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https://twitter.com/cyberlivecorp/status/1522697746783768576
> As seen from prior statements and company activities, CyberLive has struggled to work through difficulties sustained over the last several months - including financial / budgetary concerns, negligence from company management, and continued targeted harassment of the company and its talent.

> A number of projects had been started by prior management without a sufficient budget in place to manage the company income versus expenses. This led to a severe strain on company resources. Although communication with the artists and vendors associated with these projects continues and projects have now been budgeted for payment, it has created a deficit in company funding that cannot be recovered in the near-term.

> All eight of the above members will redebut on June 1, 2022 under independent VTubing group Aetheria. 'Aether' is also known as the fifth element that permeates throughout all of space. It is often associated with light, and used to explain concepts such as the traveling of light or gravity. For us, aether represents the new world we have created - Aetheria - and the limitless potential within.

>> No.23792502

>hire a underage manager that is clearly not suited for the job
>entire company collapses

>> No.23792692

>>23792502
yup, dont neglect management talent

>> No.23792719

>Aetheria
>Ethyria

Have fun listening to ESLs talking about these

>> No.23792720

These smaller agencies are really dropping like flies aren't they.

>> No.23792773

what a fail

>> No.23792882

>>23792336
Chapipi should just apply for NijiEN or PhaCo, the rest of these girls are worthless, so nothing lost there.

>> No.23792966

>>23792720
I think this is the first of the "big" small corpos to actually go under

>> No.23793040

>>23792966
I guess but Tsunderia is basically a husk circling the drain now too isn't it with most of the members walking out isn't it?

>> No.23793181
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23793181

>>23793040
>take the small corpo pill

>> No.23793210

>>23792882
Menace's grift game is pretty strong.
>>23793040
>>23792966
Tsunderia is pretty much on borrowed time. Once their last gen exits it's over.

>> No.23793220

>>23792966
>big
Cyberlive wasn't big at all lmao

>> No.23793249

>>23793040
Tsunderia situation is salvageable with good management yeah it's fucked

>> No.23793259

>>23792336
>> All eight of the above members will redebut on June 1, 2022 under independent VTubing group Aetheria. 'Aether' is also known as the fifth element that permeates throughout all of space. It is often associated with light, and used to explain concepts such as the traveling of light or gravity. For us, aether represents the new world we have created - Aetheria - and the limitless potential within.
But wood is the 5th element.

>> No.23793311

>>23793040
Tsunderia is a chuuba workshop you use to get a model right now

>> No.23793354

>>23793210
QRD on Menace?

>> No.23793373
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23793373

How the fuck is Phase Connect more successful and solvent than these other small corpos?

>> No.23793474

>>23793373
Simply because through sheer luck they haven't had a big yab yet, the question is how the company will fare when it inevitably does have one.

>> No.23793482

>>23793373
chinese funding

>> No.23793513

>>23793373
They hired girls that are actually funny and good entertainers instead of being GFE.

>> No.23793541

>>23793181
chinga tu madre Wactor

>> No.23793665

>>23793373
Prism and Kawaii are totally fine too though. Cyberlive was always fucked from the start, and Tsunderia was being held together by Slugma

>> No.23793795
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>>23793474
>they haven't had a big yab yet
Pippa regularly does things that would cancel a normal indie or small corpo.
The amount of tranny and misgendering jokes she has made would end any other chuubas career alone.

She is practically yab-proof at this point.

>> No.23793969

>>23793373
Pippa

>> No.23793986

Funny how we've gone from the Big Five small corpos to the Big Three in the space of less than a month.

>> No.23794001

>>23793373
phase has a CEO and staff that actually do stuff. They had a full booth at Offkai Expo last month. I haven't heard of the other companies having physical presence

>> No.23794015

>>23793665
Prism
>CEO and his friend sold the company to Sony and exited to NFTs

Kawaii
>Corpo has no money that they had to use kickstarter to fund 3Ds for all their members
>all their whales are putting money into it while donating less to their talents and it doesnt seem like it'll clear the minimum goal

>> No.23794151

>>23793354
Imagine Fauna with elements of Rushia. She peddles a very potent type of poison to her viewers and it's worked out really well.

>> No.23794329

>>23793373
>How the fuck is Phase Connect more successful and solvent than these other small corpos?
Because it's not a cryptobro leading it and a shitload of money goes towards individual managers meaning the talents feel supported.

>> No.23794356

>>23793795
Basically every small corpo yab so far has come about because of a company's management, not anything the talents did or said. Pippa may be yab-proof, but PhaseConnect itself definitely isn't.

>> No.23794433

>>23794015
>sold to sony
which hasn't been a bad move so far, and cap was never that great of a manager in general.
sony as a lead is no worse than any other lead.
>kawaii
the kick starter would get funded either way, they stated on the kickstarter itself that its just to pad costs because they're not selling out to chinks.

>> No.23794439

>>23793354
https://youtu.be/Q6MEmu31yic

>> No.23794614

>>23792882
Chapipi is the only good CL vtuber.

>> No.23794706

>>23793354
ex-wvt, massive bitch and backstabber.
She uses GFE and ASMR as a way to manipulate and trick her audience into falling in love with her. If you look at her chat and audience it's the same time of hopeless goslings that Kiki has. Avoid at all costs.

>> No.23794750

>>23793795
Pippa watched the Postal movie in a group collab and was laughing at the hating jews bit. She's untouchable.

>> No.23794848

>>23794750
Pippa's like a lightning rod, she absorbs all the schizos and yabs so the others can walk out fine.

