/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>2329324
You could just make a thread to discuss them without being such a bitch about it. Write up a proper OP and link their channels.

>>2329324
The only problem you have, is finding someone interested enough in the things you are to have someone to discuss it with. Sorry Anon!

>>2329432
I'd have assumed there to be generals already. Also my scope is way too broad in all honesty, so I just wish there'd be threads for individual agencies or at least an inbetween categorization that isn't nijiholo or indie.

>backed by small companies
> Fuji Aoi
> Sponsored by Sony Music

Go neck yourself pls

>>2329324
People shill VOMS all the time and have even brought up your pictured chuuba before on occasion. It's just your particular taste isn't very popular.

>>2330942
I should have made the dependent clause in that sentence a bit more obvious but I meant to say /smaller agency/ OR /corporation/ backed. With the implication that corporations would be much larger. I mean, this should be obvious enough when the pic i put in the OP is literally a gijinka vtuber of Suntory.

>>2331100
Truth hurts I guess, maybe the best thing to do is to actually make a general like the one anon said in order to proselytize my taste but I'm a big lurker who doesn't even go on here that often.

>>2330942
>Fuji Aoi
I checked her out after liking her performance at V-Carnival, and I was surprised at how comparatively little live singing she does. Is she one of the vtubers who is more active as her roommate, by any chance?

>>2333086
I wouldn't know. I think she's more of studio artist than a live singer? She's very active in releasing albums at the very least

>>2329324
Every VSinger thread dies because there's only about ten of us here that are even into VSingers.

>>2333752
I guess it's a bit too niche even for this niche medium. EOPs probably don't watch vtubers that don't stream that often and even fewer watch vtubers that don't get translation clipped.
It seems there isn't even an Utaite general on /jp/ anymore either.

>>2333086
Is there a torrent or a stream vod of V-Carnival anywhere? I'd be interested in some of the livewatch threads for it too, even if it's in Holo general or whatever; know what to look up?

>>2334188
nyaa

>>2334188
>>/vt/thread/S2161263

>>2334278
>>2334465
thanks!

Cocoa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z45mMcsagp0
Saki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdNCh_4-xS4
Iori: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyncNDblcL4
koko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8WWf0H1ehc

>>2329324
Vsingers don't have enough activity to keep a thread alive here, except for when there's an event going. People like Kaf's crew, Riot, and a couple of individuals who're signed like Hachi and MaiR always get mentioned during those streams even if they're not performing.

Mia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw5kR13NteI
Hachi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBlXS8J1lA
Musica https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpkCZkWHJhU
Yura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CsR45QwO04

Give it a few more months for the EN bandwagon jumpers to get bored and move on and threads here will be able to last more than 4 hours and we'll be able to have threads like these. For now the board is full of global kiddie who need to make a new thread whenever the orange woman does anything or the very second their general hits the bump limit

>>2337745
Actually, the next to debut from Hololive is likely to be the EN Vsinger(s) so a thread for them will probably be the natural home just like /mori/ has their extended universe.

>>2330942
>smaller agency or corporation backed
>or
Reading comprehension reps or kys

>>2329324
c'mon OP give me a playlist of their best songs

It's easy to appreciate VSingers' singing ability and whatever but what do you gents think of their variety? I feel like alot of the time they sing the same, how would I even describe it, oricon-core songs? If not those then Utaite staples you've been exposed to for the last decade.
I appreciate Aoi's variety (probably due to how long she's been in the scene), as well as KAF and vsingers like her who have a lot of original content, plus that one Niji that sings Choral songs. Oh and I also like that one Kamitsubaki girl who sings more hymnic anisons, the one with silver blue hair. But beyond that it seems like they're confined to a top oricon and anison-adjacent style, you'd expect them to cover mainstream J-Pop acts like Oomori Seiko, Yakushimaru Etsuko, Miki Furukawa, Passepied, Kaho Nakamura, Ayano Kaneko, Ayumi Hamasaki etc. but it's rare in comparison.
Is it just licensing that's the hurdle?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r1yyz7MzTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gayFHHF9aQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUvthLpSHrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhWq-ceJa5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3n8Ln6P52o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNlzvFubggk

just posting some songs i like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnn3mx9bY-0

Hachi's voice is a fucking drug I can't stop

I love Vsingers. Azki, KAF, Rim, Yuni and Fuji Aoi are some of my favorites. A shame how eops don't like them, which is why azki was completely ignored until this year.

AZKi's going to have AMOKA opening for her Live this weekend. Should be pretty hype.

https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1379750806614802433

>>2337745
That's a pretty fucking dumb take.

The reason why VSinger threads die is because there's nothing worth talking about compared to live streamers.

Most VSinger threads devolve to "X released a song" and "Nice song"

Compared to the live streamers wherein you can react to and talk about what happened during or after their stream

>>2338478
He isn't really wrong that they would survive longer if the board slowed down though.

>>2338511
Honestly, the board is more likely to speed up as EN2 adds a massive new wave of posters, even disregarding the Vsinger debut and still inclining fanbases of existing Hololive members.

>>2338922
Will it really though? How many people do you think there are that are that don't know about Hololive already and would post here?

>>2333752
>>2334054
I've been trying to get more into VSingers lately but it's a way bigger hurdle than getting into your average regular chuubas, so getting threads like this where i can lurk (since i have nothing to contribute besides the usual names that everyone and their dogs knows about already) where i can give it a go to whoever gets posted that would almost definitely fly under the radar otherwise is a godsend for me.

>>2339331
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRbKF4l1YzIPngmPmMyWj53GG30_Y1GRy

72 hours of music to get you started. It's the playlist to AZKi's most recent indieFes.

