/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>grating voice
>brash personality

I wonder why.

1. Subs don't mean shit, she has one of the most engaged fanbases and earns the second most superchats in EN
2. Euro hours debuff: Europeans are ignorant with shit taste, they don't like vtubers, they would rather watch soccer.
3: Chicken voice

for me it's voice + personality

>>23867180
>>23867196
>>23867257
You think her voice is still bad? Either it's improved or I've been thoroughly brainwashed.

Game choice

>>23867707
it has improved, they just already made thier minds up and not chimed in to a recent stream

its definitely a few tones softer and more mellower, but not quite the level of her real voice

>>23867707
it's better than it was, but there's no shortage of chuubas with very pleasant voices. a lot of her content just isn't strongly aligned with my tastes so she isn't very high on my preference list when looking for a stream to watch

>>23867196
>she has one of the most engaged fanbases
true. i watched her wind waker stream, and she read 3 of my comments, and im a fuckin greyname.

was surprised how well she interacted with such a fast chat. really feels like she loves every kfp.

>>23866557
>ESL title
Why OP is still faggot?

Is... is she unpopular?

>>23868135
>they just already made thier minds up and not chimed in to a recent stream
strong assumption anon

>>23866557
she choose the wrong brand to shill, were she choose popeyes her popularity would be more adecuate

>>23866557
Overall I don't mind her, but her recent Portal 2 collab with Kobo reminded me of how bad she could get.
Rather than treat Kobo as an equal, Kiara went into full-on tardwrangling mode was utterly condescending towards her. Kiara treated Kobo like if she were a special ed kid. I haven't seen her be this much of a bitch since her early collabs with Gura.

>>23868550
>Kiara treated Kobo like if she were a special ed kid.
You have never watched a single Kobo stream.

>>23868613
>You have never watched a single Kobo stream.
You are

>>23868550
I mean that was just them role-playing and Kobo was obviously rolling with it. There's not a lot in EN that have good kayfabe like in JP so it makes sense a lot of EN viewers don't really recognize it. It's obvious that Kobo isn't an actual child but that's the role she decided to stream as and Kiara did a good job playing as her mom.

>>23867707
It's improved significantly. In fact I would be hard pressed to call it a chicken voice anymore. I think anybody still upset by it at this point most likely is actually bothered by her pretty thick German accent, but that's never going away.

>>23868738
You are never watched a single Kobo stream.

>>23868361
no, this thread is made by a bored kfp worker, who misses the good ol days of kiara threads filling the catalog.

she is one of the most popular vtubers in the world, she can pull up to 8k viewers regulary, 4k on supachat readings, is EN's best earner historically.

She has a devoted fanbase, even here, her general thread is one of the fastest. All vtubers, in hololive and out, respect her, look up to her, wanna be her. And all hololive fans mostly endear her, and notice shes stacked with talent, passion and is one of hololives strongest idols, and ENs best idol.

>>23868831
>this thread is made by a bored kfp
I wouldn’t be so sure about that

>>23868613
>>23868748
It's Kiara's attitude that rubbed me the wrong way, I mean. She spoke to Kobo with the condescension of a special ed teacher. Doling out unnecessary explanations for everything and be very controlling of the conversation flow.

>>23866557
Shes not, she has very dedicated fans and a healthy income. Does colabs, plays decent games and even has some different but fun stream ideas. I dont even watch her myself but from seeing a few random streams and her Twitter id day shes doing great

>>23868883
uh huh

lets go back to the general and we can sexpost about kiara together, there was no need for you to make a seperate thread anon, ill always reply to most messages especially if they ask for attention like this one, mkay buddy?

>>23868977
I would delete the thread if I were OP. But no, every day is egg-day.

>>23868929
Absolute retard

>>23868929
Y-YOU DONT GET IT, JUST HER STACEY ENERGY, NOT CONDESCENDING SHE JUST USING HER NATURAL LEADERSHIP, YOU WOULDN'T GET IT...

As a Coco anti, a proud Chinese nationalist, and a Nijisanji stan, Kiara and Mori are the only good Hololive members and the continued vitriol they receive from Holobronies is proof of that, they're too good for this dying company.

>>23868929
She didn't do it with the intention of humillating Kobo, she just likes to step on the role of tracher/mother. But she doesn't actually have any real life experience with those things.

It didn't help that Kobo is much younger than Kiara and doesn't speak fluent English.

>>23868929
Kobo doesn't have the best English and she's never played Portal before so yeah she's gonna help her along lol

>>23869034
>>23868929
you have a valid criticism, if kobo wasnt leaning toward larping as mommys little daughter, and kiara larping as a mommy (which she already does for fun in her own streams)

>>23869034
Maybe over time, she'll learn to relax more around Kobo similar to how she eventually became more chill with Gura nowadays.
But for right now, Kiara and Kobo don't have much chemistry and their stiff interactions show it.

>>23869402
>But for right now, Kiara and Kobo don't have much chemistry and their stiff interactions show it.
Imagine being this faggot.
Imaging seeing the most mother-like of holoEN with the most child-like vtuber of the entire industry and seething at a mother-children relationship on stream.

>>23866557
She doesn't talk in memes so the majority of the normalfags don't care about her. And that's a good thing, just look at Gura's chat.

>>23866557
Because she sucks.

>>23869808
Yeah, me

>>23869402
man, you autistic as hell

pls dont talk to us again, and attend your morning council sessions with the other autismos in school

>>23866557
She’s annoying and sucks. Got any more retarded questions OP?

>>23869402
>t.never watched kiara in his life

>>23869808
SSSSSSSSSSLLURRRRRPPPPPPP

Man, this bait thread sure is popular.