>> No.23794881

Poor Pandora.
She dreams big but keeps shit on.

>> No.23794891

>>23793795
Who said that it's about pippa?

>> No.23794917

>>23792336
>'Aether' is also known as the fifth element that permeates throughout all of space. It is often associated with light, and used to explain concepts such as the traveling of light or gravity.
Somebody didn't pass high school physics

>> No.23794924

>>23794706
Thanks, Sei.

>> No.23794953

>>23792336
Chappi...

>> No.23795018

>>23794917
...they teach the history of Aether theory in your country?
Not that that wouldn't be cool as fuck but I kind of can't help but be at least somewhat surprised.
Though I'm pretty sure Aether never was tied to gravity.

>> No.23795043

The culling games have begun!

>> No.23795046

>>23794433
Anon...you cant expect people to have actually read the fine print of the kickstarter and know that it's being funded with our without everyone's support.
This is /vt/ where everything is taken at face value:
>if the company is disbanding to be a group that means all the talents are graduating
>if the kickstarter is to fund the idol career it means they're desperate for cash
>if an agency talent mentions any meme from 4chan it means they're automatically /here/ and therefore we hate them

>> No.23795385

>>23794917
To be fair, they might be talking from a historical perspective; Einstein still believed in Aether. It was a popular concept before being replaced by better theories.

>> No.23795451

>>23793210
Their last gen doesn't need to exit, only the girls need to exit and its done for

>> No.23795479
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23795479

>>23794848
>Pippa runs so other indies could walk
Based

>> No.23795519

>>23794848
This is wrong. One of her genmates got doxxed by the people she hangs out with and they did something to her and most likely still are. Its been months and she has been having anxiety attacks and is constantly depressed, locking herself in her home for days lately cancelling streams left and right for seemingly no reason

>> No.23795562

>>23793181
Not Korone pudding dog....

>> No.23795565

>>23795479
the yabs also attract attention, which later on leads viewers to her coworkers. She does a god damn job and tanking the yabs and drawing in people. It's an unconventional strategy born out of luck, but it works.

>> No.23795573

>>23795451
Oh right. Their last gen has guys. I forgot. But yeah same difference.

>> No.23795575

>>23795519
yeah isnt that just normal pippa though, always depressed and locks herself in.

>> No.23795618

>>23795575
>ESL
I'm talking about her doxxed genmate

>> No.23795657

>>23794881
Pandora's big strength is her singing and she never does karaoke so yeah it's a bit of a problem

>> No.23795739

>>23795519
Imagine getting blackmailed into sex as a chuuba

>> No.23795765

>>23795739
To be fair that used to be a donation goal for cyberlive.

>> No.23795811
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>>23795765
Maybe if they kept it the company would have stayed solvent.

>> No.23795824

>>23793373
Fishman actually has business experience, at this rate, PC won't be among small corpos for much longer.

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23795852

>>23795657
>Chuuba can sing well
>never does it
>numbers crash
>WHAT HAPPENED
Every time.

>> No.23795883

>>23795765
If they just made them into tickets to weekly private shows in VR there would be no controversy

>> No.23795943

>Prism gets bought out by Sony
>Tsunderia loses it's key staff member and everyone else leaves shortly after
>Cyberlive gutted and it's remaining members democratizes into an indie group
>Kawaii turns to crowdfunding for 3D
>MyHoloTV mass graduates their talents(again)
>Amber Glow's reputation got trashed by one of their ex-talents
>Wactor
So Phase Connect is going to win the small corpo wars unless Prism uses their Sony connection to turn things around instead of getting cannibalized. Cyberlive dropped out of the race but it doesn't mean they won't be successful as indies, the same goes for ex-tsun members.

>> No.23795954

>>23795883
>private strip club tickets
mhmm..

>> No.23796000

>>23795519
Wait, who?

>> No.23796081

>>23795943
>So Phase Connect is going to win the small corpo wars unless Prism uses their Sony connection to turn things around instead of getting cannibalized
Look at VERSEn if you want to see how Sony will handle a new vtuber group, they are barely growing since debut.
The only upside is maybe Sony will pay for shit.

>> No.23796150

>>23795943
PC is also relatively new compared to the others so it has plenty of time to kill itself.

>> No.23796151
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23796151

>>23793259
cyberlive getting things wrong right to the end

>> No.23796187

>>23795943
What I'm curious about is which of the newly debut(ed/ing) corpos are going to take their spots as the new group of small agencies. (Or are small corpos kinda done for?)

>> No.23796211

>>23796081
>>23795943
Sonny botted the fuck out of their own talents on day one. Well. Them or /#/ but I feel like Sony would really be that stupid.

>> No.23796348

>>23796211
>>23796187
If Prism can take advantage of Sony's permissions (songs and games) and access to instrumentals, then they can double down as the musical small corpo they always aimed to be. Let's hope Sony's moneybags arent too out of touch.

>> No.23796366

>>23795943
I forgot about Phase. I wonder how they 'won' so hard with people like Pippa yabbing all over the place.

>> No.23796370

>>23794706
Shut the fuck up, Sei/Melancholic/Lumi

>> No.23796438

>>23794706
>ex-/wvt/
Lumi is ex-/wvt/
Pippa is ex-/wvt/
Kiki is still /wvt/
No idea how Menace gets this rep. when they're all /wvt/

>> No.23796447

I want Orla to join Hololive or Nijisanji so she can stream full time.