I'll take all of your 月光 covers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6B-isLbj18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQogddTszsM

>>2339079
The moment they debut it's going to be a lot of "X better than Y" , "[second wave chuuba] is way better that [first wave chuuba]" or the other way around, "finally EOPs will notice that orange woman is bad" and so on. And wait until NijiEN comes in and this entire board become a dumpster fire of tribalistic shitflinging and nothing more. If anything, now's the right time to have a thread that can survive the inevitable /v/t cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUIXiEAYLE Kanade Mimi's another stand out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2FyEBXXEd0 Luci needs to release an original, but I'm looking forward to it since she's right up there with Hachi as a vocalist, especially when she goes low.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgGCMX7G_0 Vesperbell is a duet act, and while Kasuka is good, I love Yomi's voice.
https://youtu.be/c9P_rz0h9bI Harusaruhi is one of the few hip-hip artists who's really good, but that's to be expected since she's part of Kaf's crew

Unrelated, but why is everyone suddenly covering the OP from Black Lagoon? Is there news of a new season or something?

>>2337890
I don't know much about singing but regarding KAF, I feel like her voice makes her songs kinda same-y? Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good voice and I really enjoy it but it might be a tad bit overpowering. Hearing her sing, I can't help but think of her voice being tied to a reserved, emotional niche. For instance, https://youtu.be/V0Olmwnnpj8 is what a "KAF"-type of song is, in my opinion. I guess my point is that her voice is kind of stiff/set in it's own way or that I just have this preconception of her songs based on her voice that it detracts from her when she branches out?
https://youtu.be/zX2SI3ntR2A
https://youtu.be/g6cTC445zYY
These two songs break that illusion for me though since she sounds a lot more energetic than what I imagined her to be. I like these in a gap moe kind of way.

>I also like that one Kamitsubaki girl who sings more hymnic anisons, the one with silver blue hair.
Are you talking about RIM? I found out about Kamitsubaki a few weeks ago through Kaf but Rim is my favorite out of the bunch so far. Seeing them during their live, their voices feel sort of similar, leading to natural duets. Though, Rim's voice sounds closer to "average" to me which I think would make her voice more malleable and applicable to different styles. She also done english songs which is nice (plus a cover I keep coming back to).
https://youtu.be/WDk_gv0byMs
https://youtu.be/Bu9HChtAlCY

>>2339079
Bro, there will be a general for each new girl every single day clottering up the catalog. It won't slow down at all, unless Hololive get their own board.

>>2339556
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUIXiEAYLE Kanade Mimi's another stand out.
Thank god an anon tipped me off on this when I asked about notable songs from the showcase. It has a really comfy retro feel to it.

>>2339659
What do you think this board is for, anon?

>>2339672
She's going to be having an acoustic birthday concert on the 12th with a live band, apparently. It should be pretty fucking hype.

>>2339523
More topics to post about doesn't necessarily mean a higher volume of traffic overall though, could just the same people having different conversations.

>>2339672
>>2339724
I love Mimi's voice
She also released a song along with Ruri, Dola, Inui Toko and FBK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBh12rFjms8
Her solo around 2:16 is so fucking good

https://youtu.be/ow_pwV1hJd8

Would it be ok to post links to vtubers karaoke streams here?

>>2339585
>Are you talking about RIM
I was actually mistaken earlier, Suzuna Nagihara is under Riot Music, not Kamitsubaki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DwD67Bn5fE
I do like RIM though, first heard her the other day at V-Carnival, there's a shitton of talent over at Kamitsubaki it seems.

>>2340171
Oh this is an Oomori Seiko song isn't it? Fucking love the album it comes from

>>2339673
For Virtual Youtubers, but that doesn't mean it should be clutter up by one single company. Futaba did it, and because of it their /vt/ is better for it. Their /hlg/ also got rid of a bunch of antis after being cut-off.

>>2340246
speak of the devil
>>2337890

>>2340213
Won't hurt, those threads are dead anyway.

>>2340257
Huh. I thought Niji was bigger in Japan.

You mean to tell me Holo has their own board but Niji doesn't?

>>2340354
Take a look for yourself. Here's their /vt/ board: http://dec.2chan.net/73/futaba.php?mode=cat

And here's Hololive: http://dec.2chan.net/84/futaba.php?mode=cat

>>2340622
So their Vtuber board is basically Niji and Hololive is a containment board

That makes no sense. Might as well return Hololive to Vtuber

>>2340784
Makes perfect sense if you ask me. Hololive keeps acting more like its own closed environment, with off company collaborations getting rarer by the day.

>>2340257
I like how they go about their "Vの音楽" thread, dudes post new release links and concert/merch/collab information. A bit of discussion here and there, slow but typical for Futaba.

>>2340622
The only threads really active there are the live ones in the Hololive board.
Most nips use 5Chan anyway right?

>>2340784
Futaba has a retarded report system where threads get auto-deleted after enough reports, so all the nijiniggers would spam reports on Holo threads. I went there before the Hololive board got made and the only Holo thread they had was for Sora

New Suzuna Cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66Mr9YWwiMQ

>>2339585
I think the issue that you're describing in Kaf's case specifically comes from the way she's being produced. Her producers are very obviously trying to sell her as stoic, mysterious, and sorrowful, and to that end most of the songs they've had written for her and the coaching she's presumably receiving in regards to public appearances is towards that end. I know what you mean though. My personal favorite song of hers holds that position precisely because she shows some passion in it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dr91z1-Iug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDs-hDvKqdA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqy7Ws5ed9c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3gDMAfDfgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZtj2xHIok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZgZOaF04aE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BuecZyTk4w
posting some recent-ish things from some of the people I follow

>>2337890
Personally I think having that sort of utaite "canon" makes the scene rather fascinating in a way; it at times almost feels like you could call it a genre. At present you can feel that very strong lineage out from utaite traditions from NND and seeing how things evolve from here in a few generations will be interesting.

