/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>23601065
Previous thread : >>23582269

Why did they flop?

go make a thread this saturday instead. now is time to rest.

what don't you make this thread once per week, for weekly discussion?
instead of making a new thread everytime the last one reach bump limit

IDbros, what' the best chuuba for learning bahasa Indonesia?

>>23601188
I want zea to be in ID4

>>23602429
Reine probably, you could probably wait for other ID chuubas to stream learning bahasa such as Zeta soon. There is also from NijiID

>>23602429
Reine

What you guys think the reason HoloID majorly using English in almost every stream? I personally think they are using english probably the same way Rich Brian and NIKI use english to introduce Indonesia for the people outside of Indonesia

>>23601188
Multiple reasons
-hq didn't support them enough
-the talents were laid back part time streamers who were happy streaming to a 20 man audience and in fact gets scared when there's too many people in the stream
-despite the "slow and steady" meme, Riku valued short term profits over long term sustainability and cut their legs out from under them just before they could potentially benefit from the increased attention holoID brought to the industry

OP of the first thread here.
Glad that someone decided to continue it, but isn't this already too late? But whatever, as long as it can produce some good discussions.

Also we need to vote for a new thread name (or keep it like this).

I've decided to make this thread in this Saturday btw, around 10-11 WIB. If there's no thread like this by that time I will make it. Stay tune!

>>23602565
>>23602735
Reine doesn't speak ID nearly enough to be a good learning guide.

I know ID3 is a huge success purely because of Kobo somehow blowing up. But I was just wondering if this can also be an effect of ID1's Holofes performance. As we all know they were really praised for that and it ultimately gave HoloID attention in the latter half of March. And then they suddenly debuted the 3rd gen. And because of that, a domino effect happened that ended with not only ID3 getting good numbers but also the rest of the branch. Everything somehow landed perfectly for them.

>>23604625
you have it backwards, ID1's performance at holofes is what drew massive attention to HoloID in the first place, which is what allowed Kobo to explode like she did. NijiId could've been secondary beneficiaries of that increased attention, but we all know what happened to them

>>23601065
Tourist here
Can you guys tell me about Indonesia?
Why do Japanese companies pander to you so much?
Why do you have so many schizos and doxxers?
Is Anya really Reine's maid?

>>23604983
That’s what I meant. The domino effect I was mentioning was on normal streams. Everyone seem to be getting better than normal numbers after those two major events.
>NijiId could've been secondary beneficiaries of that increased attention, but we all know what happened to them
I disagree actually. People who watch Hololive will stay with Hololive.

>>23604625
Tbh no one expected ID3 will came out soon. So I think it is safe to say that HoloID getting more recognition from the overseas due to their performance during the HoloFes. In Kobo case, it might be different because she attract new viewers. Most of them didn't even know hololive. It is all thanks to Cover that they found her. Her streaming style is pretty much entertaining, kobo is unique. She have her own appeal not because she have similar style like other ID youtuber but her style is her style and thats the reason why she could stand still.

>>23605373
Anon, ID is more or less experiencing what happened in the west when HoloEN debuted, where alot of normies and people who otherwise have no prior contact with vtubers get introduced to them all at the same time. In a situation like that there will be quite a number of people who'd branch out as they look into just what the hell this vtuber thing is. Had NijiID not closed their doors they would've been in the perfect position to pick all those tourist up

>>23605691
NTA but honestly though, NijiID has way too many members. Anyone who's only beginning to check out vtubers would get overwhelmed almost immediately. With Hololive there are only 9 very distinct members.

I just saw a poster about Hololive x Valkyrie Connect and no Holo ID there. Is it too much to ask for one of them to be there? Maybe, yes. They don't have enough recognition for JP or Global market. However, at least, give them something! Promote them more! Don't make the same mistake as Niji!

>>23604983
If ID4 release after big event that draw attention to holoid i will firmly believe they did this on purpose. Pekomoon happen and they debut 2nd gen, people wants to see myth 3D debut at holofes to be completely blown out by moona and risu and they announce ID3. This cant be coincidence

>>23606102
Isn't Moona scheduled to be part of that WoWS collab?

>>23606102
Reine and Ollie have a convention meet & greet coming up. Risu became an ambassador of some sort. And a not-yet announced World of Warships collab with Moona in it.

>>23606209
Yes. But I said "promote them more". EN had dozens of collab event yet ID just got a few.

>>23604983
This is correct, and this answer my long-standing questions since January about where the hell is ID Gen 3.
Apparently they're waiting to debut them right after HoloFest, which is a great idea. I kneel, Yagoo.

I'm waiting for Area 15 3D debut stream. I want to see Moona moonwalking as she promised back then

>>23606850
I assume they wanna do it in Japan. Which I personally think would be better since they do have close relationships with some of their JP senpais. Doing any 3D events they wanna do after that would be easy in Indonesia seeing as they got a studio for Holofes.

>>23606179
>>23606543
the timing of ID Gens are insanely well timed or they're just super lucky, either way, it goes to show how debuting at the right time is a huge factor to success.

>>23605292
Indo has
>sizable amount of weebs, in Jakarta alone there's at least three annual matsuri/anime events (more pops than SK or Taiwan)
>untainted uncucked by Pooh menace (unlike PH)
>normalfag indogs already has good perception of Japanese (unlike SK/CN/HK) also largest JP market of consumer goods by volume in SEA/Pacific (unlike TH/VT/IN/AU)
>Fairly good selection of tourist destinations: there's a good chance the suits at those companies have visited Bali at least once (unlike MY/SG)
>cheap to market, only need Bahasa or English copywriting too (unlike SG/IN)
>largest twitter/soc medsphere in SEA-Pacific Islands (unlike everyone else including AU)

>>23606284
they have plenty already anonchama...
it's not like the ID is popular enough as JP or EN branch, but they are not abandoning the branch just like niji did.

>>23608561
Id3 is definitely planned to be released after Holofes on purpose
Don't know about ID2 though

>kaela got this much in a span of a week
what the fuck happened? does she already have her own gachikoi?

I used to like Katya from Aspira Project because she's cute and gave a unique experience. However, nowadays she usually begs for donation and pandering hard to coomer. I know that I'm insignifcant to her since I only donate to her casually, but I just want to rant my frustation.

>>23606102
Maybe the game doesn't see ID as a target market?

>>23617180
Yeah. Does it have Bahasa Indonesia on the game options?
There are lots of game ignoring the ID market. Probably it's one of them

Are there other small vtubers groups in Indonesia that have the potential to become bigger?

>>23620850
none unless they manage to poach someone who really good at moba or battle royale, if these small vtubers groups manage to grab the esport scene then i guaranteed they will become Indonesia version of vspo

>>23605373
>People who watch Hololive will stay with Hololive.
Yesn't
Jokes on you I also watch males.

>>23604203
true but she has learning bahasa stream featuring holomember, that can be used to at least learn some indo vocab, sentences, usual convo or smth

When Evelyn laughed she sounds like Risu.

>>23610919
>ID2
Myth debut hype

>>23605420
>Dismissed other reasons for her success even though majority agree she is blowing up because of it.
Take those things away and she will be just Gura 2.0 without something original

>>23622342
Gura 2.0 would still blow up so I fully understand your point

>>23606102
That game is not popular here

>>23611129
She got more donation everytime she read them in the sender languange. So when someone send her SC message in Spanish and Korean and she read it using their language usually they will send them again for that rush of happiness.

>>23622402
Gura has previous followings from her PL whereas Kobo is not, I just compare them in the what if scenario.

>>23611129
I saw some of the zeta gachi donate to her, seems like people finally understand her charm. She's probably the best zatsu streamer in holoid (after reine)

>>23601188
i will save them

>>23622629
huh, interesting.
>>23623013
it's wild. her SC total earning literally doubled just in a week.

