397149

>>24397552
They can just viewfarms until global gold again
why won't they?

>>24397085
This is how you know they'll always be true midgets. It's literally impossible for anyone above low-tier holo to produce a stream in this range. Imagine having this pathetic floor when you're not chink pandering.

>>24396922
CCP broken NPC behaviour please understand

>>24397603
who knows ? maybe their allowance isn't enough to boost them till global gold, you have to remember one zhang fujos need to trick their own kinds to superchat vox

>>24397679
Reminder Mysta also got like, 3k average on a TF2 stream. Apparently women will NOPE the fuck out of any stream they can't watch for the slightest inconvenience.

Luxiem was the death of this thread, their fans and their antis are equally obnoxious cunts that can't talk about literally anything else.

btw seeing pegor numbers on her shorts really hurts my soul...

so guess they cancelled the overwatch collab? any updates?

>>24397782
Nothing

>>24397525
>Or did you already forget about the bitch who ran a donation drive only to turn around and donate the money to Vox?
post quote for archive purposes?

>all these asshurt over paralympics
Jesus Christ, EN posters really is the cancer of /#/ thread
please keep your coping mechanism delusions to yourselves, thank you

>>24397782
Global thinks Gura might have just put down the wrong time.

>>24397782
Ame did a member post not even 2 hours ago to say she won't stream it and Mumei talked about it in her stream earlier today, so they clearly though it was a thing until then

>>24396573
>similar duration
>2 hours VS 2 hours 50 minutes
ogey

>>24397768
she's trying her best... pegor...

>>24397768
who knew the girl that only knows how to stream and has done so forever can't into prerecorded content

>>24397503
Did anyone ask for your opinion?

>>24397762
who is that green chubba?
I never see her before

>>24397871
Mumei said she might be late because she had to pick up Animal, but that they were told to start without her in that scenario, and that she’d retweet the other frames.

>>24397768
The absolute HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW INTERNET ENJOYERs
Pekkers...don't feel too bad, you're a good streamer at least. You'd never make it as a normal content creator though.

>>24397955
yeah, me

From what Mumei was saying it was supposed to be an OW2 collab but not everyone involved did their perms reps and so it might be cancelled now if they don't want to play the original.

At least Mori can stream ER at NA primetime without any overlap, right ? Should be a 10K stream

>Mori wasn't overlapping after all
apologize

>>24397820
>>24119278
try this

>>24397820
>>24119278
>TW fujo does a donation drive to get a billboard ad or bus ad for Vox
>organizer instead runs away with money and donates to it to Vox
>drama ensues
and some other dumb shit

>>24397955
Continue seething for another 400+ posts then
I'd appreciate if you do it on another thread however, since I rather not see discussions of low tier chuubas or midgets in a numbers thread

HoloEN is dying...

>>24397830
>said the JPtard having a meltdown when Vox won Gold

>>24398210
but Hololive is thriving

>>24398063
>>24398156
my fucking sides
thank you

>>24398208
>>24397085
Correct

>>24398063
>>24398156
It's a dog eat dog (pppfftttt) world...

>>24398156
Taiwanese Imelda Marcos, they are everywhere!

>No OW collab
>Mori can't even start her stream properly
Can we just axe the branch ?

>>24398222
>Vox won gold over JP
>Damn Miko is the slip queen LMAO

>NijiEN outperforms HoloEN
>BOTS! VIEWFARMS! WHAT DO YOU MEAN MY OSHI IS RECLINING?????
meds

watchtime 5/15
>2,715,928 NIJISANJI EN (700.9 hrs, 196 streams, 平均3,875人 avg)
>1,764,310 Hololive EN (253.6 hrs, 85 streams, 平均6,958人 avg)

may monthly vod views
>Nijisanji 29,437,895
>Hololive 27,893,731

gold
>NijiEN 9 - 7 HoloEN

>>24398156
Meanwhile peenoise cant afford to support their gaychuuba and spends the whole day parading here instead

Mori is a 3view...

>>24398208
>I decide what and who post in this thread
No.

>>24398531
I'll save her!

