/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Anyone who posts pictures of their real self on an account connected to their vtuber personality isn't a vtuber

I don't care either way as long as they primarily stream as the vtuber. If I have to watch a real person to keep up with half their content that is kind of an interest-killer.

>>2343261
I prefer when they're open about it BUT they should keep the two things separated, it's fine if the real talks about her virtual but her virtual should always remain within the virtual side, otherwise the character is ruined for me.

>>2343261
I think one of the main benefits to and reasons people get into watching vtubers is the fact that the streamer's identity is hidden
It's like a nice break from reality, same as why a lot of people watch anime rather than dramas
It's fine if the vtuber wants to maintain a roommate account but I don't like when the two are joined together

>>2343261
I don't mind but I wonder why be a vtuber if they don't care about showing their real face

Vtubing is just another market for the E-whore to tap into. I don't want more sluttubers.

>>2343261
I'm there for the fantasy aspect of it. A complete stranger is playing games and I'm interested. I don't really like them talking about IRL things because I'm there to forget my IRL thing's.

>>2343261
Ruins the immersion. See >>2343300

>>2343261
>Do you prefer a VTuber to be completely anonymous to their IRL life or would you like to know who they are?
NONE OF THIS SHIT MATTERS FOR INDIES
>How do you feel about public cosplayers who also stream as a VTuber?
WHO CARES

>>2343575
Vtubers are Ewhores

>>2343755
Ewhores are vtubers. That's the problem

>>2343261
Removing a woman's real face and name from the equation drastically increases the quality and tolerability of her performance because she'll be distanced from any obnoxious womanly narcissism.
It's why so many western indies are incapable of keeping their identities separate, because western women are the biggest narcissists on earth.

>>2344019
>It's why so many western indies are incapable of keeping their identities separate, because western women are the biggest narcissists on earth.
Even the male ENVtubers do this

>>2343300
FPBP
>>2344019
ENVtubers are too stupid to wrap their heads around the concept of anonymity, because of their narcissistic way of life. Slowly, they'll wash the original idea of being wacky virtual identiity into mere copycat of self in animated avatar form.
There are other JP vtuber who normally would talk about their real life, but they do not bring up the connection themselves, or at least refrain talking about it on vtuber account.

>>2344071
>Male ENVtubers
Anon why

>>2343261
I don't care if they post IRL stuff as long as its not done on their actual vTuber account, as that defeats the point of being a vTuber.

>>2344071
>faggiest group of men on earth is acting effeminate
you don't say

>>2343261
What about Norio then?

>>2343261
The idea that vtubers should be anonymous comes from Kizuna AI keeping kayfabe for the longest time, its not a requirement or even the norm. Some of the core JP vtubers like Tamaki are completely public, many other pre-2019 vtubers posted their real face on their vtubing twitter.
You see a similar thing with people assuming all vtubers need to be triple threat seiso idols because of hololive.

Kind of missing the point of being a vtuber. Hard to build a character when you've got a picture of who they actually are available.

>>2344585
It certainly is the norm. There are a couple exceptions, mainly for people already famous beforehand like Norio.

>>2344585
tamaki is a bad example hey? If I am tamaki I want to promote my company as much as I can, even if I have to shamelessly shill it through my vtubing hobby. Makes sense for her to do what she does. Himegoto makes me HARD too. Nice manga

>>2344629
>>2344585
no one defines it as 'playing a character'

>>2344812
And by nobody you mean a broad corporate one off statement as opposed to multiple people saying otherwise.

How do their boots taste?

If I'm really into a vtuber, I'm curious about their other work. If that other work happens to be IRL, so be it, I still want to see. I like knowing the history and seeing how far they've come.

I've seen Okayu IRL. She's, ah... not attractive. Would I have paid her any mind if she weren't being a cute catto? Probably not, if I'm going to be brutally honest. Is that fair? Nope. But having gotten to sample her personality from behind the mask first, I don't care anymore.

>>2344812
Looking at some of the application job descriptions, some of them do.

nothing wrong with it when it's an established indie streamer getting an avatar
you can't expect people to straight up erase years and years of building an internet presence just to emulate the corporate side of japanese vtubing, when clearly most audiences don't care about kayfabe in any other capacity than as a fun little piece of lore to add to the cute anime girl avatar
hell just look at snuffy, she only exploded in popularity after she completely dropped kayfabe in favor of authenticity

as for peachmilky, I think she's cute both in cosplay and in vtuber form, I'm happy for her if commissioning an avatar helped boost her viewership

>>2343261
What a fucking whore! EN vtubers are cancer! This will be the down fall of vtubing!

