/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

i had a good stream and my chatters were very sweet! hope the anons here also have good streams today!

>>23257139

Last thread since you forgot to put it in the op

tell me who is /vt/core on twitter i made an account when elon bought it

>>23289150
Truekocksukier is

How does that make you feel?

>>23290569
It's probably accurate. Most twitch viewers are awkward fucks. Meanwhile, I'm cool as ice.

Hi /asp/friends I decided I want to try my hand at making a Live2D model finally so to practice I'm going to start off with a chibi model before I go for a proper one.

>>23290678
I love the miffy details, anon! Very cute

>>23290739
Ayy you're the first person who noticed the bunny motifs are inspired by Miffy, nice

>normal streamer
>just streams and posts on twitter some times, collabs as a thing is rare

>vtuber
>you HAVE to shill on twitter and tiktok and reddit, have to network, have to get clipped, have to make friends, have to collab


Something doesn't add up.

>>23290989
Vtubers are under more pressure to perform and there's a lot of help out there in order to get better. Whereas normal streamers just turn on their cams and stream for 10 years without changing anything because there's not many resources for them out there to grow compared to the vtuber community.

>>23290989
the difference is that streamers are treated like normal human entertainers, whereas vtubers are treated like commodity products. It's the reason why there's always constantly some new gen of chuubas that everyone is sperging out over. It's actually really similar to marvel movies- people consume one product, enjoy it, then move on to the next one. Thus, any aspiring chuuba has to jump through 500 fucking hoops in order to carve out his/her little niche.

>ywn have an e-girl that genuinely likes your art

>>23290989
>people appealing to a niche have to work harder than someone appealing to the masses
>something doesn't add up
Are you THAT bad at math?

>>23291159
How much is she paying you for that art? She IS paying you, right? You're not giving her the equivallent of 60$+ dollar comissions for crumbs of attention, RIGHT?

>>23275376
I listened to two recent streams and your voice isn’t bad. It was calming, not excitable. For the chill design stream, it was rather nice to listen to while I did my own work.

What do you want your voice to sound like? When you say you want to get rid of your accent, do you mean to sound generically American? I think accents are a charm point, and it’d be a shame to get rid of it.

>>23291265
she pays them, no its not me

What good free resources for VA/VO training to help my voice/etc. do you recommend?

what's the best setup (hardware and software both) that indies use for full body 3d streams these days?
i watched some video guides about a year ago but i figure they'd all be outdated by now?

>>23291702
You have resources for those on the general pastebin, near the end.

>>23291912
VR trackers is still the cost effective way
Best way is probably one of the prosumer mocap offerings

>>23291997
Oh, I’m blind. Ok~

>>23290569
Very accurate.
I streamed to two people the other day and only felt a little bit of pressure to engage them.
I watch two views all the time and I feel an intense weight on my heart to be present in chat and look like I am actively watching and not just listening.

>>23291912
I think vrchat with thundra trackers would be the most viable?
You can fuck around with april tags or slimevr for cheaper, but it will be jankier and require more tinkering.

>>23290569
Streamers shouldn't put viewers on the spot. They didn't come to chat, they came to put on some low quality low effort mindless entertainment. This is true for 1 view streams and 100k view streams. Viewers that chat either want some low effort interaction or they want lots of attention. As an entertainer you have to allow them to show you which kind of interactive viewer they are.

As a viewer I was once watching someone make something and it was all very low effort. I was giving them some advice as I had experience in the kind of modding they were doing. Then one day they excitedly told me look today is an exciting day look, you could not sub to them. I was just thinking to myself like honestly I don't care, I'm just here because I'm curious how the mod turns out.

If a streamer doesn't have good theory of mind they will absolutely fuck themselves every day.

>>23290989
And most of them struggle to maintain a small viewerbase. It's almost like a pyramid scheme and the amount of people that do vtubing is proportional to the amount of fad chasers.

>>23290569
I have a strict rule to not greet anyone unless they speak first. Even when it comes to my regulars, I want a comfy environment where you're free to just come in and lurk without any pressure. Some of my most loyal viewers barely talk, but when they do there's very obviously a lot of thought put into their words.

>>23293048
>look, you could not sub to them
you could now sub to them

I'm still waking up.

>>23291159
I'm not that good but I still want to draw /asp/ies

>>23290678
This is adorable!! Best of luck friend <3

>>23288288
I have extreme paranoia that if I make a vtube model based off of some animal, someone else is gonna think I was copying them, in this case my animal is a rat.
Is it still okay to go ahead and make a rat-themed vtube model or should I just avoid it altogether? I would like to avoid as much drama as I can

>>23293207
I am amazed at how low the quality of a lot of streamers is. I'm not an amazing streamer, but I'm vaguely funny, have BGM, am not shit at games, and have an overlay. I also actively talk with chat.

I actually think raid retention is probably one of the most important stats, rather than CCV. High CCV can be hard, if people don't know about you. Retaining raids though shows your only problem is you're unknown, rather than being bad.

If you don't retain raid numbers past ~20 minutes, have a look at your own content. What do you do to welcome people in?

>>23294900
don't make a rat vtuber. I am the king of the rats and if I find you I will blast you and cancel you off twitter. rats belong to me. find your own animal.

Feeling really happy, I raided a bigger streamer and they checked out my channel live it was really embarrassing but made me happy

I genuinely want to keep growing as a streamer so I can do that for any smaller channels I see.

>>23294900
If you make a rat-themed vtuber, Bodega will literally hunt you down and shove baconeggncheesers down your throat until you graduate.

