/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

The NijiEN creed

Remember, no Chinese

The usual end of the month median of peak CCV charts

>>23433715 :: Top 50
>>23436062 :: 1k plus
>>23439535 :: Full

Some unusual ones
>>23443604 :: EN only
>>23452662 :: ID only
>>23469989 :: Roboco line
>>23469556 :: Holostars vs. NijiID
>>23487714 :: All excluding COVER and Anycolor channels

>>23533234
thank you

Slow day huh.

>>23533224
>Remember, no Chinese
I too hate to discuss things which don't help my numberfag narratives, fellow brony.

https://youtu.be/y1bCXjrIGp0
>buried on a generic various artists topic channel
why

>>23533294
that's the Kanata and Towa song right?

>>23533291
don't you have some bat soup to fuck up brewing?

>>23533290
I thought GW gonna be more exciting

>>23533294
This is the auto-generated from Spotify upload right? Maybe they'll release an official one?

miko 22k on powerpro with little to no overlap, 30k possible and a silver/gold contender since peko is taking a break today

This is an early prediction, but what do you guys think Kiara’s MC will get? The last time she played was back in January where she peaked at 5.7k, but this was kind of in a down period for her in particular. I don’t have the numbers to say she’s inclined, but she’s definitely brought back an audience to come watch her do stuff (every portal stream hitting 8k, windwaker hitting almost 6k) and MC’s been pretty good for holos as of late.

7k seem pretty reasonable here? Maybe more perhaps?

>>23533401
7-8k is around what you'd expect.
Kiara isn't really that into MC, and won't get the same buff as say, Gura, Kronii or Ina.

>>23533385
any other contenders? is ALGS still a thing tonight?

Are you excited for the next Kanaria song covers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB8sxY_PJ_w

>>23533362
GW starts tomorrow
so most people just take a break today in prepare for tomorrow

>>23533401
Yeah 7,8k is totally doable. Maybe more if there's VC

>>23533362
Yeah, turns out there really isn't much announcement being made (HoloX 3D might get announced tomorrow though in the official channel) and despite the long GW period this year (up to 10 days) everyone been doing their usual routine. The only thing announced was the Golden Game Week which is a shill stream in disguise for Taiko, and aside from some solo practice stream here and there it's just not generating that much hype, the storyline doesn't exist for this event.

>>23533425
>Kiara isn't really that into MC

>>23533471
GW technically started from 29th April, anon. This year if you take paid leave on 2nd and 6th of May you can get a whole 10 days of break.

>>23533445
Catchy

>>23533401
Around 7k.
That's what her MCs usually got before the absolute bullshit at the end of the year did to her CCV, sometimes a bit higher, but never less than 6k.

Reminder that there was not a single talent from Niji getting 20k on Powerpros other than their super top liver, Kuzuha. Miko breached that easily and she's the 4th top vtuber in Hololive.

>>23533385
won't hit 30k
big overlaps in 20 mins and she still hasn't start playing the damn game yet...

>>23533425
You mean the girl who played minecraft more than any other EN girls doesn't like minecraft?

>>23533499
>>23533655
I misspoke, meant that she doesn't get as much of a buff as the other girls since she doesn't do that many interesting things in MC, just plays it a lot.

Since CCVID is still going strong, I calculated a better metric for comparing vtubers, view/second.
Only streams with 20+ minutes duration are counted and a month must has at least 5 streams.
Surprisingly, Marine came out on top because her 1 hour streams all did very well usually get 300k+.
Gura of course, is in another universe compared to other ENs

>>23533294
Because they don't have enough songs. Those channels are autogenerated

First non-ad-boosted NijiEN song to reach 2M?

>>23533698

https://youtu.be/xqWE0UYb1zM
https://youtu.be/xqWE0UYb1zM
https://youtu.be/xqWE0UYb1zM
23 hours

>>23533698
>a better metric
kek, that's just view/time from "that other anon" (you, presumably), but repackaged.

There is no reason for any metric to punish a streamer that streams more often or longer streams and doing so is what this thread call
>ratiocope

>>23533698
ok, i'm gonna say it, these placements are kinda worthless, what use do you have for a metric that has fucking zeta over pekora or mumei

>>23533786
Total views is a better metric than these weird ratio-based measurements.
There's a time and a place for them, but Total views (no shorts/songs) is a better metric than these.
If you stream a bunch, like Koyori, you can still rack up the views even if the VODs on a single stream are mediocre because each stream is getting a good chunk of views when it's live.
If you're like Marine (Extreme) or Gura (less Extreme) who have good VOD growth for one reason or another, your Total views still reflect it.

Kaela is streaming every day next week, and 10 streams in total. Thoughts on this ID koyori

the ccvid, cull and niji bot cope is insane and pathetic. there's numbers being displayed on screen but you lot choose the imaginary non existent ones instead

>>23533224
Towa...

>>23533714
>non-ad-boosted
Do nijinig really

>>23533889
>THE MOST RETARDED THREAD ON THE BOARD

>>23533834
>>23533880
No, really
>Haachama over Miko
that's absolutely retarded and peak ratiocope.

Miko has
>a higher CCV
>more VOD views

but the reasno this retarded calculation has her trailing Haachama is because Miko has
>more streams
>more hours streamed

It is like this metric was made to benefit streamers that have fewer streams
>hmmmm, really made me think

>>23533834
because she's new
this is the last month list, you'll see her real placement
>>23533880
>Total views
So Miko is more popular than Gura?
Just spam streams and you'll be at the top

>>23533889
Schrodinger's NUMBERS

can we just go back to shitting on Nijisanji?

>>23533929
She's Korean tho, not Chinese.

>>23533941
This was from fish herself so I don't think it had any ads.

>>23533962
>>Haachama over Miko
it's because some events in 1/2022
here >>23533982 satisfy yet?
putting the stream threshold at 10 would eliminate all outliers

https://youtu.be/nVh2jUrb7zA
Daily gold?

>>23533957
>>23533889

>MOST INFLUENTIAL THREAD ON THE MOST INFLUENTIAL BOARD

>>23534042
>This was from fish herself
This bitch lies to her fans a lot, do you really believe her?

>>23533982
YOU CAN'T MEASURE POPULARITY WITH NUMBERS; YOU RETARDED IDIOT!

Every single of these retarded ratiocope measurements you are making up is to try to prove numerically that Gura is more popular than her numbers show

And here is the thing:
>Gura *is* more popular than her numbers show
Numbers are *not* a measure of popularity, stop trying to pretend it is.

You know there is a reason Youtube sometimes, instead of ads, show a multiple choice
>which of these brands you remember hearing recently
poll, right?

That's because, to accurately measure the "popularity" of the brands of the ads they run, the need to ask DIRECTLY something that no aggregation of numbers would show.

Stop this retarded ratiocope, you are making your oshi look bad with your retardation

>>23533431
it's done anon

>>23533962
To be fair, not saying this graph is legit or not, but your comment of:
>It’s like this metric was made to benefit streamers that have fewer streams
Runs almost parallel to the issue people have with the other particularly famous graph that gets posted here, watch time, which infamously rewards people who stream more regardless of their standing in the company. It’s a graph that typically has Watame, Flare, Koyori and even Kiara sometimes ahead of people like Gura, Marine, Laplus, Suisei etc.

