/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>24377025
Based frogs tackling the indog problem

>>24377025
It's the fucking french again.

>>24377237
Im surprised they didn’t hit gura first

>>24377303
Ascared of retaliation and having every member of their group very publically doxxed.
But these 'small' people won't have people digging for the dirt

>>24377303
The bigger the channel, the harder it is to get banned

>>24377025
Did she show profile pics in the video even after kobo got banned twice? Because if she did, she deserves it.

>>24377237
More like any vtuber. They just took down a nijiJP an hour ago.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8C1LLhBhf_E2IBPLSDJXlQ
https://twitter.com/sukosuko_sukoya/status/1526187464540377088

>>24377025
Is it only indog so far?

>>24377025
How do bots manage to ban people?? Even twitch has protections in place to keep streamers from being fucked over by dickheads in chat

>>24377025
based frogs

>>24377025
Just don't show PFPs on screen, it's that simple. Holos removed chat completely from their screens during the Taiwan debacle and you don't even need to do that much.

>>24377490
Some JP and SEAtubers also got hit. It is pretty bad that even Shigure Ui is getting cautious too.

>>24377357
>doxxed
Why do clowns write this? Do you think that you have to log in with your linkedin to join discord groups?
How are you gonna dox "masturbator455loli"?

I fucking hate the French

Chii knew it was coming so she moved to twitch

>>24377025
Im not familiar with creator stuff, but showing chat is turned on by default or what?

>>24377303
If it happens to gura it will only boost her because every vtubers on earth from 1views to corpos will talk about it

>>24377624
you really underestimate just how fucking bad at hiding information most people are

>>24377478
>they killed fucking Sukoya
This is war.

>chat on screen
>PFPs as well
Did she do it on purpose? Is this her idea of drumming up some controversy so she can get some fame out of this? Does Iofi not realize that she's part of a MCN and her actions affect the rest of Hololive? This is not a good look for her.

>>24377506
Because youtube completely automated the system of banning. So you can have a pornographic profile picture, and post in someone's chat where they are putting chat on screen resulting in your pornographic profile picture ending up on stream. That picture gets identified by youtube's automated system and gets the channel banned for porn. Also something about comments possibly being able to do it if they set off things but I'm unclear on if that actually does it.

>>24377572
You really think the youtube bot cares about those 5 pixels on the screen?

>>24377683
And 4chan finally gonna call them 3view.
Fucking epic, hope they nuke Mori.

>>24377736
Yes. You fucking worthless retard, yes.

>>24377025
EIFFEL SHALL FALL TOMORROW !!!
ALLAHUAKBAR !!!

>>24377736
So the algorithm will just ban any channel if it's reported? If that's the case why even bot the chat in the first place?

>>24377506
YT is basically "hit first, process manual appeal later". They don't have Twitch partner things and basically everyone is equal in the eye of YT except probably some on the very tippy-top.

In a way, this kind of thing do remove cronyism like what Twitch were doing with some of its biggest stars that are straight up flaunting copyright laws and rules knowing Twitch will never ban them permanently, but that means this kind of thing will happen.

Also in case you are wondering why they have not updated or disabled the AI, they probably will update it..... in few weeks or so. Change management is a thing especially for things that potentially affected millions of people and probably goes through code screenings and many others, and this probably do not qualify as Emergency Change. Their Customer Service will get swamped in the meanwhile though.

>>24377650
No, vtubers have to go out of their way to show it.

Honestly interested in how far they’ll go, if they get all of hololive out for a few days the uproar would be fucking entertaining

>>24377624
>>24377684
Just gonna drop this here
>>24338463

>>24377478
Pomu was right. It's All Out War!

>>24377736
That's the thing about bot. They might notice things that most people won't notice. This is also why "data poisoning" is also a thing where Machine Learning is being trained in wrong datasets to conclude wrong things based on its algos.

