/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>23344234
*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>23344157
OH NO NO NO NO NO NIJIBROS

this

46k, final push towards hag lewds

>>23344198
easy, those 2 invited the boys to their events.

Let's see if Peko can get Mio the gold.

>>23344085
>3D live with only 2k
I mean…how…?

enter pegor if this did not reach 48k it will never will after her

>>23344233
Didn't Mahimahi PL have drama with MichaelCat in the past?

Mea opts to ride a Homo's cock

>>23344157
That's obviously a falseflagger (it's probably you even) but 2k is much lower than what the other more conservative anons predicted, guess the overlap with Holo is too big

47k, coming down to the wire

>>23344302
Nijisanji in shambles
Hololive thriving

>>23344257
>when even kson beat you
its over...

I'll be honest. I couldn't find Mashiro's 3D stream on Vrabi. I never thought that I had to scroll that much to find her.....

>>23344257
stop replying to yourself

https://twitter.com/irys_en/status/1520017270512455680
Randomly drop a new song...again

where were all the fabled Niji tourists?

>>23344320
stop violating my poor boy you whore

>>23344280
But i want Nodoka & A-Chan lewd more.

the abosolute state of nijisanji 3d

>>23344354
self-sabotageRyS...

>>23344357
Those are some Kiara SC reading numbers

48K
>48K
48K
>48K

triangle singing for 5k people right now. really hope she gets her live 2d soon

>>23344357
the poor girl can't afford to pay the nijibots

>>23344257
kson's been in the public eye a lot more lately.

Speaking of - Leto is having a birthday stream - one of her sisters and among the latest kson indy fangirl conquests

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsN5PjACjM

She's not tracked by Playboard, but 1.5k$ donations so far. Quite a lot for a streamer this size.

>>23344357
in their copium induced wonderland

>>23344387
They spent all the bots to nijien

>>23344354
She has been talking on it on stream a bit, but im guessing the MV for it is delayed yet again.

>>23344387
>26 minutes
w-what

>>23344320
He's getting a major incline out of this too. It's win win
>Mea gets back into the "Holobox" (sort of)
>Roberu gets some hetero street cred

>>23344388
>self
You mean cover?

900 left aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>23344387
Suisei blanco...

>>23344354
at this point this is just an obligation for her, she doesn't care for her songs pushed by her management.....i'll take my meds

>>23344444
your numbers are correct

>>23344387
But how?

>>23344327
Overlap with nijis too

>>23344354
They really should have Suisei teach some advertising 101...

>>23344444
quints confirm

>>23344320
As other Anons have said it really seem to be a pretty good arc for both of them. Helps that they are actually pretty entertaining together aswell.

>>23344387
come the fuck on nijibronies watch your fucking livers

NODOKAAAAA NOOOOO

>>23344444
Nice numbers

LET'S
FUCKING
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HAG LEWDS LETS GO!

49k!!
>49k?!
49k!!
>49k?!
49k!!
>49k?!

Nodoka slipped

Strong day for Holos so far

MIO GOLD

.......my Nodoka lewd.....
It's over......

NOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT NODOKA LEWD

>>23344573
Emperor...

Now let's get to 50k

>>23344429
ffs omega

Nodoka lewds.... Nooooooo

>>23344444
Why are niggers always having neat quint numbers...

SLIP SLIP SLIP

the nodoka lewds...

While i want my nodoka lewds, HAG lewds are not bad either its a win win

HAG CHADS WIN AGAIN

>>23344348
>>23344357
>>23344387
MAhiro had a pretty decent return in Feb-March, where she went from ~300 to ~800 average viewers.

But, she's basically become an ASMR specialist. Which ofc means she spams FPS games
~2k for ASMR streams
~800 for zatsus/singing
~400 for gameplay

With some more push and a clearer schedule think she could have gotten 5k for this live.
Considering Alice and Momo barely got 8k for their full duo live.

yeah but mio lewds

>>23344619
I'm a holofan mainly and I still think irys is getting awfully managed by cover

>>23344617
>>23344637
>>23344641
There. A fansa

Like I said, April is cursed.

>>23344354
she did mention that she's got a new song coming but didn't know the release date
announced it on a collab even
why didn't management tell her the release date so she can build hype?