>>24398467
That's what you deserve for watching holoen whores

>>24398484
and yet Hololive is winning, so sorry nijisister.

>>24398531
But yeah her stream just fucking died.

>>24398572
>reading comprehension

>>24398484
>watchtimes
NijiEN have twice the numbers
>VOD
Again, twice the number but damn the difference isn't that big
>Gold
only lead by 2 gold
also
>EN
kys

>>24398665
>holoJP winning >>24337627
>many praises >>24337907 >>24342326
>holoEN losing
>nooo they have twice the number it doesnt count!

>>24398872
are you legitimately retarded? read his post again

>>24398872
Yes, they doesn't count
What now bitch?
also
>EN
kys

>>24398471

>>24397085
oof

>>24398484
gold
>HoloEN 9 - 6 NijiCN
just fixed for you zhang also your mountains belong to china so their out of the cripple gold

>>24398960
>>24398964
cry more ENtards

>>24398872
It is expected that Niji win in watchtimes and VODs since they have double the members
But if they lost on that front then I don't know what to tell you

>>24398978
>HoloJP
>NijiJP
>NijiEN
>NeoPorte
>HoloEN
>VSpo
>HoloID

Can't wait until VSpo catches up :)

>>24399185
>Calling me ENtards
>on a post dunking on EN
there's no cure for retardation

>>24399094
>even if you dq the unsubstantial bot claims, HoloEN still lost daily gold 6 out of 15 days
This is embarassingly pathetic

>>24399284
>watchtime
>member: 20-11
nice comparasion zhang

>>24399284
You do know that Niji is 4th in average ccvs/median right? Falling behind VSPO and Neo Porte

VPNs were a mistake

>>24398471
Kek if it happens again then what? It's not bot still count as gold am I right?

>>24399185
>>24399284
Why are the bugs here?

jesus christ, after all that bullshit we had to suffer from chumkeks or all the bullshit from deadbeats that we still get and you embarrass us like this, get your shit together

>>24399397
so so you want me to out all their viewfarms streams since may 1 sure:
>HoloEN 16 - 0 NijiCN
anything else?

moom frame is up https://youtu.be/zCHHsb9eMbk

>>24399552
about damn time

>>24399499
It counts as gold regardless if it is 'botted' anon. We already had Gura's streams in the tally before

>>24399552
Ina too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHK3l6j2ikM&ab_channel=NinomaeIna%27nisCh.hololive-EN

>>24399552
>144p Thumbnail
Well, at least there is, wonder if someone didn't wake up in time or if they all collectively had a brainfart as to what time they wanted this at.

>2M subs
>not a SINGLE holo streaming
>can't even get 10k watching
holy fuck...

>G-Gura botted too!
Pathetic

>>24399545
You forgot to disqualify HoloEN stream anon

>>24399684
Funny charts, what can I say

all these seethe
all because drunk stream with the boys can't even break 4k

I know it's ASMR but now Fauna's going to get hard fucked thanks to them being so damn late.

>>24399691
>ignoring Gura buffering as fuck and the culling
zhang stop being pathetic, a lot people here watch her streams,but of course you don't even the manwhore so what do I expect from bugs

>>24399681
Nobody likes Mori.

>>24399691
Open wide
here comes the mountains

>>24399652
Gura was the only one who listed a time for it, so that fuckup is on her.

Multiple frames for the overwatch collab. Rip numbers.

>>24399849
>Fauna's going to get hard fucked
yeah by me after she's finished streaming for you nerds

>>24398047
Maybe a month ago. Elden Ring has turned into a neutral/slight debuff game for the EN girls.

>>24399681
>>24399866
Go away >>24399409

https://youtu.be/_sQgb6_uVUM
Just saw this. Maybe is a bit much considering that it's OW2 but can Selen get 10k? Most of the line up streams on Twitch and the two Nijis there didn't put a pov

>>24399608
>It counts as gold regardless if it is 'botted' anon.
A fucking joke of a tally it is then

>>24399981
What two nijis? It's just Vox and Selen, no?
So Selen (4k) and vox (2k overwatch) with a healthy extra 2k in case Vox's fans want to redeem themselves after the last 2k= 6-8k

>>24399981
>selen debuff
>chi-chan debuff
ain't no fujos watching that shit. main office probably won't even viewfarm that shit

>>24400057
chiichan too (if she wakes up in time)

>>24394331
HoloENkeks?

