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Yesterday's superchats
Day 2 schedule
>>20627941
>ID2 advising ID3 to take it easy, relax and there's no obligation to stream too much at the startSame with Myth advice to Council, another anti numbers advice
>>20628324ID3 DOA, its over
>>20627863Pretty sure that Marine, Subaru, Towa and Noel didn't have streams. These numbers are just from freechat waiting rooms right?
THE RIGHT THREADNEXT THREAD>>20627856 >>20627856 >>20627856
Are rushia and coco's outfits not there? Awh man... It would look sick like a hall of fameAt the end of times when all is done and gone, yagoo would walk through that hall reminiscing on the good, bad and ugly memories before locking and shutting everything down for the last time
>>20628496>coco's outfits not thereIt's not? That's a shame.
Ah, peace
>>20628650anon she sung rip later on, it just wasn't in the slide for some reason
Ah, chaos
>>20628948Putting it on a slide is a bad idea. If any of the IP holders feel petty, they can strike the videos. It's better to name drop instead.
there were more eops in chat with a stream in indonesian with japanese subtitles than the current segment with holox
>>20628324That's the exact advice I would give to anyone who's coming to take a piece of my audience too.
>>20629069Indos were the real EOPs
>>20628440>>20629037why are you guys a bunch of faggots?
>>20629069We have already seen by Koyori, Lui and Laplus english only streams that they have little to no interest by Eops. Not to mention Chloe SCs that are 98% Yen
>>20629069Those EOPs aren't EOPs, they're Indonesians
Has any NijiID congratulated Moon for her impressive stage performance?
>>20627822> based indie vtuberwell damn, I'm surprised those exist.can I get a link anon?
>>20629069IDs actually stream in English most of the time
>>20629069not much reason for jops to comment on ID who they barely watch, IDs are also ESLs
>>20628698From what I remember, Sodafunk used Ollie to springboard his own vtubing career. Then he was exposed for just hiring a girl off Fiverr to be the VA.
>>20629258I think he's talking about Pippa.
>>20629126Based strategist.
>>20629225Publicly? I don't think so.
>>20629187the koyo english streams are particularly funny because like more than half of the replies in english are from regulars that usually write in japanese in chat
>>20629225The only Niji ID I know is Mika and she's not close with Moona so idk.
>>20629225What connections do NijiID even have with HoloID?
>>20629463Because both HoloID and NijiID seem to be buddies with each other.
>>20627863Did chloe recline that bad or is her elden ring stream SCs after this?
>>20629258probably pippaif she ever get big enough, i'm 100% certain the rest of the EN "indie" scene will roast her. was surprised shiki got that treatment first but turned out to be a misfire.
>>20629463uhh, same country?
>>20629225Only good luck from 1 liverhttps://twitter.com/Etna_Crimson/status/1504419287468949507
ID bento sold out in 27 minutes https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1505430687850979331
>>20629669Yeah i know your utter retard, but what else? Even Moona who is in every SEA indies panties barely has contact with any of them.
>>20628324HAHAHHA fucking council 2.0. even more midgets than ID already are
>>20629463reine and anya especially did quite a few of collabs with them but i don't remember much of moona interactions
>>20629736I'm more curious if any of her 'artist' sister congratulated her. She's closer to them than most outside company IDs, given that she doesn't even talk to people outside of ID1
>>20629463Hana wants to lick ollie pussy
>>20628440>>20629139This thread was made first. How about you stop being a fagoot, faggot.
/#/ is declining.
>>20629645Pippa would get cancelled the moment she becomes too big.
Oh yeah, no one posted it yet but here is the tweets status. Did it pass 1M counting Day 1?
>>20629225None. Don't know why they aren't congratulating them. Even Millie despite having a nice PL, didn't congratulate them publicly. Probably just messaged them, but still, even Calli and Ame replied.
>>20629641>elden ring>SCsanon.....
>>20630025I don't think Moona is close to any ID. Risu and Iofi along Ollie seems to be the most
>>20629225Her part was behind a pay wall so they have to buy a ticket first to see it and I don't think that is happening.
