/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>21811341
All is true, anon. However there's just one tiny thing she can't sing

>>21811341
true
kek
true
true
true
can't sing.

>>21811341
>Japan hates her

>>21811341
Too bad she’s esl

>>21811439
mori can sing?
thats new

>doesn't bring in the numbers.
That's really all that matters. You think they were impressed by Mori's wigger rap? You're dumb as your oshi.

males going to be males

these deals come with enjo kosai included
she knows very well how things goes

>Steal Holo EN spot from Milky Queen
>Steal UMG deal from Kiara
Calliope "White Rushia" Mori

>>21811341
ITS ALL YOUR FAULT, ALL OF YOU FUCKING IDIOTS HATING ON HER ALL DAY ALL NIGHT ALL THE FUCKING TIME. SHES SUCH A GEM AND NONE OF YOU WOULD FUCKING LET HER DO ANYTHING WITHOUT RIDICULE I WISH IT WAS HER I WISH IT WAS HER I WISH IT WAS HER

>>21811501
What have they said about her?

> ITS ALL YOUR FAULT, ALL OF YOU FUCKING IDIOTS HATING ON HER ALL DAY ALL NIGHT ALL THE FUCKING TIME. SHES SUCH A GEM AND NONE OF YOU WOULD FUCKING LET HER DO ANYTHING WITHOUT RIDICULE I WISH IT WAS HER I WISH IT WAS HER I WISH IT WAS HER

Nothing for Watame, nothing for Aqua, etc. Basically if you're not dragging in the numbers like Mori or Suisei they're not going to look at you.

>>21811752
>Believing bullshit
Why are you responding

She will if she made her own lyrics. Mori is more superior because she is not lazy and creative. Heck mori even made a fking (lame but okayish) rap from fast food shit. It's hurt but that's what the real world is. . U need to work harder than that.

>>21811777
Aqua isn't even a singer.
You're forgetting that Mori and Suisei are the 2 most musically driven holos in the company.

>>21811341
>Universal Music
>money
>Calli's music makes more money
That's it. No other reason.

>>21811785
>Mori's whole thing is mixing English rap with random Japanese cringe
>She sucks at Japanese
>Chad Kiara is fluent as fuck

>>21811660
but isn't Mori's roomate fat af?

>>21811341
KFP sharts crawling from the woodwork

>>21811605
She raps. Totally different skill requirements.

>Trying to use one of Mori's best friends as a shitpost bludgeon.
You guys are fucking worthless. You can't just accept that you fucking lost, all that shitposting and you realize how utterly worthless your stupid rrats are.
Mori's on top of the world and you're still here in this shithole.

>>21811439
I mean, neither does Mori

>>21811908
Kiara cant even speak proper english at times.

>>21812020
>Mori's on top of the world and you're still here in this shithole.

Literally you right now kek

Cope.

Mori will use your oshi to boost her own popularity repeatedly and then ditch her. She'll maybe let your oshi feature on a single song if she's feeling generous but now she's so far beyond her that she can't be assed to even remember Kiara's name.

>>21811341
>never feeding into drama
Hold on. I am going to LAUGH

> Literally you right now kek

>>21811341
Kiara sings Japanese style pop, a thousand other people do that, and are also, you know, Japanese. Mori, for all her weirdness, is a pretty niche and unique talent. That's why IRyS and Mumei and Bae aren't gonna go anywhere. Gura would have a slight chance but she just doesn't have the work ethic and focus to be a professional musician.

>>21811935
Not skinny, but not fat.

>>21812020
>Mori's best friend
Yeah haha. Imagine repeatedly treating your friends like shit, lying to them, acting like they're a burden to you.

Mori doesn't have friends. She has people she can use to propel her, Kiara was just one of the first

>>21812319
C'mon...

>>21811341
>her music is cute and soulful
pure fucking cope.

>>21812341
Meds.

>>21812341
This is the most pathetic anti shit I have ever seen on this board.

>>21812532
If that's true you're too new and need to go back.

>>21811341
Chicken voice.

>>21812532
>>21812455
Call it anti, call it schizo, but ultimately I'm right.
Mori treats the people she meets up offline with for "drankies" with more respect than she ever treated Kiara. Kiara is like a distant memory at this point

>>21812638
go back to discord

>>21811341
Nah, the deal is just marketing for cover and their character "Mori Calliope" who in reality isn't an idol, doesn't like vtubing, and is only focused on her own career as a shitty wigger rap musician. This deal wouldn't be good for actual vtuber and idols like Kiara or Gura.

>>21812638
Ah, you are a seething KFPfag who cant take that Calli got the contract and not her. Okay, I gotcha.

>>21812831
Can you prove it wrong though? Kiara isn't worthy to call herself a "friend". She's less popular than vshojo, she's not funny and only capable of leeching off of Mori who is more successful in every way.

>>21811341
they will never sign an ESL to become an internationally famous artist.
it was your fault kfp. you did this. accent training is a thing and could've saved her but you guys accepted her chicken voice instead.

>>21811341
Normies aren't ready for idols.

>>21811439
>can't
u wish faggot

>>21812954
>become an internationally famous artist.
Do deadbraps actually believe that's what's happening here?

Seriously, how in the fuck do people watch Kiara. I want to stab my eyes out after watching her for more than 2 minutes. She's literally unwatchable, horrible.