>>23601188
Half of them are boring and untalented streamer compared to Maha5 and holoID standards

>>23625558
but a lot of people say ID Gen 1 are boring streamers

>>23625671
then they are much more boring than the bottom of the barrel of HoloID, that is gen 1.

>>23602429
Ollie unironically since she tends to use formal BI and translate what she said back and forth from BI to english. You might also want to try Iofi but she uses a lot of slang albeit not as much as gen 3.

>>23625671
Atleast HoloID Gen1 have another things to offer, 2 of them are Diva and they are working hard to reach their goals.

Lets shift the discussion a little from Holo topics shall we ?

let's continuing from last thread topic about :
> Maha5 JP went full niji and goes accelerating their talent without no support or promotion by their ID main branch
> Future of ID big indies like Mytia, Chloe or Epel and /asp/ for indo bros how to dive into harsh world of indie chuuba

I've never watch any vtubers recently because I like watching TV comedy skits on my youtube recommendations. That "Lapor Pak" show is funny as hell. Makes me realize that vtubers are fun, but in the end they're still a lower to medium level entertainment, still can't beat billion rupiahs entertainments.
Hopefully vtubers market is getting bigger and bigger so that we would see an ever increasing standard.

btw, it feels surreal seeing Reine's mom's name in a TV show credit screen

>>23605292
This post >>23608832 already answers your first question perfectly. For your second question, it's not exclusively ID trait but more like SEA since IIRC that holohistorian or something is from SG and I forget about egg and orcshizo but they aren't Indonesian
As for the last question, no one knows. That rrrat exists because Anya's opsec is too immaculate so much that no single confirmed info about her rm can be found which actually is quite weird since there's no way Cover would accept someone without any prior experience and/or online presence. From there, people then speculate that she's included as a package hire with Reine and if they didn't want to accept Anya, Reine won't join Hololive and some schizos conclude she must have a close relationship with Reine but she is/was a poorfag so, being Reine's maid is, for them, the only reasonable explanation for that

>>23625671
Risu isn't boring
Moona only gets boring when her autism flares up
I don't watch enough Iofi to comment on her but the few times I have watched her, it was fun
>>23626707
> Maha5 JP went full niji and goes accelerating their talent without no support or promotion by their ID main branch
But they're still doing pretty decently right? They can get over 1K viewers if they wanted.

any ID Vtuber like kronii? deep voice and doomer?
I need to watch something until kronii's back...

>>23601065
>advanced things in the industry like gossips
>advanced
>gossips
Kys trannie-kun

>>23626707
We can have 2 different discussions in a thread anon, no issue. You can continue discussion indie like mythi and the like.

Anyway, did you guys notice last night how Kobo got a bit lower viewer than usual? I started at 10pm WIB and she got only 4.8k, and a lot of IOPs said gak besa bahasa enggres
I guess it's true when they said that Kobo attracted many FB IOPs and bocil kematian. Not saying that she should not collab with EN though, expanding markets is always good.

>>23627165
>I started at 10pm WIB and she got only 4.8k,
I don't know what site you were tracking her anon but she got over 6K viewers. More actually, than her past collaborations.

>>23627119
Just look at Niji vs Holo battleground threads like /#/ or catalogue trolls, they're basically gossiping.
Men also loves to gossips, especially if it's about our tribalism instinct.

>>23626707
I mean using id branch to promote jp talent is not a good idea either, Maha5 subscribers mostly there to watch their skit and cover. The biggest "steamer" in maha5 is probably zen with his talkshow regularly hitting 3/4k, andi and alia is stuck in sub1k every stream, I don't watch the other 4 so I don't know their number. So I know it's cruel but I kinda agree with their idea making completely new fanbase in jp rather than expanding their ID fanbase.

>>23627079
Kaela and Nara

>>23627119
You should realize it when OP still chose to use lambe turah as the subject while most anons in the previous thread prefer to change it to either /RSJ or /Warkop/

>>23627067
Iofi is fun and chill, but sorry for any /pagi/ members here, she's sometimes being annoying. Just try to watch a few of her streams and most of you will understand what I mean.

>>23627079
Kaela is a Kronies so you should know what to expect
>>23627437
Nara is more bubbly tho imho and eventho she sometimes says some depressing stuff, she often said it with airhead-demeanor not calm-yet-depressing one like Kaela and Kronii
[Spoiler]Ela collabs with Mamaung for maximum prime hag energy when?[/spoiler]

>>23605292
Idk exactly but I guess it's safe to say that Indonesia had been one of the biggest recipient of Japanese investment since WW2, particularly since the 60s when the president transitioned to the 2nd president (New Order). For any indons, Malari Incident right?
On the cultural side, translated manga had been extant since at least the 80s, particularly shoujo manga. I mean, my mom is a weeb and had been reading manga since the 80s, and she's not even living in a major city (Malang). This is also probably enhanced by the early 2000s Sunday morning anime shows, I remember everything from Doraemon to HunterXHunter to Rave being dubbed and shown in Indonesia.
Also, the fact that 48group decided to go to Indonesia as the place for the first overseas branch, and that JKT48 actually successfully gone mainstream starting in 2011-2012 (which became a catalyst for various Idol groups like Cherrybelle and the like) probably give the impression to JP businesses that ID is the place to go if you want to expand any business.

>>23627165
She got 6k in the beginning, people start leaving after 1 hour because it's kinda late for Indonesian, even though it's still pulic holiday here but a lot of Indonesian is not on their own home, I mean I don't think you want to watch vtuber until 12am if you stay in your granny house with cousins etc

>>23627256
I'm watching from YouTube from around 10pm, more like 10.20pm actually. Idk how then, maybe Susan being an ass as usual.

>>23627674
Fair enough, may be that's the case, I'm actually having mudik now and stay and my grandma's house, didn't stop me to watch Kobo though.

>>23606102
Nah it's okay. It shows that Hololive management is confident with Holo ID's presence in Indonesian (or SEA in general) market. No one plays Valkyrie Connect in ID, so it's natural that ID isn't being included.
It's going to be different if there's a Korean or Chink game who wants to expand to SEA, Holo ID will definitely getting that sponsorship.

>>23627482
>most
More like 3 or 4 people, we haven't start the pool yet so I think it's better stay with ltg until someone make a pool

>>23627023
>poorfag
How the fuck she can speak japanese so fluently if she is/was a poorfag? Aren'tVisual Novel and Japanese manga an expensive stuff?

>>23627860
There's this thing called the internet anon

>>23627600
tell her to change her audio setup please. i will actually watch her stream if she do that.
>>23627165
it might be true. but somehow the remaining 4-5k viewers were staying on the collab. that's probably mean only small percentage of them being IOPs are getting filtered.

>>23620850
Define big and small in ID.
IMO the only big agencies in ID are only Holo ID and Maha5, the rest are small. I think Yume Reality looks solid and will have the potential to be big. Re: memories is just Chloe and her sidekicks (kinda like VOMS), if they can recruit another phenomenon on the same level as Chloe then they're set. I'm not sure about the others.

>>23626707
Mythia planned to get 3D, not sure about Chloe, and Epel will be hiatus due to irl issues. If you know what ID chuubas planned for the future, do tell the thread.

