/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Today's Superchats

>>21003880
March superchats so far
>Gaku - $207,404 (+$1,035)
>Vox - $112,998 (+$0)
>Koyori - $93,055 (+$1,354)
>Nene - $91,366 (+$3,661)
>Miko - $76,954 (+$3,165)
>Chloe - $70,157 (+$272)
>Leos - $68,009 (+$155)
>Mysta - $55,230 (+$0)
>Luca - $54,308 (+$0)
>Akina - $49,208 (+$0)
>kson - $49,095 (+$703)
>Suisei - $49,075 (+$0)
>Lamy - $47,761 (+$61)
>Shu - $46,435 (+$0)
>Kronii - $41,620 (+$0)
>Iroha - $39,517 (+$400)
>Pekora - $39,474 (+$707)
>Marine - $38,363 (+$711)
>Kana - $35,911 (+$0)
>Laplus - $35,861 (+$0)
>Flare - $34,020 (+$246)
>Ike - $33,271 (+$0)
>Watame - $33,267 (+$542)
>Kiara - $32,737 (+$0)
>Alban - $32,474 (+$2,238)
>IRyS - $32,463 (+$2,180)
>Noel - $30,327 (+$0)

* TALLY OF THE DAY *

>36,740: Subaru (Hololive)
>33,130: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,486: Marine (Hololive)
>20,223: Hal (Neo Porte)
>19,614: Botan (Hololive)
>19,219: Miko (Hololive)
>18,410: Yozuna Niu (Neo Porte)
>18,036: Miko (Hololive)
>17,586: Gura (Hololive)
>17,364: Ange (Nijisanji)
>15,869: IRyS (Hololive)
>13,622: Ina (Hololive)
>13,003: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>12,642: Mio (Hololive)
>12,208: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,689: Mio (Hololive)
>11,557: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>11,246: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>11,214: Risu (Hololive)
>10,991: Nazuna Kaga (VSPO)
>10,807: Towa (Hololive)
>10,262: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,201: Alban (Nijisanji)

>>21003724

Ah, peace

Mumei cant even get 15k from karaoke now...

What is Mumei doing?

And by no one surprise Ina views didn't go to watch Bae or Mumei, stop crying about overlap already.

>>21005575
they both only got +1K

>>21005222
she's not actually doing karaoke. she's just meming one song

>>21005575
?
Bae ->+800 and rising
Mumei -> +1200, but people getting filtered so it's dropping again.

>>21005222
>spams 1 song
>karaoke
She had almost 18k on her recent karaoke, anon.

>>21005557
Shitposting, and Fungus is losing his shit that she can pull above average numbers for it.

>>21005575
they probably went to sleep after 6 hours

>>21005689
>>21005720
So 9k views got lost, not worth it, better to just overlap.

>>21005575
i hate takodachis

>>21006646
Not as much as I hate cumkek

>>21005575
if she ended earlier it would have been different just like how gura got 3k from ina finishing.
but ina is streaming too long now days.

/#/ is declining.

>>21005575
I love takodachis

>Now mumei wont finish her shitpost
do these girls even check each other schedules?

>>21006387
Wait, I though collab fee is a shitpost ...

>>21006981
holo time is precious

>>21006911
If she wants to continue her shitpost, she’ll just change the stream title again like she did the past two times.

>>21006794
hey man.

>>21006981
He not even JP, not a friend of anyone either, it's not a collab fee more like like he buyed sponsored stream and he himself is the sponsored product.

Every once in a while, people ask about what the best value membership is, and while surely that's an emotional decision, I see no reason to not try to apply numbers to it and pretend like there is an objective answer.

Is there anywhere that actually does a good job of scraping member stream lengths?

>>21007237
it's gura.

Seeing that Mumei is still going I'm happy that Ina stayed as long she could to overlap this bitch.

>>21007237
Gura 100%

>>21007293
it probably is gura or ame, but I was wondering if Sana's member streams made up a larger percentage of her total streaming time than anyone else

>>21007237
Imagine paying for membership ever when they get uploaded for free on N y a a

>>21007237
I like Laplus membership, she does it a good amount of time and they are always fun streams.

>>21007237
From a standpoint of 'who does the most stuff in member's streams' it's Gura, hands down, unless you're very specifically looking for say, ASMR, in which case I think some of the JP memeberships would be better.

>>21007384
kek

>>21007410
if we're talking about "best value", percentage of total streaming time isn't relevant. streams/hours per month would be the important stats.

>>21005575
Takodachis don't watch multiple streams. They just watch Ina as their sleeping pill. That's why Ina has good CCV but garbage VOD views.

>>21007237
Gura, she doesnt like greys and with a chat as fast as her members streams she doesnt have to care anyways.

>>21005575
Anon, is 4am over here, I'm going to bed.
We don't get to catch many streams in EU time, but we do have Watame into Ina, then sleep.
Outside of the weekends, the rest of JP are during work hours and EN is at 2-7 am.
So I'm greatful to at least watch Ina every time and that's it.
Good night.

>>21007237
You can easily get the length (excluding unarchived), but the "value" of those is pretty personnal

>>21007237
Luna does membership stream more than once a week.

>>21007777
Kek
For EU is either that or Kiara (Is Kiara still stream in EU times nowadays?)

>>21007237
Value wise, it's Gura.
But for the preference side, when (if) she streams it's at 3am for me so, since i never caught her live oitside of collabs, there's not much worth in membering.

Anons, how do you keep your 4chan self from infecting your real self? I almost said nigger to one of my coworkers because he was annoying.

I'm kinda hyped for the ID3 now, I hope they are good.

