/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Ah, peace

>>21141824

Tbf, outside of Uki first karaoke, the 10ks is more because of no Luxiem streaming on asian times than anything else (See Alban minecraft)

Noctyx clearly gets way less of priority whatever they stream at Asian timeslots with overlaps even if their NA numbers are fine enough (Still way ahead of the girls). If more of them starts streaming there, then sure, they could start inclining way more.

Apologize to her.

reposting

Well, what's on the timeloop menu today fellas

>>21141898
with an entire untapped audience looking in their direction, they are barely outpacing council. makes you wonder if the boys audience will ever warm up to them or will they always just be considered extras

>>21142236
yeah they should start streaming on sea/jp time
but im almost sure luxiem has them forbidden from overlapping them.
except shu who is na time but doesnt care.

>>21142255
No. Why?

>>21142273
Will this be another HoloID situation?

>>21142273
is mostly females suscribing but not really watching their solo streams only chekc them on collabs with the males. only ones i would say inclined becasue of their own work would be pou and rosemi.

>>21142281
>foobs keeps going up and down

>>21142342
Explain to me what is 'HoloID situation' in the first place.

/#/ is declining.

How long until Zeta overtakes all of the NijiEN girls?

>>21142479
> Explain to me what is 'HoloID situation' in the first place.
Risu having the same number of subscribers as Ange from Nijisanji but a fraction of her live or VOD audience, I suppose

>>21142412
I can see sub purging happening with that behavior. If we have to make a guess that doesn’t involve ANY Youtube bullshit, my guess would really just be a lot of the tourists from the Pokemon days unsubbing. That was a very unnatural incline where she tripled her sub growth and was outperforming Gura in subs. When the meta ended she went from 100-110k subs a month down to like 40k and then down to 20-30k. I can -imagine- a lot of the tourists were likely unfamiliar with foobs and thought there was gonna be more silliness coming from pokemon and shit.

That’s my only theory that isn’t on youtube’s end

>>21142479
Blow up in sub with HoloEN/JP, barely growth in view. Aka pulling a ton of subscribers who don't watch them

>>21142579
2 days at current rate, but it's kinda meaningless to use current growth on new debuts.

>>21142479
>>21142646
Here for a visual reference. If there is any doubt there is no correlation between subs and live audience this would be it.

>>21142281
Marine would be ahead of Pekora and fast approaching 2 million by now if she would stop fucking up her throat and forcing herself into hiatus every time she gets some momentum going.

>>21142869
ugh thanks for reminding me now I need to go back to the other thread and look at toko's fat titties

>>21142646
>>21142806
>>21142869
Are the NijiEN girls really going that way? Isn't their subs vs CCV/VOD views ratio still better than this?

>La+ is projected to hit 1M faster than Chloe and become the fastest JP to 1M

>Council (& IRyS) are growing at about the same rate as holoX overall, but holoX had a much better start so their speed to 1M will be better for their top members

>Ollie is in the top 10 fastest 1M

>Myth's speed to 1M remains uncontested, but only Gura and Mori retained a considerable pace beyond 1M

>Pekora is projected to hit 2M before Marine, but she also debuted 3 weeks before her so Marine would still be the faster one overall

>Gura's pace has slowed down but it is still pretty crazy, she will go from 3M to 4M much faster than any other holo going from 1M to 2M

I think the 1M to 2M chart is interesting because it puts them on a more even start point, and you can see Suisei is doing very well there, as she is currently the fastest growing JP only slower than Mori and Gura. Of course, she's still far from 2M, and every projection should be taken with a grain of salt, especially if the milestone is still far away.

>>21143077
>Isn't their subs vs CCV/VOD views ratio still better than this?
Yes, but only because their subs growth is too slow and their CCV less small

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2DfMCKcQ0
when was the last time Gura got 2 stream a day?

>>21141104
>>21140755
>>21140905
oh god you guys arent just shitposting, you really believe in that when this kind of argument isn't some 4chan exclusive but has been said on youtube, twitter and reddit a lot of times.

>>21143201
That day a few months back where she did Bully in the afternoon and then GTA in the evening. But almost rarely for sure yea

>>21143242
ogey fungus

>>21143242
We know it's you, fungus. Stop posting here and go stream.

>>21143242
did you just wake up fungus?

>>21143242
council being failures is 100% a /here/ thing as any sane person will see they are among the top performing vtubers in the EN market

>>21142190
holostars bros...

>>21143242
oh no he got triggered

>>21143201
Watch it get more viewers than the collab lmao

HOLY SHIT!
> there are only 10 ongoing streams on vrabi
> four (4) of the top 5 are VSPO streams
And people were saying VSPO was not the 3rd strongest vtuber company right now, go figure!

>>21143348
he didn't say they were failures, just that they don't perform as well as Myth

>>21143201
She's obviously enjoying this game a hell of lot more than Elden Ring.

>Gura streaming twice in a day
well that's rare

>>21143348
He never said Council were failures, just that they probably didn't perform as well as Cover expected (still retarded, but not /here/ level retarded) . The main point of his comment was to suck Luxiem's dick about how good they were doing.

>>21143429
Yes, and that was the exact rhetoric that schizos here kept pushing. Did you not see the months where council schizos kept going:
“Every new gen outperformed the last. Council is the only one who hasn’t done that” and used that as a point to consider them failures. This was said REPEATEDLY here

>>21143428
they are definitely 3rd right behind hololive

>>21143429
>>21143584
sure bud

>>21143423
Not going to happen since her first stream peaked at 18k and from what we saw from Sana, it looks like Kirby has brutally bad retention from stream to stream.

>>21143687
>what we saw from Sana
Sana sucks at streaming, Gura Kirby stream was actually funny, I doubt she will dip nearly as much as Sana

>>21143684
? ok den.