>>2345217
>she only exploded in popularity after she completely dropped kayfabe in favor of authenticity
ONLY
no she exploded because
1. she got a MUCH better looking avatar than that hideous sparklecat
2. The mouth rig that was far better than anyone had in the current market a least No popular vtuber had that level of mouth rigging
3. Her previous voice was obnoxiously shrill

>>2343261
I prefer it to be an open secret. Known enough that I can look into it if I want to, but separate enough that it doesn't affect the stream content and I can ignore it's existence.

One of the reasons I watch vtubers when I didn't watch any ecelebs before it is the concrete separation between the entertainer work and their personal life. Merging the two defeats the purpose.

>>2345849
Pretty much this for me too.

Ideally, all VTubers should follow Kizuna Ai's example of separation. Even after Ai's roommate was revealed, they made it perfectly clear that the two are to be treated as separate entities. The separation is one of the biggest differentiators between VTubers and other content creators and due to that, VTubers bring their own unique appeal. Destroying that core aspect of VTubers will just make them no different than what already exists.

>>2344812
>Most VTubers broadcast in Japanese or Korean

Image disregarded.

I don't really care, honestly. I like Vtubers a lot but It's not as if I watch Vtubers exclusively or I'm repulsed by 3D humans.

People are gonna do what they're gonna do regardless. If I dislike their content I'm not going to watch them because of that, not because they broke the sacred rules of Vtubing or some shit.

There are no rules to being a vtuber. It's a meme term everyone throws around however they want. See, annoying orange.

>>2346533
>See, annoying orange.
Unfunny forced meme from underage tourists, not a VTuber. Same reason retards were calling Cory in the House anime.

>>2346187
Korean is off, but the large majority broadcast in Japanese since there are over 15,000 Japanese vtubers.

>>2346592
Korean isn't "off," it's straight up wrong.

>>2346175
>Destroying that core aspect of VTubers will just make them no different than what already exists.
You can still be a good streamer and a shit Vtuber. Most people cant get over this paradox

>>2343300
/thread

>>2343261
If they are an e-girl I would only watch their vtuber content if it's completely divorced from showing off their irl bobs and vagene. If they had a preexisting internet presence that wasn't based on tee hee I'm a grill patreon to the left then I don't care at all.

I prefer a vtuber that accepts that the vtuber is not the same as her real life self and tries to entertain with the character and a bit of roleplay instead of being a pokimane.

>>2343261
I hate it

Dirty thots

>>2343261
I would prefer that Vtubers keep their IRL stuff separate but if they're willing to show off their IRL stuff then it just feels like they're more of a regular streamer with a virtual avatar rather than a Vtuber who tries to maintain a character and some kind of illusion
Cosplayers who do this fall under that, although I guess being able to cosplay as their character is interesting, they're still just being a real person dressing up as a character rather than actually playing a character

>>2343261
If they show off their actual self on the same account they use for vtubing, they’re not a vtuber but a streamer with an avatar.

it's a vtuber if they're ugly irl. it's an e-whore if they dont mind being exposed

>>2344485
She's her own mama so she can do what the fuck she wants

>>2343261
Anonymous, so I can spend days trying to figure out who they are and how do they look in real life

>>2343261
I'd like to call this avatarfagging. Can we come to a consensus?

>>2347389
/thread

>>2343261
I fucking don't care.
Unless they really are obnoxious about it then i have zero problems with Vtuber showing their faces. I'm not there to say what someone is supposed to post on Twitter but to watch anime girl playing dumb vidya games.

>>2346533
peared
>>2346533
KNIFE

>>2343261
>real face
>several layers of makeup and image editing

>>2343261
I personally wouldn't like it due to the fact that I can't unsee their irl faces when they're voicing a character.
Still I don't think that revealing their faces it's something bad or that shouldn't be allowed, at the end of the day they're just wannabe voice actors.

>>2343261
I don't care if they got an instagram account where they brag about meaningless shit, while they also do vtubing on a character account. The most important thing is that vtubing is still their main activity, I don't like the one you posted simply because she does the vtubing as a side show going with the flow of the current vtuber fad just to gain more onlyfans simps.

