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2099100 No.2099100 [Reply] [Original]

Why do translators have to edit out clips to upload separately on their own channels with clickbaitthumbnails instead of adding captions to the actual streams?
Seems like their just siphoning content and pulling people away from the source...

>> No.2099138

>why does someone providing a service want some benefit
Fucking mystery.

>> No.2099216

>>2099100
vtubers need clippers as much as clippers need vtubers

>> No.2099264 [DELETED] 

>>2099100
Because youtube removed thecommunity submitted captions feature
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6052538?hl=en

>> No.2099275

>>2099100
Because youtube removed the community submitted captions feature
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6052538?hl=en

>> No.2099287

>>2099100
you're assuming someone that watches clips would watch hours of stream to find that one moment

>> No.2099726

>>2099100
profit

>> No.2099738
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>>2099100
Because I can't upload captions to the original video anymore. I can't translate hinata or tomari's shit anymore
t. clipfag

>> No.2100357

>>2099100
>instead of adding captions to the actual streams
Youtube axed community subs a while back

>> No.2100537

If Holomembers actually wanted that revenue for themselves they'd run a clip channel where they paid someone to edit and translate for them. It's not siphoning viewers because a stalwart clipnigger would never watch streams in the first place, no potential viewers lost, someone who'd be interested in watching a stream has to go to the source, that's a potential viewer turned into an actual viewer. If Cover thought it was damaging they'd start issuing copyright strikes, they're well within their rights to

>> No.2100580

>>2099100
any indie vtuber would kill to get someone clipping them regularly

>> No.2100733

>>2100580
any of them would assasin a couple of their simps in order to get that benefit

>> No.2101070

>>2100537
Regardless of how you look at it, it's damaging. Ripping somebody elses material and monetizing it is scummy, regardless if those viewers end up tuning into the main channel or not. The "big" clip channels could be x3 striked within matter of hours for how much shit they've stolen and made money off. Cover will pull their finger out this year, I'm willing to bet.

>> No.2101255

Reminds me of that one Kanata translator that did her whole 3D, then got asked to take it down by cover and just give timing and subtitles to put on the main channel.

Instead he just split the 3D into parts.

>> No.2101308

>>2100537
t. clipfag

>> No.2101415

>>2099100
Why don't Cover and the Holowhores pay the interpreters to put it on their official channels?

>> No.2101513

>>2100733
>>2100580
Yes but what do I, clipfag, get oot of it? are they going to offer me friendship? pay me? I clipfag my oshi because she makes me happy and i want to help her numbers grow, but why should i clipfag some random indie?

>> No.2101551

>>2101070
Like I said, if Cover really thought it was damaging they'd have already done something. Instead clip channels get shoutouts and thank yous from the girls and smaller channels beg for clippers. The only damage they could do is if the big channels started clipping competitor's content and sending the audience elsewhere, I'm willing to bet the big clipper channels have some sort of agreement with Cover not to clip non-Hololive content because a lot of them used to do Niji and even indie clips, though it could also be because Hololive clips get the views so clippers don't bother with anyone else any more
>>2101255
Yeah fully translating streams and uploading it to your own channel is pretty scummy and Cover doesn't like it
>>2101308
Sort of, I watch a lot of streams but I still watch clips to keep up with stuff that happens outside of what I watch, even if you dedicate yourself full time to watching Hololive there's a ton of streams you'll miss due to overlapping schedules and I have other responsibilities so at best I'll catch 1-2 streams a day. That's irrelevant to what I'm saying though, you can dislike clipfags for only ever engaging with a flanderised version of a vtuber but clipfags =/= clips

>> No.2101591

>>2099100
They used to do that, but then Youtube had an aneurysm and decided that removing the ability to do that was a great idea.
And since uploading the full stream subtitled would obviously be problematic, that was the end of it.

>> No.2108065

>>2101513
I never suggested you should, I was merely pointing out how important clippers actually are

>> No.2108266

>>2101415
>Why don't Cover and the Holowhores pay the interpreters to put it on their official channels?

they don't have to pay them and having the source put out their own clips is kinda lame

>> No.2108835

There are so few fans who are dedicated and genuine enough to contribute anything to the community. I do FR/EN for a small group but that's all I can do and it's not very in demand. If more people stepped up we'd have a lot more girls in the 1-2m range

>> No.2108857

>>2108266
"best of" videos aren't that bad, I think we're going to see it once cover crunches the numbers of how many people watch those sub minute meme videos the girls have put out lately vs how many watch an entire stream start to finish

>> No.2109111

>>2099100
Let's say youtube didn't remove that feature
What's easier, translating a short clip of a couple of minutes or the entire 8-10h stream?
Even if someone was crazy enough to do that, then they would need another person to check the translation for the 8-10h stream someone submitted to avoid troll translations. It would take days if not weeks to include the subs
And then once the subs are on the VOD, do you really expect an EOP to go back and check some old ass 8-10h long VOD?
Fan made clips are better for the vtubers in order to get new live viewers for their streams and donate superchats.

>> No.2109320

>>2109111
>Fan made clips are better for the vtubers in order to get new live viewers for their streams and donate superchats.

also a quick way to get across their character and personality

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>>2101255
>Instead he just split the 3D into parts.

>> No.2117429

>>2099138
more like, crapitalism, am I right comrades?

>> No.2118719

>>2099275
>>2099738
>youtube said nobody used it
>but every EOP that watches vtubers since kizuna ai used it
What did they mean by this?

>> No.2118778

>>2108266
No? That's literally what smart streamers do, though they are more like highlights since it's often 10 minutes or more.

>> No.2118852

>>2118719
Susan is trying to kill vtubers.

>> No.2119018

>>2099275
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9861599?hl=en

>> No.2119148

>>2118778
new people are not discovering vtubers by watching highlights from a vtubers page

>> No.2123204

>>2119148
Because Vtubers are retards who don't know how to properly title interesting youtube videos or they're ESL and have 0 English proficiency and have to rely on some translator who doesn't have an ounce of creativity in their body to come up with a title for them.

>> No.2127467

>>2101070
That's not how it works, retard.
For Hololive and other Japanese vtuber companies translators and clip channels are actually very useful tool to reach to audience outside of Japan and they are totally aware of it. There would probably be no Hololive EN if not clippers making people interested with Hololive in the first place.
Fact that there are people that willingly are doing this job for what from Cover corp's pov is absolutely free is a godsend. Yagoo is not a complete moron to shoot down people that are making money for him.

>> No.2127852

>>2101513
Ask for her used panties as a reward, at least you got something unique out of it.

>> No.2127906

>>2118719
YouTube hates nips.

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>>2099100
>translating one minute vs translating 1-10 hours of a stream.
>one hour of an anime girl fumbling her words so badly even a native can't understand her
>2 minutes of her telling a cute story about her toes

Come on dude.

>> No.2130996

>>2099100
do you complain about people translating and typesetting manga too?
of course its another argument if its an actual garbage translation, but a good translation is a lot of work.

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>>2127906

>> No.2136991

>>2099138
it really is

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>>2099100
They're creating context. Who the fuck cares about seeing every mundane detail of an 8 hour stream? All this useless information is piling up at an unsustainable rate; clippers are simply tackling the problem head on.

>> No.2139746

>>2099100
hololive members regularly talk about and thank them so what does that tell you

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