Here comes the usual KFP cope thread.

>>23867196
>second most superchats in EN.
Something that most youtubers don't even use. If they did, there wouldn't be a vtuber at the top of the list. Even after cuts for youtube and Cover, it really isn't much. Most make up most of their money from sponsorship, merchandise, membership and ad revenue, which Kiara clearly lacks if we can track that.
>Euro hours.
Yet, there are many vtubers, even Hololive ones who've streamed at that time and still get more views than her. You'd have more of a point if it's playing popular games vs her usual RPG which there is a clear difference based on views. Even though, she had a high turnout for her fashion design battle with Ina, it still doesn't get near enough the VOD views that a regular debuff game Gura stream gets within the same time and length of play. The only people turning into Kiara is when she drops a new song that is "good" and if she collabs with her more popular hololive friends.

>>23870551
tldr

>>23870897
>Ugh yare yare looks like another KFP cope reply. Guess I’ll have teach them a lesson again
there

>>23871137
Oh... glad i didn't waste my time then kek

>>23871137
Interesting argument but you posted cringe

>>23870551
>Something that most youtubers don't even use.
Who fucking asked? She’s top 2 in hololive EN. Who cares about fleshtubers?

>Most make up most of their money from sponsorship, merchandise, membership and ad revenue, which Kiara clearly lacks if we can track that.
>Kiara
>Lacking membership
>Lacking merchandise
>Lacking sponsorship
RORU, RUOMAO even

>>23870551
>Yet, there are many vtubers, even Hololive ones who've streamed at that time
Vtubers outside of hoholive don’t get more views than Kiara
No holo actually stream in EU primetime on a regular basis apart from Kiara. Kiara start streaming so early that even EU viewers have to start watching during work time.

>>23870003
Well it helps that KFP help by bumping it versus like the maybe 10 guys with actual grievances

>>23871137
>Kiara antis
>BTFOing anyone. Ever.
They are in permanent cope mode and have to make up rrats out of nothing to seethe kek

>>23871336
Sorry I haven’t been chuuni since high school. Lost my touch

>>23866557
She's trying soooooo hard to be entertaining it's painful to watch

You can tell that she's trying to be someone else. Someone more entertaining than while she lacks the charisma and comedic skill of that person

Gura, Fauna, Kronii and Mumei is entertaining just by being themselves with their own trait

>>23867707
I think it's like IRyS' model. You get used to on it's own just fine, but when it is put next to other vtubers how bad it looks becomes apparent.

>>23871794
>Fauna
>Mumei
Imagine watching whores

>>23871794
>reddit
>
>spacing
>
>go back

>>23867180
So fucking true. It's the only reason I can't stand watching her.

>>23871794
Do Gura and Kronii even stream?

>>23871794
>Kronii
>Entertaining
>Mumei
>Being herself

>>23871794
>Fauna
>Kronii
>Mumei
Good way to invalidate your opinion

>>23866557
You guys really can't give KFP a break

>>23871794
Imagine putting anyone in council as an example of entertaiment. The best they can do is be Myth's sidekick

>>23872384
Yeah, their cocks must be swelled by now from all the sucking

>>23872602
>their cocks
Nice

>>23872384
KFP and Cuckbeats are the most fragile fanbases. Not counting chinks. They earn the shit that gets thrown at them.

>>23873018
Nah that's chumbuds. They seethed hard and shitted a thread just because someone dared to say the word mold.

>>23870551
shut up bitch

>>23873018
Deadbraps should be on your list somewhere.

>>23873187
Hold on, we don't shit on your Oshi, she is not even relevant, so don't bring us into this stupid thread of yours.

>>23867180
>>23867257
Whats wrong with her personality??

>>23874081
He's right though. Chumbuds are a bunch of snowflakes

>>23874081
Oh nyoooo the thin skinned chumbaby is mad. How will kfp recover?

personality and voice

>>23874081
Shut up gaybud, go get cucked by a hooman KEK

>>23868550
>like if she were a special ed kid.
Nigga she couldn't differentiate France and Germany. She made the American education system look good.

>>23866557
I actually really like her streams but her inward laugh just annihilates my ears every single time she does it. Reine has the same one it’s so grating

>>23874641
Yo those countries are next to each other. Easy mistake. Americans don't know the names of every US state.

>>23868929
She did the same thing with her Haachama Cooking collab. Joking or not, it just seemed almost mean the way she'd talk about Haachama behind her back. Then the next collab with Kiara, Calli, and Haachama playing a cooking game, it was both ENs talking too fast for Haachama to keep up, prompting her to lose confidence in speaking English, leaving the EN server in Minecraft, and stopped doing anything in English for a long time.

>>23874835
Anyone who acts like a child will be treated as one by Kiara and Mori. I don't know how is that difficult to comprehend

>>23874783
If you can't differentiate France from Germany then you're an absolute retard.

>>23866557
Who ?

>>23874835
>prompting her to lose confidence in speaking English, leaving the EN server in Minecraft, and stopped doing anything in English for a long time.
This happened long before EN even debuted. Haato used to stream A LOT in English. Then Coco debuted and she realized that her English was absolute garbage and that EOPs in her chat were just humoring her. Coco was the person who caused her to lose confidence in her English.
Worst part is that her English was way better back then than it is now. All of this is her fault, she should have kept doing her reps like Lui does. But once the lockdown started she clearly stopped giving a shit despite living in Australia at the time.
Also your argument makes no sense, Kiara talking to her like a child is bad but then talking normally and at a normal speed to her is also bad? Make up your mind?