Last but not least the lives of the virtual character and the 3dpd online personality must never intersect, peach is linking her 3dpd account from her vtuber account, she also retweeted her own 3dpd posts from the vtuber account, that's a huge failure for me.

>>2344241
>ENVtubers are too stupid to wrap their heads around the concept of anonymity, because of their narcissistic way of life
This. The concept of not sticking your makeup-caked face or ass in everything if foreign to them.

I don’t care as long as it’s done once or maybe twice. I lose all interest when they post more of their faces rather than character art or vids. It’s instant unfollow if they start whoring around showing their bodies.

>>2345217
>>2345775
and we can't forget about youtube's algorithm pushing clipfags. never knew of her before that.

>>2344485
When she plays her character, she does her best to stay in character. "He" will maintain the background that "he" is a cross dressing guy and "he" is not Norio

>>2343261
I don't get this shit at all. At this point she may as well just stream without her avatar.

>>2350990
>whoring around showing their bodies
But people dont seem to mind when a vtuber does whore shit? I don’t understand this mentality.

>>2344071
>ENVtubers

I don’t care as long and their vtuber is interesting and a character that is separate from themselves, which no one who is half vtuber half irl does, sadly. They just make “anime version” of themselves.

>>2352086
Probably because 2D =/= 3D

>>2352305
Woman showing her ass and a vtuber voiced and acted out by a woman doing lewds and getting porn art commissioned are both whores.

>>2352086
>I don’t understand this mentality.
Of course you dont. Youre have the
>vtuber is just a streamer with an avatar mentality

The vtuber is supposed to be a fucking character. Its always stressed to /auds/fags need to separate themself from the vtuber persona. They and other western vtubers always ignore it because they dont want to admit that its a skill, so let die as a fad. The west will find something else.

>>2343261
In a ideal world, I would know nothing about a vtubers roommate.
In this non-ideal world I have seaniggers desperately trying to work towards showing me all their roommate pussies for some undiscernible reason.

If a vtuber has an IRL they aren't a vtuber. They are just larping as one.

>>2343261
It doesn't ruin them if I know what they look like, but if they advertise it like an e-thot it completely ruins the point.

>>2343261
Should vtubers always have fake identities? Don't some of the artist mamas use their real name and vtube at the same time?

I'd rather not encourage everyone to show their ugly mugs around
the one you posted is fine, but a lot of them are seriously ugly and it completely kills the hype when you know who is behind the avatar

>>2343261
I don't really mind, but online anonymity with an avatar kinda helps the escapism from real life, I suppose.

>>2343300
retarded take

>>2343300
but that's wrong

>>2353380
>>2353354
>I'll wait 10 seconds on the timer so that way it doesn't seem like I'm samefagging

>>2343261
>costhots
Go back

>>2354336
Why does he need to worry about the timer if he's doing two different ips anyway?

>>2354885
So any cosplayer is a thot now? That cosplay looks normal and wholesome.

>>2343261
A vtuber is a character. Saying real me vs anime me is like a wrestler going on a talk show about being a wrestler, not in character but as theirself, while their character is still active on the scene. It breaks keyfab, and ruins the character they were portraying.

>>2347389

this 100%

>virtual youtuber
>virtual
>but posts irl selfies
?

>>2354931
This one does look nice and wholesome but yes most cosplayers are thots now

>>2343300
>Anyone who posts pictures of their real self on an account connected to their vtuber personality isn't a vtuber
What happens if a Hololive member did a face reveal?

>>2352650
>The vtuber is supposed to be a fucking character.

Any streamer's on-stream persona is a character, you think they act the same on-stream as they do off-stream?

>>2356044
they won't be a holo for much longer since that's a breach of their contract. we know which holo you're talking about but that's roommate shit and entirely disconnected from their vtuber persona, so stfu.

>>2356117
>we know which holo you're talking about
You mean more than half of them?

