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I feel sorry for her, Cover should fire Redjuice and find a new illustrator

>> No.24303154
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Lololol Selen also don't have new outfit after 300 days

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>>24303076

>> No.24304204

>>24303076
Isnt she supposed to be in a different branch in Hololive so thats why they cant give her a new costume with the other generations? AZKI never got that many new costumes

>> No.24304259

>>24303076
Da fuk is this clickbaity image?
Also where is the link?

>> No.24304289

>>24303076
GOd fucking dammit I hate clickbaiting clippers, she didn't even teared up

>> No.24304297

>>24303076
looks like she has a different contract with the usual gen like myth or council

>> No.24304352

>>24303076
>= = = = =
>= = =

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auxs7PgQeaA

>= = =
>= = = = =

>> No.24304355

>>24304204
Nope, unlike azki, who was initially only part of INNK and then moved to hololive, Irys was part of hololive since the beginning. Only that with a different position, since rather than being a vtuber she's supposed to be a Vsinger.

>> No.24304405

>>24303076
Stop crying, bitch. You're lucky that Cover picked up your sorry ass.

>> No.24304408

>>24303076
>Clipfag
Neck yourself

>> No.24304413

>>24303076
Another menhera breakdown? What is wrong with this woman

>> No.24304415

>>24303076
companies sucks for that, if she was an indie she would have gotten like 100 outfits if she wanted, and the rigging+redjuice artstyle sucks for vtubing

>> No.24304417

>>24304405
>160M

>> No.24304430

>>24304405
>They could have had Lyrica and her friend
>Opted for this retard
I feel this was a troon call, since Yagoo wouldn't have passed on such a star pick

>> No.24304432
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>>24303154
They’re having a hard time making one that would fit

>> No.24304462

>>24304417
can you not talk about my dick right now?

>> No.24304470

>>24304462
>160Mm

>> No.24304505

>>24304432
marine laughing webm

>> No.24304511

>>24304470
>160Nm

>> No.24304531

>>24304432
If they can make outfits for Polka and Ollie, they can fit Selen

>> No.24304537

>>24304430
die seanigger

>> No.24304542

>>24304417
Literally YouTube glitch

>> No.24304547

>>24303076
Awww, if only if you weren't so ugly and boring, I might care

>> No.24304555

>>24303076
Did she cry on stream again?

>> No.24304572

>>24303076
I feel sorry for her too, imagine getting stuck with that model.

>> No.24304586
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24304586

>>24304572
I like it

>> No.24304594

>>24303076
Man we didn't get the reason for there not being an outfit and she wasn't even particularly sad. This clickbait is getting out of hand.

>> No.24304606

>>24304413
Your being baited by the clipper. She didn't cry at all

>> No.24304635

>>24304417
Bitch having a depression or some shit when she should be licking Yagoo's boots for picking her over hundreds of girls. She should suck dick to the man who fucking drew that model as there were fucking dozens of women that would fucking kick her do death for that spot

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>>24304586

>> No.24304690

>>24304594
What do you mean, of course she started bawling and mumbling "M-M-My outfit...". What do you take these clippers for, liars?

>> No.24304709

>>24304606
Did she have a breakdown earlier this month though? I don't watch clipshit, but i saw it constantly pop up

>> No.24304738

>>24304635
>She should suck dick to the man
she alrd did anon...

>> No.24304775

>>24304432
you catalog posters can be funny sometimes

>> No.24304936

>>24304417
>People were so retarded they though my cover of a popular song was the official version because I just used the actual anime OP as the MV

>> No.24305039

>>24303076
Do it like Hachaama, find a new parent, and new personality

>> No.24305074

>>24304430
Literally who?

>> No.24305113

>>24304204
Red bean only became offical holo recently. Sora's cum pet won't be treated badly from now on

>> No.24305208

>>24303076
Imagine how stinky her only outfit must be by now.

>> No.24305255

>>24305113
It’s not like she was treated badly to begin with, multiple unique outfits and even got her own special colour for the matching idol outfits.

>> No.24305272

>>24305208
I want that smell

>> No.24305572

In contrast. How many days passed between Pekora's outfits?

Factor out her gag prison outfit.

>> No.24305661

>>24303154
She better pay up then!