>>23344659
>cover
Omega*
There you go

>>23344648
MILF SOMMELIERS WIN AGAIN!
>cunny appreciators BTFO!

there are 2 active threads + an early thread that no one used
why are you guys like this

>>23344234
>APRIL 2022 GOLD
1) Okayu (Hololive) - 30,846 - Okakoro 3rd anniversary
2) Aqua (Hololive) - 86,536 - APEX custom
3) Hal (Neo Porte) - 95,384 - VSaikyo landmark lottery
4) Calli (Hololive) - 79,242 - 3D birthday live
5) Aqua (Hololive) - 42,497 - Eating sushi
6) Okayu (Hololive) - 53,317 - 3rd anniversary totsumachi
7) Subaru (Hololive) - 34,190 - Horror game
8) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,055 - APEX custom
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,307 - Elden Ring
10) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,335 - Elden Ring
11) Aqua (Hololive) - 61,955 - APEX custom
12) Hal (Neo Porte) - 36,464 - APEX scrims
13) Korone (Hololive) - 39,692 - 3rd anniversary totsumachi
14) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,595 - APEX scrims
15) Hal (Neo Porte) - 37,639 - APEX scrims
16) Aqua (Hololive) - 70,426 - APEX scrims
17) Hal (Neo Porte) - 166,003 - APEX VSaikyo tournament
18) Pekora (Hololive) - 37,756 - Minecraft
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 21,559 - Horror game
20) Miko (Hololive) - 47,332 - Shiraken collab
21) Kanata (Hololive) - 49,428 - Return stream
22) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,099 - 3D birthday live
23) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 36,934 - Valorant tournament watchalong
24) Mikeneko (Indie) - 61,589 - L2D model reveal
25) Polka (Hololive) - 34,858 - Totsumachi
26) Choco (Hololive) - 40,040 - Subaru king collab
27) Marine (Hololive) - 118,698 - 3D live
28) Miko (Hololive) - 34,950 - Umamusume

> PER COMPANY
22x: Hololive
4x: Neo Porte
1x: Indie
1x: Nijisanji


> PER STREAMER
6x: Aqua
4x: Pekora
4x: Hal
1x: Kanata, Miko, Okayu
1x: Calli, Choco, Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Mikeneko, Polka, Subaru

50k IKUZOOO

>>23344303
49k peko

>>23344354
Can I apply as IRyS' music manager? I think that with zero experience in the music industry and zero experience in music production, I could do a better job than the current team behind project Hope.

>23344719
filtering the retards

>>23344652
Niji 3D live is usually a tourist central. Is he hated like Hajime or something?

>>23344748
J.E.S.A.S

50k
>50k
50k
>50k
Stop the count!

Mio 50k get

Mio 50k Getto!

>50k

Here ya go, anons
https://files.catbox.moe/0srhpp.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/2b5wd4.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/l1tn9z.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/rgebiz.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/x6g9o9.mp4

>>23344659
They should get someone from JP management to manage her honestly. Or make Suisei's manager manage IRyS as well.

EDF dlc

>>23344748
AAAAAAAAAAA HOLOLIVE SUMMER PLEASE COME BACK

>>23344719
Nodoka one was late + made by the Hal gold schizo + jinxed her
Good as retard bait at least

>>23344748
>Hololive Summer is never coming back
Why even live

>>23344320
MEA STOP HARASSING MY BOY WITH YOUR CHINKS INFESTED VIGINA

> 50k
50k
> 50k
50k
> 50k
50k
> 50k
50k
> 50k
50k
> 50k
50k
> 50k
50k

MIO INCLINE CONFIRMED

>>23344809

51k getto

>>23344808
they should also let her write her own songs, because her required songs are shit

That's a lot of upcoming member streams, do holos typically schedule them for friday/saturday?

HAG SEEEEEEEEEXXX

>>23344756
i didn't do shit i just asked

>>23344830
how do u know the 2nd one lmao, but i see

>>23344420
Sasuga Yaman's daughter always getting high SC numbers.

>>23344809
>>23344848
I LOVE EDF AND I LOVE MIOSHA!

>>23344856
AFAIK IRyS isn't a songwriter/lyricist tho. She could at least get Mori to help out.

>>23344809
Behold! A Weapon to Surpass Metal Gear

51k with shit audio lmao good stuff Miosha

>>23344806

>>23344848
>>23344809
https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/1520019838785429504

>>23344809
HOLOLIVE SUMMER! I BELIEVE!

>>23344856
Not necessarily. Some of the Hololive's best songs are not written by the Holo themselves. All she needs is a better producer.

>>23344758
Niji 3D live are NOT tourist central unless it's a huge event like NijiRock, NijiFest (with multiple guys).

Individual 3D lives, especially female, sometimes do worse than their regular gaming event.

Rion's also had about 8k and Sister Claire's 6.5k, both with multiple guests.
The fact that everyone just streams over them unless it's an event also doesn't help.

>>23344652
Holy shit these are Holostar's numbers.

>>23344808
Suisei manages her manager with the amount of shit she forces him to go over at this point

>>23344862
Don’t know about typically but today it would be a good idea because of the two heavy hitting multi chuuba streams taking most of the pre prime time and prime time too

>>23344949
Is Hayase Sou famous ? Her 3D got over 30k or something.

is nijijp unironically dying?