Obviously that one has more credibility to its case, but they’re both flawed metrics that don’t tell the whole story

>>23533982
>More Popular
Nah. Popularity is something....more nebulous. Its not very easy to quantify, especially with Holomem who end up attracting a very wide audience.

>>23534047
>Haachama over Miko
>it's because some events in 1/2022
Anon, there is not a single period in time in 2022 where Haachama had either more views, more CCV, more subs or more notoriety than MIko.

Haachama is my oshi, I know her numbers damn well.

>>23533024
Oh no no no NijiIDKobofags

>>23534047
>threshold at 10
seems too harsh, you'll end up filtering a lot of people
the ccv charts filter at 5, i think that's better or at least 7

>>23534057
oh shit
miko powerpro still has chances but she'll probably end up slipping

>>23534104
>It’s a graph that typically has Watame, Flare, Koyori and even Kiara sometimes ahead of people like Gura, Marine, Laplus, Suisei etc.
That's the "watched hours" and it is equally retarded and people said so repeatedly.

>>23534035
chowa... will she make the bilibili daily chart?

>>23533982
actually the stupidest metric this thread has produced, this is worse than the vod divided by streaming time chart

>>23533982
>popular
jesus christ, no wonder you're retarded

>>23533982
Are deliberately sabotaging a certain chuuba in this thread with this ridiculous chart?

>>23534151
explain how is this worst than the garbage watch hours charts that get regularly posted here?
Rate charts with threshold are the best

>>23534151
have you seen my unique chatter ratios during peak ccvid?

Any potential gold today?

can we go back to real numbers please its unhealthy at this point

>>23534258
So far looking like Miko I believe

>>23534258
>>23534057

I see this thread is autistic as usual. any gold contenders this morning?

No peko today
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1521064646660493312

>>23534151
>this is worse than the vod divided by streaming time
Anon, it *is* vod divided by streaming time, except now he's no longer doing that convoluted
>in blocks of one hour, then ranking by hour and averaging the rank
because it made it extra retarded

Numberfaging is not complicated. You

1) take any publicly available measurement
2) pick the value for each of the parties you want to compare
3) big number > small number

Take subs
>Gura has more subscribers than other vtuebrs
>Hence she is the most subscribed vtuber

No more, no less. It doesn't say anything about her worth, her entertainment value, her talent or anything else but
>the number of subscribers publicly shown at her channel is greater than the number of subscribers publicly shown in other vtuber channels

Same thing with CCV.
>Kanata had the highest publicly recorded CCV for May 1st for the tracked vtubers
>Hence she had the highest CCV
No more, no less.

There is a single retard in this thread trying to somehow quantify Gura "popularity" in numbers and that's both impossible and unnecessary.

>>23534249
>>23534249
>>23534249
>AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES CHINKS TELL THEMSELVES

>>23533982
I actually appreciate the view/time metrics but let's not talk about popularity, this nor any ccv, live hours watched, SC or, god help us, monthly golds, is accurate in measuring actual popularity, it's way too hard to sum that in just one metric. Most people just use subs for that but even that is not good enough.

>>23534264
Anon lets be real, after Michael Cat truly confirmed that culls are indeed real and still alive and well, even ccv is just a magic number at this point

We need to accept that b2 was right all along. If everything is fake, lets make the fake number as big and meaty as it gets

>>23534264
Define what is real numbers? Our CCV numbers have shown proven to be fake and easily manipulated by botting

>>23534264
>no no no you have to talk about the fake botted numbers
we all know CCV is extremely inaccurate
I don't really care much about it anymore besides CCV in big events

where do all these fags come from, this is jst prime

>>23534371
Then why are you here? This threads horse race is about ccv

>>23534387
Golden week.

>>23534343
>>23534360
>>23534371
Anons, if you guys don't want to talk about CCV just don't.
People will talk about what they want to talk tho so, if CCV is the thing that they want to they'll just continue with or without you guys.

>>23534258
miko peaked at 27.9k so far, overlap hell started until at least 23JST, higher peak unlikely.
she's keeping gold currently, potential contenders are Kanae 4th anniversary, King Apex, Aqua guerilla, or Toya starting before midnight, slip chances are very high

>>23534437
You can talk about any numbers you want
but this guy >>23534264 insisted that rate numbers aren't real numbers

Luxiem

>>23534231
Tell me anon which one will get better views/time pekora that only stream 5x a month or pekora that stream every.

>>23534530
Don’t spook me like that

>>23534057
this is probably the gold for today, miko isn't good with the powerpro mechanics.

>>23534447
add Suisei's ranked Apex to that list. she's at 12k before entering a match. possible 20k-25k+ if she does well

>>23534496
>rate numbers aren't real numbers
I assume you mean "ratio".
They're numbers, of course, but specifically the ones that divide VOD views by stream time are cope numbers of a level of retardation that is beneath even this retarded thread.

Comparing VOD views is good enough, there is zero reason to divide by the length of the stream unless the goal is specifically benefit those who stream shorter streams of punish those who stream longer streams.

>>23534561
Noctyx

>>23534597
>unless the goal is specifically benefit those who stream shorter streams of punish those who stream longer streams.
this is literally their goal every time

Kobo's first jp collab is with haachama? I didn't expect that one single bit

Damn, it's Monday. Boring streams today. Also, did Kanae open SCs yesterday? He might be earning quite a bit today.

Fresh nijicope
>>23534397
>This is because hololive simps are unironic feminists that will support their anime woman to shows that the fairer sex is superior to males in anime form since irl mostly men are the ones that have greater achievements. They only support a woman if they look like an anime girl that feeds to their coomer nature as an anime fan since they cant get a real girl. A good example is the former holojp's green woman that still have her loyal simps even if the simps are now confirmed cucks and lose tons of money on a parasocial relationship with a bitch that just use an anime model and doesnt even know them as an individual

>>23534597
VOD favors those who do long streams like Kiara, again there's no reason why this metric is worst than watch hours
>>23534557
Tell me anon which one will get better watch hours Kiara that only stream 10x a month or Kiara that stream every day

To deter you away from the shit in this thread, I will give you guys some numbers AND will make you horny:
https://twitter.com/backbonecat/status/1520715989994078208?s=21&t=KeQrLAnrJgeSfOCcUDwSEQ

Gura artist that managed to get their most liked ever artwork in just a single day while Gura is out moving so not even a like or rt yet

>>23534597
>>23534678
she isn't even winning that metric anymore, i think it's time to stop letting her live rent free in your head

All these useless charts when chart anon already posted his in this very thread.
>>23533234

>>23534680
Yea
No one expect that lmao,
She's not good with jap, and english
I thought collab with jap will have 3rd party or something

>>23534680
Kobo can't speak jp, Haachama is the perfect jp senpai to collab with first, both also like valorant

>>23534264
There are no real numbers, accept it and be free

>>23534680
Kobo cant speak jp, so most of holojp will probably avoid her. Lui dont show any interest in collabing with her n lui is interested kaela more.