>>23294981
ok daddy

>>23294900
Nah just go for the rat if you like it. Just add some design elements that you personally enjoy to make it different enough from whoever you're scared of copying

>>23294900
As long as people can see the design differences between other rat and (You) rat, then there shouldn't be any problem. And anyone who tries to shit on you for it is in the wrong. Like how many shark vtubers do we have now? Monti is also adjacent in theme to ina but still have their separate qualities. Not wrong to take inspiration, but also make those your own.

>>23294996
kinda lewd

>>23295027
>>23295041
Thank you both, these made me feel better. I remember some nobody vtuber got upset at a small vtuber for having the same kind of name (not animal), so it made me think, how often would people accuse others of copying/stealing?

Trying to go back through some of the old feedback so then I can get that stuff fully stuck in my head, and try to do more with my voice/stream/content reps. Hopefully I’ll have a model soon so then I can express myself a little better than being a flat (figuratively and literally) PNG.
I apologize for going all menhera/whatever you want to call it lately, I have no real excuse.
I hope you will all still have me in the future as I try to figure myself out.

>>23294900
There is nothing new under the sun.

It's fine to take inspiration from others, and there are plenty of repeating themes and styles in the community, including specific animals. Perhaps come up with a mood-board to figure out your spin on the rat-take? Are you a cleanly type, or are you no better than a trash-goblin? A city pizza-rat, or a studious lab-rat?

>>23294952
Depends, money makes things better. There are some that dump a lot of money into it but they're toxic and rely heavily on their model and flirting with other vtubers.

Having a lot of money can cover up the warts by letting you have a stream that looks like a decent production. Otherwise people are more likely to tune out. The irony is that I don't think most of these make their money back, they must have other motives.

>>23294900
Most indie en vtubers are the most unoriginal people in existence. There are a lot of different art styles regardless of what the model is based on.

>>23294952
Raids always guilt trip me.

>>23295139
I did something vaguely similar in that when I hit partner (which lets you steal an inactive username) I took one that a lot of Vtubers have similar to what Kenji did. I did it almost intentionally to assert dominance over those with similar names.

>>23294952
I've never really bought the whole raid retention thing. It's so rare that career streamers with thousands of viewers rarely if ever retain half of a comparatively large raid. It's very uncommon to retain a raid even if your content is good. It'd have to be downright amazing, like actually revolutionary shit like Code Miko was at the time or something, or when Iron Mouse got that Melody raid and blew up. Very few people are that skilled and very few people probably will be that skilled, it's not always something you can just "look at your own content" for.

>>23294900
Platypus

>>23295139
I understand your fear. People can be very rude and trigger-happy about that kind of stuff, and having to deal with a mob you don't know for something you didn't do is probably fucking exhausting

>>23294900
Just Stay away from ponies... that's my job

>>23294900
Dude just do it, How many cat-themed vtubers are out there?

>>23296194
Many

>>23296194
indies carry on the neverending fallacy of kemonomimi+heterochromia == unique toon. So lots

>>23296194
true. I also sometimes see on my twitter feed, "I'm rebranding because I don't resonate with my design" when they're something *unique* and off-the-wall. you know in their heart of hearts, they wanted to be the catgirl all along.

>>23294900
Literally every animal has been done to death as kemonomimi Vtubers are the most common of all. Don't worry about it and just focus on the specifics of the design that will help you stand out.

I'm a vulture.

>>23297195
you're a black dude

>>23297195
Nothing about this design says "vulture", have you even seen one before

>>23297195
you look like a background character from a 2010s show inspired by anime but made by a western studio
pretty cool but have something that spices things up a bit

>>23297195
>vulture
You should shave the top of your head. I know most old world vultures have feathers on their head, but the public's perception of vultures is a bald head.

>>23297195
I mean maybe I could see a raven... and I'm not just saying that because your black. But the long black hair. And long red scarf. Otherwise I don't get you calling yourself a vulture

>>23297195
Fur-chested coat. Huge tuft of fluff down the front, in white, with a black outside. Almost pimp-like in how extra it is.
I'd also consider making some other changes, but they'll basically just sound racist.
there's not enough contrast in your skin color, eye color, and hair colour. They blend together, which added to the general darker tones on the shirt/scarf (seriously, it looks like the light has broken), makes this into a shadowy mess.
Going bald would, I think, be a good idea to reinforce being a vulture. Make your iris slightly smaller, or highlight the yellow more. Vultures tend to yellow eyes, no sclera; but currently I can't see, for certain, the line between your iris/pupil.

>>23297195
I just see a mexican waiter.

>>23297195
Think of how you would describe a vulture to somebody who has never seen one. Do you see any of that description in your design?

I've really enjoyed watching people get piled on for their shit designs over the past few days, keep it up /asp/

>>23299036
can't wait to post my design that i drew like a 4 year old and get shit on here

I almost had heterochromia with my design, but at least I made one decent decision with my design…

>>23299148
Bad art is fine, you can always give it to another artist. It's when you plan on using shit art as your actual model that people blast you.

>>23299525
i plan to use shit art to stream because i am not an artist and i don't plan on paying one because of a lack of money

>make tiktok and post to zero followers
>use vtuber hashtags
>get more interaction than I ever would on twitter
shit. I guess it's tiktok and reddit for me, bros. /asp/ led me astray once again

>>23299617
just say SOVL and deflect any criticism

>>23299617
It doesn't have to be a lot to get a decent designer. My designer takes on "simple" character sheets for $165 starting, and that price somehow includes commercial use. Probably helps that they're in Indonesia, and a student.

Waiting for the final version before I post it and get ripped apart here. :^)

>>23299768
Just look at how the big indies explode and you'll realize how good tiktok and reddit are for traction. But angry anons type a lot so people don't bother arguing anymore.

