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Better map edition

>> No.21842079
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>> No.21843473

https://mobile.twitter.com/mayuzumi_X/status/1511214172004286467

Seems like there will be another unofficial late-night custom today

>> No.21843644

I wish holo teams were a bit further apart, but i guess thems the draws

>> No.21843949

So is this thread gonna be a regular thing now?
>>21843644
On the other hand, the chances of Gorilla-Hoshikawa Master-Disciple early fights are up 70%

>> No.21844174

I'm excited to see who will get to control The Dome and Bloodhound Trials. Pakael has made it clear that he intends to run straight there after looting his place and Astel doesn't really like the idea of facing him so early. Astel might just head straight to Lava Siphon but Reid also said that his team will also be looting that place once Meshers leave it so he's stuck in quite an unfavorable spot.
As for Bloodhound Trials usually the team that controls Skyhook West take it, but with the rule of no looting other spots until you've at least landed within your designated landmark landing directly on Trials is out of the question. Might be interesting if both teams send their strongest member (Kuzuha/Axia) alone to try and control it.

>> No.21844530

>>21842049
>>21842079
>19 nijis on the left
LMAO

>> No.21844670

>>21844174(Me)
Wait I derped, Axia is in Met's team. Meant to say Ha Yun.

>> No.21844757

>>21843473
Nice
>>21844174
https://twitter.com/paka_el/status/1510608271488729090
Astel and Pakael might share the dome. I expect them to still fight each other early on

>> No.21844893

>>21842049
If anyone wants to win they should make a beeline to where Towa's team is and get rid of them asap.

>> No.21845101

Towa/Aqua/Suisei has gotten pretty arrogant during the scrimages. I hope they get btfo'd in tournament.

>> No.21845598

>>21842049
to my uneducated eyes it looks like HSKWs team is in a really bad spot. how true is that?

>> No.21845637

>>21844893
Why? Aqua is good but she's playing against other good teams. You can't solo a tourney.

>> No.21845720

>>21844893
>>21845637
After her performance in the scrims and customs, she definitely has a target on her back. Would be exciting to see how she (and the rest of her team) handles it.

>> No.21846004

>>21844893
Startend absolutely dominate climatizer though. Taking the fight to them doesn't seem like a very a good idea.

>> No.21846083

Is astel the only star that play apex?

>> No.21846088
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Kuzuha's, Noah's, Sumire's, Gorilla's, Met's and Towa's teams are going to race to wipe these teams, aren't they? Meanwhile every team South is going to try to fuck Akina in the ass

>> No.21846114

>>21846083
Meika is also in this tournament

>> No.21846214

>>21842049
>meschers, a team full of shitters, is surrounded by teams led by master-ranked players
At least now we know who gets last place

>> No.21846650

>>21846083
No, he and Izuru (also master) play the most but they've all been in Vsaikyou at least once except Oga (motion sickness). Roberu is the only other one in the tourney this time.

>> No.21846879

>>21846114
Cheeky cunt.

>> No.21847003

>>21846088
Shitpost aside, Als team has Hayun, who is master and performed pretty well in past customs. In fact, they wiped out Towa's team multiple times in matsuri's custom.
Chihiro's team mostly relies on Chihiro and putii, hard to predict their performance as they still haven't attended a custom in full party.

>> No.21847022

How is the point ladder in this tourney? Do they get points by kills like in most tornaments? I've never watched VSaikyou before.

>> No.21847030

>>21844893
For 90% of the teams to do that they have to get past Gorilla first.

>> No.21847078

>>21847022
Kills, placement and obviously round wins.

>> No.21847120

Why isn't hololive's professional fps coach training startend?

>> No.21847221

>>21847120
I’m busy having sex with Botan, sorry.

>> No.21847234

>>21847120
Who? Botan? She has negative interest on Apex.

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>>21847022
From the official website. In the previous vsaikyo tournaments, there was a limit on how many kill points in the first matches. The limit was decreased in each match (6 kill points max in the first match, 7 in the second, and no limit in the final match IIRC)
https://vtuber-saikyo.jp/

>> No.21847274

>>21847120
>professional fps coach
Most of them are male.