>>23627860
You can get all of those stuff in internet for free anon, risu probably the poorest before joining holo but she already have decent Japanese compared to moona who have pretty rich family, kaela most likely using 2 monitor setup but I don't think she can speak Japanese, kobo drive a car everywhere but her Japanese is only on weeb level. Iofi already playing ps4 games in the first month after her debut so it's not weird if she already take some jp class before, reine zeta and ollie already visit Japan before joining hololive so it's not weird they can speak Japanese decently

>>23626707
>>23627382
Andi has said it himself that the Maha5 management doesn't want the ID fanbase and JP fanbase to overlaps. You can see it in the Maha5 website that the company's vision is to provide a new way for advertising, so the aim of the company has always been to attract sponsors, and the overlapping fans won't be good for that.

But JP is an oversaturated market, it's seriously hard to gain a foothold there. What they need to do is to scout some exceptionally talented person to be their talents instead of using Niji's shotgun tactic by recruiting some randos.

>>23627860
>>23628662
Knowing Japanese shouldn't be about social class, it's about exposure to the culture whether it be through the internet or real life. The normies of the bunch clearly have the weakest Japanese.

>>23628385
If most smaller vtubers have 3D, I wish they can make some vtuber live like Vtuberfes, VILLS or Vcarnival

>>23627637
>spoiler
I'm actually curious to see who is holoid3 first collab partner with Nijiexid, I think all of gen1 and 2 already have collab with nijiid (except anya but she already had collab with nijijp few time) zetaxhana would be nice since they have similar game taste but I don't think that would never happen because Hana is really shy, kalea and nara is pure sex no doubt, kobo? I don't know who is her best collab partner.

>>23629184
>except anya
She has collabed with Siska

>>23629184
Kobo can play with Bobon in FPS games

>Bobon shill is here

>>23630149
Nope, as much as I want to watch their valo collab I don't think bobon can handle kobo childish pesona, also I can't stand how schizo going to use this for doom posting kek

>>23630805
Isn't this what uncle experiences in daily basis?

>>23629184
Kobo with nagisa, she's going to teach kobo how to curse in 6 different local languages.

>>23630901
>Implying Kobo can't swear in several local languages already

>>23627860
Im a slum poorfag anon, but i have N2 certificate on me tho

learning foreign languages is not limited to social class anon

>>23629184
Hopefully no one and never, rather have her collab with Nia Redallion

>>23631019
or with Alia or Lumi would be nice too

>>23627860
what is piracy?

>>23628385
So the 3d battlefield is gonna be really exciting for US
>holoID
>Maha5
>Miti
>Alterly

>>23629184
>>23631019
>>23631249
ex Niji ID isn't even an ID agency anymore. I would prefer she would collab with Maha5, it's perfect because their fanbase are full of kids like Kobo's.
Not with Zen tho, Alia it is.

>>23631692
It's hardly a battle if Hololive will just dominate completely

>>23628105
Ngl Yume concerns me rn, most of their chapter 1 are gone by mid may and idk id their new wave Jolly jungle did well enough under this pressure from their graduating senpais

>>23601188
Wow to the point lmao

>>23632078
I admit I also don't really know much about them especially their management. But I've watched Sena and her frog kouhai and they looks good enough.

>>23606102
I think its on developer choice

>>23632078
Why does Shia graduate tho?

>>23631692
Actually, I'm not sure what kind of 3D will Miti get. She said 2 days ago that her donothon that will start today is for procuring 3D equipments.

>>23627645
Japanese always have that soft spot towards Indonesia. I remember reading that in WW2, Java is the best place for any Japanese soldiers stationed overseas. Every soldiers envied their friends who got an order to occupy Java. Java was relatively safe, plentiful of foods, and most importantly a similar culture. There was a saying "Solomon islands is a fighting hell, Burma is a disease ridden hell, Java is heaven".

I think to this day they still think that Indonesia has one of the most similar culture to them overseas, combine with big population and they have a perfect place to expand their business.

>>23631692
Add virtunix

>>23631996
Nah Zen is actually okay he's funny

but i just wish that Maha5 girls member collabing with HoloID girls more rather than Zen

>>23633731
And also Lumi is kinda perfect collab partner with kobo

imagine double blue cunny bantering each other, would be fun

I always hear anycolor not support ID enough was one of the reasons why it failed but does a company properly sitting their talent look like? I was under the impression that niji ID staff was very well-liked by both talent and fans and doing some basic research niji ID got original songs, official programs, merch, sponsorships, and even the opportunity for 3D. Although they didn't get some of the more extravagant merch like JP does if you ignored the low numbers this doesn't give me the impression they weren't supported well enough

>>23630797
Bobon is a nice chuuba tho, one of the only bro chuuba that speaks English; everyone else is fujobait

>>23633731
I don't have anything against Zen, he's cool indeed. But I feel like the other members should represent themselves more outside of their own circle, because unlike Niji ID where most are just mediocre streamers, Maha5 is full of genuinely entertaining people. It's sad that they have the reputation of being vtubers with kiddie fanbase, they have the capability to be liked by average young adult vtubers enjoyer like us here, by breaking out of their shell.

>>23633397 (me)
btw I remember that someone from reddit said this. So taht anyone won't call me delusional or overproud or anything.

>>23633173
She admitted on kikebook that Yume offered her contract renewal (In YuMe that happened annualy) which she rejected

>>23635344
Does she want to retire completely or does she want to reincarnate as an indie?

>>23634835
I thought they already did that, I believe Nia had this nataru series where the contacted some chuubas outside their circle

>>23635455
Idk if she plants to reincarnate but after her grad she wants to deal with her rl happenings first

Good afternoon indo and SEAbros
with soon to be implemented raid system on YT, do you think ID vtuber and streamer in general will use it to raid each other? say windah raiding kobo, etc
also enjoy your Opor Ayam

>>23636410
There are certain guidelines to follow before raiding someone and a lot of it depends on the channel you would want to raid. I don't think Hololive would allow raids from outsiders. It can work on the indie or small corpo scene though, but it would heavily increase the number of dead subs among channels. Actual Youtubers raiding Vtubers won't help in the long run though.

>>23636864
I don't really follow 3dpds In Indonesia but are dead subs really prevalent among them tho?

>>23637025
Not sure, but I was mostly talking about vtubers. Viewers getting forced to their channel, watch them for a few minutes or hours, subscribes, never watches them again.

>Holo collab beggar contained here
good keep begging here, just don't bring your shit to generals.

>>23635461
And it resulted in her becoming more confident now. You have no idea how shy she was back in her early streams. That's what I mean.

>>23633207
Probably gonna look like early 3d chuubas on id like Tessa or hibiki

>>23637716
Is she the most shy among gen2? I thought that would be Lumi ngl

>>23637704
i would like to watch moona-mythia collab just because it's funny inside my head

>>23637704
well that's not their fault, everyone want their favorite chuba to collab with a surperior Holos.

>>23636410
Dunno about youtubers, but ID vtubers will definitely do that kind of things, except Holo ID I think. Although someone like Ollie will use it, if it's not forbidden.
The sense of unity is very strong among ID, and raids will make the ties even stronger.

>>23637897
>The sense of unity is very strong among ID
Soekarno would be proud.

>>23637704
I'm not really talking about collab with Holos specifically, now that ID scene is getting bigger they should collab with each other, no matter who they are.

God, holofans are a bunch of elitists. That's why I only watch Holo ID without meddling with the community, people like you especially the veteran ones are so obnoxious and arrogant.

>>23637704
well everyone going to call it leeching, but we know Holofans only watch Hololive.

>>23627858
>Poll
Okay here you go
http://poal.me/cbthde

>>23638070
>>23638084
Leeching or not consider this
>There are a lot of paperworks needed to collab with holo
>That already filtered a lot of chuubas from collabing with them
>Only a few chads who still dared to m Chan that they wanted to collab with holos
>Therefore these chads should be respected and honored for satisfying holo standards

>>23638070
there no benefit from collabing with 2views, yes they allowed to have fun but still Collabs outside Holo circle is a debuff, because most holofans only watch Hololive.

