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23236435 No.23236435 [Reply] [Original]

What if v-tube streamers found the courage to play roguelikes ?
This could happen if you get the courage to ask your Oshi if he/she/they likes rogue. With this simple question you could change the world.

Ask the roguelike question challenge.

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Anon are you having a stroke typing this?

>> No.23236538

>>23236435
Tenma Maemi plays Roguelikes and Roguelites.
https://www.youtube.com/c/TenmaMaemi

>> No.23236872

>>23236538
Roguecute !

>> No.23238519

I think Rift Wizard would be perfect for roguelike v-tubers. That would be fun to watch.

>> No.23238573

Rogue LIKE
Rogue LOVE

>> No.23238769

Rogue LIKE
Rogue LOVE

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What if v-tube runners got the courage to play roguelikes?
This can happen if you have the courage to ask your Oshi if he / she likes rogue. With this simple question you could change the world.

Ask the challenge of the roguelike question.

>> No.23239537

I'm at work, I have a cup of coffee in my hands and I am going to play a roguelike.

>> No.23240985

>>23236435
All vtubing is roguelike. They keep going until they yab, then reincarnate and try again.

>> No.23241651

>>23240985
This is why they should play roguelikes ! In death we find love ! The love of rogue !

>> No.23244434

There would be less drama and meaness with roguelikes. This board is filled with negativity.

>> No.23245118

>>23244434
Yes. If there were roguelike threads on this board, it would be positive and never devolve into shit-flinging about what qualifies as a "true" roguelike.

>> No.23245350

>>23245118
It didn't really get that bad in the last thread. Please stop catastrophizing.

>> No.23245772

>>23245118
That's because people do not know and do not love. How do we remedee that ? By making roguelike popular. By making v-tube all about love. When roguelike v-tubers spread knowing and loving, the name will be rectified and we will like rogue.

>> No.23246332

>>23236435
>What if v-tube streamers found the courage to play roguelikes ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdBB9soxOoc

>> No.23247944

>>23246332
Vtubers may not know what roguelikes are, but they sure understand what gacha is

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>>23236435

>> No.23250023

My 2 view oshi plays a roguelike once every 6 months lol

>> No.23250147

>>23250023
Your 2 views roguelike oshi deserve to be a 3 views oshi and more ! You should congratulate your oshi for braving the roguelike v-tubing world !

>> No.23250277

I like this schizo. He's very cute.

>> No.23250602

veibae played nothing but isaac for like 2 months

>> No.23250612

>>23236435
Millie played a quite a bit of Hades

>> No.23254451

Too good a thread to die

>> No.23254922

>>23254451
Thank you for promoting roguelike v-tubing community fandom.

>> No.23254950

>>23254922
I only did what anyone would have done

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>>23236435
I wish Pekora would bother playing TBOI: repentance... Imagine all the kino stuff this would eventually lead to after several hundreds of hours spent on it...

>> No.23255467

>>23255280
(Me) I also am currently play Dead Cells on Smartphone to pass some time, but I'm sure lots of them would love to play that game(if he ever was translated to Japanese that is, I didn't pay much attention to that).

>> No.23256103

Didnt every single holos played Vampire Survivor recently?

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https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRsrLSCxphseVhXWJ66c1e3EsAGmY5Za3
I'm going to watch this.

>> No.23258307

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMyg4b6y9aE
Is this a roguelike?

>> No.23258518

>>23258307
No, but I can feel the love. It's very cute.

>> No.23261494

>>23236435
But I don't like roguelikes. I like something even worse and even more unplayable by women - Real Time Strategy games.

>> No.23261808

>>23256103
VS has Roguelites mechanics but it's not a Roguelike

I'd like to see an entry-game like Tangledeep, not sure if most viewers would be interested in the ASCII ones though

>> No.23261830

>>23236435
Roguelikes require a severe form of autism, similar to playing runescape

>> No.23261900

>>23236435
Depends if you mean roguelikes, (nethack, DCSS, Angband variants, ToME, Qud, etc.), or the procgen fad garbage that normalfags call roguelikes or "roguelites" (Isaac, Rogue Legacy, Slay the Spire, etc.).