>> No.24305680

>>24304289
Better than a cropped hentai image.

>> No.24305762

>>24305208
I want to sniff her tutu

>> No.24305798

>>24305572
Anon, everyone gets new years outfits, regardless how new they are.

>> No.24305915

My hatred for Cover’s handling of IRyS burns eternal.

>> No.24306054

>>24305208
https://nypost.com/2022/03/29/procter-gamble-retracts-advert-claiming-that-women-smell-worse-than-men/

>> No.24306888

>>24303195
loos like uoh face

>> No.24306939

>>24304470
>megameter

>> No.24306993

Is about money... Project hope is a Mess

>> No.24307070

>>24303076
Not owning her looks in black corpo, but get paid enough.
Cry about it.
Da heck, gimme puppeteer role then.

>> No.24308969

>>24305572
Pekora still got her new years kimono outfit, Irys didn't get one yet when every EN received theirs.

>> No.24309046

>>24305798
miko...

>> No.24309119

>>24309046
Miko technically got a new outfit on her first remodel, its really weird how Cover still uses her original outfit when the likes of Sora, Azki, Nene and Flare use their redesigned ones.

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>>24303076
>checks
This sound like nene's situation.
I think it take time to copyright the new original design for irys.

>> No.24309243

>>24309119
that's because Original Miko isn't trash

>> No.24309261

>>24303076
stop bitching miko is already 4 years in hololive and she only has one new outfit

>> No.24309416

>>24309261
Irystocrasts will never stop complaining about how they're being slighted by everyone. The snowflakes of Hololive.

>> No.24309563

>>24306054
Yum

>> No.24309749

>>24303076
I feel sorry for your parents.

>> No.24309814
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>>24303076
Imagine the smell of the clothes after wearing the same thing for 300 days.

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>>24303076
You jinxed every fucking time kek

>> No.24310024

>>24303076
This is all karma for everyone who laughed at or dismissed Kiara when she was in distress over how awfully Cover treated her while making and releasing Sparks.

>> No.24310220

>>24310024
I don’t see what that has to do with IRyS, unless you are insinuating she did that.

>> No.24310328

Next year doesn't really work as an answer though. Council are 100% getting summer outfits. What are they gonna do then? Council considers IRyS one of their own. If she gets left out again shits going to get really awkward for a lot of people really soon.

>> No.24310499

>>24309119
Nene and Flare's redesigns are their new defaults, the originals are retired and will never be used again.

>> No.24310621

>>24310499
Ok but Azki has also shown she can still revert to her old models at a whim, so why does Cover use her latest model for their ads whilst Miko's still her outdated model?

>> No.24310623

>>24303076
fire those flaming her design before

>> No.24310702

I hate Redjuice so much it is unreal.

>> No.24311303

>>24310220
Nah I'm not really being serious, although I do actually find the similarities between their situations amusing in an ironic kind of way.

>> No.24311470

>>24305572
Feb 28th 2020 for the mention of an outfit, had to wait until the 19th of December 2021 to see it. Some people here are whining about absolutely nothing. Mel and Choco-sensei got it even worse than Irys as well.
Can't ask too much about EOPs anyway.

>> No.24311958

>>24310024
Ignoring the fact that that had nothing to do with IRyS herself, Cover absolutely DID fuck Kiara over when it came to Sparks and her birthday. There's 300+ days that DON'T have a holo's birthday, but no, they decide that, after taking Kiara's money so she can release Sparks, they'll completely shit all over it by releasing an 8 hour countdown on the same fucking day 20 minutes before her birthday celebration, drawing attention away from her and her song.

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>> No.24313618

Has an actual artist change ever happened? As in, the papa/mama model illustrator got switched out for a new one, for whatever reason (doesn't even have to be "bad" reasons, maybe they were just too busy etc), and a new illustrator took over and gave the chuuba a redesign ?

in Hololive several talents got minor redesigns to their base model (for example Nene's / Flare's de-chinkening / de-lizarding) but I guess those were done by the same illustrator.
The only instance I can think of, and even that is a somewhat special edge case, is Suisei who made her original avatar herself, and later got a professional model by an actual illustrator when she signed on with Hololive proper

>> No.24313889

>>24303076
Stupid menhera

>> No.24314285

>>24313618
Miko and Suisei.