>>23638070
>Bite a baitpost
NGMI

>>23638264
>>There are a lot of paperworks needed to collab with holo
Where did you get this idea from?

>>23638397
Shuba and Monke-Treerat pointed it out

>>23638070
leeching is leeching
and you coat that with this "Unity" bullshit
NO, they are corporated, like it or not, there will always be competition.

>>23637806
Lumi is. At least Nia is confident enough now, but Lumi is still shy.
I remember when she did her 3d debut, she was shocked to know that 2.5k people were watching her. The staff said that Lumi always hides her viewers numbers because she's too shy to know that many real people are watching her.

>>23638285
>>23638477
okay chill bro, you're not wrong, but no need to be rude.

>>23638477
Are you even an Indonesian if you can't admit that leeching is the norm irl? We live In the land of kekuatan orang dalam ffs, fuck off with your no leech allowed utopia, leeching adalah kunci

>>23638397
holos busy nowadays, schedule packed, lot of paperwork to greenlit a collab etc
https://youtu.be/vIvuGHKgw0w

>>23638285
>>23638477
Yeah sure whatever, if you want to call it leeching then fine. I'm not talking about Holo ID anymore. I want my favorite vtubers to collab with other ID vtubers EXCEPT HOLO ID.

>>23638616
>admitting everyone leeching the Holo
your welcome, it's not that hard to admit isn't it.

>>23638616
Yes this runs deep in our blood vein

Call it leech or anything i don't care, it's always nice if you have friend in higher place or power

>>23638672
good, fuck off

>>23638654
Oh, yeah. I guess that makes sense with how much work they do.

>>23638616
Based and KKN-pilled

>>23638672
>>23638685
I guess it's clear who loves to baiting and flame all of the tribalposting all this time

>>23638672
but your oshi want to collab with holoid for clout, what can you do?

>>23638831
It's sad that one person can ruin the discussion with just shitposting

>>23638831
>can't come up with good argument
>called it bait
just admitting that you want your favorite chubas to collab with hololive because you want them to got exposure and growth, it's not really hard.

I just want Risu to play a TRPG

>>23638831
I understand now why we had a good discussion in the last thread. We rarely talk about that particular agency in the last thread.
I also understand now why EOPs in this board (basically a Holo board) always blaming indogs and seaniggers for being schizo.

>>23638994
yes and yes, you happy now.

>>23639016
>We rarely talk about that particular agency

>>23638245
I was the one who proposed /bpjs/ , but now that I think about it /warkop/ is better.

>>23638994
That is literally the point of collabs. Even interbranch collabs in Hololive, deep-down the point of it is to give each member growth and exposure. Don't forget that the top ID chuuba in Hololive became the top because of what you proclaim to be "leeching".

>>23639016
yes if you're regular from /moon/ or /ehe/, they're the same baitposter with same speech pattern

since this is their containment area as well, might as well get used to them

just ignore and don't feed them with (you)'s

>>23639112
agreed, also no one denying moona leeching off pekora, but she could grow on her own through her music

>>23639033
fair enough, just keep you begging posts contained here, other than that have a nice day.

>>23639112
nah they came from the same circle, there's no competition there.

>>23639113
Yeah, I'm /moon/ regular and I know it's a bait. Just ignore them since it's the best thing we can do to keep this thread civil
>>23639112
People even forget that vtuber was originally built from lots of collabing and networking and that's even true for Hololive and even if they're getting busy nowadays so they can't really collab as much as they used to do
>>23639092
Yeah I mean we gossip and talk about all sort of things and topics with strangers in warkop while drink some coffee or eat some bubur kacang ijo/ketan

>>23639273
Anon, there's competition everywhere

>>23639367
>Competition
Name me one agency that fades into irrelevancy because they're collabing too much not because of its mismanagement, false charge from their chuuba, fraud, etc.

>>23639365
Indeed warkop is the best, if we want RSJ or BPJS then it looks like we are harboring schizos while actually it's not true. For the most part this kind of thread is pretty chill.

>>23639365
Idk if they are the same people who popularize the leech bad and collab beggar narrative yet failed to see how jobs elsewhere also demands networking and Collaboration skills, vtubers are not different In that subject either

>>23639476
nijiid

>>23639492
These people have no fucking experience in the entertainment industry or at least knowledge of it. That's why they call interactions and collabs leeching.

>>23639603
Ah, I see so you really don't know what you're talking about. Good to know

>>23634204
ID was supported in terms of having a nice work environment but not in terms of promotion.
anycolor sucks at actually promoting their foreign branches, EN only got decent promotion because anycolor was forced to try too in order to gain a foot hold.
>>23638285
gated communities end up with the most delusional cultures forming.
holo collabing now would sow seeds to allow for the growth of the medium and there for their own growth.
short term they may not gain much but having people respect your brand for more then "theyre the most popular" is better for the future when the inevitable fall off happens where either someone over takes holos spot as number 1 or holo implodes for whatever reason.
nothing lasts forever so having good connections to the rest of the world will save their asses when the day comes.
>>23638477
everything in life is leeching anon, youre leeching oxygen from the planet as we speak but no one cares that they are because plants leech the co2 we make.

>>23639603
>NijiID
Was a walled garden.
I like how it's reversed now, no one call HoloID leeches.

Hey, how much do you guys think is the cost of making a 3D model in the same level as Hololive and Nijisanji?
I know Mythia has talked about it before, and it costs about Rp60M. But isn't that the Maha5 level of 3D?

>all these schizos
This is why I don't post much about HoloID and NijiID on previous thread

>"ID Unity" bla....bla....bla.....
>"Holo must Collab with 2views"
>"please watch other ID vtuber, they're dying"
>tribalfags schizo le lo le lo le

NO, I only watch HololiveID
have fun with your 2views,
and yeah bonni I know you here, stop begging to collab with Hologirls, know your place.

>>23640019
Mood besar
I really wanna talk more about maha5 and other corpos In ID but now I wonder are they even that deep into our chuuba scene?

Okay let's just ignore baitposts and if you think it's too much, just hide and report it

>>23639918
>anycolor sucks at actually promoting their foreign branches
Yeah take a look at this >>23635341 the lack of promotion isn't only the ID thing, other branches also complaining about it.
If the rrat is true then it explains a lot, why Nijisanji seems to always takes a short sighted decision.

>>23640076
He already collabed with Hologirls anon

>>23640271
yeah he did, then stop begging

>>23640089
If you discuss non-holos, schizo EOPs wouldn't be able to keep up. The shitposters on previous thread is using religion to de-rail the thread.
>>23640146
Under what category should I report them?

>>23640290
No, (You) stop dictating what can anons say in this place.

>>23640076
Go make your own HololiveID general than, retard. Stop being a bitch.

Didn't take long for schizos to migrate to this place

Holo has mostly done a good job of gatekeeping bad actors from the fanbase and converting newfags into loyal viewers, with help from the talents themselves and their structured approach to expansion.
I hope you IDbros are able to continue the tradition and assimilate the ID newfags properly.

>>23640312
>If you discuss non-holos, schizo EOPs wouldn't be able to keep up
Indeed, they already have their own generals after all.

okay real talk now, which chuuba is definitely the most devout muslim

>>23640412
stop discussion hololive here then you 2 views fags you can't even ran a good discussion without mentioning Hololive here,

>>23640312
Trolling

>Genuinely thought this place would be full of spicy stuff
I came here disappointed.

>>23640386
Cringe, and please stop begging

>>23640436
yesterday anon was right, if we make this thread everyday then some schizo will ruin this place. Let's just wait until Saturday while we collect some more information. This thread got easily derailed because there's not much to discuss anymore.

