/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Which /asp/ie should I groom?

>>23195551
me

Which /asp/ie would you?

>>23195551
what's the end goal of streamer grooming?

>>23195656
Who

would it be bad etiquette to get your model rigged by a cheap rigger and then later on get the same model re-rigged by a more expensive but higher quality rigger? haven't heard of anyone doing that but i would like to, i can commission and afford the model artist that i want right now but can't afford the rigger i want

>>23196642
Nah, rigging updates are common.
If you feel bad about it wait for a new outfit or extra toggles or something.

>>23196336
(You)

>>23196723
ahh thank you that's a great idea!

>>23196642
Getting rigging updates from a different rigger is usually against TOS for top tier riggers/groups.

>>23196642
It's been done before, dont worry about it.

>>23196816
This, I know I saw a clause in Iron Vertex that you couldn't get rigging from them if you had rigging previously. I think they had a grace period of just under a year before they'd accept to re-rig you?

I want to have a rotating globe type thing as part of a bg, best software to do this? Would mocking it up in blender work?

Looking for feedback on the basics of my plan to start vtubing. I have zero experience with streaming, FYI. My goals are to be entertaining while having a fun and challenging hobby. Ideally I'd feel like I was making progress as I went, and if I eventually made a little pocket money, that wouldn't be bad either (though realistically, I'm going to sink in WAY more money than I get out of it).

Current phase:
- Commission a PNG avatar with a couple expressions to work with (will probably take another month with my commission in the waitlist)
- Also in the process of buying a much better computer for streaming/gaming/video editing.
- Learning about OBS and the technical aspects of streaming in general. (I've worked with OBS a little at work and I do video editing as part of my job, but streaming is far more technical with OBS than anything I've done before.)
- Doing singing lessons and vocal training.

Next phase:
- Start streaming, focus on developing personal style, niche, social media, more graphics, etc.
- Start commissioning Live2D model + rigging ($2500 budget in mind so far)
- Stay in this phase for 3-6 months (likely by necessity, the waitlists for the designers/riggers I'd want are long)

Assuming that I'm still having a good time and I'm happy with whatever kind of viewership I've developed, then I would debut. Alternatively, if I'm finding that I'm spinning my wheels, not having fun, or simply not developing any kind of viewership at all, than I'll cut my losses with the 2D model and end things prior to debut.

There are a million more little details involved, just wanted to see if the framework for my plans looks relatively sound. What do you guys think?

>>23197512
learning OBS takes an hour. don't mess with settings. default will be better for 99.99% of chuubas unless there is a very specific thing you're looking for. start doing your reps now even without a png.

>>23196937
>>23196816
Even if you can afford it, dont get Iron vertex. They've increased their prices are mostly cater to companies now. Also they charge insane prices if you ever want to get new outfits too. They've pretty much setup their system to benefit themselves and their top customers while leaving everyone else at the bottom.

Just find someone quality elsewhere.

>>23197512
dont act like some underaged zoomertard and start spending money on le newest trend without knowing if you even want to stream
just draw your own shitty (and soulful) .png like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-gLnadhFEA and practice streaming/seeing if you enjoy it first

>>23196816
>>23196937
I've looked at dozens of other riggers and IV and one other group were the only people I've heard this from, so it doesn't really apply to the average aspie, or even the average chuuba

>>23197614
wrong, depending on the game you will need to adjust the bitrate, resolution, and FPS or else its going to be blurry shit. first time i streamed apex it looked like 144p while on default settings

>>23195771
private entertainment

>>23198265
>wrong, depending on the game you will need to adjust the bitrate, resolution, and FPS or else its going to be blurry shit
bitrate - 6000 for action, 4500 for non action
resolution - keep it at 720p don't change it
FPS - keep it at 60fps don't change it
don't be an idiot.

my dream is to be in a chuuba group of friends and play online games together. going on an adventure on minecraft sounds like so much fun..
and having our own server that grows together. I have a really hard time making friends with other vtubers, and everyone says collabing is bad if you're small anyway. I will keep fantasizing about it for now.

>>23194074
So what's the deal ? Should I splurge on a nice model and then get a cheap rigger? Or do I get a rigger model creator combo? I'm thinking the former.

>>23198745
Eh, anon you can make friends if you want, and you don't need to collab to play together. Just saying.

>>23198745
I literally did this. I believe in you fren

>>23194074
Heya guys, it's the PhD guy planning on Vtubing. I want to thank everyone once again in the previous thread for coming up with some designs. I've started brainstorming and contacting artists to help me. As of now though I need to think of a character name, if I do go with the shota I was thinking to go with the name Proffesor Hakase, or is that too tongue and cheek?

>>23198914
a good model art can give you a small boost of eyes but ultimately whichever helps you get started sooner is the best.

>>23198448
936p60 - 6500, never change it ever

Who doesn't have at least 10 Mbps down in 2021?

>>23199056
>Hakase
can you aspies stop trying to pick japanese names? no one will be able to find you because searching for hakase is already dominated by the character hakase from nichijou anyway.

after a month of internet and power cuts, I decided I will start vtubing by making prerecorded videos. What's a good, free, editing program?

>>23199111
>he fell for the reddit twitch "tips" meme numbers
oh no.
>spoiler
oh no.

>>23199111
fuck you
>>23199201
davinci

>>23199201
davinci resolve.

>>23199154
The idea was to be called like professor professor as a joke but you're right. It might not be a good idea. I was also thinking some thing very posh and British similar to Attenborough, maybe like Woodbrook or Berswick.

>>23199056
Non JP names are easier for audiences to remember. I don't recommend using a JP name if you're worried about growth.

>>23199224
>>23199277
thanks!!!, now to spend a month trying to learn how to use it

Aspies, if you had about 10k usd right now to kickstart your own vtubing career, how would you go about it, from zero?

>>23199685
10k worth of skeb comms to spread the internet with the raunchiest porn of my vtuber. Best marketing campaign money can buy.