>>23534737
Did Gura ever retweet or liked his art?

Got followed back by aether (opera ballerina chuuba).
A-am i being groomed?

>>23534762
>>23534778
Kobo can barely speak English too though, she's worse than haachama kek
I expect kino though, hopefully it'll be a single POV like the haachama and laplus collab to be more tidy and clippable

>>23534437
Anon, if you don't want to talk about view/time just don't.
People will talk about what they want to talk tho so, if view/time is the thing that they want to they'll just continue with or without you guys.

>>23534815
numbers ?

>>23534591
doubt, she gets debuffed by apex, even if shes doing well no way her numbers get doubled. i think kanae probably takes today

>>23534728
>VOD favors those who do long streams like Kiara
Anon, of course it does. Why would the goal of ANY metric be
>to punish streamers that work hard to improve their numbers
?

If you really want a metric tailor made for streamers that get a high VOD views but don't stream long or often enough for it to compare to the frequent streamers, but that also stream too often to get a rarity buff just make a metric
> Gura cope ratio
whose metric is
> how close to "Gawr Gura" is the name of the streamer based on the levenshtein distance
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levenshtein_distance

Gura, of course, would always be #1 because the distance is zero. Haachama would be ahead of Calli, Calli would be ahead of Ina and so on.

There, a much simpler ratiocope for you and one that ensure Gura is ALWAYS at #1, and it is no less retarded than view / time

>>23534752
>((CCV))
>not useless

>>23534530
i am now angry

>>23534814
There must’ve been a couple in there that’s gotten some attention since they’re all pretty great quality Gura art and many hitting over 10k+ likes, some like the Holloween one hitting 48k. It’s pretty cool if you go back to them drawing Myth from debut and seeing how their art has improved over time.

Also, this guy’s art has gotten attention and well deserved at thag:
https://twitter.com/karas_originals?s=21&t=KeQrLAnrJgeSfOCcUDwSEQ
They’ve done such great art but hilariously, they’ve reposted their art multiple times and each time it has it’s gotten ridiculous traction. One of them in particular has hit 50k+ likes every time it’s reuploaded

>>23534858
>Debuffed
Come on, while 20k+ is hard with more overlap, it's hardly a debuff for Suisei.

>>23534951
Gura isn't #1 in the view/time metric. You're literally pissing and shitting yourself crying about her when she's not even "winning" that.

>>23534728
I'd rather have a metric that punish lazy streamer than a metric that punish streamer that streams

>>23535016
Anon, see this post: >>23533982
>So Miko is more popular than Gura?

That's the whoe purpose of this retarded ratiocope, trying to quantify Gura's relative popularity.

>>23534951
Gura could be a pekora if she streamed consistently and only buff games. She has the sass the rabbit possess too.

>>23535060
But pekora doesn't always stream buff games.

I'm wondering if this anon is a Gura shill or trying to taint her name in this thread, it's getting obnoxious.

>>23535025
Sana is lazy and you can see she's at the bottom
No one in the top is lazy

>>23535060
Could be but she lacks ability to choose a game and stay interested

>>23535060
Most Holos could be Pekora if they streamed consistently and buff games. Haachama, Fubuki, Korone, Ame (to name a few)

>>23535051
Maybe for that anon it is, but his retarded take on popularity doesn't make the whole metric useless like you claim.

>>23535108
given any actual gura fan is either lurking in hlgg/ggg or doing reps since shes its day 7. i'm going to go for the latter

>>23535114
The one she stays interested are often debuff games lol (Metroid, Kirby, DMC...)

>>23535112
>Sana is lazy and you can see she's at the bottom
Anon, she's not at the bottom, in that retarded cope metric she's ahead of Koyori even if she has
> lower VOD views
which is the exact metric being used there.

Niji gold
>Niji gold
Niji gold
>Niji gold

>>23535060
The thing that makes Gura so great when she streams though is when she takes those breaks. Maybe not the 4+ day ones obviously but those 2-3 days off after a full schedule, because Gura’s at her best when she has things to talk about and those days give her things to do that do just that. This girl admittedly writes things on a notepad so she can talk to her chat about so if she streamed all the time you might end up with a very listless Gura

>>23535108
Jesus Gura is not even #1
Although I can say it's really weird not seeing Gura in the top 5 of charts that get posted here regularly like the CCV chart, the watch time chart or the SC chart

>>23533378
should have a dildo on that seat

>>23535128
>his retarded take on popularity doesn't make the whole metric useless like you claim.
That it was created to measure popularity is one criticism

The other, the main criticism, is that the whole reason "VOD views / time" is being used instead of just "VOD views" is to either benefit those who stream less frequently or to punish those who stream more frequently

>>23535108
gura is not even at the top, this is the literal definition of rent free

>>23535195
>the watch time chart or the SC chart
In both these cases the only reason is her low output of streams

Kuzuha shill stream gold 30k
https://youtu.be/LqgcDhH540s

>>23535245
holy meds

>>23535245
No slipping?

>>23535206
Where's the VOD views chart? I've never seen one or are you talking about the watch time chart where Kiara is at the top of EN?

>>23533786
>there is no reason for any metric to punish a streamer that streams more often or longer streams
literally more than half of ironmouse's streams on that marathon month were just sleeping and re-streams

>>23535206
If by "just VOD views" you mean a sum of every source, i.e. shorts, songs, streams etc, then yes i would argue it's bad. Hell even for stream VODs alone there absolutely IS a difference between getting 300k views in an hour and getting 300k views in 6 hours. It's just not the same.

>>23535245
Kek now manhwas are sponsoring vtubers. Judging from the pic, it's probably about MAX SOLO LEVELING, MAX LEVELED PLAYER RETURN, RETURN OF THE MAX GAMER

>>23535195
The big one really is the ccv but that’s because a lot of JPs have inclined since then (Subaru, Miko, Suisei for example) and, well, the ccvid issue is still present that’s making things complicated. It’s not like Gura’s views on her vods have went down, it’s still the same chunky vods as always, but the ccv ever since ccvid has just been rough. Seeing 14-18k on gta when she’d be getting 22-25k just a few weeks before hurts

>>23535292
>Where's the VOD views chart?
Use https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-channel, sort by last 7 days, last 30 days, that's what people usually use when comparing VOD views growth over time.

>>23535126
No. Not everyone can be a pekora.

>>23534437
be a retard and get called one

>>23535313
All of those are shit

>oops I died
>oh well let me shill my merch and album real quick

>>23535306
>even for stream VODs alone there absolutely IS a difference between getting 300k views in an hour and getting 300k views in 6 hours
I'll indulge: what's the difference?

Unless what's being measured is
>effort
it shouldn't matter whether a streamer got a VOD with 300k views in 1 hour or 10 hours

>>23535313
Its this one
https://www.webtoons.com/en/action/im-the-max-level-newbie/list?title_no=3915&page=1

>>23535343
Now we have vstats that track individual stream/upload/premiere. It's nice to know what views comes from the past and what's from the recent activity.