Get out Holofags, you already got your generals, this place is for NijiID, Maha5, and indiefags since we doesn't have our generals

>>23640563
Thank you
But I'm gonna wait till Maghrib and see if it gets any better or worse

>>23639933
wouldnt say ID was walled gardened, more so reclusive and too shy to collab outside themselves, which is its own problem.
all of holo has been walled garden since they got popular in the west, mainly because of management blocking most people from even connecting with them, let alone collabing.
>>23640223
ever since niji IN thats been apparent.
though for posterity sake, niji IN did get inside promotion like being part of nijievents but failed to even try to promote it to the target audience of india.
they didnt even try to promote it to the english when they rebranded it to EN.
and i almost never heard anything from KR other then bad things so there wasnt any PR to counter act the bad PR.

>>23640698
>Holofags
More like EOP schizos

stop replying to bait, falseflagging, samefagging, or the schizo...

just watch Reine first RFA right now
https://youtu.be/R6IWfqpwSbU
https://youtu.be/R6IWfqpwSbU

>>23640698
hey I'm a holofag too, but I'm not that mentally ill to do something so low like trolling my fellow countrymen.

>>23640698
anon... those schizos got ignored in their general that's why they came here. we should ignore them too

yaudah deh kita ngomong Indo aja, njing. bule ngentot emang.

indie favorit kalian siapa aja?

>>23640525

I only watch kobo to be honest first non cringe vtuber from my country

>>23640774
At the start some people accusing HoloID leeching off of NijiID
Some anons here pointed out that Risu's replies to their tweets were ignored

>>23640588
Cringe, and please stop trolling

Even if someone replying to a bait, always remember that it might be the baitposter who just samefaggingm. Just ignore and hide it altogether

>>23640880
gtfo

>>23622287
Did you Forgot PekoMoon, NNN, and HoloFest 2 Hype ?
ID Gen2 Debut before HoloFest 2 held, and got a same time with PekoMoon Official Collab.

wkwkkwk, lucu juga liat bule marah bilang gtfo. gak peduli gua kena ban, mampus gak ngerti

>>23640615
this

>>23640920
I think it's some kind of winner syndrome. I remember watching Hana's past stream in mid 2020 (back when Hana was bigger than Holo ID) and when I looked at the comment section, a viewer ask Hana to do a collab with HoloID and then the replies were filled with Niji fans accusing Holo of trying to leech.

Just remember that empires rise and fall, don't be too arrogant when we are at the top, because someday we will fall.

this is the top comment on Zen's Stream whare's he mentioned collab with Kobo,
just keep your shit away from Hololive please.

>>23640880
wkwk nanti di-nuke gan threadnya woles aja yang penting jangan digubris kontol-kontol itu
Oshi ane sih Moona cuma kalau indie yang ane ikutin kadang-kadang paling fre doang sekarang. Dulu sih selain dia, lumayan sering juga nonton Mine, Miti, dan beberapa indie lainnya + agensi kecil kayak Alia, Shia sama Ranran cuma udah mager sekarang wkwk

>>23641262
forgot the pic

>>23641309
based af

>>23641309
based fuck that monkey

>>23622287
>>23641077
More correctly, ID2 announcement is at the same day as the first pekomoon collab. The announcement is in the morning while the Collab is later that night

That timing was clearly intentional

>>23641309
Yes this makes sense

i'll patiently wait the day they collab and make antis schizos seethe hard

>>23641309
he deleted my comment tho, fucking pussy.

>>23641309
Based.

>>23640880
Don't. Keep speaking English anon.

>>23628803
I guess soon it will be held

Besides, it's really strange since Maya Putri return after Area15 showed on HoloFest..

>>23641309
fucking leech monkey got reality checked.

>>23640791
>RFA
Will this hag make it?

ZEN I KNOW YOU ARE /HERE/ DON'T MIND THESE SCHIZOS AND PLEASE DO A COLLAB OR TWO WITH KOBO FOR THAT KINO.

>>23640880
>Indie
Mociren is cute and hilarious, he's a kusogaki
But he didn't make me a gosling. I wonder if it's alright to write it here, it's about someone else. Heart poop alert

There's someone I fell in love with deeply.
I'm so love struck with him ever since I first heard his voice. He's not a vtuber btw (well at the time), he's an utaite.
I found out like two weeks before new year, that he has a newly formed relationship (girlfriend) ;_; and he posted that on Facebook. However there's nothing about his girlfriend on his YouTube channel. It's not like he's lying or anything or trying to hide his relationship, but I felt shat on, for some reason.
I spent my new year crying. I thought I'm ready to move on, BUT THEN
He streamed with a vtuber model and I enjoy the stream. I forgot for a moment that he's someone's boyfriend and sent some questionable chats to him like I would do on vtubers.
Since then, I feel repulsed whenever I look at his face on his thumbnails.
It's like my brain is trying to erase his real face from my memory.
I fell in love again with him, the 2d gepeng version of him.
Anons, is it strange? If I love his 2d version but not his real meat self.
I mean He's technically the same person, right?
How do you cope if you find out your oshi ia dating someone or even married?
I'm looking for similar stories to share this pain with

>>23639934
Making it is one thing, but they still need 3D studio and staff to supervise

>>23641309
>Intercompany collab ban
That is reasonable 2bh but I wonder how long ideally should he wait until he can ask M-chan for collabing with Kobo?
>>23642401
L O N D O N ?
O
N
D
O
N
?
shitpost aside, I never understand why people don't want their oshi to be in relationship when they never sell GFE/BFE to their fans. Then again, it's not weird to love 2D version of him if he's on a different persona when he becomes someone else when he streams and love is strange 2bh

>all these talk about leech monke
>Meanwhile andi knows reine
>They never seen each other again ever since her reincarnation

>>23641826
her back and knee... she is ngmi...

>>23642796
Shame, i love their cover song collab

>>23642401
hoo rare indo femanon

i do have this same experience actually

well at 1st i was a avid fans of one of ID chuuba, then i join doxxcord channel to find out how is she in RL

Turns out she's a 10/10 my type, but my dreams and hope didn't last long since there's info that she's gonna married

well i watch her stream till now tho, but it feels different compares to when i watch her at 1st time

>>23641309
basado, just wait 2-3 months you grey monkey

>>23642796
Reine is Based so do Andi,
but Zen is a narcissistic fuck, there's a reason why he chose monkey Avatar.

>>23641405
Man imagine other branches also use this method, the hype would be insane. ID market is like pandora box, you can get 3 times pekora numbers if you pandering hard but what comes with it is a disaster like no one ever seen. Kobo only got a tiny piece of it so everything looks good for now

>>23641309
Fuck that guy, zen just collab with kobo already, valorant or something

>>23643022
>he chose monkey Avatar
His is the only male model of her gen

>>23643084
keep begging beggar, it's funny when you do.

why don't you begging in HoloID general and see the reaction.

What do you guys think about Kaela? Her schedule is easily the best out of then other two of her gen but she struggles in numbers

>>23643400
anon that's why we have this thread, most Holofans especially EOPs only watch Hololive, they will told you to fuck up.

>>23640698
>OP pict cleary used holoID member
>nooooooo holofags get out!!!!!!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>23641706
is it confirmed that maya putri is alia? if so why would she back to her old avatar, alia is cuter and fit her personality the most imo

>>23643418
She's having a stable fans even gachis so it's all alright with her

her schedule may be great and packed but being endurance streamer from the start is a little bit concerning desu, im just hoping that she has a fit body and cares about it

>>23643418
At least she have a Niche market
But IDK...

