/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvTpcHr3ZVE

One year ago, Miori wasn't used goods.
Today, she collabs with m*les.
Miori Celesta is a whore

>>21879240
She literally had a bf before (and probably has one now)

>>21879407
Whore

too bad her coworkers are still 2views, being a breakout doesnt mean anything

>>21879099
>200k subs
>Terrible views

10 days ago Kobo and Zeta had 0 subscribers. Today they hit 300k. Kobo and Zeta are huge successes.

the ex 3 girls of myHolotv have a lot of talent. I hope that moon jelly finds her way to hololive or something.

>>21879465
Ami's a pretty consistent 3view now.

Imagine being in a chuuba company with m*le chuubas. Shit's hilarious. Hope her parents force her to graduate

>>21879099
I heard her content is just getting drunk and coombaiting/ranting and she'd never make it in Hololive because she wouldn't be able to do that, and that's the only reason people watch her. How true is this?

>>21879603
>I hope that moon jelly finds her way to hololive or something.
me too, so she can ditch that ugly as fuck model

alcohol has no place in my virtual female ideal fantasies, sorry

>>21879642
Anon, she is reaching 200k subscribers in a company where most of the girls have 5k-10k. Her growth is absolutely unbelievable, she was getting 3-4k subs per day for months. Her chart looks like an exponential curve.

The reason she became so popular is because she's fantastic. She's smart, witty, funny, and entertaining. Most importantly, she's offering something that nobody else is.

>>21879642
t. clipnigger

>>21879603
>I hope that moon jelly finds her way to hololive or something.
I'm pretty sure she'd absolutely hate that, out of the three she seemed like she got burned by MyHolo the most and I doubt she'll ever go corpo ever again

>>21880034
Riiiight. It had nothing to do with all the sexy shorts that she has done, right?

>>21879642
She is getting most of her subs from spamming lewd shorts. A couple of them went viral, but those people don't really watch streams, so her CCV is surprisingly low for the amount of subs she has.

>an unironic femcel is more secure in herself than /vt/ unicorns
lol
lmao

>>21879642
That just sounds like she'd do great in Holo

>>21879925
t. Mori

>>21880871
femcels don't exist anon

>>21879642
Many of the holo girls unironically wish they could let loose like this.

I want to see every chuuba /vt/ thinks "should get into Holo" actually get in so I can watch /vt/ complain about how they're a shadow of their former self or beg for graduation because "They don't fit in Holo".

>>21879099
Now tell us, how are the rest of Gen1 Tsunderia doing?

>>21880034
If she's so amazing why isn't she in Hololive?

>>21881256
Hololive already has a crass drinker music maker and you all hate her.

>>21880973
LMAO

>>21880034
>Most importantly, she's offering something that nobody else is.
Fucking lmao

>>21879698
>she can ditch that ugly as fuck model
The worst part is that it seems she loves that model

>>21881256
She's autistic like Suisei so she wants to keep her model at all costs but there's no more loopholes for getting into Hololive with an old model so Tsunderia was her best choice

>>21881481
drunk girl at the bar that you're hitting on

>>21881621
Thats just a minor variation on hostess club parasocial stream #32423423.

>>21881256
If hololive is so amazing why are Anya, Roboco, Mori, or Sana in it?

>>21879407
Why are holotards like this?

>>21879642
nigger you can oversimplify any vtuber's content in a phrase like this

>>21881889
Prove it by doing it for every single vtuber in existence.

>>21882054
>Every single vtuber in existence
They just talk at no one in particular while wiggling around on a screen

>>21882126
Pretty impressive. But what about png-tubers?

>>21881816
leave Anya and Roboco alone you double nigger

>>21882327
Let's be real they're all indie-tier streamers only carried by the Hololive brandI'm just kidding I love Roboco. She just happens to have consistently low views compared to the rest of JP (and I forgot Choco exists).