>>23871503
Not true, just yesterday we destroyed the egg who made a thread about Kiara "stirring up hatred against Fauna and Ame". Orcschizo and Eggman were also BTFO'D hard.
We are actually one of the most successful fanbases.
Mori antis also got BTFO'D recently with the universal deal but it was thanks to Mori, not deadbeats.

>>23874783
They are very famous and important countries. Don't give me that crap.

>>23866557
Her voice filters me

>>23866557
>Holobros promised me Kiara would hit it big after that spectacular performance at 3rd fes

>>23866557
to be a famous chunba, u need dedicated clipper
to be a Kiara, u need a dedicated KamiClipper

>>23878324
Only ID got the buff. The EN fanbase don't give a fuck about idol culture.

>>23878324
Wait she didn't? I thought people said Kiara stole the spotlight or something in HoloFest

>>23871987
Yeah like Kiara

>>23879146
She's literally a virgin

>>23871794
>>23871987
>>23879146
Samefag

what did mori do now that doxbraps had to make another deflection thread?

>>23874835
I don't think anything Holo related had more of an influence on Haachama's relationship to English than her being miserable and isolated (before and during lockdowns) in Australia did.

>>23879320
Hello falseflag.

>>23879378
hello tophatbrap

>>23879165
Sumo wrestler san says otherwise kek

>>23879547
Huh, what is that mean? I only know about the strawberry one, is there more?

European

Kiara's unpopular?

>>23866557
Kiara with her natural voice and toned down swearing would-
-basically be a less popculture-aware Ina, and thus barely do better, if at all.
Some people just aren't made to be the stars of their gen.
No matter what Kiara does, while she is important to her gen, she'll never be the standout.
If she was in Japan/there was no chink coof, and she could have regular 3D concerts, it'd be a different matter, since she'a the standout dancer of her gen. But that'a pretty much it.

Look it's this thread again. The one you've been posting for the past two years.

I never understood the voice complaints, Gura, Mumei and Fauna all have a higher pitch than her and don't get me started on the JP talents. I guess it's because she can go high without losing the volume is the issue anons have with her, luckily there's an easy fix for that.

>>23880198
their higher pitch is dampened by a lower volume though
kiara is high pitched and loud, which makes her voice piercing and ear-hurting

>>23867196
>Cope and wrong
>Seethe and wrong
>Correct

>>23866557
I don't care for her, but I do enjoy bullying her.

>>23880112
Hi, Calli

>>23884521
>let me just claim that something that takes 3 seconds to google and anyone can check is wrong

>>23867196
I dunno why people pretend the voice is the issue. It's not her voice, it's her personality. She's a typical normie white woman to the core. She likes shitty TV shows, spends her money on shitty consumer trash and spends her time with her cats and seething about random trivialities in her banal day to day life. She plays games in the worst possible way and whines and cries when she can't beat them even though she puts zero effort into actually learning how to play the fucking game.

You can go to any Starbucks in the country and interact with a roastie who is exactly like Kiara so why the fuck would you watch her?

She's is the epitome of the braindead entitled western woman. Nobody wants that. She has a close following of Tumblrite saviorfags but that's it.

>>23884924
Wrong. Kiara is a good white woman, trained with Japanese etiquettes and sensibilities and sweet femininity.

>>23884924
>white women
She is a pure blood aryan goddess

Because she refuses to do ASMR

>>23887428
>>23887465

She's white?

She looked Asian from what I saw on that one site.

>>23866557
People get upset that she takes instant control of every collab shes in.

>>23887428
She's overly blunt and abraisive by western standards let alone Japanese

>>23887543
doesnt she try to be asian, visually I mean
there is prob a word for it I dont know of

>>23887621
Right. I presume a hafu or something, but no, she's fully white?

>>23887428
>bumping from page 10
kys

>>23887658
She is fully white, she bruteforced learning Japanese and dropped school to live her dreams in the glorious land of Japan, then came back home and a few times back to Japan and now back in Austria.

just come back to Japan, Kiara

>>23887428
>Yeah I collabed with Nyanners, how does that make you feel
She is just a cunt, that is all. She makes 3 steps in a right direction and then takes 5 steps back. It is impossible to like her.

>>23887718
Hmm, I suppose Japan won't give her a residence permit for VTubing in English.

Which reminds me, Mori is still in Japan, no? Wonder what her residence permit is. Maybe codependent on her boyfriend?

>>23866557
Being multilingual is debuff

>>23887608
Yet despite that, she remains the only one in her gen that resembles traditional holoJP values and loyalty to covers rules.

Even if you think she’s bad, she’s the least worst white woman in holoEN

>>23887543
> She looked Asian

You don't know Asian the same way you don't know sushi

>>23887754
>I collabed with someone you don't like. Cry about it.
>AHHHHHHHHHH WHAT A CUNT
Based tenchou

>>23884924
You do realize every vtuber is just some stupid roastie hiding behind an anime persona to make money off ironic weebs, right?

>>23888010
It's probably the hairstyles. She has one of the typical Japanese JK hairstyles in those photos.

>>23888029
Don't complain about people not liking you then
No one owes Kiara their support and if she does things they don't like they are free to not watch her at all

>>23887543
She was blessed with kawaii Japanese style cuteness, but sadly it didn’t work out for her

>>23888083
I'm not OP. It's just interesting what makes someone insufferable to one person makes her extremely likeable to another. Instead of submitting to the people that got mad about the Nyanner collab she basically said
>I'll do what I want
Pretty based to me and I don't particularly care for Nyanners

>>23868831
tl;dr Kiara is a goddess

So uh, when I made this thread I didn’t expect serious replies. I thought the faux-ESL in the title made it obvious this was bait, unfortunately I forgot to account for most of the population of this board being underage brown children from Southeast Asia. Leaving /jp/ was mistake.