Call me schizo if u want, but i guess Kaela will get Partnership with LOL/Blizzard soon

And Maybe Aqua will playing LOL again ???

>>23643657
It just "Fan Theory", don't take it seriously

But I guess Maya Putri Return wasn't Coincidence at all, and don't forget Maya Putri have a collab with Fubuki back then before HoloID exist...

>>23641706
maybe she got her permission to stream as maya back? maya was owned by glico to test the id market for vtubers, once they gathered all the data they need, maya got postponed, they send all gathered data back to any company who willing to buy it, anycolor and cover take the bait and start to build their id branch

>>23641309>>23641309
i see multiple times this guy deleted someone's comments, only this one is survive..

>>23601188
What do you mean?
They are on their way to the top by merging with jp branch!

>>23644225
Maybe the other one straight up calling him out and hurt his feeling? This one kinda supportive with a little bit warning for both side situation ( most of it regarding kobo tho ). My guess is this guy still living in his glorious past when moona is a 3view chuuba and he can interact with her almost every stream, now he wants to try his luck again

>>23603131
>-despite the "slow and steady" meme, Riku valued short term profits over long term sustainability and cut their legs out from under them just before they could potentially benefit from the increased attention holoID brought to the industry
You're completely delusional. Niji ID had two years in the market and barely grew in that period. None of that is "short term profits".

>>23643418
What are you talking about, do you see her last raft stream, she streaming for 10 hours and keep the ccv in 1k+ the only downfall is when kobo start streaming. Just wait under she get addicted to buff game like minecraft

>>23640223
>Yeah take a look at this >>23635341 the lack of promotion isn't only the ID thing, other branches also complaining about it.
What is written in there is literally the own opinion of the guy whos very much known as a holofag. There's nothing stated by any member complaining about promotion so I have no idea why you are using this as some sort of source.

>>23640525
the one that wear hijab, she doin quran reading stream a lot, i forgor her name tho.

>>23644586
Anon holo id despite taking a firm foot on ID market they also face the same problem, being side a branch in japanese company is pretty much like this. The biggest ever promotion holo id get in their first year came from a fucking rabbit with minecraft autism, they wait almost 2 years for standing along side main branch on a stage. Please tell me what niji ID get, fusion to main branch ?

>>23644078
I wonder if glico actually cooperated with MAHA5 ?
And Maya Putri returned coz they're know ID Market Nowadays is more inclined ?

>>23644586
That's not the point, have you ever been a Niji ID fan? I have, and I did feel the lack of support from the management (mainly the central management).
That guy also feels the same way, him being a holofag doesn't really matter, even it could be a good indicator that he's not biased because he can compare. Me, beside a Niji ID fag, was also a Holo ID fag, so I can compare the two, and I did feel the discrimination is stronger in Niji sphere.

None of Niji ID also ever complained about the lack of promotion, but if both ID fan like me and JP fan like him feels the same way, then maybe there's some truth in that analysis.

>>23644078
Wait how do you know this? This is new for me even as a Maha5 (and of course Maya) fan.

Instead of a collab stream, they should just make it an event like reality show games with many faction instead.
Idol culture makes it hard to collab with others but if it's a special event like those reality shows it's supposed to be fine.
But the truth is Holo member is actually busy with their own inside projects, so it's highly unlikely that they will interact with others

>>23645199
Muse ID on occasion did some anime related events with vtubers from various background and platforms. they even invited Miori to one of their events
https://youtu.be/iu2JuCHiZQ4

>>23640920
That was just niji being sus over holo tho, you can see it repeat itself with EN nowadays

>>23645199
we had this a week ago: https://youtu.be/V-9J8a-K4iA

>>23645199
Just make an annual 17an event. It's peak Indonesian cultural event right there.

>>23645548
Muse ID, Daem... The absolute unitychads
>anime quiz's
>DbD screamfest
>ngapex tourney
>Janji
>virtualcraft
>and now MIA streamers
Are there any other indochad as unitychad as them?

>>23604203
Is she even capable of speaking ID? I don't watch Hololive since I have a personal policy to refuse watching/listening/reading any franchises with "Live" in it (fucking thanks L*veLive), but I figured since she's upper-class she would only be raised to use English only, a common problem with pompous cunts over at Pondok Indah, Pluit, PIK, or Kelapa Gading.

>>23646149
it's her native language

>>23646149
It is her first language, and she's shown no issues in collabs with other ids which are almost always done entirely in Indonesian

>>23646344
>>23646399
Well good for her I guess.
I have seen some shit when I installed internet lines at these locations, so I'm a bit apprehensive with these upper-class types.

>>23644831
Yes I have, i got into nijisanji via niji id in 2019 and im not even indonesian. Niji ID had a ton of things happening with it from merchandise to original songs to events, sponsorships and much more so it really wasn't a lack of effort.
As for JP, what I dont believe is on this guys thing of members complaining about it in JP which isnt true and him talking about woman when Nijisanji just released a merchandise with many women.
Lastly, if we go by your perspective, theres fans who believe the contrary of you like me so... who is right?

>>23646537
It's interesting tho, all these words and tbfh the ID chuuba that struggle the most in speaking ID is Mika, heck her ID is even worse than Hanabi and she's in tsun an NA agency ffs

>>23645548
>>23645649
Do HoloIDs ever join this kind of event? Is this kind of event new or do we have this in the last 2 year?
>>23645665
Do HoloIDs have some kind of special 17th august event before?

>opens Facebook after 5 years not accessing it
>finding out one of my friend/acquaintance from a drawing manga hobby group is now a vtuber
Kek
How small is this world
These otaku hobby groups are really the birth place of vtubers....

>>23646149
She has a whole series of collabs with HoloJP in which she teaches them basic Indonesian words and phrases. I need to rewatch the one with Coco, shit was hilarious.

>>23638070
No benefit lol

>>23646812
Iofi? Zeta?

>>23646771
>Do HoloIDs have some kind of special 17th august event before?
tbf do they even give a single shit to ID aside of the name and the roster? don't think they do any events that remotely introduce ID except on their chuubas individual shows

>>23646771
>>23646999
I know nijikeks never watch holoid before but plese do your own research before use your dirty keyboard for shitposting

>>23643418
>HoloID
>Averaging 1k+ ccv
>100M IDR after 1 month

What? She's the bottom of HoloID but if you compared her to other ID chuuba, she's in a good position

>>23646771
>Do HoloIDs have some kind of special 17th august event before?
No. They can do 17san tourney if they want to but they don't have enough members for ID-only events.
Inviting outsider chuubas require effort and actual prizes for winners which is not profitable imho. With Holo-only tourney you don't need to give an actual prize for the winner, see : Holo Minecraft sport fes, jump king and Pokemon tourneys

>>23645199
>Reality Show
Ah Yes, i think a same thing when HoloID Gen2 get 3D too...
It's a Good Concept for Channel HoloID besides HoloGura but ID Version...

More like "OVJ (old one) but HoloID"

>>23647191
>100M per month
Jesus I'm surprised Sri Mulyani hasn't knock their doors yet

>>23647259
Didn't mooner admitted that she has high tax thx to her holoearnings?

>>23647259
she is already do that tho... holoid chuuba taxes are at some small company ceo level.

>>23647258
>OVJ (old one) but HoloID
Just bring someone's mother and broadcast it live and bam, instant profit.

>>23646999
and? people mad about them? people accuse them not patriotic enough? people force them to close ID branch? people force them to graduate?

>>23646812
Same thing happen to me btw...
But it's so sad he just small indie, even he's debuted since 2020...

Back then, he was VN & Monster Hunter addict...