>>23299811
You guys overpay so much for stuff lol. That's honestly why so many of you are stuck pre dubt or as pngs

>>23299768
Who are you getting interaction with though? Literal underage teens? I don't want to attract the kind of people that would cancel me for saying "retard" on stream or the lewd art I get of my character.

>>23299811
I got a ready to rig model with basically every design element I want from an adoption post of a filipino artist. The bid started at $100. I paid $150 since I feel like I'm scamming them if I pay just a hunge for it. Also included a headshot illustration and a rough ref sheet. Plan to commission them for a proper ref sheet later on.

>>23299768
I've considered making a tiktok because of how much reach it has but it also fills me with dread if I got a kiddy audience from it. Should I just bite the bullet?

>>23300362
You'd be lucky to get any audience from it lol

Wait why did I follow these accounts again?
I think only one of them is actually a legit DM.

>>23297860
It's supposed to be a wig, but I wanna save money before I commission the artist to do an alt model reveal with far less hair. The plan is to not reveal it until someone in chat points out the hair, then swap to the "bald" model

>>23300483
Fantastic censor job bud. Really A+ work.

>>23300362
>kiddy audience
Young audiences aren't really that bad. Gen z's have a great sense of humor and you can get away with a lot of edgy jokes as long as you can play it off well.

>>23300483
Azu, what the fuck are you doing?

>>23300483
>Azu yo...
Following people is a mystery to me, there's no way I can read all the shit on my timeline.

>>23300005
>overpay for design
>stuck predebut or png

Legit confused, how does that follow? If I get a cheaper artist for the design, will that make them work quicker? Or do you think that if I throw too much money at one step, I need to wait to earn money for the next step?

>>23300483
starting to think ur quite the pon type, azu

>>23300511
>>23300710
iOS markup is ticking shit
Also I don’t know.

>>23294900
Buddy, nobody gets called a Gura rip-off for being a shark, nobody will doxx you and rape your corpse for being a rat. Just go for it. History says you are more likely to get shit for sounding like somebody than looking like somebody.

>>23300036
>I don't want to attract the kind of people that would cancel me for saying "retard" on stream

Most people will do that it's not just TikTok, good luck growing any decent sized audience.

>>23300005
How is that overpaying? It's a pretty normal price for a character sheet.

>>23301025
But seriously.. my own fault for blindly following accounts at like 6:50am.

>>23300005
If you don't pay for quality you'll end up paying again and again and again. You can use the lowest decent looking fiverr account you can find if you want

>>23301152
hmm i got a character ref sheet at 100 usd, but i think it's on the cheaper side for the quality that i want

>>23300943
>throw too much money at one step, need to wait to earn money for the next step
Not the anon but from what I've seen this is the case for a lot of predebuts. Compelled to pay way too much even on sideline stuff like twitch panels and alert sounds. Also saw a predebut posting like 10 emotes they commissioned. Haven't even started streaming yet.

>>23301251
150 is generally the price I see, you can get less on the lower end obviously but I wouldn't say that 165 is overpaying, but it all depends how much you're getting

>>23297842
>>23298045
>>23298464
>>23297340
I like normal-looking designs, but what I'm getting from these is that I look TOO normal here.

Guess I'll hold off on the whole "vulture" motif for now until I can afford another model.

>>23298601
Huh, you almost correctly guessed my day job...

>>23299036
I like the roasting, if nothing else it gives insight into how other people see you, especially since when I design visuals, it's often lacking.

>>23300362
I'm doing tiktok once my model finishes. Just been on waitlist for the artist i wanted to do mine for a while until now. I don't think it's a bad idea to hop on it, even if kids might find your content.

>>23301267
Yeah very few people can pull off the predebut gambit, and typically they're experienced people with other skills or a background in some kind of entertainment or creation, ie no one here

>>23301352
Argentinian waiter?

>>23300510
I think it's funny in theory, but the joke will just fall flat.

>>23301352
"show, not tell" is what you want when it comes to your major themes.

>>23301463
You were too far north and now you're too far south.

>I think it's funny in theory, but the joke will just fall flat
Ah, so like Kaela immediately saying she's "not a penguin" in her debut even though nobody said she was.
Except if nobody brings it up in chat, I'll just keep using the original model indefinitely. I'm essentially paying for a joke that viewers need to set up, and there's the chance that nobody will.

But if a model is never used, am I really down $50?

>>23301352
>I like the roasting
oh I do too, I wasn't joking

>>23301896
nta but, Colombian waiter?

>>23302226
Further north still...

>>23295770
>I've never really bought the whole raid retention thing. It's so rare that career streamers with thousands of viewers rarely if ever retain half of a comparatively large raid.
You didn't even bother trying to understand what others were saying, did you?
Nobody says that raid retention is retaining as close to 100% of a raid. If anyone WAS demanding that they'd be asking for something impossible.
But what raid retention is, is if you retain more than 10% of a raid, however, its probably because you did a good job of greeting the raiders and entertaining them.

/asp/, do you all feel like twitch affiliate harms growth rather than helping it? After all, if you ignore affiliate, you don’t get preroll ads at all. No ads might lead to less instant departures, right?

>>23301152
>>23301247
It's because you retards have no idea how to search for artist and other people to work with. You go to skeb or go with the person who has like 29 other people. I'm not here to teach you, because it's pointless to as I've seen. But yeah you're all typically overpaying pretty hard.

>>23302291
Honduran waiter?

>>23302386
Just because you found a pajeet to make a poorly drawn ref sheet for 20 dollars doesn't mean it's good.