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>>24313618
Suisei's latest outfit was made by one of her artist friends. Outside Hololive, Manami Aizono got a completely different design from Guchico. Maybe Guchico can save IRyS even though Cover failed to save his other holodaughter

>> No.24314442

>>24313618
Azki, but that was because the artist graduated from life.

>> No.24314723

>>24303154
They have special software for face tracking Selen via satellite. The rigging is a notch harder than usual.

>> No.24314747

>>24313618
Wasn't one of Okayu's outfits done by a different artist? Also Miko's original papa abandoned her

>> No.24314810

>>24304297
Hope she renegotiates it.

>> No.24314867

>>24304635
Did your mother abandon you?

>> No.24314929

>>24311958
ENs fans are spoiled because Myth got a shitload of outfits. Having 3 alts in a little over a year is crazy

>> No.24315237

>>24314302
Suisei technically twice considering her original was designed by herself.

>> No.24315293

At this point. IRyS 3D takes priority over any new outfit.

>> No.24315329

I feel sorry for me
FOR ME
I want an easy life too

>> No.24315355

That’s what happens when you’re ugly as sin.

>> No.24315737

Would IRyS oppose a complete overhaul and just pretend the last year never happened?

>> No.24316534

>>24303076
>>24304352
Fucking clipniggers. Bet Rizu is really proud of the image and title.

>> No.24316554

>>24315737
I think this is the best bet. A total redraw make her look like an actual anime girl.

>> No.24316566

>>24304635
Imagine sucking hackjuice's dick for giving you such abomination roru, even if you are a clipnigger you should be able to see the very obvious filter she uses to make herself look less ugly.

>> No.24316648

>>24316566
Redjuice isn’t a hack, his shit just needs to be adapted better for this shit. If she just looked like she was ripped out of Guilty Crown she’d be fine.

>> No.24317985

>>24303076
After the Sora birthday live, Redjuice better not go out alone at midnight.

>> No.24318122

>>24315293
Not if they want to change her base outfit/model to look better, that will push the 3D debut for a later date as well just like the case with Nene.

>> No.24318212

>>24314747
>Miko's original papa abandoned her
Is it Tanaka Yuuichi? Why abandoned her?

>> No.24318289

>>24318212
She was a 2view chuuba back then

>> No.24318458

>>24304430
Good thing too. I honestly worry that cover would have told them to tone down their interactions a lot more than what we get in niji. Plus the friend group they have in niji makes it so much better as well.

>> No.24318701

>>24315737
There's no payoff commiting to sunk costs, Cover should pay Redjuice some hush money so he doesn't tell artists to avoid them and then hire someone else for IRyS.

>> No.24318703

>>24305572
Why would I ever factor out one of the hottest outfits any holo has?

>> No.24319003

>>24305255
she was in a weird legal situation afaik as a joint project between Cover and Activ8 co-owned by both until recently.

>> No.24319073

>>24312143
She fuckin dies

>> No.24319086
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>>24303076
They are giving her a redesign thankfully, she deserves so much better
The disgusting forced positivity cope in the video comments of >>24304352 is exactly why her growth stagnated, her design is dog and redjuice needs to be lynched for being so low effort

Look at this shit, it was barely ever talked about but redjuice completely missed IRyS' birthday by 2 weeks because of how little fucks he gives about her.
Compared to other proud artists whose vtuber daughter takes up maybe 90% of their social media posts, redjuices twitter is maybe 5% IRyS
He needs to be dumpstered and blacklisted from the vtuber industry asap

>> No.24319096

>>24304430
why would you need some cringy whore?

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>>24304432

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>>24304511
>160J

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>>24319086
jesas.. this is embarrassing, no wonder she started drinking

>> No.24319323

>>24319086
Is the redesign 100% confirmed?

>> No.24319376

>>24319086
>redjuice completely missed IRyS' birthday by 2 weeks because of how little fucks he gives about her.
I'm still salty about this until today

>> No.24319441

>>24319323
Asking the same question. Also sauce.

>> No.24319529

>>24303076
She's so depressed that she's moving scheduled collabs....

