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What is /asp/?

A thread for aspiring vtubers! Whether your goal is to make the journey as an independent streamer or to gain experience and build a portfolio for agency auditions. Let's help each other grow and make it. Indies are welcome to selfpost, but shill responsibly. Share your knowledge, insights, feedback, discuss what has worked and what hasn't worked for you. And always remember to do your research before posting personally identifying information. That includes both in this thread and in your audition applications to agencies.

FAQ:
>Do I need a fully rigged model to be a vtuber?
Nope! You can get started as a simple .png character!

>I want to learn how to rig Live2D models, where do I go?
Brian Tsui (of Iron Vertex), Kira Omori and the official Live2D YouTube channels have many tutorials available.

>Where can I find artists/riggers?
vtuber.gg, ArtStation, DeviantArt, Twitter, Reddit, Skeb.jp, etc.

>I just want to get started, can I buy pre-made models?
Yes! Live2D models can be purchased off nizima.com (Live2D's official marketplace) or booth.pm (general Japanese indie artist website). Be sure to check compatibility with your facial tracking software!

>Where can I learn how to digital market myself?
https://learndigital.withgoogle.com/digitalgarage

>Where can I find some good games to stream?
https://twitchtracker.com/games
https://sullygnome.com/

>Twitch or YouTube?
The general rule of thumb is Twitch if your content is primarily based on livestreaming and YouTube if your content is primarily pre-recorded and edited.

>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

Pastebin Guides and Resources:

General: https://pastebin.com/AJLkFrGK
OpSec Guide: https://pastebin.com/uALiNZCV
Twitter Networking: https://controlc.com/9eba2fbc
"avoid doing this shit": https://pastebin.com/vbp6qEdt
Social media branding: https://pastebin.com/jVERSLqG
Take with a grain of salt Parasocial Guide : https://pastebin.com/zmpCResg
Google Doc of Assets and Resources: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQHyRDZ3nxlIINfZz_wWCbgQ9gR4OgbTFhyGwq45DseUixkJJKbUmhPjnkWcmh7dOCDdxObAZXv_zti/pubhtml

Hololive Auditions have opened up to males
https://en.hololive.tv/audition

Wactor Auditions have opened up for males
http://wactor.tech/news/pre-entry-boys-vtuber-audition/

Stay grounded, stay hopeful

>> No.23834223

Last thread because you keep on forgetting
>>23788399

>> No.23834266

Ah, sorry. I also missed some embeds too.

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D

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>>23831736
I tried a couple things, but honestly it was very janky because everything for android is in development. Pic is VIRTU (alpha release for android) screencasted to my laptop.
Not hearing my fan is nice, but... there's a lose in quality and I couldn't figure how to get into landscape mode.
Now this might sound a bit silly but what if you had a separate laptop that you used with a webcam...

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i love you /asp/friends!

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I'm gonna embarrass myself in 10 minutes by hitting the Go live button!
https://www.twitch.tv/kawazu_shoutarou

>> No.23835114

>>23834223
Who even does these threads? Is it always the same person or are they just copy & paste whenever they feel like?

>> No.23835182

>OBS on Linux comes as either a shitpak, or as an outdated package in ubuntu repos
How hard would it be to just stream with ffmpeg alone?

>> No.23835355

What’s the hot new games that everyone’s getting into right now?
Thinking Switch Sports might be fun

>> No.23835612

>>23835355
Switch Sports is pretty much dead. No hype at all. Elden Ring is still a pretty good pick

>> No.23835683

>>23835355
Been noticing chuubas playing the Bioshock series recently

>> No.23836332

>>23835182
Why the fuck are you using Ubuntu if you want updated packages? Switch to Manjaro, or Fedora if you want a comprise between being up to date and stability

>> No.23836455

>>23834783
HERE COME DAT BOI

>> No.23836536

/asp/ies among us collab when?

>> No.23836945

>>23836536
Sus

>> No.23837824

Do you have or want to have a mascot or two with yourself model? Why or why not?

>> No.23837830

>>23834492
Miyo can I breed you? Unironically.

>> No.23838004

>>23837830
That’s Marbu’s art, not Miyo
But I would love a design by Miyochan though

>> No.23838099

>>23834783
I like it so far, an hour in and you're from what I can see, despite an hour in, providing a running commentary on what you're thinking and doing. Good sign.
It's engaging.
Try being female or using a voice changer and you'll make it easy.

>> No.23838158

>>23838004
Ewwwww.
>Marbu

>> No.23838229

>>23838158
Rude

>> No.23838253

>>23838099
no more babis please I like the frog guy as is

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>>23838229
Kekku sorry.

>> No.23838352

How much reference pictures you sent to your artist for the character sheet commission(assuming you can't draw of course)?

>> No.23838516

>>23837824
i am the mascot

>> No.23838563

>>23838516
konrad-chaama...

>> No.23838792

>>23838516
I will have sex with the witch and you'll watch
I'm sorry, I don't really any ill intent, it's the brain parasite acting up again

>> No.23838795

>>23838516
Goo goo g’joob
Great, now I have to listen to that song again, it’s in my brain-chama

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>>23838563
thats me!

>>23838792
i literally don't blame you

>>23838795
kek

>> No.23839008

What twitter tags do you guys use? Is #VtuberUprising still worth tagging your tweet with?

>> No.23839027

>>23838312
I wanna have sex with this character.
the voice can watch.

>> No.23839087

>>23839008
just type #vtub and pick the top three from the suggestions. It's auto sorted based on popularity

>> No.23839092

/asp/craft when

>> No.23839127

>>23839092
start one and those interested will join

>> No.23839133

>>23839087
tyvm anon

>> No.23839136

>>23838352
As many as you need. If you have a lot then start seperating them into "I really want stuff like X" and "I kinda like stuff from Y" because they won't be able to include absolutely everything but that doesn't mean you shouldn't provide it all as inspiration.

>> No.23839142

Made it to 200 followers, I know it's not much but getting there in 3 months feels big to me.

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>>23839142
Good work, anon! Hope you're having fun in the process!

>> No.23839276

it's mothers day /asp/! make sure to tell your mom you love her if you're on good terms with her :)

>> No.23839300

>>23827376
I guess you're right, that's probably one of my biggest issues, i have extremely low tolerance to failure/frustration and if i don't see any progress, i want to move on to something else completely different inmediately. I'm surprised i lasted this long streaming(I think later this month it turns into 8 months), and to some extent 3D modelling, where after 4 years i'm still the 3D equivalent of an /ic/beg

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>>23839127
Maybe this might be the time for me to make a Linode server… I’ll have to look into the costs etc.
Also should be fine for me to use my regular email etc.? I’ll have to check that too. Also buy a domain for ease of use.
I need to finish my pics…

>> No.23839455

>>23839273
Yeah, I'm really happy doing this!! Plus I'll be getting my first payout from twitch in a few days, so I'll be investing in a new mic which I'm crazy excited for...
>>23839276
Taking her out for brunch, got her some new flowers for her garden as well. She said it was one of the best gifts she's gotten in a while hehe

>> No.23839768

Something helpful to add to the /asp/ie link list, maybe a blurb to describe what the channel is like.

>> No.23839853

>>23839300
Here, use this to drill the hiragana and katakana
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/kana.html
Test yourself, take a 30-60 minute break, re-test yourself. You're going to make it.
As for the 3D, things take time, but you can go faster if you reflect on your weakness and try new approaches. Four years weren't a waste, it gave you a foundation and will make it easier if you every become serious about it.
Now stop being a menhera, goddamn menheras...

>> No.23839965

>>23839768
We should probably have a week with disclaimers in the OP like: "we are currently compiling /asp/ies, if you post your link here it will be added into the list" as a way to filter those who want themselves in the list vs. not. We can update it every so often by putting that statement in the OP again to let people know the recording period is open again.

>> No.23840120

/asp/ies with good zatsu skills? For me it's Ain and Kaiser

>> No.23840146

>>23839027
Not a very patrician take! I would sex the actor who plays the role!
Not the other way around...