>>23302386
Did >>23300172 overpaid too? What's your gold standard?

>>23302226
Panamanian waiter? Someone's bound to get it eventually.

>>23302612
Almost there

>>23302455
Meh, close enough

After watching a few streams (Mostly Pop N' Start, but also a few other indies to keep tight groups without announcing it) makes me wonder if your in-group is more important than the people you meet and dump.
Everyone is trying to network and collab with so many other people in order to grow their reach, but forming a actual group of people you know and get used to seems more important. Better raid retention, gets invited into actual groups, and increased synergy in collab streams.

>>23302356
I think having custom emotes, subadges and other things you get from affliate that build your community with outway the bads of instant departures

menhera…

>>23302725
So what you're saying is that having "friends" is good? That's been disproven time and time again by me!

t. no friends and incredibly depressed

>>23302766
Yeah, I'd argue that the emotes, badges, and channel points are kind of important for making people stick around

>>23302298
I'm glad you understood my original point, anon. At smaller sizes, a raid of 10 people sends you to the top of the game rank, and if you can retain any of them next time, it's large relative growth
It's partly why ASMR streamers do quite well - nobody ever raids outside of ASMR, and if you're watching ASMR, you tend to stay watching.

>>23302567
I know how to find artists, they do fantastic jobs and have for years.
>>23302589
Yeah sounds like he litterally paid more then he had to because he "felt guilty"

>>23302725
It's a tried and true method, a support network like-minded people is super important.

>>23302386
>skeb
yeah, not for a character design. not being able to have any back-and-forth for that would be terrible.
> person who has like 29 other people
you mean an artist with a queue? then you're waiting forever for them to get through it, and stuck in predebut hell.

it's not wrong to promote "fast & cheap", but then you gotta scrounge real hard for quality, or accept the lack of quality.

>>23302887
>"felt guilty"
For the extra 50 I got the headshot illustration and a ref sheet. Pretty good deal imo

>>23302887
>I know how to find artists
Give some advice then. You're in /asp/.

>>23303097
Would be surprised if he does. Usually tourists say wrong wrong wrong and then leave.

>>23303214
Those are called liars. Believe no information here that can't be verified at least somewhat

>>23302887
If you're not full of shit I have the feeling that you're the kind of nigger kike that goes to art sites, checks newcomers and then takes advantage of the fact that they still don't know how much to charge to get your shit cheap, hooking them with the "paying with exposure" bullshit.

In both cases you're absolutely disgusting.

>>23302911
>>23303308
You're retarded and should kill yourself.

>>23304012
Glad you proved me right. Opportunistic nigger.

Bait detection reps. Don't give him you's

>>23304012
>I won't provide any proof but trust me bro, I pay dirt cheap prices for good quality art and don't have to wait in queue, and on top of that I haggle them down even more.

Alright man we believe you, you can stop now.

>>23304072
I'll give (you) a (you) instead anon.

>>23304157
Thanks!

(You)

>>23303097
Nah I'm not a helicopter momma sink or swim bitch.

(You)

>>23303097
Not him, but a shitty move I've done in the past is outsource to family members.
>hey my favorite brother, how's work at the coffee shop going? How would you feel about using putting that art degree to a good use? It's about my channel, my current header is...

4000 bitrate. 720p 30 or 60? I wanna just set and forget.

>>23304063
Lol you're retarded

>>23304116
>>23304063
Reeee you dumb nigger bitch, help me reee. Why won't you help me, it's because you don't actually have anything kike. You nigger kike.

Kek, very sad many such cases of faggotry like you

>>23304451
60.

>>23290569
And that is why when you're a 2view is better to make generic engagement.
Instead of
>What is your favorite fruit?
Say something like
>I wonder how many people actually have a favorite fruit
Whoever wants to engage will give a response but in case nobody does, it's not awkward as a direct question would be.

>food analogy

What is a good way to do a “oh btw I have a live2D now” on stream?

>>23304798
What do you mean? Are you a png or facecam/less streamer?

>>23304798
Come up with a dumb skit or do a full planned debut.

>>23304836
Going from png desu
>>23304839
I don’t have the viewership for a debut. So maybe a short skit might work… if I can even do one.

I have a female model right now but I keep thinking about having a male model as an "alternative" model. I have a but of a higher pitched but still boyish voice so it would be a shots design, but I don't know if it would be as bad move? What do you guys think?

>>23304938
to be completely honest with you, sounds like a waste of money. If you're making it yourself, sure, whatever. Free content.

>>23304798
>“oh btw I have a live2D now”
Just say this

>>23304938
Instead of genderbender, how about a tomboy?
Although I don't think it's necessary if your mindset is just "I want to have an alternative" instead of actually have a idea to make it interesting.
Just remember that being quirk is only good when you can make something extraordinary out of it

>>23304938
If you're on twitch it could be a fun thing for a channel point redeem to switch to male avatar so you can gage if your viewers like it or not. but idk might be a waste just for that alone

>>23304451
You need ~4500 for 60.

>>23305201
I did think about using a short hair model but it doesn't quite fit the "older sister" vibe my model currently has
>>23305039
I'm using vroid models right now, so it's free, I just have to spend a little time tweaking the hair/body
>>23305369
Ooooh, that's a cool idea! I think I'll do it, thanks!

>>23297195
you're a ni-
black guy.

>>23304902
What viewership do you have?

I don't want to be a vtuber or streamer myself, but I was thinking about using Live2D models for a VN game I'm making. The cutscenes and stuff. I think an animated character would be more interesting to look at than a static image. I could have someone voice act it and move it around as they speak their lines.