>>24377478
Good. Get the NijiJP fans in the game too. Make sure everyone know this is All-Out War

>>24377731
So literally anyone can go and do this rn?
Man youtube is fucked

Damn Zhang and their bot

>>24377927
It's unlikely that a single event will do it, because it's happening due to chats being spammed. So anyone with access to a sufficient amount of networking and computing power should be able to pull it off.

>>24377927
This is a loophole in the YT system. YT also had a problem with porno PfP/profile name and them using copy-pasted comments to get around the spam-blocking. They will take sometime to patch up since any major change will take time to approve and implemented.

In the meantime, expect more attacks and everyone probably need to rely on the manual appeal system instead

>>24377759
>>24377879
So the youtube AI is just gonna ignore all the chat mesages and profile pictures that it has live direct access to, but it will recognize them as porn from a handful pixels in the stream?
And if that's hidden, nobody is gonna mind? Just keep streaming with your chat full of CP, problem solved?

I don't understand why they're doing it for fun when they could make a lot of money by selling "ban livestreamer" as a service.

>>24377025
>eradicate
Like they aren't gonna cut a deal with Susan to get the algorithm off their talents' backs.
Dramafag more nigger

>>24378063
Unironically yes. This is how broken YouTube's system is. If they could ban the bots based on PFP detection, they would have. Instead they rely on reports which then triggers the bot to scan the actual content of the stream resulting in this shit. And by the way, of course they're working on fixing this, it just won't be solved for another few months at best.

>>24378063
What's hilarious is that it can pick up a few pixels of an image on a screen for half a second and flag it, but somehow can't detect the very same image at its original resolution when being uploaded as a PFP. Absolutely bewildering programming on YT's behalf.

>>24377478
>sukoya
why...

>>24378063
YT is probably scanning livestream directly for copyright infringement materials which is why some are being pretty careful to not sing Disney and triggers the ban. Its not that nobody don't mind but there are different system that monitors chat and comments, and the loophole is different.

Everyone here is just guessing what might happen and how to counter against it, only YT knows the full specifics

>>24378278
Could be that the AI only checks them if they get reported.
Do we have an actual source for this? As in, any channel that got hit by the attack but survived due to not showing chat on screen?

>>24378305
cuz she's one of the nicest Niji and unity tuber

>>24378689
>You can just upload CP to your PFP and nothing will happen unless someone notices
This honestly wouldn't surprise me. Fuck, by this logic you could just have unlisted content with CP or whatever and no one would know if it's not leaked to anyone who'd report it, that's insane.

>>24377025
Deserved for not being a good translator.

>>24377919
All we need is one HoloJP and one VSPO to get the JP schizo fight back.

They can just start a Twitch account. No biggie.

>>24378855
Years ago, before youtube even had livestreams I guess, /a/ had a s;g and haganai cosplay porn livestream using unlisted youtube videos. I saved one of the links to see how long it would last, and it lasted years, maybe it's still there.

>>24379618
This

>>24377713
I think you underestimate how tech-illiterate and careless most holos are. She probably set it up when she first started streaming and never changed it since.

I've seen a Russian channel with memberships enabled that have the more risque videos hidden behind the paywall. This channel literally just massages little girls and sells the videos and YouTube is fine with it. YouTube is too big to fail.

>>24377982
Reatard

>>24379770
So it's management's fault for not appropriately warning her and advising her to remove the on screen profiles?

At least Kobo's back.

>>24377478
I'm going to fucking nuke france now

Jesus fuck, what the fuck? I always thought French people were alright. They're just as bad as bugmen, this is unexpected.

>>24379921
Cope bong

I don't get why so many creators insist on using YT after years and years of constant incompetence and retardation

>>24377736
It's does go watch this to understand better because YouTube's content scanning AI is something you cannot mess around.
https://youtu.be/CtDk-MGHBvE

>>24380008
Sure YT is a dumpster fire, but you have to remember their competitor is even worse.
Just look at twitch ffs

>>24377822
Thanks anon

>>24380008
It's either Twitch or YouTube, so pick your poison.

people get mad at frogs but the group behind it is just doing their jobs.
They are paid to do it. Just like you can pay someone to kidnap social media accounts

>>24380233
A lotta loyalty for a hired gun

>>24380006
No no, don't get me wrong. I fucking hate chinks too, they took away one of my favourite chuubas. But it's just surprising because I thought France was a civilised country since they don't all live in shitholes.