>>21007957
No, she's basically in JP time slot.
Starts way early in the day and her stream length varies wildly so you might not catch even the Super tangent part.
Flare and Korone are more EU friendly, but streams have been more random this past year.

>>21008139
Take a break from 4chan and go touch some grass or something. Have some self-restraint you faggot.

>>21008257
Shion was the best EU girl.

>>21008238
Any sub cull yet?

>>21008139
If you cant touch grass, touch grace your coworker

>>21008257
>No, she's basically in JP time slot.
Her earliest stream is 11PM JST, most of the time she start even later than that. In which world is she on the JP time slot ?

>>21008139
There was a bad female driver who almost crashed into me the other day and I called her a nigger on reflex and my brother stared at me like I just committed murder.
I also have to actively filter out Zhang and Chink from my vocabulary when speaking irl, especially since I'm chinese myself and literally surrounded by zhangs and chinks.

In numbers news, Bae might reach 6k afterall after Mumei ended her stream.10k for a 2 POV manga reading isn't that bad also.

>>21008457
is still stupid
there is no reason for a 2 pov manag
>kadokawa paid for 2 streams
MAKES NO SENSE

>>21008457
>especially since I'm chinese myself and literally surrounded by zhangs and chinks
How does it feel to be a self-aware bug?
Petra?

>>21008457
Chinkchama...don't hate yourself, (you) aren't a bug

>>21008396
Late night in SEA time + JST is better for Japs than Euros because that's the afternoon of EU time when people are still in school/working. Japs are famous for watching really late night vtuber streams anyways. Lockdowns are over for most western countries so afternoon isn't as good as nighttime anymore.
Ina's time is the best time for EU.
Mysta and Vox also stream in SEA+JST.

>>21008757
>Stream starting at 10PM are the best for EU
Only if you're a neet, most people will go to sleep before she even did half of her stream.

>>21008657
>>21008707
Overseas Chinese like me know the vileness of mainland bugs more than most.

Still no holojp stream at 10:00 slot, 70k might be possible.

>>21008396
True, ER and Yakuza are at 23, but that's 3pm here, still got 3 more hours of work to go. Even those in Rushia and Turkey only catch a bit of it.
The rest of her time is even more off depending on collabs.
https://vrabi.net/channel/UCHsx4Hqa-1ORjQTh9TYDhww
Plus, Watame usually starts streaming by the time we het to watch streams.

>>21008964
Thing is, the stream she slot at 3PM are long streams, where she goes for 6 hours+ anyway, it will always end up going into EU comfort zone.

>>21008912
Most streams peak 20-40 mins when the stream starts. Any time from 6-12pm is fair game. NA time is fucked because of PST and EST so late night is very different.
Also, sleeping viewers don't leave so they are the best viewers. Just look at Kuzuha's 12 hour Elden Ring streams that start at 11pm JST.

>>21008912
>Watching streams at 10pm
Why do you think people watch Watame and Ina anon?
sometimes ExLulu

>>21007237
Why are you all retards responding with "It's X or Y" when my man here is asking for a site or tool? though I don't know of any

>>21008707
>>21008457
i lol'd. but yah, male asians in the west are bros. it's just the women who become as retarded as white women. also hapas in the west have a chip on their shoulder for some reason

>>21009060
yeah but is not the same entering mid stream. and usually the game portion ends by 6pm

>>21008139
I'm just not mentally deficient anon, it's not hard.

>>21009172
>Join every membership
>Do it yourself
Still Gura btw, formerly Gibara.

>>21008457
>brother stared at me like I just committed murder.
>I also have to actively filter out Zhang and Chink from my vocabulary when speaking irl, especially since I'm chinese myself and literally surrounded by zhangs and chinks
Damn are you me?

>>21009215
The thing is the moment you stream 4hours + you're going to overlap with your viewers comfort zone. Any working person will rarely have 4 hours of unfiltered time, unless it infringe on their work hours, commute hours, dinner hours or sleeping hours.

>>21008139
half of my family is jewish and I've been frequenting /pol/ for a decade and think the holocaust is at most vastly overstated. you just get used to making sure the way you talk and the things you type are extremely separated

>>21009060
Kiara does very long SC readings after her gaming portions so usually when it gets to EU friendly times, she's reading SCs and people aren't going to stay for long.

In general, people usually rush into streams and they peak in the first hour. After that, it's either retention or slow decline. You're not going to find a sudden group of viewers 2-3 hours into a stream unless you're at a meme moment in a game or someone funnels you.

>>21009379 (me)
I say that as Luca starts to incline 1.5 hrs into his minecraft stream because Shu and Sonny joined VC.
I miss HoloEN minecraft.

>>21009542
nah uki finished and realesed 1k for him

>>21009172
how do you plan on doing that without having memberships across hundreds of channels

>>21009682
See >>21007840

is a dam shame for bae, could have easily gotten 7k-8k since she peak a stream on guras day off
but ina went over her
mumei also went over her with a guerrilla shitpost.

>>21008912
>Only if you're a neet
Anon, who do you think this kind of thing is for?

>>21009379
It's also weird joining a Kiara stream late in specifically.
Not just because she's 3 hours into a game and you misseda lot, but the way she tells stories in jumps and fragments betwen tangents, you end deeling like you caught only the punchline, no buildup.
They're good stories, but walking in on the last 1/3rd isn't satisfying.

>>21009202
hapas hate themselves because they all know they're the product of yellow fever.

>>21009856
Anon, if you're a neet, this discussion is irrelevant, you will watch your oshi when she stream, no matter the time

No wonder more NA people are watching the guys more, they are entertaining. I feel like these NijiEN could incline similar to Dream.