>>21812638
Kiara leaving Japan was a good thing

>>21811341
Kiara is my oshi but come on anon. She barely makes original songs and from her own confession they don't work well enough...
I know you're probably just baiting but at least pick an Holo with an actual active music career...

>>21813144
Yeah Kiara doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside Mori. Mori puts in a ton of effort to make everything possible, meanwhile Kiara is just a leech. Mori realized this a long time ago which is why they pretty much don't talk anymore

>>21811825
I'd put watame instead of Mori

>>21811777
Numbers aren't all they are looking at here, or else gura would have been a first draft pick. You can hate mori and think she's shit, but besides the numbers, she's been producing music for a long time, understands the process, constantly meets deadlines, and has already put out an full album and two EPs on top of singles and covers, not counting what her roommate has done prior. Barely anybody else in holo has done that, and they know she will provide a return on investment.

>>21813211
Mori is just as bad. She's cringy nails-on-a-chalkboard. Literally unwatchable. She's not as viscerally repulsive as Kiara, but still horrible and unwatchable.

Even back when I watched Hololive, I never watched those two.

>>21812309
What Mori has is a solid idea of her preferred genre and enough skillset to keep pushing for it, she has a musical identity that distinguishes her from others. It doesn't mean she's the best rapper or best singer, but she's VERY distinctive. Hell, I've seen plenty of deadbeat chuubas (Enna included) that absolutely mog Mori in the singing department. Workaholic autism aside, Mori also writes her own lyrics and knows people within the Japanese music scene despite her less than stellar Japanese, and that speeds up the process of making new songs because she does the legwork herself instead of waiting for Cover. And it's not just Mori, Myth is a highly independent generation with their own personal goals and it shows with Kiara's outreach crosscompany and Ame's own 3D projects. I can see them all retiring to background industry roles in 5-10 years.

For Irys, She has decades of experience all she needs is some help freeing up her restrictions and obligations as a vsinger give her enough creative freedom to write and plan her own songs in the style she wants. Here Comes Hope is just screams "Irys" despite being her first time singing rock songs. If she leans more to that direction I'm betting we'll get more something more unique in the future.
Bae is a good singer too, but she needs to find her own "style" to make her stand out. So far so good since her cover and orisong choices lean towards upbeat dance music. It's gonna be popular with the keeds, I bet.
And Ollie, she's not exactly the best singer in her generation or her branch, but she has a stylistic idea of what she wants to do and a skillset to pull it off decently. Electro swing is fun to listen to and she's already spec'd to rap. She just doesn't have the industry connections though, but I'm sure that's what Hololive (And Mori/Reine if they're willing to share) are for.

>>21812638
>He hasn't see the steamable of Mori openly crying and admiting she fucked up with Kiara because she's an autist
>He hasn't watch her totsumachi where she invited herself to visit Kiara in June
At least keep yourself up to date, sis. If anything, nowadays Kiara is the one that wants to forget about Mori. She look at how she brought up the King incident again.

>>21813193
Unironically yes.
If you watch streams of their time together and their collabs together, you'll see that Mori always treated her like an autistic child. Scolding her for the same jokes she found funny when people like Ollie said them. Mori never respected Kiara and never will.

>>21813270
Isn't Watame's music signed under Watame instead of Cover Corp?
Mori getting that music label rises all boats though. She won't stop making collab songs, especially musically inclined holos like Watame and they too will get a piece of the pie.

>>21813438
>Mori never respected Kiara and never will.
WRONG. Do you people even watch streams ? She said how much she respects Kiara in her member stream. That even made her emotional. If anything she found her annoying because yeah, Kiara is kind difficult to deal with but this has nothing to do with not respecting her.

>>21813193
Kiara leaving Japan was a fucking disaster. There's nobody she can collab with in europe and she doesn't have access to the jp hololive studio anymore.

>>21813399
She shouldn't apologize. Kiara isn't worthy of her time. Mori is the better streamer which is why she has more subscribers and makes more money. Kiara is hardly worthy of groveling at her feet.

>>21812046
It’s almost like she’s ESL, who would’ve thunk.

>>21813606
>She respects her so much that she'll publicly shittalk her and only mention how "grateful" she is in paywalled streams
Dyrbi??

>>21813583
>She won't stop making collab songs, especially musically inclined holos like Watame and they too will get a piece of the pie.
This is important to note. UMG isn't just arbitrarily signing suisei and mori and calling it a day. More will likely get signed if this goes well.

>>21813399
post the streamable

>>21813627
Where's my fucking EU Holos? If HoloEN is less autistic with collabs Kiara could've made friends. Honestly I hope indies and small corpos get more exposure and thus more bargaining power versus Hololive.
It's not like it means anything though because as far as I recall there are no good eurochuubas that vibe well with Kiara.

>>21813606
All sympathy I got for mori disappeared when she lied about listening to kiara's cover.
On one side you have what she did, on the other side you have what she said. I'm more inclined to judge with the former than the latter.

>>21813783
Here you go Anon https://streamable.com/6qb5z6

>>21813770
Retard. The talents are more open and themselves during membership streams. Don't ask me what go through Mori's head, she's turbo autist but what she said was sincere.

>>21813927
I don't disagree they're more open but the fact that she's only willing to express even the slightest interest in Kiara during a stream that's privated to most of the people watching her, that says a lot about her.