>>24380233
Ok, so who's paying them? That's right, frogs.

>>24379868
Yes.

>>24380233
>They are paid to do it
I honestly doubt it, their targets are way too random and all over the place for that.

>>24380233
fucking nigger retard. you took the money you took the responsibility. fucking frogs should die in a fire along with their family. shittard decide to ruin someone's livelihood and had the gall to claim moral high ground. fucking shit eating retarded dumbfuck

>>24377478
Ok now I’m mad.

>>24379868
No, it's Youtube's fault for being an utterly dysfunctional piece of shit

>>24377478
>Sukoya.
>Kobo.
Ok, that's it. I'm committing an Islamic style an hero in the Youtube headquarters. Make those fucking bitches understand and fix their shit. If that doesn't work, then just follow the example of 1972 in Munich.

I wonder if these guys are French or """French"""

>>24377478
Now I'm actually fucking mad. Someone send more Africans to France.

>>24380121
>worse
you must be joking

>>24380233
LIterally "I was just following orders" excuses.

>>24380918
Do you mean (((French)))?

>>24377025
All people have to do is make their chat text-only, which most of them do anyway. Just fucking hide the chat period if you want to be safe.

This is a Darwinian selection problem, if you're completely fucking ignorant and haven't caught onto what's up after days worth of serious flashing lights, then the french faggots are gonna see you're vulnerable and try to fuck with you. I'm not saying they deserve it if it happens to more people, just that they could very easily have prevented it by paying even a little bit of attention to their surroundings/current meta.

>>24377478
Kiara was right
WAKE THE FUCK UP KFP, WE MUST TAKE OVER FRANCE

>>24380964
Nah the """French""" are those dirty dirty Quebecois bastards. Nobody likes them not even the French (because they're using """""Impure""""" French)

>>24380008
What's the alternative? Twitch is just as bad, if not worse, and every other video/stream hosting site has a fraction of the userbase.

Just when we started to lay low a fucking discord server decided we weren't hated enough
I'm fucking seething about my shitty countrymen

>>24381006
I can't believe some chickens took over France

>>24377357
Doxxing isn't a problem on its own, you need to get someone to go stab them for it to matter.
t.prefers using his real identity on the internet

Does Youtube not have a r9k mode? Twitch does.

>>24377624
You'd be surprised how many people reuse a screenname/an avatar/ post a site they use or used at one point that holds more information to link them together and next thing you know, you have a name, an employer, and address.
No one is perfect, most people do at best basic opsec and people who look for the information only need to find one mistake to start pulling threads.
Now you know retardchama.

>>24381192
YouTube is unable to detect something like "Sending the same message 10 times in less than 3 seconds" as spam.
What a joke.

>>24381050
They're more pure than whatever crossbred population lives in france right now kek

>>24381290
>They're more pure than whatever crossbred population lives in france right now kek
they crossbreed with chink instead, samething lmao

u rike?

>>24379618
My only pet peeve with Twitch is that they delete VODs in a month.

>>24377624
Read
>>/vt/thread/S5532771#p5537943

>>24380394
>France
>Not shitholes
Literally my worst europe experiences happened in France. Dont let the crackers fool you

>>24381006
>the German-Austrian invasion of France during WW2

>>24380394
>I thought France was a civilised country since they don't all live in shitholes
don’t tell anon about the modern state of Paris he doesn’t know

>>24380375
Bane?

>>24377822
We need to fight fire with fire. Zia, this is your chance to fix your reputation.
Mission: Infiltrate the frenchie schizos, and destroy them from within. Good luck.

