/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

here proof

do you think they live streamed it from Guras basement?

>its not prerecorded here are the holoEN tweets that prove it

It makes literally no difference whether it is prerecorded or not, why do you faggots even care?

>>20682710
They went to dreamworks to rent the mocap equipment anon and streamed from NASA so theres zero lag. They used ame’s time machine to do all that in a day

>>20683006
Or they just hired dancers like any sane cost effective company would do

one: who the fuck cares if it's prerecorded or not, vocaloid fans can't even pretend that their girls exist and have zero problem with that
two: non-jps HAD TO BE prerecorded due to logistics
three: even if they hired professional dancers for some of them it doesn't fucking matter, these girls aren't real, it's all an act
four: please, just fucking stop, i watched a good show and i want to have positive thoughts about it, not about niggers baiting and falseflagging over which virtual e-girl company is better.

>>20683258
Someone actually gets it for once. Holy shit I kneel.

>>20683258
The only sane post on this board right now.

>>20683258
> wants Positivity
> goes to /vt/
Try reddit you dumbass

>>20683258
>two: non-jps HAD TO BE prerecorded due to logistics
Guess how I know you've never heard of the word choreography before in your life
Guess how I know you have never interacted with anyone online ever in any VR setting before in your life
>b-but the p-ping
Doesnt translate at all whatsoever in the VR setting and motion cap. Literally get educated.

>>20683079
No

>>20685057
Watch kiara’s dance lessons and look at gura there
Now look at gura in the concert
No amount of choreography will fix that shitty equipment and lag

>>20685165
>he actually doesn't know what the word choreography means
holy mother of ESL learn fucking english you braindead third world shitworlder

>>20683079
>Cover
>spending money on their talents
L O L

>>20685137
Yes

>>20682315
meds

>>20683258
There are studios for these kind of events, with mocap suits and a good internet connections.
Of course Gura did not perform in her living room.

>>20683258
hagfriend you seem lost this isn't discord
take a side or shit on both tribes

>>20685211
Your point works against you because Its cheaper than renting an entire top level mocap rig and studio

>>20685210
Its recorded anon nothing wrong with that dosent take away from the talent its just limitations of technology and japan closing its boarders

>>20685210
Nigger, choreography has nothing to do with that. Just accept that Japan is retarded and their foreign talents had no possibility to actively dance if they weren't there. There's nothing wrong with prerecorded parts or lipsyncing because it's a common thing in virtual concerts. Kiara accidentally (?) confirmed that she wasn't there, these holoEN strange offpakos before the concert were related to them recording dances in rented studios. I'm not saying that it wasn't them, I'm just saying that they had no physical way to be in Japan and I strongly doubt that Cover rented at least three different studios in three different countries on two different continents. Only Mori could actively be there and her performance didn't stand out as much as Kiara's who's currently at home.

>>20684836
people like (You) are why this place will never be good.
>>20685057
you're completely missing the point and clearly have no idea about what the girls have been doing prior to the show.
>>20685231
i'm not implying that they were doing in-house vrchat 3Ds, I'm just telling you that the probability of Cover renting studios in at least four different countries for singular girls is rather low and the fact that some parts of the performance were premade is completely normal and absolutely fucking nobody would be surprised, except for retards.
>>20685279
i have zero reasons to use discord, I just want this board to stop treating one [1] performance like a proof of everything even though the other company did literally the same thing, even earlier.

>>20682363
OH MY GOD NO WAY

>>20683258
the dances were all them but prerecorded for sure
singing, who knows, but almost certainly prerecorded as well
some holos could pull off an almost flawless live performance but most of them would be a disaster
it's fine

>>20686746
They pant after songs but not during them. I think the dances were live, at least with JPs.

>>20686844
maybe
I doubt we'll ever truly know
maybe some autist will work it out

>>20682315
Why they despawned the holos after an act just to spawn them back again 3 seconds later to mc?

>>20683079
>>20685211
>pay to see your oshi perform
>it's some rando wearing your oshis skin

nijicucks never fail to amaze me

This thread

>>20687063
nigger go read a book

>>20682363
FAQ

>>20687098
It's not your oshi, it's an anime girl. You'll never know who's behind her in staged shows like this.