>>23344949
>The fact that everyone just streams over them unless it's an event also doesn't help.
nijis don't consider 3d lives to be events?

>>23344897
>>23344940
whatever the reason is, her songs are shit so find someone better and she'll definitely market her own songs if she likes them.

>>23344954
>Holostar's
Nope. Astel and Roberu hit that, the rest are much lower

>>23344997
Anon its only thanks to kaneki they live

>>23344998
There’s so many Nijis that they don’t care unless it’s the popular ones or it’s a 3D debut.

>>23344954
Aren't Astel and Roberu over like 1/3rd of NijiJP's numbers?

Where's the monthly chart?

I still cant believe niji only won 2 gold this month. Jesas...

>>23344856
She doesn't have the experience. Currently the songs are being written by people that would likely be writing for her even if she was in charge. It's not like it's just some idiot at Cover writing them for her. It's people that have been in the industry for a while.

>>23344809
Can't wait to see Mio stream EDF6

>>23344997
>is nijijp unironically dying?
The warning bells ring if their koshien tournament noticeably underperforms.

>>23344502
She can't advertise if Cover doesn't tell her until a few hours before it releases

>>23345074
Hey they got more in the paralympics!

>>23345096
well, I'm not very impressed with them. Surely she could Suisei to recommend her some songwriters.

>>23344420
Experts say her channel already has an eight figure yen total in SCs thrown which is pretty nuts for an indie who's only been around for half a year.

>>23345067
and I think that's more because popular ones will suck their numbers, and 3D debuts are usually a one-time thing.

I can kinda understand, since more and more Nijis are slowly getting 3D rolled out, 3D will just become a "gimmick" type stream and a lot of livers just straight up won't be able to stream if they dodge every single one.

>>23344897
>Mori
We want her songs to be better, not worse.

Please leave the lewdposting for AFTER the final tally please.

>>23344387
jesus christ, this is sad
why don't nijifans boxpush

>>23344994
Are you talking about her 3D debut anon?
That's a special event with no overlap.

She got 72.5k for that one, partially because it was delayed due to her operation.
Otherwise, she's like 1k.

>>23344997
NijiJP (the brand) is still healthy and continues to incline unironically. NijiJP (the talent, specifically the girls) have been in free fall since 2021. They're like modern day WWE where the talents are no longer able to reach the heights of a John Cena or Rock but the brand itself remains strong. Contrast that to Hololive where each individual girls, even the shitters, are basically a brand of their own.

>>23345125
The ones where their victories have funky looking graphs and their competition is CCV crippled?

Pegors enter again numbers jump to 52k, Nousagis really?

>>23344997
At this rate, I don't wanna know how their IPO will go down. Almost all of the momentum is on Hololive and on Niji it's yab after yab, usually internal ones.

No idea what they're saying, but the numbers, they go up!

>>23345165
You're not supposed to mention that.

>>23345125
With unarchived karaokes and celebrations

>>23345165
Hey be nice to the Nijiworm, no need to call him funky just cause he is a bit different from all the normal graphs.

>>23345165
"victories"

REFLECT :
1st day : 1,542,038 2nd day : 2,209,932 Growth : 667,894 Ratio : 43.3%
KING :
1st day : 1,411,424 2nd day : 1,976,681 Growth : 565,257 Ratio : 40.0%
Marine Set Sail!! :
1st day : 1,294,398 2nd day : 1,672,353 Growth : 377,955 Ratio : 29.2%
Q :
1st day : 1,084,148 2nd day : 1,580,224 Growth : 496,076 Ratio : 44.8%

>>23345225
hot

>>23345244
hey! they got that 2 full wave collab... on jst prime... as the en branch...

>>23345130
Anon, Mori's writing would be en improvement over whatever they're doing for her EN songs right now. That's how bad it is.

>>23345129
It’s pretty unrealistic to tell 120+ talents to not stream during the best time slot for some nobody.

>>23344354
Unironically Irys cried on a previous stream because she doesn't get a fair treatment of advertisement like other HoloEN/JP does Kek

>>23345267
Oh no...that growth is slowing down....

>>23345267
damn, it really doesn't have legs? and what is that ratio

>>23345316
2nd daily views / 1st daily views

>>23345128
I saw some stuff from her after those clips came out,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jv7fEc41PI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwnMh-RAQCA
she's got VERY strong "i want to protect her" vibes and the shy goddess/angel image works really well. gachikoi magnet weather she wants to or not.

I actually thought she might straight up be Kanata using a shit mic in how much she feels and sounds like Member-only Kanata.

>>23344997
>>23345040
>>23345161
>>23345191
Are we really going to ignore Anycolor just publishing their FY numbers where most of their revenue and profit by far comes from NijiJP? Really?