>>2343261
Fact is there is a certain level of immersion vtubers have when they actively do not show their faces, sure shit falls through the cracks and shit leaks, but with something like Holo the immersion is still there because they arent breaking the kayfabe so to speak. They may poke at the 4th here and there but, for the most part it all stays in the realm of "this character is a real person and you are watching a real person.". Someone like pic related doesnt have that level of immersion and lets face it on our modern world can come off more that they are doing it more for the attention they desperately want rather to actually entertain people. It sounds harsh being laid out like that but, this goes for basically 50% of actual indy vtubers or vtweeters. Especially if they do it from the start. It sounds weird because it sounds like im saying "the sanctity of vtubing" but, I think there is a certain level of, for lack of a better word, respect that some hope they give to the hobby and not because they just wanna jerk themselves off. Its no different from any hobby, video games, cosplay, etc

>>2343261
oh shit i recognise her. probably doesn't want all that plastic surgery to go to waste

>>2347950
Based stalkeranon

>>2343261
>cosplay on name
So that's a cosplayer originally? Probably created a vtuber avatar just for fun.

But if you pose as vtuber at first but then started showing off your real face, then what's the point.
Just say you're a streamer, not a vtuber.

>>2355867
retard

>>2353319
the most real response in the thread

>>2343261
What do anons think of vtubers doing no-face IRL streams where they keep their avatar on, but also partially expose themselves on camera? A classic one would be an IRL cooking or baking stream. Pic related.

>>2357788
gloved is fine

>>2357788
Haachama cooking is the best content in hololive. But 1 hour cooking streams are boring

>>2357788
>>2357807
Gloves are lame. Ayamy (Mel's mama) does cooking streams all the time and shows off her gorgeous nails https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr9p1ZjLKgfaoqNorY7PiWQ/featured

>>2358551
>painted nails
yeah, i love getting nail paint chips in my food

>>2343261
Be anonymous IRL. If I want to know how they are IRL, I will have to search for it.

Riddle me this, /vt/: If you believe that the person behind the avatar is irrelevant and should keep herself separate from her character, why is it that so many of you get upset when you find out that a vtuber has a boyfriend?

>>2358701
>virtual
>has an irl partner
?

>>2357788
I don't like it. I would rather they just do cooking in some VR game or something. If you want to be extremely based you interact with the real world via robot arms, or a 3D printer.

>>2343261
STOP EXPOSING THE BUSINESS

>>2343261
Should be a lot more separated. It isn't a big deal if their IRL details are public, but kayfabe should be maintained like old school wrestling. Boggles the mind that Brennan doesn't try to maintain that kayfabe harder, but it's obvious he just wants in on the fun of being vtuber and is trying to keep vince from claiming his streamer shit as WWE property.

>>2358551
That's awesome.
Is she and Tsunderia's Char the only ones that have done hand reveal (without gloves)?

>>2359535
Kanata gave us a pic of her wrist when she was hospitalized.

>>2358582
>if female
you're the disgusting type that doesn't use bottom or clear coats so your own nail polish looks ugly and chips easily
>if male
you've never had a gf to know that nail polish shouldn't flake that easily or you've never had a well-kept, clean gf

>>2359559
Pretty sure that was on her personal account not her hololive account.

>>2343261
then what's the point of being vtuber?
just like that pokimane, lilypichu and other big streamer, why do yo want to associate your vtuber persona with your irl looks? for what purpose?

>>2359998
Because its a trend and gimmick now and people will tune in at least once to see it. Its like those FPS streamers who do "OMG I'm going to use a gamepad for this stream!".

>>2360023
i know, right. the audacity of bandwagoning just because trend, and after 2-3 times of "Vtuber" stream, they don't use the model again. disfuckingrespect.

>>2360132
Shouldn't you be begging for Holostars collabs somewhere else?

>>2358551
Why are all the holo mamas so fucking cute?

I don't mind a vtuber having an active roommate account, they have a private life after all. It should be kept separate from the vtuber character and the roommate should do as much as possible to keep that separation or be ready to private her accounts if that separation is breached.

>>2343261
NNNNNNHGGHHHHHH UUOOOOOOOOOOOOHH

>>2344019
Based and truthpilled.

>>2357788
I'm fine with it.

It really is a problem to show your face if you are not japanese. If you are japanese, people here would defend you giving ridiculous reasons so that you can stay a vtuber.

>>2345217
Peachmilky is a ugly bitch with a boring personality.

There's nothing wrong with showing your face as a performer. Voice actors don't get shit for showing their faces. The only reason there's some weird expectation in vtubing culture that performers shouldn't show their face is because corporations got in early on the ground floor and enforced that rule to keep control of the characters, and for some weird reason the fans have accepted this as part of the culture.