>>23535380
I mean it is shit but I've read them anyway. The slow updates are what's killing my interest of them.

>>23535370
I agree, not everyone. Usually has to do with personality. Gura's personality mirrors Pekora, she doesn't have her drive in streaming that's all. She's more likE FBK.

>>23535407
Kek I knew it. How much did they pay Kuzuha for this? It's useless.

>>23535126
Wrong.
Ame lacks energy to be anything like Pekora nor the drive to push herself for long periods of time

>>23535303
The comparison is between holo's and I dont remember seeing holomembers that restream and stream while sleeping. I don't understand why you bring ironmouse here.

>>23535245
Why are manhwa so obsess with reincarnation story?

>>23534959
Then enlighten me what a 'useful' chart produced in this very website refers to? Everything here is fucking useless when all the relevant metrics are walled behind their own Youtube Studio, and those are the ones their management use to make various decision and to shill the streamer to get some sponsorships. All charts here are made purely for horseracing, nothing more and nothing less. It's just that the charts that chart anon made are probably the one with most context behind its making, that's why it's the most reliable around here. You seriously think the charts thrown here are actually for academic and business purposes?

I'll hereby propose something called "the Sana test":
>any metric based on VOD views that has Sana ahead of pretty much anyone is inherently flawed

Here is the reasoning
>Sana had less VOD views in the past 30 days than KIRYU COCO FUCKING DEAD ACCOUNT

It's not a hard threshold: if Sana is outranking ANYONE in any metric involving VOD views that metric has an inherent flaw

seems like it's just sea hours max gura shitposting
checked catalog and global

and Noel is shilling that shitty game again to only 3k people
god how much money did they pay Cover to shill that shit for months

>>23535245
So holo gets a manga sponsorship while niji gets korean manhwa.

>>23535523
Solo leveling became popular.

>>23535553
She hasnt streamed in awhile whenever a holoEN vanishes for a bit it riles up shitposters about them eventually

>>23535523
It's the same for Chinese Manhua and Korean manhwa. They're all self inserts. The quality degrades over years and itthe setting are already used up. It's hard to find a good novel/manhwa. The second coming of gluttony is the best one, but the manhwa isn't doing it justice.

>>23535523
same reason the nips are obsessed with isekai
when life is a shitty grind, you fantasize being somewhere else doing something better

>>23533234
Amidst a thread of shit at least we still have chart anon bless you

>>23535553
>checked catalog
Here are the most recently created threads, lots of garbage but not really about Gura?

>>23535245
>solo leveling bootleg
Do gooks really?

>>23535523
same reason Isekai is/was so popular with nip LNs a few years ago, it's cheap power fantasy that easily sells to an audience of wageslaves

>>23535544
Coco is literally dead and you are retarded

>>23535523
Escapism is popular

Only 2 streams with 5 digit ccv. Pretty slow morning altogether

Suisei 24.4k peak after a 2nd place finish
starting a new round, might win gold if she got champion next round

>>23535245
No fujo
No gaming
20K

>>23535627
scroll down
earlier bait threads didn't seem to get a lot of bite, hence the move to global and /here/

>>23535749
There is a schizo here desperately trying to bait people ever since he woke up somewhere in asia

>>23535343
>songs and shorts are counted
>old vods are counted
that's very inaccurate

* numbers 15 minutes before primetime *

PER BRANCH
>73657: Hololive (6 streams)
>37239: Nijisanji (12 streams)
>11404: Neo Porte (3 streams)
>4266: VSPO (1 stream)
>3538: Nijisanji EN (1 stream)
>2561: Holostars (3 streams)
>1801: NoriPro (3 streams)
>1632: .LIVE (2 streams)
>1311: SugarLyric (1 stream)
>1071: Crosspiece (1 stream)
>641: VaPart (1 stream)
>463: Nijisanji KR (1 stream)
>112: VOMS (1 stream)
>66: VERSEn (2 streams)

PER COMPANY
>76218: COVER (9 streams)
>41240: Anycolor (14 streams)

>>23535822
see
>>23535424

>>23533982
>tldr
Kys

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1520907653958053889
https://twitter.com/nekokan_chu/status/1521086161740963840
bros give it to me straight, what are the odds of an actual collab?

>>23535822
It is accurate, you might not want them included but the numbers aren't wrongly counted like for example stream hatchets

Im just glad she got more than 15k considering apex destroyed her number last month.

>>23535872
zero
noraneko under strict management control now
haachama might be able to trick her new manager but other staff knows her antics now

>>23535822
That's the nature of comparing VODs with the currently available tools.

People proposed a metric that is *not* retarded, just not very feasible because no tracking site tracks it
>VOD views 24 hours after stream end / 48 hours after stream end
Ideally this should be "0 seconds after stream end" but Youtube post stream processing is retarded and time for all the views to accrue is necessary.

But as no tracking site tracks that comparing VOD Views is only feasible like this.

Maybe now that vstats is a thing it could be possible to do what >>23535424 says and at least exclude uploads and premieres

>>23534737

>>23535126
>>23535370
>>23535440
the closest to Pekora is unironically Kobo

>>23535872
Do you have temporary amnesia after waking up? I know it's you again posting the same shit

>>23535964
kys holofag

>>23535919
It wasn't apex, it was mad dog aqua overlap who did

>>23535407
Jesas out of these option >>23535313 that one is the worst/most boring out of them. And im a pretty tolerable guy for those kind of story too

>>23535872
>>23535924
>noraneko under strict management control now
Wut? What's the backstory here, why would Anycolor management decide to block this collab if the girls ever wanted to do it?

10+ posts about manhwa and noone mentioned the worst part about them yet.

>>23535523
Because we all want a irl new game+ if given the chance. It's literally the ultimate escape fantasy, the ultimate wish of any human... that is to be given a 2nd chance at life

>>23535997
holoboard, holothread. Seethe about it

>>23535544
I agree, that fucking chart has fucking Sana above fucking Koyori, like jesus fucking christ

>>23536103
well what's the worst part about them, chink whisperer?

>>23536055
NTA but I don't think that's what he's saying
he's (presumably) just saying that the cat isn't allowed to do whatever the fuck she wants unless it was approved by mane-san

>>23536103
Which is?

>>23536139
Haachama had a cooking off collab with Hoshikawa on HSKW channel, did this particular cat did something outrageous in the past to justify extra caution by her management?

>>23536103
>>23536145
70% of them are copy of solo leveling?

>>23536145
they are korean

>>23536035
The novel is good, the manhwa is bad. Simple as that. It's pure adrenaline in the novel and the story ends quite nicely with a great conclusion/moral ending.

>>23536188
Stream more Ayame! Stop shitposting and go stream!

>>23536188
Ayame approved

>>23536181
Someone get the NoraNeko copypasta for this newfag!

>>23536103
Chink manhwas are the worst of em. Martial god asura is still on going and has 5000 chapters. How is the Manhua gonna end?

>>23536136
>>23536145
They always try to show that korea is better than japan if not outright shit on japan

>>23536181
anonchama...do you really not know what noraneko has done?
see the way I see it, haachama and noraeko are pretty similar, two sides o the same coin even, that coin being their love for the shock value, they just go about it in different ways

>>23535835
versen...