>>23888241
Kiara asks people how do they feel about male collabs, and then shits on people that are upset about collabing with Nyanners who is the epitome of everything wrong with idol-like vtubers. God bless you if you dont see whats wrong with that.

>>23888364
Hello new-ip. I doubt that you’re OP, but just in case. Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, please never do it again.

>>23867196
>they would rather watch soccer.
soccer is far more entertaining than vtubers will ever be. it's a multi-billion dollar industry. meanwhile hololive can't even break 100 million

Fuck it, let’s get this to bump limit and be done with it

Bump

Bump 2

>>23888386
I see nothing wrong with that so I guess I get God's blessing

Bump 3

>>23888386
The worst thing is that people in chat told her that they'd be okay with male collabs. I dropped HoloEN when males have been announced because I know that they will collab.

Normalizing splits was a mistake.

>>23888582
She asked as a way to hint that she's going to interview Yagoo. She doesn't have any interest in Holostars and stated that she doesn't care for male idols in general.

Bump 4

>>23888706
Why would that question be about an interview with her employer? Everyone knows him and redditors love him.

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>>23887888
She's a disgusting narcissistic roastie, how does she 'resemble' JP values exactly.

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>>23888032
>every vtuber is like my chicken slut
Big cope. There are plenty of vtubers who are genuine and likable people. Kiara is not one of them.

Bump 8

>>23888910
I will now cope by rimming her asshole

>>23888680
The fuck is a 'split'? Reddit lingo?

Bump 9

>>23871137
>JoJo
Of course you are a deadbeat...

>>23866557
Unpopular taste in games.

You might as well ask why Nijisanji's Lize isn't more popular here.

>>23888998
/hlgg/ faggot lingo. They think they’re special since they were around first and people like us only discovered vtubers later. Call us tourists or some faggot shit like that.

>>23888852
Despite being an unfiltered bitch, she has not committed a single tab

People see her brutal honesty and zero filter, and assume she’s an out of control whore.

Yet she commits zero yabai, doesn’t mention boys, doesn’t shill other companies, doesn’t drop projects, sticks to schedule even in sickness, finishes play through even if game sucks to her, works incredibly hard to push out content, engages with chat and has no dead air.

She is bereft of almost every flaw that her genmates and all of council has.

Move here since someone spamming this one with “bump”
>>23889157

Bump 10

>>23884924
Sir this is /vt/ not /r9k/

Saw her RM tweet about “rules” for approaching her at conventions, she kinda seems like a cunt

Bump 11

>>23874152
He said it's brash. There is your reason.

Bump 12

>>23889318
Naa you’re just a insecure virgin

Bump 13

>>23889388
shut the fuck up KFP simp

Again, please move to the next thread
>>23889157

>>23889318
>NOOOOOOOO how dare you set clear boundaries, reeeeeeeeeee you fucking cunt
MEDS NOW

Bump 14

it's really interesting that the catalogue hates her so much while the Hololive Global likes her. it's almost like Global is a hugbox

>>23889388
Don’t you have streaming to do Kiara?

>>23889423
Suck my dick, it’ll be the first physical contact you’ve had in years

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>>23889388
The normalfag reveals his true form.

>>23889483
Don't you have purple drink to finish Calli?

>>23889318
Yeah in no way what she said was reasonable. The fact she is not letting us rail her pussy and rim her asshole makes her a cunt.

>>23889475
Why do you think it never hits archive limit anymore? All the good posters left because they aren’t allowed to criticize Holos like Kiara, Calli, Mumei, and Fauna.

Bump 17

>>23889475
Global is the reddit containment thread. Hence why they don't understand how other boards work and call threads outside of their general 'splits'

>>23874641
As someone with multiple degrees hailing from Europe I couldn't tell Norwegian from Swedish or Danish or Portuguesefrom Spanish. It gets worse if we are talking (Southeast) Asian languages.

>>23889582
What was the board like before Global and the Reddit tourists? What happened to the old Hololive general thread?

Bump 18

>>23868135
Well you've just convinced me to have another look, as you are correct in assuming I stopped paying any attention some time ago.

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>>23889475
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, why do most anos on here not participate in my Discord raid threads about hating Kiara, and instead post on Global where they like her
Cope and seethe

>>23888364
Leaving reddit was your first mistake

Bump 21

>>23889724
>Disord raids
It’s not just discord you faggot, pretty much everywhere but here dislikes Kiara to some degree. It’s only 4chan where she gets some support because you fags are natural contrarians

>>23867707
she just says fuck every 3 seconds, I can't watch that without cringing every second.

Bump 22

>>23889793
fr fr so cringe

>>23889786
>everywhere but here
It's literally just here

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>>23889786
lmao what levels of schizo cope is this

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>>23889786
Keep telling yourself that anon. It won't change the fact that you are the only one that still hates kiara

>>23889822
Bullshit, go look at Twitter, Insta, or a random Hololive Discord to see how much the average Hololive fan dislikes Kiara.

>>23889624
Before /vt/ hololive discussion was on /jp/. Global was split off from hlg because we knew EN would draw too many newfags over. hlgg is a holdover from the /jp/ days, it's no longer necessary because we have a whole board but the redditfags got used to being squeezed into a thread that is basically livechat.

Bump 24 1/2

>>23889786
>Everywhere but here dislikes Kiara to some degree
>It’s only 4chan where she gets some support
RUMAO MEDS NOW SCHIZO

>>23889876
Anon maybe you should take your own advice and look at those places? There is nothing but love for every en on twitter

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>>23889899
What’s /jp/ and why’d they make a whole board for vtubers?

>>23889899
Rumao keep crying discordnigger. Got bullied out of the thread and have to post your fanfiction on the catalog.