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>>24319086
>actual deadbeat vtuber papa
The absolute state of IRyStokeks

>> No.24319561

>>24319086
What a piece of shit.

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>>24319376
"Until today" or "to this day"?

>> No.24319687

>>24319323
>>24319441
They don't like publicly talking about this stuff because there is legal IP issues with the original model(it's not the same with new outfits), Nene wasn't allowed to talk about her redesign up until she could officially put the debut of it on her schedule

>> No.24319922

>>24319687
So, unless you're an insider, no source?

>> No.24320009

>>24319652
He's made peace anon. Don't reopen these closed wounds.

>> No.24320047

>>24303076
>It's nobody's fault
Yes it fucking is. Be mad, IRyS. You cuck.

>> No.24320210

>>24320047
There is only one Kiara in Hololive.

Now kneel.

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>>24319086
>They are giving her a redesign thankfully, she deserves so much better
I blame Cover for commissioning redjuice, because they should've been fully aware of his artwork which simply doesn't work as a vtuber model.
Missing a birthday is a dick move though

>> No.24320446

>>24319922
He made it up

>> No.24320688

>>24320291
Late by two weeks....
Made me speculate that Redjuice initially wasn't intended to draw IRyS birthday art, he were actually pressured by the community to do it.

This makes senses why Redjuice were late by such a long time.

>> No.24320872

>>24304405
any vtuber company would kill to have her and you're delusional to think otherwise

>> No.24320924

>>24320872
This.

>> No.24320945

>>24320872
Not Cover, given that they're fucking her over like this.

>> No.24320990

>>24320945
Fans are overexaggerating. An outfit isn't a big deal

>> No.24321018

>>24320990
It's the outfit and everything else.

>> No.24321088

>>24320990
Bruh, They did her dirty. They gave her the ugliest model, and made her debut without genmates.

>> No.24321091

>>24320990
the outfit alone isnt a big deal, just like a single mori yab is not a big deal. when it happens over and over though and cover has repeatedly just fucked her over ever so slightly so many times that it does become a big deal

>> No.24321143

>>24320990
It seemed like Cover treated IRyS like shit.

>> No.24321180
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>>24321088
I like the model though. At worst it's neutral but plenty of holos have mediocre models. They also include her with Council in pretty much everything now so the solo debut is irrelevant.

>> No.24321185

>>24321091
Reductio ad Morium

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Good thing Irys is still making an album but her stuff keeps getting monged by this bitch. At this point Project Hope is just a money sink. Lucky for Irys, she's able to gain attention for that Baerys shit.

>> No.24321221

>>24319086
Imagine getting hired to design a character for a corp. Nothing unusual but they want to rig the design and make it move so you have to do some extra work. You do just that and after some feedback and tweaks your job is done. You don't know much about this whole Vtuber thing, but it's still some of your better works you think.
Like with all your characters, you create some artworks of her on your social media from time to time but nothing big because you're busy earning. Even top illustrators aren't swimming in money after all. One day people start bothering you on Twitter about some birthday you forgot.
You get back in touch with Cover and they confirm Vtuber birthdays are a way to boost merch sales and it's profitable for you throw her fans a bone. So their debut isn't a Vtuber birthday, instead it's treated like anime characters with birthdays, huh?
Knowing it's not her actual birthday nor anniversary, you still create an illustration because it can't hurt and you quite like her design anyway. Now you know better and mark her birthday for next year in your calendar. But you have little time to think about all of this for long, because you're already balls deep into your next job.

>> No.24321257

>>24321091
>just like a single mori yab is not a big deal
Mori yab is usually a big one. Also very difficult to whiteknight this level of yab.

>> No.24321308

The art style of huke (who designed Kiara) was also very unsuitable for a Vtuber.
However, he made an effort to make his art style more Vtuber friendly.

Why did redjuice fail in its efforts?

>> No.24321381

>>24319922
>>24320446
It's following the exact same MO that happened with nene/flare.
Would you two rather redjuice be a lazy faggot, or cover corp having litigation issues with changing the IP with the law offices?
Pick your reason why she doesn't have a new outfit.
Because the one that makes more sense is that she is getting a redesign, so it's redundant to make a new outfit despite all the girls that came out a month after her getting them.