>> No.23796449
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23796449

Everyone please continue to support the girls, I don't want Pandora to cry any more

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23796457

>>23796370

>> No.23796473

>>23796081
To be fair, it's one of SME's subsidiaries that debuted and is in charge of VERSEn. PC's partnership seems to be with SME itself, who's also in charge of the VEE project that has yet to debut.

>> No.23796506

>>23796438
Instead of a stream yab, she had a dramayab
Menace is radioactive to chuubas

>> No.23796539

>>23796187
AkioAir's supposedly doing okay, they've gathered a small fanbase on /vt/ and I havent heard anything bad about them either.

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23796544

>>23793795
This but about Lumi

>> No.23796573

>>23792336
Kawaii and Phase-Connect are all that's left

>> No.23796579

>>23796366
By knowing when to cheese it and deleting VODs as a matter of well-oiled routine.

>> No.23796581

>>23796438
Technically, Lumi is /asp/ and is still /asp/. Terumi, that menhera got into a spat with is the founder of proto-/asp/, /auds. Tenma while not explicitly /wvt/, has had her previous incarnation posted there (the same goes for Rosemi, Pomu and Bae). I definitely agree with you since everyone has come into contact with /wvt/ in one way or another, so it's definitely silly to say menace=wvt.

>> No.23796583

What a dumbass whoever ran this shit company was. Imagine being such a simp that you'd blindly trust a bitch like lumi to manage your financials. She probably was laughing her ass off running the company to the ground

>> No.23796653

>>23793795
Do a collection of those clips and you can cancel her

>> No.23796678

Does Lumi still keep her gorespammer around?

>> No.23796683

>>23796581
>Bae
Nobody gives a single shit about MyHolo except their retard intern.

>> No.23796734

>>23796348
Sony got Prism Nintendo permissions of all things.

>> No.23796760

>>23796683
Someone cared enough to have her as an OP once. And I did care, I was waiting for that Ririsya x MyHoloTV song collab but kinda forgot about it in the middle of their company exploding.

>> No.23796782

QRD on Lumi's run in CyberLive? What did she actually do to help drive the company in the ground?

>> No.23796802

>>23796678
He's around but keeps changing his name.

>> No.23796809

Chapipi...

>> No.23796855

>>23796782
Absolutely nothing. People just peddling rrats.

>> No.23796866
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23796866

>>23793181
thankfully anything connected to a proper big corpo vtuber company is sa-

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23796865

>>23796782

>> No.23796918

>>23796866
Disbanding a branch that is not Jap or EOP =/= mass graduations from half the entire company.

>> No.23796934

>Cyberlives dies
>at the same time Lumi has 250 viewers watching her do situps

>> No.23796960

>>23796782
Not her fault, absentee manager made her take on the mantle. But she still has a pet doxxschizo harassing everyone, including /wvt/ and kiki.

>> No.23796962

>>23796782
Nothing. She tried to save the company as much as she could because Misaki was driving it into the ground, but it was too much for her to handle while streaming long hours and being a grad student. She left with Yuri who convinced Lumi to join Phase-Connect. Yuri wanted to leave for many months before their decision.
Misaki was always the problem. Literally "I brought you into this world, I can take you out of it."

>> No.23796986

>>23796000
>11
Sound like lis

>> No.23797017

>>23796782
If the discord leak from the gen2 secret discord is to be believed:
>stole company funds while being a manager
>was jealous of gen2, specifically emma for being bigger than her
>constantly lying and throwing missinfo around, mostly about cyberlive the company she was a manager for

>> No.23797024
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23797024

Cyberlive has had 3 managers and they all followed the golden ratio downward spiral and they all sucked.

>> No.23797059

How were Lumi & Yuri able to take those characters with them to phase?
was cyberlive just that mickey mouse that they didn't protect their characters or did lumi/yuri buy the rights?

>> No.23797065

>>23797017
I didn't see those leaks, only the /vt/ sisters one. Gimme.

>> No.23797098

>>23796187
>Or are small corpos kinda done for
People have mostly realized they're a complete waste of time.
The biggest vtubers outside of hololive are indies who even beat out nijisanji most of the time. And they don't need to surrender a cut or follow arbitrary rules.

Small corpos existed because they could prey on desperate indies who didn't want to shell out for a model and thought that being in a hololive knockoff was the only option, but I think anyone who's looked at the scene for more than 5 seconds could understand that its a waste of time to join a no-name agency, lose half your donations, and still get less views than an indie. And for what? A free model that you don't get to keep and you don't get creative freedom over?

>> No.23797119

>>23797059
The cyberlive CEO is retarded and hands all rights of the assets to the talents after 6 months

>> No.23797155

Phase dies when Pippa gets just a little more popular and finally gets the clue to leave and go solo.
She could do big time collabs and gain big fans but Phase stops her from doing it

>> No.23797156

>>23796683
I gave a shit about MyHolo. I miss them...

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23797219

>>23793181
the wactor girls at the bottom left the company and now are 2 views
Rui graduated because nobody watched him on BiliBili(it's trap but a girl voiced him), Laila is a cunt don't believe her lies, Kurari Rose is a menhera, Piyoko makes more money doing porn ASMR on DLsite so she retired from vtubing, Mia and Lilu switched companies and are now 2views

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23797230

No point in releasing a new version of the chart when Tsun might have another announcement in a few weeks.