Without knowing what happens behind the scenes I think it's impossible to say how much of that is based around what the singer likes, what the backers like, what they think the fans like, what they're capable of licensing, etc. but I honestly feel the practical licensing concerns are a smaller thing compared to the priorities of the singers and companies themselves.

So aside from Hachi, any of the other Live Union talents worth checking out?

>>2349948
I like Kano enough to sub to her. She doesn't seem to do a whole lot, though she's been pretty active in the past few weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMt3f4R4CmE

>>2349883
well i guess one huge thing that singing vocaloid songs has going for it is the music is free

where as if you want to cover some jpop song that nobody has done before its fine from a copyright perspective more often than not, youtube has a blanket agreement with the japanese record industry for that, but what you aren't allowed to do is use the original music from the CD, so unless you are actually skilled as a musician you are going to have to commission someone to cover the song for you to a high enough quality

>>2337890
You also have the fact that the type of people who're going to want to be a vsinger instead of merely using their face are unlikely to have tastes that run in parallel with the culture at large, and are far more likely to be massive otaku themselves. People sing what they listen to and what they like, and you also have a bit of a feedback loop where you'll have one person sing a song and then it infects the community at large because they hear it and like it.

https://youtu.be/aBsKQN58enA
https://youtu.be/3ahyFdgjjKA
https://youtu.be/y18DN4Yk4No
https://youtu.be/K3SScfB83kc
https://youtu.be/17W9y0QlL4A
https://youtu.be/jqL-V8-h3mQ
https://youtu.be/ZKh1dXFOScE
Some songs I like from AZKi's live. How many of them do you know?

>>2355661
>https://youtu.be/K3SScfB83kc
I think this group performed during Kaf's concert?
I really wish I could've seen all 24 hours instead of just the beginning and an hour in the middle and a bit of the end.

https://youtu.be/jZnQz0Zs0jk
This guy seemed really interesting in that it sounded like he was singing for himself rather than others in a cathartic way.

>>2355907
>I think this group performed during Kaf's concert?
Perhaps, I just know them from the second 48 hours where the DJ highlighted them

>>2355907
Yo, that guy is really good!
>tfw you checked his twitter and his latest album is literally called "Songs that nobody listens to"

>>2357567
His videos were certainly distinctive during the stream with how they just focused on his guitarplaying instead of his model as well. Reminds me of ぼっちぼろまる.

>>2350104
Actually how do vtubers get those voiceless song audio tracks that they use on their utawakus? There like a database they're pulling from, doubt they have to manually edit shit themselves every single time

>>2368524
Japan has karaoke apps and services. I remember it was a big deal that Mori got her first EP added to them. You can also find karaoke versions of most popular songs on Youtube.

>>2368757
That's cool, I'm guessing it skirts the copyright issues as well?

>>2368924
Not a clue. I assume not, but they use shitty midi instruments so it's not the literal same backing track as the actual music, so the AI won't pick it up as easily, and that might be enough if they're small enough that no one is manually copyright trolling them.

>>2329324
I get ads for Riot Music girls and follow nu-Cocoa on twitter but still have not listened to any of their music except for the Slam Dunk song cover by nu-Cocoa. Its fine. Not a fan of short hair Cocoa but the black hair sidetail girl is cute. I think Aoi's glow up is really great, like Sora's. Siro got way too fancy looking. Here's my favourite cover by old Cocoa who is probably my favourite vsinger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjPshuVxiWY
I wish Hololive got nice MVs.

>>2333752
I'm into VSingers but like utaite, there's not much to discuss. For vtubers,I like old-Cocoa, Suisei and HimeHina songs. Sister Claire's Dogma is nice too. Those are just off the top of my head. I like Akari's Mirai to Mirai and KMNZ are alright too.

Here's a discussion topic: How would you define VSinger? Namely, where is the line that divides VSinger from VTubers who integrate singing into their activities?

>>2329324
if ya wanna find more cover songs from vtubers (maybe you could find your vsinger oshi!) here a playlist.
1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLexo9NaHJSEP1Y4w98t0rUNYUiT_N_8ne
2: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLexo9NaHJSEPC8giWPq87Na86-yl2Sh7d

Just start your own thread, OP.

>>2369150
I assume vsingers are those who primarily sing and don't have much gaming/talking content. Utaite who adopt a vtuber avatar, unsure.

https://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1380415461645410306

RIM 1st ONE-MAN LIVE scheduled for 5/15.

>>2369222
Well, for the time being this is it

>>2369707
I like her hoodie.

>>2369207
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUzJ90o1EjqUbk2pBAy0_aw/playlists?view=1&sort=dd&shelf_id=0

>>2368924
It depends where you are getting them from exactly and what license they provide them with but yeah more or less there are places that publish versions of popular tracks they have made for people to use like that.

>>2371110
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87w_Bw4LUyI
didn't expect to find some full band

The KMNZ girls are cute, their music are nice and they've been around awhile already.

Yuka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6oaAwcC0Vc
Kyo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMtkrE2OnrE

>>2369707
Hasn't she already had solo lives in the past? Or am I thinking of KAF

Post Originals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_GLYKh4aY

>>2374916
Just KAF

>>2371769

>>2379530
Their video for the VR song was neat, but I will never understand Japan's obsession with doing everything at the top of their register.