>>20687063
Maybe they can't load additional holos without resetting the entire thing?

>>20683258
>i want to have positive thoughts about it
Then watch a MMD video on Iwara, It's basically the same shit and it's free at least faggot.

>>20683258
>i watched a good show and i want to have positive thoughts about it
Why the fuck are you on /vt/ then

>>20687232
Even when 3 girls just finished the act the same 3 respawned to mc for no reason other than to put the actual live ones to mc.

>>20682315
imagine giving a fuck whether it's prerecorded or not

>>20685945
>these holoEN strange offpakos before the concert were related to them recording dances in rented studios
Sister, you do realize that offline thing was mostly council that did not participate in FES, and organized between Mumei and Fauna, even Ame and Ina basically invited themselves in

>>20687355
holy cope

>>20686533
>I'm just telling you that the probability of Cover renting studios in at least four different countries for singular girls is rather low
That is exactly what Cover did though. It was live.

>>20687607
Can you prove?

There were several instances of the girls messing up the dance, some of which were glaringly obvious. Prerecordedfags have no legs to stand on, their only legit argument is if the EN/ID girls were live or not.

>>20687690
Can you prove it wasn't? Fucking nijinig chink.

>>20683006
I mean, there wasn't any lag when they live-streamed into conventions, so the dancing was probably also live-streamed.

>>20685945
>it has nothing to do with that
>relentlessly spam the board with "HIRED ACTORS" since holofes started
retard

>>20688146
You're the one making the claim, buddy. You sounded so sure and confident.
Surely you can back it up.

>>20688218
Not me, nigger.

>>20687607
Yes that was what Cover did. No they didn't do it live. Please don't be this retarded anon.

left: real streamers that arent idols and dont have to practice dancing since it isnt part of their job
right: hired actors

>>20687266
>It's basically the same shit and it's free at least faggot.
>implied the problem is money
>in a vtuber world where super chat is a thing
Are you retard?

>>20688400
Shut it down!

>>20688400
I'm so shocked nijinipplers are accusing hololive of something they are doing.

>>20687266
>Then watch a MMD video on Iwara
It is like saying
>here is your batman movie
>but I like the one with bob as batman not this faggot
Notice the difference retard?

>>20688400
>holo is hired actor because I said so
>no, niji is the real deal because I said so
Clown fanbase

>>20683258
>vocaloid fans can't even pretend that their girls exist
Speak for yourself.

>>20687266
how is it that people who say "it's basically the same shit" are always wrong?

>>20688509
When has this not been the case?
>shit up the board for MONTHS saying some janitor in cover is blocking collabs with nijien
>turns out its the livers themselves blocking the collabs since they're retarded tribalniggers

>"holoen will never get 3d"
>nijien steals holoens chibi 3d models that were released as part of april fools and they do it in vrchat exactly like holoen

>accuse nene of "stealing" art when the art was done by the artist itself drawing in the same room as nene
>turns out nijisanji has an entire lineup of stolen merchandise https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1505348404271992832?s=21

Never trust a chink

>>20687098
>imagine paying for this trash

>>20687232
LMAO cope but no we are not even debating about jp it makes perfect sense for them to be there. Im talking about en

>>20688206
It was pre recorded

>>20688206
>he doesnt know how motion cap works, or how VR works
VRchat is free, go into the japanese servers and tell me if you see any japanese lagging for you.
I'm going to assume you are a retarded amerimutt and not a seanig here, if you are indeed a seanig which wouldn't surprise me, go into a german server or some shit

>>20683079
If they were hiring dancers, why would they hire choreographers and have them work with the girls? Those sessions aren't cheap!

>>20688947
>>accuse nene of "stealing" art when the art was done by the artist itself drawing in the same room as nene
>>turns out nijisanji has an entire lineup of stolen merchandise
The hilarious part was nene's yab solved peacefully while nijisanji's yab cost them lot of money.
It's still baffled me, did they not check the end products before mass producing and advertising them?

>>20685210

>>20688400
I will never not laugh at that rushia pirouette

>>20689316
All lies!
Remember when luna said that she wait for subaru to finish her dance lesson? Lie.
Remember when nene showed her boobs to polka after dance lesson? Lie.
Remember when aki teach holohags to dance? Lie.