>>23889876
>You can find a few people not liking Kiara on these sites, but you cannot find a few people not liking Kiara on 4Chan
RUMAO...

>>23889786
>meanwhile on bizarro /vt/

>>23890037
>RUMAO...

BUMP 25.5

>>23889786
Back to /w lolcow farm scum

>>23868766
>it at this point most likely is actually bothered by her pretty thick German accent
You may be right with this one. Other German born English speaking chuubas don't bother me at all. But something about her rather bright? voice paired with her German accent annoys me so much that I'd still rather not watch her. And I'm saying this as a Kraut myself. Weirdly enough hearing her speak German is not as hard on my ears.

>>23889565
>no...why do they keep laughing at me and my schizophrenic posts...

>>23889786
This might be the single dumbest post I have ever read on this board and I can only assume you're some whore straight from the lolcow shithole.

I see this was cross linked in global and now the tourists have shown up.

Kiara rabu

>>23890301
Oh nyo, gonna cry?

>WE NEED TO SEE KIARA LOVE/HATE POLL RESULTS

>>23889992
>the soi creatures in global bullying anyone
You don't really believe this do you? They're afraid of /pol/ lmao

>>23866557
Shit taste unironically. She's the closest thing to an idol in the entirety of EN's landscape and the one who offers the closest JP chuba experience with EN language. She's also at the very least the least ironic weeb of her branch.
She's not popular because people who watch EN are ironic weebs "Kimestu no Yaiba is the best anime ever omg" tier and of course those can't be satisfied with Kiara as they need someone who loves anime and otaku culture ironically like them; they want a twitch whore with anime avatar "who loves anime soo much omg here's my bf btw let's change toxic idol culture".

>>23890664
>anybody being afraid of /pol/sois
These copes just keep getting funnier and funnier.

>>23890684
>She's also at the very least the least ironic weeb of her branch.
She doesn't even watch anime, she just tried to carve out a niche for herself. She prefers to watch GoT and other trash shows

>>23889475
It’s almost like..and stay with me here because it’s a bit of a reach, but it’s almost as if people who watch her content like her as well.

>>23890741
They really talk about it like its a scary no no place.

>>23890908
If saying that makes you feel better, you can believe it sweetie. Don't let me hurt your feefees.

>>23890802
>>23890684
She's a Monogatari enjoyer so she's more cultured than the average western weeb

>>23890971
Is typing like a twitter tranny supposed to be ironic

>>23891026
She likely only enjoys it because of the fanservice, do you seriously believe she picked up on any of the thematic significance of the plot?

>>23891052
Ah there it is, letting trannies live in your head rent free too. Can you get any more pathetic?

>>23890802
>She doesn't even watch anime
Now imagine someone like that being the least ironic weeb in her branch. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about the rest.
Otaku culture is not just anime though. Idol shit, her obsession with JRPGs and the fact that she lived and breathed JP culture since she learned the language and integrated to the country... All that is part of otaku culture and makes her more weeb than watching seasonal anime like normies.

>>23891080
That still means that she understood it better than irony weebs who say they hate loli, while saying that the Monogatari series is one of their favourites

>>23889601
Are you serious? I'm Slavic and I can hear the difference between Norwegian and Swedish and especially Spanish and Portuguese. But weirdly enough I mix up Bulgarian and Macedonian.

>>23891080
She hates fanservice

>>23891080
There's better fanservice shows than monogatari. Despite the fanbase being unbelievably horny, anyone that goes to watch monogatari for the occasional ecchi scene will be sorely disappointed.

>>23891112
There's a reason anime has popularity outside of Japan while idolshit doesn't though and that's because there's a little more to anime than "same-looking girls in the same kind of outfits singing generic j-pop"
You genuinely have to have a few screws loose to unironically buy into Japanese idols

>>23891080
And almost every other EN corpo is an ironic weeb that only watches the flavor of the month shows because it's stupid/the memes/titties.
Kiara is one of the few EN corpos that isn't ashamed to admit she likes Japanese shit and has to hide it behind 300 layers of irony and constantly refer to themselves as "animay gurl".

>point out their obsession with trannies, and watch how the /pol/nigger slinks back into his hole
What was that about bullying again?
>>23890664

>>23891307
>You genuinely have to have a few screws loose to unironically buy into Japanese idols
Back to whatever shithole you came from.

>>23891460
Your blm supporting whore wouldn't approve of you using language like that anon

God just imagine how kiara would act if you accidentally prematurely came inside of her pussy after only 20 minutes of raw sexual intercourse. I bet she'd mock me for my tiny 8in cock, considering the average penis is 9 inches in length.

>>23891566
She'd love that since she's been craving to be bred

>>23867733
She unironically chooses the best games to play. Are you mentally challenged?

She should have chosen S.Korea instead of Jap.
Glad to see she's finally figured it out lately.
If she had liked Korea from the beginning, she would have had a better life than she has now.

>>23891307
All of what you said is not the point of the discussion. I don't care what you think idol culture is about, the point is Kiara is the least ironic weeb/most otaku chuba of her branch.
>There's a reason anime has popularity outside of Japan while idolshit doesn't
Because anime is easy to watch and gets translated so people can watch and like it ironically. Most popular music nowadays is shit precisely because it's easy to listen to: you listen to it and understand everything as the lyrics are plain as fuck and the music is the same beat for 4 minutes straight, it gets boring after a couple of weeks so you drop it and wait for the newer piece that will follow the same formula; and that isn't what music should be as music, like a form of art, should be live throughout times.
>You genuinely have to have a few screws loose to unironically buy into Japanese idols
See? This is why she's not popular. You, a most likely EOP ironic weeb, are her target audience and she doesn't appeal to you as you want an idol vtuber who's not an idol, disregards everything otaku related outside of the most superficial seasonal anime shit and streams with her boyfriend because "it's normal wtf?!".