>>23345267
damn, you guys literally went to track this only now to get a win on something else, lmao

>>23345130
Mori being on the credits would actually be a buff believe it or not. Similar to how Cloudy Sheep got a lot of attention because “ft. Mori”.

>>23345289
proof next thread?

>>23345347
that's pretty shit then.

>>23345267
>ratio
Why, even?

>>23345380
you know the answer, this would literally never get posted if it wasn't for some butthurt enshart

>>23345002
>she'll definitely market her own songs if she likes them
Most holos don't market their own song. It's frustrating.

>>23345289
>>23345360
the truth is we don't know why she cried so we shouldn't speculate but honestly it isn't farfetched to say it's because of management

>>23344387
Mahiro is one of the least popular Nijisanji so this is actually big for her. not great but not totally bad

>>23345357
Speaking of Mori, i'm kinda suprised she and IRyS havnt done anything together yet, but i guess that might be because of cover red tape.

>>23345039
nigger most of the holostars are 5-800 ccv streamers, that's the exact same range she's operating at

>>23345357
Cloudy Sheep got a buff because Mori had part in it, not because she wrote it. 2completely different things.

>>23345424
cope

>>23345360
It's her last Hades stream

>>23345397
You dont have to be triggered ywnbjkun.

>>23345432
has Irys collabed with anyone on a song? I don't think it's happening anytime soon.

>>23345424
NIJICOPE

>>23345472
INCEST

Sorry Mysta, 10k is for heterosexuals

>>23345468
timestamp ?

>>23345289
Fuck off nigger, she cried because she got a super talking about how much they appreciated her and what she does and chat followed up.

>>23345483
i'm not the one posting contextless bullshit to make my whores the perfectly superior ones that can never get passed on anything you fragile fuck

>>23345494

>>23344354
God she's dumb. I think she got spoiled by algorithm magic in her pre hololive days and she thinks getting views is just about releasing songs and crossing your fingers that you get blessed. She desperately needs Suisei or Marine to show her the ropes of numberfagging.

>>23345289
She got drunk and raped by Moris friends

>>23345267
Makes sense, the MV is not the full song so people are not playing it in the background.

>>23345397
>>23345380
Ratios are the cumtards' only way of shining nowadays. Even with their VODs and songs overperforming, they still get beaten by other Holomembers when mentioning the monthly total views.

>>23345516
https://youtu.be/pSEFNqzKgIM

>>23345580
that's where you're wrong, you miss the anon that does the fucking vod divided by streaming time ratio chart

This meme has the potential to hit normie JP internet lmao. And 2 months after the original.
There's already so much fanart on Towa's tag.

>>23345580
monthly total views is literally because Gura is a lazy shark though, how do you expect her to keep up with the holomems who stream 2x more than her.

>>23345267
Well that ratio does make sense - Set Sail was bound to be incredibly frontloaded with the gigantic "funnel" after Marine's live.

>>23345527
You are fragile, O' little one. You dont sound like a numberfag, context is given for that matter. Unless you are still in preschoolm

Nijiniggers are getting uppity again, someone post that

>>23345406
proof next thread?

jesus christ imagine mio's numbers if the audio wasn't totally fucked

>>23345622
I don't understand that meme.

>>23345380
>>23345397
i think a lot of marine fans are en viewers. If anythings its the deabeats as Pedochums love Marine for some reason

>>23345653
i literally said we don't know for sure, you faggot

>>23345284
anon not all nijis stream every day or at the same time. There's many who don't even stream or are on break. like in this week, many didn't stream
>Ryushen who stream regularly didn't stream
>Gilzaren streams one time per year if any
>Kataribe did 3 streams in 2019 and never again
>Roa you know her situation
>Aiba hasn't been streaming much since her 3D last year and is mostly focusing on university outside of music projects
>Then you have Mugi, Sayo, Kohaku, Shiba, Ichigo, Rine and Banego who rarely stream

>>23345623
And she has more than twice the amount of dead subs than the others. Your point?

kek

>ratio

>>23345693
only the japanese are anal about copyright

>>23344354
God, what a utterly failure of a human being.

>>23345676
https://youtu.be/VNxObENJDms

>>23345693
fucking japs and their obsession with copyright and dickriding corpos

>>23345693
fuck copyright

God I hate nijiniggers so fucking much

>>23345267
why are deadbeats like this

>>23345676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-uPT3AxMY&t=1s
People have started drawing Towa dad in different jobs/situations after having quit his job as a doctor.

>>23345691
subs don't correlate to views though, did I ever say they did?