>> No.21847526

>>21847239
>on how many kill points
on how many kill points a team could get*

>> No.21847596

>>21847120
Botan fucking hates APEX

>> No.21848305

>>21847239
Match 1 - 6 kills
Match 2 & 3 - 9 kills
Match 4 & 5 - No kill limit

>> No.21848645

>>21847078
>>21847239
>>21848305
Oh, ok. Interesting. I'm guessing this is done to discourage to many fights in the beginning of the torney.

>> No.21848861

>>21845101
They were the exact opposite, praising how strong everyone is.

>> No.21848940

>>21848861
That's how japanese shittalk each other anon.
>oh I got one
>oh how surprising lol everyone was just soooo good. I'm sooooo surprise I won

>> No.21849001
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>>21848940

>> No.21849100

>>21848940
What? This never happened lmao
They were praising others when they died
Watch streams
And take your meds faggot

>> No.21849148

>>21849001
>>21849100
T. Politelets

>> No.21849247

South area is a fucking bloodbath.
Gorilla and Aqua should kill each other

>> No.21849329

>>21848940
>Heh we won so easily, maybe this tournament is just easy for us
wow look at them so arrogant, hope they fucking lose
>Wow the other players are good, this isnt easy its going to be tough!
wow look at them pretending, fucking arrogant, hope they fucking lose

>> No.21849520

>>21848645
It's still a good idea to get as many kills to starve other teams of kill points

>> No.21849616

>>21848645
I think part of the reason this rule exists is for hype. If you know after one match which team is going to win because they got a champion and 20 kills (32 points), the rest of the tournament becomes boring

>> No.21851467

>>21845720
>she definitely has a target on her back
StartEnd does. But doing that will be really shitty. Plus they would get hate which is something vtubers do not want.

>> No.21851859

>>21851467
Unless Aquafags are worse than Junfags, I don't think it'll be an issue.

>> No.21851916

>>21851467
>Tournament with prize money on the line
>not doing whatever it takes to have the best chance of winning

>> No.21852893

>>21847003
>Als team has Hayun, who is master and performed pretty well in past customs
Indeed, he did pretty well just now (7th, 2 kills, 2 assists and 1700 damage). Akina's team got a champion too

>> No.21853389

>>21842049
RIP that poor team between Towa and Gorilla

>> No.21853522

>>21851916
How much money we talking?

>> No.21854125

>>21853522
Last Vsaikyou tournament prize pool was 3 Million Yen.
>1st Place - 1.5M Yen
>2nd - 600K Yen
>3rd - 150K Yen
So expect somewhere similar

>> No.21855490

>>21848645
it's mostly to keep the sense of tension going, so one team that really pops off and gets twenty kills in the first round isn't guranteed a win

>> No.21855568

>>21849247
Gorilla is going to die to Aqua's team in a straight up match, he's really good but he's just one guy, and his team are complete deadweights, unlike Aqua's team where both Towa and Aqua are pretty good players and Suisei is no slouch either

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>>21855568
Siro can clean up after Gorilla's mess

>> No.21855970

>>21855568
Towa and Suisei are pretty worthless the moment Aqua dies, Towa's an ok support but Suisei has no clue what shes doing when she isnt just following the other two around
the strategy to take them out in the Tourney is pretty simple, just bum rush Aqua and get her knocked and as long as you havent lost your entire team you can 1v2 or 2v2 the others pretty easily

>> No.21856322

>>21855970
You can literally say the same for most other master teams

>> No.21856963

>>21844174
Pakael's team takes about 3 minutes to loot Lava City before they move on the Dome. Astel isn't participating in today's custom, but I assume his team would take more time to get to the Dome as Launch Site is a pretty big area

>> No.21858343

>>21853389
pretty sure the Neoporte teams can handle themselves, considering their Apex skills are their main draw

>> No.21859844

>>21854125
this is literally change money for holos

>> No.21859864

>>21856322
Sure, but Aqua is especially aggressive for this setting, the others have more experience and understand that the entirety of their team depends on them

>> No.21860132

>>21842049
When is the tournament and how do I watch it?

I don't know anything about Apex and yet I'm hype for this tournament.

>> No.21860174

>>21860132
the tournament proper is on the 17th, and it will be broadcast on yourtube.
someone will probably make a thread with links on the day
also there'd be pre tournament matches on the 15th and 16th too

>> No.21860625

>>21860174
I'll watch them all!!
I used to watch the OW league so I'm glad to watch more esports stuff. Specially if it's vtuber related.