>>24400159

>>24399443
nijisanji has far more members and the buff from being a member is low
even connected people like ririmu drop below 1k sometimes
some of smallest might even have been bigger if they were indies instead

>>24399980
Anon, you can dislike Mori and not be a bug. Just a deadbeat.

>>24400159
>Paralympics
KYS

>>24399984
Tally anon is most likely a chumbuds, it is what it is?

>>24399980
but the second anon is right

>Le gura is botting
its sad all zhangs can do is NO U. steal insults, steal accusations, steal steal steal

>>24399856
It didn't buffer anon, at least not for the entire duration of the stream

>>24399984
yes, the en tally is a joke, unironically. Its worthless.

The daily tally is a different question, and we've never had a clearly botted gold there. Once we do, then we can determine how it will be taken, but until then the problem can be ignored.

>>24400196
>>24400241
I know, the bug is just clearly samefagging

>>24400327
the funny thing is their bot claims has the same if not more substance than the NijiEN male bot claims lmao

>>24400327
That's just in the spirits of chinks
Steal-copy-sue
I don't know what to expect

>>24400336
just the middle. Hope youtube fix the saw someday

>>24400353
>bug
I don't know if feel insulted that this only happens whenever I post about Mori.

>>24400352
The daily tally includes botted stream anon, we had a gold stream with bot suspicions before

>>24400352
wasn't there a few niji 3d debut/live that got daily gold with worm graphs

>>24400577
yeah that one dude that got 68k and 2 minutes later dropped to 27k for fuckall reasons

>>24400352
>We won't do anything until it bites our ass.
Yeah, the same case with CCVID, cull doesn't exist till it affect the JP.

>>24400643
pls understand he was streaming his 3D from a cheap hotel too

>>24400706
yep, unless it happens to the actually important branch, it doesn't matter, cry about it

>>24400706
Don't blame us when you EN faggots are limp dicks that doesn't even bother to @TeamYoutube when your oshi' poll numbers are fucked

>>24400779
Pathetic

>>24400499
the daily tally has included botted streams, but nothing that has been largely agreed as botted has won gold. That's the line.

>>24400418
yes anon i'm a fellow holonigger but our livers are clearly botting just as hard

>>24400711
thats definetaly will go in the nijicope list: All NijiEN are streaming in hotels with cheap wifi since March, pls understand

>>24400839
subhuman

Oh hey, what do we have here?

>>24400858
>livers
Disgusting bug, go away >>24399409

>>24400896
bug

>>24400850
As long as it is recorded by any of the trusted tracking sites, it'll make the daily tally. The tally is summary of those, it doesn't make/decide whether a stream is 'botted' or not as it is not qualified to do so. And neither do you

>>24400938
yeah we know, chink are infecting some NijiJP but they don't like at all

>>24400850
4/30
>>23433161
this is graph of the gold stream

>>24401041
I'll give them the benefit of doubt since it's NijiJp
But the recent 3D graph makes me question it

who woke up the zhang early today?

>>24400850
5/6
>>23776902
graph of the gold stream

>>24401140
His 50 cents were in danger.

>>24401140
Because pathetic numbers without cheating.

>>24401140
They know the wonky shit on that NijiCN collab yesterday was egregious.

>>24400779
I don't see the point of larping like you're /hlg/ here, chief. EN branches are just as much a part of this thread discussion if not even more dominant. Stomping your feet about ENSHARTS LEAVE IRRELEVANT BRANCHES AAAH is a sign of mental illness. But then again ,that is the norm in /hlg/ about like half the holos, you fags always thought autistic fits work.