>>21009967
luca droped from 11k minecraft to 6k

bros, I want my own kronii to read manga with

>>21010010
Tons of voice actors on fiverr. Hire one

>>21009967
I hate the luxiem shitposter so much. You can tell its one guy because he keeps saying retarded shit like this.

>>21010002
Because it was originally going to be an Elden Ring stream, which women don't care about. He delayed stream and changed it to Minecraft because the 23GB patch would take hours for him to download.

>>21007237
holo for ASMR i think it's okayu, the other girls' asmr are too similar.

>>21010141
The thing is Luxiem actually gets pretty good numbers these days so you don't even need to resort to sounding so retarded.
Mysta and Vox's daily numbers are pretty top tier for Manjisanji now and Luca is basically Fuwa-lite.
They're just missing the insane peaks that NijiJP males can get, but that's more of a NijiEN problem.

>>21009967
Holofags will never accept that Luxiem is mogging their whores. They will keep saying it is one guy samefagging this opinion when it's clear Luxiem is inclining hard.

>>21010202
thumbnail changed, title changed, enough time for peopel to realize
if you check uki had the same shit with the kusoge he plays becasue controller problems and inclined after changing to minecraft to 5k

>>21010202
It's more on overlap than schedule change.
If anything his number would be worse right now if he was playing Elden Ring.

>>21008457
>Zhang and Chink from my vocabulary when speaking irl, especially since I'm chinese myself
I cracked lmao, careful out there my man

>>21010377
the only one overlaping him is uki who has 1.7k views
he doesnt share viewers with the girls.

>>21010455
Fulgur is getting fucked too, but it's moreso Elira who has 3.8k viewers. Luca was playing with her earlier and she had 5.8k. Him starting minecraft took away 2k of her viewers, but it's still overlap.

>>21009967
Isn't their viewership demographic weirdly disproportionate with a massive chunk of their audience leaning more towards East/SEA than NA?

>>21010455
Fulgur with 1.5k as well
Also, Elira started streaming Minecraft and played with Luca for an hour or so before Luca started his stream, so some viewers might not have made the switch.

The midget posting, VShojo laughs at you

>>21010590
>>21010648
if they were luca viewers they would have made the switch already. there is no reason to not watch his pov.
he is not affected by overlap with the girls only the boys and they get fucked rather than him only other luxiem affects his numebrs.

Are EN numbers harder to predict compared to JP numbers?

>>21007237
I honestly believe the only reason nousagis member to pekora despite having almost no member content is so they can spam her emotes in bunbuncha.

>>21010842
Honestly yes.
EN viewers are very picky and there's not many "safe" predictions outside of Minecraft/Karaoke/Elden Ring = good numbers and SC readings is bad numbers.
We can't even say Gura is going to get 17-18k for sure nowadays.

For example, after getting 9.5k on ep 1 Cyberpunk, I would've predicted Bae to get 7-8k for ep 2. But now even with most of the overlap gone, she couldn't get 6k for ep 2. The funnels she got from all the big streams ending faded quickly.

She isn't letting it go...

>>21009967
That's their target, they're aiming for that Dream SMP MCYT audience

>>21011238
Yagoo was stupid for going after EN viewers. They don't pay for shit. Even HoloFes1 was more successful because there were more paying customers in the Chinese market.

Vshojosisters, its over. Adhd goblin is squatting the vtuber category again.

>>21011403
Does she think she can get Moona or Risu numbers by doing this? How pathetic that Luxiem's protege is this bad.

>>21011238
is already 3hr into the stream there was no way bae would get a boost after mumei finished
the box works best by jp girls finsihing their streams almost at the same time as other starts theirs

>>21011405
Would you believe me if I said that a clip of NijiEN guys playing MC was shared around in a popular Dream fan discord?

>>21011451
shoto now gets more numebrs than noctyx
fucking leeching working wonders

>>21011451
Shxtou really blew up. He is now the king of male indies (non-converts)

https://yutura.net/news/archives/72957
Interesting numbers
>Junichi Kato interview
>Jun made around 200 million yen from his wedding SC
>Youtube took 120 million yen
So for his case SC 120/200 = 60% cut. Isn't this higher than Coco's rate?
Or he's lying?

>>21011569
he does BFE on par with Vox

>>21011598
if you arent on youtube partner program they take a bigger cut.

>>21011569
>>21011582
Who's shoto?

>>21011447
Do we have numbers for HoloFes ticket sales?

>>21011737
Male indie.
14k with Vox It takes 2. (9k on twitch)
17k with Mysta Super bunnyman. (10k on twitch)

>>21011737
an indie that has been leeching of luxiem
he was mystas superbunny aprtner and if you are male then i dont recomend watching that vod.

>Kadokawa manga
They're still in bed with Cover. Pisses me off since I hate Kadokawa.

>>21011598
He still made $650k from one stream. That's utterly insane.

>>21011853
Better Kadokawa than Konami

>>21011598
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7288782#zippy=%2Crevenue-reporting%2Crevenue-share
>Creators receive 70% of Supers revenue that is confirmed by Google. The 70% is calculated after local sales tax and App Store fees on iOS are deducted. >Transaction costs, including credit card fees, are currently covered by YouTube.
Either something is lost in translation or Jun is lying
>>21011633
Shut up twitchtard.

>>21011853
Should have gone with NijiEN instead. Girls read mang more than guys.
Also, are there any NijiEN guys that Trash Taste can interview?

>>21011518
Yeah I wasn't expecting much after the first hour, but I'm moreso surprised how awful the viewer retention is for CP2077. This timeslot isn't even bad but she's bleeding viewers.