That said, if someone doesn't want to show their face that's fine. However some people seem to think it's unacceptable to show face at all.

>>2343261
i prefer they to be honest for what they are

>>2343261
Don't care i'm not some kind of purity idiot, I don't see how it's any different from know what an anime character CV looks like.

>>2362272
>is because corporations got in early
I don't believe you understand how serious asian fans are about their idols anon.

>>2362272
i disagree
Voice actors are not as personal as vtubers
also by not showing your face you let go of any advantages given by your appearance/attractiveness and leveling the playing field.
not showing your face means you have to rely on your content to grow

>>2362457
>Voice actors are not as personal as vtubers
Except the closest analog to vtubers which are vloggers and streamers are known for showing their faces. In fact, that's part of what makes them so personal. So your point sort of contradicts itself.

I don't give a fuck either way and anyone who does is a faggot.

>>2343261
>vtuber personal life has to be unknown

This is not a requirement

Temmie seems to pull it off well.

The indie Vtubers with a real life persona are going to last a lot longer than any corporate character. Grandnyaners will be in your feed in 20 years.

I think code miko's schtick works, even if you arent partial to her in particular. hardlining between the avatar and the technician preserves the feel

>>2362272
I think it's less a corporation thing and more that Japanese Internet culture is different than ours when it comes to anonymity. It's much more prevalent for Japanese people to either not show their face or be wearing a face mask when they make video content or stream. It's partly why the VTuber concept was born in Japan and not elsewhere, because the digital avatar as a masked persona is merely an extension of the culture mentioned earlier.

>>2356186
Most of them have been facedoxxed. None of them have posted pictures of their roommates on their holo account.

>>2343261
Indies should do whatever they are most comfortable with, doesn't make them any less of a vtuber. Anyone part of a company should adhere to their rules.
Any other opinions are wrong

Comes off like they're hopping on the trend, I like seeing some commitment to having an avatar. It's fine if they previously were showing themselves irl and then transitioned, but doing both is just lame.

>>2366614
Treat vtubing like a fad and it stagnates and dies
Treat it like a skill it will always improves and sticks around.

This is such a cringe topic. You can tell who the incels are.

>>2356044
it would justify doxxpositng because they removed the persona/actor barrier

>>2343300
Kiara, Calli and Coco keep posting pictures and videos of themselves.

>>2367165
not connected to their hololive characters tho, l2read

>>2346592
The second highest would be Chinese, and for them not to know even basic knowledge like that is more than enough to dismiss their opinion on anything.

>>2367165
on an account connected to their vtuber personality

>>2354931
The only people who don't think cosplayers are thots are people who've never met a cosplayer

>>2365836
Literally the only other person I've seen talk about the actual reason vtuber's exist, very based post.

>>2367165
retard

>>2367165
>Newfag

>>2367246
unironically the only reason girls cosplay is for attention and money

>>2358551
>TFW seeing girls doing girly stuff and using makeup/nail polish/cute clothes/whatever associated with women turns me on more than bitches on a bed asking for cock or offering themselves to you/me.
How many anons here like me?, does this fetish has a name or something?

>>2367968
It's called Enjoying the rose bush.

>>2353319
The most based response in the thread

>>2368214
>Throw name into search engine
>I only get Rose bush planting techniques
Anon, why u gotta do me like this?

>>2343300
FPBP.

>>2343261
But there are some JP ones connected to the IRL activities, thoughts on Inuyama Tamaki and Pochi sensei?

>>2367968
>We're so deprived of girls doing typically girly things that it's now considered a fetish

>>2368408
>TFW back in the day the goal was to get a supermodel looking gal with weeb tendencies
>Fast forward a decade or less
>Now PEAK demand is just a girl being girly
>Average butterface
>Just qt at heart
>...And maybe not lazy
Anons... How many here grinding at life to get a wife/gf for life like that?, I can't be the only schizo here just amassing riches like a fucking dragon because my fetish is just a girly woman and me being able to support and protect her.
How did we get here?!?!?!?, What battle did we fucking lost?!?!?!, I didn't participate WTF?!?!?!

>>2367165
Based illiterate

>>2343261
Its less creepy for me to masturbate to the character then the actual person behind the character.