I swear most shill streams like this Sin Chronicles bullshit is number poison

>Roboco-Chloe offcollab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2ynaIXlGb8

Remarkable part is Roboco using the trailer thing to shill the virtual real album? Live?

>>23535614
Also Taoism
Like literally, Taoism promote reincarnation and improve yourself to gain POWER. Chinese and Korean born with that built in their culture

>>23536396
The game being shit also not helping

Tales of the Unusual is the best manhwa

>>23536442
It's not even her first shill stream either

>>23536396
>>23536442
last time it got brought up someone here said there was some actual drama with that game which is why is doing so shit even for a shill game

>>23536428
it's been 2 years, Robo...

>>23536268
The only good chink manhuas are the ones published/written by hong kong/taiwan. Example : Ravages of Time, Song of the Long March, and other's i forgot the tittles

>>23536275
Yes. But chink manhua also do the same but worse, so?

>>23536437
Reincarnation with memories intact is a bad setting. Second coming of gluttony is a rewrite in reality, the dying man's wish is to bring back the feeling of deep regret 10 years before so that his past self could correct himself earlier. It's a nice setting, since the gods in that novel says reincarnation is a bullshit mechanic.

>>23536428
that's a real old album
does usagi pro even have them in stock?

omniscient reader's viewpoint > solo leveling

>>23536181
>>23536241
quick rundown of cat
>Made 2 uber eats drivers race each other
>First she placed two simultaneous order from the same place to see which one of two Uber drivers would delivered first:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=r_I6643ustM
>Second time the ordered from uber eats and Mcdonalds delivery:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gGbUHxvsY3E
>Third time she ordered from uber eats the went to the story to buy it herself to see if it would be faster:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4sY2SUz44Ag
>Placed clothes pins on her nipples during a endurance stream to the point her nipples caught necrosis and nearly lost them
https://youtube.com/watch?v=I21CbgW30CY
>follow up
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bNgxtPdVSjk
>Did an endurance stream until 250k where she sang and did flash math at the same time
>Randomly decided to do a stream impersonating Gilzaren III, a chuuba infamous for streaming very infrequently (he was gone for over 3 months) in an attempt to make his channel reach 100k subs, then dragged other people in like Deron and somehow managed to call the real Gilzaren and have a basically inverted totsumachi with him and other people. Her pc crashed/internet disconnected and he was forced to stream on his channel the continuation right as he reached 100k subs
>Hijacked the nyancat relay and sang it for 14 hours straight, leading to kino moments like almost choking trying to eat food
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ntK5v3PsHW4
>Did a cooking stream where she literally made sushi out of worms
>Decided to stream making naan at 4am, and while she was letting the Naan dough rest for 10 minutes she grabbed her streaming laptop and went to a park, climbed a jungle gym and started singing at the top of it
>Asked taka (an indonesian man) to teach her how to cook naan (indian cuisine)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=X7Co2VoZLJE
>Did a talk show stream where she imitated hiromoot's zatsudans
>Once did eigo-only totsumachi for a straight hour with Nijis who speak broken eigo, resulted with unforgettable moments like "DO YOU RAIKU DONARUDO TORAMPU? I RAIKU DONARUDO TURAMPU"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=P5e4cVkC-TM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PX_onUBlv-A
>Broke her hand because her fucking microwave fell on it while she was sleeping
>Falling asleep during stream and get 250000 yen Superchat while sleeping
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hsMVAqF6EJE
>Dislocated her jaw quite often during stream
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hNC7futCr08
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vqOY37ztns4
>forget to stop stream and sing asshole song live.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZAqa6GBICHY
>Bake a Naan in the middle of collab stream.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eLHQtDfJ8Is
>Clean her mic with a fucking vacuum cleaner. Ended up with her mic got swallowed by vacuum cleaner.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=6RcCIAKzoIY
>Attempting to embezzle Anycolor funds to make in-game purchases with their account but staff found out and called to stop her
>peed in her friend, Fumi's bathtub. Another member of Nijisanji.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7mZwD-vyaEk
>once tried to stream a taste-test for McDonalds' promotional Rice Burger, bought the wrong burger, and then cycled all the way back to McDonalds while streaming her laptop on her bike, interacting with the stream at stop signs and getting stopped by policemen on the way. She ended up audibly dropping the burger and her laptop on the ground after finally buying it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqwDvABpUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5lQ815Wsgs
>and the follow up where she actually eats it instead of dropping it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OqwDvABpUE
>have a fight with her little sister live in stream.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-4uHUczDGoY
>asked for 2434 packs of potato chips in a twitter competition and they actually fucking mailed it to... the Anycolor office. So everyone has to help her finish the chips.
https://twitter.com/nekokan_chu/status/1061272090177757184
>forced her manager to stir natto for hours on end during a livestream
>forcibly ending a round during a mahjong tournament, costing another play a win
>made 3 oji-sans (Itou Life, Meika, Gwelu) sing a natto song she made up
>for some reason big youtubers in Japan like Hikakin, Yutapon and some politicians follows her.
https://twitter.com/yousei_ide/status/1356598979526496256
https://twitter.com/taimei1/status/1380503135832010757
>did a 300k endurance stream and ended up falling a sleep midstream. So all gen1 and several Livers decide to come to her channel and stream for her.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=JAhCj0WHqR4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iU5Y8JZCK8M
>actually shit live on stream.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=OfM_XkaYNmA
>anykara actually have unofficial guide to newbie on how to deal with Noraneko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXqKp3gbvfk
I think this is the one ,l anon hoshikawa is pretty much as normal as regular haato....

Roberu surely is overperforming since VSakyou and since Uproar debut.
It can safely be said that he was the one that benefited the most from the renewed attention on his branch and he made the most of it by leveraging his circle of streaming friends

>>23536564
ORV is so-so. I've read it, but the ending wasn't that good. It's like Shield Hero's ending.

Im just sad we dont see the ending of The Breaker.

>>23535392
>what's the difference?
Viewer churn in 1 hour is vastly less than viewer churn in 6 hours. It means that you can get in an hour what someone else gets in 6 hours. You reduce that to just "effort" but it is a measure of interest. Grinders get rewarded for their effort, as they should, but time absolutely matters and things need to be put in perspective. One of the reasons i dislike twitch thots getting massive watch time numbers while sleeping on stream is because that metric doesn't put any time perspective or context in it. Just taking all VOD views and summing them up with no context isn't much better.

>>23536619
SEASON 3 CONFIRM ANON!

Suisei 25k aiming for gold and champion, not looking good for the silver queen

>>23536568
kek, sounds like a mix of Matsuri and unshackled Haachama.

>>23536595
I'm curious why Oga cannot incline like Roberu or Astel? Among all the Stars he seems very versatile.

>>23536275
I mean tbf japan also constantly shit on USA or rushia
>>23536526
The best reincarnation story i read so far is Real Man, since MC tryana redemp himself from the ambitious asshole he was before and save his family, seniors and friends from misfortune.