>> No.23840405

>>23839965
no one reads the OP, otherwise we wouldn't have a thousand "would people watch X content/chuuba" or "how do i opsec" every thread.

>> No.23840523

>>23840120
Kaiser for babis and Zun for males. Mashi was pretty talkative when I caught her streams, but I think the best actual zatsu for females is up in the air for me. I actually wasn't aware there were that many femchuubas /here/ until I saw the list yesterday.

>> No.23840538

>>23838352
I sent in a bunch for most everything like body type, clothes, and accessories.
The one thing I didn't have a ref for/a good description for was the face and it turned out a bit more androgynous than I originally thought, but desu it probably fits my voice better

>> No.23840540

>>23839853
Idk how you knew i wanted to learn japanese for some time but thanks. As for 3D, yeah, it probably wasn't a complete waste of time, and it's not too late to take it seriously. Now i guess i'll stop being a menhera, just needed to get it out of my system

>> No.23840563

>>23840523
>Mashi was pretty talkative when I caught her streams
Bro you are insane.

>> No.23840637

>>23840523
>Mashi was pretty talkative
I don't hate Mashi but this is just not true

>> No.23840995

>>23840120
Male - Zun
Female - AinGStalt
Babi - Kaiser

>> No.23841382

Kaiser love poppin' off. How can this guy be such a menhera fag with all this PURE love?

>> No.23841607

>>23841382
Because nobody here who says they like him actually shows up to his streams. Such is the bad luck of being trapped in the circlejerk cycle.

>> No.23841809

>>23841607
You can be a likable person but be boring as fuck on stream.

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finally continuing parappa https://www.twitch.tv/ricecakevs

>> No.23842021

>>23841607
t. doesn't watch any aspies and projecting

>> No.23842030

>>23841607
Kaiser... Come back once you've stopped being menhera.

>> No.23842417

>>23841607
I watch him from time to time but his stuff is very niche, there's so much rpg maker stuff I can watch before it starts feeling samey.

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>>23842030
He will comeback once he's done with therapy

>> No.23842706

>>23834783
Thank to everyone that came! I was so nervous. my accent was all over the place.

>> No.23842716

>>23842626
LMAO that's such a pathetic thing to post on Twitter

>> No.23842775

>>23842716
it's kinda funny, it has banger tweet potential i think

>> No.23842800

>>23842706
Gud strim. See ya next time frog man

>> No.23842832

>>23842626
>>23842716
I became a VTuber instead of going to therapy so I think this is a common experience

>> No.23842843

>>23842716
It has meme material. If a big indie tweeted that you wouldn't say the same thing

>> No.23842929

>>23842706
you were good, my dude

>> No.23842941

>>23842626
Yeah if someone with a big following posted this they'd either get an outpouring of support )and marketing) because "take mental health seriously omg" or it'd do well as a shitpost tweet because menhera vtuber funny.

>> No.23842963

>>23842716
I just rephrased another viral-ish tweet that went something like "males be like imma become a vtuber before going to therapy"

i can't find anything to stream today, but i'll have menhera monday with more of a structure this time, because another anon didn't like my infinite tangent works, fair enough i guess.

>> No.23843825

>>23842963
I mean all your tweets read like you have crippling depression so it's hard to see it as a joke

>> No.23844252

>>23843825
I didn't say it was a joke, you are free to interpret however you would like. I have no ulterior goal behind my tweets, other than trying to give an accurate representation of myself.

>> No.23844389

>>23844252
kaiser...

>> No.23844582

>>23844252
>trying to give an accurate representation of myself.
there's a million chuubas that just use twitter for depression posting and venting. you'll never grow if a viewer manages to stumble on your page and sees you complaining about life all the time. make a private second account if you must but leave your whining off your main vtuber brand account.

>> No.23844622

>>23844252
Idk what you want, you menhera for no good reason.

>> No.23844875

>>23844582
I agree with them. If you want to shit out your thoughts do it on a private that's not associated with your chuuba account. Viewers watch vtubers to escape their depression and feel good at least for a few minutes a day. You're ruining the mood for everyone who's following you...

>> No.23844879

Whos streaming right now?

>> No.23844990

>>23844879
from /asp/?
flavorful is doing some yakuza kiwami 2
https://www.twitch.tv/flavorful
ricecake is doing parappa
https://www.twitch.tv/ricecakevs
bloom is holding a choir rehearsal
https://www.twitch.tv/profbloomvtuber

>> No.23845016

>>23844990
God's work. Thanks, anon.

>> No.23845383

>>23844875
That makes sense, i don't think my personality is fit for providing that sort of escapism. I'd be more suited for a friend than an entertainer, but i gravitate towards isolation a lot more than engaging with people, so this is the middle ground.

>> No.23845750

>>23842843
>>23842775
Ehhhh lol /asp/

>> No.23845815

the dumbest part is that you know if any of the big indies tweeted that out, they'd get a thousand likes and a hundred comments. half from people playing along with the joke and the other have genuinely concerned and wanting to help out. maybe a paypig or two dropping another $200 dono into their paypals.

>> No.23845886

>>23845815
You people can not be serious with this shit. :| Why are you encouraging this behavior

>> No.23845916

>>23845886
not encouraging. just saying that Bao depression tweets daily and gets tens of thousands of likes.

>> No.23846026

>>23845886
No one's encouraging it. People are just stating what they observe.

>> No.23846066

>>23845886
It's true though? Menhera tweeting if you already have a following is potentially good marketing and if you don't have a following the same exact tweet will hurt your growth.

>> No.23846077

>>23845916
>Bao
when you get to 200k followers on twitter you can depression tweet yourself. until then keep that shit off your timeline. the average viewer who watches indies aren't looking for that crap.

>> No.23846224

>>23845815
That's called having an audience

>> No.23846341

>Well if he were a minor eceleb this would be fine, good even!

:| /asp/ come on.

>> No.23846398

>>23846341
it's true

>> No.23846501

>>23846341
If you're gonna be one of those "cmon /asp/" anons please fuck off early we got a lot of those already. Let people discuss shit.

>> No.23846599

>>23846501
But not me; I can’t discuss shit. No wrongthink.

>> No.23846699

>>23846599
>faced with valid points
>you can't be serious /asp/
>cmon /asp/
No input. No counter argument. You're just insufferable

>> No.23846866

>>23846501
Nta but what's there to discuss? If you're popular, there are more people that will see your content. Not trying to police a conversation it juat seems like there's no conversation to have. It's like saying

>Yeah you never come.close to your payout threshold but if you were a vuber with 500 viewers you'd get it all the time

It's just a matter of fact, like it's not unfair or strange or out of the ordinary at all.

>> No.23846932

>>23846699
My input was that this attitude sucks and doesn’t really do anything good for any aspiring vtubers reading the thread.
I think it’s patently stupid to say shit like “it works for someone with an audience so it’s okay” with stuff like being performatively mentally ill on the internet.

>> No.23846991

I hate a handful of you motherfuckers in /asp/ so much. You’re boring and suck at this, and you’re happy to make sure that other people are just as boring, vapid and unentertaining as you are.

Frog guy seemed cool!

>> No.23847018

>>23846932
No one really said it's okay though, just that it works for the big indies. They get huge engagement doing it

>> No.23847034

>>23846991
No one here has any real influence on anyone else's content.

>> No.23847051

>>23846991
:(

>> No.23847068

>>23846501
Discuss what? It's not even dumb like the anon initially said. Of course your see more engagement if you're bigger it's common sense.

>> No.23847073

>>23846991
I like frog guy too! He's very good for his first stream

>> No.23847109

>>23847034
That isn’t true.

>> No.23847275

>>23847109
How? Things people say here should only be taken into consideration, a suggestion at best, not as fact. If people are willing to believe anything a random, unidentifiable and likely unsuccessful person on 4chan says and let them manipulate them into making certain content it's on them.

>> No.23847371

>>23847275
You just agreed with me.