>> No.24321408

>>24321180
>plenty of holos have mediocre models
Sadly this. But IRyS has ton of potential, Cover can leave other holos for later, giving IRyS a helping hand would be beneficiary to company.

>> No.24321447

>>24321408
She's average and doesn't deserve anything more than the others

>> No.24321466

>>24320990
bruh, the outfit is the immediate catch people get when interacting with the vtuber. Their voices and personality come after. And don't deny it bc it's true.

>> No.24321509

>>24321466
Her base outfit looks good

>> No.24321572

>>24320990
Bro, I'm a paying member, shut the fuck up, you aren't helping her by coping
Doesn't mean I'm going to sperg out on twitter, but they have been treating her like dog water and any self-respecting IRyStocrat wouldn't be taking this disrespect lightly

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>>24321308
Huke's design was shit, Black Rock Shooter was so cool, compared to her model which is so loud, incoherent and generally looks uncomfortable to wear.

Kiara made the best of what she's dealt with and came out on the other end better for it I think.

>> No.24321687

>>24321308
Merc mindset, shit out a design and forget about it forever. Except being the official artist for a vtuber is not a one-and-done deal but I guess he didn't know that (or anything about vtubers in general).

>> No.24321688

>>24321593
Her ball gown is so much better than whatever the fuck huke was smoking

>> No.24321692

>>24321572
They obviously wanted to give her an outfit at the same time as Council but something wrong happened. That's not disrespect. Stop throwing a tantrum. Also
>paying member
roru

>> No.24321736

>>24321572
This.

>> No.24321756

>>24319687
If Council gets their second (casual) outfits before IRyS does, I'd consider it a sign of redesign.

>> No.24321794

>>24321692
Look at this shit, >>24319086
Redjuice obviously doesn't care about supporting her, this is a major fucking issue, not many artists in hololive practically abandon their children at this stage, especially with the amount of money he was being paid

>> No.24321857

>>24321180
>At worst it's neutral
No.

>> No.24321864

>>24321794
How much money is he being paid?
He retweets her streams frequently, I don't know what people are expecting more

>> No.24322085

>>24321756
I can't recall any newer gen Holos with redesign. Also, what would Cover tell the fans?
IRyS original design is... well you know... yea
So we have a redesign, please understand.

(But if it is a chink issue or outdated design/model, fans would understand)

>> No.24322147

>>24318703
Because Pekora paid and commissioned that outfit out of her own pocket.

>> No.24322192

>>24321864
Redjuice's attitude towards IRyS is below standards, otherwise you couldn't justify why so many people is mad.

>> No.24322245

>>24322192
They like to blame IRyS' lack of success on external factors, that's why

>> No.24322373

Redjuice will not be canned. One talent out of 50+ isn't worth pissing off the art community. Any potential redesign will be from him.

>> No.24322443

>>24320990
>contract an artist who's not interested in committing to the character long term and whose style has no synergy with the rest of holodesigns
>debut IRyS as vsinger but never give her a 3D model so she can't do 3D lives or concerts
>and as vsinger IRyS has no genmates to provide visibility or exposure
>debut her right before Still Still Stellar releases, which buries IRyS' debut singles
>time her first EP to release at the same time as Towa's, which buries it because Towa's songs are straight up better
>original music's english lyrics are written by nips who don't understand how native speakers stress syllables
>no one to teach IRyS how to promote her music as a streamer, no manager presence in general

>> No.24322478

>>24321221
Artists and riggers are different people. So it was more like
>Cover asks redjews to design their new chuuba
>redjews hands rariemonn (the rigger) a sack of crap
>rariemonn does the best they can with what they have

>> No.24322522

>>24321864
Estimates are $5000+ initially, we don't know the full contract terms with merchandise
>He retweets her streams frequently
How about you go look at another artists twitter and compare it.
https://twitter.com/hukeweb
Look at the time between days, now compare it to redjuice
https://twitter.com/shiru
>huke retweets every single stream from both kiara's channel and any collab she is doing
>redjuice only promotes a stream maybe once every 2 weeks, never advertises her collabs on other channels despite that being a big part of her content

Huke is constantly in kiara's chat, I have NEVER seen redjuice in IRyS' chat
Huke is what actually love from an artist looks like, he still focuses on his other properties, but he takes pride in Kiara and her growth, redjuice considered IRyS to be a corporate paycheck and that's all

>> No.24322523

>>24322443
>no one to teach IRyS how to promote her music as a streamer
Jesas you must really think she's useless

>> No.24322563

>>24322245
I don't recall many fans of other unsuccessful Holos complaint a lot of about papa artist, while Redjuice is being criticized badly.