>>23536718
it's because he's black, not even a joke

>>23536428
ah now i remember. she doesn't have azamina on her channel. that preview is it. she really should make a proper mv for that song.

>>23536620
I understand what you are saying and, for as flawed as the publicly available number is, everything you said as a flaw of just adding up VOD views is the exact reason for the CCV comparison as a measure of interest.

Trying to use a metric that needs to be speculated (VOD Views) to measure interest when CCV is more appropriate doesn't really solve the problem of unreliability of the later, just shift it to the type of math that makes Sana beat Koyori in a metric that exclusively uses VOD views (see >>23536119 and >>23535544).

>>23536595
seems like hes just been streaming buffs

>>23536747
That's a good thing, literal rent free because they really see them as competitors lol.

>>23536718
I think it's a niche thing. Roberu is an excellent talker and host. Not to say Oga isn't but just not quite up there as Roberu. Meanwhile Astel gained most of his incline doing apex I think and retained a bunch who liked him for being male rushia essentially.
Oga is really fun and has a great voice. I think he needs to latch onto a specific niche idea and run it into the ground until it succeeds or if fails do it on another niche.

https://youtu.be/3F02Zf4pknA
she's been streaming for 20 hours? what the fuck?

And that's why Cover should hurry up with HoloKR

>>23536552
still available https://usagipro.base.shop/items/31124133
even virtuareal 01 is available
guess how many dead chuubas on this album

>>23535822
Not many old stream vods can gain views so I think it's okay. And if they can, still a great thing, means that they are indeed popular for people to revisit.

>>23536119
She's at the bottom when I use median instead of average
Seems like median is a better choice
This one has a stream threshold of 7

>>23536894
HoloES first

>>23536941
this one's even worse, just stop christ

>>23535523
Escapism and power fantasy
There's a huge wealth gap between the landlords and tenants in Seoul.
Reincarnation stories are just time travel stories where the MC fixes the past and gets rich because he knows about the future
Imagine if you could go back in time 20 years. You could cheat in the stock market, "invent" iPhones, own millions of bitcoins for pennies, groom the top actress...
Female gooks, on the other hand, want to reincarnate in a medieval Europe from a novel where they are a villainess (duchess, baroness)

>>23536774
I like using CCV but CCVID and bots make it very unreliable now

>>23536989
shit plot

>>23536985
>it's worse because I said so
using VOD views only you'll get shit like Mori and Watame are ahead of Gura >>23535822

>>23537072
so gura has to be at the top, gotcha
maybe tell her to stream more if she wants to be higher in the metric that everyone else uses

>>23536866
Oga has day job, that's why he only stream at midnight jst

>>23537103
I don't even watch Gura but she's clearly the top of EN right now, any metric that can't show that is unreliable

>>23537072
I mean... what's necessarily wrong with that in just that context?

micomet is currently at the top
cute

>>23536718
>why Oga cannot incline like Roberu or Astel
>>23536767
>it's because he's black, not even a joke
in part this and in part because his design is part not human and that's a turn off
>similar to IRyS

>>23537156
>any metric that can't show that is unreliable
Mori music views > gura music views

>>23536924
this is the real powerhouse
most of them still active

>>23536989
>Female gooks, on the other hand, want to reincarnate in a medieval Europe from a novel where they are a villainess (duchess, baroness)
That genre is popular in Japan too
I don't know where is the country that has that genre popular first

>>23537185
More like Japanese woman loves femboy /grass eating type.

>>23536866
Astel's niche and incline is actually split between apex and singing. Some come to watch him only for apex/fps, some watch him only for his singing.

>>23537156
yes, but she's bad at farming views through streaming (which is, you know, the thing they get paid for) but we have to bend over backwards to include her somehow because she gets high vod views, to the detriment of other characteristics that are important to streamers, which, you know, all of them are

>>23536275
Manga shit on China and the US
Chink manhuas shit on the US and Japan
US capeshit comics shit on Russia, China and the nazis

Lapu is doing an utawaku endurance to 770k on Wednesday
>middle of the slot again
https://youtu.be/Yq7SBodB5YE

>>23537290
>>23537208
Biting lame bait like this, both of you

>>23537157
we need a metric that can represent popularity as closely as possible
Sub counts aren't good, CCVs aren't good, VOD views are good but it gets tricky when you take into account songs, shorts and streaming time

>>23537185
Don't kink shame, Oga just want to be an NTR demon

>>23536718
That's the numberrot talking, he's a 500 ccv streamer and is the third most successful holostar tying with Shien and Miyabi. He's not doing bad at all
And before you go "500ccv lol", remember that's five times what Versen gets on the regular

>>23537305
>to 770k
why

>>23537305
what's the pun?

>>23537340
It's golden week, that's why

>>23537340
a lot of them have meme numbers that are those number puns nips like a lot

>>23537229
Actually I think it's Japan did it first with their Shoujo genre. For example way back in the 1970s they have something like Ouke no Monshou.

>>23536941
>Sana ahead of Ollie, Reine and Choco in April 2022
Anon, look at this pic.
>pic related
There is no metric involving VOD Views that can possibly have Sana ahead of anyone, she's dead last in VOD views by any sane metric

I got a list
Here's the order of my list that it's in
It goes Marine, Peko, Miko and La+ from holoX, Mori, Suisei, King and then Gura
But in this industry she's the cause of a lot of envy
So when she's not put on this list, the shit does not offend me

I have your fucking list right fucking here
*unzips dick*

>>23537422
because she streams less often than them
Sana is still an EN holo after all

>>23537326
Good luck with that lmao

>>23537229
JP always did it first. Manhwa doesnt create their own popular trend. They copied whatever trending in JP or china hence why tons of isekai/redo and martial arts/murim shit

>>23537402
now that i think about it magic knights rayearth is actually quite amazing for fujo power fantasy creation
they took all the popular genre and mashed it into one
isekai, magical girls, giant robots, bishonen

>>23537496
Culled list

>>23537531
don't worry, i invested $11 on this baby

>>23536774
Why limit yourself to just a single metric? All the metrics we have are flawed one way or another. As far as i'm concerned, unless it's a colossal flaw on the level of bilibili magic numbers, i see no problem with it.

I think popularity can be measured by how many people check the livers out. They'll go out of their way to watch them live too. So the more popular they are... the more people would want to watch them. Anyone with me on this?

>>23536275
so? japan regularly shits on medieval fantasy kingdom

>>23536941
anon I don't think you can compare vods of too different durations

>>23537663
well unless you count bots as people

Ayy dick whipper anon is back. Now we just need rimjob schizo and balance will be restored to /#/.

In numbers related news, chances of Roboco breaking 10k with Chloe?

>>23537663
>livers
opiniondiscarded.apng

>>23537229
>I don't know where is the country that has that genre popular first
the current format of
>average woman dies
>gets reincarnated into a otome novel/game
>as a villain duchess/countess/marquis or any other european aristocratic title
was popularized by Japan with Otome Game no Hametsu Flag (Bakarina) LN

>>23537765
with this overlap? dunno, graph looks promising

>>23537340
77 = nana
Laplus is a huge Nana Abe fag

>>23537765
fewer overlap than usual, they'll probably get it

>>23537500
Anon, Sana had 7 streams in the 30 days period in that pic, for 439k VOD views
Choco had 3 streams (including the one today) for the 7 days period which has that 493k VOD views.