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>>23236435
I know a chuuba that likes roguelikes but /vt/ hates her

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>>23261900
Nobody will ever acknowledge your useless definition. The staple of a roguelike is TBoI:R, and theres nothing you can do about it.

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>>23256479
jfc I haven't played Elona since /jp/ got me into it... over 10 years ago? Absolutely shocked games like that and Minecraft still have so many players.

>> No.23262512

>>23262236
I don't want normalfags to use the actual definition, I want them to continue outing themselves as normalfags that have never played a roguelike so than I can ignore their opinions and bask in my superiority.

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>>23256479
Damn I like Elona but can't into nip

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Fuck off you stupid niggers. This is what rogue(likes) look like. No zoomer vtuber is touching these even with a ten foot pole.

>> No.23263596

>>23262097
>roguelikes
Come on. I have no issue with Nina and I don't mind roguelites either, but calling Nina's choice of games rogueLIKES are just incorrect.

>> No.23263597

If I was a vtuber, then I'd stream whenever I play DCSS, which is about once a week.

>> No.23263658

>>23263597
Help me out here anon. I’m a vtuber and I love DCSS but I’ve never won it before. Been playing very casually for years and years. What would make for an interesting DCSS stream?

>> No.23263892

>>23263658
NTA but I used to be a fairly competitive DCSS player, I've had my name mentioned on the official tournament results announcement. It would be really frustrating to watch someone who hasn't won before, probably the best way to start would be grinding out a MiBe win (on or off stream) so that you have the basics down and aren't cripplingly hobbled by a lack of skill.

>> No.23264150

>>23263658
Unironically get backseated. I know one 2view who got backseated to victory and got better than me in the game because of the sheer number of games they played.

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>>23263597
Become a roguelike v-tuber, the roguelike v-tubing fandom demands it. Here, I even made a model for you.

>> No.23264328

>>23263658
My only tip is to avoid modern DCSS. Use an older version or a fork like kimchicrawl.

>> No.23264396

>>23236435
I usually play Risk of Rain 2 and Binding of Isaac when I can't think of anything else to play

>> No.23264497

>>23264328
Anon I have a lot of sympathy for what you're saying but crawl players as a whole follow the current version. Most of the criticism is justified, and the devs are faggots, but the game is so good that they cannot ruin it, or even change it at a fundamental level. It will never conform to their faggot vision. Just play trunk like everyone else while antiing the devs at every opportunity to disprove their claims that all the criticism comes from people who never even play.

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>>23261494

>> No.23264602

>>23236435
I like roguelikes, but I can't think of any I'd enjoy watching someone else play on stream.

>> No.23264675

>>23263892
That’s honestly exactly what I had planned to do before I stream it which is reassuring.
>>23264150
Also something I’m open to. Backseating seems like some of the easiest interaction to foster and I have a lot of patience for it.
>>23264328
>>23264497
I’ll play both.

>> No.23264682

>>23264535
>Plays it a few times and never again

>> No.23264778

>>23264675
Backseating is one of the secret ways to encourage viewer participation. You'd be doing your chat interaction reps at the same time.

>> No.23264830

>>23264778
Don’t I know it. I figured that out very quickly, and the people likely to be eager to backseat are happy to have someone willing to listen. Plus I just genuinely don’t mind listening; I always learn something.

>> No.23264832

>>23264675
Don't hesitate to post your stream in the roguelike v-tubing promotion thread if you feel like it. The world needs to see that roguelike v-tubing fans exist and are valid. Thanks you in advance for your great contribution to LOVE !

