/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>21248249
>500k

Saplings looking real quiet right now.
Brats are the next target and soon all of Council and IRyS b y August.
Then we start with Myth

>twitter screenshot thread
Cool anon very nipple, I mean nice!

Why does vox keep spamming the board like an insecure douche?

>>21248249
What is he winning?

>>21248249
What with all the spamming threads with this dude reaching half a million?
Its not the first time a Niji, Holo, or even indi has done so, is it like some inside joke or something?

>>21248299
Now compare the CCV, Vod views and superchats anon.
He destroys her in those categories as well. Even Mysta and Iron Mouse destroy her in ccv and SC

>>21248381
>500k

And Gura is about to hit 4mil
His 500k mean nothing

>>21248402
CCV, VOD VIEWS, SC>>>>>SUBS

>>21248403
all dead subs, does it matter?

>>21248249
>500k
Winning against who? LMAO

>>21248381
NIJICOPE LIST:
FRAMED IN GOLD
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

CLASSIC
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
NUMBERS
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad

IT DOESN'T COUNT
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
MERCH AND SPONSORS
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run
OTHERS
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>Selen delusion here
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>>21248451
>500k

>>21248516
Fauna, lmao. Keep being delusional and he will mogg all of holo en in the prcess

>>21248559
All of them are true however
>>21248567
Gura CCV<VOX and Mysta CCV.
Have some shame

>>21248572
>Keep being delusional and he will mogg all of holo en in the prcess
Males HoloEN are gonna mog his ass

>>21248572
Good luck mogging the wigger SC lol

>>21248567
>-42%

>>21248559
based niji slayer

>>21248572
Why do you even compare Gen2 council to Gen4 Luxiem (males) anyways? most retarded comparision ever.
where's the girls??

>>21248650
And if he does?
>>21248648
Save this anon, Holo Males will do worse than Niji females

>Bragging about 500k when an indog already has 250k a day after debut
Ok, so what does that prove exactly?

>>21248559
UNDENIABLE FACT LIST:
FRAMED IN GOLD
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

CLASSIC
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting
>Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
NUMBERS
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>-42%
>Holowhores can't get 200k ccv without graduations

IT DOESN'T COUNT
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
MERCH AND SPONSORS
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run
OTHERS
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>five Mystas
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>Selen delusion here
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>>21248686
He will, just in your dream

>>21248680
The thing is that they still are a part of Niji so this cope is bullshit. He still mogs all of council in all the departments

>>21248707
One lone "indog" already mog the whole noctyx and all of their girls combine. why is no one spamming this shit? lmfao

>>21248728
>He still mogs all of council in all the departments
Council?
You mean the one Gen from Hololive that was fucked by YouTube and lost 70% of their subs due to purges and algorithm fuckery?
That Council? Are Nijiniggers really this petty?

>>21248718
>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
Superchats aren't all the talents revenue. Coco says it's only 30% compared to merch and other income.
>council didn't do as as well luxiem
Vox is the most subbed and is less than 3 council members.
>holo management were mad about nijis opening applications again so fast
Why? Holo arranges auditions months in advance. Niji have always had quick fire auditions and releases.

/#/ in shambles

>>21248780
Still mogs them in ccv, sc and soon subs by the end of August

>>21248790
Council is 7months old compared to 3 months of luxiem tho

>>21248790
>council didn't do as as well luxiem
>Vox is the most subbed and is less than 3 council members.
Wait till August and then say that again. He will mog Bae in 4 days and Mog Mumei in about a month and half

>>21248249
midget numbers for midget vox

>>21248451
SC yeah but in terms of CCV and VOD views you really need to take your meds lmao nijiniggers are really delusional.

>>21248633
-Vox first 3 months
-Gura 1 years
You should compare to gura first 3 months dude

>>21248884
Mogging your queen in CCV, SC and Total views.

>>21248857
>Council is 7months old compared to 3 months of luxiem tho
How does that negate anything I've said?
>>21248859
>Wait till August and then say that again
Okay. But he isn't right now. Seems like a lot of predictions. Do you expect his subs to grow at the same speed he's at right now forever? Do you know any other talent vtuber or otherwise who's sub growth has been at peak growth for over 6 months?

>>21248381
>He can't even numberfag correctly
>Next he's going to pull single streams to compare
>Then he'll go "it-it-it-doesn't count!"

>>21248918
in about 10000 years we can make it nipplebros!