Of course holostats are taking the whole body of work for the streamer but even if you restrict Choco to only her 2 best performing streams
>pic related
Those two streams alone beat the whole 30 days period by Sana adding up all of her streams so far.

That's a fatal flaw, there is no possible metric that uses VOD views that can have Sana ahead of anyone for April or pretty much any other month

>>23537642
>unless it's a colossal flaw on the level of bilibili magic numbers
What I am pointing out is that this metric (view / time) has a colossal flaw. See above.

A metric with only VOD views as their input can never have Sana ahead of anyone.

>All this talk about valid metrics to numberfag
Ever considering just...not numberfagging? Like you guys don't even know what's going on behind the scenes to know whether one person is successful over the other because you just straight up don't know the industry. Sure the horse race aspect exists and is probably the only "valid" thing to numberfag but everything else is incredibly stupid when you have no real context.

>>23537868
t. 2view

>>23537868
Im only here for the horse race and chartanons monthly median charts and sometimes this place goes /news/ so thats also good

>>23537848
I don't see it as a colossal flaw. You're just nitpicking an outlier to try and delegitimize the whole metric at this point. Chuubas with few streams have always given flawed results on pretty much every metric, including CCV.

>>23537814
fuck
i should have known

>>23537961
Usually, the news comes in specific generals, then it gets brought to here, then some retards goes to make a thread in the catalog because the only people who cares about news and discuss them with multiple replies is this place

>>23537868
>come to basketball fans' debate about who is the better player lebron or jordan, based on the players interview about their respective diet and routine before games and salaries.

>>23537966
it's not the only stupid shit on your fucking chart, haachama is above fucking botan and noel

How accurate is Socialblade when tracking VOD views? I was looking at Aether's VOD views and no way she got +8k vod views yesterday.

>>23537848
it's median anon
Choco just has some very low performing streams

>>23538055
Not my chart, but I do hope that anon keeps making it, I find it useful as a supplement to all the other metrics this thread makes, even if it's clearly flawed.

>>23538083
I think the site wrote about the daily update, you can go check it.

>>23538021
aggregation is what i like. Dont need to keep tabs on every general to see whats going on with things thats too much info to follow at once.

>>23538055
and your vod chart has Moona above Irys and Ina
No chart is perfect, stop nitpicking

>>23537305
Can laplus actually stream more than 2 hours

>>23537966
Anon, it's not nitpicking an outlier, there is nothing but outliers in this list.
Here is another: Haachama. She's ahead of Ina for the month of April but
>Haachama only had 6 out her 21 streams over 100k
>Ina had ALL but one of her 15 streams over 100k

This metric has this collosal flaw, you can't have a streamer with all (but one) of her streams over 100k VOD views be behind a streamer with only 6 streams over 100k VOD views if the only input for your metric is VOD views.

And in this case Haachama even streamed more often than Ina

>>23538171
Go Fauna Go!

>>23538171
There is a reason that chart is not used to compare VOD views for the most part, and it is because it compares the whole body of work of a streamer.
That's why there is no "ranking of VOD views" in this thread for the most part, there is no objective measurement tracked today that could make it possible.

king 15k at 6minutes in

>>23538206
because Ina streams are longer
You can't read?
Longer streams have better VOD views

>>23537765
10k GET!

>>23538171
I will not stand for bullshit obviously meant to boost people who stream less, they're fucking streamers

>>23538206
Personally i prefer this anon's charts, the weights do make things better.

>>23538285
I understand that anon, and that's the whole problem of the metric. Instead of objectively ranking by the metric being used
> VOD Views
it uses a bilibili tier of ratiocope to punish longer streams, to punish frequent streamers and the result is a monstrosity that has a streamer with fewer VOD views ahead of one with more VOD views.

If you are using VOD views as the sole metric it makes no sense that a streamer with more VOD views ranks lower than one with fewer VOD views.

>>23538287
Neato, first one since her 3d live back in early March.

Sifting threads seems i missed some news. Prism is now backed by Sony? And Phase Connects 2nd gen seems to be coming soon. Wonder if any of these startups will eventually claw its way up to stand with big corpos.

I hate susan so fucking much

>>23538323
kek, yeah much "better".

In that magnificent "akai naaa" month where Fubuki outranked even the fucking Hololive Main Channel ( including 1M a pop HoloGra) and had the most VOD views of any Holo channel she finished behind Gura, Marine, Pekora, Ayame and Laplus in a chart that only take VOD Views as input.

That is an even more retarded metric as this "views / seconds" one because it involves even more inaccessible and unexplainable ratiocopes within the main ratiocope

>>23538423
>Prism is now backed by Sony?
Not backed, Sony bought them stock lock and barrel

>>23538472
>>23538359
holy fuck stop nitpicking
NO METRIC is perfect but you can still get the general idea using them

>>23538537
stop ratio coping

worming on mysta stream, might get 20k+ if the trend continues. currently at 12k

>>23538472
It's a shame that this chartanon gets demonized like this by this thread, his chart has more effort and thought put into it than any other chart here by far. This too is flawed, and no indication of popularity, but it is a good chart.

>>23538537
Anon, if you are ranking by VOD Views and have
>the only channel to have beaten Hololive Main Channel in VOD views below anyone that month
>Sana ahead of anyone in April 2022
>Haachama ahead of Ina in April 2022
Is inherently and fatally flawed

>>23538637
>his chart has more effort (...) put into
It takes a lot of effort to dig a huge hole from 9AM to 1PM and then fill it back up from 1PM to 5PM but it is equally useless if it brings no useful result

>>23538585
Doubt it will go that high but considering it's a single POV collab with shoto numbers are definitely going to be higher than usual

>>23537185
Here is a fixed and improved Oga
>pic related

>>23538585
Sir this is a non event mysta stream, why would it get 20k? Worm is present in every nijien male stream now, high and low. Probably how verification handles luxiems audience. Also I'm physically sick lened how often these fags have "bottoms" in the title, worse than vshojo at this point

>>23538506
Oh my. Wonder where thatll go. Didnt sony fuck vtubers in the past

>>23538713
that actually looks worse what the fuck?

>>23538713
This is somehow cursed

Is Kuzuha also getting wormed?

>>23538717
i swear you could make some twitterfags get upset for mocking the term or some shit if you wanted to mess with them

>>23538713
so this is a straight white male oga huh

>>23538717
Do you not enjoy every other title or content being sexual and/or pandering out of the top two luxiem?

>>23538713
Oga could honestly do good if his model was a dark skinned shota and plays into a Stewie character

>>23538805
>>23538717
It's a buff stream. Mortuary is a good horror game, even more so that there's a Collab.

>>23538717
single pov collab, fujo pandering on east asia primetime, pretty high potential if you ask me. im just reporting the chart and trend, didn't meant to imply or accuse anything with my post, not that it is relevant either way.