>> No.24322696

>>24322563
His art style is an easy attack vector since it's unique and stands out

>> No.24322722

>>24321593
>looks uncomfortable to wear
Maybe she should take it off then.

>> No.24322763

>>24322523
Most singers have zero ability to promote themselves, name one popular singer who self-promoted themselves while under contract.

Michael Jackson doesn't count, he self-promoted after he went off on his own.

The reality is that if you have no producer that is constantly lining you up opportunities, your voice won't reach anyone because you are restricted by corporate practices.
IRyS has to do everything by the book when it comes to JP law, but she gets almost no support to properly market her songs, no concerts.
Shit like this is exactly why mori went with UMG, so she can actually get marketed outside the vtuber bubble.

>> No.24322773

>>24322443
>no one to teach IRyS how to promote her music as a streamer, no manager presence in general
While this might be true, promoting IRyS music is kinda futile, if the lyrics and production issue aren't fixed.If IRyS can release "Ghost" tier song, the internet will promote the song itself.

>> No.24322850

>>24322522
This.

>> No.24322852

>>24321221
Artists get residuals from merch, that's part of their contract.
redjuice is just a shit

>> No.24323083

>>24321221
no excuses, he should be tweeting about her non-stop like every other holomana. dumb illustrator should be worshiping the ground she walks on and be thankful that Cover gave them the chance to work for them.

>> No.24323093
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24323093

Kiara loves redjuice, I don't understand all the hate.

>> No.24323126

>>24322763
She'll get 3D eventually, she can work inside the Hololive box in the meantime like everyone else. She got to sing in front of 58k people today

>> No.24323153

>>24319086
Just because he designed the character doesn't mean he has to love the personality/streamer no? Am I missing something here?

>> No.24323202

>>24323093
Kiara loves everyone.

>> No.24323205

>>24323093
It's the ugly faces.

>> No.24323210

>>24319086
Her growth stagnated because she takes long breaks and doesn't do much in terms of interesting streams

>> No.24323257

>>24323205
Shit looks like AI anime art.

>> No.24323388

>>24322522
>$5000
That's only a couple streams worth of superchats

>> No.24323395

>>24323153
This. Redjuice loves the IRyS design that he made but he probably finds IRyS the person unattractive at best. Men are simple creatures.

>> No.24323400

>>24323083
Imagine everyone behave with similar fashion in cinema, then someone decided to be different with everyone and started to act real loud.

>Standards and obligations.

If you can't afford to act like everyone else in the cinema, don't bother to go in. You will cause everyone trouble. Also prepared to get smacked.

>> No.24323445

>>24323093
>last year
Yeah, I liked his art too, before I found out he was a lazy faggot that was spiting IRyS

>> No.24323504

>>24323388
That's why I said merch residuals, it's possible there might be superchat %'s as well since it goes through cover first, then through japanese taxes.
My guess is probably yes.

>> No.24323539

She's an ugly, untalented goblin. Her current rags suit her fine.

>> No.24323575

>>24323210
She doesn't take long breaks, she is always doing collabs on other girls channels.
I will agree with the lack of interesting streams, but this is why she is a VSinger, her job was to be promoted by hololive as a singer, not to be abandoned by both her artist and her EN producers

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24323673

>>24323153
>>24323395
>>24323539
These are the kinds of people who say it's not a big deal for redjuice to only view IRyS as a lazy paycheck.

>> No.24323689

>>24323575
Turns out doing a full week of collabs while never streaming on your channel isn't good for growth

>> No.24323695

>>24323575
HoloEN management is shit in general, doesn't seem like there's anyone in charge.

>> No.24323782

>>24311958
>Cover absolutely DID fuck Kiara over when it came to Sparks
What happened?