Zeta is already halfway there

>>21248686
Bruh, look at the absolute state of female Niji right now, no one would watch Nijimale over male Holo.

>>21248790
>Superchats aren't all the talents revenue.
That's true. I wouldn't be so eager to trust Coco's data though. And in terms of merch + voice pack income, it is most likely that Luxiem completely mogs not only HoloEN, but the entire Hololive.
>Vox is the most subbed and is less than 3 council members.
a. For now
b. Hololive tourist dead subs is the most worthless metric out there.
>Why? Holo arranges auditions months in advance. Niji have always had quick fire auditions and releases.
Because they shat their pants and started forcing shartsEN like never before.

>>21248790
>Coco says it's only 30% compared to merch and other income
Source please. I have seen one of your kind get BTFO'd when asked about source, maybe you can provide one?
>is less than 3 council members
Maybe in no more than 4 days this number will become 2 though.

>>21248312
>Then we start with Myth
Nipplecuck seriously thinks his homo can take on Gura and her genmates.

>>21248718
Holy cope

>>21249000
>That's true. I wouldn't be so eager to trust Coco's data though. And in terms of merch + voice pack income, it is most likely that Luxiem completely mogs not only HoloEN, but the entire Hololive.
Where's your evidence for that though? We know hololive merch sales because cover puts that info out frequently but we don't have much info from anycolor because they haven't put out earnings yet.
>>21249000
>a. For now
Yes. Now. That's the important bit.
>b. Hololive tourist dead subs is the most worthless metric out there.
Subs and views are probably the most important metric on youtube.
>>21249000
>Because they shat their pants and started forcing shartsEN like never before.
How do you know that? Hololive doesn't do thinks like anycolor. Creating a generation is a big deal and takes time for them for infrastructure including management hires etc.
>>21249001
>Maybe in no more than 4 days this number will become 2 though.
Okay. Again predictions. Seems strange to say that. I'm sure he'll be bigger than he is, but if you think he's going to reach a million or even 1.5 you'd have to be kind of crazy.

>>21249000
>That's true. I wouldn't be so eager to trust Coco's data though. And in terms of merch + voice pack income, it is most likely that Luxiem completely mogs not only HoloEN, but the entire Hololive.
Proof?

>>21249085
Holy seethe

Now that he has completely fucked over Fauna's entire legacy, he will fuck Bae's legacy and then Mumei's legacy and finally Fuck all of council's legacy by clapping Kronii.
I am gonna have so much fun when its IRys's turn after council

I smell nijiniggers faggotry on this thread.

nobody in this thread even watches vox

>>21248381
>CCV
Only sometimes. Not all his streams are in the 15-30k range.
>VOD views
No he doesn't. Literally anyone can go check their VOD views to compare and see that you're wrong.
>superchats
Try again when he has beaten her SC total. Also, their main source of income is sponsorships and merch. SC is just a fraction of their income. Gura has made way more money than Vox could ever dream of.
*yawn* just nijicope as usual.

>>21249175
>aqua
The niji destroyer cometh.

>>21249112

>>21248249
bet noone in this thread even watch vox

>>21249093
>but if you think he's going to reach a million or even 1.5 you'd have to be kind of crazy.
The fact is that he just needs to keep gaining 2K subs a day to reach 1M at the end of the year and right now he is growing 4-5k per day and showing no sign of slowing down.

>>21249099
There is none. And there is no proof that Hololive has more, as this part of income is not as transparent as superchats.
But it's pretty obvious that if vtuber has big superchat income, their fans would also be eager go buy their merch/voice packs.

>>21249175
I-is that Aqua-ama? The ACTUAL Nijikiller?

>>21249228
Damn right I don't

>>21249200
POV: You are Vox

>>21249235
>'most likely'
>no proof
Rumao. Also, where's his sponsorship?

>>21249234
Do you genuinely think he can maintain that high sub gain for another 8months? Can you name any talent who can? Even Gura didn't. Look at Kazuha, probably the most popular male vtuber talent. He didn't maintain that incline. But Vox who had a worse start than Kazuha is going to? Sorry I just don't buy it. Maybe I'll be proven wrong and there's a huge chinese market subbing to him that he will not saturate or deplete in a year but I doubt that.

>>21249235

>>21249234
He will become the 3rd most subscribed VTuber by the ending of 2023

>>21249292
Are you a 5 year old?