>> No.23264864

>>23264832
Rogue LIKE
Rogue LOVE

>> No.23265139

Are there any vtubers that play DCSS

>> No.23265260

>>23265139
Corpse_ch and paperbag used to. I can shill you guys a bunch but they're not actively playing them right now so I don't see the point. There's this dude named maddycaddy played Catacysm but he's a faggot who preferred playing his dumb eroge shit. I know you're /here/ you fucker. Get back to Catacysm nobody cares about muv luv.

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I'm a 2view who plays a lot of roguelikes and roguelites and likes being bullied by chat for making pot plays. Maybe I'll shill here next time I'm live.

>> No.23265490

>>23265260
CDDA might actually be a better streaming game because it's essentially a sandbox. The only problem is how much time you spend navigating menus. Would also file Unreal World under this category. Both of these also have the problem of instakilling noobs a lot.

>> No.23265556

Does anybody stream Dwarf Fortress adventurer mode? I’m learning how to play it because I’ve always found stories from the game interesting and feel like if I learn to play the game competently enough that it could make for a fun stream.

>> No.23268255

>>23236435
sauce

>> No.23268291

>>23265556
Some very helpful roguelike v-tubing fan posted this >>23258016 there are other guys, but they're not part of the roguelike v-tubing community.

>> No.23268327

>>23268255
idk, ask arlegee, but you'll only get unhelpful and very rude shitposting

>> No.23268694

>>23236435
Roguelikes aren't that fun to watch. The only exception I can recall is when some dude used Cataclysm as a backdrop for storytelling, which required some creative interpretation of in-game decisions.

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>>23268694
Actually roguelikes are uniquely suited for streams, the fault lies on the total lack of entertainment skills, charisma, or community. Their turn-based nature, sticky and sometime funny situations, and often complex systems, wether they are experienced or not (they can be guided, or be the guide), and it's chill nature allows greater engagement with it's viewers to discuss the gameplay, or anything you wish to discuss.

Before the fulgurant rise of v-tubing, I had great experiences interacting with roguelikes twitch streamers, even with extremelly low view counts. I wish to reproduce it with roguelikes, as it is my absolute belief that both the roguelike community and the v-tubing community can benefit greatly. It's a marriage made in Heaven, it is DIVINE MANDATE OF LOVE AS IT WAS REVEALED TO ME.

I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ANY OPPOSITION TO ROGUELIKE V-TUBING ON SPURIOUS ARGUMENTS AND FALSEHOOD.

It is much better than endless fps or other fast paced shitty games, whose entertainment value is only in the wish wash boom boom vizzzz !!! Haha I win !!! Haha I lose !!! Roguelike is meaningful ! Roguelike is deep !!! Roguelike allows people to connect !

We want people to meet with each other ! Talk with each other ! Know each other ! So that can LOVE can reach everyone of us !

>> No.23269490

>>23269401
This. I watched a vtuber using DCSS as zatsu-fuel and had a cytube to jam along with. I kinda missed those streams but he finished the game 3 times already. Not full ZOT but good enough.

>> No.23269928

>>23269490
Yes, yes, yes. The only aspect roguelike might fail is by it's lack of multiplayer, beside those antiquated dungeon crawler MMOs I forgot the name of, but it's my firm belief that we will see the day come, and it's really just a lack of imagination, you could for example do simultaneous dungeon sprint, or play in turn by using roguelikes present on a internet platform such as DCSS. Once people are awaken, rogueliking and v-tubing will reach new height ! The future will prove me right, because I have seen in.

>> No.23270029

>>23269928
What is your favorite method of divination, roguelover?

>> No.23270207

>>23270029
Open your eyes and you will see. Love and you will be taught.

>> No.23270555

>>23270207
I do a fair amount of both of those things these days. Thanks for writing so many good posts.