>>21011928
Yugo

Uki ending pushes luka to almost 8k
noctys is really feeding from the same pool fo viewers of luxiem.
>>21011952
she has been 5k almost all the time retention is good but would have been bettr if she had started with no overlap or got some early funnel from ina and fauna.

>>21011928
I read the webnovel of this manga. It's pretty shitty and nothing women like except the MC's worship (fujos think it's homolust) of his little brother.

>>21011405
How big is Dream audience?

>>21011910
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/2e4eaf1714b6d13c11d1d2cbc393cbb3a0c2f663
their basis was playboard

>>21008139
I try to be a decent person on here too so it's not really a problem for me. Give that a shot.

>>21012118
Every time he streams, he mogs Coco graduation

>>21012160
Not Coco's, but he mogs Lulu's graduation (~200k).

>>21011853
Sorry what's that? I can't hear you over the sound of all this money I'm sitting on

>>21008139
4chan is not real anon, take your meds.

>>21012235
He mogs nijisanji basically.

>>21012119
Oh so it's actually him taking a cut of 120 million, that's the 30% his actual revenue for that stream was around 400 million? 2x higher than the data from playboard.
Make senses bc playboard can't catch all the SCs.

how we coping today holoen bros? rumao

>>21012235
>>21012118
leeching on dream audience are pretty lucrative too. I've seen people that get associated with him get numbers that beat xqc stream on the right condition.

>>21012118

>>21012370
NijiEN is basically sitting on an unexplored gold mine if they become the Dream SMP of vtubers. Fuck that idol shit, this is how you spread vtuber culture.

>>21012370
goddamn, quackity inclined hard after switching from reddit reading meta to minecraft content.

Shxtou/Shoto has been gaining a lot of subscribers after collabing with Niji EN often.

low effort bait, be more creative like your predecessors that ended up on the Nijicoep list

what's with this unironic male prostitute shill that keeps happening in this thread?

>>21012282
went archive diving

2022-03-11 23:23:50 TO 2022-03-12 00:23:47 - $26,992.49, Count: 1661
2022-03-12 00:23:56 TO 2022-03-12 01:23:51 - $36,360.32, Count: 2301
2022-03-12 01:24:52 TO 2022-03-12 02:24:50 - $154,133.22, Count: 8584
2022-03-12 02:25:06 TO 2022-03-12 03:25:08 - $1,136,729.32, Count: 60300
2022-03-12 03:25:33 TO 2022-03-12 04:25:34 - $358,337.23, Count: 18935
2022-03-12 04:25:44 TO 2022-03-12 05:25:45 - $564683.24, Count: 39573
2022-03-12 05:25:54 TO 2022-03-12 05:27:10 - $1572.12, Count 119 (final few minutes)

$2,278,807.94 superchats in 6 hours.

ye he earned 400m or $4m+

Dream = niji en lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You need to check your brain.

>>21012460
Dream SMP minecraft audience is like apex numbers, you have an unloyal audience who are full of kids that won't pay. So there are a tradeoff in digging that hole.

Oh, is it e-celeb hours?

>>21012527
he went full BFE
which make me wonder if this path wouldnt lead to also a ban like what happened with choco and mel early on.

>>21012527
it's been like this for like 2 months
yes it's awful

>>21012632
No. Anime boys = AOKAY because no booba. Simple as, and it's why we'll NEVER see full on Hololive summer again on YouTube.

>>21012622
It's just nijipajeets and their "what if" scenarios.

I just realized that both streams are linked on the Bookwalker site. They probably have both perspectives up as a request from the company wanting to make sure the manga reaches the maximum amount of viewers without regards for how stupid it is for the actual streamer.

>>21012370
btw this is 2022 dream

>>21011952
In what world is this graph bleeding viewers?

>>21011403
>>21011498
I think it's time for your meds.

why is noon jst till like 5-6pm jst like this

>>21011853
Trash Taste is affiliated with Kadokawa btw, in case you want to seethe more

>>21012778
Dreambros . . . We fell off.

so /#/ has reclined to the point of talking about the numbers of minecraft streamers

>>21012754
is fucking stupid anyway

>>21011928
>Also, are there any NijiEN guys that Trash Taste can interview?
Are there any NijiEN who's living in Japan?

>>21012870
fujo discord raid pls anderstand

>>21012870
That's what you get when the current streams have dogshit numbers.

>>21012870
they're literally doing it only because someone keeps taking nijihomo fanfiction writer seriously

>>21012808
Fuck off Mika

>>21012908
Yugo

Kronii and mori reading the entire series? This is a long ass volume. Why kodokawa want to push this manga? Did it get an anime or something?

>>21012870
Still numbers

>>20755813
kind of disappointed a thread with that image was so shit.

>>21013024
Entire series??!! That's a lot of sponsorship money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmVGKfz0MEs
Chloe's new orisong. For real this time. It's good.

Bae's 500k celebration is going to be a Hololive songs only karaoke.
Of course, Kronii and Moona's minecraft collab will be overlapping it because this is council.

Bae going to sing hololive songs for tomorrows 500K celebration ohhh

>>21013195
NA time or JP time?

>>21013157
The song is not available yet.

>>21013159
One of these two streams is going to underperform expectations because of overlap and god forbid both of them end up getting disappointing numbers because these girls can't stagger their streams.

how much reine pay susan to not cut ID's subs?

>>21013255
Already available for member

>>21013159
It's okay. Karaoke and gaming streams have a different audience with a smol overlap.

>>21013219
9pm PST/ 12 am EST/ 1pm JST (saturday)

>>21013257
Hey at least they streaming regular now, EN 3 and 4 gonna be hell like JP right now.