>>23889601
Kek, what a brainlet.

>>23891530
Nta, but if you’re talking about kiara, she said the n word and then laughed about being cancelled

>>23889175
>doesn't mention boys
>talked about male friend in last members watchalong
>see pic

>>23868550
based Kiara

>>23868249
She is a failed/washed up pro idol who THRIVES on the attention she receives in her new vtuber life.
She doesn't just love all of her viewers, she's borderline yandere.

I dont watch much holoen.
But honestly even with council I just feel Kiara is the only one you truly appreciates the gig and tries hard to be entertaining and fun. The other girls just feel like they're doing their 9-5 then cashing out. Kiara actually feels like she wants to be successful, and while she does numberfag thays just a symptoms of her wanting to succeed, something the other girls clearly lack.

I just feel like Kiara does deserve better than what she got with holoen. She got the numbers thanks to the brand but she'd be doing so much better if she had genmates that cared even half as much as she does. It's so depressing seeing her held back by the pathetic loses her in branch who can't even muster up enough energy to try and be interesting during a collab.
If it wasn't for kiara the entire branch would be a waste of time.

But I'm not a kfp or anything this is just an outsiders opinion.

>>23879165
you dont believe this surely ?? after all the jobs shes had in japan? anon...

>>23892005
rrats peddled by hentai addicts who have no idea of Japanese culture

>>23892005
Kiaras heart is still a virgin even if her body was abused and thats what truly matters.

>>23879165
Sorry bro but she definitely got Weinsteined by a sleazy Jap idol manager

>>23892175
Yeah, me

>>23890908
jesus kill yourself and go back to twitter like he said. you dont belong here faggot

>>23891993
holy based

>>23891875
She killed that rrat before it could grow wings, she said he was taken.

Honestly most of kfp who care for her were disappointed, because it feels like she’ll never have a relationship with a man, and destined to be a crazy cat lady

>>23892121
ah gave ne a laugh

>>23892112
sure bud keep huffing that copium

Man, SPARKS was such a banger. Im still blasting it while driving to work.

>>23892238
Yea, talking about random male is very professional and idol-like. I kneel, Kiara-chama.

She sometimes laments her lack of success as an idol, I as a Korean can only take it for granted.
She came to Japan without thinking even though KPOP was already popular around 2010 among young people, and Japan had become a wacky country.
In fact, Japanese young people are more attracted to Korean products (KPOP, K-Drama, K-movie, K-Car, K-everything!) than to domestic products.
Had she been more informed, she would have made a better choice.

>>23891566
Kiara is out of shape and very sickly. 20 minutes is more than enough. I dont know why people think that women need 3 hours of hard fucking to be pleased.

>>23892525
Korean shit is fucking garbage. They only like kpop because you're selling manufactured whores. And Kdrama because it's just asian Mexican soaps.

There's a good reason Samsung still has no foothold on Japan.

>>23892520
>t.never watched stream

story only 5 minutes, and it was exaggerated by dramasisters

>>23891809
Idol shit is normie shit in Japan. Deal with it. Its the equivalent of girls going crazy for Justin Bieber in the west.

>>23892629
LOL:)
Japanese Netflix ranking is nothing but Korean dramas.
Anime sucks ... . I guess it can't be helped.
Manga aloso lost out to webtoons
And Samsung can't compete with all Japanese companies combined, can it?
Toyota is going bankrupt now that they can't sell gasoline-powered cars.

Good job, Dinosaur.

Voice

>>23892893
Chinks be like "this other chink sucks"
t. a Chink

>>23892739
>Idol shit is normie shit in Japan
Again, you just come and say random shit that adds nothing to the discussion. Even if idol culture were normie shit in Japan that doesn't mean it's not otaku culture; otakus have japanese culture because they are japanese and of course there might be things that overlaps.
>Its the equivalent of girls going crazy for Justin Bieber in the west.
Yes, completely the same as Justin Bieber... You do you, I'm not even giving any more (You)s since you're not even trolling, you are just throwing random shit trying to be "clever".

>>23892665
Even if 10 seconds. Gonna ignore pic?

>>23892893
Kdramas just appeal to old women who want dramas. That's nothing to be proud of its like saying America wants to be Mexico because they consume Mexican dramas.

>>23892525
now we have a gook talking shit about japs. my god what a thread. get some plastic surgery.

korea is the most soulless nation alive taking great national traditions and culture to flush it away trying to copy american culture

>>23893148
>and everyone stood up and cheered
Go back and make China great again.

>>23891993
Were she in JP branch she would be at least as popular as chubas like Noel or Koyo and that's not even a stretch. What she does is exactly the stuff japanese listeners like and the things overseas ironic weebs find cringe. JP chubas get away with it because EOPs can't cringe because they don't understand what they say but you can find some examples of this happening: I remember a clip of Suisei saying she likes shounens and not shotas and the virtue signaling comments on that clip are a perfect example of what EN audience consist of.
Kiara can't get away with it because they understand her. She's honestly all what you said. I'm a JTL so I barely watch EN at all but Kiara honestly deserves more; at least if she lived in Japan she would thrive with all her JP senpais who actually enjoy vtubing and idol shit like her instead of with a bunch of Asmongolds with Wendy's clerk mentality using anime avatars.

>>23893376
He's right though.
Koreans are fucking scum, I doubt the other anon is even korean. Korea is a shithole these days and all their popular exportable are mass produced unwatchable garbage. Kpop is only popular because of plastic barbies being whores on stage.
There's a reason everyone keeps killing themselves in Korea, it's worse than Japan now.