>>24401336
cool blogpost shart

>>24401336
I would tolerate HoloEN if they can get us decent numbers, or at least performs better than the opposing branch.
Of course seeing that they can't even contribute more than 2-3 slots in the tally while the other team's branch could get 3-4 slots isn't helping with that

>>24401777
Numbers are numbers nigger. While "EN GOLD" is a huge piece of shit that shouldn't have ever happened, discussing numbers in a fucking number thread is not out of place.

jwu, what's the numbers for today? did EN collab get numbers?

For better or worse, the samurai schizo seems to be finally gone.
Now >we only have to bear with one side shitting up the thread...

>>24401885
>reading comprehension

>>24402025
Anon, Gura is streaming for a few hours from now on, the thread is done until tomorrow

>>24401777
Typical /jp/ nigger, ignores any context whatsoever and pretends HoloEN loses to NijiEN on the regular or something. Maybe you could see how they usually perform by..hmm..wait a moment..the tally compilations that had them win each month until the fuckers literally moved in for 2 weeks to offpako. It's almost like lists of daily numbers are useful for measuring numbers. Or you could look at their averages. Or you could try to discern who wins between the two branches by looking at the main tally even.

numbers for this collab will be ugly, jesas...

>"maybe if they were better streamers or the others stopped doing content their viewers want to watch"
pathetic, can't believe we share the same brand name

>>24402195
Will they? Typical 10k max and 8k on another POV, I think. Mori's overlapping too and its OW 1 while literally everyone else is playing OW2. I really fucking wish Gura would retweet streams she's part of though, if you only follow Gura (like a fuckhuge part of the EN fanbase) she hasn't told you:
-when the stream is actually happening
-with who it is
-on what channel

>>24401006
You say that now, but that would functionally make your tallies worthless, and this thread moot. Lets have that discussion once it happens.

>/hlg/ would rather prop up NijiEN juts to shit on their own EN branch
why is /jp/ like this? And no don't give me that falseflag bullshit, I used to browse /hlg/ this is 1:1 what they sound like

>>24400711
Lmao

>>24402194
>>24394331
>NijiEN 4 slots
>HoloEN 1 slot
I've been monitoring these for the past few weeks and, yes HoloEN is lagging behind no matter how you slice it, you could remove the offpako streams and they lag behind

>g-guys Ina is only strong in her own timeslot because she's the only one there
>beats Mumei in her own timeslot
??
Maybe it's time we stopped downplaying Ina.

holobros?

>>24402471
I'm a numberfag first anon, I prefer the branch with better numbers

Let me remind them

>>24402471
let's see
>>>/jp/39840354
>>>/jp/39840359
>>>/jp/39840365
>>>/jp/39840367
well

>>24402673
A numbernigger

>>24402595
>started hear stream first
all the multi-pov watchers get counted toward her frame

>>24402665
People need to stop using holodex numbers, they're always wildly innacurate

>>24402402
We already had the discussion anon
You don't have to like the tally if you don't want to

>>24402697
Pointless to remind them, nijiniggers are making up new metrics to "win" by the thread. Like
>w-we have more people on the tally this week
Christ, these people actually think streamer popularity is determined by fucking /#/'s daily tallies.

>>24402697
>All of Luxiem on the top 50
the strongest wave
>Only 2 Myth there

>>24402804
See?
>>24402863
Number alchemy is the Niji specialty.

Can Ina get into the tally today?

>>24402963
probably.

>>24402963
30 minutes before Fauna also starts so who the fuck knows

>>24402963
Easily. HoloEN streams take 1 hour to reach the peak, she's almost at 9k 20 mins in. How are people browsing /#/ in NA hours and still look at their numbers 20 mins in like they mean anything?

>>24402804
>>24402863
>median peak ccv doesn't matter
>amount of 5 digits stream doesn't matter
Meds

I guess you holoEN tards prefer 'actual' metrics like view/time placements over abtrirary buckets
a.k.a the only metric other than inactive sub counts that HoloEN still have an advantage over

>>24402697
>mori went from a 10k median to not even appear on the top 50
rumao

>>24403224
What the fuck are you talking about? I literally replied to a post with median peak CCV and said nijiniggers will ignore how HoloEN is still leading them in it.