>> No.23847375

>>23846932
>doesn’t really do anything good for any aspiring vtubers reading the thread.
if you're this thick in the fucking head and don't know how to take lessons from these comments kill yourself right now.

the takeaway lesson is obvious. stop being such a downer and shitting your own branding on twitter by depression posting. other chuubas have success but they have a large audience that cares for them. build that audience first before you depression post.

you're that schizofaggot who bitches about how everything isn't perfectly laid out in a step by step list on how to succeed. you need everything to be summed in a nice big checklist that you want to follow and get a million subs. choke on rocks and die.

>> No.23847396

>>23847275
you kinda just agreed to his point

>>23847371
ay jinx lol

>> No.23847441

>>23847375
No, I’m not that guy. I don’t like that guy either.
You are quite mad and do not stream.

>> No.23847503

>>23847375
Hi angry anon, for the first time I agree with you and I hate to admit it. Keep being mad for me.

>> No.23847539

a violent day in /asp/ today

captch: p2wtx ... pay to win texas?

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Hm thread no bueno today..

>> No.23847559

>>23820822
I really wonder if selfposting on this board is worth it, especially as a male with a male avatar

>> No.23847590

>>23847559
>worth it
what would you define as "worth it"?

>> No.23847593

>>23847559
It genuinely is not.

>> No.23847622

>>23847559
It's nice to have the initial few viewers instead of streaming to literally no one. But then again, you can just shill elsewhere, which is probably the better choice.

>> No.23847656

>>23847556
You remind me of anyaposter. Anyone knows what happened to him?

>> No.23847661

>>23847371
>>23847396
A random on 4chan telling you to spend a month learning how to draw cat ears isn't a person of influence, the people that listen are just retards who will listen to literally anyone.

>> No.23847662

there is absolutely no reason not to self-post along with posting anywhere else you could reasonably get viewers from. be an unabashed shiller. let everyone see your name. write it in the clouds

>> No.23847693

>>23847559
Are you asking if taking the literal seconds out of your day it takes to copy and paste a link is "worth it"? There's no downside and you could've done it in the time you took to ask.

>> No.23847716

>>23847656
Probably got busy and left without looking back. The thread is just five different people screaming “I’M RIGHT!!!” a lot of the time.

>> No.23847743

>>23847661
And my point is that the people dispensing the advice are well aware of the fact that they’re talking to retards, so they do have a little bit of influence.

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I thought with how much you guys name drop this a2u guy he'd be big or have good stream content but I was tricked

>> No.23847747

Is dog anon still /here/? I want to ask about commissions from him but I'm too scared to DM him first. I'm a autist in the way that I need permission to DM someone or I feel anxious. Please save me.

>> No.23847754

>>23847661
Just because it's 4chan doesn't the opinions here less worth the consideration. I've received game suggestions, stream feedback, and some other useful resources from people here. All the good advice sort of shaped my content. Not in a huge way but still. Side note, I don't get why people who hate this thread hang out here to bash on it.

>> No.23847790

>>23847754
4am typos but you get what I mean

>> No.23847795

>>23847747
i get it i really do anon but just dm him if you need it done

>> No.23847812

>>23847590
Getting viewers without attracting a bunch of schizos. Posting in /wvt/ spooks the hell out of me for that exact reason.

>> No.23847822

>>23847754
I don't hate the thread, my point is no one here has any concrete influen. As you said, they're suggestions you decided to take and were likely smart enough to filter the retarded ones

>> No.23847826

>>23847747
You're gonna have to DM people a lot in this hobby so grow an early pair and just message him

>> No.23847841

>>23847812
Twitter, Reddit and TikTok.

>> No.23848053

>>23847812
While I do think you should advertise outside of 4chan, you're going to have to accept that the majority of people who watch vtubers are schizos

>> No.23848066

>>23847812
The worst that could happen is someone not like your content so they say a few mean things about you, but I know some people aren't able to deal with that early on

>> No.23848170

>>23847812
I don't think i have ever had any person from /wvt/ click on my stream when i post it, so your fears might be unwarranted.

>> No.23848402

>>23847812
Real aspies are only active in /asp/. Don't be a fake aspie and show some loyalty.

>> No.23848428

>>23847746
They just like the model design.
Also it’s still early days for them.

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silly lady now 99% complete

>> No.23848566

>>23848531
i will now collab with you by force

>> No.23848710

>>23848531
Are /asp/ies even trying anymore? How can you think this low-quality thing is enough? This looks like someone downloaded gimp a week ago and vomited over the screen. Please, try a bit more...

>> No.23848711

>>23848402
That is the unspoken rule, isn't it?

>> No.23848780

>>23848710
fuck you crab

>> No.23848788

>>23848710
>Please, try a bit more...
without specific actionable feedback this type of opinion can be discarded and safely ignored as another bad viewerfag take

>> No.23848870

>>23848710
I think it has charm.. why are you so mad anon?
>>23848531
don't listen to the crab. I hope you succeed!

>> No.23848883

>>23848710
I really hope you're not the same fucker that complained about /asp/ opinions

>> No.23848907

>>23848531
babiniku?

>> No.23848922

>>23848710
Crabchama, at least TRY to make it unclear what you're trying.

>> No.23848951

>>23848531
Hi muppet anon. Don't forget the mouth open png.

>> No.23848984

>>23848870
>don't listen to the crab. I hope you succeed!
This shit is why you guys sit at 0 viewers for months

>> No.23849003

>>23848883
Nope, that's me.

>> No.23849057

Crab detection reps! Will you give him you's?

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>>23848710
If you're going to be a crab, at least make a good attempt. Content is what matters in the end.

>> No.23849193

>>23848984


>>23849143
/asp/ies would've told this person that they're ngmi solely off the model, don't act like you know a single thing about who is and isn't going to make it.

>> No.23849274

This thread and the regular posters here suck so much

>> No.23849319
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>>23848907
no, although it seems like babis are pretty common in this general
>>23848951
i have prepared multiple mouths! not sure how often i'll use some of them but they were fun to make
captcha: MGAY8

>> No.23849327

>>23849274
i like angryanon and drunkmanagerchama. ignore the weird schizo parts and they have half decent advice.

>> No.23849410

>>23849327
The good advice at this point doesn't seem like anything that I haven't just figured out my own, and even then it's pretty few and far between so I should probably just quit reading these

>> No.23849425

>>23849319
Nice! Set hotkeys to those and you can have an expression set.
Nice captcha

>> No.23849434

I don't want aspies to watch me because I feel their time is better spent doing reps or streaming

>> No.23849469

>>23849434
You are a saint. And you're right.
It's very circlejerky over here lately.

>> No.23849473

>>23849327
Last time drunkchama was here they didn't get any you's lol

>> No.23849475

>>23849410
honestly just sounds like you've gotten all you can and or need to from /asp/. this place really isn't that great for content. at best it's good for technically issues, hardware suggestions and getting that first initial push of motivation to get the ball rolling.

>> No.23849555

>>23846991
>>23847073

Aw, stop, you're gonna make me blush.

>> No.23849577

>>23849475
Yeah, you're right. More often then not I just get angry reading most of what is posted here now

>> No.23849620

>>23849143
>>23849193
This and the peanut is why I think caranon should ganbatte as he is.

>> No.23849689

What are some content examples that don’t involve a live2D or 3D model?

>> No.23849720

>>23849689
ASMR

>> No.23849766

>>23849620
Having a raccoon sister helped the peanut.

>> No.23850264

>>23847559
dropping links help you get affiliate but everything after that requires you to be actually good at what you're doing. There are vtubers on reddit and twitter that streamed for half a year just to get affiliate and they are better streamers than most of the /asp/ starting out.

>> No.23850487

>>23850264
You basically just need to hit a baseline of quality on stream and then its up to you how many you get to click on your stream. Need to do both otherwise it won't work.

>> No.23850524

>>23849720
And what if ASMR isn’t a thing you want or can do?