>>21813833
That's fair. I was also disapointed a couple of times by how little fucks she gave about Kiara. There was also the time she wouldn't even listen to heart challenger once. That shit was weird.
Anyway I personally think she realized what she did was bad. Now she's trying to make up for that.

>>21814036
Nah. She just realized that people were calling her out for it. There's no love lost between the two. Kiara needed Mori, Mori didn't need Kiara.

>>21814096
So you're saying it was fake crying ? I didn't know Mori could act that well

>>21813852
>I was just too self absorbed and ignored her for too long
Deadcucks will defend this.

>>21814154
Yes. Crocodile tears solely to save face. Anyone can cry if they want to. It doesn't even sound like she's really crying. It's pretty easy to fake crying when you can't see her face

>>21814218
It was a membership stream aka with her fans and not public space. It's not a PR move because that kind of content isn't supposed to be public anyway.

>>21811341
I wish Kiara would branch out and drop the chicken voice as well. Doesn't really seem like she wants to expand her audience.

>>21814218
First of
>It doesn't even sound like she's really crying
Ogey
What's the point of fake crying during a membership stream if the goal is to save face publicly ?
That stuff will never leave her fanbase and /here/ through streamable. And it's only here because it was unexpected of here. What you're saying makes 0 sense

>>21814036
Now, unfortunately, the question isn't really to know if she's genuine or not, but if kiara wants to even have something to do with her. If I was her, I'd just throw her away and only talk to her in the obligatory collabs.

>>21814189
I ghosted people I wanted to stay close to, so I understand her. Not saying it's a good thing but it can happen

>>21812638
Exactly.

>>21811341
>idol past
i saw those videos, she was definitely not an idol kek

>>21813319
This. I don't care for Mori either but from a professional standpoint she just makes the most sense to sign on.

>>21811341
Kiara's my oshi and I'm glad she didn't get the deal because I don't want a (((record label))) anywhere fucking near her. She doesn't need those hooknosed parasites working her like a slave and stealing her money. Her music is successful without them.

>>21814417
Yep, like I said nowadays it's Kiara that seems like she doesn't want to deal with Mori. And it's understandable. But deep down I want Kiara to forgive the other retard so they can make up.

KFP, I think you're Oshi is honestly a solid 7/10 and can easily become 10/10

and it wouldnt even be hard, just some minor edits.

>drop the high-pitch pekora-imitating voice
Her normal voice is smooth as butter.
>take singing lessons
shes not even a bad singer, but she needs training from a vocal coach. a few lessons and she could improve a lot.

thats it. and I'd probably switch oshis. shes already a great streamer, and has come a long way. plus she streams often, collabs often, and once 3D comes out, will be the strongest idol from EN.

>>21814632
>music label bad because muh corporate
>watching hololive
Is your brain made of mud or something?

>>21814670
Can't vouch for this myself, but I've heard it said that she's already a good singer but she deliberate does the chimkin voice even while singing, which fucks her up. So fixing the voice may fix the singing too.

>>21814632
Post badge """KFP"""
If it says less than 1 year your opinion doesn't count.

>>21814729
>music label bad because muh corporate
No. They aren't bad because muh corporate. They're bad for an entirely different (((reason))).

>>21814836
>implying your next response wouldn't be "i bet you faked it using inspect element"
lol

The record deal is not a reward for being a nice little idol.
They made the deal with Calli because she has made whole albums. Albums that sell.
Kiara does not have even one album, and she has fewer original songs.
That's the end of the story, it's not about deserving, it's about who is going to bring more money.

>>21811341
nobody cares,accept reality KFPiss

i like kiara better and shes very hardworking when it comes to being an idol but whether you like her or not calli has focused way more on her music

thats why she got the deal

>>21811341
She hates men.

>>21816192

>>21816107
Kiara has amazing direction to her cover songs though. She really brought Goodbye Sengan to Life. Her collab songs Whatever and Chocolat were full of soul, not to mention she rewards fans with work. I like her a lot too.

But yeah, you probably need a library of original songs to even consider getting a signed deal.

>>21816317
Anon someone dug up her past in Twitter or something apparently she's one of those feminist hating men.

>>21816471
Why does kiara talk to her chat like they're mentally retarded children? Honest question. I've never seen another vtuber talk to their chat like that.

Does Nijisanji have more music industry connections or something along that train of thought? They've had much more success signing artists onto major labels with comparable talent and lower per person original output than Suisei or Mori.

Do you really think Eminem, Justin Bieber, Billie Eilish deserve to have so much money?
Do you think music producers go aroung giving deals only to hard-working, creative people with integrity?

>>21812896
Idiot, We KFP are usually positive about Mori, she is still my 2nd favorite even after the comdom/lean ark so dont blame us for the hate she gets you braindead faggot

>>21812954
wasnt her accent okay though? i am an ESL myself so i dont have anything to raise her, aside from Kiwawa being cute

>>21816765
She's German and it's funny. Plus Kiara herself is feisty and together it makes her one interesting brew of a person. People who dislike her (barring the voice complaints) are probably ESL because how things get mistranslated twice, from Kiara's German mind, to the spoken English, and into whatever non-English native language the listener has.

I'm not even KFP and I only occasionally watch her.