I find ratio VOD anons chart to be stupid but some of the arguments people use are also stupid. Like "ree they're streamers that's what we're measuring" when so many vtubers are so much more and the pissing matches itt are about overall popularity. Some try to argue their oshi reigns because of ccv, vods, subs, song views, fan engagement, superchats etc
Vtubers are more than just streamers.

>>23538743
>>23538750
kek, come on, it is much better without the horn. I don't master "color temperature" yet so I couldn't make a realistic skin color for him but you get the gist.

>>23538795
>so this is a straight white male oga huh
Sadly it ended up coming out as "vampire Oga that can't ever be exposed to sunlight or he'll explode" but the gist is there, more or less an explanation for why (>>23536718) "Oga cannot incline like Roberu or Astel"

>>23538873
no it makes him look like michael jackson during his later years, piss off

>>23538873
Oga is the asmr artist type but his model isn't attractive at all. He could be vox tier if he has a good model. The artist sucks, that's it. Even Mysta and Shu has shit model.

>>23538637
>by this thread
seems its just one seaschizo, check the times

If anyone is curious like me about why Mysta's Shoto collab is higher than usual this time (~14k when he usually gets ~11k), it's because Shoto isn't streaming his POV on twitch.
Usually Shoto streams his POV and he gets 10k himself so Mysta or Vox only get like 11k, but this is an actual single-POV collab.

>>23538997
why are you curious, unless it's contending for gold, i don't give a shit about the fags

>>23538936
In fact, most male vtubers has shit models too. Kuzuha is salvageable, but he still looks like shit. Kanae and Fuwa is attractive. Vox, Ike and Luca also. Potential is high, but they also have rigging being shit. The only design I find good is probably Council's gender bent characters with good rigs.

>>23538975
it is the enschizo, he's easy to identify

>>23538975
>>23539089
lol keep coping, no one takes ratio charts seriously

>>23538637
>>23538652
I didn't make this >>23538323
chart
If I knew it exits I wouldn't make the chart today
Anyway here is the total VOD views (streams only) from the dataset that I crawled

>>23538713
This reminds me of Ironmouse's meat stick but green.

>>23537961
Honestly it's healthy to not visit these threads often because you start feeling bad when streams "underperform" numberwise, when it doesn't affect the actual quality of the stream.
Doesn't help that the horse race is addicting to follow and the dopamine of a big number stream makes it hard to quit.
> this place goes /news/ so thats also good
This was actually the reason why I came back after being clean for a week.
I wanted to know what was Kanae's announcement yesterday and now I'm back to numberfagging.
Fuck.

>>23539153
ok, this one looks kind of ok, won't call you a retard for this one

>>23539060
>why are you curious
Because it's a bigger number than usual
> i don't give a shit about the fags
Then ignore it instead of responding, fucktard

>>23539165
>Honestly it's healthy to not visit these threads often because you start feeling bad when streams "underperform" numberwise, when it doesn't affect the actual quality of the stream.
you need to learn to compartmentalize better, my oshi is a fucking low mid shitter and i'm glued to the screen everytime she's on

>>23539153
this is actually more interesting than your previous (weird) one

>cull cope because their favorite branch didn't perform as well as they desire
>bot cope because their competitor is performing at the threatening level to them(a.k.a rent free)
>"Youtube number is clearly erroneous"
>now resort to using other non related metric to tweak their imaginary number to their desired outlook
Stop, it's embarrassing. This is terminal level of coping

>>23538866
the main reason metric timeloops keeps happening is because 'metric' posters keeps failing to properly label and give additional data as context (if required) to their charts/rankings.

>>23536941 for instance doesn't properly communicate how and what the chart is based/ranked on in its image, making potential tourists or numberfriends themselves thinks it is a general performance score (or is what they think the metric poster is persuading them as is) and view and judge them as such.
this particular chart also fails to give the relevant data as additional contexts such as time streamed and/or frequency streamed.

Why are chinks so salty today?

>>23539397
holowinsagainlol

>>23539338
20.04.2022 happened.

>>23539397
mori 24k

>>23539429
what the fuck happened that day, i can't even remember who won gold 2 days ago

>>23538472
kek you act like fubuki got as stable high numbers as Gura, Marine, Pekora, Ayame and Laplus on that month. No, it was just the pokemon ones, which made more than half her streams, so her >median landed high on one of those.

>>23539153
I'll second >>23539218 and >>23539284, this one is absolutely non retarded

>>23538454
I deadass thought that was Chloe when scrolling through Holostats streams.

>>23539445
Botted ccv

>Roboco being literal 2view
How do we save her?

>>23539476
the birth of halschizo

>>23539531
what?

>>23539501
>if we take out all her best performing streams, she actually lost
this is what you sound like

>>23539338
stop cutting your arms and do it on your neck instead

>>23539546
sex with Matsuri

>>23539397
when are chinks not salty?

>>23539531
>Deflecting
Where's the bug spray?

>>23539165
My favorite has won the paralympics twice only in 4 montha. The threads mostly for fun for me i dont take anything posted here seriously because i dont enjoy big number streams more than my favorites despite being a middling performer of her branch but watching the tallys still is kind of fun in its own way and seeing threads during close races or stuff like Vox karaoke is some of the more fun threads ive seen on vt in awhile

>>23539581
Man, are you me?

>>23539546
>a fucking W

>>23539501
Anon, that's not a median of peak CCV but a chart based on VOD Views, which is a measurement purely incremental
>a person view a stream for the required period of time = 1 view
it makes no sense to divide by any other metric and specially not to divide it by the stream time.

Look how more reasonable this is: >>23539153, a very objective chart
> monthly average of VOD views for the streams broadcast in the first four months of 2022
Easy to explain, easy to understand, easy to make a head to head comparison.

>>23539546
Her PC died for some unknown reasons

>>23539610
>W of Watamage
BEHOLD THE SIGN OF THE DEVIL

>>23539610
>>23539546
the power of pon of chloe and roboco combined killed her pc

>>23539638
WATAMAGE

alright /#/ bros
does Kaela belong to waste of spot tier?
>absolutely destroyed by her genmate in every metric
>one month+ in, still can't beat sana subs
>out all of ID, only able to beat iofi in ccv

>>23537961
Just remember that even though this thread have around 100 IPs but it doesn't mean there are 100 people /here/. It could just be you and me talking to each other with dynamic ip, so the whole "Holo dying, Nijibotting, 2 view should graduate" should never be interpreted in a serious way.
Personally I come here to see the "Oh no no no Holobros/ Nijikek explains" and have a good laugh every now and then.

>>23539610

>>23539675
Fuck off retard.

>>23539634
but it favors try hard like Kyori or Kiara though

HoloX fell off pretty hard. What happened?

>>23539675
some holos are meant to be niche fillers anon, you're not supposed to get 5 pekoras every gen, like do you think they hired Luna expecting her to be a superstar

>>23539397
see >>23536591

>>23539729
>>23539675

Stop making it so obvious you fuck. At least wait about 2 minute