>> No.23274337

>>23236435
no

>> No.23278479

I'm happy this thread survived the night

>> No.23278777

Roguelike schizo is my fav schizo on this godforsaken board

>> No.23279421
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if you can get me a specific nightly build of cataclysm dda C, (2015-2016?) before they added unneeded garbage that made the vehicle mechanics unbearable and before the devs nerfed guns into the ground to buff their stupid stealth archer playthroughs then maybe I'll start doing CDDA again but no way in hell am I playing that in its modern ABSOLUTE state.

>> No.23280707

>>23279421
Clone the git repository, roll back to the commit before the changes, and build the game yourself, you lazy wanker.

>> No.23280891

>>23280707
if I wanted to build games I wouldn't be vtubing

>> No.23281178

>>23280891
A vtuber with zero technical knowhow is a shit vtuber. Clone repo, git reset hard commit number, make. Wow, so hard.

>> No.23281198

>>23281178
im an svn ONLY vtuber

>> No.23281262

>>23281198
Based fuck git

>> No.23281336

This thread has a dangerously high concentration of pimps

>> No.23281342

>>23281262
yeah i legitimately dont know how to use git past pulling loose code off of it because i've been so violently against git practices for like a decade

>> No.23281399

Roguelike schizo is my oshi.

>> No.23281918

>>23281198
>>23281262
>>23281342
NGMI

>> No.23283207

I've seen a few play nu dcss, but has anyone played an actual chad game like nethack or IVAN?

>> No.23283427

Dumb damage
Permanent polaroid invincibility

>> No.23284573

>>23236435
Temma plays the entire Loop Hero once, does that count?
https://www youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4Rgs8KEQtioZJkUqV8f7aVdupePRZBj5

>> No.23284627

>>23284573
inb4 the schizo goes "le not real roguelike hurrrr herp derp"

>> No.23284629

i know a rouge-souls 2view but she's been having health issues for a while, so she can't pull 8hour streams like she used to do. i wish I could help. at least she is back to having her art reps.

>> No.23284700

don’t mind me I’m just here to support my roguelike vtuber schizo anon. Love the thread man keep it up

>> No.23284737

>>23284629
You should post her, roguelike v-tubers deserve to be known as examplars to be followed and supported. I wish her good health, she should rest well and take good care of herself.

>> No.23286838

>>23284737
NTA but there's a souls/rogue 2view that posts in /asp/ occasionally. She's got a lot of dead air but really loves the genre.

t. me

>> No.23286874

I will NOT watch your chubba unless they have a confirmed ascension in Nethack.

>> No.23286912

>>23286874
See you in 20 years

>> No.23287413

>>23286874
You will watch the roguelike v-tuber and you will like it. I will come to your house and force you to watch all the roguelike v-tubers and participate in their chat at the same time.

>> No.23287848

Everyone and their mother is streaming Vampire Survivors, you'll have to be satisfied with that.

>> No.23288031

>>23236435
OP please give image sauce

>> No.23288704

>>23288031
I said it already, idk, I only care about roguelike v-tubers. Please talk about roguelike v-tubers.

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>>23288704

>> No.23291104

Actual roguelikes are one of the hardest kind of game to stream. Playing them requires an absurd amount of knowledge and the ability to stop and think your next moves. This goes against the spirit of streaming, this is why very few streamers manage to succeed at keeping viewers. If you check any roguelike stream with higher than average viewership, you find that most of them only plays one game and knows it by heart. Even the rare popular streamers who have streamed roguelikes (for example joel from vinesauce) knows the games they play relatively well and still get low viewership compared to their normal streams.

>> No.23292052

>>23284627
You're misreading the room. The roguelover is the person least likely to get in that kind of fruitless argument

>> No.23292547

>>23238519
I want to play this game but I am afraid to be dissapointed after they hype.

>> No.23295197

>>23292547
Just give it a try. Is being disappointed that scary ?

>> No.23298477

It's a roguelite, but Temma's Loop Hero streams were my favorite thing he ever did

>> No.23298701

>>23295197
It is if you pay for games and you already have a backlog.