>> No.23797233

>>23796782
She carried the company on her shoulders for months and then left when she realized she was better off on her own and then got poached by the fishman

>> No.23797236

>>23796918
the 2020 graduations consisted of half the branches active members graduating and so far the 2022 graduations have consisted of again half the active members graduating.

>> No.23797237

>>23797155
Pippa already said she loves the small corpo, she isn't leaving.

>> No.23797248

>>23797024
She isn't quitting...

>> No.23797262

>>23797237
>pippa says the right things that she is told to say

>> No.23797279

>>23797219
>Piyoko makes more money doing porn ASMR on DLsite
Now, this is based. Does she still keep her persona or a persona for those?

>> No.23797287

>>23792882
Chapipi would fit in well with Holo since she has health issues and doesn't stream much.

>> No.23797288

>>23797262
>pippa says the right things
Only in Fishman's dreams.

>> No.23797292

>>23797024
Vera took the wheel of a vehicle that was speeding off a cliff and already on fire. I don't think your assessment of the situation is fair.
All the girls seem to speak fondly of her and her results, such as they are.

>> No.23797328

>>23797279
She does it under a new name 山田じぇみ子 but the voice is the same she likes doing pervy loli stuff

>> No.23797336

>>23797237
Pippa has changed a lot in 2022. The numbers are going to her head just a little bit to say the least.
She will leave at some point, and she will be better for it. Her dono' that go into Fishman's pocket > the petty "salary" she gets.

She will realize this and make a change. Fishman will try to keep hiring her friends to keep her happy. He hired Lumi & Yuri for Pippa, and I expect him to poach Lisa soon.

>> No.23797377

>>23797098
I pretty much agree with everything you said.
I feel like the only good small corpos are those that have more ambitious projects, like concerts, conventions, or "out of the box" ideas that other VTubers haven't explored. Because those concepts benefit from having company backing/management. Corpos that only stick to streaming and taking a cut of funds leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Like you said, plenty of indies are making it big on their own as streamers, so why be in a corpo if they have no plans outside of streams?(aside from getting a free model)

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>>23797262
You haven't watch the rabbit get bonked in real time for the things she said, and sometimes she would completely ignore messages from fishman until the end of the stream.
It used to happen weekly.

>> No.23797395

>>23797292
Gossiping with talents in a private discord about graduating members is unprofessional. There should be some distance between manager and talent. Emma was the most mature telling the others to stop thinking about Lumi but Vera had to bitch that paypigs were still donating to Lumi.

>> No.23797417

>>23794015
Kawaii has plenty of money. The talents actually get a monthly allowance from the company for skeb commissions and/or song cover productions.

>> No.23797468

>cyberlive thread
>half the talk is about Phase
Sasuga

>> No.23797499

>>23797417
That explains why they're head to head with Prism with music production.

>> No.23797512

>>23797468
cant be because half of cyberlive is in phase

>> No.23797516

>>23797024
>quit soon
Can't quit if the company is gone.

>> No.23797559

>>23792882
but NijiEN and Phaco are worthless too

>> No.23797561

>>23797468
Small corpo threads will talk about small corpo issues. Unfortunately, this is still the ongoing argument that won't be resolved any time soon.

>> No.23797692

>>23797288
>>23797237
It's a collab beggar. Of course he's retarded.

>> No.23797704

>>23796782
Carried the company as the no.1 member as well as being the most donated to. Is doing grad school, vtubing and managering at the same time cutting down on her sleep. Her genmates began shittalking her behind her back causing her to leave the company she helped built up. Someone leaked screenshots of her genmates shittalking her too which caused a schism which resulted in the remaining fans coping by saying Lumi was bad or blaming others because they cant deal with the fact that their cyberlive girls are all bitches and whores behind the scenes.

>> No.23797733

>>23797559
That's a great opinion, did you come up with it yourself?

>> No.23797736

>>23797704
t. sei

>> No.23797758

>>23796986
I meant lia

>> No.23797800

>>23797559
NijiEN has Pomu, Enna, Elira, Rosemi, and Millie. PhaCo has Uruka, Lia, Lumi, and Tenma. Those along with Amiya, Lisa, Miori, Luto, Yura, Shiki, Irys, and Chapipi are the only worthwhile EN corpo vtuber talents.

>> No.23797802

>>23797024
Vera pulled a coup and successfully managed to steal the company away from the CEO.
Crazy

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23797815

>>23797468
The Lumi and Yuri cyberlive split and Phase poaching is still a sore spot, with allegations of cyberlive talent being a group of shittalking meangirls versus it was all Lumi ripping off the corpo.
The fans and allegedly some girls in cyberlive are sore about it still.

>> No.23797837

>>23797704
>causing her to leave the company she helped built up
Is that why she was stealing company funds to get a 3D then leaving literally the same week? She was running the company into the ground if anything

>> No.23797899

>>23797837
Lumi earned back enough to completely pay for all her models, and was the main funder for Gen 2.

>> No.23797902

>>23797704
>causing her to leave the company she helped built up
Is that why she was stealing company funds to get a 3D then leaving literally the same week? She was running the company into the ground for personal gain if anything

>> No.23797909

>>23797704
Where's the Crusader Kings 3 stream?

>> No.23797924

>>23796583
Sei/Melancholic ruined it for her, not her management skills, most likely.

>> No.23797973

>>23796782
The Gen 2 girls found out about Sei/Melancholic somehow, and she ended up ostracized. No one really knows if Lumi mismanaged anything or not.

>> No.23798000

>>23797704
7 members can't all be wrong. Right?