>>21881708
>hostess club parasocial stream
Which is actually a scarce good in the EN sphere, which is mostly variety game/activity streamers on one end and hardcore Twitch whores on the other. HoloEN for example has been out almost two years and all the girls are still pretty explicitly variety entertainers who mostly do videogames and in Mori and Irys's case pre-recorded music. Nothing wrong with that, but it's definitely not hostess club content, nevermind actual GFE.

>>21879099
She has better sub growth than like every single NijiEN girl except Nina I think. It is really impressive

>200k

*yawn*

I love Mio's butt

>>21885929
Sniffable

>>21879099
and? Most of NijiEN is newer than that and are already over 200k

>>21880871
>he doesn’t know that femcels describe themselves as sex havers and that they are still whores by that definition
fucking retard

>>21879642
what

>>21879099
>open stream
>generic female anime dub voice
>close stream

>>21886478
Anon, the stream hasn't even started

>Miori makes $2000-5000 in superchats a month
>Never shows up on any of the superchat rankings posted here

SHE'S SO PERFECT!!!

>200k subs
>little to no porn
did she really succeed?

>>21888429
>He doesn't know

How did she attract so many schizos when I see a bunch of grayname messages in the chat deleted. And sometimes they are not even lewd or offensive? Someone said "It's the coomer clips" but that can't be the only thing. This is the only small chuuba where I see so many messages deleted.

>>21879099
Such is the power of getting acknowledged by an Hololive member

>>21888507
Haven't seen any deleted messages this stream yet. Usually they're "Hi, how was your day?" spam, someone mentioning the view count, or shit like "is that your real voice?" "plz show ur face"

>>21888483
I fucking hate that phrase, it usually implies roommate shit, you telling me she has an onlyfans or something?

>>21879099
>200k

That's like tiny numbers in the current vtubing landscape. You may as well just call yourself a successful 5 viewer than a fantastic success.

Yeah its numberfagging but true.

>>21888713
Check her twitter. She literally has a R-18 art tag.
>>21888678
Just as this got posted, I saw a "can u say hi" get deleted, kek

I don't want my favorites joining Hololive or Nijisanji because I want there to be more than just the big three. Mio is perfect in Tsunderia and I'd hate to see her or any of the other small corpo girls jump ship again

>>21889724
>>21889784
>>21889839
She really has one of the cutest models ever. Mating press 24/7.

>>21881868
Niji is for people who want to ship vtubers
Holo is for people who want to be cucked in the worst way possible and secretly jerk off to it

>>21879642
She's also a pretty good jazz singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvs0-mVR9lk

>>21888785
>That's like tiny numbers in the current vtubing landscape
Outside of the biggest groups and a handful of very successful indies (most of whom are unofficially affiliated with those big groups anyway) that's absolutely not the case

>>21891394
And apparently she's studying physics in school too

>>21893019
I thought she was being forced to apply for med school

>>21893689
>>21893019
Yep, biology with focus into going into med school.
But after this semester, she's taking a year off. During which she's going to continue trying to grow her channel and convince her parents to not make her go to med school since she hates it.

>>21879099
Omedetou!!
Hopefully this helps incline tsunderia permanently

Did her mating press rant get archived?

>>21879099
What does 200k net in terms of $?

>>21897031
Sadly not enough to keep her out of med school.

>>21879099
literally tiktok tier

>>21896506
goddamn it guys I wasn't shitposting, I just want to jerk off

>>21897099
she's Asian, right? if so it's not just about the money with Asian parents, it's about the prestige. they want their kids to have professions they can brag to their friends and relatives about. vtubing isn't exactly a braggable or prestigious thing to talk about in most circles.

>>21897255
The archive link is in one of /tsun/ previous threads. Its a deluge link, you'll know when you see it. The stream was on march 10. Now go treasure hunting, you coomer

>>21897507
Thanks, anon. I will treasure your generosity.