>>21013024
Not the whole series, pretty sure it's just vol 1, which they're about to finish. They're running a promo on it, which is probably why they chose this series in particular. The idea is just to get users associating their storefronts with buying manga, rather than competitors

>>21013273
They get paid with the privilege of enjoying their kneecaps after today

>>21013219

>>21013285
She already earns plenty. I'll just wait for the premier.

>>21013356
None of those times make sense. Use regular American time for fucks sake.

>>21013157
I WANT THE FULL VERSION OF HER LAST ORISONG THAT WAS ACTUALLY VERY GOOD BUT TOO FUCKING SHORT !!!!!

>>21013416
>PDT

jwu, how the hell subaru still get high number after the dox? is this the first instance for vtuber that her number remain the same after the dox? i know chama took a dive on her viewership after the reflection yab ( i know her number already went to shit but still ), i don't know about ollie number before and after the yab too

>>21013442
Everyone in America uses Eastern time as a reference.

>>21013442
>21
That isn't american time you fuck. Only 3rd world shit holes use a 24 hour clock.

>>21013452
The dox is literally a nothing burger. Pretty much all of the Hololive members have been "doxxed" anyway.

>>21013452
>is this the first instance for vtuber that her number remain the same after the dox?
No vtuber has ever suffered a drop from a dox, especially if they're cute.

>>21013350
Kodokawa rival is shueisha right? Do cover do anything with shonen jump titles before?

>>21012957
off yourself, holonigger

>>21013567
I mean sponsorship/shilling wise.

>>21013326
Yeah I mean, I still it's going to be 10k+ each, but the overlap means we're not going to get any really mindblowing numbers.

Also Luca and Elira's minecraft streams rn is essentially a 6 member NijiEN collab.

no cull?

>>21012870
The most surprising thing about Minecraft number is that it only hit 1 trillion view total across Youtube a few months ago. I thought they already hit it years ago with how popular Minecraft was
Another thing is that Pekora seem to be the only Holo mention receiving give for celebration of 1 trillion Minecraft view. I don't know how they decided who to give the gift to but that imply Pekora contribute a whole lot of view in that 1 trillion

>>21013452
that's not how it works anon

>>21013551
The Maimoto rrat is getting the rounds again.

>>21013346
EN 3 might actually fucking bury EN's numbers if they don't bring new views in. So far all Council did is presumably bring back some Myth viewers from their huge 2020 pool and also eat into current Myth viewership.

>>21013273
10 billion rupiah

>>21013789
this is fanfiction

>>21013157
she lost her first stream buff so who cares
she already "trained" people to expect 30 second shitty songs

>>21013789
That's not how it works man.....

So when will minecraft meta gonna come back?

>>21013452
At least try to get something right when you post.

>>21013854
she literally did just one
what the fuck is this post

>>21013789
In a thread full of retarded takes, this one might be one of the most retarded ones.

literally just fucking shotgunning lies and bullshit at this point

>>21013880
>>21013843
Okay, but Council really didn't seem to bring any new stuff. Kronii might be the closest to bringing new viewers in because she always has a disproportionally high viewership for her questionable entertainment skills, must be fatefags.

>>21013898
I am sorry, anon
I am coming from the future and it flopped, sadly

>>21013881
When Pekora starts her planned Minecraft event.

>>21013714
Kaela...

>>21013968
you are arguing with more fanfiction, this is your feelings anon

>>21013905
Which part? That EN3 overlap will be a bad thing? When Myth was riding solo you could at least expect consistent 8k streams from most of them but Kiara.

>>21013881
When enough people actually starts playing it again. Or when 1.19 hits some time in summer.

good thread so far!

Assuming StarsEN ends up going full fujo pander as well (job position for StarsEN operations director is looking for someone who is knowledgeable in content for women), wouldn't that mean that the separation of the branches would be a positive for them?

>>21014151
as we all know, all content for women is fujo pandering
good job anon

>>21014151
There is no point discussing Uproar or the potential HolostarsEN.

They are destined to be 3-view failures like their predecessors.
I don't understand why this thread wants to talk about them so much.

It's like having conversations about Nijisanji ID and KR.

Bae's Cyberpunk stream details exactly where other members started/finished their streams. A shame about the overlap but Bae was at least holding whoever was in the stream outside of people waiting for someone to start.

>>21013714
keqing too strong

>>21014300
because they for some reason they don't want them to be absolute failures but failures just enough to go hurr durr holobronies what happened
they don't understand that a lot of the fanbase wants that branch closed

>people are avoiding 22:00 JST
Are they really not gonna stream over an ID's debut?

>>21014466
Wait for HoloID to take care of that lol.

>>21014300
Hololive managed to get a good success from the "unsalvageable" market that is Indonesia so people have faith in them to make Stars a success. Don't get me wrong, it is a lot harder for Stars because the market is just different but they have a potential.

>>21014466
korone membership

The market has spoken
https://youtu.be/Zf20w-JEQDA

>>21014466
at the size the company is in, there's bound to be people that are gonna get pissy cause of you streaming over a debut of their shit branch, so why would you cause yourself unnecessary headaches

>>21014300
I've seen posts like these when people say HoloEN would become a failure between the first EN auditions and pre-september 2020. Ended up getting 50k+ watching debuts at 5am JST

>>21014411

If silver Keqing has that hideous SEA laugh I'm gonna fucking kill myself

>>21014564
>my oshi is still in the top 20
based

>>21014300
> "Myth won't be successful" timeloop again

>>21014564
At least post the latest one.
https://youtu.be/jokzZ6-KrWY

>>21014644
you don't watch hololive

>>21014524
Hololive ID did and does well for the same reasons that Hololive JP and EN do well.

Holostars don't share that, so they will never be successful.
Cover established and grew their company in a way that if you have XY chromosomes you can't succeed.