What about creating an account like the ones from that group and false-flag a lot of popular youtube channels? When more mainstream channels start going down for this stupid bot, then maybe Youtube could roll back the change.
I mean, it's either fighting fire with fire or preparing for the mass VTuber migration to Twitch.

>>24377736
Deep learning AI was close to godly powers or magic from the outset. You will all learn too late.

>>24377025
KEEP MOVING FORWARD
UNTIL OUR ENEMIES
ARE ERADICATED FROM THIS WORLD
or at least 80%

>>24383050
This is honestly a solid plan. You don't need a hundred of bots. Just 2 or 3 accounts with the same PFP and you're set.

Browse the news channels on youtube and spam as many as you can.

>>24377025
>>24377478
maybe those muslim beheaders where into something

Of all chuubas, why Kiki? You absolute monsters.

>>24384116
774 is doing it again!

>Sony buys Prism
>one Prism girl gets botted
>various vtuber channels attacked
Really activates your almonds

>>24381354
nice cope, all bugmen live on the opposite coast to where quebec is

>>24384400
...Sony is attacking themselves?

>>24384587
Force of habit

>>24377866
Pomu is never wrong.

>>24380233
They're trolls, not some super hacker group.
It's literally retarded anons from JV. Why the fuck would anyone outside of French NEETs even know what that is.
You think some seanig or zhang or whoever, somehow knew about that random site, and actually went there to make a post trying to hire people? It's like you trying to hire anons from 4chan. Just think about how much ESLs are made fun of here. The French are 10x worse. They're not going to listen to some non-french third world monkey and do their bidding.

>>24377478
Killing Sukoya
Putin needs to nuke France

>>24377025
Never too late to take the Twitch pill, or will you keep crying into Susan's dusty pussy AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SUSAN-SAMA PLEASE UNBAN MY OSHIIIII

>>24377025
Imagine if they just moved to Twitch

>>24377478
I didn't even finish watching the VOD for her Baba is You stream yet...

>>24389659
I'm currently crying into Twitch's transpussy wound for them to unban be

>>24389659
Dude we both know the bitrate sucks for Twitch. The only reason I use Twitch is to watch forsen, xQcOW, and my indie oshi.
At least for YouTube you can still keep the VOD.

>>24389989
Why would anyone watch xQc unless they are a normie?

>>24377303
You didn't see the porn pop up in one of Gura's minecraft channel. She took care of it immediately by putting sub only on. Though, unfortunately, it seems even if she took care of it, they still took away the ad for that stream.

>>24390136
For me xQc and forsen are a great contrast to the chaos in my life. I know they’re not going to change and that’s why I like them.
I don’t have to worry about them leaving and not streaming again.
I also don’t have any IRL friends cause I spend a lot of time taking care of my parents and little sisters.

>>24389659
if Twitch fixes everything wrong with it, sure. but otherwise youtube is still better

>>24377478
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8C1LLhBhf_E2IBPLSDJXlQ
YOOO WTF
I love the design of this one, can't believe they took her down.
I hope these cunts rot in hell

>>24377025
Maybe this is why so many JP chose to vacation now.
In hopes it'll get fixed before they get back.

Someone bring me up to speed on how the french are to blame for this

>>24390815
it was a hacker known as JVC

>>24390287
Hope you're doing well, anon.

>>24377303
They are hitting her, but she has a bigger channel so YouTube is less likely to auto ban her. But she is losing ad revenue.

>>24377025
youtube is so retarded that they ban you for the actions of your chat.

>>24392063
Twitch does it too except it isn't automated. If some guy types "nigger" in your chat and you don't ban the user and someone reports you, you get banned.

>Frogs
I blame Deat for this

So should everyone adopt Korone's style?
Only show like one comment at a time in the corner where you can't see PFP?

>the French
I was a way for a week on business, what's the qrd on this?

>>24392063
>actions of your chat
It's the STREAMER actions. Going out of the way to put PFP in the video is a choice of the streamer. Otherwise you can't ban anyone anymore because every streamer will claim everything is others fault.