I haven't started my free trial of Live2D Cubism yet. But before I jump in, I just came here to ask which youtube tutorials you guys found the most helpful.

>>23306695
No it's litterally worse, and more time consuming. You would triple or maybe even quadruple your budget. One you'd need all the vas to do live capture unless you're good at adr, secondly the movement is more stilted then stills. And outfit changes require entire model changes. It's just messy looks worse and is way more expensive

Hello /asp/, the retard who thought they were getting better tracking off a web app the other day here.
Turns out having a light source BEHIND YOU isn't the best for face tracking.

>>23307023
anon...

>>23307023
Anonchama...

>>23306223
~4ccv
Maybe if I announced the model with a teaser or something I might get more lol

>>23307023
this is why camera-based tracking sucks

>>23307510
w-...what's the alternative

>>23307553
iphone

>>23307510
Camera based tracking is litterally the only based tracking? What else is there? Fag to fag communication ?

>>23307630
and what does the iPhone use...

>>23307553
>solder chips together, include tiny bluetooth and gyroscope modules
>glue the chips to eyelids, above eyebrows, below mouth, etc
>strap HTC vive tracker to back of head for position tracking
>get bluetooth dongle and tie it all together with code
feel free to fund my startup now anons

>>23307645
iphones use an ifrared dot matrix projector to create a 3d image of your face that it uses to track movement. this is why an iphone can capture your face in the dark with zero problems.

>>23307553
>>23307639
TrueDepth system on iOS has a dot projector and sensors in addition to the camera.

>>23307735
>image literally uses the word camera
you were better off not replying

>>23307761
go google it before you suffocate from your own retardation

>>23307773
is it a camera, yes or no?

>>23307553
>>23307639
"Camera based" means you only have the camera.

t. masters degree in AR

>>23307653
>bluetooth
Now, I'm not an advanced /g/tard or anything (clearly), but this sounds just a tad unlikely...
>>23307735
>>23307756
there HAS to be a way that doesn't involve apple...

>>23307840
you don't understand the technical term of a "camera". cameras exist that don't rely solely on visible light reflections you absolute fucking moron. infrared is one of them.

>>23307848
>spoiler
that alone made me want to drop the shitposting and ask why?

>>23307871
>there HAS to be a way that doesn't involve apple...
there is none.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZDxrS8sNhM

>>23307871
Apple basically subsidizes the company to put in the technology for free on their phones and high end tablets. Either you grab an old used iphone or you just use webcams.

>>23307894
projecting anime girls into the real world is a noble goal

>>23307871
Yeah, it involves hardware you can't afford and likely can't access. The iPhone is the industry standard for live facial mocap, even large companies use it. There's better solutions (that you also can't afford or access) for animation, but the iPhone is your only real option.

>too proud to use a second hand iphone because MUH APPLE
>perfectly fine with using twitch or youtube to stream
these people confuse me

>>23307871
Apple was the first to make their face tracking API accessible to other programs, even if other companies have the hardware.

>>23307630
Dick head, what do you think iPhone use lol. It's a depth camera

Logo design. Is picrel truly the current meta? It makes me flinch. It's disgustingly sugary, cute and nigh-unreadable.

>>23307848
No it doesn't. Also nice degree mill Kevin, what Starbucks do you work at?

>>23307874
No shit. But that's still a camera lol

>>23308141
>is picrel truly the current meta?
yep

>>23300036
Why are you saying slurs on stream if you're trying to make it. Ngmichama...

>>23308141
>unreadable
are you ESL? You're looking mainly at female vtubers' logos and a good chunk are in Japanese, obviously they're going to be sugary and cute. The male's sticks out like a sore thumb.

>>23308141
>image with the logos of cute female vutbers
>WHY ARE THEY SO CUTE? IT'S SO SUGARY AND KAWAII, WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS?
retard-chama....

>>23307965
>>23307931
fucking kikes. At this rate steve jobs is going to be a pain in my ass long after I've died.
>>23307927
>>23307965
so it's an IR camera, but the fancy part is the dot projector, right? Do the dots have to follow the face or something (like the mocap balls), or is it just making a grid that the face moves through?
>>23307998
I'm not too proud, I just want to know ALL the info. But assuming I was, why would I have a problem with youtube or twitch?

>>23308313
assuming you do, why would you have a problem with iPhone/Apple?

>>23308313
Why do you act as if buying a second hand iPhone is some arduous task?

>>23308313
the only comparable commercially available camera is the Intel RealSense Depth camera that costs more than $300 which is the same price of a used iPhone X. the downside is that Intel doesn't make it's API available and NO ONE on the planet has any program that takes the not-available API from an Intel RealSense camera and import it into a face tracking app.

stop being a faggot and just buy a second hand iphone.

>>23308313
The hardware is nothing special, you can get similar stuff in a Windows Hello-compatible webcam. The problem is getting that face tracking data into your program in a usable form, and unless you want to get into pro-grade mocap gear, Apple is the only one with an API for your vtubing software to hook into.

>>23308366
nta but planned obsolescence and they don't let you mess with your phone really at all, both physically and doing shit like ricing

>>23306695
i think you need to understand that 99% of the time, its better to do motion graphics ala aftereffects for anything thats not live capture

the "2D image moving realistically" visual is not exclusive to live2D, live 2D is based off of basic motion graphics principles and technology except it live tracks human movement.

heres an example of motion graphics, you can do this with anime characters too and theres plenty of VNs where this is done for the sex scenes where its just a cock thrusting into a girl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rah0mtmmX-A&ab_channel=LeagueofLegends

>>23308145
It is a software engineering degree. I'm one of those 30 year olds in the thread that makes disgusting money.