>>23199475
I personally like olive video editor, but I have never used anything else aside from premiere pro (on which I was taught), so I don't know if it is actually all that great. It's very familiar to me as a former premiere pro user though.

>>23199685
buy a proper webcam
buy a capture card
maybe get a second pc
get a cheap model initially so as to not fall in love fruitlessly
live off the other 8k

>>23199685
I would spend the 10k on completely unrelated worthwhile stuff
and pour my own passion/talent and soul into drawing my own model
I guess I would also buy a cheap web camera or something so I dont need to use a vr headset to track my face

>>23199783
I wish i knew what video editor Pan uses, his editing style has to be my favorite from youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiINvLnagCg&list=PLUMM_yDoPS2zwSPPUc42MYEMTxTW0o-It&index=11

>>23199685
10k? I'd live off of that for at least half a year and be able to do content creation full-time. I'd be marketing myself more often, streaming more often and producing a lot more scripted and edited content.

>>23199685
Hire a manager.

>>23199685
Zero zero?
A pc with enough heft to stream and play games, commission a medium-tier artist and rigger, and as other anons said, put the bulk of it to surviving.
Most of the struggle with the vtubing career is it can't be a "career" without the time investment, and you can't do the time investment if you're working to keep a roof over your head.
Luckily my job is wfh and hands-off enough that I can do editing and twitter, but a lot of people aren't so lucky.

>>23199056
By the way, linguistics, do you speak one language and just know the theory or do you actually speak multiple languages?
No, Professor Hakase is terrible. You could deform it like a shota biting his tongue.

>>23200057
https://pan-pizza.tumblr.com/post/148324050525
most recent info.

>>23199685
I'd say PC upgrades but given what i mostly play my current one is fine, so a model from Marbuccino and a webcam that isn't jerryrigged, spend the rest on a bunch of art

>>23199313
I remember my whole class calling our chemistry teacher Mr Kemmie since his real name was hard to pronounce. Since you do linguistics n stuff, maybe something like Professor Lingo would work.

>>23200530
thanks a lot! i forgot he had a Tumblr, i will save to get it.

>>23199736
This but only 5k spent on porn, 3k on audio equipment and room treatment, 1k on an upgrade to my desk & chair

The final 1k on gacha for a YT video "I SPENT $1000 ON THIS GAME" with commissioned art of my avatar crying

All that while still just being a talking png.

>>23201189
Try olive out for a bit. It's pretty similar, if a lot clunkier.

>>23201213
thanks, i will! actually looks a lot like sony vegas, which is the only editing program I am familiar with

>>23199783
I also use Olive. It's good for simple shit, which is most of what I do. I imagine the creator is pulling a YandereDev and just never finishing it, but I hope to be wrong.

>>23201304
I don't care really. I also mainly use it just to cut shit up, nothing too crazy. Maybe one day when I'm in the money and I have a pc that is optimized for it, I'll pirate the Adobe suite just to see what features I'm really missing.

>>23201296
I had only used vegas before I started davinci resolve 17 and it was really easy

/asp/ies who have been streaming for several months. what would you tell yourself with the experience you have now?

>>23199685
It's an investment to get a return, right?
I would hire a female actor to talk to the audience while I stream video games.

>>23199685
I'l do exactly what I'm doing right now and use the money to pay for my college degree kek
I want to get into Nijisanji, doesn't really matter how much production value my content has, it just has to be better than everyone else's, and have the numbers to prove it

>>23199685
I would probably invest on a gpu and some speaking classes to improve my english and speaking in general. The rest would be used on paying bills, peace of mind is important.

>>23199685
pay off my car

Reupping from last thread
http://poal.me/sovq1o

>>23199056
>>23199154
hakase means doctor\professor

>>23201834
set a proper and clear goal for myself (depending on the game.) so I can stay on path on stream to make it easier for editing the stream for a digestible video. in the past and little bit recently I would ramble about random things which is fine for entertainment but if I ramble on about random stuff too much it takes away from the gameplay and ends up making the editing of the videos really hard. this is more of a personal thing though since personally I want a video thats more on the "good video with a timeline" and less of "Funny moments" type of thing

>>23199685
i'd upgrade my pc and internet, the rest will go to myself lmfao

stream apex

>>23199685
nice desk and nice chair, good pc to stream, 2 monitors one thats shit other thats decent quality, good microphone, cheap but decent headphones, good drawing tablet, drawing program, whatever webcam I need, rest saved for future use.

Starting in 10 minutes:
https://twitch.tv/azu2yn

>>23204223
>males outnumbering females 3:1
welp, it's TP time

Babis run this fucking thread!

>>23206041
Welp, starting NOW

I'm done with my art stream for today, i made this new schedule because i realized the old one has nothing to do with RPG / fantasy design. I feel like this is a lot fukken worse and I'm ready to go full menhera on this and delete it all but maybe some of you can help and make me see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Here's a couple notes regarding the design:
- quest board text needs an ornamented sign
- different parchment sizes / shapes to be more dynamic needed
- switch the background for a mix of wood / and have a cork style surface (might hurt the contrast)
- make proper "no stream" posters like "guild closed" or "resting at the inn"
- the exp bar / gold rewards would matter because i can put those in my game and use it to tackle new bosses and if i fail to defeat them (only get one try as i play live) id have to do more streaming reps to get exp and level up my character (model).

I think I'm overdoing it and it's getting to the point where it's way too cringe and i should just get the model done and be a regular chuuba like everyone else but i don't know. Feeling a little uneasy today, even if i had fun on stream.

>>23207207
I personally think it looks pretty nice, but I'm an artlet. Post the old one for comparison

>>23207207
It looks alright but I would try to get a better wood background that isn't so pixelated, also get rid of the watermarks if you're going to stick with that one.

>>23207207
Nice aesthetic. People enjoy when it all fits together like this. That being said it looks better than 99% of shit out there and nitpicking is slowing you down. Go to therapy, you're holding yourself back.