>> No.21860737

>>21856322
Aqua's play style is quite aggressive. Although her skill is pretty good, arguebly one of the best in the entire tournement, and been able to 1v2 or even 1v3 in right conditions, she would just rush into battle and then die in crossfire sometimes, lefting Towa and Suisei be looted by other team.

>> No.21860910

>>21860174
We should definitely make a VSaikyou S4 split.

>> No.21862629
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>>21842049
https://twitter.com/ShibuyaHAL/status/1504813926650814472
when's the next scrim, btw?

>> No.21862694

How did they get Climatizer?
Isn't it something that other teams want too?

>> No.21862702

Considering that alot of the teams are opting for Crypto/Wattson team comps aka campy do you think Astel's Maggie pick might be a bit anti meta and to his advantage?

Or is the character that trash?

>> No.21862743

>>21862694
it's done through a lottery

>> No.21863120

>>21860910
This is the split, just keep making the thread until game day.

>> No.21863277

>>21862694
No one else really wanted it.

>> No.21863301

>>21862694
>>21862743
No, this time it was a draft.
>>21798093
>They did a draft, prior to the draft they picked preferred drop spots, with lower ranked teams getting their spot over higher ranked teams if there were any conflicts.
No one picked Climatizer as their first preference

>> No.21863550

>>21863277
>>21863301
So Aqua team got a shitty location nobody wants?

>> No.21863654

>>21855568
siro is on controller retard

>> No.21863718

>>21863550
no, they got one of the best loot spots on the map because no one wanted to risk 50/50 rolling for it.

>> No.21863813

>>21846088
you don't race to wipe specific teams in a tournament environment, especially ones literally across the map.

>> No.21863916

>>21863654
>controller
Complete deadweight and actively griefing Gorilla

>> No.21864166

>>21863916
console aim assist, so literally none of that matters

>> No.21864413

>>21862629
Right now scrims happen when random people put them on. They are most nights. The official ones don't start till the 11th.

>> No.21864543

>>21863550
It's not shitty per se, it has a bunch of high tier loots, just that doing rotation from that spot if the ring ends up in the south area is a mess. Also Startend has been dropping there since their first custom lobby matches, other teams will automatically assume that it will be drafted as the first choice so no real reason to also draft it as theirs and risk lottery.

>> No.21864547

>>21847239
>>21848645
The kill point caps only started in S3 to prevent teams from winning solely off of kill points. Vsaikyou S2, despite implementing the rank point system to balance the teams, still had crazy kill point scores from both the two champion teams and the scrim favorite, Big Star, who cleared practically a third of the lobby in round 1. The rule change followed parallel developments in other tournaments like the CR cup, where the pattern of some teams (mostly Ras) cheesing the tournaments with kills made trying to earn champions feel pointless.

>> No.21865133

>>21864547
timeline is a bit off i think, kill point limits were added to cr cup after vsaikyou s3.

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>>21865133
my bad, have a map

>> No.21866726

>>21865742
thanks, though i know several na pros i watch would disagree with alelu

>> No.21867190

>>21866726
Which landmarks?

>> No.21867329

>>21865742
What do these mean? SS is several purple armor with golden weapons?

>> No.21867476

>>21867329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgd5l7gZnjA

>> No.21868162

>>21867476
Thanks. So it's based on how easy it is to rotate from the landing spot, to get a scan, to craft, surrounding teams, terrain covers and loot. In other words, most anons here likely don't know enough to tell which spots are good or bad

>> No.21868568

>>21868162
Most anons here likely don't know their nose from their ass. Treat their takes like the landmarks: try and avoid the bad ones and stick to the good ones.

>> No.21868882

>>21868162
its also based heavily on apac n meta, which alelu casts, so it ranks center ring play significantly more than anything else. there's very few teams playing edge ring in apac n right now, na and eu have a lot more.

>> No.21869943

>>21842049
So is geyser the worst landing spot on the entire map? Rotations towards siphon means pushing into multiple teams with highground and pushing into caves means fighting strong teams and slow rotation means getting gatekept in the caves

>> No.21870265

>>21869943
ever landed epi or dome?

>> No.21870483

>>21869943
geyser is fine, there's more rotation options in geyser, including a geyser that gives super easy access to the high ground you were concerned about, than the vast majority of other landmarks.

>> No.21871660

Did Shibuhal ever confirm for sure if there's no pre/after-party?

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