>>23345676
Original is Mikkorone 24 hour stream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-uPT3AxMY
Apparently some dude made a Mii of Towa-papa and appeared on the recent KanaMio Mario Kart stream : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHo3CGVBuG8

which seems to have caused a surge of Papakin fanart on Towa's art tag.

>>23345768
h-h-hot...

>>23345693
Nijiniggers trying to defend themselves in the comment section.

>>23345507
>9,957: Koyori
>9,846: Koyori

Welp, that confirms it.
>13,372 Koyori playing baseball
Only a MAN's game can make a pink, gay dog straight.

always a good day when a hag gets gold

>>23345777
why is this hag so cute bros...

>>23345349
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this... drama impacts the stock price.

>>23345792
So if I add a title and URL in the description, I can stream entire copyrighted movies on youtube?

Towa doing a ALGS playoff watch along. Anyone wanna throw out some number predictions? Guessing it might hit 20k myself if she get the Mio funnel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb4XIDMvcoo

>>23345730
kek, try posting ANYTHING with a Warner song as BGM and you’ll see how wrong you are.
Better yet, use any Disney property in anything ever

>>23345792
oh shit is that Luca's stream? Is he getting 炎上'd?

>>23345816
dont know

>>23345855
the people, not companies

>>23345685
Come to think of it, a lot of the previously daily Niji JP streamers have slowed down or taken weeks-months off since March started.

Noticed with Hisupi who used to pump 4-8 hours a day, then just fucked off after her 3.0.

>>23345741
Aren't the Japanese way more lenient with copyright, which is why we have archived Japanese karaoke, but only unarchived English ones? If you upload a song from an American company, you'd get sued to oblivion.

>>23345842
Of course Nijisister! Through the power of unity and friendship, everything is possible after all!

>>23345853
didn't Hal already watch it? I assume a lot of apex tourists would've visited him first.

>Polka gets gold
>Choco gets gold
>Mio gets gold
Good times

>>23345682
Take a hint, retard.

>>23345801
talking about pink dog, let me show you a magic trick

>>23345889
Ah fair, didn't know it wasnt a live watch along. Properly gonna be around 10k instead then.

>>23345886
most Japanese songs are under JASRAC, there's nothing similar to it in the west

>>23345864
I saw that comment 45 min ago and he didn't have any like(I was the first one). It seems like japanese are starting to riot in his comment section

>>23345842
Nah, but that’s what Towa requested. That’s more or less standard for “free beats” as requested by their producers

>>23345886
they have the rights to only a specific range of songs, and the EN tubers want to sing English songs they don't have rights to

the ENs are employed by a Japanese company so they're fucked

>>23345693
Did he actually use Okayu's like everyone said? Because that one was explicitly not free to use according to the creator and Okayu doesn't have mention of it on her stream description

>>23345349
That doesn't contradict what I said here >>23345161 though. WWE makes a shitton of money, more than they did even during the height of the attitude era and yet none of their current talents would be considered main MAIN stream like how the rock, SAS, Undertaker or even mick fucking Foley were. The brand remains healthy as fuck because that's what the company prioritized. You could probably pull some random nip dude off the street and they'd know what Nijisanji is. But I fucking bet that more people would know who Pekora is than most individual niji talents.

>>23345842
Well he added the title at least, so he must be either reading the threads here or getting comments about it.
Okayu hasn't talked about the perms, but she's generally chill about it (unless the music artist has issues).

>>23345853
Chii-chan is getting 7.2k on Twitch, watching RPR
https://www.twitch.tv/chihiro2434

Maybe 7k for Towa too? Hard to tell, because the few Holo fans that tolerate Apex do so because of the cute interractions she has with the other players.
Don't know how much they'd care about just her watching pros, or how many tourists will come.

>>23345842
Towa fucking tweeted to say it's free use, I know this is the Niji EN anti thread but dragging this back up again now is retarded

>>23345886
When someone says dont redistribute the song, dont.

>>23345949
he did use Okayu's but I doubt she'll say anything.

>>23345935
There is, just not for the purposes that VTubers use them.

>>23345380
Because we have multiple instances of songs getting a massive headstart but failing to go for the long run. Off the top of my head Gura's Target for love hit one million really quickly, and then basically stalled, so it's nice to see what the difference is like

>>23345938
That’s pretty funny. Don’t really think anything will come out of it other than his manager maybe telling him to not do it again in the future.

>>23345976
It's funny because at first it was only the youtube link without titles. I guess he got scolded

>>23345873
>the people, not companies
Anon, the whole “it’s better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission” is mostly a third world thing that, for some reason, became an American thing too.

In most of the civilized world it’s terribly rude to use other people’s property without their consent, and double insulting to do so with the entitlement of thinking it’s the correct thing to do.

>>23345647
>>/vt/thread/23331437#p23331437

>>23345999
>I know this is the Niji EN anti thread
why do they always like to play the victim?