>> No.23850623

>>23849689
What do you mean? Nothing requires an avatar, it's just a brand so viewers can identify you. Or something nice to look at.

>> No.23850814

>>23849689
Are you asking what you can do with a PNG? It all depends on how good it is and your variation of expressions. A simple bust PNG can't really do much, at that point you're just a webcamless streamer with a static avatar, like Bahroo before he became a Vtuber. Your content is your personality and your voice, nothing more really.

>> No.23850827

>>23850524
go look up different types of streams by trad webcam content creators and see what ideas you can steal from them.

>> No.23850924

>>23850827
And what if I’m trying to make non-streamed content as well as streamed and edited videos?

>> No.23850990
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23850990

If I'm making a model, is there a downside to doing ARKit blendshapes? (apart from added work)

>> No.23851030

>>23850924
Rantsonas have existed for at least a decade at this point. There's a million to choose from.

>> No.23851085

>>23850990
Apart from added work, no. If you end up not liking how they look you can always go back to the standard AIUEO syllable ones assuming you made them with no issue.

>> No.23851100

>>23850924
then... do it? i don't understand what you're trying to ask or say here. did you somehow miss the last 10 years of Youtube content development?

>> No.23851189

>>23851100
You forgot, /asp/ies don't watch any content that isn't a Hololive or a few random indies who are completely fresh to content creation. Asking an /asp/ie to "watch other streamers" or "check out existing content creators" will just be met with confusion.

>> No.23851278

>>23851189
We are on the Hololive board after all. And with it being the newest board on the website it has the highest population of new people desperate to inure themselves to the perceived board culture.

>> No.23851365

>rants (must watch out for going full menhera)
>Rankings/tierlist
>art
>meme replications
>random (terrible) karaoke clips
>audio clips (ASMR, happy/inspiring/ganbatte etc.)
>Anything you would normally do as yourself but related to being a vtuber or a streamer like programming projects etc.
Anything else?

>> No.23851579

>>23851189
i hate how true this is. at the very least aspies should go through channels like Alpha Gaming that teach you the basics and things to consider when you start streaming. being a vtuber isn't a revolutionary new form of entertainment.

>> No.23851693

>>23851365
For content? General click bait that is guaranteed to be watched by a large react streamer.

>> No.23851713

>>23851579
Alpha/Senpai Gaming
Stream Scheme
Epos Vox
Three I can think of on top of my head
Inneed to watch some of the videos on stream content ideas/etc. to drill it into my thick skull.

>> No.23851826

>>23851693
>react videos
That’s also a good idea, will need to figure out what I want to react to and actually find clips or try to get the <1/2 of the followers that I have on Twitter/Twitch to submit things. (So maybe 3 or 4 people lol)

>> No.23851895

>>23851579
>>23851189
It's not that complicated, it hasn't really changed much in years. Many people will say that the content on Youtube has become oversaturated with trash content and then still watch it. This is less about teaching people things they don't know and more about getting them to do it and drink the kool-aid. People need to get themselves to the point that they do stuff for traffic.

>> No.23852146

Cordy doing a 4 babi left4dead2 collab rn

>> No.23852406

>>23852146
disgusting

>> No.23852434

Enough babis, do better /asp/

>> No.23852461

>>23848531
Not crazy about models that cover the eyes. Limits the expressiveness.

>> No.23852476

>>23852146
how horrifying, I better not miss it

>> No.23852478

>>23851895
>People need to get themselves to the point that they do stuff for traffic.
I think this is one of the biggest hurdles, most people still here aren't thinking for themselves. They're doing whatever content other aspies and randoms suggest they do. Rarely do we get someone in here that's got a half-decent foundation and is just looking for some direction or suggestions, it's almost always "what do i stream, what do i do, do i need an overlay, do I need this, what about my design, my design!" when most of that information is readily available either via looking at other creators (not even just the big ones) or looking around to see what is and isn't working.

People here seem to want a lot of the work done for them when the "work" consists of people googling things to begin with.

>> No.23852489

>>23852434
asp actually stands for autogynephilic sex perverts

>> No.23852494
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23852494

chroma key is a funny filter

>> No.23852512

>>23852406
I agree
>>23852476
Yeah it's a sight to behold

>> No.23852550

>>23852146
but if you collab with all the babis you'll have no real viewers!

>> No.23852558

>>23852494
Full kayfabe admiral

>> No.23852625

>>23852478
Yeah, I remember being new here, typing a question and going like "wait a sec I can just look this shit up". These days I'm usually just here to give encouragements when people actually stream

>> No.23852681

>>23852625
same boat. i'm basically here to just motivate other aspies

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>>23852558
I might be inclined to use this effect for some stream, this could be a cool horror themed zatsudan.

>> No.23853033

I've been wanting to become a vtuber, but I'm somewhat stuck regarding how to get started. I was initially planning to just get a premade model and start streaming casually to get a sense of how I come off on video and what could work as a more permanent persona. But I'm not really sure if anybody out there wants to watch some random person with a premade model, and I'm also worried about losing any followers I may have gained if I switch to a new persona. Would it be better to just come up with a design first, get a PNG done, and go from there?

>> No.23853090

>>23853033
Premade models are fine, they give a massive boost in starting quality. A PNG is fine, but if you found a premade you like by all means use it and work on something custom on the side.

>> No.23853100

>>23853033
you will never be worse off than having not started

>> No.23853140

>>23852625
Things like actual technical help and opinions on more open-ended things like art are really the best info the thread can give, but really people just waste a lot of time or risk getting flat out bad info by depending too much on /asp/'s "help" on other things. Just about every single question here can be found fairly simply with a search.

>Should I have an overlay/alerts/[insert art asset]
What's everyone else doing?
>What type of content should I make?
What are other smaller creators doing? Is it working? Is it something you'd enjoy or be able to competently do? There's your answer
>Would you watch....
Has anyone else found success doing it? It doesn't matter what we watch, we aren't (or shouldn't be) your audience.

It's like the infinite timeloop of people unable to do any amount of critical thinking for themselves and then someone getting mad at "do your own research" anon despite multiple people agreeing that it's the best way.>>23852625
Things like actual technical help and opinions on more open-ended things like art are really the best info the thread can give, but really people just waste a lot of time or risk getting flat out bad info by depending too much on /asp/'s "help" on other things. Just about every single question here can be found fairly simply with a search.

>Should I have an overlay/alerts/[insert art asset]
What's everyone else doing?
>What type of content should I make?
What are other smaller creators doing? Is it working? Is it something you'd enjoy or be able to competently do? There's your answer
>Would you watch....
Has anyone else found success doing it? It doesn't matter what we watch, we aren't (or shouldn't be) your audience.

It's like the infinite timeloop of people unable to do any amount of critical thinking for themselves and then someone getting mad at "do your own research" even though the only difference between another anon scrolling through Vtubers to find who does and doesn't use overlays and the anon asking for help is whos time it wastes.

>> No.23853241

>>23853140
Whoops, had to copy the message since captcha wasn't working and ended up adding to it without realizing I had the original still pasted

>> No.23853494

>streaming vtuber vods for profit: HOW DARE THEY
>streaming youtube videos for profit: lol its ok

vtuber twitter on the hypocrisy train again today

>> No.23853566

>>23853494
vtuber twitter is something else.

>> No.23853606

>>23853033
if that's your plan they wouldn't watch you with a fancy model either
just jump into it to get a feel for things and don't be discouraged when you get 0 viewers, then if you vibe with it look up how to actually grow an audience

>> No.23853611

>>23852478
No, I disagree, people are thinking for themselves. The problem is more likely that they associate the tactics for driving traffic as scummy, vapid, unfulfilling, and ultimately not important. They would be correct in thinking that. The only real things that are important in the long-term are products of art, science, literature, and technology. Content as people call it is shit to waste people's time. If they're not utterly vapid themselves by nature they need to flip that switch and convince themselves then force themselves to make content to get clicks and waste time. Ultimately it will benefit them if it works out and they might even convince themselves that they're creative creators creating content. That would be the best case scenario because then they can keep churning out clickable and watchable content by the bucket loads. Copying only works to a certain degree but if done right it will lead to more views and you just need to watch out that it isn't too similar to the original so you can avoid drama years later.