>>23300036
You are fucking retarded, anon. Ahahaha

>>23308366
My first touchscreen device was an iPad, and I liked it, but it gave me a couple of hassles that I never had with android devices later.
>>23308407
$$$
>>23308486
>>23308517
I see. I guess that's getting added to the upgrade path.

>>23308241
Retard isn't a fucking slur in the first place. It's been a commonplace word for my entire life and only in the current generation is it suddenly hyper-offensive. And no I don't often say it on stream but occasionally I will go "oh man I'm retarded" or some other innocuous phrase.

>>23305191
I mean, it’s the easiest way to do it.

>>23308242
>>23308279
Not ESL, but I am female. Didn't realize the left side of the image was heavily Japanese chuubas, my bad. Still find many of the logos tooth-achingly sweet and busy. Even for English chuubas who only know weeb lingo, they seem to tack in their name in Japanese in their logo.

A lot of them just have crap contrast and a lot of little elements that get lost when shrunk. Maybe I've been doing corporate design for too long. Fuck.

this made me laugh out loud in the bathroom

>>23309089
I don't know what I'm looking at besides him being followed by her new account

>>23308729
I say it too no need to defend your usage of a bad word, we're literally on 4chan. But if you say it on stream, you deserve to stay a 2view because only lord knows the twitter sperg you'd go on trying to defend yourself afterwards.

Would you ever consider more scenes in OBS other than starting soon/game/BRB/technical difficulties/stream ending, and maybe a single Just Chatting? What would it be?
Closeup? Maybe something else that might not be normally considered but could be useful?

>>23309238
Closeup doesn't need a new scene. The only other scenes that'd be useful are things like gimmicks or scenarios like going on a date or something unrelated to your usual streams

>>23309166
low number funny!

>>23309288
Even with that viewership, Vtubing has brought this dude PLENTY of money considering the people he's worked for and the cost of his services. It's not always about the CCV.

>>23309089
I despise this guy. We used to be close friends and now all I can say is thank god we're not, whenever I look at him I just feel disgusted.

>>23309367
sure, but come the fuck on thats aspie tier ccv

>>23308907
Go with Futura font if you want to design a simple logo.

>>23309828
And yet with /asp/ie tier CCV, he's more successful than anyone here. CCV isn't everything even at higher numbers.

What makes a nice “starting soon” screen?

>>23309866
How do you know how successful he is? He's mostly just a vtweeter who does commissions every now and then. Sure it's not about the CCV, but I don't think he's as successful you're saying he is. Maybe more successful than some /here/ /asp/ies, but that's because they haven't even truly started yet.

>>23309866
hey man we got fucking computer scientist boomers here working at tesla and shit

>>23300172
probably looks like shit, post pic

>>23309903
Unironically, all it needs to say is "starting soon" to be a good starting soon screen. You can make it easy to look at or have funny little gifs on it if you want to entertain people waiting for you to stream (if any), but absolutely not needed

>>23310464
My rigger, a few artists, and some (brutally honest) friends have all praised the model's design without me asking. No I don't wanna post here.

tensions are high, i feel like this bucket has become a little cramped recently...

for people who were arguing about pricing stuff, i did get the admiral for 100€, and I'd say this is a pretty good rather unique 3D model. I did basically get an insanely good deal because i paid an starving artist who just started out for a learning experience (it was how much he'd take) and still in hindsight he believes he didn't feel ripped off. It is possible to strike a deal, and i do believe i horribly overpaid for my recent one (like 900 for a simple 2d character design), but it's money i was willing to spend anyways so i don't feel too bad about it.

Sometimes you just hit gold and get a cheap and good artist, that works reasonably fast, it's not your responsibility to set a reasonable price for their work. In my case I'm giving that artist a second job amd I'm glad to pay him more now that he's better and I'm in a financially better spot.

>>23309866
Not that anon, Being a successful or artist/rigger doesn't equal to being a successful streamer.
>but he makes dosh with vtuber related stuff.
But not as a vtuber, that's the point.

>>23295679
Kek
>>23295913
It is. It happens a lot, not just vtubing. I remember I had a character that was slightly similar to someone else's character and they went batshit insane on me.
>>23295408
I was thinking of something sewer-ish or punkish. Like a NYC rat. But that's probably been overdone.
>>23295535
Very true. I also don't want to add too much to the model that it becomes an eyesore.
>>23295829
Now THAT is based
>>23296148
Me no touch pony
>>23296194
Yeah. That's true. Maybe going with a cat ain't a bad idea either.
>>23296999
check'd and thank you

>>23311035
please don't be another cat

>>23301061
Thanks man.

>>23304938
Are you making your own model? I heard finding male models are tough.

>>23309745
How did you end up not being friends anymore?

>>23288288
This fucking whore and the faggot that made that game ruined chuubas for me.

>>23311365
how did a slap of reality taste like?

>>23311355
nta but i unfollowed him because half of the 20 tweets he makes every day is him crying about how no one engages with his tweet and thus he must have been shadowbanned by twitter.

>>23310087
LITTERALLY ME

>>23311402
Like the beginning of Mafia 3.

>>23311355
I think I mentioned it vaguely way before in /asp/ but he was a clout fiend. We had a close knit circle of friends in the beginning and we all grew at about the same pace, until a few began growing a lot faster, me included, and he was bitching at us and at every given moment would send us his posts through DM on twitter or link it on discord and be like "I posted guys go like and RT it", and shit like that. We all for the most part either cut him off or eased off contact, but he would always brag about dumb shit too. He always, without fail, brags that he "ghosted Mori Calliope" and how "he and ironmouse are friends" because they reached out to thank him for creating an asset.