If there is any topic of discussion that is kinda interesting (not really but whatever) is why the fuck does Yagoo keep the Holostars still running and why is he even adding more failures to the branch with Uproar and potentially Holostars EN.

>>21014644
holostars isn't hololive

>>21014570
>>21014644

Read my response: >>21014749

>>21014701
I hate lolicon. Tomboy all the way!

Can't believe Lui is having yet another cover and Iroha still has none on her channel, what the fuck?

>>21014466
They are conserving their energy for the homo debuts.
They are going to go HARD during those timeslots.

>>21014912
Based holoJP burying the homos to make sure they never even approach numbers that would give them collab legitimacy

>>21012778
You make it sound like he's a flop
Gura went from 129k to sub 7k RUMAO

>>21014830
Some things you just can’t seem to wrap your head around. Take Gura for example. You got the biggest vtuber on the planet with likely over a hundred million in views on youtube of just strictly music clips, with singing compilations reaching the millions, and yet… This girl only has 1 original song and 1 cover on her channel. You would think she’d have like 2-3 originals and 5-8 covers by now at the very least.

It’s just really reminiscent to HoloX right now. You’d think Laplus would have covers out by now with her resounding success and seemingly never streaming, but she’s only got 2 covers and that’s it. Lui and Koyori got like 18 a piece

>>21014830
Iroha my wife plss release at least a solo cover song.

>>21014749
>why the fuck does Yagoo keep the Holostars still running and why is he even adding more failures
because despite what this thread thinks , they are still profitable for cover
and they are also Yagoos pet project

>>21014995
I actually wonder if there would be more begging if the homos had decent numbers, say 2-5K, or less.

>>21014749
I agree about the ID success being attributed to JP and EN but you misunderstand one thing.
There is still an untapped potential for male vtubers and honestlye the current Stars members are pretty good at what they're doing if you watch them. They only need the member that can catch a lot of eyeballs so the entire branch can incline
They're not going to be an earth shattering success like Hololive but they're still quite profitable from all the merch sales, sponsorship, and concert.

>>21014830
She's covering Owl but she's a Hawk...both are birbs anyway. Algorithm may treat her kindly this time but its YT

>>21014830
the samurai is just honestly a weird case in general, you see this (picrel) but then you get the ccv charts or the fact that she gets scs on par with peko
like none of her numbers make sense to me

>>21015183
>Yagoo's pet project
Are they his sex slaves?

ID2 overlaps

>>21015289
More like his drinking buddies
Have you seen the way he talks to them on stream and on twitter?

>>21014830
Iroha is painfully slow to adapting to trends.
>Started Vampire Survivor weeks after every holo started playing it
>Started Sekiro just yesterday after Pekora finished the game already and Fubuki is on like ep 6
She should leaped at Sekiro/Elden Ring perms the moment they were available because "lore", but instead she did like 6 zatsus in 2 weeks with some karaokes instead.

>>21015310
Suisei? More like Suibased.

>>21015219
Yes. Homo numbers have little to do with homobegging, it's literally EOPs that for some god forsaken reason are would only watch homos (in clips) if they collab with holos. It's not enough that Fubuki does it, Pekora should do it! Korone should do it! Gura should do it! They don't get enough clips of homos without holos to carry them. Hell some of the most popular recent homo clips are...Roberu and kagura mea.

>>21015422
miko overlaps alot too

New HoloID got cull. But not much, about 1k subs

>>21015273
She disappoints me a lot. Her content isn't great and doesn't stream much. Her sub growth is abysmal and so are her views. 7k-9k CCV average isn't terrible and her SCs are great despite not doing GFE shit but she is the biggest failure of the gen just by wasted potential, even more than Stinky. Lui hit her ceiling so I'm not at all disappointed, Laplus is great but she needs to stream more.

>>21015310
Back when Suisei wasn't strong enough to get 10k doing anything. Feels nostalgic.

>>21015034
I think staff just try using song cover to boost their channel numbers.

>>21015414
Have she finished FFX yet? I'm baffled other vtuebrs keep trying to dig it for numbers. When their only reference for numbers is Pekora's FFX felt like an exception rather that the general.

>>21015310
ID3 won't sniff 60k. A) hololive's popularity isn't what it was and B) ccv is a fake number at this point.

matsuri 6k apex, is this good ?

Thoughts on Finana having her own lewd account?
https://twitter.com/RyuguFinana

Why did management allow this?

>>21015034
Whether someone has covers or even originals mostly depends on them. Not on their success, or their musical talents, but how much of their own effort they want to expend and how good they are at managing a music project. Cover does have a way to take on that work but it seems like a shitshow, look how Council had Cover-supported songs at debut but they took half a year to come out.
People who mash out their own music taking on most of the work and organizational duties can churn out songs like Mori, Lui, or Moona.
There's a legit criticism of Cover's music production side here, but that's why it seems so lopsided, it's mostly because of certain talents tackling production on their own.

>>21015564
I don't think people play FFX for numbers. It's just one of the most popular FF game for japs. There's not that many playthrough of it to begin with because it's such a huge time commitment.
Iroha is still doing morning RFA streams despite the bad numbers.

>>21015492
>uproar only got a 500 sub cull yesterday
>id3 only got a 1000 sub cull today
I wonder if the mcn thing hololive did made it so that new talents don't get culled as hard as others

>>21015711
AZKi comes out with bangers all the damn time so someone is doing something right.

>>21015687
Yes, it's than what she got with hoshikawa no?

>>21015713
I think Deron started a FFX playthrough recently if that counts.