The question is if you want to do that and if you feel that it wont distract too much from whatever character concept you want to put forward. Same goes with ASMR and other things that almost nobody is genuinely interested in doing. Are they prepared to become content mercenaries willing to do anything for traffic?

>> No.23853766

>>23853611
i'm willing to bet most /asp/ies are more interested in growing an audience than creating art

>> No.23853866

>>23853494
I think the difference is that Youtube creators rarely, if ever, voice any concern about people doing this. The only time anyone gets DMCA'd for Youtube videos is if something automated picks it up as being them just watching a a copyright TV show or live event. Even if you say "Oh they don't want backlash from big people like Asmongold's community!", they don't even choose to do it to smaller creators with little to no following. Obviously no one that I'm aware of leaves a "PLEASE WATCH THIS ON STREAM" disclaimer, but that also includes people who WANT their content watched by streamers, like people who make content aimed at that creator or their communities, or twitch viewers as a whole.

>> No.23853871

Man it's not easy to find someone able to draw male decent, anyone /asp/ artist have confidence about drawing male?

>> No.23853923

>>23853766
That's most streamers and content creators in general.

>> No.23853938

>>23853611
>The problem is more likely that they associate the tactics for driving traffic as scummy, vapid, unfulfilling, and ultimately not important.
>They would be correct in thinking that.
viewerfags please kill yourselves.

>> No.23854053

>>23853938
How is this a viewerfag take you absolute retard? We had an entire thread meltdown over people saying they don't want to create content a certain way (targeting existing creators or their audience) and people act like getting seen by other big creators is "cheating" and not fair, or how scummy clickbait is and how they refuse to make thumbnails that'd actually pull in viewers. This is an extremely common mindset here.

>> No.23854113

>>23853611
Do you really think people are out here trying to create some avant-garde character concept performance and not just make fun content that they and others can enjoy? You had the first three sentences right then you just went off on a stupid tangent.

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space cat sketch

>> No.23854223

>>23853871
Dog anon (zun) draws a lot of his own art with an ikemen style, the rest of /asp/ artists I've only seen draw girls. Depends what style you want for "men" though.

>> No.23854288

I need to make a list of streams and things I actually want to do instead of choosing everything less than a day in advance and start making real schedules.
But I also want to just get used to streaming first, which I guess I am now, even though I still haven’t fully caught onto the whole “make a goal for your stream” and sticking with it and constantly thinking about it.
I also need to keep on working on talking during streams and not just mumbling or going on weird tangents.
There’s still so many things that I need to just make an actual habit of if I want to actually stream and make content so then I can go from being low/mediocre quality to “good” quality.

>> No.23854317

>>23847656
Anyaposter is a nomad floating from thread to thread to spread his ethos; i think he wanders through a lot of different generals and is usually lurking
i enjoy singing songs with him

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>>23854197
Cute!!

>> No.23854410

>>23854223
Checked that Zun anon, looks good to me, wonder is he open for character sheet though.
Well let's put him to the list at least.

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23854471

i'm live today apparently, gonna practise how to improve the comfy levels...
https://www.twitch.tv/truekaiser

>> No.23854588

How can I get affiliate without shamelessly asking for follows?

>> No.23854591

>>23853766
>>23853938
>>23854113
Don't get distracted. The point is that the vast majority of people know what to do and know how to find information. Other thoughts and feelings prevent them from doing it whether they're aware of it or not. If you can't see that then you're one of the few that really don't get it.

>> No.23854762

>>23854588
Stream and share your content.

>> No.23854907

where the fuck did you aspies get these retarded notions of shilling?
>marketing myself is scummy
>asking people to watch my content is vapid
>i want people to watch me for my genuine personality
organic growth doesn't happen. it can't. right now there are 1,200 chuubas under 5 views just counting vtubers. there are tens of thousands more face cam streamers under 5 views as well. i bet a majority of them refuse to shill themselves because they think it's gross.

life ain't an anime faggots. you need to realize that marketing yourself is the only way to grow unless you get extremely lucky with a viral clip or have a unique talent that's very much in demand. but you don't have either of those two. do you need to do your market reps and work on directing traffic to your content.

>> No.23854961

>>23848066
I know it's unlikely and it's doubtful it would happen to me, but I'd rather avoid antiposters making up rrats about me (even though I know that, realistically, noone would care enough to continually troll a sub 5view chuuba).

>> No.23855029

>>23854907
Seems like only you and a few others are getting angry and retarded about this. Everyone else just understands how things are. Somehow it's a newsflash and basic bitch clickbait is shit but effective. Somehow it's now blasphemy to not believe your own bullshit and agree that clickbait is shit no matter how effective it is.

You need to realize that other people can hold more than one thought at the same time.

>> No.23855102

>>23855029
>clickbait is shit but effective
if the only thing you think drives traffic is "clickbait" you're just as retarded as the aspies who refuse to stream because they haven't debuted with all their commissioned overlays and bgm.

>> No.23855194

>>23855029
They understand yet refuse to "get on board" and either do it or stop complaining about lack of growth. Everyone that's grown has used the methods available to them, very, very few people just randomly grew by putting in zero effort and doing zero marketing. You can't complain about lack of growth or an audience when you aren't doing the bare minimum to grow. They should just not complain if all they're going to do is paste your link here and on Twitter and go live.

>> No.23855196

Who is the most ぽん out of at least current-gen /asp/?

>> No.23855250

>>23855102
>the aspies who refuse to stream because they haven't debuted with all their commissioned overlays and bgm.
stop making up fictional aspies, it's retarded

>> No.23855331

>>23855102
You're retarded if you think that it wasn't just one example from a list. It would be pointless to list everything because everyone else understands that it's implied. Except you, the most autistic idiot here.

>> No.23855336

>>23854197
looks alright.
dislike the b4bis tho

>> No.23855354

itt a bunch of retards call each other retarded

>> No.23855391

>do nothing to grow
>stream to the same 6 aspies
>upset you don't grow
This is the way of the aspie.

>> No.23855416

>>23855331
You need to list everything otherwise it doesn't count. Beep boop beep boop does not compute.

>> No.23855441

>>23855391
We have been scared into not linking to multiple discords and /r/VirtualYoutubers, purisu andastando

>> No.23855579
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23855579

>>23854907
This, though i still think like that it's the reason i can't grow though, there was a vtuber Piapi UFO that would go around in every discord absolutely disgustingly shilling herself unapologetically, even in places where it wasn't allowed. I'm pretty sure some you guys if you're active in the community have seen her shill herself. she commits literally every sin possible, by being a trend follower and having an obnoxious voice. BUT i will say, i saw her when she hadn't even debuted shilling herself, and i thought to myself who is this nobody doing this cringe. now it's been a year and she has successfully gotten a sizeable audience and has 4k fl on twitch and 1k subs on youtube.
Shilling yourself absolutely fucking works, if you have the drive for it.

>> No.23855596

>over a year and a half
>not a single aspie has made it
accept it. you're only doing this to larp a weeb OC you came up with as a child and see it move around on the screen. none of you have what it takes to grow.

>> No.23855602

>>23855194
I'm sure they are doing things but those things aren't effective. You're paraphrasing what has already been said but neglecting the part that they don't get on board with only certain things. That isn't even to say that people that do it all get popular but there are certain tactics that work better. You too can be a popular but forgettable react streamer for example. We're talking about understanding why they might not want to do it. Almost everyone would want the money but not everyone wants to dig their career into those kind of activities.

>> No.23855624

>>23855596
but anon, I only started in March.

>> No.23855718
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23855718

>>23855596
post your stats then brah.
you won't because you're a nobody aswell, stop projecting and crabbing others in with you.