>>2368900
rrats say Marine's roommate is unbelievably cute and kinda thicc, but the good type of thicc, not the fatty type.

>>2368540
The key is asian women

>>2362616
Chang? she's not a VTuber

Mixed Tubers have been around far longer than probably 99% of this thread has been in to vtubers. Fuck all of you newfags.
There's nothing special about vtubing. Never has been.

>>2369798
>Imagine being this much of a redditor

>>2368964
>not the fatty type.
Her lack of stamina doesn't come from age alone.

>>2343521
Don't underestimate the amount of hours poured into makeup for such streams. Having said that, i'd rather watch someone that doesnt constantly post their face online, personal preference but it breaks the character immersion

>>2343261
I'd love to see who they are myself, humanises them much more to know who they are HOWEVER fuck schizos and med takers doxxers and may they never know who these girls are.

>>2343300
This

>>2346576
forced meme maybe, "tourists" sure, but annoying orange could easily qualify as a vtuber.
your analogy doesn't work.

>>2343261
FPBP, I always wondered, why are people so desperate of showing their whole lives to the entire world, the internet does not represent real life, baka have people stop appreciating anonymity

>>2357788
>>2358551
IIRC the old Eilene vids had sleeves matching the avatar's, which was amusing and let you fill in the blanks to imagine you were still watching the character do it.

>>2377568
No it couldn't, in any capacity, that's why it's exactly the same as idiots calling Cory in the House an anime. Look up the definition before forcing your cancer here, underage tourist.

>>2347389
So a vtuber according to anyone but autists, got it

i'll be honest, atleast for the holos, i can see their face and don't care because i will forget how they look in 30 minutes, happens with jap faces.

>>2353225
If they do vtuber as a character they shouldnt do face reveals. it's like having a cringy identity crisis.

>>2383766
it's not exactly the same
the annoying orange is someone's virtual avatar, right? and he produces entertainment via this avatar.
his virtual avatar on youtube, that is.
it's different from calling a disney sitcom a japanese cartoon, on just about every level
>I've been on this board and /jp/ longer than you have and I can even show you my ID to prove I'm not a child
>I have a very strong definition of what a Vtuber is, and there is not one thing that disqualifies the annoying orange. I'm very sorry if it makes you mad.

>>2386283
It is exactly the same.
It's not a virtual avatar, it's a live-action webseries. Live-action webseries are not characters.
In addition, none of the characters in it are virtual avatars generated with computer graphics, they're splicing of someone's real face with real images of fruit. Using your actual face in videos is the exact opposite of what qualifies for a VTuber. And yes, it's exactly the same as calling a sitcom an anime. Both of are irony based memes where you take a blatant falsehood and repeat it until it sticks.
You have not been on this board for any period of time, you're a tourist who's been here since 2016 earliest, and you have zero understanding of the definition of VTuber. You're actively falseflagging as someone who does have a "strong definition" to dupe more gullible anons here, when in reality you want to destroy the definition so that literally anything is accepted as a VTuber, thus ruining yet another medium.

>>2357788
If they're fully gloved it's not really a big deal, although >>2383697 is a very clever solution too.

>>2343261
It kinda defeats the purpose, but I do like having a face to connect to. However because theres so many psychos out there I actually prefer they keep their identities as hidden as possible.
>It makes the hunt that much more thrilling.

>>2343261
You are all mentally ill and need to seek therapy.

>>2343261
"vtubers" who post actual pictures of themselves are just trend chasers hoping to promote themselves irl.

>>2384231
t. pokimane

>>2358551
Cute hands but she sounds like a hag...

>>2390022
>He doesn´t invest in hagcoin

>>2357788
The gloves make me feel like I’m watching a serial killer.
https://youtu.be/OUMT_sBI9vY

>>2357788
Black gloves is offputting to me. Why not use gloves in colors that kitchen gloves normally come in?

Open secret is ideal for me but i watch only those vtubers who do it as job/hobby otherwise they don't put enough effort.

She's literally seeling nudes, this is just a whore who's smart enough to hop on fads like the virtual youtuber thing.

>>2402204
Except she doesn’t sell nudes, nice lie. She only does clothed cosplay shoots. What do you get out of lying about something anyone could fact check in less than a minute?

>>2403389
Right, there is no way she would do nudes, just like Belle... oh, wait.