>> No.23798135

>>23797973
Fun fact: she's still keeping that pet doxxschizo of hers. Swimming in stolen funds and under the comfort of poach connect.

>> No.23798163

I saw this coming from a mile away
>pay us a certain amount of money and get a private discord call
The red flags were all there.

>> No.23798181

>>23798135
Is there any reason why she's still keeping him? Sacking a belligerent mod should be easy.

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23798191

>>23792336
Who will Fishman save next?

>> No.23798237

>>23798163
unironically one of the reasons i never got into them in the 1st place. Got too many bad feelings about them

>> No.23798255

>>23794015
>phase connect
Also know as Tenma Connect and her 4chan reject sidekick

>> No.23798266

>>23797800
Nah, they are worthless

>> No.23798271

>>23798191
Chapipi's the only one Lumi's friendly with so I think he'll save her if Lumi asks.

>> No.23798279

>>23798163
Lumi is still doing that to this day on her private discord

>> No.23798291

>>23798181
Boyfriend

>> No.23798323

>>23798181
She kept him enough to literally end up ostracized by everyone over it, why would she drop him AFTER that instead of disavowing him much earlier?

>> No.23798347

>>23797733
Did I touch a nerve?

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>>23798347
Nah you're just being a tard in public and it's funny.

>> No.23798471

>doomposting about Prism
>another falls at their feet
prism keeps winning.

>> No.23798515

>>23798411
so you are actually mad lmao, grow some skin sister

>> No.23798571

>>23798471
Remembering when /clg/ was joking about CyberLive outlasting Prism.

>> No.23798583

>>23798291
What kind of retard would allow her boyfriend a visible role and controversial role instead of just a faceless manager in the background?

>> No.23798630

>>23797800
>he thinks anyone other than Tenma matters in phase connect

>> No.23798641

>>23798583
They had custom trainer and pet roles in her Discord. It's a BDSM relationship.

>> No.23798696

>retards still replying to themselves over and over
At least get on a proxy so the IP count goes up jesus christ

>> No.23798717

>>23793373
>Flopped JP
>Before they poached Lumi their only relevant member was a /here/tuber who's probably got them blacklisted from most major Vtuber groups
They better hope their new gen had someone that can leapfrog Pippa and be the figurehead.

>> No.23798886

>>23798717
Does anyone relevant ever interact with Pippa on social media?

>> No.23798918

>>23798717
Major vtuber groups like who? Niji & Holo? Those barely collab outside of themselves anyway unless it's Vshoujo or large indies who happen to be personal friends.

>> No.23798924

>>23793373
MAYBE IF THIS FUCKING FISH MADE MORE FUCKING ADS WE WOULDNT BE IN THIS SITUATION WITH THE JP GIRLS HAVING LOW VIEWS

>> No.23798925

>>23794015
Kawaii is going to be the Hololive of the west, the CEO is Yagoo's brother

>> No.23798926

>>23798886
Ame's artfag.

>> No.23798927

>>23798886
Almost the entire EN indie scene

>> No.23798971

>>23798925
By Hololive of the west, you meant old Erolive right?

>> No.23799040

>>23798924
It probably wouldn't have helped much if at all, the JP market is just insanely oversaturated

>> No.23799129

>>23793181
The left side of that needs updating

>> No.23799145

>>23798717
>flopped JP
I forgot they even had a JP group do they still exist? I swear other than the Deer one that speaks English I have NEVER seen any of the other 3 in anything phase connect related. They’re like the Holostars of Phase.

>> No.23799203

>>23798886
Pretty much everyone.

>> No.23799208

>>23798924
No Anon you don’t understand not supporting the Jp side is what a smart company does. I bet you half of the phase connect fans don’t even know their names.

>> No.23799236

>>23793373
He went to busyness school, he has some idea what he is doing.

>> No.23799260

>>23799203
>pretty much everyone
>she a “Holo fan” no one in Holo even acknowledges her existence
Sucks being a 4chan 2view.

>> No.23799265

>>23798918
Rarely is still better than never. You have to leech to grow, unless you people seriously think Pippa has what it takes to incline to 4 digits by herself.

>> No.23799275

>>23799145
One of them barely streams as much anymore
The other streams regularly but has no audience
One of them has a sex cult

Either way their gen 2 is all english based so no more JP divison

>> No.23799290

>>23797098
You're acting like every indie is Ironmouse. Which is actually true, they are all that big.

>> No.23799314

>>23798971
The good old days, yes.

>> No.23799335

>>23799275
Damn sounds like a dumb investment I expected more form the fish he’s just a another try hard Yagoo clone.

>> No.23799344

>>23793373
The fish is actually smart

>> No.23799349

>>23796366
The intensity of Pippa's yabs is massively exaggerated. The rabbit is just yab for a corporate vtuber, not in general.

>> No.23799380

>>23799335
When phase was created he thought people would watch JP vtubers but it turns out to be false.

>> No.23799420

It takes time, in about 2 years or so they'll be more established and reaching NijiEN levels. It took Holo until Gen 3 to strike gold, give them time.

>> No.23799422

>>23796866
>>23797236
The branch itself which isn't the same as the entire agency graduating. theres a big difference

>> No.23799461

>>23795385
Coming this july, Phlogiston. A chuuba company from greece or some other shithole
>>23795739
Hololive did it

>> No.23799476

>>23798971
Yeah

>> No.23799577

>>23799461
When are small corpos running Spell Jammer?

>> No.23799599

>>23798924
>>23799145
Everyone in Phase is inclining, even the JP girls.
Lumi and Yuri brought JP fans and the JP girls doubled in CCV.