>> No.23855754

>>23855718
i did and you bitched about stolen stats and inspect element. i can already see you typing up that exact same response right now.

>> No.23855758

>>23855596
You're quite preoccupied with "making it" for someone who probably hasn't even tried to stream. Nevertheless, consider: many of us are just doing this to make a few friends and have a few laughs. Many aspies are already known to be in stable careers.

>> No.23855819

>>23855718
Every time someone posts numbers they're called fake.

>> No.23855837

>>23855754
yeah and then we ask for a banana on to and you say "there's no point" because you either are lying or you don't want to be outed as the bitter asshole on /asp/

>> No.23855841

Trying to "make it" beyond having a bunch of quality regular chatters is fucking retarded.

Get a real job.

>> No.23855856

>>23855754
Post anyways I wanna see

>> No.23855866

I'm probably gonna make it.

>> No.23855887

>>23855758
>Many aspies are already known to be in stable careers.
That's why no one can actually afford anything and are dead set on doing everything themselves to save every penny they can. The only person to actually verifiably shell out any cash has been Kaiser and Zunlive.

>> No.23855909

>i'm only doing this to have fun and make friends
>menheras about numbers
>doesn't stream because he doesn't feel 100%
>retweets giveaways and png drops on twitter
>complains about lack of growth
>hates more successful chuubas and accuses them of selling out
>depression posts on twitter about loneliness

>> No.23855937

>>23855841
Believe it or not, people can and have managed both.

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23855945

>>23855754
just post ur console or channel with it too retard, it's not hard disproving faked numbers.
otherwise, your advice is trash, and you're just projecting.

>> No.23855968

>>23855909
Thanks for describing your own vtubing efforts in such detail

>> No.23855985

>>23855887
being frugal is often just an indicator of being good with money, but I wouldn't expect a crab to understand. I personally clear six figs and I refuse to spend a dime on any vtuber commissions because I'm not some retard who's fixated on "making it"

>> No.23855987

>>23855937
The intent of the mindset is the point, not the end result.

>> No.23856028

>>23855754
Literally just link yourself?

>> No.23856030

>>23855909
stop describing nyanako_VT LOL

>> No.23856075

>>23855985
Multiple anons have flat out said they can't afford a 40 dollar booth model, it's not just a matter of being frugal.

>> No.23856089

>>23855887
nah dawg kaiser spent 900 euros on a png he won't use that's not smart

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23856102

>>23855196
?

>> No.23856135

>>23856089
Never said it was smart, but if it's money he can waste then it really isn't that big of an issue, it'd be the equivalent of me spending 10 bucks on some assets on Etsy and then quitting next week.

>> No.23856137

>>23856102
pon.
Meaning airheaded/a bit slow

>> No.23856178

>>23856075
if you can't afford 40 dollars, you probably shouldn't be streaming.
It's an expensive hobby, I've wasted at least 4k on streaming equipment/computer upgrades/ monitors/ leap motions/ vr headsets/ comissions.

>> No.23856188

>>23856102
Pon; stupid, airhead

>> No.23856190

>>23856102
it's translated like that, bc it's commonly used as onomatopoeia

>> No.23856206

>>23855196
>>23856137
Me.

>> No.23856214

>>23856135
swap the 10 bucks for 900 euros and type that shit take again

>> No.23856225

>>23856178
Somebody said it. I do actually watch some poorfag streamers but poor doesn't look good or sound good.

>> No.23856252

I think that Kaiser should give me 900 euros to be his therapist for two weeks

>> No.23856254

>>23856102
it's japanese for "pin" which the trashfags use to dogwhistle laponkotsu, a minor who streams sporadically and feeds schizos that shit up the thread every single day for over 2 years at this point. it's based off the japanese sound effect "pin pon" because "pon" is part of laponkotsu's name.

>> No.23856274

>>23856225
Only cool if it's your friend.]
otherwise i can't watch someone with a low quality stream, i just leave.

>> No.23856361

>>23856254
holy schizo i didn't think it was rin trolling the threads but i guess that tracks

>> No.23856385

>>23855866
i wanna see post your channel :D

>> No.23856421

>>23856361
who?

>> No.23856425

>>23856385
Nope!

>> No.23856436

>>23856137
>>23856188
>>23856190
>>23856254
I see, thanks for the explanation, should do my nihongo reps

>> No.23856453

>>23856214
If he's making enough money for 900 to be expendable income, it doesn't fucking matter the same way 10 dollars is nothing for me.

>> No.23856476

>>23856436
ignore >>23856254

>> No.23856567

>>23856425
fake
and
gay

>> No.23856620

>>23856453
Sure, but no one should spend that much on a static png. I really don't like people using him as a "you should spend some money on vtubing" example

>> No.23856623

>>23856476
you need to go back to the trash can

>> No.23856625

>>23856567
No, I just really don't want to be associated with /asp/.

>> No.23856674

>>23856623
neck yourself

>> No.23856684

>>23856625
i don't blame you.
i'm iffy about it, but the schizos make it hard to post here.

>> No.23856711

>>23856674
>outs himself as a trashfag
you make it too easy. go schizo over minors like the pedo you are somewhere else.

>> No.23856781

>>23856620
If you have the expendable income to spend money within your means, there's nothing wrong with doing so. I use him because I'm under the assumption that he isn't exactly hurting due to spending that 900 dollars.

>> No.23856794

>>23856711
I have no idea what you're on about, and I've never been there. You're a schizo retard giving out false info on an advice board. Kill yourself

>> No.23856844

>>23856781
You can stop repeating your point

>> No.23856886

Wait why kaiser not going to use that 900euri character ?

>> No.23856914

>>23856844
SHUT UP YOU SOUND STUPID, I'M DONE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.

>> No.23856943

Kaiser: give me 900 euros to be your therapist for two weeks. I'll answer any message at any time of the day. I don't have a degree and am not a licensed professional but I give very good advice.

>> No.23856946

>>23856914
yeah, exactly

>> No.23857003

>>23856886
Its just one static png. More of a design sheet desu. IIRC he's gonna commission another person for the model.

>> No.23857108

Kaiser is literally live rn if you guys have questions for him

>> No.23857205

>>23857108
nah I'm good

>> No.23857229
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>>23857003
Wait, it was just a png? I thought it was a proper live2d model commission and it was getting rigged atm.

>> No.23857274

>>23857108
i get that you want to find ways to drive traffic to your stream but this is the dumbest way i've seen anyone try

>> No.23857281

>>23857108
pretty clever way of shilling kaiser.

>> No.23857301

>>23856914
my man you literally repeated the same thing like 3 times in a row so yes you do sound stupid

>> No.23857334

>>23854907
me personally i dont want to shill my stream too hard currently because i know my viewer retention needs work and i should probably make some assets to look more presentable. obviously i should constantly be trying and improving anyways, but i dont want to disappoint viewers when they click on a shit stream and i dont want to disappoint myself when they gave me a chance and i was so shit that they leave and never look back

>> No.23857355

>>23857229
The commission was for character design I think, hence just the png

>>23857274
>>23857281
I'm not him lmao take your meds. Just saw him saying he was live earlier

>> No.23857396

Yellow cat is officially dead

>> No.23857435

>>23857396
Gonna need a source on that my g

>> No.23857446

>>23857355
Honestly while that PNG look good, it doesn't scream 900euro to me.

>> No.23857465

>>23857334

>23822469
Save yourself hours of work as far as assets go that way you can focus solely on your content.

>> No.23857468

Kaiser. I want your money!

>> No.23857473

If he's dead let him rest in peace by never mentioning him again.
>>23857355
If that's true no wonder he was allowed to make that many changes to the design.

>> No.23857484

>>23857435
He doesn't do any cringy ass streams anymore and is always offline on steam

>> No.23857508

>>23854197
nice lines, although if you want higher polish i would suggest going even thinner then doing line weight afterwards but im happy to see you dont chicken scratch

>> No.23857515

>>23857465

https://www.etsy.com/search?q=sub+badge
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=twitcH+overlay
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=twitch+screens
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=twitch+panels
https://www.etsy.com/search?q=twitch+alerts

>> No.23857516

Not having 40 to get a mass market model is one thing but 900 for concept art before commissioning a model is like living in a different world.