>>21248927
>Do you know any other talent vtuber or otherwise who's sub growth has been at peak growth for over 6 months
Gura subs grow massive to 3m for one years dude .

>>21249093
>We know hololive merch sales because cover puts that info out frequently
We don't. It's a retarded faggot from /#/ who claims that amount of sold merch corresponds to the limits in their store. Of course, if you have at least partly functional brain, you would instantly see how stupid this sounds.
>Subs and views are probably the most important metric on youtube.
For an algorithm, maybe. But the topic of the conversation is popularity, and the fact that holotourists flood their vtubers with dead subscribers doesn't mean those vtubers are more popular than those, who have 10 times less subs.
>How do you know that?
Do some reps, newfag.
>but if you think he's going to reach a million or even 1.5 you'd have to be kind of crazy.
If you think that it's not happening, you're for a BIG surprise.

Lmao nice samefag, /#/'s seething again?

>>21249347
Seethe cumkek. He will mog your memeshark soon

>>21248299
>>21248402
>>21248567
>>21248707
>>21248884

>>21249425
>phone poster
>can't stop thinking about vox and spam this board with his faces
>28 ip / 72post
probably just a tranny or a mega faggot

>>21249363
>$1,008,570.16
Pekora...I kneel.

>>21249347
> Even Gura didn't
If you pull her sub growth in the last 30 days it will be like 2k~3k per day. Kuzuha has like 1K~2K per day.
Yeah, I don't think he will be able to keep 4K per day but I think keeping around 2k per day in his first year is fairly possible, which is already enough for him to achieve 1M in this year.

>>21248648
oh NOW you Holotards care about HoloEN males??? I thought you were dreading the day they debuted because you hate males but now you're pretending to like them just so you can have a "win" against Niji? Pathetic

>>21249425
>5 year old
UOOOOOHHHHHH TOT

>>21249363
>Source: /#/
Kek. I can also create a spreadsheet with Luxiem getting trillions of dollars for their voicepacks, explaining it by "I looked into voicepack store page's code and calculated those numbers" - would be absolutely the same.

>>21249430
But Gura didn't maintain her peak sub growth. It slowed down considerably over her career. She had a massive boost for the first 3 or 4 months that gradually slowed. She's doing well because he initial sub growth was massive. She hit a million in the first month or something.
Vox isn't anywhere close to that level of growth. And to think he will maintain this level of peak growth when even Gura couldn't throughout the first year I think is fantasy thinking.
>>21249456
We do though. Hololive tells us how much they stock and when they have sold out. Thus we know how much they have sold. It's not a difficult equation. The amount hololive draws in through merch absolutely dwarfs their superchat income. Do you even know how much they made during holofes? It was obscene.
>do some reps
Not an argument.
>for an algorithm
No it's the most important metric on youtube. Even ccv isn't as important as subs and views on videos because youtube just doesn't measure that as an important statistic. Subs are a direct show of whether a talent is popular compared to views which show if a specific video is popular. Ccv should be factored in somewhere but really isn't at the moment.
>>21249592
Sure. But Gura's initial growth for Vox's time was in the tens of thousands of subs a day. Going down to 3k now is because of her huge growth as the most popular vtuber at the moment. Vox is currently at his peak and you're expecting too much of him to carry 2k subs a day in 8 months time. I just don't think that's going to happen.

>>21249592
>Kuzuha has like 1K~2K per day.
You do know that Kuzuha reached 1 Mill september of 2021.

>>21249639
Holy copium.

>>21249425
Your Whores are carving for VOX's cock anon

>>21249731
Who gave you a personal phone?
OR are you perhaps using your Mum's phone anon because you actually sound like a 5 year old anon

>>21249607
>reads one post
>this is now the opinion of every single holofag
get it together anon

>>21249656
>We do though.
Do they? Then provide a link to an official statement from Cover about stock from this anon's post: >>21249363
>Not an argument.
It not an argument. It's was meant to inform you that your previous statement about shartsEN was not a legit argument either. You clearly didn't follow all holoshart related events from the 2021-2022, because otherwise you wouldn't make such retarded assumptions.
>Subs are a direct show of whether a talent is popular compared to views which show if a specific video is popular.
No, they only show how many tourists clicked one button and forgot about that channel.

>>21249693
HAHAHA, you called it a copium, but I just described an actual way how holokeks "calculate" their merch sales.
In other words, holokek exposed holocope just by himself.