>>2373271
Yuka's avatar is damn cute, I wish I liked her singing more.

>>2379530
They cute and good

Got into Hachi recently. I have to say that her utawaku streams are visually refreshing compared to the typical holoniji utawaku streams, even though it's just simply her sitting there while the camera is moving about her.

>>2382378
Yea, she has a good set up, though if you go back, you can see how she evolved that dynamic up since she used to do the same as them which looked pretty boring with her 3D behind a prop desk. The thing that amazes me the most is how many vsingers are apparently sitting down while doing it instead of standing up, which is a massive debuff.

Let's say you wanted to introduce your favorite VSinger(s) to someone new and had to choose one original and one cover they did. Which ones would you choose for your favs?

>>2385021
I'll start off with an easy one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJBlXS8J1lA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLOx8QZgE0E

>>2385021
She's pretty good too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ade1Z0s2-Fs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGTPha_KsbA

>>2379530
Is this iTunes Japan? Surprised to see Mori get topped by vsinger but I guess Japan's market is probably different from the global scene.

>>2387456
Mori's album has been out for a week while KMNZ just released, on top of all the physical album sales that Mori had. Still good of the catgirls to make it to the top of the hiphop charts, and top 10 overall, though.

>>2387616
>on top of all the physical album sales that Mori had
It kind of bothers my curiosity that the Japanese charts don't include foreign sales. You go to Oricon and it only shows 1,200, but it is probably a safe bet it sold multiple times that globally but that is never going to show up anywhere that I know of.

>>2382525
Debuff to singing you mean?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU-nrk7Mkls Quick, watch Melissa before she/he quits

>>2390892
Yea, you can't draw a full breath unless you're doing some super awkward lean to straighten out your core, which means you can't hold a note as long and need to breath more often.

>>2390945
I remember from choir class when I was younger, regardless of whether standing or sitting, posture was always chest up, shoulders back, breathe from the stomach.

I like this thread. Please continue to exist.

>>2391430
Go get ready for your stream, you dumb reaper, and talk about AZKi's fes next time it happens.

A bit interesting how there is basically no EN Vsinger. Really shows how immature the scene is.

>>2392277
I kind of feel like that focus on music really isn't there as much in the EN scene from what I have seen? Maybe I am just showing my lack of knowledge but it doesn't seem commonplace at all for them to produce full on MVs and covers, just some that do karaoke sometimes.

>>2392601
I may not personally like her rap style, but you have YFU Baby. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydBTjqnykG4

There is also Bao, and probably a bunch more indies who I have no clue about streaming to 12 viewers.

>>2392640
Yeah I am not saying nobody does it ever necessarily. But compared to the Japanese scene even if you aren't even trying to push yourself with a music focus it seems to be almost a prerequisite of being a vtuber to at least do some covers sometimes.

>>2392839
I mean, you have the pink cat who shall not be named who released a couple of meme covers, and the green moose does them as well, but most vtubers just want to be streamers instead of idols, which means they don't need to put out music because the Western fanbase doesn't expect that.

>>2392277
Music production is hard and expensive. The closest you have Is Futacuchi Mana.

>>2391430
should we make it a general? /VSingers/ or something like that?
What goes in the OP?

/vsinger/ is the accepted name

As to the OP, who the fuck knows. Hard to cover everyone, so unless someone wants to make a pastebin and start compiling, you're gonna risk offending people who're left out so might be better just to have a general description.

not exactly vsinger but probably some people would be interested in this
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Ab4y1X7Yc

>>2393330
Sounds like a good idea. /morig/ sometimes turn into mori-affiliated vsinger general sometimes anyway.

>>2392601
I think you're right and there might be an actual cultural difference at work. Like if you look at NND and its early days, it ended up producing a whole bunch of singers who went professional and achieved some level of mainstream recognition and success. Are there many such equivalents in the West? Does Youtube have an equivalent figure to, say, Gazelle?

>>2395033
Justin Bieber?

>>2395193
Not sure if that's directly equivalent given that Bieber was a nobody who only achieved recognition because he was chosen to be produced, in the same vein as all of the teenage Disney stars, whereas Gazelle was already a big deal before she collab'd with Supercell to sing Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari.

>>2395538
Just the only example I could really think of that started out on youtube before becoming mainstream successful.

>>2396891
You have ones in weeb adjacent medias like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmaLee.. You also have a bunch of modern rappers who started on Youtube and other social media to the point soundcloud rappers is an accepted meme.

>>2392277
There also isn't much of a karaoke culture in a lot of english speaking countries. For many people, the most they'll ever sing will be during school which reduces the pool of streamers who'll even realise they'd like singing.

>>2392277
Depends on how strict your threshold is. There's an English utaite community on Youtube already that have similar features to the Japanese scene (usage of consistent characters in MVs and songs)

>>2385072
I'd probably use her "I beg you" cover.
https://youtu.be/9pI3UMkJ6Ac

>>2385021
Original:
https://youtu.be/60kEVe3sae4
Cover:
https://youtu.be/E13ZmVuCp0A

>>2395033
Calli?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqM1_O9vV2Q (Sifar is part of this cover)
Project A.I.D is back after hiatus https://twitter.com/Project_AID_/status/1380460482784452608
new Akesato covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWQd0H7Bzzw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ3HWZxbiek
pnmcmnj (emoi bear) has a solo concert coming up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_OrATokycc
>>2355661
>https://youtu.be/17W9y0QlL4A
I didn't see this before the stream but I enjoyed it a lot
>>2355907
>https://youtu.be/jZnQz0Zs0jk
this was really good

It's not just Vsingers, but this channel uploads a lot of clips from vtubers karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/c/Noctuural/videos

>>2385021
Does MonsterZ Mate counts? If so this is some songs from them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se0Cfzwfj8A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh_HLv-ggzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdYm434lPlE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=471XhgCPYqE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJLfH9JFCl0

>>2340784
All Holo threads except Sora's got spammed and deleted after the permission controversy. The board was created so Holofans can actually talk about Holo without being spammed by haters. Other than the live stream reaction threads, the Holo board is actually pretty slow.