>Sora is signed at Victor Entertainement
>Mori is signed at EMI
The 2 biggest idols are the only ones to have a record deal within Hololive. Really makes you think.

>>21814022
The worst about this is that you re saying this thing seriously, how disconnected from reality can a person be?

>>21817162
She's not feisty, she's psychotic. This is a mentally ill person. She's completely unwatchable cringe and garbage.
>Kiara's German mind
Western people know this type of woman well. Apparently japanese are unacquainted. She's a psycho

>>21816655
Stop trying to twist the narrative. What she says on those tweet makes her a low self esteem femcelf not a man hating feminist.

Wtf anon, just when she started her redemption arc you want her to sign a contract to a company that will steal all SOVL from her?

>>21817162
yeah i lived in germany for a bit and their bluntness can throw you off if youre not used to it

>>21816471
hopefully this pushes her to strive for new heights, i think she can make it there if she gets some more original songs/covers

another thing about calli that i think another anon brought up is that calli supports a pretty niche area in j-rap. kiara has to compete w/ all the other pure singers in hololive which makes it harder to stand out.

>>21812341
She has friends. Connor, for example.

>>21816655
all girls have had trouble with men. I'm not gonna take some singular comment venting about her dissatisfaction with males in her life on twitter, as her revealing she lividly despises every single male human on earth.

Kiara, behind layers of excessive gay, has slipped clues she is obviously heterosexual, but more critically, Kiara shows a maturity in where she cares about personality over looks.

it doesnt matter if your male, as long as your soul is good, Kiara will like you. She has probably been the victim of harassment from men (she has - iykyk), but on her streams, she has shown appreciation constantly of good-hearted men.

e.g samwise, yagoo, anime boys, ouro krono.

>>21816192
And that's a good thing!

>>21813319
mori doesnt produce music

>>21817948
She's bi, dude. Just accept it. She still likes men, just as you say. She likes girls too. You don't have to be pathetic about it and go "SHE'S OBVIOUSLY HETERO", that just makes you look desperate to convince yourself.

>>21816192
I honestly don't mind that.
t. KFP

>>21817162
I would say it's quite the opposite, ESL are usually not that critical about how chuubas convey their words since they lack a lot of the subtleness of language. Unless you are a clipnigger peasant, but their opinions are usually shit due to merely watching clips
t. ESL and KFP

>>21816765
She doesn't always does it. Just sometimes because she's roleplaying as the boss of a bunch of chickens.

Not a single one of you watch her streams
Honestly i think its better if mori just gets away from Kiara once and for all considering shes being proven again and again shes not a good friend
I don't hate mori, and i doubt Kiara does, but even she acknowledges all of this is her fault and its way too late to get Kiara as happy to be around her as she was back in early 2021. She really could only finally see Kiara's worth after literally everyone praising her for giving her best on stage while mori couldn't give her the time of the day for the past 2 years, being an absolute asshole for no fucking reason for half of this period and only mellowing out recently, and even after that it was too late.
Again, i don't hate mori, but this is all her fault

>>21818417
Watching Kiara for more than 30 seconds makes me want to put a bullet in my head.

>>21816765
Chat is retarded though. Every throng of people is retarded, lowest common denominator.

>>21818563
I dont care about the music label either im happy with kiaras songs the way they are without some corpo snakes backing her*

>>21817329
>She's not feisty, she's psychotic. This is a mentally ill person.
>t. schizo projecting his own mental illness
top kek

>>21818598
You should do that then.

>>21818627
I agree that Kiara's chat is retarded. They'd have to be.
>>21818836
I do everything in my power to avoid watching Kiara.

>>21811439
Fpbp

>>21818930
go eat an egg

>>21818167
im not desperate, but Im different. Im not lenient on giving girls the lesbian pass, its too easy for them. I say a women is a lesbian when she openly has a relationship with a girl.

if shes lesbian, so is Ollie, IRyS and every other girl in hololive who plays the dumb-horny act when something lewd happens for shits and giggles.

If I get evidence from her past life she actually fucked other girls, or had relationships, I will concede immediately, because thats definitely gay.

Weirdly tho, I've heard nothing about her having a bf so I can't call her straight either.

So for her, her case is undetermined, and she could be either. so I would only call her bisexual, because her circumstances are specific.

>>21818598
>>21818930
Don't lie you fucking autist. You probably have a membership just to schizopost on global and tune into her every stream to scream about how much you hate her. You're in a fucking split thread about her. Not fooling anyone, not even yourself.

>>21818930
>I agree that Kiara's chat is retarded. They'd have to be.
Every chat is retarded though. At least every chat with mroe than 100 people.

Did you really come running to make a split because you kept getting btfo and were getting ignored now that the chumbuds starting having their karaoke? You've been stewing in your own seethe since Mori's 3D stream, over 12 hours nigger!

>>21819137
No I don't. I honestly cannot understand how the fuck people watch Kiara. It blows my mind that anyone could watch such an obviously mentally ill person.

You realize that my opinion is not exactly unique? When the hololive girls debuted, my opinion was actually the standard opinion. Nobody liked Kiara, aside from a few schizophrenic people. Everyone thought she was terrible.

The issue is that you've been sitting in the hololive global thread, where your opinions are carefully cultivated and managed. So over time they've managed to shift your opinions of kiara. I am not so easily influenced, for me she's absolutely terrible.