T.korean

>>23889318
It was the first that I thought, but considering some of her past experience it's the most reasonable thing to do, really...

>>23866557
Cause she's the type of girl you 100% know is using the superchat money to buy condoms.

It is embarrassing how Koreans have embraced Christianity and are even circumcising themselves, like American golems.

>>23884924
>You can go to any Starbucks in the country and interact with a roastie who is exactly like Kiara
Holy delusion. Where do you live that white women that speak fluent Japanese and are into JRPGs and idols are common?

>>23893532
>they're all scum except me
stfu faggot

I would unironically marry kiara in a heartbeat.
Then have sex with her every single night.

>>23893713
To use them on me

>>23893912
Like you’d have a choice. As soon as she lands herself a husband, she’s trying for babies every half hour.

>>23894049
God I hope it's me.
having sex multiple times a day actually really hurts. Your dick gets unironically bruised up after the first few times.

>>23888425
Yeah, and it still is for plebs.

>>23889876
I went to o the arcade yesterday and LITERALLY saw somebody in the KFP hoodie dude shut up lol

>>23891954
>She doesn't just love all of her viewers
And who does? It is literally impossible to love every fan if you have more than 10.

>>23868135
No, I hate watch her clips often enough to know I still hate her voice.
>Anon why hatewatch her?
Because her model, especially with the mess hair, is pure SEX

>>23894250
>I want to the arcade
Okay grandpa. Did you stop by the sodapop stand and buy a drink for a nickel too?

>>23894121
>spoiler
Can confirm. I remember masturbating so hard, my dick swelled up horribly. Even saw few drops of blood on it. Had to stop touching myself for two weeks.

>>23894340
How do yiu find it sexy? NTA, just curious

>>23891080
And there is nothing wrong with that. I am tired of anime fans pretending their shows are deep and philosophical like Skakespeare, Dante or Milton.

The average Anime is as deep as the average normie Netflix show.
I watch Anime for the fanservice and girls, and don't I don't feel the need to pretend it is some complex philosophical shit.

>>23894528
Spy x family is deeper and more intriguing than literally anything released in the western market in decades

>>23894015
I feel like she has more than one person she uses them on. That
>teehee all my friends have BFs but I'm super happy as a perpetual third wheel
is the classic excuse of someone riding the cock carousel.

>>23893075
She friendzoned kfp though?

>>23894707
Fubuki also does that yet she loves and panders to her gachis in her mengens unleashing all her sexy fox hagness.

>>23894473
Well drawn facial structure with good movement on her head. Breast size in the sweet spot of my tastes, realistically large without going full tard-boobs. I like her hair colors a lot as well. Her original outfit is my least like of her looks, but farm slut and new years outfits are erectifying, and her classy dress is really nice.

>>23892629
>Samsung still has no foothold on Japan
>>23892893
>Samsung can't compete with all Japanese companies combined, can it?
Ex-Samsung employee here, Samsung has utter dogshit business practices in Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, etc, and it's not only because Korean higher ups are genuinely racist towards literally anyone who is not Korean. The heads of different deparments in their Digital Media division literally refuse to communicate with each other, your 6-month project could just get flushed down the drain because a different team already started working on the same idea 3 weeks before you did and no one even tried to inform you, because they themselves didn't know what's going on if it's not under their direct management.

Imagine still falling for the "hate Kiara" meme like this is still late 2020.
Most people have either become indifferent with her or have moved on. There's a wide world of other vtubers out there to concern yourself with.

>>23868135
i don't like her voice. it has nothing to do with "having made up my mind" or whatever. are you retarded? there's nothing in the world that literally everyone likes. grow the fuck up nigger and realize tastes are subjective.

>>23895185
For me, I don't hate Kiara. Not really.
It's more like I have a love-hate relationship with her. She's the holo who interests me the most but she's also the one who annoys me the most in her worst moments.
I wouldn't be expressing my disappointment with her if I didn't care. I do. I just hold her to a loftier standard than the others so when she fucks up, I let her have it

>>23894373
Arcades are unironically making a comeback and they've always been a thing in Asia. Especially arcade bars where you pay a flat fee and play as much as you want and drink local brews.

>>23895185
KFP can't help to respond, that's the reason antis keep attacking her.

>>23894707
Members streams always shilled as comfy and gosling friendly. Now retards >>23892238 pretend its never happened.

>>23895284
This is why I became a member. She brings the Authentic girlfriend experience for me. Gf annoys me but is also sweet and warming

>>23893376
literally no argument. what the fuck does china have to do with anything lol

>>23895442
Naa I’m just a mega kfp. I hung out in the prechat for her wind wakes stream afterwards, guy named Bob mentioned that the guy she was talking about could be her future bf, Kiara responded in chat immediately and shut it down, saying it was rude and he’s taken tho it’s none of his business. She then prefaced she has all the companionship she needs with her cats, family, friends and kfp.

>>23893884
you shut the fuck up. he clearly is just talking about problems with his country. KFPs really cant take any criticism at all

>>23895809
Based ostrich.

>>23895872
I don't think this is kiara related anymore. I think the chinks are just going at it.

>>23894373
I'm not that old! I just live in a big city with a sizable asian population.

>>23867196
>Retarded anon implies Eurofags don't watch Vtubers and says they have shit taste
>I, a Eurofag, watches his oshi's oshi every single day without exception
>Meaning anon also implies that Watching Kiara is having shit taste as well.
Nahone

>>23868512
DAS RITE

>>23866557
I'm a Kiara member, but JRPG's are just not my thing. It's a massive debuff for viewership.