>> No.23857523
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>>23857396
he was never alive he would, literally make post about himself on here.
He's a giga schizo, he literally streams himself posting about himself.
I wouldn't be surprised if you were him honestly.
only yellowcat brings up yellowcat.

>> No.23857540

>>23857484
alright, let him stay dead then. let's talk about something else that actually matters.

>> No.23857567

>>23857523
haha whoa I replied to that post so I was a guest star on his stream and I didn't even realize it

>> No.23857575

>>23857515
#freeVtuberAssets on twitter. Lots of free overlays and stuff for starting out.

>> No.23857641

>>23857523
>only yellowcat brings up yellowcat.
the unspoken rule

>> No.23857661

>>23857523
Haha never in a million years would I want to be that pedophiliac sexual predator

>> No.23857734

>>23857334
>i dont want to disappoint viewers when they click on a shit stream
you will cycle through thousands of viewers over your first several months of viewing. ask the aspies for the 1 year stats on unique viewers. stop trying to chase after any one particular viewer.

>> No.23857776
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Gonna be playing some Stardew with my babi model
https://twitch.tv/alto_tiro

>> No.23857846

>>23857776
dude i checked ur stream out go back to your cowboy model. you sound way too fucking foreign.

>> No.23857868

>>23855596
Lumi made it though

>> No.23857903

>>23857868
corpobuff. name a single aspie that's made it without getting lucky enough to go corpo.

>> No.23857928
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23857928

I have decided to go for a bubble buddy design to make my life easy as shit. its shit rn but in the future itll be ez af to update

>> No.23857962

>>23857903
>lucky enough to go corpo.
What on earth is this. You have to apply for that job; that's not luck

>> No.23857987

>>23857903
Lucky? She was an aspie that got good enough to get into a corpo. Stop moving the goalpost.

>> No.23858067

>>23857928
vroid?

>> No.23858077

>>23857903
>lucky enough to be skilled enough to go corpo

If any other aspie got in do you really think they'd have the skills to maintain any viewership whatsoever?

>> No.23858126

>>23857903
hoshinaka mira did her reps and graduated into a corpo i dunno what you're looking for
I'll also throw out Lex's name but I'm sure you'll keep talking about how he didn't get accepted for partner on his first try or something

>> No.23858208

>>23858126
After the goalposts stop moving, anons like that just disappear and accept they're retards without owning up to it.

>> No.23858375

>>23857229
its a design sheet, technically also a png cuz you can just crop and use it. he wanted to ask his friend to make him a 3D model of it like his current model since his friend did that one as well but his friend might be busy so hes in limbo designfag stage making an entire RPG maker game with his new model's lore

>> No.23858429

>>23857446
its less of a png and more a concept design project commission where he basically has infinite revisions til hes happy from what i understand

>> No.23858456

>>23857928
I would add eyebrows or beadeyes so you ake it more expressive.
>>23858375
Wew, so he doesn't plan on going 2d then?

>> No.23858483

>>23858375
Kaiser has more off stream lore than whatever character he's larping

>> No.23858489

>>23858375
That sounds completely insane

>> No.23858490

>>23858126
>another corpo
>failed male
after an entire year you're all still just shitting up the threads on /wvt/ and the front desk and making your dumbfuck circlejerk ingroups. go edit your overlays and vroid's hair strand colors for the 1421230659th time this week.

>> No.23858524

Bait detection reps! Will you bite or ignore?

>> No.23858526

what ever happened to that guy with the eyebags and the hair highlights anyways?

>> No.23858593

>>23858490
>failed male
>130+ CCV
I'm actually seething at the retardation, this bait is supreme.

>> No.23858714

>>23858593
>bots and embeds views
>this is somehow success
Alora did the same thing and got rejected for partner. i'll wait for the twitlonger exposing him as a sexpest in a few months.

>> No.23858726

>>23858593
An expert bait, I admit that much. But I don't wanna disappoint bait reminder anon

>> No.23858765

>>23858714
Alora's numbers look nothing like his, there's zero reason to think he's embedded.

>> No.23858819

>>23858765
he has the money for a model like that he has the money for bots. just natural progression of facts.

>> No.23858842

>>23858819
The bait is falling apart

>> No.23858846

>>23855887
I know that Kaiser has spent the 900, but what has zunlive bought? He doesn't seem like he's spent that much.

>> No.23858907

>>23858842
Maybe the answer is to just feed the bait until they get too full and confuse themselves.

>> No.23858951

>>23858846
Stream assets and a lot of expensive art commissions

>> No.23859009

>>23858846
Just a bunch of art and skebs really, nothing crazy specifically for stream.

>> No.23859054

>>23858907
That's what I usually do. Just keep asking for proof and they fall apart. I actually expected this to go a lot farther than "uhhh he bots because he has money" because it started off really good.

>> No.23859100

>>23859054
At the risk of setting him off again, I think it worked somehow. Unless he's typing up a monster of a reply right now.

>> No.23859342

>>23858456
good idea, I was trying to think of a way to add some type of blink without actually adding any eyes

>> No.23859521

Has anyone ever thought that most western indie chuubas are just rich middle class kids and office workers that pay money to feel like popular anime online. I don't know why they're pointed at as examples of what to do, if their goals are different, and they never really make back their investment.

>> No.23859863

>>23859521
yeah the indie scene is really fucking weird in terms of what kind of people are actually doing this. generally the artists are fine since they likely just want to make art and be cute, but theres a lot of weird sex fiend clout chasers and people just trying to discord fuck each other and erping on twitter. throw in the SEA variants and its even weirder

>> No.23859866

>>23859521
No one is pointing to randos with expensive models and no viewers as an example of what to do.

>> No.23859900

>>23859521
I've thought about it but it doesn't bug me too much. I'm gonna do my best as an indie for a couple years and then try to get the holosanji money.

>> No.23859920

>>23859521
>office workers that pay money to feel like popular anime online

me yes, which is why success doesn't really matter. though i do have a small viewership. it's really nice hobby to have especially since i don't do much.
very expensive hobby though.

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>>23859521
I don't really spend money on any other hobbies so that's pretty much it. I live pretty frugal (i make 4x my monthly expenditures in salary), so i have decent disposable income and if one doesn't want to break even / make profit in the first place the money is secondary. That being said, i do deserve to be ridiculed for it and i don't mind it at all.

>> No.23860076

>>23860026
Give me some money.

>> No.23860147

>>23859866
Doesn't even need to be no viewers, at 50-100 you're not making it when you slapped down 3-5k.

>> No.23860180

>>23860026
Just hire a manager.

>> No.23860328

>>23860026
I'm Paul Heyman of vtuber, hire me as manager and everyone will acknowledge you.

>> No.23860336

>>23860076
become a hobby i want to invest in, anon-chama

>>23860180
what would that manager do for me?

>> No.23860379

>>23860026
Don't listen to Paul. Hire me and I will poorly manage you BUT I will ERP with you.

>> No.23860390

>>23860336
NTA but please spend your money on me. Do you like TCG related content?

>> No.23860439

>>23860390
Nta, do you have art yet? Have you considered reaching out to a tcg artist? I'm shocked people don't do that more often.

>> No.23860488

>>23860180
he already said he doesnt mind not making it big

>> No.23860533

>>23860026
hire someone to help you with your game assets.

>> No.23860552

>>23860026
Hire someone as your wife.

>> No.23860569

>>23860390
I think i still have my gym badges from the 2002 german pokemon tcg championship.

>> No.23860618

Starting A Hat In Time in a couple minutes~
I didn't have time to prepare a picture or anything, oh well.
https://twitch.tv/azu2yn

>> No.23860635

>>23860147
>50-100 you're not making it when you slapped down 3-5k.
You've have no idea what you're talking about. At 50-100 you'll make that back no problem in less than a year's time provided you've got a consistent schedule, especially towards that upper end. At 4k, that's just 300 or so a month and that's assuming you don't have any special events specifically to raise that money, which are very viable when you're in that range of viewership, that's without taking big whales into consideration.