>>21143584
>>21143348
t.fungus covid

>>21143417
anyone that disagree with you fags is fulgur, great place for discussion lol
>>21143655
retard, as I said before this is an argument said many times on other places than here. this didn't begin on here. It's a normal conclusion to think they didn't perform as well as their predecessors. Same way that a lot of people outside of here thought that Ethyria was the same in comparison to the growth of the first two waves of nijien. it wasn't just here, it was said also outside of here.

>>21143668

who is first then

>>21143920
>>21143920
Vshoujo

>>21143920

Noripro

>>21142265
Guess I got my answer
>>21143802
>>21143684

>>21143201
>>21143524
probably the management got scared shitless after the recent niji en streams and numbers and made her stream so holoEN don't lose even more steam

>>21143893
ogey fungus

>>21143893
>It’s a normal conclusion that they-
No. No it’s not. There’s no way on planet earth that you would expect a new, fresh generation of people to outperform the single greatest generation that ever entered the vtuber scene. Having such outlandish expectations and drawing a conclusion that they didn’t live up to them is not “normal” that’s pure retardation. Fucking idiot

>>21144003
>management
Lol thinking management can force any talents to stream.

>>21143920
2434

>>21143920

Animare

>>21143920
Tsunderia

>>21143920
VERSEn

>>21144078
only those that are not complete wastes of their slot, so everyone except Sana

>>21143920
me

>>21143893
Have you considered the possibility of most people simply making fun of it and you giving free (You)s every time this is brought up being one of the reasons people keep making fun of it?

>>21144003
Nah, Gura just gets like this when she actually finds something she enjoys.

>>21144232
first in the fatass rankings maybe
RORU RUMAO

>>21144232

i agree

Help I started watching #10 to see who the hell she was and now she won't let me go, she's got a gun. Is this how 2views normally groom new viewers?

>>21144326
>fell for the classic threaten your viewers so they can't leave trick
roru
rumao even

>>21143920
774 in terms of breedability.

Last chance to predict /#/, will blue water cunny be number 1 in her gen or number 2? Kaela will be last for sure

>>21144548
Depends on how much overlap she'll have to suffer through.

>>21144421
She's cute but I'm scared

>>21144068
I guess all of those people speaking on other social media are fulgur fakes then, anon, because I have seen those outside of here.

>>21144548
Putting on my clown shoes, number 1 with 70K

>fauna sponsor ship
>JUST NOW PUT A FRAME FOR IT
why does fauna wants to make all ehr streams a fucking srurpise

>>21144548
60k
90k if she starts singing and is actually good

>>21145106
An ID isn't getting 90k.

>>21145169
Unless she you know who

>>21145106

if not even zeta could get close to 90k she is not getting it. i think it will be 50k at best, already counting the jp overlaps

>>21144548
30k is the floor
I can see 60-70k as ceiling

>>21142479
Reddit Holofans subscribe to them out of branch unity and then never watch them.

>>21145169
possible if it's rainych.

>>21144003
Gura seems really happy lately and spending a lot of time with members.

Only a few days left in march, who's gonna claim the top spot for superchats this month?

Wonder if one of the new HoloIDs will claim that spot in April. Seems likely given the hype.

Is there any hope for new girls at Niji?
Lain got a huge buff from her debut but then declined and is now a three view. People like to claim that Sango is successful because she blew up on NND, but looking at her VODs it doesn’t look like the viewers from the clips stayed. Then, the Ranunculus girls couldn’t even crack 3k for their first game collab together yesterday...

>>21145958

>the top spot for superchats

Gaku already won the month

>>21145958
it's won already lmao, the only thing that's left for march scs is to see if any holos pass 100k

>>21145958
>ID
>superchats
Come on now anon, please

>>21146003
Nope, Ranunculus are completely dead in the water. It's what they get for joining Manjisanji while being females...

I feel bad for ranunculus because that debut song was great yet I just don't have any reason to care about anything about them

What happened to the top 50 most viewed ori song of the week ?

>>21146003
Unironically I think the only thing for them to do now is the old /#/ adage, "Pick a timeslot and stick with it, come hell or high water." or tl;dr "Be consistent!"
Lluck will sort out the rest.

>>21146547
this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVZsdZVvYC4

>>21146627
This one is for covers

>>21146547
i think orisongs got moved to monthly for some reason

>>21146647
a few days ago he posted this regarding his activity. so maybe he's a bit behind on stuff

>>21146617
This, yeah. Prime example of this is Subaru and Mio with their morning zatsu. They've stuck it for more than a year and now those morning streams always net them good viewership.
While I don't think doing this will make the Ranunculus girls compete with even Niji's mid tier, but at the very least it will get them decent floor.

>>21145958
>Wonder if one of the new HoloIDs will claim that spot in April. Seems likely given the hype.
That's one of the stupidest things I've seen said in these threads, so congratulations.

>>21147021
Yeah its very stupid I mean Uproar! is about to debut and as we've seen, Males Make Money

>>21147082

Eh, it's not only about the males. IDs were never big on SCs, expecting any of them to top monthly on that is just...

>>21147155
Even if they were, the fact that it's split on multiples sites makes it awful for the ranking since it only consider YT SC

neo-porte sisters...

Ange caught back up to Risu.

>>21147155
Only way I can see IDs topping monthly SC is if Reine (or her family) starts using the feature as a money laundry scheme.