>>23345949
He did, but neither she or the creator has said anything. Might want to drop her a message or two

Chloe releasing another original song. Will it be good n actually a full 3min song?

>>23345999
but not Okayu, so really it she or the original music creator wants to go after his ass he's fucked

>>23345976
>needs to be called out
Must be a retarded kid

>>23346078
Isn’t that the one that’s supposed to be in English?

>>23346061
Eh, if she hasn't said anything it's probably best to leave it alone. I wouldn't doubt this was spoken about when Towa decided to make things clear

>>23345999
I know you are just a chink fujo coming here to do some damage control, but Towa tweeted AFTER people started shitting on the nijiCN and there's nothing coming from Okayu yet
At first he only posted the links without the titles and got called out for it

>>23346100
that's exactly what a nijinigger would say

>>23346056
they need sympathizers anon so they get a high ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNx2W4nt0V4
>VIDEO IS UNAVAILABLE

>>23346078
No it'll be 1 minute 12 seconds

>>23346078
I doubt it.

>>23345999
Yes, and Towa's tweet is a solid proof they didnt ask for permission

>>23345924
I'd rather post Koyo lewds, thank you.

>>23346100
Don't you have a dox site to post your shit?

>>23346015
Think it might get the entire of NijiEN a talking to from management about not just taking random BGM's and using them without checking what they have permissions for.

>>23345976
he privated the stream

>>23346134
KEK

>>23346110
Are these "chink fujos" with us in the room right now anonchama?

stop reading this thread luca

>>23345999
>Towa fucking tweeted to say it's free use
After the fact. Okayu or the BGM creator didn’t.

There is no distinction (moral, legal or otherwise) between using a specially crafted song as BGM without the author’s permission and using a specially commissioned illustration as the thumbnail or background room for a stream without the author’s permission.

>>23346015
>Don’t really think anything will come out of it
And there goes the stream

>>23346180
Yes, here
*Hands you a mirror*

>>23344819
on twitch

>>23346162
>>23346179
still here for me

>>23346015
>vent channel on official discord
>piracy
Must be tough managing grade schoolers

>>23346100
>if she hasn't said anything it's probably best to leave it alone
That’s not how the Jun’sGang rolls anon

>>23346134
Well guess they decided to go with the editing out after all lmao.

>>23346218
That's not what I'm getting, is it a region thing?

>>23346198
probably editing the stream now to remove that BGM

>>23346088
Well, yea, given the shitstorm over his mod-gf that anyone with a few braincells would have realized is a BAD IDEA.

>>23346134
holy shit lmao

>>23346134
>nothingburger they said

>>23346249
ah wait, it just kicked me out

>>23346198
I thought it was a nothingburger

>>23346134
really?

>>23346134
I didn't do any report as i am watching the wolf hag right now but damn I am glad this fucker privated it. Okayu's BGM creator didn't seem to be fond of having his bgm used in other channels.

>>23346249
It's privated now yea.
Either going to edit out music/parts or just leave it unlisted to avoid further trouble.

>>23346134
Management didn't want to have 2 holo channels in the video description

>>23346015
Yeah, there were maybe one or two JP comments during the initial yab.

But after Towa gave permission, a bunch of JP holofans found out about it from her twitter and other discussions.
And they went to check they found... no title, just the URL.

From JP sensibilities, this basically goes "use other people's works --> get conditional permission afterwards (to avoid PR issues) --> Still don't follow the proper instructions", as if consequences don't matter to them.

I'm guessing Luca's impression has been quite damaged among JPs, probably even more than before...

>>23346320
I assume he's just going to mute the music on those parts.

>>23346134
Any chance this stream is making it back edited? How long was the BGM on stream?

>>23346198
does privating a stream remove comments?

>>23346301
>. Okayu's BGM creator didn't seem to be fond of having his bgm used in other channels.
What? No he's fine with anyone using his works, it's just Okayu and Towa's specifically because they were commissions. But Towa was ok with it, so he should be OK with her decision since she paid for it, but Okayu's was never said to be free use. Not in her description, not in his.

>>23346358
Yes, including the channel

>>23346333
>But after Towa gave permission, a bunch of JP holofans found out about it from her twitter and other discussions.
>And they went to check they found... no title, just the URL.
Towa 4D chess

Another day of Holo JP domination and now /#/ out of nowhere brings up Niji EN "drama" that already got settled hours ago. Why does this keep happening, are we being raided by dramaniggers, do you retards let the irrelevant Luxiem faggots live in your head rent free 24/7 or is it butthurt Holo EN fans deflecting from their side-branch's poor current performance?

>>23346333
Holy kek I didn't notice that first comment ahah, they're fearless and quite bold.