>big chuuba graduations already happening
boats already sailed aspies. maybe next time.

>>23199685
Assuming zero being having no pc and streaming setup, I would spend 2k on dual laptop setup and the bare minimum streaming equipment (mic + arm + webcam), 1k on vocal and nip lessons annualized, 1k on top tier model and mid tier rig.
Once there's a decent return, use the rest of the money to commission a long term editor and hire a manager so I can purely focus on content

>>23207727
Sure here you go.
>>23208515
Yeah stuff like the parchment and the background is just dummy untill i finalize the layout. I'm not sure if I'm gonna stick with stuff, but I'll just buy the stock photos if i have to. It was blurred by me actually because the actual pic is too "real" to fit a more stylised aesthetic. I
This stuff is doubly hard forel me, because I can't draw.
>>23208580
No therapy, but i promise i only nitpick when i have the time. I have roughly 2 months until my model is done, so there's plenty of time, since i decided to let these things run parallel.

>>23209073
forgot attachment

>>23207207
> It was blurred by me actually because the actual pic is too "real" to fit a more stylised aesthetic. This stuff is doubly hard for me, because I can't draw.
Found this vector wood, it's an .eps file so if you have illustrator you could tamper with it at will.
https://freedesignfile.com/253473-wooden-board-frame-vector-material/

would a What wrestler dSean Waltman? Work?

>>23209590
only if your kayfabe is good. :^)

>>23209590
>>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
>First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

>>23197796
I'm not too worried about dropping money on an art commission because that's fun too - I'm enjoying the process and the artwork will be nice to have regardless. That said, I hear you and what you're trying to say. Aiming to get streaming asap to confirm that I will enjoy it too.

>>23209044
Who is graduating?

>>23210485
https://twitter.com/moenaomii/status/1519114470483959808

Scuffed stream
Scuffed viewership
Fuck

aspies i need dopamine

>>23207207
I feel like skeumorphic designs like this are a lot of work. I tried looking up existing ones and... it's genuinely hard, bro, so don't feel down about it. Not all of the examples in picrel are great, but they've all got something decent about them.

I think part of the problem is slightly conceptual. A board like this is visually conflicting, with every piece trying to attract attention in its own way because of its myriad contributors. There are things that draw the eye, but it's not organized, unlike a schedule. Most of my examples have some physical overlap, and the most bland example (bottom left) uses the same layout for each post.

It's not to say your concept can't be done, but that may be unknowingly contributing to your frustrations. As you said, varying the sizes/shapes of the posts will likely help.

>>23212677
hey I have a tennis ball in my hands and OH WOW I just threw it over there!!! better go get it :D

>>23209590
would people watch

>>23212912
this was enough thank you

>>23212921
>>Do you think there's an audience for X, Y, Z content?
>First, ask yourself if you would watch a streamer of your skill and experience. Second, do a check on social media and look to see if other streamers are already creating similar content. Don't limit yourself to vtubers, include traditional real life streamers to scope out a potential audience.

I don't know if I am going to do another drawing stream again anytime soon...
That was scuffed to hell and back, several times over.
>late stream announcement
>actually was late to stream
>sat on "starting soon" for 10 minutes while trying to find the stupid drawing glove for using with the tablet
>lots of ups and ahs and dead air
>stream gets cut off or something around 1.5 hours in
>couldn't even do two full coloured sketches in 2.5 hours
>had issues where CSP wouldn't put anything down even though I switched colors/brushes/eraser mode around multiple times
I'll just stick to games like Mario Kart I guess.

>>23214113
Good. Don't fall for the drawing streams bait.

>>23213874
this will almost always be the only true answer to any of those questions, not sure why people keep asking

>>23214113
most of those problems are avoidable by just making sure everything is setup beforehand

>>23214329
>not sure why people keep asking
they keep forgetting the last part and refuse to look at anything that's not explicitly vtuber related.

>>23214376
That is correct
I tried setting up my MacBook Pro with my XP PEN and capture card, but the XP PEN wasn't behaving , I ended up spending like 2+ hours this evening trying to make sure that it did all work, but of course stream started and I was still unprepared and barely tried using CSP for the first time in ages beforehand.
Oh well... live and learn.

>>23215058
you're being too hard on yourself, you're far from the point in your journey where everything needs to be "perfect"

>>23211672
That is a SUPER sudden graduation. Hololive might be debuting a new wave soon, or Nijisanji is moving a ton faster than we thought.

>>23199685
Assuming I have nothing?

>Shure SM7B, Cloudlifder and GoXLR together is around 500 in my economy
>My country has a variety of different "PC Building" websites, which means I could get a 3090 tier PC for around 2000
>Model, I'd opt for a 2D live. I'd leave a budget of 1000 for any rigging woes etc
>Remaining funds would be for a desk, chair and covering bills

>>23215257
Not sudden at all, he's been on break for two months.

>>23207207
Anon, get yourself a better wood image. Something a lot of you guys need to do is use https://www.pexels.com/ for free to use photos and other misc elements. Most don't require accreditation either.

Use search terms like "Abstract" and you can min-max your backgrounds, overlays etc.

>>23215648
corpo *is* a likely cause, though. If talks were proceeding seriously, I know I wouldn't want to stream while under a watchful eye

Been watching a new 2view, and I just realized that, man, watching someone just play a game sucks lmao

They don't have a lot of dead air, but they're kinda just lacking in chat interaction and character energy

I think they'll improve though!