>>21147258

lol, she is probably kinda desperate. had the worst stream post debut of them

btw, that girl hizuki is already at 80k subs and her vods are pretty good. she and the kanae 2.0 look promising

>>21147391
Wow Risu already passed Andi

Today's superchats

>>21147815
March superchats so far
>Gaku - $215,187 (+$0)
>Vox - $116,625 (+$3,627)
>Koyori - $96,928 (+$2,975)
>Nene - $91,366 (+$0)
>Chloe - $90,241 (+$15,438)
>Miko - $76,954 (+$0)
>Leos - $68,659 (+$531)
>Ange - $62,278 (+$43,377)
>Luca - $59,543 (+$2,676)
>Mysta - $56,068 (+$838)
>kson - $52,212 (+$2,990)
>Akina - $49,315 (+$49)
>Suisei - $49,155 (+$80)
>Lamy - $47,761 (+$0)
>Shu - $47,641 (+$1,206)
>Kronii - $42,525 (+$0)
>Pekora - $42,273 (+$1,856)
>Marine - $41,812 (+$3,449)
>Iroha - $40,855 (+$776)
>Watame - $37,446 (+$0)
>Kiara - $36,895 (+$407)
>Laplus - $36,399 (+$429)
>Kana - $35,911 (+$0)
>Flare - $35,858 (+$1,247)
>Fulgur - $34,924 (+$13,101)
>IRyS - $34,202 (+$1,722)
>Alban - $34,160 (+$485)
>Ike - $33,271 (+$0)
>Noel - $30,367 (+$38)
>Sonny - $30,107 (+$745)

>>21147815
>>21147901

Niji absolute mogging Holo on SCs this month, jeez

>>21147815
Damn Fungus made 13k. No wonder the thread is quiet, he's probably out drinking.

>6 member collab on Kiara's channel 18k
>Gura playing Kirby again 15k
You stupid fucking chicken, if you are gonna drag everyone to your retard channel on your awful timezone at least go and cry you are being culled or something.

>>21148203
The collab had 19k

>>21148203
Anon, she doesn't care nearly as much as you think she does

>>21148203
Since they have to do the collabs at that hour for everyone to be awake, Ina's channel would probably be the most buffed.
Since it's her usual stream hour and it has the lowest "cull like symptoms"

>>21148203
>being culled
They can see the real, unculled numbers on their analytics, so I think they're just using the 'don't rock the boat' method.

Talk about stacking buffs.
Nazuna Kaga is having an outfit reveal.
https://youtu.be/cMHhO3hL6L4
VSPO's been riding an incline wave, also benefiting from the NeoPorte debuts.
Not only os this an outfit reveal, but it's titled as the last episode of the season for her very successful News series.

Not expecting gold, but 20k+

>>21148545
Considering how NONE of them ever said anything on twitter wrt the nonsense, and the only 'unculled for real' numbers we ever got was from Botan and Towa in MEMBER'S streams, given how gunshy Cover is about anything analytics related being shown by the talents, I'm not surprised. It's still aggravating though, to know that Youtube is straight up lying and not being consistent with their numbers on the public side.

>>21148545
They and especially management definitely know and tried to reach out to YT about it, to clearly no success.
Making the numbers public would definitely make enough noise that YT would at least adress it like in January, but, considering the last time they showed their analytics it became an international incident, management might be on their ass to much about doing anything like that.

>>21148203
Gura stream was really random. Didn't notice until now. For 15k playing kirby again is good.

There's a chance he could actually pass Vox in subs since all his YouTube videos are shorts.
https://www.youtube.com/c/ShotoYT/videos

If Lofi can get 4k with shion and kroni, how many can she get if she use more popular member like pekora or marin?

How come Sonny Brisko was averaging 1900 CCV the last few days, but now he has the highest views in the Collab out of the Noctyx guys? He isn't even the best at this game

>>21149022
This is the dark age of vtubing.Perhaps I judged vshojo too harshly.

>>21148203
I don't think the "cull" is real and only /#/ believe it

>>21147901
Okay Koyo is getting to $100k for sure, insane achievement for her to do that 3 out of her 4 months so far
Chloe should do too as long as the next few days are strong, really crazy day for her hope she keeps up the songwriting
Nene could still do it but I'm least sure of her, she needs a really strong end to the month

>>21149154
Once again, I will remind them....
>/jp/ and /hlg/ doompost about how HoloEN will bring western degeneracy and shamelessness to vtubing
>It turns out to instead be NijiEN, and with males at that, that fulfills the predicitons

>>21149076
That one got a buff from 'BALD KRONII' from her callin to Kronii's birthday too, but yea we'll see how she does with the other members.

>>21149154
>mlaevtubing could have been brodude, couch gaming or jerma like comendinas
>is now associated to being a faggot and a manwhore lusting for other males

>>21149148
they all have almost the same ccv with only 100-200 differnce
they all are as dull as each other.

>>21149282
all HoloEN did was accelerate the process, this outcome was inevitable, things always turn to the degenerate side when they reach the mainstream western audience

>>21147978
Because SC was disabled for Elden Ring, I guess.

>>21149516
"bro" male vtuber = low viewership, low memberships, low superchat

why the fuck do you expect "bro" male vtubers?

>>21149619
everyone will do whatever necessary to survive
if hololive goes full idol, gfe "no males we are only here for our viewers"
why do you fags expect NijiEN and others to just roll over and die with 2-digit or 3-digit viewership

>>21149282
If there was no HoloEN, there would be no NijiEN

So the point still stands. Fuck HoloEN for bringing in degeneracy and western sensibilities into my anime girls

にじJP月間78枠(葛葉27枠)
にじEN月間39枠

>>21147815
>double mysta amsr with vox
>3k
uh?

>>21149885
true
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000153.000030865.html

>>21149884

>"bro" male vtuber = low viewership, low memberships, low superchat

uh, the most popular nijiJP guys disprove that. hell, even the ones on mid tier or low tier for viewership are mostly bros and get a fuckton of SCs anyway

>>21149966
>collabs
>getting high SC

>>21149884
>why do you fags expect NijiEN and others to just roll over and die with 2-digit or 3-digit viewership
coomer bait alwasy spreads on the medium and also normalizing it is bad for the quaity of it. is ok doing it once in a while even en does a asmr once a month. kinda like the bathtub meta of twitch. Also risking for youtube to get more strict.

>>21150058
why do you expect a nijisea fan to know anything about nijijp

>>21132466
I theorize that a lot of early holo EOP watchers have done their reps and can now listen to JP chuubas while missing very little.
Since it's only chat that viewers can see, they blend in with the normal viewers quite a bit. If you notice many of the JP chuubas chat have OBVIOUS English names but they all type in Japanese.
You gotta remember, this whole thing started out on /jp/ + /a/ so a lot of the weebs who were casually learning nihongo to /become/ Japanese would also have moved over.