>>21015723
maybe? I mean if an account is already subscribed to other channels under that MCN, it only makes sense to ignore it during a cull.

what the fuck zeta

>>21015842
Shes aiming for the Facebook Gold

>>21015713
Yeah the thing a lot of people here don't want to realize is that all the girls, even the lowest shitters are making more than enough to live off of and Iroha would rather do healthy streams like RFA or streams she enjoys like zatsu streams than flavor of the month shit to maximize numberfaggotry. Not everyone is gonna be the next Pekora, nor do they want to be.

>>21015760
Yeah, I wish Cover as a whole had music production the way Azki does.

>>21015436
which is depressing because several of the homos said themselves that they don't want to rely on holos and rather would try to grow with their own skills

>>21015842
Facebook. So she's aiming indonesian and SEA viewers.

>>21015842
Someone's probably impersonating as her, which tbf, is kind of expected especially for e-celebs such as them

>>21014912
>>21014995
What's with last samurai and assuming thier favourite chuubas share their thoughts about their colleagues? I see them push the same thing about en and Id too where they keep pushing that they hate them and would be happy to see the branch canned.

>>21015436
>>21015968
So it just adds to the "clipwatchers are cancer" narrative basically?

>>21015694
Well, it might make the vtuber artists who only draw porn happier to get a nod from the person they're drawing, but I don't see any of the other NijiEN girls following her lead so this probably won't make a big splash (pun intended).

>>21015842
>No Twitch
interesting

>>21016130
Not a Valo player, the blue girl is though expect one

>>21016081
Because it's shitposting and you should stop visiting /jp/

>>21015694

Female Niji are becoming irrelevamt so they push the lewd fish out to test this. If porn can somehow make her relevant again I bet others will jump on this bandwagon

>>21016080
The trio also tweeted a bunch in Indonesian, especially with each other, I guess Cover really wants to fill in the gap that is left when NijiID got absorbed huh.

>>21016205
I mean, it's an open market and if they, say, get some kind of deal with the Indonesian tourism board that could be huge for them.

>>21015842

Finally someone with a brain. Facebook and Tiktok is literally the fastest way to become famous in SEA

>>21016260
They just need to play mobile legends and pubg and they basically got the SEA audience hooked.

>>21015968
I don't watch the homos much but I can appreciate and respect them. They at least understand that viewers gained by leeching are mostly going to stick with the person they leeched off rather than pick them. They want to grow a proper audience that will stick with them.

Hmm there's a chink shilling genshin in global again.
I wonder how much of our recent decrease in quality is due to chink agitprop

>>21016290
Sounds cancerous, but if they're serious about growing big I actually agree, those games WOULD attract an audience. I'm just not sure they'll be able to temper the audience enough so that their cancer doesn't spill over to other Hololive members.

>>21015603
Wanna bet on it anon?

>>21014767
> "Yumenographia isn't Nijisanji" energy

>>21016290
isn't there like a low poly pubg ripoff or something that's like the most played game worldwide but it's never on the news over in the west

>>21016290

True. but I'm afraid if ID3 did that they'll attract a lots of retard middle-schoolers and turn their chat into a fucking mess in the long run.

>>21015842
>fb moonahoshinovaholoID
>instagram moonahoshinova
>tiktok @itsmoona__

>>21016371
Garena freefire.

>>21016368
took you 40 minutes to respond with the dumbest shit imaginable, good job anon

>>21016386
that's the one, wondering if they play that shit in indogland

>>21016371

Free fire. A shirtless indog or filippino streamer could easily mog HoloJP when playing that

>>21015603
That's alot of grudge posts

>>21016368
Pretty much, I swear the diffence between last samurai and nijiniggers is just semantics at this point

>>21016407
Anon, FreeFire made like a billion burgerdollars in SEA, CN, and IN market.

>>21015687
For this timeslot? Yeah it is.

>>21016436
It's almost as if they're the same person.

>>21016290
>>21016375
You might be joking anon, but Mobile legends have been trying to tap on the anime/vtuber market lately . I won't be surprised if HoloID gets paid to play them soon.
https://youtu.be/F7qGVzCqfq4

https://twitter.com/Vamp_Kuzu/status/1507155122916585477?t=gKdszXifQp75xpDVtUviwg&s=19

Thanks KING for your words of wisdom.

>>21016508
nah, chink still mad at holo. just look at FBK chat and comment section.
Wild Rift on the other hand...

>>21016561
another one to add in the screenshot collection.

>>21016098
hell there is this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE37oH5rlQo
(that has some full on ESL subs desu) where Roberu talks about the collabs being up to the talents and not some company policies and that they(the fans) shouldn't bother the girls with it

>>21016508

They're doing it for a long time alongside with freefire with all of those anime collab. The point is if the ID3 really playing those games and incline because of that, then they should just isolate themselves from other branch at that point. Those shitty games only bring in poor and toxic middle-schoolers faggot, and will pollute any fanbase it touch

What is your prediction for Zeta Subs and live viewers after debute?

>>21016561

https://youtu.be/-RArAxB7ncQ
Emperor Forte's waiting room

>>21016635
Reine tier
Holobox number on her anniversary, b'day, and holojps collab

>>21011750
HoloFes 3 sold out for sure, I know because I literally couldn't get one for love or money. If they sold less tickets it's probably because of limited attendence numbers from Covid restrictions, which hadn't come into place by HoloFes 1 IIRC.

>>21016368
And they are right. Yumenographia isn't Nijisanji, Yumenographia is part of Anycolor. Holostars aren't members of Hololive and vice-versa, the only difference between this and yumenographia is that cover made hololive production a thing, unifying both agencies in one bigger brand even if management wise they still are separated.

>>21016635

If she has a cute voice and minus the SEA hyena laugh then 3-4k is possible.