>>23215648
only on his channel, he still appeared on other's channels for collabs
the last being literally yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm-NOwZK5lM

>>23214160
>drawing streams bait
Explain

Any of you done hand cam before?

mehnera tuesday... i had so many technical difficulties that i've never had before on tonight's stream

>>23206137
>females
I think you meant troons

>>23216209
This kind of thing is why I've pretty much only done watchalongs on pomf. It's easier to explain dead air as being focused on watching a thing, and I can pay more attention to chat so interaction is also easier

>>23216463
It's ok, just roll with it. For most viewers having you fumble around with stuff and failing is more "entertainment" than just having things work as long as you don't nuke your stream entirely. And even then it's not the end of the world. I can understand that it's not enjoyable for yourself. I hate messing with audio and being told something is bad or even worse has been bad for like 30 minutes. Especially annoying as a 2view where nobody really chats.

also menhera wednesday... i couldn't get any sleep after my stream, had to call in sick i still cant sleep... its 6am... im tired but i cant sleep.

>>23216209
It's tough, i think more populated streams are more fun for viewers too, i feel bad as a streamer who accomodates 3 and a half viewers who have to awkwardly chat with me because nobody else would do it. I wanna become a little bit more popular for them too...

>>23216445
i want to look into it, i wanna build some gunpla

>>23216324
I mean do they get you viewers? grinding mario kart or some other lowkey nintendo game will always see more new viewers in my opinion.

Is streaming genshin that big of a deal if you haven't played it before? Like people irl kept on saying for me to stream genshin since I haven't played at all

>>23216791
thanks kaiser, my difficulties rendered my computer unusable without a restart though which made me feel super crazy, especially since i'd already restarted stream once this evening too :(

i hope you can get some rest in soon, and if not, then i hope you can get something to eat for breakfast! no more menhera wednesday...! you can do it kaiser

>>23216981
People like to talk about an compare gacha pulls, so gacha streams tend to be well received just for that. Early on it's also a genuinely fun game. The usual grind when you run out of stuff to do made me stop playing though.

what would be the lowest possible upload speed to be able to do a 720p30fps stream? like a drawing stream

>>23216209
I'm a 2view who just plays games. Hell, I could even be the exact person you're talking about. I have big plans for other content that I want to do, but I don't have the viewership to do it. It's a really rough go here at the beginning :(

also would be curious to know who you're talking about but obviously I can't force you to say lmao

>>23216970
Drawing streams seem to be too worst performing, but I’ve only done two of them so far
Actually I think I peaked at the stream n the 12th and every stream seems to decrease in viewers. And that stream was… Mario Kart.
I don’t want to just play one game all the time lol.

>>23216791
Honestly, I actually really enjoy smaller streams if the person interacts with chat. With bigger streams, as a chatter, I just sorta become part of the wave and it's not particularly entertaining anymore.

For me at least, the appeal of a streamer is chat interaction at the lower levels. Once you go beyond 10 (arbitrary number, don't put weight on it) active chatters, to me, there's no real value to the stream vs just watching the vod.

That's of course just me, as a 2view enjoyer. I don't ever want to discourage people from trying to grow though.

>>23217296
Well if you just closed stream after dying in Elden Ring one too many times, it's you. If it is (and regardless if not) I hope you have good time!

>>23217296
As long as your internet speed is higher than your bitrate you're golden, it's 6000 kilobits per second by default but you can lower it

>>23218281
ah, ok, not me then. Thanks for clarifying anon

>Tested a simple recording of gameplay with a friend on Discord call for about 20 minutes
>OBS recording only shows 4 minutes of a sideshow
>Audio is what I expected, but running anything heavier than minesweeper is apparently super taxing on my system.
Guess I'm gonna be limited to zatsudans, ASMR and music until I can upgrade my PC.

thinking of what to add to my stream and nothing really comes to mind. I right now just have fades for my scene transitions but I'm not sure what I'd want for a scene transition. Anyone out there see any that they like that might give me inspiration?

>>23218319
Thanks, looks like I've got barely enough lol

>>23218781
Jesus anon, what are your PC specs?

>>23218781
OBS gave me issues recording before. I'd say do a test stream at least and see how that looks. You can do private, unlisted youtube streams so no one sees.

>>23218897
Look up stingers and pick one you like. There's a lot of free ones on Twitter

>>23216981
If you're interested in genshin I would play it on stream. There's a market for putting "NEW PLAYER REACTS", I've discovered plenty of chuubas and irl streamers through it.

I wouldn't play a game I'm not interested in though, but that's your choice.

Wish I could do that desu, but I already played Genshin before I considered becoming a chuuba so I can't lol

>>23218897
Oh an a custom chat might be cool

>>23218959
Intel Core i3-7020U
12GB RAM
500GB SSD
No graphics card, because I probably wouldn't have this problem if there was

It's an HP laptop that I've used for the past 5 years (for college and telework) and put a few extra sticks of RAM plus changed the default hard drive to an SSD.

>>23218969
The ones that don't involve playing games are 100% fine. I spent 3 hours working in FL Studio once, streaming to nobody and everything worked alright, but Children's Card Game too hawd

>>23219436
With a setup like that it would be hard to stream something hardcore, yeah. I believe in you tho.

>>23219436
aspies stop trying to stream on laptops

>>23219436
>Intel Core i3-7020U
>12GB RAM
>500GB SSD
>No graphics card

>>23219533
I would edit videos on laptops, but working on anything for longer than 30 minutes starts to get real choppy, eh. I've probably been going about it wrong and just can't be a gamer (unless it's mobile).

>>23219436
>i3
>no graphics card
anon...

Vtube studio 25% cpu usage by default, same case even when using an android phone.
CPU 100% usage when streaming heavier games, but stable.
I probably should upgrade, huh.

I'm going live! Lets play some more Slime Rancher! It'll be comfy

https://www.twitch.tv/Lullabaa

>>23221228
Probably so. What are you running right now?

>>23221309
i7-7700hq
24gm ram
1050 ti
laptop

I just debuted but I already want to quit because I’m doing it just to keep up appearances with an ex friend of mine and it’s sucks so much ass, I’m really stressed out and don’t know where else to vent this.

>>23221378
why do you care about an ex friend? if that's the only reason why you're doing it, drop it. it is obviously bringing no joy to your life.