>>21150058
That’s only for JP. If someone wanted a bro experience in the English audience they can just watch a twitch streamer. Luxiem is only popular because they appeal to women

>>21150129
you think jp doesn't have normal male streamers or something?

>>21149884
/vt/ thought that nijien was gonna get canned late last year

>>21150129
Same could be said for nips and Jun etc.

>>21150121
I mean, that or they stick solely to 草 in chat when appropriate because they know how poorly it's looked upon to start up english out of nowhere in chat after a year+ of watching (This is me). That and emotes in karaoke.

>>21150058
>>21150093
maybe there is a bit of space in JP for stuff like that but not in the west

people in the west watch bro vtubers on Twitch, they won't watch a bro vtuber with an L2D

I guess we'll have to wait and see for Holostars but I imagine it would be either Nijisanji EN style (except maybe Vox who is pretty much the only one that panders to fujos/yumejos hard) or bros that will end up with 300 CCV

>>21149884
>if hololive goes full idol, gfe "no males we are only here for our viewers"
>why do you fags expect NijiEN and others to just roll over and die with 2-digit or 3-digit viewership
There is literally no correlation between the two you schizos. Are you saying male vtubers can't just play games and be normal streamers not larping as cocksuckers........because HoloEN won't collab with males?

>>21149154
Absolutely disgusting.

>>21150468
No, I am saying that Hololive figured their identity and found sucess with that.

Nijisanji EN and especially Luxiem/Noctyx also found an identity that led them to huge success and they are sticking with it.

There is no reason to cry about one but not the other. You do whatever brings you success.

>>21144674
those are the voices in your head councilschizo aka. fulgay covid

>>21149884
>if hololive goes full idol, gfe "no males we are only here for our viewers"
>why do you fags expect NijiEN and others to just roll over and die with 2-digit or 3-digit viewership
Nothing in Holo even remotely compares to what the NijiEN males are doing.

>>21150568
>Noctyx also found an identity that led them to huge success and they are sticking with
wololol
But yeah I will say that Noctyx is definitely what "bro tuber" viewership looks like for EN vtubers.

are holoturds this insufferable? they think "vtuber culture" is this sacred thing

>>21149282
There have already been lots of shameless and degenerate JP VTubers, though.

>>21145223
>>21145729
it's not btw

>>21149282
>>21149885
>>21149999
There have already been lots of shameless and degenerate JP VTubers, though.

>>21150727
typical western whore

>>21150740
Link some, then. I wanna see it for myself.

>>21150619
What are they doing exactly you retard?
Pandering to yumejos?
Pandering to fujos?

Aren't Hololive girls pandering with GFE garbage, how many of them yuribait?

When Vox sucks cock on stream then come back and complain but until then the guys are not doing something the girls aren't doing already.

Example, you complain about Vox and Mysta offcollab ASMR when Marine and Noel had offcollab ASMR where they removed their clothes and had the mic between their fucking tits.

If you want to call Luxiem male prostitutes or manwhores then what does that make Hologirls?

>>21150727
Shut up, retard.

>>21149076
I wouldn't be surprised if someday Iosalon get 10k, it's a really creative type of content from her. Props to Lofi

>>21149516
Is that a crop of an image of Pekora getting fucked or something?

>>21150828
Typical Nijifag talking about shit they know nothing about. You should watch streams rather than choking on the shit you're trying to regurgitate.

yay koyorin managed to snag a 10k for a weekend stream, that's pretty rare for her, thanks elden ring schizo

>>21150846
Also, considering it's hairstyles, it's basically infinite content as long she paces it well.

>>21150713
the prolem is noctyx are fucking boring on solo streams. but are ok on collabs
>>21150740
the success is rare for a reason tough. And even shit like patra asmr is a weekly thing.

>>21150828
>Example, you complain about Vox and Mysta offcollab ASMR when Marine and Noel had offcollab ASMR where they removed their clothes and had the mic between their fucking tits.
at this point vox has as many asmr as noel did last year. then you are going to see the problem.

>>21150828
male fantasy bait? it goes both ways and I don't know why holobros are seething at the NijiEN males doing the same shit their girls do

The Sanbaka live made me remember 3D debuts, but it doesn’t seem like Niji has a new 3D debut next week and they still have a lot of people to go through....Although, Shellin Burgundy is speculated to finally have his 3D debut on 4/22 since the program he is on is ending on that day and he has silhouette on the schedule. https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1499703216980004869

20/02/16 - Shellin Burgundy (has model)
20/03/07 - Amemori Sayo (has model, debut was announced but cancelled)
20/04/01 - Kuroi Shiba
20/04/12 - Hayama Marin (has model)
20/09/21 - Suzuki Masaru (has model)
20/09/25 - Gwelu Os Gar
20/09/27 - Nagao Kei
20/10/25 - Kaida Haru (has model)
20/11/28 - Suzuya Aki (has model)
20/12/11 - Kitakoji Hisui
20/12/12 - Genzuki Toujirou
21/01/02 - Yamagami Karuta
21/01/09 - Sorahoshi Kirame
21/02/10 - Seto Miyako
21/02/23 - Suo Sango
21/03/22 - Todoroki Kyouko (has model)
21/05/01 - Gilzaren III
21/06/05 - Asahina Akane
21/06/06 - Kurusu Natsume
21/06/24 - Azuchi Momo
21/07/23 - Lain Peterson
21/07/23 - Leos Vincent
21/07/24 - Lauren Iroas
21/07/24 - Axia Krone
21/07/29 - Oliver Evans
21/08/05 - Asuka Hina
21/09/14 - Naruse Naru
21/10/04 - Todo Kohaku

>>21150939
Stop auto-fellating yourself, faggot. Everyone know it's you by now.