>>21897571
Bust a fat one for me, buddy. Godspeed

>>21897168
Holy

>>21897168
Tiktok is a huge pool of potential viewers. As much as I'd never touch the Chinese spyware app, a lot of vtubers have found success finding a new audience there.

>>21897168
thats the youtube meta for anything but Hololive and Nijisanji
Don't want to play this meta? Twitch is where you HAVE TO go

>>21899031
>>21898344
>this meta
Doesn't seem all that effective at gathering viewers for your streams.

>>21899160
Yeah because Meme Shark with over 2M subs has 1M viewers every stream right?

>>21888785
>That's like tiny numbers in the current vtubing landscape
Your brain must be numberrotted by the big groups, especially the big two. In reality, 200K is already the top 1% of all vtubers, not to mention in a bigger scene of Youtuber.

>>21888785
>Yeah its numberfagging but true.
You have Number Rot if you think thats remotely true lmao

>>21898344
>>21899031
Spamming shorts is only good for subs which don’t care about the rest of your content, you can see it in Miori’s VOD and original song compared to the shorts. Also youtube pays out pennies for shorts and tiktok doesn’t pay shit unless you’re sponsored, Ai was “big” on there it didn’t help her at all.

>>21901011
but her short content is literally some of the best vtuber content

Holobronies and their numberfagging have been a disaster for vtubing
Can't even discuss smaller channels without them sperging out about Gura's legion of dead subs

>>21891037
just like her holo friend

>>21879122
why do half of small/indie female vtubers sound the same

>>21901754
>Mistakenly think holobros as numberfags
Anon, all I want is just for Miori to have a collab with Bae and Moon Jelly and split on Papa Holo right on his face

>>21901754
Guess who was numberfagging before Hololive became big?

>>21901869
Probably not small corpos like tsunderia considering they didn't exist yet
Not everyone who doesn't like hololive is a nijinigger

>>21902051
Tsunderia is actually the oldest western vtubing corporation. I don't know if they're older than hololive, but they're definitely older than hololive EN

>>21879099
subscribers are all doxxfags

>>21880034
>The reason she became so popular is because she's fantastic
I love mio but come on, she became so popular because of all the shorts

>>21901754
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

the only reason i follow her is because her choice of games

>>21879099
She gets like jack shit for views though.
Enna has barely more subs, but she gets 3-4x the views per stream.

>>21879605
her model is so derpy and don't match her voice and vibe, it's a waste to assign her to that model, kinda like Machita Chima who is a great singer but her derpy model really don't match with her voice

>HoloID Gen 3 debuted recently
>get 300k in a week or two
>this bitch gets 200k in a year

How the hell is this impressive? Are indieniggers braindamaged to push some shitty 2 view like this?

>>21902105
They aren't. Kana debuted in April 2020 and the agency was officially announced in June 2020. Sora debuted for Hololive in September 2017
They did beat out Myth by 5 months (or 3 months if you go by the official announcement date). It's really impressive that they nailed down Rosuuri and Nacho before Hololive and VShojo made them huge names in the VTuber sphere.
>>21903921
You can't compare Holo/Niji/VShojo numbers to the smaller startups. No one outside those three has any brand power, so they're living in complete different universes. Shiki at PRISM has 118k subs but can't crack 100 ccv sometimes. Miori getting 500+ for non-milestone streams is about average considering her sub count. The huge outlier in that regard is Amiya, who barely has 6k subs but regularly has over 100 viewers for normal streams. That's easily the best ratio for any of the startups

>>21904680
Vshojo barely has any brand power, look at the absolute dud that is Hime, and even people like ventrya aren't exactly benefiting greatly from the vshojo name

>>21897571
i'm a lazy cunt, please link here even if it's just the post

>>21904680
it may be an issue with yt ccvs
if you just look at random twitch no name vtubers, like literally who the fuck is that? vtubers have 3 views

>>21879521
She's Bae's friend, there isn't an all an out war between Hololive and Tsunderia.