Voice
Grating personality
Too much of a hololive fangirl.

>>23896906
>Too much of a hololive fangirl
Found the cuckbeat

>>23896983
Go to bed Richard. Your boogeyman isn't real.

>>23896573
Retarded euroscum. I was talking about Eurocucks in general, of course not every single Europoor has trash taste.

If you don't see why having continent with more population than North America with so few vtuber fans is problematic, then you are delusional.

>>23895809
>friends
Male friends lol. Rental boyfriend, pizza guy, guitar guy, who else?

>>23898254
what are you talking about?

>>23895809
Kiara may hate him but kfp should thank him. I was gonna shitpost a lot about it but he had to ruin it

>>23898364
Males she talked about on stream. Her "friends".

>>23889793
ESL brain, please understand.

>>23895809
NTA but honestly this is kind of a problem in why she isn't as popular.

I was in that member's stream and after having the movie constantly desync having her go on about some deadbeat that she talked about teasing and how she wants to sing to him to see if he notices who she is really filtered me that day.

I was not in the windwaker prechat but even if he did have a GF to other people it would come off as more as damage control to try and stop a yab from growing.

>>23898995
To be popular (numbers), you need to pander to normalfags. Yabs, GFE, talking about males or collabing with males is absolutely not debuff. Look at Mori.

>>23867180
Kiara is that one normie filter everything weeb related should have. Either you like her or outright hate her, there is no middle ground.

>>23894319
Learn to read

>>23866557
Oh look an egg post in broken english, how original

>>23899143
>To be popular (numbers), you need to pander to normalfags
This is only true for EN though. In JP is pretty much the opposite.

>>23866557
look this stupid face

now ask again

>>23895809
Can't she just ban him without saying a word, or better don't use pre-chat?
Showing that kind of guy any attention is the wrong move.

>>23887718
regardless of how cringe and annoying kiara is, you gotta give her credit for being one of those crazy literally-gamble-with-your-future types.

I've been wondering, is KFP really taking this bait seriously, or do all these replies come from one person?

>>23904097
I like replying to bait
>t.kfp

>>23875145
It's hard to distinguish two nigs. Both are black. French and German are the two nigs in this case, at least at Kobo's POV.

>>23889601
French has latin roots and German is, well, a germanic language.
No matter your degrees, you're retarded if you can't differentiate them.

>>23891993
The next gen of EN unironically needs to be ALL numberfags. I don't care what their specific niches are, but they NEED to be numberfags in order to counter the diseased apathy of Council. They have to be at least as numberfaggy as HoloX.

>>23904097
Any excuse to talk about Kiara is a good excuse to talk about Kiara

>>23904839
Numberfagging is a good thing for the creator, it means they're actively trying to reach out and improve themselves.
At least as long as its not just any numbers for the sake of numbers. We don't need a shylily or vei, but we could use a pekora.

>>23904821
Well French IS the most Germanic out of all Latin languages, thanks to the Franks. But that’s mostly grammar and some marginal vocabs. The phonology is just completely different and only a retard would mix them up.

>>23893532
koreans are funny.

slave away in school for 2 decades and get your mandatory plastic surgery because you are literally not allowed to be ugly. spend your twenties under the crushing weight of impossible expectation, vapid culturally enforced materialism, mandatory military service snatching some of your glory years, and a garbage job market creating a permanent caste of underpaid and underemployed people. suicide by 30.

at what point during all that can you say that a korean was ever even "alive"? they weren't. they aren't.

well, at least the seaniggers worship them hahaha

>>23904672
I will give Kobo a pass because she's young and Asian, but if you, as a western man can't tell them apart, you are retarded.

>>23905733
As a culture and language? Sure.
As generic plots of land on a map? Na.

I have literally 0 reason to ever look at a map of Europe and give 0 shits about where any given country is because why should I? I'm never going to be standing in Germany and wondering which way the French are. One the off chance I'm ever in Germany and need to go to France I'm taking a plane anyways.

>>23905933
Only an American could be so proud of his own ignorance.
>I have literally 0 reason to ever look at a map of Europe and give 0 shits about where any given country is because why should I?
Germany and France are very important historically. We still live in a post WW2 world, where do you think that war was fought?
Where do the ancestors of white Americans come from? From Germany, Ireland and the UK.
They are also among the most important allies of your country.

>>23906110
And why should I care?
I don't expect you to know where Maine or Ohio are because nobody outside of the US would care.
>b-but muh history
and what does their location on a map have to do with anything important?
The happens of WW2 are mostly irrelevant location wise unless you're delving into the military strategy and reasonings for why things happened a certain way. But since I'm not a general that's irrelevant, the only relevant parts is that Germans are dicks and French are pussies.

>>23891080
Yes, you fucking retard. I hate you motherfuckers, pretending you're so smart and so deep because you cried during the credits of Nier Automata and "helped" someone in need. Its just a shame you take the message of the game and shove it up your ass because you were upset an anime girl had a different reaction than you, despite the fact that her raging and telling Yoko Taro to shove it was much more entertaining than any retard that cries during that. Lets not forget you ignore completely how engaged she was at the characters' struggles and how she cried during various scenes, but of course, to you she did not understand the game, only you did, you are special.

>>23906355
Based take.

>>23906355
Honestly, holy based.

>>23906355
based, I've noticed a ton of nierfags are exactly like that, they physically can't comprehend that it's possible to understand the entirety of their games and still not like part/all of it for whatever reason

>>23906479
>>23907523
oh it's based alright
based on the word of god

>>23866557
About 5k consistent viewership that trickles down to 3k when she is just reading SC.
>unpopular
Either you dont know what the word means, or you have unrealistic standards.