>>21151044
hey man, just a mayo slurping pink dog enjoyer

>>21150828
The holomems always try to balance entertainment and professionalism, there is no comparison

>>21149250
Kinda easy with a fucking birthday, context always please.

>>21151149
You giving credit to elden ring schizo is fucking cance, especially when all his predictions were wrong.

>>21151020
>21/01/24 - Lauren Iroas
Sure to be a titillating 3D debut and won't be a bust.

>>21151149
I will no longer watch the pink dog.

>>21151422
please do, she really appreciates everything she gets

>>21143123
Music buff.

>>21151372
What happened to the guy, anyway? Is there even a peep from him or Anykara after the nipplegate? Or are they just gonna sideline him completely until he graduates on his own?

>Gura inclining in viewership when fighting bosses
kek baby elden ring

>>21151237
>reaching this hard

The Meta knight buff....

>>21150998
>noctyx are fucking boring on solo streams. but are ok on collabs
So like Holostars?

>>21151508
SPECIFICALLY for cuties and cuties only

>>21150810
>>21150841
He's right, though. There was never a universal culture in VTubing, only viewers that watch only Hololive think that. There was way more variety in VTuber content before the Holo era, and a lot of channels like those are still active, even though they're less popular.

>>21151501
They're going to quietly remove him from everything promotional, and probably just quietly ignore him from now on.

>>21151501
I’ve seen some people say that his hiatus is only gonna be one month so he should be coming in a couple of days. He’s also speculated to be the third member for Ars and Yorumi’s team for Vsaikyo

>>21147815
How is Fulgur getting lots of superchats? I thought he filtered his audience on purpose.

>>21151508
>Kirby is cute
>Elden Ring is not cute
I've made my choice.

Post old numbers.

>>21144548
56k

>>21151697
1 month anniversary

>>21151508
Gura's brain just fucking dies when she doesn't have obvious markers telling her where to go.

>>21151473
I think you're confused.

>>21151744
You can't make this shit up.

>>21151654
He’s definitely gonna get less sponsors and be promoted less, but he could eventually be “forgiven” like Yumeoi who has been in concerts and has had merch even after his big catfishing drama

>>21150727
yes

>>21151744
No it was for his birthday. He didn't want to celebrate but his chat celebrated for him anyway.

>>21151841
It was actually his birthday, but he just called it a 1 month anniversary for some reason

How does Aki get good numbers playing Cyberpunk? I though this game is a huge debuff.

>>21150619
holos literally sell wedding rings lol

>>21151923
True, but it's not happening any time soon. A loss for Nijisanji, considering they were pushing him and now their plans are for naught.

>>21151970
Fuuchan made a rule to not talk about sub numbers in chat. Hes an weird one.

>>21151923
yeah, Yumeoi's drama was a bigger deal and he was rehabbed eventually
though that was also when Niji guys weren't as big

>>21151605
yeah except roberu

>>21151977
It's not, it's neutral/slight buff.
Bae got alright numbers but got murdered on the overlap when she played it.

>>21152024
>fuuchan

>>21152024
i respect fungus for tardwranglin his viewers but still make fun of him for trying to talk about concil

>>21151643
I don't care if they want to do bfe content tho. I just wanna see how far can it last and can they maintain that number. Can they incline? Is this the peak?

>>21151841
It's okay. Nothing will ever top Mysta's 350k celebration, followed by a 300k karaoke at 390k subs (yes, going back in time to celebrate 300k even though he already celebrated 350k) and then did a 400k celebration a day or 2 after.

>>21152024
>Fuuchan
go back now and don't come back

>>21151977
It's not a debuff at all. It's a pretty game with an interesting setting and mostly story driven.

>>21151977
Damn another collab, everyday is a collab for niji for now on i guess.

>>21152042
Rrat has a western audience though.

>>21151739
So from the picture, ony Mito, HIMEHINA, Sora, and Shion that still under 1M subs

>>21152024
He let himself be called Fuuchan? I thought this guy was trying to set himself apart from others. He ended up going that way anyway.

>>21152178
Thats what everyone in nijien except Alban calls him.

>>21151977
>Another NijiEN collab
My lord. Hopefully one day we get a vtuber company that realizes there is a middle ground between HoloEN never collabing and NijiEN doing large collabs every single day. Both approaches are equally as bad.

>>21152224
Huh, you also consider gooks to be westerners? Surprising.

>>21152273
Yugo can't pronounce Fulgur. He tries his hardest to be edgy and to filter chat and to not have any parasocial relationships, but ultimately hes too soft.

>>21151739

>>21152283
And?

>>21152429
>26k a day
Actually fucking disgusting jesas

>>21152429
oof not this one, you're gonna get a timeloop going with it

>>21151739

>>21152302
>HoloEN never collabing
?

>>21152347
>too soft
Yeah, pull the other one. He has no problem shittalking Council when they have nothing to with him.
A fucking snake is what he is.

>>21152429
Holo fes trigger this? Gura got new memes?

>>21152429
>something something black ships
>something something rent free
>timeloop timeloop timeloop

>>21152539
Lmao get over it

>>21152564
How do you not recreate Ai's downfall? What if the new vtubing meta ends up being TikTok shorts or some shit?
>>21152581
Neck yourself retardchama

>>21152581
Blind-chama....
Please take a very careful look at those sub totals.

>>21152429
ah, I miss those sub gains, what glorious days they were

>>21151977
JP raid in about 2 hours. Aki pls get 5k.

>>21152471
It was absolutely insane, the seethe in the threads was delightful

>>21152603
Make me.

>>21152648
>What if the new vtubing meta ends up being TikTok shorts or some shit?
Nina or Hoshikawa will become the new Vtuber queen if that happens

>>21152564
>From 22 to 1.6M
What a journey

>>21152024
>Fuuchan

>>21152648
>not recreate Ai's downfall
Easy. Don't treat a chuuba's RM as VA that you can just replace them willy nilly.