He's also the type to follow someone and after they follow him back, he unfollows, and he also has confronted people who have unfollowed him before. He's said he doesn't follow back people under 5k before, but that was probably more a joke.

He's also become a known sexpest, I'm sure you guys don't follow up on him much especially a few months ago too, but a bunch of callouts popped up from a bunch of people regarding how he behaved towards them. He also had tried to chat me up, but I shut it down pretty fast when he tried it because I had a boyfriend. A lot of Singaporean indies absolutely despise him.

For the most part, we've all outgrown him platform wise and it's humorous to look back and see that he's the same pathetic, clout obsessed person he always was.

>>23312307
The fact I don't know who he is, despite being active in the VTubing scene, speaks volumes.

My oshi is playing Ace Combat 7, please go watch him
https://twitch.tv/coyote_knight

Is there an obs hotkey to horizontally flip a source

Why do some VTubers do the “if this post gets 100 likes I’ll do a model reveal!!!” trend when it’s very possible they won’t hit that goal? Like I’ve been watching this person repeatedly post in the Twitter VTuber group about how they need more likes so they can do their reveal by the end of the month.

MIC ARMS
I currently use a Rode PSA1, but I'm finding it a bit finicky and hard to use on my current setup as I keep on having it hit the back of my monitors all the time. Would a low profile arm be a better choice?

>>23315253
they see trends and think they're entitled to the numbers because the bigger chuubas do it. it's a good way to filter out those who larp as a vtuber and those who create content.

>>23315253
It's a marketing campaign. The reward if it works is a decent bit of exposure, the downside if they fail is looking cringey as fuck when they inevitably make a "I couldn't help myself I'm going to reveal earlier tehe~" after they fail but who really cares about that?

>>23312670
Are you SEA?

>>23315253
This >>23315369 but it's always cringey because the only one that benefits is the one running the campaign. Viewers wont say anything because they don't want to offend their vtuber or get banned by an unhinged vtuber. No vtuber cancels their debut or re-debut or reveal because they didn't meet a goal. If only they did.

>>23312307
A shame, he seems to have decent skill

>windowshopping for premade models
>found a pretty boy aesthetic I like
>turns out it's a girl wearing baggy clothes
I'm so fucking close to jumping to the babi bandwagon

>>23317591
do it faggot
become cute
liiiike uuuuussssssssssss
>insert cute asp babi here.jpg

>>23317591
if you had trouble telling, will the audience notice?

>accidental babi.jpg

>>23317837
>I swear officer, I didn't I was a little girl!

>>23317721
>>23317837
here's the model in question
https://booth.pm/en/items/2040716

>>23318790
Never show the model from the waist down and you might get away with it.

>>23317591
90% of the pretty boys are "draw a girl and say it is a boy" anyway.

>>23294900
lmao i remember being bummed about possibly being called a kagura mea ripoff due to a super oversized coat. After seeing pic related I realized nobody truly gives a fuck about resemblances.

is it more preferable for the streamer to read out the entirety of the chat message they are responding to? i can understand having to do this if you have a big chat and need to single something out or if its a dono but it kinda weirds me out if the chat is slow and the message is sitting right there plain as day and the streamer still reads the whole thing out loud

At what point do you just say “fuck it, I’m buying my fonts for my chuuba activities”?
Because I’m really close to just doing that.
I can afford it on my salary

>>23319223
buying fonts? who has that kind of money?
I can't talk, I'm scouting out stock photos right now.

what fonts are you looking at?

>>23319392
AWAY, AWAY

>>23293291
how the fuck would you even greet someone unless they speak or at least follow.

current viewer count is far from reliably accurate

>>23319392

I swear to god if that faggot that shit on my oishi mayshimyu last time she /here/ streamed is responsible for her taking down her VODs and not streaming I'll kill you!

>>23319516
>cat is yellow
Pottery

>>23319777
>yellow
>gold
>seldom called orange as I meant to be
pic related is yellow, also checked.

>>23319911
that is green.

I found a cute crab gif for the next time someone decides to get all crabby. Ganbare, /asp/.

>>23312307
Yet you post about him here seething about him still??
Seems like he lives rent free in your head, sure he seems like cringe but posting his low numbers to make fun of him is just a low blow honestly, you should just let him die in irrelevancy this drama with vtubers is fucking cringe.

>>23319465
I'm looking for spacey, futuristic fonts that could work for a HUD-like design for starting/ending/brb/etc. screens and for holographic-style displays as well. Pixel and segment display fonts seem to be the way to go, but I'm also feeling possibly something sleek/angular/slightly condensed but still readable at small sizes. I'd probably also want a second typeface for display purposes or headings.
...That's pretty specific I suppose, but I have been looking around at least on Font Squirrel first to see what's there for free (I'm not 100% for DaFont these days for some reason...)

>>23321756
nta but I think some anons are getting conflated here.

>>23319482
Viewer count, and that's kind of what I meant by mentioning regulars. I have a number of people who come and stay for most, if not the entire stream. Sometimes they talk, sometimes they don't. I have a policy of just not putting them on the spot so if they're busy and/or just having a bad day, they can just lurk and be comfy.
It's worked out for me so far, as mentioned those very people tend to be my most loyal followers, even if that means chat is slow at times.

>>23321690
MONEY
MONEY
MONEY
AAAAAHHHH

Speaking of iPhones, is there a specific model where the face tracking got good? Eg when buying a used iPhone, is there a rule of thumb like "don't buy an model older than (model)"?

Hi /asp/friends! I'm gonna do a chill drawing stream today! I'll be drawing some cute mascot-like characters.