>>23221378
Just breathe dude.

Get into the mindset that you're streaming just to play video games... what's to stress about?

>>23221465
We were supposed to do it together but things went sideways and if I drop now it’ll cause a lot of unnecessary drama which is even worse then steaming.

>>23221469
It’s fine while I am streaming, for the most part, but the before and after really get to me.

>>23221368
That's not the worst by any stretch but yeah, it's probably time to start saving for an upgrade soon. Laptops are basically really smart panini presses.
>>23221378
You have at least this anon's permission to vent further if you'd like. I'm giving every other reader and poster in /asp/ permission to light my ass up for whatever blogpost you might write in response to this.
Even if you don't want to vent, you have my sympathies.

>>23221582
Ah, I see. Sorry to hear that.
Sounds cliche but meditation genuinely does help reduce stress.

You should at least consider spending some time doing meditation or breathing exercises daily.

In any case, hang in there. I hope you feel better soon.

>>23221378
>>23221582
That fucking sucks but you shouldn't feel locked into a project you're not comfortable with. If I were you i'd tell exfriend that some creepy guy found you through streaming and you don't feel safe anymore, then rebrand yourself and keep it a secret. I'm also terrible at advice so...

>>23221645
It’s pretty simple, and a lil petty of me, but we were supposed to do it together like I said. They took off before I got to even debut, and they don’t even mention my name now when they tell stories about what we’ve done. I’m just friend #204 now or whatever and we don’t even talk anymore despite me trying. I’m a little lost because I made this character to go on a journey with them and it’s so tied up with them it’s become painful, even if streaming once sparked joy, it just scares me now.

>>23221869
Aw man, that really doesn't sound fun. If you hadn't already called them an ex-friend I would really suggest that you bring this up with them. I don't really think it would be unreasonable of you to ask that they mention you by name if the two of you truly were in this together pre-debut. I can't imagine that a real friend would have any problems namedropping you in passing.
In any case, you really do have my sympathies.

Think about what motivated you to become a vtuber in the first place. You need to do a little introspection and see whether or not you're truly driving your own car or not right now, so to speak. You can't sit in the passenger seat of your own life. If you don't want to be a vtuber that's perfectly okay, but you need to be honest with yourself. You have to have enough faith in yourself to succeed by your own merits if this is truly something you want for yourself and not something that you were just made to go along with.

>>23200502
I can speak Japanese, I lived in Japan for a while so I can hold a conversation. I can also speak bits and bobs of other languages to find my way around such as
>Thai
>Malaysian
>German

I've had experience in using all three of those to limited effectiveness.

>>23222088
Thank you, I appreciate it. I hope that with time I can find my own natural groove again that I had before and why I loved streaming. I do think it’s a time thing, and a dash of jealousy and hurt, but nothing time and a lil determination can’t fix hopefully.

>>23221869
Sounds quite rough and emotionally distressing, but it's an opportunity to re-think the character and perhaps think of a new thing/story to experience instead. Maybe have some time to make peace with the loss, but try to convert the negative energies into something positive. As in think about how even if the project won't happen you still have assets to make/re-purpose for something else. It's mostly the emotions that need to accept and move on and it doesn't need to be a sad thing. Could be liberating in some ways for others.

>>23222185
You're welcome. That's the spirit, anon.

>makes their entire identity a collab
stop doing collabs

>>23222710
You're starting to worry me, anti-collab anon...

Don't give him you's

>>23222949
That would be too pitiful...

My entire character is made to milk sperm...

>>23215257
People are still getting views on their auditions for Niji so I think Holo is more likely for Moe. Good Holostars catch I think

>>23223926
Are you a girl.

>>23224085
>good holostars catch
>female using cunny voice

>>23224521
Moe is a guy

>>23224627
They're also underage

>>23224690
cool.
UOOHH

>>23224690
IM GROOOMING

>>23207207
Oh come on, it's not that bad. You're thinking too much.
I would reduce the saturation of your avatar's picture.

>>23207207
VERY nice design, but all that I get from a quick glance are the day and games. Time and timezones are so fucking small. You really don't want people dissecting and squinting at a schedule. Make sure it's easy and quick to digest.

What even are voice packs?
Are they just random noises vtubers make that people can use for notification noises? Full blown audio dramas where you pretend to go on a date with them? Something else entirely?

My voice is probably my strongest asset and I'd like to showcase via something similar, but in addition to not really knowing what they're all about I also don't know where the bar rests in terms of quality and production for these sorts of things.

>>23221270
Thank you to everyone who joined, it was super comfy!

What does it take for a male to make it big in this industry, guys? I wanna give it a shot, i already sketched out my model's design and i even have a humble following for being an artist

>>23226209
Why not download one

>>23226474
Good point. Any you'd recommend?

Okay, so we know we can't display anime or manga in twitch, but how about youtube? Can we livestream manga contents in youtube? Like screensharing mangaplus or something?

>>23226455
You wanna be big? Like a super-star? Like some kind of a rockstar? -- Doing cocaine and women in hotel rooms?
You think you got what it takes.. Buddy?

>>23226956
You're a small and insignificant streamer, do what you want. You aren't on Twitch's radar.

Going for a controversy run. Wish me luck. If I’m starting from zero there’s nowhere to go but up.

>>23227490
yeah

I should just play something next stream that makes you get going immediately and not fuck around for hours
And not fail so much at playing
t. bodysuit anon

c-could i also post my schedule and get feedback on the general aesthetic / readability of it? i've been using mine for a few weeks and when i look at it i can't help but feel like there's something extremely off and i'm not sure if i'm just being stupid and feeding into my critical tendencies or if there's something staring me in my eye that i can't connect the dots on

>>23228906
just post it

can you use just chatting streams as resume

>>23227739
Yeah, that's why I'm asking, it would suck if they ban me even when I'm doing it just as a hobby

How do you do wigglies?