>>21152067
>>21152273
>>21152744
see
>>21152283

>turns off superchat during the reading again
Gura...this is why people end up making fun of your SC numbers

>>21152564
how did Hololive even manage to incline so much, why did YouTube decide to favour their clips so much? I'm starting to think that watamage is real and that it transcends time

>>21152903
What about it?

>>21147978

Pretty sure Holo still has more overall SCs this month. Taking a quick look at Playboard there's like, there's another 5 20k+ earners in HoloJP this month (Korone, Okayu, Subaru, Botan, Lui). Shion streaming just 3 times made like, 14k too.

For comparison, NijiJP is very top heavy on celebrations, like, half of the SCs here >>21147901 are from Gaku 3D, lol.

>>21152984
Wrong thread, retard.

>>21153035
>this is the thread that spent all day talking how shameless NijiEN is
It's the right thread, retard.

>>21152952
Holo clippers made 1 and a half minute-long clips, while Niji clippers made several minute-long clips. Potential new viewers aren't gonna sit down for several minutes to watch those videos.

>>21152903
Money from SC's don't matter for Gura. Maybe they do for shitters like Rosemi and Pomu but not for Gura.

>>21153122
>muh quality
>muh numbers don't matter
Kys, retard. This is the numbers thread, more superchat numbers = good, turning of superchats = bad.

>>21152952
Success is 9/10 luck and 1/10 skill, but it takes the right types of skills for certain kinds of luck.
Memes and hard work, combined with the misfortune of their competition.

>>21153202
brb robbing a bank

>>21151739

>>21152985

yeah if anything SCs for holo still are strong, just that they don't have a single amazing earner like rushia was.

>>21153202
>turning of

Neck yourself seanigger

>>21142261
>sub gain
This is a new low for us Nippleniggers

>>21151020
Damn, so many people on that list and I watch none of them.

>>21153372
could be a spic, remember, we're in free-for-all hours right now.

>>21153372
>>21153472
I just didn't notice that I didn't press it twice before posting.

>>21152903
Anon...even Kiara turn off superchats during the akasupa reading. Unless is a stream with a low superchat traffic like Yakuza.

>>21152680
It also left long lasting scars.

>>21152952
Yagoo gathered way too much good karma from being the chronic saviorfag that he is.
Joking aside, it's simply because Hololive seized and didn't waste any opportunity that came their way. Still do, in fact. Also, the 'no one left behind' and 'everyone gets a piece of the pie' philosophy they employ are pretty great, even from business perspective.

>>21151020
Is there somewhere you can see which Niji members out of all of them already have models or not? I haven't found anywhere that has info for all of them.

>>21153185
Now I wonder if there are any vtubers who makes more from membership than SC, surely there are a bunch but unfortunately we have no way of checking

>>21153700
Maybe the HoloIDs?

>>21153143
I'm a holo fan but I'd rather there are more slightly longer clips, seems like every clip is under one minute these days. Sure it drives up more clicks for the clippers but now it leads to tons of clickbait content and not enough context to actually show what the streamer is like

>>21153700
Well, from Holos the only one I remember is Moona saying most of her monthly revenue comes from membership and adrev. Also, Coco saying SC only made around 30% of her earning, even though at that point she was already the most superchatted Youtuber on the entire planet.

>>21153825
The problem is that right now, Youtube's algo is prioritizing 'watch session time' and clippers noticed it and hopped on to the current meta.
Just by sheer brute-force, the clippers managed to 'crack' the current meta, so until Youtube decides to adjust things again, the goal is to get people to click through multiple clips in a single session.

>>21154035
When was the last time Youtube actually changed the algorithm anyways?
Felt like its been years since it last happened since it's already fine tuned for advertisers at this point.

>>21154014
Any Holo that has low SC amounts but really good viewership likely makes the bulk of their YT income from memberships. Like La+.

>>21151020
>2 3D debuts in 3 months
Lazulight will get their in 2026 at this rate, Luxiem in 2029.

>>21153825
There's a lot of Holo clippers who makes longer clips, you just have to find them. Example being Vtuberbits or VtuberZaibatsu, just off the top of my head.

>>21154154
The number of Nijisanji graduations...

>>21152903
お金が全てじゃないぞ

>>21154229
>graduations
Who cares, Accelerikur is gonna debut 20 gens in that period.

>>21154229

>>21154199
And then there's Mechanico who makes entire movies out of Holo content.

>>21154439
kek

>>21151643
Weren't the big 4 prior to Hololive flat out idols too?

>>21143016
She's streaming on both days of the weekend actually

>these reddit review numbers
I used to rule the world...EOPs would gather when I gave the word

>>21154790
she need to to do it weekly and have a guest
get the plebbitor to churn out shit memes again

>>21154790
Let my autistic daughter alone, she's slowly incling again

>>21154937
>Incling

I swear I'm not SEA, I just have a brain tumor

>>21151020
Has Nijisanji ever had a 3d debut with a foreign liver before?

So haachama is a mod on r/hololive and she's just showing stats. Apparently some random clip of Ina saying TOMORROW has 681k views

>>21154937
Why is her video delayed?

>>21155045
No.

So blue id girl Gold tomorrow and so far, Kiara collab EN gold right?

>>21154790
Who's doing a Reddit review right now?

>>21155060

>>21155060
When do we going to get 4chan shitpost review? Now that's brings numbers.

Kumarba is the most viewed Japanese VTuber, more views that Kizuna Ai, Kuzuha and Pekora.

>>21155045
VirtuaReal is pretty much their Chinese branch and they have, but other than that nah

>>21155291
*than

>>21152564
How nostalgic I still remember when kizuna had her 1 million subs celebration, I can't believe it's been almost half a decade after that.

>>21155291
KINGMARBA I KNEEL

What's that drop with Shu and Alban's stream?

>chammers not even gonna break 10k
c-can we put her on the EN gold chart at least?