>>21811935
Like the Jew money can't buy some hardcore plastic surgery? Mori will be a 20/10 onahole cocksleeve bombshell this time next year.

>>21819355
>Everyone thought she was terrible.
Your bait needs work

>>21819355
The pot calling the kettle black. Antis are mentally ill. Normal people just avoid watching or learning about youtubers they hate.
You, on the other hand, are clearly obsessed with Kiara.

>>21819355
Mentally ill people are fun to watch, bro. They can cook up ideas and trains of thoughts sane people can't even imagine. Plus you're watching vtubers, they're all mentally ill except maybe Petra.

>>21819355
>shes mentally ill
Sounds like projection retard. You're on a split about her, seething and coping about how nobody likes her to maybe the last 2 or 3 deranged retards like you. Look in the mirror faggot. You've reclined not her.
>I'm not so easily influenced
Most mentally ill people like you very rarely are.

>>21819355
Holy fuck there has never been rent freer than this.

>>21819889
Kiara schizos have never been more pathetic than they have in recent times.

>>21814633
>I want Kiara to forgive the other retard so they can make up.
You do know these people, that is Kiara and Mori, are well-adjusted adults who can communicate and discuss things, anon?
You're not really over here thinking Kiara is holding a grudge and Mori is scared to approach her for a conversation, like they're in fucking 8th year or some shit right?
You're not that retarded.

>>21813583
>Watame leeching from Mori again

>>21821305
Did you actually watch the streamable of Mori saying she wish she had messaged Kiara more while crying, nigger? Her fucking chat had to make her realize it's not too late.
Being an adult doesn't make you well adjusted. If you watch streams you know none of those 2 are.
Mori is a social autist that kills herself slowly through alcoholism. Kiara is someone that don't trust people, has low self esteem and unironically give up on relationships to become a cat lady.
So shut the fuck up and go watch streams if you're bored.

>>21811439
FPBP

>>21811341
If she used her real voice her singing would have a greater appeal.

>>21814189
This is basically what most of the autists on this site do to everyone worth a damn in their life, except she actually has far more excuses for it and the courage to try to make things right. People like Mori because she's like us but growing and improving all the time.

Topic reminded me of Kiara's watchalong for Watame's solo live and she didn't know any of the songs besides Cloudy Sheep.

>>21824098
I thought she got much better at singing? I haven't been able to watch her much recently but apparently she's gotten much more comfortable with her singing? Anyways, I don't know why this obvious bait thread got this many replies.

>>21811341
Let me be very clear, kiara is not a musician , Mori is. Kiara is not in it to make good music, she just want to be an "idol", her idol persona is more important than singing in a way that makes music sound good.

Her skill is singing is better than most in HoloEN , but really id rather listen to anyone else than Kiara because her character voice she choose is like nails on chalkboard.

No one is going to sign her with that chicken voice, everyone can see the emperor has no clothes. The fake chicken, fake pseudo pekora voice is just really bad and isnt suited to making good music.

>>21827982
First off, why are you guys still acting like UMG cares about the actual talent pr "character voice"? They care about how much money and views the person gets. If they cared about the talent or voice then Suisei would've already been signed to the Japanese branch long ago. I'm not trying to call Mori talentless or a bad singer, it's just that she is far more popular than anybody else in hololive when it comes to music.

>>21811456
“STOP CALLING ME BOTTOM LEFT YOU GUYS ”

>>21828200
I laugh when people think this is going to be great for everyone in Hololive and bring a bunch of producers that'll want to check out the other girls. It's basically just good for Mori and maybe Suisei.

>>21828407
Nah, you don't really know what time of person Suisei is if you think it will be good for her, she's not the type of person to sign onto something like UMG.

>>21828481
She talked about it and said she wasn't sure if it was something she wanted to do. Also it's not really relevant if she signs or not when she's still linked with Mori on the music. It still brings her attention.

>>21812638
>Mori treats the people she meets up offline with for "drankies" with
You realize this INCLUDES Kiara right, retard?

>>21827859
And? I love Watame and I don't know all her music.

>>21827882
She has

>>21828646
Kiara hates drinks.

>>21821305
>Well adjusted
Roru
Rumao
Kiara dropped out of school to move to Japan and be an idol before being traumatised and Mori left her entire life in America including her Masters degree behind to try be an underground rapper in Japan while not speaking japanese. The closest to a normal person in Myth is Ina and she’s a hikki who lost a check in her trash and lives with her parents despite being loaded.

>>21827882
She has. But trying to balance your character voice with good singing is not an easy thing to do and Kiara doesn't really succeed at that. Whenever she drops the chicken voice for singing it sounds really fucking good but she's way too bullheaded to drop it. I really hope she gets singing lessons to at least manage to sound good with the chicken voice.

>>21829245
They both live on their own and have functioning careers in their 20s.
Sounds well-adjusted to me.

>>21829245
At least the other ENs actually live alone. Ina literally lives in a mountain of trash that her mother has to clean because she can't herself. Not to mention she passes out in the middle of rooms leading to her mother having carry her back to her room like a fucking baby.

>>21811341
you're forgetting one thing
>doesn't have yab dirt on her or an easily manipulated personality

>>21828960
The idea of saying someone is a great singer and idol then having a watchalong when you know part of one song out of a dozen is amusing. May as well just say she hasn't listened to her music.