>>21901011
doesn't matter, got ad revenue and engagement metrics. CCV is fun and all but we can figure out that of the measurable stuff it's probably least important one

>>21907911
>it's the least*

>>21907911
Youtube are shit for ad revenue on shorts. Like <$100 for 1m views if it's particularly short. Some guy who makes Gura animations posted some of his metrics a while back.

good for her

>>21903993
>derpy
>doesn't match her voice and vibe
Anon, I don't know what else to tell you, she's a self-admitted dork. Maybe I've just been watching her so long I can't imagine anything else.

>>21904351
How is being granted instant success regardless of talent by joining an already big company impressive? Connor was right btw

>>21911337
Connor was right indeed, but you do need to get in and pass the audition too.

>>21911223
I had the same opinion as that anon when I first saw her. But because she plays retro games I gave her a chance and holy shit, I can safely say that she is one of my favorites now. I dont think I missed a single stream in the past 3 weeks.

>>21879099
Congratulations to her! I'm gonna gift her a good and thorough mating press!

>>21911337
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>21913288
Disney/Marvel fan level of argument

>>21911337
Sounds like cope from a seething 2 view. Quality=more views it's just as simple as that.

>>21913607
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

Congrats to Miori. I hope she continues to grow and hopefully some of that popularity can spread to her friends.

>>21902622
>>21913288
>>21913948
Must be why holobronies keep saying Miori should be in Holo.

>>21914102
I also hope she continues to grow. Especially around the thigh area.

>>21913612
Suck that mcdonalds corporate cock for nothing in return

>>21900505
>if you think that's remotely true
Go ahead, ask the numbers thread in /vt/, and see if it is.

>>21893929
So she prefers to prostitute herself instead of trying to go for a stable career?

>>21916432
She hates it and wants to be a music producer/mixer instead. Doesn't matter if a job is stable if you'll be miserable doing it.

Reminder that "holobrony" isn't an empty insult. It refers to how just like the original bronies before them, they force their characters and unfounded perspectives into every single situation, regardless of relevancy.
This thread is a prime example.

>>21916345
SUCCESS BREEDS JEALOUSY

>>21879642
The truth is she's in the same box as girls like Shiki or Nene, they got lucky with the algorithm and that boosted the fuck out of their subs but the people who watch clips don't always watch streams. There's a reason OP used her subcount and not her views or superchat. She's still in a better spot than most small corpo girls don't get me wrong, but the key now is transferring the growth of one girl to the rest of them.

>>21901852
It will happen since HoloEN blocking collabs was a myth.

Any mention of Mio and her shorts just makes me think about how this sweaty neet who hardly showers probably wears the same pair on dolphin shorts for a week that must have the ripest concentrated rank pussy aroma

>>21919796

>>21918934
They played the algorithm and had some talent to back it up. Shiki is a good example of using the algo but not having much engagement talent. Nene and miori have a strong followings in their gfe niches

>>21899222
The only thing I know is that Miori gets the same CCV as some autistic pink rabbit with 30k subs.

>>21882228
Same thing, but without the wiggling.

>>21916416
The only thing that would show me is if the numberfags in there are retarded or not.

>>21904680
>who barely has 6k subs but regularly has over 100 viewers for normal streams.
>That's easily the best ratio for any of the startups
I'd say Pippa with her ~500 ccv to 30k subs is more impressive.

>>21879099
I love my Mio wife!

Remember the good old days?

>>21922179
I wonder what happened with that Marcia Bellerose, she was really cute.

>>21922179
You can still watch them more or less as they are

>>21922285
Marica is imprisoned in Hololive now.
Moon Jelly is my oshi

>>21922439
She went to find R

>>21920645
Thats exactly the same ratio, just x5

>>21914553
MIORI PLEASE JOIN HOLOLIVE
YOU'D THRIVE IN THERE

>>21927609
Success sure breeds jealousy

>>21922273

>>21879099
Her orisong is very cute. Never watched her though