>>21155476
God damn another collab!

>>21155476
Why don't you check it out and report your finding? I'm busy watching Lui right now.

>>21155476
woah 40k combined, nice going nijien

>>21155546
Even K*son gave up on meme review, it's not the same anymore.

do people really like blue archive that Fauna is getting 6k despite overlapping a meme review

>>21155216
real views or inflated reddit views for ad money?

>>21155546
You really want to degrade her into that special Olympic? Why do you hate her so much?

>>21155707
That lower than she can get playing actual games but better than non-know indie games, Fauna doesn't suffer from overlap that much at all.

>>21155707
could get more if she was whaling

>>21155711
dunno, does the ui in new reddit autoplay videos, because if it does it's inflated, however in old reddit ui you have to click to watch

>>21155707

Sapling is no joke. They don't care for anything except Fauna.

>>21155707
Fauna's got good floor. Also,
>Swimsuit

>>21155707
>Swimsuit ver. Units
There's your answer. Also Gura ended and funneled like, 1.5k to Faufau.

>>21155986
>Swimsuit ver. Units
What the fuck it's not even April yet

>>21155834
just tested it, it autoplays when the post is visible. default is muted. if i scroll past, it pauses and if i go back up it plays again.

>>21152564
>going from total nobodies to the most subbed vtubers in the world
Man, hololive really blew up in subs after Myth's debut. What a gamechanger.

>>21155651
Her meme reviews were basically facebook memes and then a whole section devoted to Florida man.
The thing that made her meme review "special" were the reactions of the HoloJP members.

>>21156420
Meme review is basically a glorified 51 club house collab.

Anyone knows when is hachaama gonna open back her superchats? Feels like closing monetization is actively hurting her.

>>21156463
Yeah, what makes it great is introducing the JP member to the reddit audience and seeing her reactions. Solo reddit memes would probably be interesting if the memes are funny, but of course they're not.

This is why I really admired Coco's work ethic, doing asacoco and this shit requires not only huge amount of effort and discipline to do it every week, but you need to be social enough to actually get a new holo to join every week and adapt to her. I miss that bitch.

>>21155707
Speaking of Fauna's stream.
https://wesave.chat/user/UC5Fzg2PVLV1vSA-yQtVmzcw/

>>21155707
maybe kr audiance? they love blue archive

>>21156680

>Elira Pendora 【NIJISANJI EN】

heh

>>21156680

Average pathetic nijinigger fan. This is why they'll always be the laughing stock on this board.

>>21152024
Fulgur is one of the most anti-numberfags for his own channel, you can't make shit up
>shit talked vox on twitter before debut as a banter to the point he got a lot of chinese sisters as antis
>made his debut extremely kayfabe before going normal on the next stream
>tried to make a ton of rules to filter the luxiem audience
>criticized the luxiem audience for pandering in scs
>felt umcomfortable to say I love you back to his audience and had to be convinced that people saying I love to you to him was just an appreciation
>said you can't speak chinese on his channel, only japanese and english
>When collab with Vox, he bullied him so hard in Smash Bros that Vox got down at the end because he lost so much
>play just games he wants to play without caring if the female audience likes it or not
>didn't make any promotion for his birthday
>spent his birthday alone with his chat and didn't let anyone join his stream
And I probably forgot more. But even with this he's doing relatively well i guess

>>21156943
>started streaming fag
>has one comment in korone's chat
i know what kind of chatter they are

https://twitter.com/akidearest/status/1507540422482337793

>>21152429
I wonder if this feat could ever possibly be topped in the future of vtubing

>>21155045
Only VirtuaReal

>>21156680
I guess that is the difference between HoloCHADs who hate NijiEN and Nijikeks who hate HoloEN. HoloCHADs like me would never bother watching even a second of NijiEN. Going into their chat room gives them a view and that is not something I would ever want to do. Nijikeks, on the other hand, have Hololive living rent free in their head and are absolutely obsessed with Hololive so stuff like this happens. They just can't help themselves.

>>21156993
that's pretty cheap for rare collector item. assuming that's hand signed.

It's gonna be a bloodbath at this hour again with lots of Holos streaming at the same time.
Nijisanji has really declined as a box. Without tournaments to artificially inflate their numbers up, they look weak in comparison to Hololive.

>>21156993
I fucking knew I should have invested in Rushia merch.

>>21152648
>What if the new vtubing meta ends up being TikTok shorts or some shit?
Well, one of the biggest indies on twitch got her initial boost because of those clips. Though it'd be hard to replicate now because of the current "little anime girl = pedo" mentality.

5 streams going on jp and 3 of them are holoX, they always end up overlapping each other

>>21156973
I think he's also the only one in Noctyx that doesn't do 100k subs celebration/endurance stream.

Koyori lost some views, did they go for her genmates?

https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1507930270661775362

Towa team practice (Towa-Sui-Aqua) as the same time as the ID debut, ouch
No JP tourists for that one, for sure

>>21157340
Oh shit, yeah, no kidding. That's gonna have a real impact on her numbers.

>>21157325

Iroha Sekiro

>>21157325
she lost a bunch to lui but so far almost none to iroha, however she had some really weird drops during this stream that i'm guessing are internet related but the stream's been fine for me
also, i wouldn't blame anyone to stop watching, koyo hasn't fought a single boss in 3 hours and has done nothing but run through areas not killing anything and screaming a lot

>>21157340
oof

>>21157340
10pm JST is just an awkward time for debut. You can't expect people who have already started streaming before that time to cut their streams short.

>>21153697
85 out of 110 have 3D models.
https://wikiwiki.jp/nijisanji/3D%E3%83%A2%E3%83%87%E3%83%AB%E3%81%BE%E3%81%A8%E3%82%81

>>21152471
gura actually killed sub numberfagging forever, it's kind of a tragedy

>>21157439
VR models don't count.

>>21154229
There's barely any graduation on Nijisanji outside of KR.