>> No.23799621

>>23799275
>one of them has a sex cult
Elaborate.

>> No.23799639

>>23795943
>MyHoloTV
I thought they folded around the time bae became bae. They were still around after that?

>Amber Glow
Who?

>> No.23799695

>>23797155
The English talents of Phase are doing well across the board. Losing their biggest one would suck, but it wouldn't kill Phase.
Pippa also has no interest in going indie, since her being two indie vtubers at the same time would be retarded and she prefers to be in a corp.

>> No.23799696

>>23799599
Lumi is a chink, care to explain how or in what universe she brought jp fans?

>> No.23799715

>>23799621
Iori is their deer bilingual japanese/english chuuba and extremely GFE. Her fans are obsessed with her and she loves them to death. They're jokingly called the deer sex cult because they spend a ton of time talking to each other on discord and in private nonstop.

>> No.23799725

>>23799639
They debuted a new gen composed of ex-indies like that flip girl and a thai one. Then they graduated.

>> No.23799771

>>23799696
Lumi is russian, she showed her hands once and it's not asian you dolt.

>> No.23799795

>>23798918
NijiEN will never collab with Pippa after everything she said on stream. Lia still has a chance with Pomu since they reply to each other sometimes. I hope Tenma gets one too.

>> No.23799811

>>23796438
>Lumi is ex-/wvt/
Lumi is /asp/, she had exactly two interactions with /wvt/

>> No.23799838

>>23799771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQs0Hlna7NI
What do you gain from lying?

>> No.23799872

>>23799599
>Lumi and Yuri brought JP fans
You sure they didn't just bring English fans who happen to watch the JPs?

>> No.23799898

>>23799639
>They were still around after that?
...not really. They replaced and then lost their gen within like 8 weeks.
>>23799795
Yeah Tenma's great at networking and pretty good at Valo.

>> No.23799902

>>23797802
The CEO who wiped all social media and disappeared. Yeah.

>> No.23799942

>>23799838
Dude she's multilingual and studied chinese on her own time.

I've been watching her for 8 months, her family is from Russia and she talked about visiting there once to see her extended family there once too. Also her anniversary hand cam stream she had white girl hands.

>> No.23799957

>>23799696
>>23799771
I thought Lumi is some flavor asian given her background. Smells mainland SEA to me (Vietnam, thailand, cambodia etc etc)

>> No.23799964

>>23799145
>>23798717
The JPs aren't doing that bad.

>> No.23800012

>>23799942
No white person would ever willingly learn chinese on their own. Clearly you have a agenda so I'll leave you to it. I dont have the energy to argue with a schizo trying to argue a imaginary world in his head

>> No.23800027

>>23799957
Nah her family some sort of those hardass immigrant russian/eastern european families where they force their kid to study instruments, learning multiple languages and to study hard so they can grow up having a better life in America.

>> No.23800047

>>23799902
What? His twitter is still up, just dead like Misaki's.

>> No.23800085

>>23799902
>The CEO disappeared
Oof this is not rebranding. This is straight up dissolution.

>> No.23800105

>>23799838
>she speaks English she must be from England

>> No.23800108

>>23799715
Gimme reasons to hate her before I fall for her tricks.

>> No.23800179

>>23800012
>Clearly you have a agenda
projecting is rude

>> No.23800180

>>23800012
NTA but you've never actually watched Lumi have you?

>> No.23800194

>>23800027
That sounds like an Asian family.

>> No.23800234

>>23796348
Technically speaking, Prism SHOULD have the same permissions Nijisanji does, since Niji is sony music subsidiary.

>> No.23800243

>>23800108
You don't like the scratchy voice she does for some strange reason.

>> No.23800317

>>23799898
Maybe we'll get a Valorant stream with Tenma someday. Miori's having a collab with Niji in 12 hours, so they're collabing with the lesser known vtubers again

>> No.23800323

>>23800027
I have to agree with this guy >>23800194
Sounds asian to me. For lighter her skin tone, it's easy to rule out Japanese and Korean but Chinese is still a possibility because the Chinese diaspora is a real deal and they're scattered all over the world.

>> No.23800388

>>23797236
Yes, the branch, not the agency. Nijisanji KR got folded into Nijisanji world. In this cause Cyber is basically gone.

>> No.23800416

>>23800012
>No white person would ever willingly learn chinese on their own. Clearly you have a agenda so I'll leave you to it
What is the cure for such disorders?

>> No.23800423

>>23799290
There's 6 vtubers on twitch right now above 2k, and its actually a slow night.

Only 1 is in vshojo.

I mean not everyone is going to me mouse, but most small corpos are in the 50-100 range, which is beaten out by hundreds of indies.

>> No.23800446

>>23800243
This, she has an incredible vocal range, if she lowered her voice just a little bit so she wouldn't sound so scratchy she would be amazing

>> No.23800484

>>23800317
>Miori collabing with Niji
Wait what?

>> No.23800587

>>23799599
>JP girls doubled in CCV.
Are the JP fans in the room with us right now?

>> No.23800598

>>23800484
https://twitter.com/AmiciaMichella/status/1522615857939058690
Project winter.

>> No.23800618

>>23800317
Yeah it actually gives me hope Noor might greenlight more.
>>23800484
It's a big Asian collab where Miori happens to be in too.