>>23229960
Twitch turns a blind eye unless it's actually just porn/nudity or if it makes them look bad in public if they feign ignorance

>>23230104
you wiggle

>>23228879
Also I would draw myself on low power mode or low battery or something but I’m working atm
I want more cute AI/persocom mode Azu fanart >>…

>>23230491
I think he means the seal animation thing.

>>23230104
You get a fan to do it for you.

>>23231334
Find a decent base gif and draw over it. I converted it from an mp4 i found on twitter to a shitty gif, colors are terrible but it's crisp enough and you are supposed to draw over it anyways.

Good luck.

Pretty cool feature.
https://twitter.com/UNAGIdonYADE/status/1518999535128772608

>>23228424
I'm gonna let you in on a little secret my man, you've gotta have two things: Charisma and Audacity.
You've also got to understand what kind of audience you're showing up to and how you can influence them with your contentz.
If you can't figure out what kind of audience you're trying to entertain and how you'll be breaking into the market -- then it's over for you, ya dig..?

>Charisma
Gotta be out there and be able to make lasting impressions within the first few minutes -- no, seconds of them watching your stream.

Some sort of memorability attached to your character.
Try playing into your surface-level gimmicks first. You need to make yourself memorable by having a simple character on the surface, since most people would skip past males -- you have a small time-frame to make an impression (Young men ain't looking for a boyfriend. And being a buddy makes no money.)
You gotta show people up front what your deal is, what mask and theme they'll be staring at at first, before they see the real deal underneath.
You gotta be noticed before people will entertain your attempts of entertaining them.

>Audacity
Limp-wristed men get no respect from anyone, feel me? You couldn't even touch me! Embrace who you are and the character you play -- and never back down.

This'll be who you are for a few months and, if you're lucky, maybe a year. If you refuse to play the character (an extension of you) to your fullest potential, you'll be doing yourself a disservice.
Be bold, be brazen even -- but don't forget your audience and what they're looking for from you, and don't forget that, to some extent they don't know completely what they want, until you show it to them.

It's a good thing you've got a small following already, maybe tease them a bit on what you're working on.
Since it might be jarring for them if you suddenly become a vtuber if you haven't shown much of your character or personality through what you've drawn or funny little things you've sketched.

And don't forget that you'll always have people here to turn to, anon

>>23234155
Has been 3rd party software doing that for a long time. But it is also one of those things that nobody will look at beyond the initial wow factor.

>>23234705
Not that anon, I already have Audacity installed, but I've never heard of Charisma. You have a link?

>>23234705
>being a buddy makes no money
not being the right kind buddy then, nudge nudge wink wink

New low bros, I've started posting clips and shit to reddit. The worst part is that it's working

>>23237351
Noooo I was supposed to groom you first

>>23237156
Ah, I gotchu, I gotchu. You're saying I need to become Buddy Hield from the Indiana Pacers. Smart.

>>23237351
how significant is the boost

>>23237351
Just pretend to be a faggot and they'll love it. But at what cost?

Why I am not surprised.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1519304721080766465

>>23237351
Crazy, some retard in these threads said that was a horrible idea. What a development!

>>23232289
How does one do that?

>>23237612
it's beeg, the upvotes/views are mogging the twitter performance for the exact same content. Here's the thing- I could post to my small band of followers and not get much attention/sharing, or I could post to a group that already has hundreds of thousands of followers and get much more publicity. It's really not rocket science

>>23239618
Are there any subreddits in particular that you'd recommend I post to if I try this for myself?

>>23197512
Anon, in which platform can I follow you?
I'd like to provide you with a PNG avatar.

>>23230104
>>23230491
>>23232701
https://files.catbox.moe/nzupu6.clip

https://files.catbox.moe/az5qv6.psd

Miyotan…

I messaged a twitter mutual to ask if I could commission them and they straight up ignored me - am I being menhera for feeling upset? They've been active for quite some time since my message. Isn't it common courtesy to at least send a rejection message if they're not interested?

>>23241558
They might've missed your dm. I had to message an artist twice and reply to a post to get them to check dms. After that it was pretty smooth. Artists do be like that sometimes.

>>23241684
Thanks for the assurance anon, I've already sent a follow up message so I hope they see it!

Would we have normally heard something about holo’s maleEN by now? was my application so bad that they’d rather go with nobody than pick me?

>>23241958
There is no end date on the applications so yes, there will be no pity invites, they keep going until they have what they want

>>23241958
Yeah I got in HoloEN males, guess it's too late for you now.

>>23234705
Thank you, anon, i might print this and have it next to my monitor so i don't forget it when streaming!!

I’m too nervous to ask Miyo (or anyone) for a commission
Mostly because I will feel pressured to actually go through with it even if it might be too expensive for me.
Also I don’t have a chuuba PayPal business account.

>>23241312
Very cool, thank you anon. I shall keep this in case i ever wanna make an admiral wiggly so people can be confused where it comes from when i switch models.

>>23241439
Miyo love!

>>23243261
Don't be pressured anon! i am an artist and my main gig is doing commission work, it doesn't offend me or any other artist to be turned down or to be put on hold til the client has made up the money to actually go through with the commission, give it a shot!

>>23243261
As someone who has dealt with plenty of people in commissions the only thing you have to NOT do is ask for a discount. If you get the price back and go "ah sorry that's not in my budget right now" then I, as a reasonable human being, would naturally go "no problem man, hit me up whenever" and carry on with my day. If an artist responds rudely or tries to belittle you they ain't right.

>>23242190
Wasn’t EN’s first gen practically pity hires? At least compared to their standards now, that is. You would think they would extend that leniency to a male branch that no one even knows will pay off well, especially at this point

>>23243401
>>23243538
Based art anons

I want to lick Miyo's tummy...

Babis run this fucking thread!

>>23237893
this doesn't apply to aspies

>>23244253
Ogey
[azu-ogey.png]

Other than live2d/3D shit, what is a better thing to commission first? Social avatar, twitch banner/off air, twitter banner, ???