My power is a bit weird today so please forgive me if it goes out mid-stream!

https://www.twitch.tv/Lullabaa

>>23321939
Anything after the X works, though it gets hotter when using it the older you go

>>23321939
Bare minimum XR
Maybe try for an 11.

>>23321992
kinky

>>23321921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKyIbBvCwdg

thoughts on ant hime???
She seems based says the n word and does idubbz old, content cop content love this vtuber she's the only one who isn't cringe and plays by the rules. Not to mention her voice is the only cute one and doesn't sound like a 30 yr old roasties playing an anime girl.
Would it be fair to say she's /ourgirl/ bros?
https://youtu.be/xijwLuSFYjY

>>23321939
I think it was introduced on the X, so that or newer.

>>23317591
I mean, you're shelling out quite a bit for it anyways, may as well ask the modeler to add pants for another 50 bucks.

>>23321939
>>23322066
I think 11+ is the best choice for safety.

>>23318790
Just buy it and transfer all of it to a male model. It's not that hard dude.

>>23322176
/wvt/

>>23321977
Loved the erotic ponies hahaha, I definitely jerked off to them and your stream. But yes definitely look into the dev team you have potential

>>23321867
yep, 2 fonts, one for display and one for "actual" longer text strings. It doesn't sound like you're being too picky. I just wouldn't go over 3 fonts altogether for a brand set.
There's also Google Fonts which is also OFL, but it doesn't look like they have any way onsite to search. They still have one or two of the display types you're looking for, at least.

>>23319223
>buying fonts.
Anon, did you search for the fonts in vk.com first?

>>23311264
I use a vroid model, idk if that counts as making it myself? I'm thinking of switching to live2D though (I'd be drawing/rigging it myself)

Hello all, car anon here! I'm doing a violin practice stream. I'll be practicing the Wind Waker Theme song. Come by and let your ears bleed! https://youtu.be/Hg46rcM498I

>>23326162
just letting you know it's nuts how you're doing what you're doing.

>>23322176
>She does drama content but because she says nigger it's ok and funny

>>23326412
>>23326162
Thanks, I appreciate it.
Stream is back up... shitty internet.

>>23327061
https://youtu.be/7SWPP4WTLaM

>>23327085
my ears and eyes are bleeding. please chose only one hole at a time to rape.

>>23322176
>First 5 minutes is a 3d whore
Not a vtuber

>>23327085
it's like listing to Squidward try to play the clarinet lol

>shilling dramatuber
>literally scum of earth
Why

>>23321977
Thank you to anyone who dropped by!! I had a fun time and we drew some cute characters!

>>23327085
I can't handle the violin noises but i respect your efforts. Godspeed car anon.

>>23327085
People keep recommending me "haha what if you just play guitar on stream wouldn't that be fun" and they dont know how terrible a guitar can really sound, i will not subject anyone but myself (and my teacher) to this torture.

But props for being brave, to put it out anyways. It's good enough for a joke stream, but music practice probably isn't the best content for viewer retention.

>>23328837
Does he live out of his car or something. It sounds good like mic quality wise. But the playing... it's so bad. And the model is even worse.

>>23329397
He does. He's a nut. Playing IS bad but model is SOVL.

>>23329324
It could be bearable if he started with something easy like do re mi from the sound of music instead of a windwaker song.

>>23327085
car anon please, I beg of you to change your model

>>23318790
>https://booth.pm/en/items/2040716
>All those copyright and commercial restrictions.
Artist is a faggot.

Fuck these guy's it's nice. The design is based anyhow. The model is SOVL.

>>23329733
Yeah since I switched from playing persona / touhou songs badly to pentatonic free-form practice it sounds a lot better.

Car anon is my oshi.

>>23329853
>i don't want people making money off of my assets
Seems reasonable to me.

>>23329895
The SOVL cope is so annoying. There's a point where it's just a dogshit MS Paint drawing and just a lack of skill, not "soul".

>>23329895
A post of this low quality make me miss yellow cat's antics. At least he was entertaining.

>>23329853
entitled faggots like you will never make it. just give up.

>>23321756
I wasn't the one who posted the numbers, just made me nostalgic in a negative way.

The twitter app won't doxx you if you have multiple accounts on one instance of the app right?
There's no way in hell (aside from user error), is there?

>>23333495
at worst is if you accidentally log in with your phone and allow twitter access to your contacts but that falls under user errors too. can't think of any time when doxx has happened other than maybe a local advertisement due to region based marketing campaigns.

>>23327085
Car anon here. Thanks for coming to my stream and for the feedback. Uhh the internet is utter crap, so the stream just prematurely went down. I'll keep practicing the Wind Waker theme but I think I'll stick with simpler pieces next time... it's been decades since I last touched a violin, so I'm pretty rusty. I will also be looking for another model in the near future. I think it's time for a change lol.

thoughts on callout posts that smaller vtubers do on twitter?
i'm thinking those are typically useless since it kinda discourages people from actually checking you out save for the occasional twitter follow, it seems better to keep up the kayfabe and be positive in your feed

>>23334461
You're my favorite /asp/ie... caranon...

>>23334640
It's a pleasure

>>23334545
I don't understand the purpose of them, unless it involves a ton of people falling victim to this one person/company/etc. or if it is a serious matter that you can't come to terms with the other party in private.

>>23334545
>it seems better to keep up the kayfabe
Next to no one relevant does kayfabe, even people who were small and became. Talk about whatever you want, it's your social media. Obviously if you spam it with politics and drama it'll reflect poorly on you, but it's really as easy as just NOT doing that