>>23345267
Comparing Marine Set Sail!! to Gura/Mori 's songs is because it's rare that having a similar initial boost.
Not for JP vs EN or Stream VOD

>>23346383
It's not even 4D Chess, if he wasn't such an incompetent POG spamming retard, the Towa shit would've blew over because all he had to do initially was put in the fucking title and link and he only did the latter

>>23344997
>>23346333
nijien killing nijijp (nijisanji brand) audience kek

>>23346078
Jesus, there've been so many Holo Originals this month.

Wish the chart would come out already, since it would be more interesting than the covers one.

>>23346333
Truly made in china. Quite ironic kpoptards support this when k-labels are more autistic about it

>>23346333
>But after Towa gave permission, a bunch of JP holofans found out about it from her twitter and other discussions.
Sasuga devil, such insight

>>23346437
Towa gave visibility to an issue only a couple of autists knew about

Kek. This faggots are probably regulars here too, being the numberfags that they are. Luca you're a fucking faggot and Mysta stop letting the numberrot get to your Asian monkey brain and see an actual Psychologist before you off yourself on stream for numbers! No wonder most of your countrymen think you're a faggot, and Mika isn't fucking you either so stop feeding that leech already.

>>23346399
new developments, get on with the times gramps

>23346399
and here comes the niji CN defense force right on time

>>23346434
I forgot to post the image

>>23346456
jesus christ I didn't want to fap today

>>23346233
how the fuck are they going to edit BGM while preserving his own speaking audio? idk much about audiomixing.

>>23346399
>settled hours ago
Retard

>>23346368
> Okayu staying silent, which implicitly means there is no permission
this cat is clever...

>>23346399
god I hope luca gets suspended just to see you seethe

>>23346333
>a bunch of JP holofans
do nijiniggers really?

>>23346434
yeah sure, keep telling yourself that's why you did that lmao

>>23346516
it used to just mute all the sound but YT now has a system where it can automatically just mute the music without affecting other sounds that much

>>23346399
Anon, Mumei by herself is more than enough for nijisanji En.
Forget about Gura, Mori and Kronii

>>23346134
uh oh, management san is furious

Subaru and Towa dangerously nearing 10k+ on watchalong content.
haiku funnel might just seal the deal if they end within the hour

>>23346593
that only works if the song is in Youtube's library though, and the fact that he could play that song without youtube copystriking his stream seems to indicate that it isn't in it

>>23346399
>or is it butthurt Holo EN fans deflecting from their side-branch's poor current performance?
Nigger if not for a fucking UNARCHIVED KARAOKE you would've lost to a minecraft where two bitches were digging a tunnel for 70% of it, shut the fuck up

Wait I don’t get how this happened. How would Luca even get those tracks to use on his streams? Seems like something that would take some deliberate effort

>>23346483
Taiwan is a country, Chairman Xi looks like Winnie the Pooh, the Tiananmen Square massacre happened, Vox is a fucking faggot as are the rest of them yada yada
I do not care about Niji EN, they are irrelevant as is this drama, why aren't you retards talking about Hololive's fucking amazing numbers today instead of this garbage

>>23346631
It is Episode 17.

>>23346637
oh ok, guess he may just be muted then

>>23346665
>holo bgm playlist

>>23346668
because we can't do that without a bunch of EN only fags coming to complain
you know what, this thread sucks

>>23346638
Id like to dig their holes too

>>23346407
the google translate is a bit fucked at the last part, he's basically saying "you guys are basically an 'I'll do what I want' company huh".

>>23346323
if the video never came back and/or Towa's bgm got cut as well then that basically confirms the NijiEN avoids holos at all costs (presumably due to the majority CN audience) rrat

Zeta 1.7k donation reading, pretty good i have to say consider this is the same number she got when overlapping with kobo.

>>23346134
>Nothingburger
Still impresses me to see it happening all the time Kek

>>23346711
What a wonderful world if that happens

>>23346665
he used a youtube "hololive bgm playlist" as his bgm

>>23346563
nah this is probably the worst it'll get, but it's funny that niji EN keeps making yab after yab
(then again, I also thought this was a nothingburger, but JP holofans proved me wrong lol)

>>23346722
Kobo doesn't have any audience overlap with anyone else though.

>>23346776
What a retard.

>>23346227
>official discord
I thought they also have their own personal discord free from managers?

>>23346134
>nothing hurger

>>23346776
what the fuck? aren't they supposed to be a corpo? you can't do shit like that

>>23346819
appearently he still thinks of himself as a 2view who's too small to get noticed by anyone important, see what happened to the elden rings thing

>>23346333
>JP holofan
you mean kenzoku, those fuckers are more or less just like hoshiyomis

>>23346776
Wait are you shitposting or did he really do that? It’s all so stupid I can’t tell shitposts from reality anymore

>>23346227
It was Elira’s server, not an official discord.