>>21828981
Yet they still went out together multiple times lmao

>>21823516
I mean, the two of them are talking and on good terms, but I don't think it will ever be the same. As you said, Kiara doesn't trust people. This is the problem with Kiara, if you make her give up on you, she won't bounce back. She said once that old friends and acquaitances talk to her sometimes trying to catch up and rekindle a friendship but she never gives any of these people the time of the day because she doesn't trust that any of these people have actual interest on her or even good intentions. She might be on amicable terms with Mori and everything, but thats the thing, this is the place Kiara created for Mori when she gave up on her because they are coworkers and friends, but she will never go back to being as enamored, trusting and loving towards Mori as she was in Japan.

>>21829500
>May as well just say she hasn't listened to her music.
Anyone with an room temperature IQ noticed that and she herself said she couldn't listen to all her music but what's so bad about that? You can say someone is talented and a good performer without actually knowing all their music.

>>21829500
Am I a schizo? Because I very well remember her knowing the lyrics to a couple of Watame's songs.

>>21811439

This. The only thing keeping her from being the worst of Myth is Ame being so bad at singing.

Of Myth, the one that sings the best is Gura by far. The only reason Calli got it is she raps, which might as well be poetry for all the "singing" it entails.

As for Kiara, saying she's not the cause of drama let alone that she handles it well has to be one of the biggest examples of 0/10 level trolling. She's the epitome of drama causer / can't take it. She's literally gone onto clippers channels and cried saying "You're misquoting me" when it's literally a clip of her words showing how drama filled she is.

>>21829816
You aren't, the other anon just got confused probably. Kiara said that she wasn't able to listen to some of Watame's newer songs yet and that she would listen to the two new songs before the live happened. This somehow got twisted into "Kiara never listened to a single Watame song".

>>21829774
I get the same vibes from her. She still treats Mori with respect and care but she'll never go back to being the friend she used to be. Mori really doesn't deserve Kiara's friendship.

>>21811605

Rapping isn't singing, it's talking to a beat. She's pretty low on the skills of actually singing. Her vocal skills basically fall into about a 1 1/2 octave range before she struggles.

>>21828200
Suisei would have turned them down

>>21827882
She's much better now than she was back then, also doesn't have the shitty audio settings that make her sound ahead or behind the audio for viewers but not for her.

>>21829468
she bought the house they're in and pays for everything

>>21829879
None of the "drama" Kiara caused is on the same level as the entire lean shit or the more recent black twitter/twittertranny seethe.

>>21829879
The worst Myth will always be Mori for the sole fact that she doesn't give a fuck about hololive. Nobody comes close, not even Sana.

>>21812074

Kiara has been riding Mori's coattails since the beginning. Kiara basically forced the Takamori BS because she couldn't hack it on her own and needed someone to cling to. As soon as she got a bit of confidence (still the bottom performer of Myth) she ditched Mori like a side piece.

>>21830123
Sure as hell doesn't take care of it then, she's pretty much being used as a money dispenser by her parents because she feels like she isn't ready to actually leave the house and live on her own.

>>21829879
>She's the epitome of drama causer
Please list all the drama Kiara caused schizochama

>>21830220
Nigga get your rrats updated, we're not in 2020 anymore.

>>21811341
This thread feels like we're back in 2020 with these specific Kiara and Mori complaints. Does anybody here actually watch streams?

>>21830262
pretty normal for a 2nd gen

>>21830438
No. We're all jealous woman in here who likes to gossip all day.

>>21814189
Let's be honest, Kiara does this shit too, and has openly admitted in streams that she's been doing shit like that to her longtime real life friends over and over.

Except she's not even apologetic. She owns it and just wants to ignore everyone and pet cats and watch netflix until she is in the mood to vacation again and needs some convenient company.

She would have done the same thing to Mori, eventually.

>>21830438
>Does anybody here actually watch streams?
What do you fucking think retard?

>>21830438
"""People""" will always hate Myth because it was the carry over of the pre-EN doomposting sentiments and people refused to change their minds.

>>21830523
Uwaaa.... Imagine how many gossip girls could be posting in this thread... My own menhere gf...

>>21830176
>None of the "drama" Kiara caused is on the same level
Lol wut? yes it is
The only difference is one happened on a more public form but it always boils to "obnoxiously loud retards being angry at them for silly ass reasons that will forget in about a week"

>>21830613
Now that I think about it, there's been multiple blatant myth bait threads for every single myth member today that gets over 200 replies, does that count as unity?

>>21811935
>>21812319
She slimmed down alot at one point and looked great. Then she gained it all back. I think it's the alcohol and poor diet from stress and massive workload.

>>21830641
They probably all smell and don't understand basic human interaction
Would really to date a schizo NEET who's pussy is caked in semega?

>>21813320

This. Kiara and Calli are the bottom of the bunch in EN. There are only a few worse than them in all of Hololive.

Kiara is a whiny little self-centered child and Calli is just a cringe autist who has fans who are equally as autistic. They think she's cute and playing a role, but nah that's just her. There's a reason she's such an alcoholic and it's to cope with that.


Also, what's with all the people saying either of them work so hard? They literally do a few streams of video games and that's about it. Hell, if you saw the smallest bit of alt calli's social media you'd see how much she's either working on alt Calli stuff or out partying it up with Connor and those other trash taste assholes.