>>23245052
none of those. use your model for your avatar. no one cares about banners and off air video isn't something you need to care about until you have enough off twitch discovery for people to notice.

>>23243792
....what? EN1's standards were the highest there's been period not even just in EN but the whole org. Amelia is the only one I'd consider a "Pity Hire" and even she was big at the time and the only one with lots of streaming experience

>>23245132
>>23245052
I think you should prioritize your model, but having an off air sign and so on goes a long way in my opinion, on air and off air signs were the first things i drew after i got my first model finished, it's nice to spruce up your stream, i also made a small repeating gif i play at the start of the streams while i'm getting ready, maybe that's also something you'd like to look into after you get your model! gives you a little extra time to get prepared and time for people to mount up so the chat isn't completely still at the start of your stream.

>>23241558
I've missed so many messages because some go to Requests and I don't always see alerts for them.

>>23245512
>you should prioritize your model
this the number one important thing. if your model is cute enough or hot enough people will naturally want to make fanart of you regardless.

>>23243538
Retarded. I would do this until recently now fuck it. A lot of the times I will ask for some sort of discount. For example a project that was 1100 I got down to 800. It's buisness, we're not friends. I don't have to like you or overpay. Now being reasonable is key. 50% off is insane. But making reasonable request is important, because every dollar saved is another dollar you can reinvest. If a normal picture is 30$ and I know at 20 I'll be able to afford x ammount, and can offer guaranteed ammounts of sales, then leverage that. Be respectful and be straightforward.

>>23246464
>Retarded
at least you're self aware

>>23247069
Whatever you say. If you're to scared to even work with the artist on a price that's reasonable and that you can afford then it's your loss.

>>23246065
There's no number number 1 thing i'd say, to me it's a triforce really, like >>23234705 said, you need charisma, a cute model and a good looking stream setup, if you can manage to have all of these things then you've got a good start for sure.

>>23246464
There is literally zero haggling in art commissions unless you are buying from the worst. Best case they tell you no, worst case you get blocked because they are tired of people not reading their tos/pricing.

>>23246464
If you're a really good streamer, you can offer to pay in exposure and credit them! Artists love exposure.
If you don't have big numbers yet, just promise you'll get there soon.

>>23247476
kek
saddest part is this actually happens sometimes

>>23226956
A few streamers go to pomf for things like screensharing content that would get them copyright claimed. Depends on how comfortable you are on a site generally used for loli art though.

>>23247365
>>23247476
You people are retarded. It's like listening to kids trying to tell an adult how the world works lol. Well for the smart lurkers heed my advice

>>23226956
Have some standards, use mangadex for reading mangas

>>23248011
the adult took the bait

>>23248092
Your audience deserves no less than handcam footage of you in full cosplay reading the genuine article. No compromises.

>>23248094
A sorry state of affairs.

>>23248011
>getting this triggered
>"business"
kek

>>23247365
my artist charges $700 for an outfit and I asked them if they can work with my budget ($550) but leave out the legs to reduce workload and they accepted. haggling is a No but you can definitely ask your artist if there's any way they can work with your budget just keep in my mind they'll do less work if you pay them less.

since this is /babi/ anyway, what do you guys feel like works better, babis with a voice changer or without one?

>>23248253
That is litterally haggling

>>23248377
The only person with a voice changer I can stand listening to is Tomari Mari.
I don't care if you sound like a man with an anime girl avatar as long as you don't sound like a creepy man who doesn't know how to talk to people.

>>23248377
Voice changers and TTS creep me out

>>23248094
Ironic shit posting is still shit posting

>>23248377
Without. Voice changer insta means you're trans. Honestly boyish or deeper voices are better. As long as its smooth

>>23248253
It's very dependant on what you're haggling for being a reasonable request. An artist I got a model from charges 400 but took my commission for 100 because I literally just needed a small mascot character made up of simple shapes, limited visemes, etc. Asking an artist to do the same amount of work for less isn't really reasonable or likely to get you results.

>>23248555
I'm now imagining a babiniku that uses a voice changer arguing that they aren't a transwoman and laughing to myself.

>>23248492
If tts freaks you out that might be like an autistic quirk. Like as in a litteral one. Most people are fine with it considering the prevelance of it in donations

>>23248393
well I if I want something I go and get it. in the end it comes down to how you do it. this is the difference between me and (You). you can continue living by rules you set yourself meanwhile I'll take whatever I want. maybe try a different career?

>>23248767
cringe. you sound like someone who took the sigma male memes seriously.

>>23248612
>Most people are fine with it considering the prevelance of it in donations
I obviously meant that TTS is weird with regards to the person actually streaming using it as their voice, you dipshit.

>>23246464
You're a clown, bub, as an artist, i'm sorry for the people that have to do ''buisness'' with you. kys lol

>>23248876
Calm down there with that tard rage, autist.

>>23248956
You are truly pitiful and really couldn't be more wrong about me. Have another reply, I guess.

>>23248767
>if i want something i go and get it
How bout you go and get a job that pays you well enough you don't gotta be a cheap fag

>>23249029
you're ngmi

>>23248890
Beo your art is probably fucking sonic inflation shit faggot. Which is why you're here to begin with. You don't have clients because you've let this hug box Gass you up and make you think you're actually worth something. I feel sorry for any one who has to interact with you, so you're fucking Uber eats delivery guy you fucking neet.
You're ngmi plus you'll never be a woman plus kill yourself.

>>23245512
My model is on the way, I need more things to spice up the profiles.

>>23249100
Have another one. This is really all you have going for you, isn't it?

>>23249051
How about you go get some bitches

>>23248377
Without, but do voice training to learn how to cast your voice.
It's possible, you just have to be careful that you don't do falsetto.