>>20689316
Who said they hired actual choreographers lol
I bet you think undertaker is actually an immortal zombie

>>20689338
>It's still baffled me, did they not check the end products before mass producing and advertising them?
Anon, nijisanji is chinese. Like what the fuck do you think the chinese do? Everything they sell is stolen shit

>>20689116
>>20689220
Seriously, why do you guys really care so much about Hololive Festival and feel the need to say all of that thing? Jealousy?

>>20689453
Nobody is arguing about jp being actually there numbnuts. We are talking en because there is no possible way to do it with current tech

starting to believe holocondoms are actually mad at the same lies they spread about niji months before holofes3 instead of pretending
yeah, everything is prerecorded and with hired dancers now lap that shit up

>>20688421
>>20688630
>>20688910
all you fags coping can be replied to at once
You didn't get to watch your oshi perform, You got swindled, now your trying to justify a glorified MMD cause your mentally challenged, deal with it.

>>20689499
>brony runs out of logic and comebacks
>resorts to copium with selen posting
Like pottery

>>20689560
>there is no possible way to do it with current tech
Are you amish?

>>20689680
You mean to tell me gura went from kiaras dance lessons vr chat vshojo tier 3d to the holofes concert in one day with the same tech? Ok what ever you say brony

>>20689651
>You didn't get to watch your ship perform, You got swindled, now you're trying to justify a glorified MMD cause you are mentally challenged, deal with it.
Aren't you the one who brings it up first?

But seriously tho, why do you guys care so much about the Hololive Festival lmao? Care to tell us? Is it because jelousy alone

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>20689831
>he thinks holofes is done through vrchat
quite possibly one of the dumbest posts ever made on /vt/ and that is saying a lot considering the state of this nijicope thread

>>20689831
actual retard

Dont you ever question why holo en wasnt in the opening and closing songs and everyone else that mattered was? Keep pretending and coping holokeks

>>20682315
I'm more mad about the lypsync and them not actually singing, Gura didn't sing at all

>>20690047
They didnt even pre record another version they just copy pasted the one on her fucking youtube note for note

>>20683258
>i watched a good show and i want to have positive thoughts about it
You don't belong here.

>>20690146
Gura's reflect at holofes? You're tone deaf. She at the very least re-recorded it. It has breathing and note differences throughout.

>>20689651
>you didn't get to watch your oshi perform
that's true, because i don't have an oshi and never will. and i don't care whether it was premade or not. i high-key expect that to be premade, so if it isn't that only proves how good they are.
>>20690234
possibly. i got in during the /jp/ era, had some nice conversations, learned some useful things, forwarded some important info, found some interesting vtubers, saved many beautiful images and i guess my time is coming to an end. i'm on neither side and that's why both will want me dead.

>>20690436
almost as if it was done live or something
https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1505250329486839810

>paying 100 dollars to rent a prerecorded concert
A fool and his money are soon parted

>>20690436
Im listening to it right now both versions are exactly the same lol
Either buy a ticket or call marine and listen to it yourself threadreader

>>20689662

he ran out of medication.

>>20690468
/jp/ ??? I doubt it, Bro you sound like you’re from reddit

>>20689662
Jealousy indeed, thanks for replying

>>20690598
you're mentally ill if you think any of the performances were live.

>>20690436
lmao, just accept that she didn't even sing it live

>>20690882
Close your eyes and inhale that copium boy. Looks like you lost again

>>20690641
>100 dollars
>knowing super chat is exist and they throw this money like a fucking garbage
Just said you are poor anon

>>20690641
>paying 100 dollars
>implying
i shiggy diggy

>>20690987
Jealousy indeed

>>20690693
Kill yourself nigger.
https://youtu.be/WGgEFoI9MhE?t=55
>なくのよ
1:52:35 is the timestamp for this exact line in the holofes recording, and she sings it fucking differently. It was re-recorded idc if you're baiting me fucking kill yourself.

>>20690816
not using "nigger" or "tranny" every two words is not a sign of coming from reddit yet, anon. i just grew up.

>>20691433
don't mind the 13 year old indonesian, he just learned some big mean words and he's been using them furiously