>>2408327
Monster Matez and Boogey Voxx certainly count. Speaking of which, here's a rare song from the latter that I found by doing my reps on AKZi's stream since I don't think they have it linked on their channel. Ci's verse at ~2:30 is fucking amazing, and she killed the English except for each
https://youtu.be/3SAvr49Q3mA

>>2413894
I kind of wish Futaba was a bit faster, everyone and their mothers are on 5ch but I can't stand navigating pure text boards

>>2420150
I like it, personally, but I also don't try to have a conversation there, so it's nice that I can go check on the zoo and whatever posts are about the topic will be right at the end even if it's been a while.

Midy's one of the more unique vsingers in that she's much more of a composer and mixer then a singer, but her music is pretty sweet if you like Future Bass. https://youtu.be/NuWOD8gdmc0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljmGSQvYeGo

She only started a month or so ago and has 3 covers so probably counts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJxZOkjeWoA

>>2427830
If they're singing, why not? I'd shill Towa and Watame here if literally everyone here hadn't heard them.

Relatedly, AZKi's concert is in like 8 hours.

>>2427884
Same mama as Chima was how I found her. Also she has a 3D model already from the start.

>>2427830
No singing streams yet, but will keep an eye out for.

is it just me or the girls of Riot Music has been streaming less and less? should I start backing up their song covers right now?

>>2433537
You should be archiving them regardless, but it's not like the girls streamed much to begin with.

>>2433537
I've never actually seen them stream, just catch the covers when they drop. There were multiple just lhis past couple of days

GEMS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSMSsUUAI9w

AZKi live now
https://youtu.be/xptulIh3CEg

>>2437305
AZKi hype!

>>2369072
Could I get a rundown on Cocoa and Riot?
I remember seeing one of her long hair MVs a long time ago but when I search up Riot music on yt, it shows her short hair channel? Is Riot music just a newer group that pulled her in and set her up with a new channel?

I think this is the company that oganized the 3D concert. At least it's credited in the bio.
https://twitter.com/cambr_jp

Nina isn't an actual vsinger but she works her ass off for her singing streams and she sings AMAZINGLY for an amateur. Check her out! You won't regreit it!

https://youtu.be/wfJCE2tMMjI

>>2437574
>Nina isn't an actual vsinger
VSinger doesn't mean someone that only sings. Even the likes of Hachi and MaiR don't do only that.

>>2437658
Well, in this case I meant vsinger as someone who focuses on singing, Anon. I do get your point!

>>2437574
That stream was the first time I caught her live and Good Neighbor hit me like a truck.
Has she considered making an original song, Ninabro?

>>2438339
Nice! I hope you will one day join us Ninabros, if you havent already!
I know only two things:
- She mentioned on stream she doesn't know to write songs so she would need to learn.
- She is working on a proper duet with StalkerAlker on a Nier song.

>>2438485
>- She mentioned on stream she doesn't know to write songs so she would need to learn.
There are people who'd write lyrics and full songs for you. I'm sure she can afford to hire some of them.
Heck, I can afford to hire them.

>>2438773
Reach out then to her? I am sure she'd like the offer - maybe even Stalker would want that?

>>2439075
I'm not that big of a fan of hers? I just know that a lot of vtubers use other people to write the songs, they just perform them (and have the IP due to paying for it).

>>2439162
Ah, thats alright, I thought you were implying you could foot the bill! I am sure she has a lot of expenses to cover so it might not be a priority for her and she isn't getting that many dono's so not necessarily easy to be frivolous.

Hachi singing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONNZh3jZ2qk

>>2437440
Cocoa is still managed by the same company, although they have a different name now called Brave Group. Riot Music started with the new Cocoa initially, then Saki debuted, followed by Iori, Yuka and Suzuna. the new Cocoa initially had the original long-haired model but they changed it to short-hair after some time.

>>2439549
Her voice is so beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EYtmStwNdA Ena is singing Yorushika songs, come watch if you can

>>2437440
>>2439985
it's pretty interesting when vtubers incarnate with a new nakanohito like cocoa and they carry on the name (instead of trying to bamboozle fans like with Kizuna AI).
Kind of reminds me of Rakugo where successors take on past names.
よっ!二代目!

>>2440470

Uh no anon. There was a shitshow when Riot Music reused the Cocoa model.

Everyone basically just is "okay" with it because Riot Music won't acknowledge that they are basically disrespecting the legacy of the previous Cocoa

>>2440554
I've been reading the comments on new cocoa's debut cover, they were all pretty supportive.

>>2439549
>know her from seeing Rainy Proof MV
>tune in to her stream expecting somber, cool beauty-type songstress
>she's actually a cheerful person who struggles to not laugh at inappropriately
When something was even better than you expected.