>> No.23299575

>>23298701
You know that you don't have to buy things to have them.

>> No.23302749

>>23262236
BASED

>> No.23303498

>>23247944
roguelike at it's core is a gacha

>> No.23305857

>>23236435
Bump

>> No.23308985

>>23284627
There is nothing wrong with roguelites but they are not roguelikes. They still have room to be in this thread. I have no idea why are you so opposed to using the correct definition.

>> No.23309506

>>23308985
They call roguelites roguelikes because they think it gives them hardcore gamer cred. If they were fucked in the ass with a procedurally generated cock they'd wax poetic about how hard of a roguelike that is.

>> No.23309548

>>23309506
Why are you guys always posting about taking cocks up the ass?

>> No.23311483

I wish Hanayori Girls Dorm could come back as a roguelike doujin circle girls dorm.

>> No.23311494

>>23309548
Because I’m gay

>> No.23313447

>>23236435
There's nothing better than a roguelike thread to remind you how many normalfags come to this board

>> No.23313480

should a general be called /rogue/ or /@/? I'm unsure how to go to include roguelikes and roguelites because most chuubas just play roguelites. Maybe wait til someone plays roguelikes again?

>> No.23313682

>>23313447
How?

>> No.23313911

>>23313480
We're not going to simply wait. We're going to make it happen, by raising the collective counciousness on the existence of roguelike v-tubing.

>> No.23314076

>>23313911
Give me 3 examples of roguelikes tow showcase and 4 popular roguelites.

>> No.23314631

>>23314076
The most streamlined and accessible is likely DCSS. Then you could add open world ones like CDDA and Elona, which both are in Japanese. As for roguelites, I guess Noita, Hades, Darkest Dungeon, Vampire Survivors.

>> No.23315105

>>23314631
Dozo. I added dwarf fortress to hook up potential DF viewers and the Inscryption mod for card game autists. Second posts should have links to streams and VODs.

/@/ - Rogue

This is a thread to discuss vtubers playing roguelikes and roguelites

>What is a roguelike
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php/Berlin_Interpretation
Examples include Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, Dwarf Fortress Adventure Mode, Nethack, Elona, Angband, Brogue, Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup, etc

>What is a roguelite
Everything else such as Hades, Risk of Rain, Darkest Dungeon, Faster than Light, Noita, One Step From Eden, and Vampire Survivors, Inscryption Jaycee's Mod etc.

>> No.23315276

>>23314631
Where are you getting CDDA being Japanese from? I don't know much about the original developer but the open-source devs are definitely EN.

>> No.23315576

>>23315276
It has a japanese translation and a few japanese mods (most are obsolete as far as I can tell). CDDA is translate in quite a few other languages, which you can check here https://translations.launchpad.net/cdda . Not sure if the translations are supported on CBN.

>> No.23315772

>>23262236
I'm still 30-40 years from death, so you can keep struggling for a few decades until this magical day when I stop telling you this comes. And it will never go out of style because someone will always ask what Rogue is, and realize the game is not like Rogue.

>> No.23315880

>>23315772
We need you alive. Keep the fire burning.

>> No.23317376

>>23291104
Roguelikes are aren't hard to stream. They're turn based so you have plenty of time to think, talk, explain your thought process, interact with chat, etc. The way the games are structured can even be used as a way to milk out interaction by wargaming your next move with chat. The issue with roguelikes is much more simple than that: nobody fucking plays them or is familiar with them, so almost nobody will understand what is going on (this is the kind of game where if you havent played it, you wont understand shit) or be able to participate. Also many of them have boring repetitive ass segments (sokoban in nethack, grinding in angband, etc). This is why when you do see a roguelike its DCSS I guess, its the most well known one and doesn't have much dead time in comparison. Imagine some dude streaming nethack but then you have an hour of shoplifting and price iding followed by sokoban.

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