>> No.24323819

Vtubing is already niche as is, I have no idea why you'd further minimise your chances of growth and exposure by giving the OK to such a weird looking design. I'm somewhat used to it by now, but really? Try showing that to the vast majority of people who aren't going to be nice as to not offend and you'll get the truth. Shit's weird, I feel sorry for her, she deserves a better model.

>> No.24323979

>>24323782
Kiara implied in a members only that Cover fucked up the business relationship with Kira due to management interventions (he's a western producer). Another part was Kiara being pissed that they're putting up roadblocks on a project she's fully funding herself.
On top of that they did the 8 hour countdown s tream for IRyS during Kiara's birthday stream (before Sparks released).

>> No.24324027

>>24323673
Then can you explain yourself? Because I really don't get it. I do not see the connection between designing a vtuber model and loving the streamer behind it. He doesn't owe Irys anything, he was hired to make a model, and he did. If he is the one at fault for Irys still not getting her new outfit, then yeah that is on him, but other than that I don't see a problem with his behaviour.

>> No.24324057
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24324057

Funny hypothetical haha, how would one go about hiring lets say, some young yakuza wannabe in nipland to go rough someone up?

Purely hypothetical of course haha

>> No.24324062

>>24324027
He retweets and works on FGO stuff in addition to hololive stuff, that's obviously unacceptable

>> No.24324132

>>24324027
He continues to make money off her success through residuals and percentages without putting in any more work
redjuice is a lazy, good for nothing leech

>> No.24324164

>>24323575
She's had almost 3 weeks off in the last 5 weeks.

>> No.24324169

>>24324057
My water shaman daughterwaifu is very beautiful today.

>> No.24324185

>>24324062
So does Kronii's illustrator, still managed to give her a new year's outfit and is constantly supportive on twitter

>> No.24324217

>>24324027
I think it's actually Cover's fault, Redjuice probably had no idea that being an official artist for a vtuber is a more involved gig.

>> No.24324242

>>24322373
>pissing off the art community
I'm almost certain most of them would rather be a Holomama than stand with the "community".

>> No.24324269

>>24324132
But that's how the contract is? Are you mad that he is getting paid by the terms that Cover gave the man?

>> No.24324286

>>24324164
Notice she's been drinking a lot as well?
Everyone is blaming mori, which is probably partly true, but having your artist and company abandon you in isolation away from family would do that to anyone

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24324326

>>24305572
pekora's original design is iconic and still one of the best that hololive has, and it fits her perfectly
you can't say the same about irys, which is why she desperately needs a new one

>> No.24324354

>>24324185
Too bad Kronii hates her design despite how supportive her art mama is.

>> No.24324365

>>24324269
Your right, cover screwed themselves over thinking that everyone would basically become a second or third father to the talent they designed

>> No.24324374

>>24324326
Even that image is way more beautiful than what scamjuice ever attempt

>> No.24324383

>>24324269
I am mad that he is a lazy piece of shit, what don't you get?
Cover has done this before, they hired a lazy shit for some hololive manga and he made a big stink until cover had to eventually drop him from contract for being a lazy shit
I'm blaming cover.
I'm blaming redjuice.
And I'm blaming you for being a faggot.

>> No.24324397

>>24324354
Kinda based if true, truly the worst design on Hololive.

>> No.24324409

>>24323153
It's an iffy area of vtubing to me. Like other anons mentioned Hololive probably isn't even the most successful/biggest thing some of these artists have worked on, so I think it's reasonable that they just view it as another comm and move on. Maybe Cover can try telling them that being an artist for them is a more involved role?

>> No.24324421

>>24324354
Holos EN design are inferior to JP, of course. Why would anyone put the best vtuber art set on branch?

>> No.24324482

>>24324383
You're making shit up. He works on what he gets paid for and there's no indication that he's particularly lazy. Her kimono was done and we'll never know the reason it got delayed

>> No.24324500

>>24324383
And you need to get it through your thick head that he isn't being lazy for not showering love to her "daughter". This situation is nothing like what happened with that Mangaka. You can be mad and keep pointing fingers but it's a stupid reason to be blaming people for.

>> No.24324520

>>24324354
Yeah, Kronii is kind of the opposite case to IRyS, completely disrespectful vtuber to their artist, same as Anya
Imagine telling your artist to cover you up because their design embarrasses them.
At least kiara embraced the hot mess of her original design.