>>2440737
I'll be honest. I can't think of a single vsinger who's actually a cool beauty, even if they have the voice for it. Unsurprisingly, if you're a vsinger, you're probably a massive dork and otaku.

https://youtu.be/7CW0QWDS_r4?t=2671

>>2440554
That was the Gamebu controversy, Cocoa 1st gen announced her retirement from vtubing due to wanting to focus on her band (AliA), with them going on tour soon after she did. It wasn't anything like the sudden replacements of the Gamebu VAs, in fact Ultimate even announced the reincarnation of Cocoa on a new channel themselves. There was barely any bad blood from fans concerning her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teUjVa7u1Ho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvgGCMX7G_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUa4VJFvtKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeDydiDYtPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUfAIJn3WWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCFoB6oSH_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2iHNgLJHk8

dropping what ive been listening to recently, Kyo's vocals pretty addicting. Kamitsubaki lineup is also really good, worth checking them out

>>2440785
holy fuck she's adorable, she has some nice song picks too
vocals are really good too, thanks anon

>>2330742
lazy piece of shit. why assume that someone else is going to do it for you? people make threads about interesting topics or because they really like their oshi. you clearly don't have either thing going on here so maybe you should reconsider your fucking life faggot. 4chan is not an entertainment box that just has threads. people make them to talk retard.

>>2440581
1.5k people disliked it as well. but you're right. the comments were supportive of the career of the new Cocoa.

>>2440785
the gap moe hits hard

>>2440785
hadn't heard someone sing an arrangement of pierrot like that before, seems like not many people sing the song generally though, or its just hard to find because you get karakuri pierrot instead

So many links, I don't even know where to start from. I remember liking that Blues guy (forgot his name) that was on AZKi's festival last year.

>>2449657
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ8cagu4nxWEhYy3XArC9oQ

Johnny Hennry is a pretty distinctive dude and band. As to where to start, you just pick ones that either someone described in a way that made it interesting to you or if you like the aesthetic of the thumbnail.

>>2329324
I want to feel Nomu's warm embrace so fucking bad bros

>>2455846
She's so erotic...

Has anyone tried any of Suntory's products?

>>2345928
Kaf still has a lot of room to grow, so it might be that she wants to focuses on her current singing style, on top of the producer's desires, and mastering it before she tries to move onto more styles as she matures as an artist, since she's young enough that she had to take a break to study for exams.

>>2460713
No, but the Yakuza games made them sound amazing. Some A+ advertising on their part.

>>2460683
What is that expression?

>>2455846
>>2460683
Her breathy speaking voice makes me diamonds

>scroll down to the comments on random Kaf video
>top comment is AZKi
>autoplays to next video
>top comment is AZKi
>next video
>top comment is AZKi

Man, she must have been disappointed to not participate in V-Carnival alongside her oshi.

>>2463346
Did AZKi ever actually do anything together with her?

>>2461541
Cool beauty

>>2464550
Stood very close on her music compilation poster

>>2403574
I'm not sure any vtuber music could really be considered mainstream successful yet. With vtuber music you are expecting sales in the thousands, mainstream hits are often hundreds of thousands or even millions.

>>2469476
Closest she's come is this video message, as far as I remember. https://youtu.be/_ZO4kkhzfKE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFXtUK2vCXE Kanade Mimi's having an acoustic concert with a live band to celebrate her birthday, and is going to be covering a bunch of songs from other girls like Mair as well as her own originals.

>>2471154
Oh damn thanks for the heads up

>>2471154
>live band
Nice. Whole thing seems pretty good especially for an indie.

>>2471590
Technically, she's not an indie since she's affiliated with the same company Fuji Aoi is, Smarprise, but the show is pretty amazing for how smalltime they are.

>>2471725
>>2471590
She deserves to get bigger imo

>>2469476
Honestly, that's still funny

Does Mimi focus more on her Tiktok than her YT?

>>2471909
Think it's just easier to go viral there with dancing clips, but 250k there and 15k on Youtube is insane to me.

>>2471725
Oh, really? Does it say anywhere? I might be blind but I can't find any info about it on her yt about section or Twitter.

>>2472048
Yea, it's not anywhere I could find on her channel, but it's listed on the wiki and it also takes you to a statement about her on their website. Maybe she left, but I don't see any announcement about that and someone has been faithfully logging her milestones so probably still with them. https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Kanade_MiMi

>>2470904
Cute!

>>2471955
TikTok is strong. Kizuna Ai making her return with growth on there but China.

>>2470797
Only Himehina and Rain Drops have gone over 10k so far not counting various artists albums and the rest tend to be around 3000-4000.

>>2472088
Both Aoi and Mimi left Smarprise last year and went independent, with tech support now being provided by Logic & Magic.

https://panora.tokyo/archives/8384
https://fujiaoi.com/contents/331237
https://logic-magic.co.jp/news/20200722/post-7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCHhj2YGlqY

Vsinger that hiromoot posted a while ago put out a cover of a Gems song.
https://youtu.be/IcxPyLRtkA4

So is YuNi being the "self-proclaimed world's first VSinger" in the same vein as Ai being the "self-proclaimed first VTuber?"

>>2460713
If you're in a bigger city with an Asian grocer or Japanese importer it shouldn't be too hard to find C.C. Lemon or Boss Coffee.

>>2479079
Aha, neat. Even cooler of her do that concert then.

Cocoa got me into vtubers.
I was sad to learn that she had already graduated a month by the time I discovered her. Even sadder when I learned about Gamebu and loved their content
This MV is still my favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElupIY4oE-k

>>2489186
Did any of the the OG Cocoa or any of the other Brave Group vtubers reincarnate or otherwise go on to do anything of note?

>>2489186
Did the OG Cocoa or any of the other Brave Group vtubers reincarnate or otherwise go on to do anything of note?

>>2489470
Iirc OG Cocoa is now in a band.