>> No.23800712

>>23800587
Yo, Michiru love

>> No.23800735

>>23800423
>Twitch
Absolutely disgusting

>> No.23800743

>>23800587
Yes, I was there when Lumi raided Michi when she was playing Dark Souls

>> No.23800793

>>23800735
the small corps stream on twitch.,

>> No.23800851

>>23800735
You can't grow for shit on youtube, youtube is entirely dominated by Hololive and Nijisanji.

>> No.23800991

>>23800851
Weak ass mindest

>> No.23801060

>>23800991 (me)
*mindset

>> No.23801145

>>23798926
If she’s smart she would suck ReNPC’s dick and seduce him in exchange for getting a collab with Mori for clout.
He already does background art for Ame, Gura, and Mori so he probably has a direct line to them

>> No.23802284

phase
>collabed with ybc
>is the most successful small corpo

Other corpos
>don't collab with ybc
>barely manage to survive or already fall apart

>> No.23802339

>>23797230
>Kamiko Kana
>was right all along
lol
lmao even

>> No.23804308

>>23802339
Kana just didn't want to be a team player or do anything for anyone but herself, just like Hylo. What was she "right" about?

>> No.23804358

>>23794706
>kiki
>goslings
>unironic
dyrbi

>> No.23804410

>>23802339
>>23804308
Kana might be a solo, self-sabotaging menhera, but the one thing she was right about was that being in Tsunderia and being an indie was the same thing, since the company provided zero support beyond the model.

>> No.23804485

>>23793259
>the Aether was proven to not exist anyway
oh no no no

>> No.23807905

>>23798191
Chapstick

>> No.23808895

>>23800618
>Asian
One of the Twitch indies is from Australia and the other is from the UK.

>> No.23809720

>>23796866
Isn't Ban Hada going on indefinite break?

>> No.23809896

>>23809720
Until August

>> No.23810042

>>23794706
>. If you look at her chat and audience it's the same time of hopeless goslings that Kiki has
Eh Champyons have a level of mutually acknowledged larp in their relationship. Goomers are in way deeper.

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>>23796918

>> No.23810513

Imagine my shock.

>> No.23810826

>>23797328
Huh... I actually bought some of her ASMR, despite not knowing she was a vtuber.

>> No.23810918

>>23792336
They couldn't come up with something that doesn't sound almost like Ethyria?

>> No.23811124

>>23810918
I wouldn't be surprised if it were entirely on purpose.

>> No.23811182

>>23795385
And "dark matter/energy" is barely any different/better.

>> No.23811205

>>23793373
They have pipkin.

>> No.23811361

>>23795824
I hope so, I want Pippa to be fabulously rich and comfortable.

>> No.23812539

>>23799349
What other vtuber has read out shoahcaust denial?

>> No.23812776

>>23811124
>I wouldn't be surprised if it were entirely on purpose.
Why would they? Ethyria's thoroughly non-glamorous.

>> No.23812934

>>23793259
I thought the fifth element was boron

>> No.23813019

>>23800991
Mindset might be that Twitch has 2million ccv and YTgaming (yes it's still called that) has 700 thousand.

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Everyone please tell utano pandora she's a cute panda, she needs love

>> No.23814000

>>23799811
well maybe if she had browsed /wvt/ a bit more she would know why is so dangerous to trust schizos
Sei is the Rin that is, and will be

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>>23792336

>> No.23814583

>>23814000
Rin?

>> No.23815153

Lol

>> No.23815367

>>23814583
Once, long ago, a schizo was let in on a certain circle.
After a certian incident, once vtuber refused to cut contact with him, letting him grow attached to her.
At first he was her main defender, rabidly lashing against her enemies, but when she finally turned back on him, he went against her.
What followed is a year long harassment campaign that is still going on.

Sei will turn against Lumi, much like that schizo did, and for the same reasons, and everyone will learn once again that you are who you are when no one is watching, and nothing else

>> No.23815544

>>23815367
>After a certain incident
Is this the blood tribute guy?

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Sorry fish man. I have some girls to save.

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>>23815609
Just wait until you find out that Yagoo is the manager for Phase Connect gen 2.

>> No.23816533

>>23815367
Will he get her ostracized from Phase Connect too?

>> No.23816957

>>23815367
Sometimes the biggest fans turn into the biggest antis, I cannot fucking imagine how bad it'd be for sei to turn on lumi. Lumi is just plain naive and acts like a highschooler still, it's unfortunate.

>> No.23816993

>>23816533
He's not even in Phase Discord

>> No.23817209

>>23795765
For real?

>> No.23817590

>>23817209
There was Discord dates, but now you can just catch them in Veracord or Altercord and speak to them in VC sometimes.

>> No.23818292

>>23795519
>and they did something to her and most likely still are.
What did they do?

>> No.23818304

>>23796187
There are several small corpos that relatively new that are around
HavenX
AkioAir
KoMETA
VReverie (Nova seems promising, she pulls in around 2.5-4k during her Yugioh and card game streams)
ect.

>> No.23818343

>>23818304
I like Ophie more than Nova. And yeah, those 4 companies seem cool right now.

>> No.23818358

>>23813019
By that logic just fucking stream Bilibili

>> No.23818545

>>23816957
Yes, she really does put on a pleasant act

>> No.23818592

So who is in charge of this new rebranding?
First they rebranded Yunity as Cyberlife, now rebranding as "Aether"
ogey

>> No.23818637

>>23818343
I agree, shes chill and her voice acting streams were interesting to watch

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>>23793181
>>23796866
Small-mid corpo is where it's at lads.