>>23647444
All it takes is one politician to goreng the issue especially since 2024 is coming and we have kang demo anti asing aseng at the Japanese embassy's doorstep
And to be honest, I like the chaos so sign me the fuck up

>>23647444
>replying to obvious bait

>>23647259
Sri Mulyani tax holo members and not the cover. because cover dont have office branch in here

>>23647540
Come on anon, it's fun and i don't have anything to do anyway

>>23647583
>inb4 niji id got merged only to escape from tax overlord Sri Mulyani

>>23647396
>Bring Your Mother to Broadcast
IDK why
but for me, This concept is not interesting anymore...

>>23647680
Poor wording there, not really "bring", but "contact". Contact someone's mother, get a broadcast deal, and you're set.

>>23647596
Anon, you can do something useful than this

I feel sad that other SEAchuubas aren't really discussed here. /svt/ never managed to take off and the only time I see threads discussing SEAchuubas is when yabs happen.

>>23645199
lmao just ask them sing another Indonesia folk song medley its already enough to satisfy sobat rahayu

>>23647583
>>23647637
So that's why Reine speak English most of the time. She's avoiding Dewi Sri's wrath.

>>23647731
>i feel sad that a general for ID vtubers only talks about ID vtubers
gee i fuckin wonder why

>>23647637
yeah this why moona >>23647337 talk about tax in her stream because IRS can only shot at holomembers earnings, also another reason why Indonesia dont have superchat that fat cunt Susan dont want to pay her tax

Is Zen actually pretty hated here? I like his voice and antics, reminds me of my older brother.

>>23647870
Here as in /vt/ anon not this thread

>>23647680
Bring your baby nephew and pretend you are their mother

unironically Reine is the reason why holoid holding back, she can ask bootleg joe rogan for podcast and i guarantee you the next day you will hear emak emak talk about vtuber

>>23647924
If you ask incels here, sure. Zen's content speaks to me on a personal level so I actually like him.

>>23647924
No, only Unicorns, and don't believe anyone who says otherwise

>layla's stream gets less than 100 viewer
Fuck

>>23647884
>another reason why Indonesia dont have superchat that fat cunt Susan dont want to pay her tax
Tbf if you ask most IDs whether they'd rather trust their bucks on Susan or Sri I bet they'd pick Susan

>>23648064
B-but anon, 30% cut from Susan...

>>23648010
Fuck no, I don't want that bald fuck and his viewers anywhere close to the IDchuuba scene. That type of audience would quickly alienate the core viewers and they'll start demanding ridiculous things

>>23647522
>one politician to goreng the issue
This is why we should gatekeep, not for the retarded muh elitism issue like what discordniggers do, but for picrel. Imagine the headline "a corrupt Gerindra official is using vtubers to money launder" then spiraled to misunderstandings and misinformations.
I don't want this hobby getting politicized and stigmatized by the media.

>>23647731
Indonesia presence in this website is inclining, you can check the /asean/ general it full with Indonesia

There's a severe lack of images in this thread. What kind of shitty warkop has no snacks?

>>23647924
Most Holofags found him annoying, I think that's all.

>>23647731
every time /svt/ created, it was mostly discussing obscure ID chuubas, not SEA vtubers in general

>>23648132
Serious question
>are there even koianons here?
If there's some we should run our own koi collection like horni or /lig/

>>23648010
>you will hear emak emak talk about vtuber
"kamu tuh ya udah teriak teriak gakjelas masih aja jadi beban, liat itu anak tetangga teriak ga jelas dapet duit sampe bapak kamu aja nyawerin duit ke dia"

>>23648124
if Yagoo want ID Holofes thats the quickest acceleration for it

https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1521515880261513216
>replies to cunny art
only indo or japanese vtubers can get away with this, and even this case is extreme

>>23647722
Like what?

>>23647924
Zen knows gen 1 and I don't think he has negative issues with them or their fans.
Zen seem obnoxious to many /vt/ anons because Ollie is always enabling his blatant "leeching". Ollie always said, hey this is my friend x from y, say hi to him, then chat getting de-railed. So whenever her mods are there on chat, zomrades are saying hi to them, this habit is carried to other HoloID members chat, and oldfags getting uppity about it

>>23648145
Maybe because he often derails HoloID chat.

>>23647637
Really? I don't think they even pass PTKP lol

>>23648188
That's because there's only 2 OPs for /svt/
>Me who only knows about ID scene
>Other OP who focuses on kavvaii
Neither of us knows much about other sea scene who are also inclining as we speak like PH,TH and VN, their anons were never there in the first place

>>23648188
>Only ID, not SEA
Is this a Reason why flips always trolling in every Thread ?

speaking of collab any chance for Kobo collab with Windah? from looking at the comments section, there are fuckton of Kobo viewers who have no problem with it.

>>23648339
So they jelly because Zen gets all the pussies
Got it

>>23648495
I'm actually pretty okay with that guy, but some attention-whore like zen Nah.

>>23648321
Do little thing like "Cleaning your house" or something

>>23648495
Pretty low for the time being, you need to jump through a lot of hoops for external collabs to take place.

>>23648548
Already did it anon, i literally don't know what to do, so i shitpost and responding to bait instead

>>23648495
>30k vs 4k
There's a reason why Holos and vtubers in general are not collabing with fleshtuber. Some of fleshtuber fans might not like vtubers as a concept. It's not hurt to try but a steady growth like HoloID is more preferable than an explosive growth like mythia.

>>23648615
I mean, aside of Yagoo's approval, what more do you need? It's just Windah, it's not like she wants to collab with Rossa so that they need to contact her management in addition to record labels and whatnot or Kaesang so they need the contact the Ministry of State Secretariat.

I'm sorry anon I was just reposting

fucking pussy monkey deleted my comment, coward should use a kitten avatar instead of a monkey.

>>23648762
I'm a baka and I meant to reply to this >>23648231

>>23648792
Njer wkwkwkwwk

>>23648495
Maybe, but i don't know if the benefit outweight the downside

>>23648738
speaking of approval is it really that hard to get permission for indonesia karaoke song? i though majority of indonesia musician belong to Nagaswara

>>23648495
By those schizos' standard above, Kobo will be leeching off Windah. I hope they're still consistent by not pushing it because why would Windah, a 5 digit views streamers give any attentions to a 4 views streamers?

I'm a real fan of her so I would support any attempts of collabs, be it with someone on the higher level of her or someone on the lower level as long as she enjoys it. I would prefer her getting 10k more normies viewers than 100 more elite civilized viewers[/spolier]

>still no Dota buddies to play with
pain

>>23648792
Based monke, should make you seethe more

>>23648914
Didn't she play with Zen and Upi?
Within NijiID there's potentially Taka and Bobon but they don't seem to keen on un-retiring

>>23648893
>i though majority of indonesia musician belong to Nagaswara
Most dangdut and late 2000s-mid 2010s galau artists, sure.
But not the true big dogs.

>>23648792
>GTA SA Mod
Man, Why "No One" of any VTubers Following RADAL or AVGN/Caddicarus like Content like Playing GTA SA and POSTAL 2 or "Even" Playing Shitty Games ?

>>23648899
>spoiler
We need more sane fans like you

>>23648914
Kaelas was og dota player she transition to LoL though, Kaela have bigger possibility playing ML than Dota kek

>>23648792
i like your comment a lot, based, why would he delete it, its so funny

>>23648938
what based for being a pussy, did my words hurts him?, potong aja tuh kontol

>>23649067
I thought Moonton have a connection with Chink

>>23649104
HoloID is bebas aktif
JP has problem with Chinks but not ID.

>>23649095
Because It's hurting him gugugaga, tipis banget punya pantat

>>23648288
Wow, spicy.
How brave of her, I guess she already has the chad mentality by now, forged when she got that unprecedented popularity and the following dramas.