I don't know much about what happened to the Gamebu people

>>2489470
Three in Gamebu reincarnated. They dis-affliated with Hoshimeguri and have been doing their own thing. I'm not sure why Kuyuri never refers to Honami or Umi anymore though. Haruto never reincarnated.
The four did voice skits on a channel, but that was short-lived.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCW8Pyw_U1nWz7I3I97Ul_lg

https://twitter.com/yuka_n_RIOT/status/1381623148123144192

https://twitter.com/saki_ashizawa/status/1381809543030525952

New DUSTCELL song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Mw5nJZlqI

Akuma no Goat singing stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwGpwkI8dTU

New Cocoa cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjgpKzEUZA4

I wonder if this is the correct thread to ask this.
I'm looking for collab songs that feature multiple vtubers from multiple agencies + indies.
Something like these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw0GTp1DSs0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yeg4XkzrMI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqQLrla5pDI

>>2509067
https://youtu.be/35fKzdDH654

Technically 2 indies kek

>>2509067
Sure, why not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwRIT09bhkw

>>2509188
>>2509120
Thanks for the replies, but I'm looking for larger collabs. Something like 10+ chuubas.
Should've specified it more.

>>2509067
Probably not exactly what you're looking for, but HimeHina's Mr. Virtualizer featured a ton of VTubers as background dancers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mR5y5DAVSg

Feel like this should have blown up more since I imagine it must not have been easy to organize this.

>>2509562
Yeah, not exactly what I'm looking for. I want the chuubas to sing.
Also, if I'm not wrong, only the models were provided for Mr.Virtualizer. So it was essentially just HimeHina and no one else was involved..

>>2441389
Ultimate? you mean Unlimited?
they changed their name btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBmmvZ0smaQ

Surprised ViANKiE doesn't get mentioned more often, she was one of the standout indies during AZKi's Fes, both for being a good singer and for having a very distinctive voice. She really shined on her lounge styled original.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76rMbG0Z2Hk

>>2509067
Asano Ruri have multiple collab songs with different vtubers, some of most notable ones
https://youtube.com/watch?v=axZ9LYMvrPo
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AW7HXLmSdQA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fBh12rFjms8

MonsterZ Mate are also fond of doing collab songs with other vtubers>>2408327

>>2509471
Iirc, fukuya master used to have videos of a lot of vtubers singing like the piroparu one, but he privated most of them. Here's one that survived
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h3F8Dqi1kgQ

>>2521450
I appreciate the effort mates, but this isn't exactly what I'm looking for. Or maybe the songs aren't to my liking. I don't know.
I'm pretty shit at explaining things, so I'll just use the word "unity". Chuubas coming together and having fun. Stuff like that.

>>2521783
This is closer to what I'm looking for. Thanks.
Funny to see Akkun taking part.

>>2522193
You might have some luck looking for cyphers, which is the name for a big rap collab, but organizing a bunch of people for a single song is pretty rare since it's a lot of work and you'd get better return doing a bunch of smaller collabs. There's things like VirtuaReal where you have a collab album by a bunch of different agencies and indies, but that's not what you're looking for I assume.

Normally if you have a lot, it's only on a choral chorus like in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk_t1uuY-_w or >>2416444 and you have only one or two main singers for the verses.

>>2522389
>organizing a bunch of people for a single song is pretty rare
Yeah, I know. When it happens it's pretty great, and that's why I'm searching for songs like that.
And no, VirtuaReal isn't exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks tho.

>>2522325
Speaking of Akkun, maybe this song from his old defunct group is what you're looking for?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-aZoNc48ZL0

Can you guys point me towards AZKi's indie collab live you guys keep mentioning?

>>2523789
Playlist - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRbKF4l1YzIPngmPmMyWj53GG30_Y1GRy
Text list - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/197f2o8iBIPPUcK7ponqO18g5ZWcAyWq7DO33U3hLzOw/htmlview?pru=AAABeG4M8XE*MTzegwnXGjKey2Oq2lRP8g#

I don't know if the indies who performed live on the 3rd day got archived somewhere. It was more of a festival then a Live for the most part, though since it was just playing MV after MV for 72 hours, but there was a 2 hour concert by AZKi where she covered a bunch of the other people's songs and then the virtual Entas Live on the following day. AZKi's concert still seems to be privated for some reason, but the frog said they're working on it and there is an archive in the archives if you dig.

>>2523878
Greatly appreciated my dude. Also I wonder what AZKi plans to do from here on out. Was pretty interesting to learn from her recent live that it was always planned for her to have graduated around next year, but she's now decided against it.

>>2523927
Probably the same thing she's been doing this year. Stream once or twice a week, do concerts when she can, and crank out music like the lovable studio autist that she is. I do think we're going to see her interacting with the rest of Hololive more, so maybe we'll get a bunch more duets and covers. I was surprised to hear her say that the AZKi project was originally intended to have an expiration date, but I'm very glad she's found a reason to stick around.

>>2523927
>Also I wonder what AZKi plans to do from here on out
She will undoubtedly keep her focus on music but will also start to take part in other activities that will let her build and directly engage a larger audience. The reason that's important is because even before the Internet, music was never just about the music itself; your appearance, personality, and image are at least as important. If you have an audience who likes your stage persona, then it's possible they will care about your music even if it's not the sort of thing they would normally enjoy.

>>2523927
Actually, I don't know if the link in the archives still works, so here. Go watch it on her channel whenever it gets out of permissions hell, though! https://mega.nz/file/UUJUDRDC#bi9KkONZNcZSjwMUK6i9-uTT314QTFAsxjT9Vvaedpg

>>2509067
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBK0qEtPTw

>>2521450
Those Sound Horizon covers are real bangers.

Does anyone know the name of the eurobeat idols that was featured on Azki's MV marathon?