>>21250232
You need to be 18+ to be here

>>21250654
An excellent example of pure projection right here.

>>21250731
Yaaaaasss Nijisis. Let them know how much Chinese needledick we suck. We ain't ashamed of bowing down.

imagine you have to suck dick and be a homo just so you can shit on hololive. yall need the rope

>>21248354
Numbers

>>21248987
holo males will do better than noctyx and non-vox luxiem but they won't come anywhere near vox just because nobody else has the stomach to do the BFE that he does. also they can't get the chinese audience back.

>>21248648
I'm a hololive fan, and even I'm not that deluded to think HoloEN males will be that popular, I don't see it anon.
Regardless this tribalfagging is getting annoying at this point. It's all so tiring.

To be fair, I only want to see the moment Vox passes Kiara. I want to see both Kiara's and this board's reaction

Nobody on /vt/ actually watches this guy you people just use him for numbers shitposting.

>>21257371
How new?

>>21257371
I watch him!

>>21248790
>Coco says it's only 30% compared to merch and other income.
Luxiem merch sales are just as high as their SCs, tho. It's some of the best selling shit in the whole vtuber market

>>21248299
>4 million subs
>Less CCV than half of NijiEN males

>>21248381
>Meanwhile

>>21249176
I watch him. He's fun. I'm just rubbernecking this number war because I can't believe this many people would give a shit one way or the other

>>21260748
NOOOOOOOOO DELETE THIS

>>21260748
Soon. She'll pass him soon.

>>21260748
damn why can't the girls do a celebration stream every hundred k milestone, kronii doens't even have a celebration stream

>>21260748
How much money did Vox make in supas?

>>21261174
Can't compare the two because Zeta doesn't have supas unlocked for her yet since she debuted only a few days ago.

>>21261174
14.3k in usd.

Man is single handedly dominating the fujo market. I kneel.

>>21260202
If that's all they're making that's nothing. Meanwhile hololive making millions per girl with every merch run. Dollars. Millions of dollars.

Didn't vox molest a child?
Oh yeah he did!

>>21248249
he should invest in a new alternate custome

speedo or mankini parhaps for this summer ?

>>21248312
>oversaturated female vtubers
>Vox only has himself
I mean good job?
I'd be more impressed if he attained gura status but that's a pipe dream and everyone knows that

>>21248559
based

>>21261666
Thats pretty impressive. How far is he behind #1 in the march totals?

>>21249392
Holy shit, whatever you are smoking I want in

Can't believe Vox achievement can turn into holy cope of a thread

>>21248299
yup

>>21248367
Every time Vox gets big numbers /#/ (which pretends otherwise, but is really a stealth tribalfag thread) has a breakdown because it's not only a Niji, but an EN Niji male doing well.
Then they spam the board with shitty bait because of it.

> I feel superior because of someone else's numbers.

>>21248648
I hope HomoEN males all get into a 9/11 tier catastrophe before debuting and leave my gender segregated idol agency the fuck alone.

t. Holofag

>Vox Akuma, circa summer 2023:
https://youtu.be/htDB8SuLrng

>>21249023
>nipplesanjies think their homos will get over 10k subs
>nipples think their homos will get over 1k views
>nipples think their homos will get 100k subs
>nipples think their homos will beat council
>(you are here)
>nipples think their homos can take on myth
ogey

>>21264606
no but he fucked a hag, though

>>21281447
KEK

>>21248249
who?

>>21248249
Twilight faggot

>>21260748
OH NO NO NO NIPPLEBROS NOT LIKE THIS

Yes, being a fujo-pandering, china bowing cuck to get to 500k. You sure showed them the true character and talent of NijiEN there buddy.

Nipplebros, I thought that we didn't care about sub counts and quality streaming was what mattered? Suddenly we are excusing the fact that nijien has gotten significantly worse in quality in exchange for said numbers. Why is that?

>>21286269
>nijien has gotten significantly worse in quality in exchange for said numbers
no it didn't

>>21286419
You can be ignorant of it if you want. But my enjoyment has gone down quite a bit since the homos arrived and I know I'm not the only one. It doesn't have the same magic it had in the first number of months

>>21286626
>and I know I'm not the only one
Just because the voices in your head say so as well doesn't mean it is the blanket truth for regular people.

>>21288022
As you can say anything about regular people preferences when you are having a cuss on /vt/ lmao