>>21157340
That one is super cruel, I mean the others at least only got normal stream overlaps and no one actually playing buff games but this is just a huge buff stream, what the hell.

>>21157482
ID manechan...

>>21157270
The antics surrounding her termination probably made it looked like a damaged goods rather than a collector item. You could already see it from how cheap her new Weiss SP card priced in the market.

>>21154154
Huge waste of money if they can't get Luxiem 3d sometime in the next year or two somehow. But hey, gotta have your principles

>>21156680
>>21156943
nijinigger who watches korone.. sometimes this board will understand that many watch both holoen and nijien

>>21157629
>one comment 2 years ago

>>21157629
Hololive is universally respected.

>>21157629
check the date, it's probably one of those ex holofag turned nijinigger holoanti

I’m so sorry Iroha… you’ve been cursed being put in a gen with the holo leech who steals ideas and fans from everyone and leaves nothing for you… I’ll make sure to give Roboco and Choco a heads up to welcome you to their home…

>>21157340
Ngl this is cruel, i am having a hard time picking which stream to watch kek

Will Aqua-Towa-Suisei Apex scrim really make this much difference? They will just get Apex tourists anyway, having Pekora or Marine at the same time as you hurt your numbers way more.

>>21157785
what the fuck does that mean phoneposter

>>21157861
Her numbers are dropping because when you have a confirmed boyfriend your core fanbase dwindles.

>Italian airforce has a vtuber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGZKKXTNcE8

predictions, numerifratelli?

>>21157898
Fuck off unicorn

>>21157785

she should have moved her stream 1 hour or 2 from now. two of her genmates streaming aside from the other overlaps

even miko is starting 3 hours later today

>>21157340
It's so funny how there's no criticism for this even though they are all a "family" and how everyone is connected and blablabla

>>21157898
Laplus has a girlfriend and no one care.

>>21157629
>>21157726

More like a 12yo who saw the Eekum bokum meme and want to join the cool gang, but gave up because he didn't know any nihongo.

>>21157476
It's not counted in the first place. If it was, this would be more than 90.

>>21157943
The hell are you talking about?

>>21157906
ma perchè

>>21157943
JP are still butthurt over ID stealing all the attention from them during holofes, forgive them

>>21157898
>confirmed boyfriend
since when

>>21157785

Faggot. Look at her stream, those 2k are all her members/gachikoi. She literally tourist free. That's why the number is so low

Is Fauna one of the few to actually always get a nice portion of Gura views funneled? I guess being a declared chumbud got her some extra fans

>>21158005
All the box talking of this thread and how in hololive you give space in debuts and events and what not, only for this to happen.

>>21157943
Do you stop doing your daily things just because some unknown family member is having a special day?

>>21157861
Koyori
>Appears in every single collab
>Forces herself in everyone’s totsus
>”Coincidentally” shows up on Pekora’s return to MC stream
>Steals morning talk shows from Mio
>Steals baby schtick from Miko with rattle and pacifier
>Does anything in her power to grab attention

>>21156517
she seems to have a member's stream later today so she might address it and I'll be asking the haaton afterwards, as far as I know currently she doesn't have any plans on reopening it, and it's pretty obvious that it's hurting her anon, there's zero dispute there, this has ben discussed a hundred times already
her channel growth alone should tell you that it's hurting her

>>21158085
Do your research first nijinigger.

>>21157785
Who is Holo leech? Koyo? Lui? The hell...

>>21158152
It hurts Cover more than it hurts her and that's what matters to Haachama.

>21158149
Work on your baiting reps

>>21158149
oh damn, koyori got a schizo while being just an 8k streamer, she's moving up in the world

>>21157340
I thought collabs were exceptions

>21158211
>21158215
Nijinigger posting on cd

>>21158215
haachama never got that many supas outside of supas stream anyways, which she barley did
this isn't about cover, this is about her thinking that thanking the viewer for a supa isn't enough and it was stressing her out

>>21157943
JPs will only avoid overlaps with JP events, this isn't anything new.

>>21158036
/jp/ found her on a voice chat with a male predebut. He was giving her pointers on APEX's meta.

>>21158297
anon?

>>21158320
>JPniggers doing their best to sabotage Mori and still getting mogged
You love to see it.

>>21158085
You're kind of 2 days late to the party with that shit, anon. Zeta the first one to debut was overlapped, Kaela yesterday was also overlapped. There's literally nobody who would expect the last one to not get overlapped.

>>21158324
is it that Twitch clip? They found that shit on her debut day

>>21158320
>the entirety of HoloX
damn, they were brutal huh

>>21158393
I know but schizos still bring it up monthly.

>>21157943
>>21158023
>>21158085
>>21158215
>>21158320
>>21158324
Why are Nijiniggers like this?

Does this reflect the current vtubing hierarchy?
Hololive > Niji males > other female vtubers > Niji females > Sony

>>21158215
Lmao they fucking cut Rushia off, haachama doesn't hurt cover.

>>21143123
Kizuna Ai reached 2M in 593 days, even HoloX can't surpass her.

So sekiro is a debuff compare to elden ring?

>>21158430
you have to rank vspos these days

>>21158430
HoloJP > Kuzuha/Toya > NijiMales > HoloEN > VSPO > Nijifemales

>>21158511
Vspo is above Niji females.
other female vtubers > Niji females

>>21158407
That was a little after their debut too. They streamed over like 3 myth outfits. It was pretty fucking gross

wait haachama broke 5k on her stream today? surprised, her numbers are so fucking wonky....it's weird

>>21158407
Iroha is even being forgot as a member now... my poor Iroha...

>>21158044
If this assumption is correct, we might need to observe how Mori's viewers have any impact on Irys and Bae since they are the closest. Gura for Mumei, Fauna, Kronii and Mori for Irys and Bae.

>>21158568
They got what they deserved, their popularity plummeted after that. The EN fanbase saw how disrespectful they were and stopped watching.

The ID debut is going to do even worse than the previous one.