Numbers!

Piiiti, the Vsen loli is doing a sing till 10k stream
Already up to 62 songs, 6 hours in...
Got 260 subs and 120 subs away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZS3xBvcwAc

These endurance streams are super hard if you're not in the Box™

>>23346819
>>23346836
his response

>>23345999
didn't ask for permission, so shameless

>>23346836
Hilariously this sort of mindset is exactly what got HOLOLIVE in trouble back during the copystrike arc.
Something something history rhyming.

>>23346786
it feels like they are doing dumb shit every few days, i swear it didn't used to be like this wonder what changed

>>23346134
Probably because having Hololive BGM on their stream would upset the chinks, nothing to do with copyright.

>>23346920
>wonder what changed
They started huffing their own farts because Luxiem became relevant

>>23346870
I read in his dox site, theres also another drama about his fans using his irl pic n send death threats to his friend. What a yab

>>23345950
Of course anon. Most people who are vtuber fans know Nijisanji, but we also know that the main branch is niche outside of Asia

>>23346858
She has the third highest subs already, greedy.

>>23346937
Chinks already hate Luca since he chose the independent country named Taiwan over them.

>>23346134
>a nothingburger they said

>>23346985
>Chinks already hate Luca since he chose the independent country named Taiwan over them.
He did?

>>23346962
https://twitter.com/furiosaa_/status/1519727695369756674?s=20&t=2UAatf6fwxy-UJnhZitFlA

>>23346776
Seriously? lol

Of course, one of you already created a bait thread to invite fujos here again

>>23347040
Thats him? POG MONKEY alright

>>23346711
that's retarded. He's going to remove it because it's owned by hololive and it's not free use

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbB3KsFRv4U
>700k in a week
Doesn't Beat Eater have pretty good legs since it only had like around 200k after the first day

Towa hit 10k btw
She and Luca both get what they deserve in different way kek

>>23346882
If Cover copystriked Luca, the public opinion would've been terrible for them, with accusations of doing the same thing in 2020. But they couldn't just ignore it because that would mean everyone could use their stuff
That's why Towa gave permission to use her BGM as long as they linked the URL, but nobody expected Luca to be so dumb as to only post the link without the title, making it look like they didn't give a shit
All Luca needed to do was privating the stream first, then apologizing on twitter while they fixed the stream

>>23347105
Good legs is one of the characteristics for Suisei songs (cover and Ori).

>>23347105
>>23347155
Deathstar songs all have good legs, Capsule already hit 2.2m.

>>23346962
Fucking hell. Don't leak that shit here, I'm sick of watching subhuman behavior.

>>23347105
I wonder which will perform better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVsacQZTmiI
Both have smaller channel debuff and Mori debuff.

>>23347040
Kek. He seriosly looks like someone within the spectrum. Just imagining that this is the same dude that keeps saying POG is cringe as fuck.

>>23347138
the bigger issue is that he used 2 tracks, and towa only had the ability to give permission for ONE of them, so whatever he did he's basically fucked the moment the nips caught wind of it

>>23347105
Yeah especially for Reine’s channel it’s doing quite well. It’s already her fourth most watched video in 7 days. The top three are all over 9 months old

>>23347193
Mori is a buff anon

>>23347171
Wicked almost 1M

>>23347193
Anon... Mel is the debuff here. Reine ch is unironically less of a debuff than Mel ch. Mel has never had a 1m song

>>23347235
the better of the two

>>23347193
>28k after 3 hours
It's ogre...

Mel's Vampire cover is at 946k and has the best chance of taking Mel's 1 million virginity.

While we are talking about DeathStar

is Towa sucking audience from Hal? Looks like she saw King and Hal doing watchparty and doing the same thing

>>23347278
towa has done watchalongs in the past

>>23347235
I was a little unimpressed until I remember it was the topic version. Doesn’t even have a MV so that’s a pretty good showing.

>>23347193
>Mori debuff
She's only a debuff on streams (and even that's somewhat dubious for JP collabs)
She's a buff on songs

>>23345289
Really? What about ID then? She needs to be grateful for her privilege and maximize it.

>>23347235
>>23347252
Yeah, Wicked almost at 1m is actually very impressive. Topic channels just don't get promoted in the algo, and it's literally just built off people listening to the song itself rather than looking at the video.

Heimin?

>>23346858
thats not the voice i expected to come from that model....

>>23347231
>>23347238
>>23347299
>not recognizing shitpost

>>23347193
Will this ever get to 1M? Currently Mel doesn't have a single video that has over 1M views.

>>23347315
Hey Reine management is pretty good