I really like Kiara and hate Mori just like every reasonable anon in here. But she doesn't have the musical output Mori has (even if it is 90% shit). So she doesn't really deserves the deal desu. I know the 3D situation is putting a halt to her music production so that can change at any moment.

>>21830641
If a woman is a Mori anti, she's probably a vtuber.
If a woman is a Kiara anti, she's probably not a vtuber.
If a woman is a council anti, she's DEFINITELY a vtuber.
Those are the rules.

>>21813438

So treated her like she acted then. Kiara always sits there trying to be the center of attention. She always interjects herself in everything even if it has nothing to do with her in colabs. I don't get why anyone, let alone the girls she colabs with, likes that kind of person.

>>21830697
No? Take the off collab "drama" for example, that shit was literally over in not even a day and only two split threads were created here. Literally nobody outside of here cared and just treated it as a miscommunication issue which it was. Kiara has had randoms on twitter who tried to cancel her for saying nigga, but those tweets got barely any traction, compared to the person who fabricated the Mori shit which got over 2000 retweets and caused her to trend on twitter for a bit, it even leaked onto her roommate with people posting pictures of her parents.

>>21813794

You'd think you'd be intelligent enough to put 2 and 2 together and realize that if she's having trouble fitting in everywhere, that it isn't the others that are the problem, but her.

She's got a self-centered whiny brat personality; of course people don't want anything to do with that.

>Mori antis can't stop using other holos as meat shields

Why am I not surprised?

>>21830925
> I don't get why anyone, let alone the girls she colabs with, likes that kind of person
Because they are not schizophrenic anon.

>chickenshits remain absolutely seething to this day that no one likes their dime store whore
sad

>>21811341
>europe debuff
>annoying voice
>always makes it about herself
>is condescending to others specially her genmates

Nice try kfp. Sage.

>>21831124
Legenday cope

>Antis falseflagging as KFP

UNITY forever. Fuck antis.

>>21811995
>rapping
>skill
Oh no no no

>>21830438
That's because Mori and Kiara antis are permanently stuck in the past, instead of coming up with new material they recycle old shitposts.
>B-but it still applies to this d-day
Stop being lazy and come up with something new, antis and shitposters these days have gotten lazy. You niggers would be heavily shamed by the early /jp/ shitposters.

>>21831070
She vibes with other vtubers outside of hololive, but they aren't euros.

>>21821305

Well adjusted? Kiara is an egomaniac and Mori is a raging alcoholic. Neither of those are well adjusted people. Just because they're in their 30's doesn't mean they're emotionally mature in the least.

>>21831370
Look in a Mirror. Your delusion is distorting reality.

>>21821305
>Kiara and Mori, are well-adjusted adults
ahahahahahahahahahahahahah

>>21831370
>The pot calling the kettle black
KEK

reading this thread was a mistake

>Some screeching SEANigger
>Well adjusted person
Pick one

Mori antis and Kiara antis being the most pathetic faggots in this board is a constant that'll never cease to exist.

>>21830211
What the hell did Sana do wrong? I get she's taken two massive breaks because of a dog's death and a literal broken back, but what of hers screams "I don't care about Hololive?"

Hell, I'd say she's one of the ones that cares about it the most; doing things for them behind the scenes as well as marathon streaming popular content. She tries to be present for literally everyone's birthday as well as Council group colabs even when she was literally mending from a broken back.

>>21811341
They came to her first, but she said keep your shekels and asked them about wooden doors.

>>21830262
She's literally talks about looking for a new office quite often.

Also, if you're going to be the money dispenser for your family, the least they can do is clean up for you in return.

>>21831763
There's nothing wrong with Sana. She's an absolute sweetheart. I just put her there because some retards like to shit on her for the exact same reasons you stated.

>>21831105
How is it schitzophrenic to not want to be talked over, interrupted, and stepped in front of constantly be an egomaniac again?

The copium is strong today eh?

This thread is gay

>>21831323

Oh you mean people looking for that Hololive boost? Yeah, imagine them wanting to attach to someone from THE biggest Vtuber company out there.

>>21832078
>The copium is strong today eh?
Yeah you should stop.

>>21832078
Anon you should stop projecting.

>>21830987
Yes? my point being that any ""drama"" concerning either of them is usually is some overblown bullshit that no one actually cares about being pushed/forced by people who already dislike them
Just replace Mori and twitter with Kiara and discord/kiwifarms and it's the exact same shit
Like, even taking the recent twitter shit into the consideration the guy who originally posted it was some indog nijinigger and the majority of people who interacted with it either:
A) Already disliked her and used it to try legitimize their hate or B) have zero fucking what a vtuber even is and just find it funny to dunk on the song
Both groups are too retarded to do something as simple as check her youtube channel and see the song wasn't new nor was it made by "Mori". To put it into perceptive how irrelevant it was, the fake outrage didn't even last a full 48 hours because it immediately got drowned out by positive support as her birthday festivities started

>>21816765
Ina does the same thing even more blatantly.

>>21832081
Man holofes proved to me that Kiara really is the best overall performer of hololive. She might not ecxell in anything specific, but she can put on a show that puts her senpais to shame

>>21816765
Name one vtuber that doesn't treat chat as the retards.
Which they should,because chat is overwhelming autistic.

>>21830839
>>21830925
>>21831070
>>21831370
>>21832078
Kiara's living a real life Cinderella story and she's so beloved within Hololive that multiple chuubas are planning to visit her in Europe. Seethe and stew in your jealousy for eternity.

>>21832340
The moment these antis bandwagonned Twitter is the moment they should be shamed out of 4chan.

>>21833039
Shit, name one streamer with an audience above 100 people that doesn't talk to their chat like they're retarded
You can't because that many people in a group on the internet causes the collective IQ to drop to -3

>>21833100
Summer will unlock Ame route, Reine route, and Calli route.
Possibly IRyS if she actually joins calli in coming to europe? Although I think if she is going to do dokomi she might prefer doing it from her standard setup in nihon

>>21831763
>muh doggrino
shut the fuck up. no amount of fuckery is going to make up for being a lazy selfish bitch

>>21833237
Irys is tied down by japanese dentists, sorry.

>>21831763
Wait, I'm still on 'back hort', when did we go from that to her back being literally broken? Did she get hit by a fucking car or something?

>>21833237
>Mumei
>Ina
>Flare
>Nene
Not specifically in summer but add them to the list too. Kiara is really loved and no amount of seething is gonna change that.

>>21831124
>dime store whore
No one is talking about your mother schizo

>>21833736
HOLY BASED

>>21811439
This didn't stop Himawari from getting a music contract

>>21833621

>>21812046
>She is bad at speaking x language at times that means she is also bad at speaking y language at times
Anon do your logic reps

>>21813144
>Stabbing my eyes out
>Not the ears

>>21816192
>>21816655
Did you guys mix up Kiara with Kronii?

>>21811341
She lacks one important thing. Talent

>>21811752
Do your reps. There's a reason why Nips like Mori over her despite Kiara having better japanese.
Kiara's an actual whore.

>>21812046
english is kinda retarded tho

Come to think of it has Kiara ever actually talked about wanting a label to pick her up? She dreamed of being an idol but that’s not the same thing necessarily l.

>>21811341
>Selfish cunt
>SJW
>Annoying voice
>Fans are literally cancer
>Whore
Yeah, how about NO

>>21843583
This thread isn't about selen you schizo

>>21844433
Yes that's why I described Kiara, KFPcuck

>>21844504
Really? because you seemed to describe female NijiEN members

>>21845186
>le holocope
Why can't KFPs deal with any form criticism? Your chickenwhore is exactly what I described and you KFP cultists make her even worse kek

>>21831594
>ever reading a thread

okay egg, but does kiara want to be signed to a label or does she have dreams that are different from moris?

>>21812319
American detected.

>>21811341
1) This isn't a "Only one person can get it" thing; If anything this makes it likely other Holos will follow suit
2) When has she ever indicated she sees herself as a music maker or seeks towards being one?
3) Define "idol".

Maybe if Kiara was actually working hard and making connections instead of watching netflix and doing 7 hour streams, maybe she would get it. But you know, More Kiara for me. She will get her chance to shine.

>>21839353
She was my oshi before I found about that lmao

>>21811341
Kiara wants to stay an idol, not graduate for a singing career

>>21828646
have you seen how apeshit kiara goes on the concept of drinking? daddy issues much. While not impossible I seriously doubt she'd drink with calli, much less considering calli wouldnt bother to go drink with non-wigger friends

>>21848839
What's up with Kiara not wanting to drink ? For Gura I understand considering her past but I have no idea where that comes from for chimkin

>>21844504
Don't use my oshi to shitpost, retard

>>21833213
Asmongold

>>21831070
>self-centered whiny brat personality
H-hot

>>21811935
Enough to keep the mask on covering her disgusting triple chin when sucking TT micropenises

>>21849265
She shares my own reasons: she doesn't like the taste and doesn't like what it does to people. I'll never understand putting that shit in your body.

>>21811341
What deal?

>>21839353
Nigga, 5ch makes fun of the condom money superchat too.

>>21849265
>What's up with Kiara not wanting to drink ?
Alcohol is degenerate and makes people retarded and frequently kills them. She's too smart to drink stupid juice.

>>21811825
What about Irys the Vsinger? Mori's music is 100% hot garbage. How do people even like that shit?

>>21839353
what did he mean by this?

>>21833621
>Flare
>Nene
She still has to lure in those two big time to get them get up their asses and get passports to travel. Once Japan opens again, Kiara will always be the one to take initiative to visit them.

Mori is only interested in money, not her fans, no the culture, nothing.

This makes her easy to control with a music contract. Is it the numbers? No, because Gura. Is it stage presence? No, because Kiara. Is it vocal quality? No, because Irys.

All this points to a shit contract where she'll see maybe a dollar for every 100 her label sees. Instead of Mori paying someone for a song that she just shits words into, Universal will be doing it instead, with the bonus of her not being able to talk about how woe is me from not being able to make "her" music anymore. Maybe her Cover contract has a bunch of loopholes to let her roommate bleat on stream, but the jew lawyers at Universal will make sure she only has positive things to say.

She'll trade up from her alcohol problem for cocaine or maybe heroin and there will be a hotel room incident and she will make the final graduation. Hooray!

Mori, as much as you seethe about it, is primarily a music creator
Kiara is primarily a music performer
That's like saying Kiara should get a contract for doing art when she can draw but it's not her focus