>>24390815
Retards left just enough clues to indict themselves. They might even have done it deliberately for the attention. They could be reading this thread right now, masturbating furiously whilst they read this thread.

>>24392631
Yes

>>24393018
Because prior to this it wasn't a problem?

>>24393018
it's wild how youtube can detect it realtime on livestream video, but the picture itself been sitting on their server unnoticed way before that; and the account itself hasn't been banned, has it?

>>24377025
>ID chuuba.
Are they using bots? You got only terminated if they found some anomalies.

>>24393534
Showing sex images has ALWAYS been a problem. If you accidentally show porn because you allowed PFP in your screen or if you search google images with a harmless word and end up showing porn doesn't matter, it's your fault. If they start accepting this as an excuse, next day everyone will say they accidentally clicked porn and they won't be able to do anything.

>>24393725
Google account server and porn detector server should be different.

These bots aren't trying to take down channels. They're just made for dumb horny people to go follow to their links. It's like the try not to cum game ads at the top of pornhub. Fuckin sucks that these channels get taken down because of them.

>>24377478
Ultimate Jihad it is

>>24394068
>>24393963
Don't post retarded shit when we already know it was an organized attack from some stupid discord full of underages.

Do your archive reps

>>24394068
different bot; the bot attacking vtubers are reporting bot, and the account with porn pfp they use as ground for reporting refer to themselves as youtube slayer on chat

>>24383050
Not a bad idea, how would one go about doing this? Just set up burner accounts?

how many people are affected?

https://youtu.be/OmtjBPh14m0

>>24392642
>>24390815
The spam bots basically spammed with french comments. People also found a few french discord members that followed the spam accounts with the spam accounts following them back, sharing the exact same unique names and profile pictures. Some french anons also recognized the account names being a mixture of niche memes from JV, basically the french equivalent of 4chan.

>>24377025
>ID's taken down.
Rad

>>24377624
It is actually easy to dox almost anyone based on a screen name. There have been tons of database hacks/leaks over the years so you can look for the same screen name in the leaks and figure out someone's credit card, email, ip, phone number, etc.

>>24394441
a random assortment, nijis, holos, random 2views, even clippers

>>24380008
Twitch takes 50% of your income while Youtube only takes 30%.

>>24377237
>>24377260
>pimply ass vox fem neets trying to deflect
We know it's you.

>>24377025
How many people are still banned?

Why are we blaming frogs on this one? Are the perpetrators french?

If youtube has that good of a bot for videos, why the hell can't they ban people for trying to set a porn pic as their avatar instead? Or at least not let them set a porn pic instead of banning.

>>24400220
I'm a retard and didn't read the thread. I see now.

So they are just targeting channels with slower chats? I've never seen the spam myself, so I don't know how it looks.

>>24400229
Yeah I would think this is an obvious fix. They can just turn the bot watching channels to watch profile pic submissions. Also I think they should change their policy of holding streamers responsible for their chat. Hold the people in chat responsible for their own actions.

>>24394403
Yeah, I guess. Set up burner accounts and just start spamming big accounts like news channels or big youtubers with the same messages and PFPs that these guys sent and get them banned, in the hope that these forces Youtube to take action.
Let's be honest, the entire VTuber industry, from Hololive's Gura to the smallest corpo and 2view, could be nuked by these bots and Youtube wouldn't give a shit about them. So, as I said, it's either fighting fire with fire, or getting ready for the massive VTubers exodus to Twitch when your oshi inevitably gets her account banned.

wtf is Susan doing? Get off your lazy ass and fix Youtube's shitty algorithms

>>24400645
Why the fuck does Youtube expect a streamer to be responsible for a public chat that could have hundreds to thousands of users in it at once?
Can a streamer put up a disclaimer saying that opinions/words expressed in chat are the responsibility of the person who wrote it, kind of like how 4chinz says our comments are owned by us?

>>24405529
i think the problem was the chat showing up on the stream.