>>21016740
faggot, Cover literally brought stars and INNK under Hololive label last year.

>>21016867
>under Hololive
Hololive Production

>>21016867
no they didn't retard

>>21016635
Better than ridoculous

>>21016973
Yes they did

>>21017018
no they didn't

>>21016973
>>21017018
>>21017084
great argument faggots

>>21017151
no it's not

>>21017084
Yes they did retard

>>21017174

https://youtu.be/ohDB5gbtaEQ
>this thread right

>>21017213
>this thread right now*
I should go to bed

>>21017259
No you dont

>>21014151
yeah, they will get the fujo unicorns.

The retard can't differentiate hololive and holopro.

>>21017371
yes they can.

https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1507220922968981504
https://twitter.com/cover_corp/status/1507220925628166144

Cover is looking for new people

>>21017371
Yes we can

>>21017404
this looks like both for their tech/projects and the vtuber side

>>21017482
OH NO NO NO VSHOJOBROS? BETTER START UP ANOTHER SUBATHON.

>>21017482
i still can't fucking recognize who's on isegye and i can't find a list

>>21014466
Rushia got cut and it's IDs so Iofi and Risu can't do it.

>>21017615
That, and unlike last time where it was really only Moona who had the attention of the main branch, all of ID has the spotlight on them. Overlapping now would just bring them a much bigger headache than just...not streaming over it.

>>21015289
his wive's

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/03/keanu-reeves-movies-pulled-chinese-streaming-platforms-1234711003/
Uh oh the chinkies have their feelings hurt again

YouTube just fucked up again

>>21017482

>>21017758

This has been going for like 4 months already, right ? But the guy is Keanu Reeves, so he literally immune to chinks

>>21015842
don't all the ID1s have facebook?

didn't really follow ID2 at their start,

>>21017805
What is it this time?

>>21017813
based grudgeposter

Why is Mythia Batford spamming Apex streams? Her last 5 streams were all Apex.

>>21016202
But almost every single Nijisanji EN girl is inclining.

>>21017856
Live streams and videos dropped all connectivity for abit, it seems mostly fixed now but for a moment there evry single stream went offline

>>21017856
NTA but Matulis stream died for me so maybe another wave of server troubles?

>>21017856
All streams just experienced a big drop. They seem to be recovering, though, so probably just one of the relay servers got fucked up

>>20800369
what's this from?

oh it was real, how weird, it looks like a hiccup more than anything

>>21017884
trying to ride vsaikyou hype maybe? or being hyped for the game cause of vsaikyou.

>>21018026
Just what the hell is YouTube doing on their back end that shit has gone sideways these past few days? (Right after Fes too)

>>21018070
pajeet code

>>21018219
Well yes, but usually it's because they're trying to solve some issue. What are they trying to 'fix' now? With CCVID that was aimed primarily at cryptobots from what I could tell, but this....this is just crashing everyone that livestreams on YouTube.

>>21018070
Small indie company please understand

>>21018430
It could just be a server died, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar

>>21017482
Kek. Vshocuck reclining hard after IM subathon making it blatantly obvious they are all money grubbing whores

>>21017482
After all that leeching and react video. This is the true power of vwhore no.1 chuuba.

>>21015694
Matsuri has a 2nd account for her venting or liking porn. Some holos don't give a fuck when it comes to liking porn like Choco or Okayu, so I'm not sure why the fish even bothered making a secondary. Does she like really fuck up shit or something?

>>21018719
>>21018691
>>21018161
BTW, if you wanna see the dude that really hates yagoo in the wild

>>21018842
You know, i would rather prefer to be left clueless about what he is up to when he isn't being very interested in Yagoo's asshole in this thread.

>>21019010
>>21019010
>>21019010
Migrate when ready

>>21018960
I don't think he's the same guy, the seething 2view mostly talks about rimjob and "the big bad holobronies who refuse to share their views outside hololive" whereas this guy mostly just goes on about faggots and metoo

>>21017482
time for another subathon!
$11 millions well spent, good job you stupid VC

If you guys want some funny news regarding twitch and whores. Based on her content, it is clear that Amouranth is basically reclining hard even if she tries to cover it with restreams. She have been resorting on variety content lately and collabs in order to stay relevant.
If pekora still have the juice to do it,, she might have a better shot this year.

>>21019051

>>21019106
Any reason why?

>>21019051
no fuck off, stop doing this

>>21019113
>>21019155
Six threads out is a good time unless you enjoy tribalfags ops or number charts again

>>21019137
Pool meta is at the end of a day a meta. And the peak of that meta died a long time ago. She has been trying to jump on the subathon sleep meta but it's not the same as her peak.

Migrate >>21019188

>>21019231
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>21019231
oh for fuck's sakes

Goblin slayer chapter 69

>>21019195
No it's not just fucking wait, if some retard makes a bait OP then ignore it and make another it's not hard
>>21019231
Fucking kys retard holy shit

>>21019253
so did they get rape by goblin like the rest of bitches in manga or not ?

>>21019207
Was that her only appeal? It surely can't be that hard to coombait.

>>21019297
God I hope so

>>21019253
You sly dog kurosei.

>>21019305
new and fresh coombaits are dime a dozen right now, some old face like Amouranth isn't that tantalizing anymore.

Fuck it I may as well make a thread too then, fuck earlyniggers

>>21019305
That was her only appeal, she was just lucky enough to be the most popular one during the peak of the pool meta which was a really strong meta.
Recline might be an exaggeration, but for sure she won't be as strong as she was last year. She have been doing collabs and playing a bunch of games lately to have variety, but it's clear it doesn't have as good of a gas or as easy content as the pool meta.

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1507266031437463558?