>> No.24324525

>>24324421
I felt that JP dropped the ball on holox designs, not a fan of any of them.

>> No.24324580

I stopped caring about the forced artist and vtuber connection when Flare didn't like Lack's original design.

>> No.24324593

>>24324421
Some of the EN and ID branches definitely get the best set.
Baelz, Ollie, Kobo

>> No.24324595

>>24324525
They certainly felt different but I think they grew on me a lot.

>> No.24324619

>>24324525
Most holo debut outfits look kinda stupid.

>> No.24324625

>>24324595
Even shit looks nice if you see it everyday

>> No.24324627

>>24303154
Obsydia probably going to get one next months. I don't think they want to overlap a new outfit reveal on top of Lazylight's One Year

>> No.24324649

>>24324525
Chloe has a top tier design

>> No.24324655

>>24324242
Suisei's and Miko's papas disagree even in the case where the artist was completely in the wrong. The only way out is to have redjuice do a redesign but somehow convince him not to use his art style.

IRyS isn't worth it, it's a project directed by someone who was fucking fired and now she is in limbo. As a holofan it hurts to see but I would rather have JP community's good graces, tons of artist willing to do anything for the hololive label, and not have another issue so the anti patrol can be a nuisance. More people will pick up his cause than he will, even if the separation is completely amicable and he tells them to stop. JP internet is not only schizo, it makes mountains out of anthills.

>> No.24324708

>>24314302
what a sexy ho

>> No.24324723

>>24324482
>>24324500
>actually trying to imply that hololive isn't paying redjuice
>actually implying that he finished the new years kimono and just refuses to give it to her
What the fuck type of redjuice simpery is this, there is no intelligence in these responses, no level of simple comprehension of the facts at hand.

redjuice displays a lack of interest in maintaining any form of involved professional relationship with IRyS, despite there being NO LANGUAGE BARRIER BETWEEN THEM.

The facts plainly show that IRyS has zero communication with him despite wanting to, to the point that she feels she can't even talk about it because it's embarrassing, preferring instead to just say,"hopefully I get an outfit next year."

>> No.24324735
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24324735

>>24324625
I'm not sure if that is how it works.

>> No.24324788

>>24324723
Tell her to send him a DM about it. Maybe she should stop being so shy

>> No.24324804

>>24324525
La+'s kimono is pretty kino, also red noel was decent with the mask

>> No.24324814

>>24324723
>actually trying to imply that hololive isn't paying redjuice
>actually implying that he finished the new years kimono and just refuses to give it to her

I think you are one with comprehension problems here. Only the other guy implied those so I don't know why you are replying to me?

>> No.24324824

>>24324723
Imagine your debut and future are jeopardized by an artist

>> No.24324866

>>24324804
Are they even good? I don't watch them

>>24324814
It doesn't matter if he finished them or not because it will have even worse design

>> No.24325025

Redjuice should be a warning
only contract popular artists if they are chuuba fans
Redjuice don't fucking care how Irys is doing

>> No.24325398

>>24325025
Why are they contracting popular artists who'll most likely cost more anyway? They're big enough to make smaller artists popular on their own.

>> No.24325739

>>24325398
>Why are they contracting popular artists who'll most likely cost more anyway?
Wada is enough to show why, the artist is big enough to make a mediocre person extremely popular

>> No.24325937

Imagine having a papa as good as Lui-nee's
https://twitter.com/kakage0904

I do think redjuice is a scape goat, can you really expect this kind of devotion for everyone?

>> No.24326004

>>24325937
Mio's papa supports all of his children, even when they graduate into a new form like Chloe did.

>> No.24327497

>>24322522
Pako is the same way with Sana. He practically lives in her streams

>> No.24327687

>>24303076
The truth is that Irys just isn't that interesting as a streamer. Without her model she'd get mogged by average twitch girls like Lilypichu

>> No.24328322

>>24326004
I can't believe I never realized Mio's papa was also Maaru's papa.

>> No.24328349

>>24303154
Who?

>> No.24329832

>>24303154
They are almost finished gathering the massive amount of cloth needed.

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