>> No.23860808

>>23860026
I'm in the same boat. I dump about half my pay into investments and even after living expenses I still have about $1k left over every month. Might as well just use it to dick around in a way that I find fun and that at least makes some people happy

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>>23860439
NTA but I am not at liberty to disclose.
NTA but a madlad on /tg/ asked for tokens from the artist on pic related and still hasn't reported a response.
I guess I could have thought of that, but there's not really a tcg artist who's work I would want to become. Not even a manga artist honestly, even if it were possible. I'll definitely think of commissioning tokens now, sometime in the far future.
>>23860569
That sounds cool, do they do that anymore? (not that it matters, I'm pretty sure I am priced out).

>> No.23860917

>>23860635
could just make the 3-5k back in a month or 2 just from working and the money spent on the hobby doesn't even matter anymore.

>> No.23860987

>>23860390
i like following other tcg chuubas :] maybe i'll support...

>> No.23861012

>>23860808
Have you considered charity?

>> No.23861027

>>23860914
I was just curious. I went that route and my model stands out a bit because of it. It was a lot easier process compared to other people's experience with jp artists.

>> No.23861157

>>23860917
Yeah obviously money made from other sources comes into play, but if we're purely talking money spent on and made from Vtubing, it really isn't hard to make your money back at that range of viewership.

>> No.23861223

>>23860914
Sort of, the way it worked in Pokemon TCG was that you could attend regional tournaments from licensed shop owners and then collect points for participation. We had to drive a lot, because it was very scarce in germany, it's pretty much dead now since the coof came along, but there seem to be still events in america at least.

I couldn't spend money on it anymore, but i really enjoyed it when i was a kid.

>> No.23861226

>>23861012
>elon musk could have ended world hunger!!!1!

>> No.23861287

>>23860618
game volume is too high I think
(or maybe your mic is too low)

>> No.23861304

Commander pods with aspies when?

>> No.23861346

>>23860635
You're leaving out monthly expenses and time investment. Say you get 100 subs at a 50/50 split then you get 3k after a year before taxes, and excluding your other expenses. This is not a career but a hole in your wallet.

>> No.23861353

>>23861226
That’s quite the answer to my question.

>> No.23861437

>>23861157
understandable. while i understand people should strive to succeed and get good numbers equivalent to what a full-time job could support, focusing on vtubing as an investment from the very beginning is a one-way ticket to menhera. people should be ready to part with their money and not expect to see it back at the very worst.

>> No.23861467

>>23861304
>(((coommander)))
>>>/edhg/
This AIN'T THE COMMAND ZONE, THIS IS REAL LIFE.

>> No.23861466

>>23861012
Already subbed to a bunch of <20 viewer vtubers

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>>23861304
i could play on untap.in ...

>> No.23861600

>>23861346
>monthly expenses
My post was assuming you have an IRL job and have already been supporting yourself, that doesn't even come into play and typically becoming a Vtuber isn't just one lump sum anyway even if it did. Going full time at that 50-100 range isn't a great idea unless you've got cashflow from something like commissions.

>time investment
It's a hobby, that really shouldn't be much of an issue if you're doing what you want when you want and you're enjoying yourself.

>This is not a career but a hole in your wallet.
I don't think anyone was making that claim, simply that making the money you spent on an expensive model isn't that difficult to make back if you're in that range of viewership.

>> No.23861609

>>23861467
I don't expect people to down to play legacy senpai, edh is just the most approachable for collabs.

>> No.23861672

>>23861491
I know people stream pods on table top sim. 4 players on untap is just nightmarish to look at on a stream, similar to mtgo.

>> No.23861710

>>23861304
i think lance did a commander stream with some /asp/ies in the past

>> No.23861721

>>23861609
I just had to. I'd be down someday. 4 meme decks.
https://vocaroo.com/1cayKhBHkHYT

>> No.23861729

>>23861157
>>23861346
>>23861437
I would only consider making a proper investment after already reaching 100-500 viewers. It might sound counter intuitive and the opposite of what most people seem to do but I don't think you can justify it as a job expense until you already have an income from it. Until then it just seems like delusional hobbyfag thinking.

>> No.23861744

>>23861437
I agree in most cases. There's the occasional chuuba who comes in with a set plan, idea for content and community building etc, the type you see jump straight from debut to partner in a few months time but most people aren't that. Just go in expecting it to be nothing but a hobby. It's what I did and despite making my investment back and then some it's still just a hobby.

>> No.23861786

>>23861710
Who?

>> No.23861802

>>23861600
>My post was assuming you have an IRL job and have already been supporting yourself
Understandable, the reply chain is more focused on career vtubing as a source of income. If it's a hobby then any expense you can handle is fine.

>> No.23861914

>>23861786
https://www.twitch.tv/lancemaverick
he's one of the oldest /asp/ies, very big card game autist
i think he's done official commentary for force of will too

>> No.23861959

>>23861802
Trying to be a "career" vtuber without having an existing job or education is for insane people.

>> No.23861987

>>23861914
Oh his art is by an actual tcg artist. I'll have to pick his brain about that. Thanks anon.

>> No.23862059

https://cozy.tv/boseph/replays/2022-05-07
Mark my words /asp/
Cozy.tv will be the next big thing for Vtubing.

Cozy.tv will do to Vtubers what 3D printing did to guns, what soda stream did to soda, what tiktok did to youtube.

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>>23861721
im fucking losing it lmfao, also modern best format. i like terrorizing my local game store by being a cringe holobrony

>> No.23862129

>>23862059
get the fuck out of asp t.cozytv dev

>> No.23862133

>>23861987
yeah, he has some connections with force of will through commentary and tournaments i think so he was able to contact one of the artists to do his model

>> No.23862242

Pauper chads where you at???

>> No.23862251

>>23861959
Yeah. Unless you already have $ to take off of work (or are in college & just have the time) it's unrealistic for most people to be able to take the time to really make any sort of content creation their career. Doing it full time is a grind just like any other job between the hours making content, networking, and everything else

>> No.23862282

Is there any keyword to avoid twitter's god-awful tier artist when I'm searching a decent one.

>> No.23862360

>>23861959
Please don't assume such things. Nobody has mentioned NEET to professional vtuber, that's just an unrealistic strawman fantasy. It's just a difference in thinking and defining your goals. Having a hobby is fine but isn't something to be emulated by others.

>> No.23862361

>>23862242
I'm too retarded and poor (heh) for paper pauper, but I've been considering it.

>> No.23862385

so, you are an /asp/iring vtuber and I'm a /beg/inner illustrator.
I think we can make a good couple

>> No.23862424

>>23862385
Sorry anon, but I'm an idol VTuber. I can't date.

>> No.23862489

>>23862361
The top meta right now is all below a hundred bucks anon...

>> No.23862570

>>23862424
I mean, "hobby-related" couple

>> No.23862614

>>23862489
Every deck I have is 40-60 dollars, down to like 20 if I take out two or three cards from each.
But I guess buying a deck is less stupid than buying a box, huh?

>> No.23862857

>>23862614
Pauper also isn't hit with as many forced rotations like modern and legacy are since most of the dumb power creep is rare or above. Pauper burn and dimir fairies are still at the top.

>> No.23863060

>>23862857
Affinitychama...

>> No.23863155

>>23863060
Affinity is less than 2% of the meta lol

>> No.23863216

>>23863155
I remember a lot of screeing and wailing over the atog ban. That was the most pauper talk I had ever seen until right now.

>> No.23863295

>>23863216
Pauper players don't tend to screech that often. People are really just kinda tired of burn for the most part.

>> No.23863877

Just gonna leave this here. It's dead, but clearly there's some players here
https://discord.gg/SXEeX29E3m

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