>>23249051
ngmi mindset

>>23249136
What's the concept behind your model, anon? mine is a bit cringe

>>23249244
Alright, sigmatard, enjoy having everyone you ever meet thinking you're a massive retard and you actually thinking it's their fault for thinking you're schizophrenic.

>>23249323
nta but we're all cringe. if it helps mines a small creature. I thought looking a bit like a digimon and keeping it simple would help separate me from just straight up furries. I haven't posted it here because people will call me that regardless and it isn't work shitting up the thread.
Share away.

I am a chuba with a soft and high-pitched voice looking for a mic upgrade. My current budget is 200$ at best. (for the microphone!) I am also looking for wireless in-ear headphones (general ones add too much pressure onto my head).
My room is untreated, the noises my current microphone is catching are PC (when it heats up which doesn't happen too often unless I open too many apps) and my loud, old keyboard.
I don't stream ASMR (even though I would like to have small ASMR or close-to-mic shorts for fun), just playing vidyas.

sigmatard
>your price says $1000 but best i can do is $700. nothing personnel it's just business.
artist
>then won't take your commission and take it from others who will pay me my prices. it's just business.
sigmatard
>heh get businessed ngmi

>>23248767
Lmao you're not getting what you want, you're getting what you can afford and if the artist says no you get nothing.

>>23249323
Fluffy-haired bodysuited alien

I've been working on a video about a specific topic for about 2 months now and it's close to being done. There's an anniversary for the topic coming up in about two weeks. Should I try to release the video on the anniversary (May 12th) to capitalize on potential trending/news or is it better to release it sooner, rather than later?

>>23249590
Scarlet 2i2 rode podcaster. Cloud filter cl1.
Facebook marketplace is your friend
>>23249656
It's litterally that simple though. Hey I see it's 1000, here's what I'm looking for here's my budget, is there something we can work out?
If they say no great move on to the next person. Litterally all they can say is no lol

>>23249868
I would release it on the anniversary and use the anniversary tag to shill my video.

>>23249508
That's a pretty original concept, i actually don't mind rubbing shoulders with furries, they keep commission artists afloat many a' times, as long as you're not befriending actual dog fuckers then they're not too different from some of the people in this site who wants to sniff girls discharged panties. I wish you good luck with your chuuba endeavors!

>>23249868
We get it you're fan of my little pony and are talking about that. Be gone brony fag

>>23250029
It's the Venture Bros.

>>23249979
I need to lean into the digital angle more for branding. It's hard to find good circuitry imagery that I can use without needing to pay or give credit, so my current stuff is mostly generic.
Might end up having to draw it myself and stealing as much imagery from Digimon games as I can legally get away with

>>23207207
You could have some fun with the RBG stats.

>HP as your stream timer
>SP your daily growth goal
>EXP and LV. your total growth

>>23249740
That's a real cute design, send me over your channel, i wanna check it out! My design is a catboy lieutenant, i'm a big military history guy and i plan on playing a fair amount of FPS so it fits with the theme!

>>23250992

https://twitch.tv/azu2yn
https://twitter.com/azu2yn

>>23249508
Another la creatura chuuba, pog

>>23251470
It's not complex but it works

>>23251581
I decided to do the admiral bahroo route where im la creatura and have cute anime girl hold me (also giving her a toggle where she pets me). I think your's can turn out good looking if you try hard enough and maybe get input from other people

>>23199685
draw my own png
buy a decent microphone
pocket the rest of the money

>>23250992
What's your channel or twitter?

>>23249590
For the wireless in-ears, i have the Razer Hammerhead True Wireless and i like them

>>23251875
https://twitter.com/Waika0w
https://pomf.tv/stream/Appltv
I plan on making a YT channel and a Twitch as soon as i finish my new model!

Given we got so many guys, now i wonder how many babis there are itt
http://poal.me/orbuf2

>>23252251
i regret scrolling through your profile

>>23252251
>that filename
i'm hoping that's not the alt right website

>>23252299
I forgot to leave a warning, forgive me anon

>>23252320
my name's Gab, altho i go by Appl online.

>>23250923
They will be tied to the RPG i'm developing alongside the stream. As i'm grinding stream reps the character gets exp (i wont get any in-game) to overcome the challenges in the games.

>>23252645
don't do this. it's a lot of work and no one gives a fuck.

>>23252251
Nice, a gay pedophile. And you have a boyfriend.
Fuckin' A.

>>23252859
I hear they run this thread!

>>23243261
setting up a business account is like super easy and it takes 2 seconds horaauuuyyyy also i dont care if i only get 5 dollars i need chips omnomnom also im really nice and awesome okay now give me your money pleazw
>>23243358
>>23241439
>>23244154
hi precious fans i love you all chuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu dont forget to watch delicious party precure airing every sunday

>>23253158
don't do this here. take it to /wvt/.

>>23253179
im not a streamer yet cause poop computer so i dont wanna go there cause im a faker

>>23253212
nta but Kiki had her own general before debuting, i'm sure you'd be fine (tho i don't mind you posting here, i barely check /wvt/)

>>23252859
That's the funniest fucking thing i read all day, thanks anon i'm not a pedophile btw

I might need some help with design ideas.
My character is a Zombie Wizard, and I want to get that idea across clearly before I get a proper model. the wizard part is easy. I've got a hat and robe.
For the zombie part, I had the idea of showing that someone else's skin was grafted on so I could be fully rebuilt. So I thought it'd be cool if there was a stitch down my face, and a different skin color above it, Maybe even a different eye color.
It took me a couple minutes to realize that's basically just Crazy Ollie.
I'm not fully giving up on the idea of that yet, but I'd definitely like to hear some ideas on how to make myself look like more of a zombie before my debut.
I'm going to at least put dark circles under my eyes, and try to make my hair look a bit longer and more ragged.

>>23253491
That's a lot of naked kids for someone who isn't a pedo imo

>>23253539
They're cartoons anon they aren't real.

>>23253539
>loli/shota=cp
go back