>>2536365
Marinasu?

is there an archive for the Re:Volt of Riot Music? just asking.

>>2534402
Makes sense since it's quite the collection of singers. I wonder how they got together.

New Saki cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55lpME9EAkM

So how big is Gems, really? I know AZKi was pretty thrilled to be working with them and they've got some pretty stellar production as you might guess from people being under the SQE brand, but they've got much lower subs numbers then I would expect for being backed by such a multimedia giant. Are they just big on NND, or did SQE not do a great job of advertising them?

>>2558770
Looking at oricon their first major album released near the end of last year was in the chart for one week and sold 1,691 cds in that week. So probably don't have some hidden huge fanbase somewhere else. Maybe she just likes their work and respects them as artists/idols?

It really feels like the whole VSinger / virtual music artist sphere is underrated or just not known as well compared to dime a dozen variety streamer VTuber.

>>2561627
I mean, it's a niche within a niche, but Don't Stop the Music shows that there's a whole lot of them out there. Conversely, though, there are even more variety streamers. As to being underrated, it's hard to judge, since you do have the girls of Kamitsubaki getting 10s of millions of views because they're both well marketed and very talented, and even the Hologirls and bigger Nijis pulling millions as well. While they may not be competing with the big names in the music industry, that's still some pretty resounding success for any musician, especially for a media that's largely limited to the Japanese market.

>>2509471
Here's an older one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moKQDRZCCEw

What do you think about utaites turned vtubers like 96neko and Amatsuki? Do they count as a vsinger?

>>2558770
It depends on your perspective and frame of reference. If you're coming in at this phenomenon through Hololive or Kizuna Ai, those are major outliers, and even then Hololive only really started taking off in 2019. Before that, even getting past 10k-20k subs were big numbers for any Vtuber. Also, but another aspect for "Vtuber idols" is historically the more traditional idol streaming service is DeNA's SHOWROOM, not Youtube so much.

>>2562542
Yea, I'm aware those are some pretty outlier numbers, but I also compare them to some of the smaller companies or indies in this thread and they're also comparable if not far surpassed in subs despite being around longer and having a big company behind them. I guess Gems does have a couple of really high view videos on their main channel despite the low sub numbers, but it's still strange to me.

>>2562421
Why wouldn't they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGIdbMJ5rbg mea/mair karaoke stream

>>2502838
I'll have to listen to that later. He's really good. But Mea-chan takes priority.

Do I have a problem?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyvmDbc_2XaJBjoqOrMFG9J_PNc9uj6rS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipwP-C7mTzc

YuNi is releasing a new album. I see YUC'e, Nor, Giga, and Dj Tekina//Something among the song producer listed there.

https://youtu.be/SZ_mJpaq4XQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzt9i3AQCzQ

>>2572771
based Romanian

>>2576693
Kairiki Bear did that Darling Dance song a lot of people covered recently and Venom, and Hachioji-P Kimagure Mercy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_0GJAa9W1E

https://youtu.be/s5UBteO-CGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtVtXzezIEA

>>2578864
God bless Yomi. She reminds me of Towa with how much power she's able to effortlessly put into her voice.

Shill an indy?
https://youtu.be/sS9Yj2oP3Pg

>>2577497
I'm American.

>>2581387
Needs less autotune.

>>2576694
>Check out the lyrics in the description
Kusumoto bros...
Please tell me we're all going to make it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjqp82aQ4WY
New vsinger, has a nice voice, posted two covers so far.

>>2602637
Not my cup of tea, but I'm glad you like her anon!

>>2603793
Same. Her timing seems a bit sloppy.

>>2604546
Her cover of Gira Gira was a bit too flat for me, and considering she seems to be sponsored by a company, this is unexcusable

>>2605116
>unexcusable
its just a vtuber

>>2605208
I'm mostly talking about the Company part. The Vtuber herself is fine.

If this is the best they can find for (what I assume) is a music based Talent, they have a long way ahead of them.

I'm willing to give them a chance though, maybe they see something in her that I haven't in the covers available on her channel

>>2602634
most of his stuff is like that... to take a verse from another song
>やる気無い 死ぬ気も無い これのどこが生きてるんだろう
>居ても居なくても変わらない 何も変わらない 世の中は
>もしも僕が消えても 空は無関心で

>>2605208
There are better ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze8ZmCH_Ems

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTIzYZ4krfU
Meika's Ready Made cover

https://youtu.be/cKUf718RpiY

>>2581387
Eh. Sounds okay.

Preview of Hachi's 4th single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dt_5G44MoU

>>2612768
A return to the style of her first two. Fucking dope. 20 was good, but I like her less pop styled songs better.

Yuka's 1st original song: https://youtu.be/GXyKCBIN_o0

Does anyone else support?

>>2618424
I member AZKi and buy the music that I like from indies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iczWpwcZvo new Valis song
>>2618424
I've bought some music from Booth

In a few hours
https://youtu.be/cHaF5L5mJwQ
>>2618424
No and not planning. However I am getting https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21050118-TO8

>>2612768
I can't wait to see Hachi try singing this song live and flub it because she just starts laughing halfway through.

>>2612768
>MikitoP of Vocaloid fame did the composition
This Queen Bee is moving up in the world

>>2605116
She's not a part of any company though. She's a part of group of independents.
https://marble-creators.live

This concert is happening next weekend: https://virtual.spwn.jp/events/21042518-livefrontier
A live stream from all members in a few hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL0CCcKgots
Some songs from everyone taking part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sgSubHf-uo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enLqygd4Ppk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6_e3M3z7vU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecTQFCGouQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbTyVwWiMj8