/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>21780100
Wait... Did she just make a graduation announcement? Then end of a life.

>>21780303
>Joins Universal Japan as Calliope Mori
>Is she graduating?
You guys can't be this retarded...

>>21780100
was it only mori or both mori and sui as a unit?
I haven't checked out the stream

What benefit does she get from signing to a company outside of cover? She already has outreach and an audience. Is it just to say she's on a major label even though they're going to jew her out of profit?

>>21780100
JESAS
Mori's more of a VSinger than IRyS.

>>21780476
Just Mori. Sui's going to Toy's Factory with Inotac

>>21780646
International distribution and promotion
Irrelevant in the time of the internet, really, but it does legitimise her as an artist and may open the doors to some artists. Kuzuha is also signed to universal, btw.

>>21781005
Who the fun is kuzuha

>>21780646
only benifit is making a milestone and exposure. And Cover gets more profits/sponsors?
Heck you might see hololive on /tv/ now.

Doesn't matter to me because I won't be watching/listening.

>>21780100
>Giving Jews a 70% cut and total control of your works to get slightly more exposure to people who hate weebshit
This is a really fucking bad move.

>>21780100
No.

>>21780100
The real deal. Meanwhile everyone else is just doing karaoke kek.

>>21780419
She's peppering some goodbyes here and there. I can't be the only one who's hearing this.
Guess it's tummy hort but with a pseudolegit reason.

Cali thinks she's better than me

>>21781305
She is

>>21781305
Where's your major music label signage then, Icarus?

>>21781220
inb4 sony buys the character off of cover

>>21780100
Suisei is dead to me

>>21780100
Damn, now she's never going to graduate. I was really hoping she'd just finish leeching and move everyone over to her persona and build her miserable career around that but Hololive owns Mori so that she's willing to sign with that means she's basically committed to ruining Hololive until her music career ends. Which we can hope comes sooner rather than later.

>>21780100
I'm all for it, we're one step closing to Mori leaving to pursue her music career. The bigger she gets, the less she needs Hololive

you can hate on her but this is massive

>>21781609
imagine if a big yab happens. will cover terminate her on the spot.

>>21781305
I mean, she is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M85xU-tbQ6c
GET IN HERE FAGS

>>21781856
no

>>21781771
It actually the opposite since hololive owns Mori. She’s basically committed to Mori for the entirity of her music career.

>>21781779
I realize you know nothing about music but historically deals like these are where true fans turn on their favorite artist and normalfaggots come in. So even if it's "massive", it's not guaranteed to be a positive for the original core audience.

>>21781609
>>21781771
seethe

>>21781943
IPs can be transferred, for a price

Thanks music company.

>>21781779
>>21782084
She just got laughed out of the building by every normalfag a few days ago, if her music didn't have a cute pink haired anime girl picture attached to it I would never listen to any of them.

>>21782132
imagine throwing out income for IPs. The company must not be thinking long term. Sony learned this about selling rights to the beatles label to MJ and were scrambling to get it back.

>>21782146
I could see this in the near future when other holos try to sing Mori's music from now on.

>>21782146
Russian?

>>21780100
i hate this so fucking much but i have to kneel, the cunt somehow made it even with rap trash

Suisei learned RAP

>>21782354
Yep. Welcome to the new world bullying. Soon any country could be in our place and get shit on just because some brand told to.

Ok but can we all appreciate how sexy Suisei is?

>>21781856
SuiSEX!

>>21782473
Use VPN тoвapищ

>>21782146
Please say you’re a seanig i wish all hololive… all vtuber content would get blocked for seanigs so you faggots finally leave and lose interest

>>21780100
Good for her I suppose but what does that mean in practice? I mean hololive already produces and sells her music, why would they sign her up with a third party producer? What does Cover even gain by someone else having the rights to her music?

>>21782570
I'd use it if I cared about Mori's music.

>>21781291
You have no idea what End Of A Life was written about, do you?

>>21780646
Makes negotiating rights, concerts and collaborations much easier, better distribution for merch, probably some royalties and residuals that will secure things in the long term.

>>21782698
Sonn you will need it for pretty much everything.

>>21781787
EN doesn't has standards so nope.

what an enigma
i guess i will never truly understand her
for me she's by far the worst in myth and i cant stand her music
furthermore, the more effort she puts into streams, music, and trying to be cool, the less watchable i find her
and yet, she still has a following
it just baffles me and i don't think ill ever get an answer

>>21782918
>implying I wasn't using VPN for 10 years already
Tell me something new.

>>21780100
>selling out and joining a generic studio
>"WOW BASED I KNEEL"
Are deadbeats this pathetic?

>>21780738
Only seeing Mori as more of a vsinger once she joined a big label is so fucking funny of deadbeats being retarded.

>>21782964
>it just baffles me and i don't think ill ever get an answer
She is what kids listen to (rap) but flavored for weebs, so of course that crowed will flock to her

>>21781213
>Heck you might see hololive on /tv/ now.

I came here to flee normie culture. Mainstream holo is a nightmare where every streamer will be canceled for ever saying a bad word or just by being a sexualized anime character.
Imagine the influx of fat trangesder neo lesbian vtuber it would provoke.

>>21782658
It means that Mori's yab was carefully planned by kikes. It means were going to get more drama and it's all gonna be manufactured bullshit. I read a post comparing her yab to kayne, after her last ep came out, and now I believe it.

>>21780738
Calm your tits anon, more has 1.5 years ahead of IRyS...

>>21782964
Her last album was absolute trash. Basically she doesn’t deserve it, etc

>>21780646
Anon Universal is the label for people like Taylor Swift, Kanye and BTS. Mori now has the might of the largest music company in the world behind her. Short of her raping a child in public and even then musicians have got away with worse.

>>21782132
Cover won't sell IPs to the talents because they are big and if able many would buy the personas and leave.

>>21780738
Oh don't you even fucking dare compare my wife's singing abilities with Mori's.

>>21783059
>Imagine the influx
You don't have to.

>>21783176
she probably had to rape a child to get initiated into the jewish music label world, in fact thats probably why shes been talking about fucking shotas lately

>>21781535
And makes a cringe movie adaptation

>>21780100
Not Universal Japan, just Universal; the big one.

>>21782473
Not every country has a retarded leader like yours

>>21782649
Dunno about indo, but it won't matter much in the ph.

>>21783245
based /pol/ schizo

>>21782473
stop invading someone else's clay ivan

>>21783176
Dude, record labels sign all sorts of trash, you being signed to them doesn't make you their top priority and she already has gotten away with worse. This is no change to the status quo on that level at all.

>>21782698
Based russian bratan

>>21781609
>Damn, now she's never going to graduate.
Basically, yeah. Maybe she'll be less likely to do stupid shit now, though.

>>21781535
>Sony
No no no. Think bigger. Like Disney bigger.

>>21783154
She's already said that the album was a cauldron of genres mixed in. A very experimental album. She wanted to try genres that she hasn't had the opportunity to touch yet. Of course some of it is gonna be shit

>>21783245
>Chloe asks if she likes little kids
>Releases a song called Q with the Lolita vtuber
It’s all coming together.

>>21782084
>it's not guaranteed to be a positive for the original core audience.

Bingo, you. are. not. the. intended. audience.

Some of the original core will stick with her, those who are leaving will not be missed.

>>21780100
>Universal Japan
She's signed to EMI Records
https://twitter.com/calliope_info/status/1510955267768619008

>>21783342
How is liberating minority populations an invasion?

>>21783395
It all makes sense

>>21783405
Go back to twitter you massive faggot.

>>21782490
Her saying "shitai" in that song makes my cock hard.

>>21783405
>those who are leaving will not be missed.
Now where is that 5 panel picture about a hobby

>>21783299
>>21783342
The only thing I've been invading for the past 20 years is my fridge.

>>21783431
Hitler said the same thing when reconnecting German lands lmao

>>21782473
I look forward to the day when your country no longer has electricity and you can no longer use VPNs to ruin our civilized society

>>21780100
>Universal Japan
oh you wish she signed to that small branch
its EMI

>>21783016
Damn, talk about a weak bait. Here, have a (You). Inb4 "not an argument" or other bullshit lmao

Its EMI retard

>>21783566

>>21782964
I feel the same, felt like her most of her songs on her last album were actual duds, I get what >>21783379 is saying, I actually enjoy really experimental shit, what she did was the opposite, it was very generic and uninspired
I unironically liked her calvin shit for april fools more than her actual album

>>21783629
Very niche artists rmao

>>21783519
>CALLIOPE
EMI
>CALLIOPE
EMI
>CALLIOPE
EMI
>CALLIOPE
EMI

Sorry brah, can't hear you over this sick beat.

>>21783544
>when your country no longer has electricity
Why would we have no electricity? Is West gonna ban it from importing?

>>21783629
Mori x Freddie song when?

>>21783412
>separate Twitter account
It begins. Calli's pathway beyond Hololive is already set.

>>21783379
Wtf is experimental about using a few shit genres to make anime music

>>21780100
She's finally joining big boys and gals group! Congrats to her!

>>21783431
Probably around the same time you started shooting medics/media/civilians even if you think the media spew lies shooting them is a real bad look.
You lost the war at that point already, modern war is propaganda and the ruskies seem to have forgotten that

>>21783608
Where's the source on this besides that literally who "calliope_info" account

>>21783526
I've assumed as much, Putin being so clearly in the right really redpilled me on the fact that the one thing I thought I didn't like about Hitler was probably a misunderstanding. Please provide me any good resources on his liberation efforts to help me put aside any lingering doubts.

>>21783794
After The Beatles and Bowie maybe.

>>21780100
what does that mean

>>21782473
Just don't sign a paper telling that a piece of land is yours and throw your army in there Ivan

>>21783732
Kill yourself

>>21783888
All war is propaganda, seems pretty obvious this will just be like every war since the Cold War and just never actually resolve.

>>21783953
It means Hololive is now actually fully mainstream

>>21782132
sure, pay Cover a couple Billion dollars and maybe it will think of transferring it.

>>21783750
Your entire economic and societal structure is about to collapse. You will be living in mud huts soon, engaging in tribal stick warfare for scraps while the rest of the world laughs

>>21783909
This is a good website to enlighten yourself
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/trollface

>>21780100
Is she the first vtuber to ever get this big? Was there any Holo that get major debut before?

>>21782658
they foot the cost

>>21784228
Still better than living in united states of LGBTQ

>>21784114
Speaking of death, don't forget to purchase Calliope's First Full Album UnAlive! On sale now and streaming on your favorite Music apps!

>>21782964
I like her music. A lot of other people like her music too.

>>21784311
Yeah, Universal was made exactly for her. She's just that big.

>>21782658
One of the reasons she has so much music is that she spends tons of her own cash on it, so even if she gets a smaller cut she might make more if someone else pays for writing and mixing and so on

>>21782274
>>21783195
>>21784126
Bruh, for all we know Cover and Universal is in the talk on this

>>21782964
Anon, some people like pineapple on pizza and others detest it. Can't expect everyone to savor your favorite Baskin Robbins flavor.

>>21784342
Glad you think so. Enjoy getting literally cucked by Putin, and remember how much you wanted it

>>21783888
>You lost the war at that point already
Pootler lost the war as soon as he decided to invade there's no doubt in it. The problem is that for the 20 years he was creating the image that West is evil and wants to steal my property. Now West is cutting me of the things I've been paying for making Pootler looking good in the eyes of his people.
>>21784228
Yea sure.
>while the rest of the world laughs and freeze to the death when autumn hits
probably.

>>21780303
>Sign as Mori
She'll be here for years

>>21780476
Just Mori but she had her first single be a song that featured suisei

>>21783944
>mori uses her reaper powers to collab with Bowie

>>21782473
The alternative isn't getting everything you want like a spoiled child, the alternative is actual war. You are experiencing nuclear enforced mercy.

>>21784322
>>21784479
Did cover really not cover her music production/advertisement costs? That's strange, so do they just cut her music off completely and hand all the music rights to Universal?

>>21782473
>retarded leader gets """elected"""
>you had no say in the matter, he just decided that he's the leader forever and all opposition is offed
>retarded leader throws shitfit and invades a country
>every russian is now the bad guy because of one faggot that you didn't even vote for
I honestly feel bad for you fags. At least the bugmen do it to themselves, you didn't even get a say in it

>>21784566
>looking good in the eyes of his people
nah he looks weak, and there is nothing worse in Ruskie culture than looking weak

Is that the studio that the famous rapper DevilDominoes also signed to!?

>>21784616
Callie & Snoop Dogg & Holo Tupac

It's happening.

>>21784616
Keep my Bowie out of your mouth!

>>21784342
I wish Russians actually believed this. It'd be nice for retards who claim they want nice things to see that you actually have to be willing to pay for them. Maybe this accursed status quo could finally change even slightly.

>>21783888
Dude, Russian propaganda is the best. Just ask the average Russian their opinion on the war.

>>21784706
I mean we dont have her saying it outright, but we do know that unless its a major music collab directed by Cover, then the talent needs to pay for everything when it comes to music

>>21782473
what a soft cunt, go get conscripted

Guys I dont think the New Door teams are point fraud...unless you mean the other way around...they fucking suck

>>21784738
Smoke Weeb Everyday

>>21784706
>do they just cut her music off completely and hand all the music rights to Universal?
It's unknown, since we don't know the details of her contracts. Cover owns the rights to the character Mori Calliope and everything she produces, so they could have handed the rights to her music over or they could have split ownership

>>21784713
He's been the leader longer than most people here have been alive. If he was so bad, people would have done something about it, like moved somewhere else.

>>21783176
>Short of her raping a child
Will Mori finally live her shotacon shotadom dream?

>>21780100
Considering this been in the works for a while, it does explain why cover pushed her jab under the rug so quickly and she were practically untouchable

>>21780100
Not even Japan. She’s in Universal EMI, the branch that had Queen and Freddie Mercury. Mori’s playing with the big boys now.

>>21784711
He's weak and sick and this is not a news, we know it. The problem is not that but his possible death. He can rot all he want I don't care but we have no other leaders except for Navalniy and Russian's elites won't make him a president so they're scared of Pootler dies soon probably tying to find a strong replacement as fast as they can.
>>21784713
That's how we live.
>>21784949
And that's how russian propaganda works.
>people would have done something about it
People did multiple times. There's a reason why police's budget is so high.
>like moved somewhere else
Some moved. I won't this is my home and I wanna se him die with my own eyes.

>>21785166
We can only imagine the depths of the contents that caused Rushia to fuck up so profoundly for Cover to be forced to put a heavy mood over the entire 3rd Fes + Expo.

>>21784713
If someone thinks the russian civilians are to blame or the bad guys then they are retarded. People should focus their hate on the leaders.

>>21785219
Universal Japan isn't Japan?

>>21784538
The Russians are the good guys. Ukraine is a bastion of globohomo

>>21784949
if only it was that easy anon

>>21780738
uhh
always has been
despite's vt's retardation, pushing a song a month is a strong indication she's committed to music.

>>21785385
Yea too bad she has to do it as a vtuber.

>>21784862
hhaahahahah good one XD took me a minute to stop laughing

>>21784519
They aren't going to sell the IP without Calli's input, it would be too bad a look, same as forceful graduation. If she approves of it, which I think would be stupid of her, then I expect Cover will get a good fucking chunk of change to agree to it.

>>21785326
No, just like how Nintendo of America is not America.

>>21780100
Still can't get a nendo or life size statue. New single from album with 3D MV lost to 9 month old Gura song. I KNEEEEL

>>21783016
>a generic studio
Cope harder.

>>21781305
She is.

>>21785219
>>21785583
Then why her first concert is in Japan?

>>21781856
remember, 4 times.

>>21781291
>>21780303
>>21781771
>>21782132
>>21783848
>>21783016

>>21783249
>>21783380

You retards do know that Sony is the 3rd biggest music label in the world right?

>>21785533
Mori would drop her entire fanbase if it meant she could be a true full time artist and never need to stream again
Best case for everyone honestly, no more collabs ruined by her and she gets to achieve her dreams, win win

Deadbeats arnt even being ironic anymore... totally deluded

>>21781771
She already bigger

>>21783059
Have you looked at NijiEN lately?

>>21784836
You would think they would give her at least a bigger cut of the pie or something. At least they handle all the merch deals.

>>21782835

Presumably she can make enough cash on sponsorships, but I'm curious how that works, does Universal have a say in what sponsors she picks now or is it still just Cover and Universal is purely involved with the Music and concerts.

>>21785870
Doesn't help your argument when they just killed one of the 4 kings.

>>21780100
Threesome SUISEX WITH MORI

>>21786018
>bigger cut of the pie
The pie itself is bigger thanks to cover, so even if the relative size of covers cut is big the real size she takes home is bigger than ever

>>21785805
Dwayne! Look at him go!

>>21780100
ngl despite the memes i've been following her music for a while and she's grown on me. her older stuff isn't particularly remarkable but she's definitely improved since 2019.

>>21783629
Hey, if that secures Hololive permissions to sing more english songs for Karaoke i'm all for it.

>>21786251
You elevated the awful cringe wigger bitch to such a ludicrous extent that now we are witnessing this absurd spectacle. I think what you've done is really fucking dumb.

>>21786416
The smaller corporations sing english songs all the time you know.

>>21780100
Suisex in second once again. That must sting.

>>21786448
look bruh, I dont like her, her content is brain dead, her attitude is rotten and her music is generic. But if she leaves to achieve her music dreams then she might leave my oshi alone and that is all I care about

>>21786789
I'm just saying that you have elevated this vtuber group to such a ridiculous, absurd extent. They're all multi-millionaire now and they don't even need to stream anymore. I just don't understand why you keep dumping money on this one vtuber group specifically when there's so many other great people out there. I think it's really ridiculous.

>>21783356
Yeah just like how every major artist is well behaved and never had any yabs

>>21785643
Universal Japan is a branch of a much bigger company outside Japan. Think dumbass. Think.

>>21782964
I kinda don't like it either, my friend straight up called her latest stuff shit, but at the same time I am well aware that not many people liking old dubstep anymore, which I still religiously followed. SO, I guess it's different people different taste, at least that's what I use to cope.

Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk.

>>21784738
>Holo Tupac
I will unironically kneel if that happen

>>21785592
Once again, this fact based post gets ignored by shitposters. It destroys their narrative

>>21780100
You know that there's a random niji that's also already picked up by universal music, right?

I'm happy for her. She's worked hard and her last album showed musical growth. I also prefer her music when she's doing more pop stuff rather than the underground rapping. Her earliest work was more "cute" than it was good.

>>21780100
Its all fun and games until they hold a gun to her career and make her participate in their (((propaganda))).
Whats hololives stance on politics when a bigger company demands it from them?

>>21786870
because they are simply better nijinigger.

>>21787491
He was picked up by universal japan, she was actually picked up by Univesal EMI, which is much bigger/more prestigious.

>>21787491
Aoi is Universal Japan, a minor side branch at best.
Mori got picked up by the actual main Universal.

Why should I care about Mori if he hasn't streamed since Friday?

>>21781305
She probably is.

>>21786870
I heard Kawaii Project doesn't do collabs with males, so they might be worth something, but otherwise there are not that many options.

>>21781787
No. Universal won't allow it.

>>21786870
Because they are the best.

>>21781787
Not anymore. Universal would have to OK it and just look what they'll tolerate.

>>21788187
It’s ok she will stream on her roommate account

This is a great opportunity for all the people who make Mori's music for her, before she ruins their work with her amateur cringeworthy rap lyrics

>>21782473
I hate Russians and chinks since long before this shitshow

>>21787997
I honestly believe that kuzuha got a better deal, I assume the japan branch doesn't have that many jews

>>21782964
She's the only Holomem that writes her own lyrics. That puts her above the rest musically, including your oshi.
What's there to understand?

>>21788680
>better deal
Virgin Records revenue: $84.91 million
EMI Records revenue: $1.8 billion
Mori single under EMI Records (Universal Music Japan)

>>21788738
Anon I...

>>21788595
>She
I'm talking about this guy, not Calli
https://youtu.be/pcr15OkSKqc

>>21788759
I mean if you want to sell your body and soul to the jews sure, but don't be surprised if calli has another lean moment in the next few months

>>21788738
Why are cuckbeats like this

Stupid question. How did this happen?
Did Universal call Cover and said: " We want Mori here's the contract."
Or did Cover went to Universal and made a proposal.

The small part of Mori's music that is actually made by Mori is usually the worst part

>>21782964
>People like things that I don't.
>HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?
Tell your parents I'm sorry their son came out autistic.

>>21788954
The big part of my dick in your asshole is raping you.

the single sucks just sounds like a generic k-pop song

Congratulations black breeder

>>21788938
It's so strange. It seems like every way you look at it, cover, who has previously published every song by every talent, is losing money by letting them be the label. Did Calli push for it to feel like she "made it"?

>>21785874
She already never needs to stream again. At this point she could probably live a pretty good life solely off of ad revenue and music royalties.

>>21785874
Good points, but that wouldn't make you seethe 24/7. I'd rather she kept streaming (which she will).

>>21789156
>cover, who has previously published every song by every talent, is losing money by letting them be the label
Cover doesn't even have the capital to do proper physical releases for their hit singles.
Fucking Stellar Stellar was sold out EVERYWHERE with physical copies being nigh on impossible to get for the longest time.
There is zero shot in hell they are losing money on this deal.

>>21789156
>is losing money by letting them be the label.
That's now how business always works: i.e. it's not just about your share of the pie, but about growing the size of the pie itself. It may be a test, intended to measure whether using an outside, established label like this, can benefit them, either in raw revenue (a smaller share of a much larger pie) or in audience growth that feeds back into Hololive itself.

>>21789156
Cover doesn't lose if UMG's marketing and reach multiplies Calli's sales to the point they start making more.

>>21789451
This guy has done publisher deals in Game Developer Tycoon, he gets it.

>>21788857
If anything, if she makes enough money for them she'll become untouchable.

>>21780100
Feels bad she got in as Mori. Imagine that 70% cut from Hololive.

>>21789727
It would probably be:
Universal - 95%
Cover - 4%
Mori - 1%

>>21789451
>>21789494
Brands aren't all powerful and their marketing isn't (always) succesful mass-brainwashing, neither Mori, Cover or vtubers will see any growth from this. Hell, remember sony's vtuber project?
What both cover and Mori get is the help for projects like the concert and goods, considering how bad cover is at doing that

>>21780419
Anon, that's a graduation if her album sells, record label will just buy out the rest of the IP rights from covercorp
Kuzuha wasn't bought out because his numbers are reclining

>>21789792
Seems like all she'll be getting is just exposure and non of that money.

>>21789156
Cover is a small fish when it comes to music.
They had a few singles that topped the charts for a while, but by and large they are amateurs.

Someone like UMG can quite literally put a couple hundred copies of Mori's new album into every bigger music store worldwide overnight if they thought they'd sell.
They could arrange her songs to play on every mainstream radio channel if they saw the potential for it.

The sheer reach they have is absolutely ridiculous, if UMG is Mc Donalds then Cover is a kid selling sandwiches out of his parent's garage for some pocket money.

>>21789494
Cover loses out if universal decides to buy out her contract, it's the deathcry of EN, it will affect the other EN girls

>>21789945
>All those archaic ways of promoting songs
This is why Kpop is dominating the market.

>>21782964
They can't give you an answer because there is none. Connor was right about hololive.

>>21790128
You do realize BTS is Universal too, right?

>>21790181
Are you implying BTS was homegrown by Universal?

>>21790181
And they're popular in spite of Universal

>>21790128
https://kpop.fandom.com/wiki/Universal_Music_Korea

I hope the jews overwork her to death

>>21789839
It's got to be a really bad deal. Universial doesn't make fair deals and both Mori and Suisei got plenty of exposure and success already. Universial gets the cake while Cover get's crumbs in form of connections, but that's it.

>>21788738
That's literally the worst part of her "music".

>>21785219
The thumbnail and tweets say Universal Music (probably for better PR/clout). But, Univeral Music Japan's website says otherwise.
https://www.universal-music.co.jp/mori-calliope/

Also, EMI (parent company) is the one with the big boys. EMI Records (the Japanese branch) is the new name for EMI Records Japan since they had to split into the former and Virgin Records.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMI_Records

Technically, its all owned by Universal Music Group. So that's why they used Univeral Music in their social media.

>>21789274
Clout is addictive, even if she can retire and live as a hermit she never will, her goal is to be a bigshot musician and money is just a means to that end

>>21790621
But its hers, unlike the rest of Hololive. People respect that. Also, she's prolific. Gura has just the one song. Calli had like 20.

>>21780100
You know this just means she is going to stream less on her other channel, also the Trash Taste boys are the leeches now

>>21788938
Cover has an entire group of people dedicated to business development and they are serious about their jobs. Marketing has pulled off some big wins (the celebrity interviews) but biz dev organized the convention, the merch, the sponsorships, and arranged for music sales. It's likely that Sony's vtuber attempt actually brought Cover to UMG's attention and the convention was all the proof UMG needed that they were big enough to look into.

>>21785219
seems like just universal japan which would be just that team and not the full force of umg

>>21791084
these talk probably happened before the convention lol

People actually watch this child lover enough to get her in Universal's radar lmaoo

>>21780100
>mori threaten cover to graduate
>immediately gave her signed music label even before the other singer in entire holos

>>21780100
her "music" is dogshit, it will always be dogshit, she's musically impaired lad she can't do jack shit but write lyrics whilst a dozen people do the actual work around her, and rap is garbage in the first place no matter how good the lyrics are - hers aren't good but even if they were it wouldn't change anything
the amateur shit i made in college, the stuff i made in highschool with a band of teenagers, is better and more enjoyable than anything calli will ever do. she's just a walking wigger brand. glad we have hundreds of other vtubers who pump out better musical content in their random karaokes cause some of them actually have real talent

>>21791297
Well, go on, show us your work anon. We're all ready to be blown away by your musical talent.

>>21791354
Not that anon, but
>You can only realize something is shit if you can personally create something deemed to be better
Oh, this retarded argument? Seriously?
Hey just asking, are you a 5 star chef? Are you a genius film director? Are you an incredible, once in a lifetime artist? Are you a world renowned architect?
If your answer to any of these is no, then shut the fuck up forever and never speak again. That is, if you want to follow your own fallacious logic.

>>21791500
No, but he specifically made this claim. Gotta call him out on his obvious bullshit. He started it.

>>21791181
So this isn't the main UMG? It's a Japanese branch owned by UMG?

>>21791799
The single is credited to UMG EMI Records, which would be the UK based main branch.
Who the fuck knows though, there's conflicting information from all sorts of official sources, half of them don't seem to be very sure themselves.

>>21791799
exactly, a subdivision

>>21790135
>Connor
Is Welshman unironically rent free in your head?

>>21791799
Same branch as Ado

>>21791880
>>21792084
This somehow makes me feel better, she's stepping into the big leagues, but not so much that it feels she'll go into full celeb mode.

>>21789830
If Cover judges it will hurt them long term, they won't sell the rights, simple as.

>>21789830
They let their top earner go because they wouldn't sign off on projects that, let's face it, would be harmless.
Then they let their top earner go again for something they could have swept under the rug.
Their own image is what interests them the most, selling the Mori IP would only tell everyone they are just a halfway house.

>>21792198
we just need to see a press release or something to talk about what kind of deal this is. label deals are a dime a dozen and don’t mean much on the surface. they could simply be distributing it for a cut or full blown acting as her music manager and everything in between so that needs to be cleared up.

>>21792456
Moris talking about the contract tomorrow

>>21784586
>Calli complains about Cover restrictions
>Universal buys rights to Calli from Cover
>Calli leaves Hololive
How possible

>>21782473
Nigga haha how is world bullying real haha just overthrow your government haha kill the president

>>21792875
If she's complaining about Cover restrictions, shouldn't she be way more wary about joining a big time record label? Music labels are way worse than Cover corp could ever be.
I can't wait for her to cry about how the label wont let her release her music or some shit.

>>21792875
Dude, she literally just wrote a song about having cum all over the walls. Cover clearly doesn't restrict her.
If anything, she now has less freedom when it comes to her original work.

>>21792875
Extremely not possible. Cover has no reason to sell the rights to Calliope cheaply given the income she brings them and Universal doesn't need to or want to spend big money buying out her character rights when they can just buy/split the music rights

>>21783016
>selling out and joining a generic studio
Surely now that she's followed in the footsteps of all famous rappers she'll finally have some cred though

>>21790869
This. She's a workaholic who wants more and more and more. If she becomes the second biggest and richest musical artist in the entire world she still won't take it easy. She'll just grind harder at that point.

>>21790869
>her goal is to be a bigshot musician
Better get herself some talent then.

>>21792964
Mori Calliope the character has the deal with UMJ. DDK can release as much as she wants, whatever she wants, whenever she wants.

>>21780100
fucking affirmative action

>>21786870
Cope 2viewgroomer

>>21794889
Yeah, and that's the exact same deal she had with cover. But she still found reason to complain, so...

>>21786870
I don't give a shit about Mori, but not everyone is some faggot like who who just starts not liking she because you're some contrarian nigger who can't enjoy popular shit. I don't give a shit if Suisei is a fucking billionaire, if she keeps being someone I find entertaining I will keep supporting her ass over your shitty 2view.

>>21780100
>universal hires lolicons
yikes

I'd be more impressed in a way if Mori actually wrote her own music (90% of the time it's outsourced) or the debut single for this deal wasn't generic pop.

I mean congrats on getting the big money and the payout for the grind. Like all things considered she does still work hard but it feels like each release becomes (with the exception of C-man) more and more commercial

>>21781771
legally the Calliope Mori brand is owned by the Cover Corporation. The only way she leaves is if she can continue to leech followers to her roommate's brand. But there's no way that Cover lets her have the brand for free

Mori got the music label to be able to stream Persona, because if the clout it would give, now Atlus has to allow it, right?

>>21781291
It does seem like an excuse to stream less as Mori because she have to concentrate more on her music shit from now on when in fact she already plans roommate streams and other stuff, it's kinda weird but the fact is she doesn't need to graduate to do what she wants, even in JP we have people like Ayame.

>>21782822
Remember how that superchat drama started in febuary after she supposedly learned her lesson? It was mostly about the rapper shit again and just spilled over into reddit or whatever. Knowing that you might have a problem and actually fixing it are two different things.

>>21795827
They could just sell the rights to Mori to EMI or take a royalty cut for the next decade in return for letting the character transition to full time artist under EMI

The reality is that if EMI offer to buy her contract and IP, Cover will say yes for the right price

Here's the "deal":
In most cases, when signing with a “Major” record label, the label will offer you a large cash advance that can be used for anything and everything in your music career. Recording, marketing, visuals, merchandise, clothes, you name it. But it’s important to understand, ALL of that money is expected to be paid back in full before you will receive even one dime from the royalties that your album produces. And since these, album sales are fairly low, even for the biggest artists, many people never get out of debt with their labels. This is a part of their business structure. Meaning that if they never recoup what they’ve invested in you, then you will never see any of the money that you’ve made on your own music. Think of them as an investor, they have the money and the connections to make sure your music is successful, but in exchange, they’re going to take an agreed percentage of everything that you own.
Likely, since mori will be working with Cover Corp. to market her reaper persona, there might be less of a need for cash. Saves UMG the cash advance and she can allow them to sell Albums through their distribution, she gets her royalty for each sold and Cover also gets paid because they own the pink reaper cartoon.

>>21780100
Why, precisely?

>>21784523
This. I cant believe it actually needs to be said but I guess everyone here has a few mental disabilities. Shes getting signed because the vast majority enjoy her music and the way it sounds. Your opinion would possibly matter if a majority shares it but they dont.

>>21783338
Ain't based on much.

>>21783176
>Implying people care about sexual abuse when it
happens to boys by women

>>21796271
Tbf some artists do pay off their advance eventually, especially if they open up their catalogue for use in media, you get big paydays like that. But they will encourage you to spend as much as possible up front so they get more cream off top before you start getting royalty cheques.

>>21796238
But why would EMI buy the whole character when Cover can just sell them the rights to her music? Even if she went to only streaming once a month Cover still wants the character because it boosts their brand

>>21781609
imagine hating someone so much and they don't even know you exist ;__;

>>21780100
this song is pretty good
but that might be the power of suisex

>>21796271
Pretty much you can treat the label as a loan shark.

However, even with all of that attached, its still not all bad and has some incredible advantages. It's easier to understand when framed another way: If you can take a loan that will allow you to perform at X venue, release your albums in the Y store chain, and have music videos on Z station, even if you lose $18000 in the end since the loan didn't even fully cover it, it can still be seen as an benefit.
You simply have access to things other people never do and couldn't even offer to pay $18000 for if they wished or demanded or conspired to achieve.

I've got a cousin who works as an actor under a label and I make significantly more money than she does. However, she has access to things I could never access even if I forked over 5-10x as much money as she spends on them.

As long as the normie shit doesn’t infect the rest of hololive its fine... who I am kidding, if she succeds in this that is what its gonna happen. Have I to wish that she fails? Fuuuuuuuuuuuck.

>>21782198
What's this referring to?

>>21780100
I hate this shit so much. I can name 10 other people who deserved it more.
It's like that time Niji gave a music contract to HIMAWARI of all people. Corpo numberfaggotry fucking sucks

>when you realize the TT crews sudden interest in Mori is because they are trying to keep off her

>>21788107
yeah nice cope

>>21797143
That's what real heroes do. Commiting heroics acts in the dark, like calling Calli a wigger, while the public is none the wiser.

>>21797902
*leeching off her
Stupid mod approved auto correct.

Cover failed Irys. Shit model,no 3d, no labels, no collab songs with AZKI or suisei, and no concerts.

>>21797997
IRYS simply isn't a good singer. Cover realized they were deceived by YouTube algorithm and stopped giving her useless support

>>21782473
It's ok, America tried forcing a regime change in my country in the past few months for not siding with them on the Ukraine issue but luckily it failed.

I don't like Mori :)

>>21781005
I don't know much about Nijisanji. I'm curious, how did getting signed to Universal effect Kuzuha?

Mori Is now going to be on the super bowl

>>21781787
i have seem musicians commit a big yab over the years, basically what you get when you start connecting yourself with big names, soon there's going to be some kind of hollywood tier interview for mori and she's gonna be forced to spill the beans about company secrets or whatever in some reality TV show. "Virtual Cartoon Girl being interviewed", throwing kayfabe out the window, the interviewer will ask leading questions and mori can't make a scene and not answer since she's gonna be in national TV. FUCK. AND THEN IF SHE DOES GET POPULAR, SOME CRAPPY WESTERN ARTIST ARE GONNA TRY AND CONNECT TO HER AND START ASKING FOR COLLABORATIONS AND THIS BECOMES A SLIPPERY SLOPE INTO A BIG YAB AND EVERYTHING WILL GET RUINED FUCK

>>21798067
please, take your meds...

>>21780100
Good news it is not Sony

>>21798693
I am pretty happy knowing my girl doesn't have to deal with this shit. She just goes at her own pace, in her lane, moisturized from her spa visit.

>>21796003
ATLUS VIDEO GAME COMPANY

>>21798693
It is true that once we hit a certain critical mass the hit pieces will roll in. EN vtubing has had an easy ride because its critics so far are autists on rock throwing forums, not the press.

The "paedo" angle is for brainlets, expect the angle to be on parasocial relationships or political correctness and China appeasement, if from the right.
Taco Bell sponsorship also viable angle

>>21797997
the writers and designers failed irys. only JP songs and retarded cringey lore filled bullshit songs.

at least calli's lore is just like "I'm a grim reaper lol!" which while fucking retarded is a common trope used in lots of media and video games. irys's lore is "I'm the embodiment of hope and born from an angel and devil" yes very good song concept.

anyways calli sucks shit and it's really fucked up that there are enough clueless loser retards that listen to her that she's successful but she's also very far from the first clueless retard to become very successful.

>>21783016
nigga where your oshi in the label?

>>21799656
This seems like it will be a unique situation that will determine how Vtubers are criticized in the West from now on, and I definitely think Lawsuits will be involved. What about when mainstream US media treats Calliope Mori and ____ as the same person, complete with face and address Dox in national news? Wonder how US courts will treat that.

>>21780100
Congratulations on being picked up by a stock broker who sees your statistics and doesn't care if you fart into a microphone

>>21797997
You forgot a new outfit. Do we even got a date for that?

>>21799799
Haters gonna hate

This is such a monkey's paw situation. I'm super happy for Suisei, but now a lot of her music is going to have calli's awful kidzbop rap attached to it.

>>21806626
No matter what, Suisei has her signature songs. No worry about that.

>>21806250

what the fuck are you talking about why would they be publishing her home address? It's not like she even pretends to make her past life a secret and is very open, probably way more open than hololive would like about her roommate and past life.

yes if she does some illegal shit she would have to be in court herself like when "icefrog" the dota guy had to be in court records even though he's tried to remain anonymous forever.

>>21792084
>calli will feature in one of Ados songs
Kill me

>>21780303
You serious?