>>23649067
>If only Blizzard make Dota for mobile version

>>23649101
more that anyone should not read your shit comment, anon.

>>23649133
Whoops, exchange chink and JP there

>>23649101
yeah seethe more

also his dick maybe bigger than yours

>>23649154
Baptism by fire does that to you

>>23649219
Blizzard had no DoTA rights since like 2012 though

>>23648792
Okay this one is funny, but if it's got deleted maybe it's one of his mods

>>23649242
>>23649290
your chubas keep leeching on holos, hate me all you want, but that's a fact

>>23649299
ah silly me, now Valve has the right

>>23649104
montoon parent company is the one who own Tiktok, HoloID have tiktok account

>>23648792
Lol, his content is boring, can't take criticism

>>23644780
>glico with maha5
what i understand was glico sponsored the id's market research, idk if they decided to use their own researched data that have been bought by other companies to making their own chubbas, which kind of unprofessional in my opinion if its true

>>23648952
I want Kobo to sing Dewa 19 songs tho

>>23647924
He is okay, he is a bro. But sometimes he is clueless about things, this is not the first time some Holo ID fans throwing hates towards him. But you know what, I think Maha5 has a top notch management and damage control, so far they never had any big drama despite their fanbase is mostly normies kiddies. Could be that the one deleting stupid comments is his manager.

>>23649344
Yes actually

can't wait to see you went apeshit when they finnaly collab

>>23649384
Can't believe Hololive would just betray Coco for their valiant fight against the Chinks, they have the gall to sleep in bed with them.

>>23649344
i dont even watch maha5, but your comment is just ass. practice your satire writing

>>23649441
Then it is way easier since Dhani owns his management.

>>23649101
You're the definition of bocil kematian, even if you're not a bocil, you still have that bocil mentality in your head.

>>23649219
>Dota for mobile version
its actually "exist"
remember auto chess? they now create moba version of it
https://youtu.be/EHZawGqpePU
>>23649441
how about peterpan, i remember ariel is really anal about copyright etc

>>23649518
Speaking of Dhani, I remember there was an agency who had Dhani giving the support for them in a short video. How are they doing right now?

>>23649515
Believe me or not, if that monke backpedalling hard after those comments it will actually save him. ID audiences grew larger now so there will be more stupid fans like him in the pool so good luck trying to control them. He needs to adapt and be mature to accept it, a freaking moona can adapt to a larger audience why cant he then?

>>23648792
Based monke, keep it up Zen

>>23649450
Anon, even ML in SEA Community is totally huge, i think HoloID will not touch that sh*t...
This is Why Kaela & Moona playing LOL rather than ML

And about TikTod account, not only HoloID, but HoloJP also have a TikThot Accound like Matsuri...

Is it possible for holo ID to play mobile legend or pubg?

I think the number will be great because almost all teenager in indo play the game

>>23649101
>Being pussy
Gets all pussies

>>23648899
>Kobo will be leeching off Windah
Imagine the shitposts

>>23649902
If only he got any dick, unfortunately

>>23649654
>how about peterpan, i remember ariel is really anal about copyright etc
The music is owned by Musica so M-chan will need to sowan to them.
>>23649676
Who? Really I'm not aware.

>>23648792
you also a coward because you are anonymous

I always wondered why in HoloID related thread I often find some people asking HoloID should collab with X.
Is there any reason why ID thread have a lot of beggars?

>>23649887
Moona already play pubg mobile. Even got paid for Instagram post

>>23649887
>pubg
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN???
Check the moona vs cockroach stream

>>23649654
Damn i want original Dota with their lineup chara tho

not another chinks moba with rip-off chara like this. even when the gameplay 100% same with Dota

Look at all this faggot sucking some monkey cock for Damage control, Lmao pathetic.

>>23649978
well, actually you can reply to my comment if only that coward monkey doesn't delete my comment.

>>23649981
I don't know about Vtuber-only collab, but if it's against non-streamer Vtuber, exposure perhaps? And for the former the general feeling of "we buddy yaaaay" since we value "korsa" solidarity highly here (which is why "ospek" is still common).

>>23649944
this >>23649290

>>23650037
Anons didn't know the more people damage control it, the more people hate zen
If some anons are fans of his, they should shut up for his sake

>>23649981
same, why theres no "maha5 should collabs with nijiid, save them from the misery"

>>23649944
>Seething this hard
If you want to watch muh pure girls no male yada yada just watch holoJP or EN why would you watch HoloID even though they are famous for collabing with almost everybody? From 2 views to male 3DPD? What? Next time you'll say that Moona's sister actually leeching her cuz they actually using her name for clouts? Even though Moona herself enabled it?

>>23650068
>non-streamer Vtuber
Fuck me
*non-Vtuber streamer

>>23650103
NijiID is a walled garden, Nepotism hires from a cosplayer circle
Maha5 and HoloID came from the same community mainly utaite ones have been active online for years.

>>23650097
Let them hate him then, they have no actual power to do anything to him or the holo girls. People like them are always in minority

>>23650190
I don't know, some people here are sengklek enough that if they actually want to harm his life, they absolutely would do it.

>>23650103
Because the ID general thread has just begun?
I would totally saying things like that if the discussions are going in that direction.

Again, arrogant Holo ID fags thinking that the world revolves around them.

>>23650190
>Let them hate him
This is not about zen. This is about you fuckers bringing fire and tawuran to this thread.

>>23650190
Nonono anon dont say that lmfao. One single post on kikebook and your monke would close his comment section for at least 3 days

>>23650114
>they are famous for collabing with almost everybody
yeah, I don't have a problem with them, I just can't stand attention whore like zen or that Nemu guy in ollie chat, the rest is okay,
and yeah keep sucking his cock zenfags

>>23649981
its already in our blood look at KKN its get culvilated since colonial era and become more big in Soeharto era

>>23650259
Next thread, who should collab with 5.4.3.2.1.close the door

>>23650236
>Believing /vt/ schizos can do anything especially Indo schizos
Most they can do is doxxed him, they won't dare to actually shag him on street

>>23650321
>More big
Moona stop coming to this shithole

>10 more ips than previous thread
This thread is becoming more and more popular....
Is it a good thing?

>>23650399
More schizo to contain

Zomrades should just be honest and tell zen, "stay away from my oshi" or something along those lines
I did the same with Jaret
Don't just beat around the bush

>>23650399
oh yeah 43 ips are mine I have an internet cafe and reset my router every 4 posts

This thread can't be saved. Don't make a new one after this. Some retards thinks it's cool to shit on their fellow countrymen.

If any EOPs read this, I understood on what you mean by indog schizos, some people really are schizos and they're flocking to Holo ID. Sad that Holo ID attracted that retards, I hope the girls are okay because I want the best for them.

>>23650399
I guess so, but there's a lot schizo coming here

>>23650273
Everyone wants girl's attention, he is just lucky enough to be able to do it in your face, wanna be like him? Be the girls oil baron or corpo chuuba yourself, even that Yuba guy is more capable of attention whoring than most anons here

>>23650441
Now /#/ wont blame indogs when their thread turn shit, they blame chink so its a win win situation

>>23650481
Ah, That's Reminds me about "Holostars EN" Audition...

Why you guys not join that ?
Maybe one ID Chuubas on Holostars EN is good for you, i guess...

>>23650481
>Yuba
>Attention whore
What a way to tell you dont watch mooner.

>>23650259
>Again, arrogant Holo ID fags thinking that the world revolves around them
B-but i am a holofags anon, sorry if you think that way

>>23650466
Thats the purpose of this thread actually, to let them contained here anon

rather than trashed other general or baitingposting in board

>>23650466
Read the OP.