>> No.23818911

>>23818592
Nobody, it's a democracy. They vote on everything together.

>> No.23819001

>>23818911
So Vera is now in charge, got it

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>>23815609
>>23815836
Not if I have anything to say about it.

>> No.23820038

>>23797395
thats what you get when you get a generic twitch hot tub ASMRist whore and give her basically control of a company

>> No.23820302

>>23815367
Iirc he wasn't in megubertu's circle, so who is he targetting?

>> No.23820720

>>23804410
That and a toddler outfit loving coalburner

>> No.23822017

>>23800027
>russian/eastern european
Shes jewish isnt she

>> No.23822157

>>23793259
>eight
??

>> No.23823332

>>23793181
anyway this is why we only watch hololive

>> No.23823941

>>23818845
based vspochad

>> No.23823966

>>23793181
It’s a wild ride, I guess.

>> No.23825540

>>23820038
>thats what you get when you get a generic twitch hot tub ASMRist whore and give her basically control of a company
Are you talking about Misaki, Lumi, or Vera?

>> No.23825552

>>23825540
Yes

>> No.23825707

>>23799771
>>23799838
>>23799942
>>23800105
Americanized chink here, Lumi's accent is good enough that you can tell she's grown up hearing Chinese for a while even if her vocabulary isn't up to par (I'm basically the same). Probably Chinese or from a Chinese speaking family. The white people I know who speak Chinese always have an accent unless they're hardcore Chinaboos who have been studying the language for years.
She also shifts pretty flawlessly in and out of Beijing accent.

>> No.23825744

>>23825707
>Lumikeks worship a chink
lmao

>> No.23825772

>>23825707
her teacher was from beijing and she's really bad at a lot of chinese words, definitely someone who learnt chinese but never uses it

>> No.23825811

>>23825707
Lumi has a ridiculous talent with accents though. Its possible she's been practicing with chinese speakers

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>>23818845
>>23823941
VSPO is actually pretty big, same level as NeoPorte

>> No.23825846

>>23825772
>>23825811
Oh, did she take college classes in it or something? I guess that would do it, there are enough Chinese Americans who speak broken Chinese that it's hard to tell.

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>>23792336
Chapipi....
How to save???

>> No.23825907

>>23825772
>>23825811
>Learnt/practicing chinese
Lumi is chinese. What is it that makes you tremble from that info?

>> No.23825965

>>23825907
because you're just making shit up and im trying to correct you

>> No.23825969

>>23825907
Interesting, but I’ll await proof.

>> No.23825997

>>23800416
A bullet to the head

>> No.23826051

>>23825817
Anon.... NeoPorte started around 60 days ago

>> No.23826101

>>23826051
they're still doing well though? corpos have shut down in that time.

>> No.23826113

>>23826101
name one non-retarded corpo that shut down in 60 days.

>> No.23826153

>>23825817
Why are Vspo and Neo Porte being bundled together?

>> No.23826219

>>23793541
ya te vi laila

>> No.23826232

>>23825969
You won't recognize proof even if it punched you to the face
>>23825707
>>23800027
>>23800194

>> No.23826297

Lumi is a cute brat and you should watch her.

>> No.23826301

>>23826297
No.

>> No.23826310

>>23797287
>Sana

>> No.23826315

>>23825907
She has white girl hands, unless those arent her hands.
I can believe she's part chink however

>> No.23826350

>>23826297
nah, she's a whore with a pet schizo/doxing moderator bf, you can keep her to yourself

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>>23826297
I already watch a different cute brat, but I always enjoy Lumi's songs and karaoke a lot. I can't wait for the next one to come out.

>> No.23826363

>>23826315
Her mother can speak fluent russian. Nothing about the dad, she might be hapa since russian women do get together with chinese males though.

>> No.23826444

>>23826363
I can buy Russian mom/Chinese dad

>> No.23826506

>>23796539
did their astroturfing actually trick people into thinking they have fans?

>> No.23826634

>>23818845
I will marry Qpi!

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>>23826634
Based taste.

>> No.23826841

>>23804485
Technically it does though, just under a different name - Quantum foam, and it is widely accepted with proof and it is a thorn in the ass of processor designs ever since we hit the single digit nanometer scales.

>> No.23826912

>>23826841
quantum foam and aether work in completely different ways though, the whole point of aether is that it functions as a medium for light to pass through because the idea of something being able to be transmitted through a vacuum is inconceivable to 17th century scientists.

>> No.23826932

Because I know Misaki is still lurking, and I can read her language so easily.
Misaki, please get a fucking life. Your obsession with your ex is embarrassing.

>> No.23827179

You know what else doesn't exist? Anime.

>> No.23827180

>>23815609
Pandora is going to be in EN4

>> No.23827196

>>23800085
The group is rebranding. The company is dead.

>> No.23827198

>>23826912
But we've measured inconsistent traversals of EM before. It's still on-going research, sure, but it is inconsistent enough to make it a potentially serious facet of spacetime. We can't account for dust or other things, particularly because it is in the gamma ray ranges.
Until we make a section of space with no detectable virtual particles (probably extremely hard if not impossible, likely requiring blackholes), it may well be that EM radiation DOES require those particles to travel.
For all we know blackholes come about because of that - the extreme energies from the supernova creating a true vacuum allowing a hole in spacetime to form. That's a whole different theory, but it could explain a lot on how blackholes seem to break all our currently known physics. (even if we know some of our physics is wrong and mere best efforts for now)
>>23827179
Neither does your balls.

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