>>20629641Supreme retardchama...
>>20629935She is already causing seethe when she is being brought up to normalfags.
>>20629877Of coursehttps://twitter.com/IkuHoshifuri/status/1505120732548038658https://twitter.com/AmauMeiko/status/1505117958280196097https://twitter.com/UtenHiyori/status/1505118931400347652https://twitter.com/natooji/status/1505118498271338503
>>20629722S-sugoi
>>20630025There is no reason to interact with Hololive.They have learned that you'll get nothing and 99% of the time you'll just get ignored so they dropped it and don't even try any interaction anymore.
>>20630083So you've never watched her birthday streams then?
>>20630025I've never seen Moona interact with any other ID vtubers. Only time I remember was when she was Apexing with Ollie and was dragged along but she was pretty quiet during that stream. Moona isn't one to talk to stranger. She's basically ID Pekora.
>>20630134I recall the CEO of her company did a stream with that one manager from Tsunderia and he mentioned how much of a headache Pippa causes for him.
>>20630025Millie PL was a massive leech. nice my ass.
>>20630108Or you know, they could get a restream
>>20629225Personal rrat is either niji management does not allow it or niji livers are against congratulating a rival company. Even NijiEN hasn't said anything to Gura, Ame and Ina despite being second in the industry. Are they that spiteful?
>>20630083Anon, have you watch her birthday call stream last year ? She is very close to a lot of ID vtuber and she call into their birthday and appear in their chat sometime
>>20630025>Millie didn't congratulate them publiclyThat tribal nigger must be seething inside.
>>20628324God fucking dammit! People never learn.
>>20630259It's an all out war.
>>20626533well that's the beauty of Cover's way of running things.Just like the two unused designs they scrapped, if they aren't able to find good talent that can add to the group, they will simply wait 6-7 months and do a low-key announcement of "there weren't enough talents that matched our requirements" and let it die there.More likely though, I'm guessing a lot of non-streamer content creators will be getting priority, since any experience is good for Holo applications, not just streaming.
>>20630169The most comfy thing I've seen all day.
Thanks to Moona again, HoloID is back on the map. If Iofi and Risu's performances manage to wow viewers again, this might be the break that HoloID needs to incline again.This could mean that ID3 might get good debut numbers.
>>20630258Do they even care about the rest of Hololive to even watch the whole concert ? At best, I would said they saw one of the clips
WHOA WHAT?
What is this new "why is noone talking about Hololive among indies or other corpos" shit?Are you guys living in a different reality?Hololive is a walled garden.You'll get little to no interactions on Twitter.You'll get no potential collabs.Indies and other corpos learned that Hololive is its own thing, seperated from the rest of the vtuber world/industry, so they won't try to interact in any way.
holy fuck
holy fk cover
> Live2D 3.0wait I just started watching the stream, was this shown before?
>live2d updateoh about time.tough the holos rigging is already good at least between corpos
>>20630540NO THIS IS NEW
Full upper torso live 2D. A lot more motion and animation in the face.
does this mean they'll finally fix subaru's model
>>20630479>>20630488>>20630490>>20630523>>20630540>>20630550I went in as soon as I saw this, but missed it. What the fuck. Hopefully it's better than Niji's 3.0. niji ones has 5+ new expressions and smoother rig.
>>20630647They showed a couple of stuff like matsuri having mapped controllers and moving hands, seems like what >>20630578 said
>>20630647The face and emotion animations seem pretty similar to niji's 3.0 but I don't recall any of the upper body stuff that it looks like cover is going for.
>>20630481>every interaction must be to get a collabthat is such a closed minset to look at it.People can be an admirer of someone in public. unless holding hololive in a pedestal means you shit on indes or something but that would be such a awful way to view things.
>>20627844It's probably all the rrrrolling arrrs rrrreminding you of brrrrraaaps
>>20630209It's a rocky situation for the Fishman. The pink Rabbit was the reason their company was able to stay up during the harder start at the beginning, but as they're getting into a better position she's becoming a liability at best since she's still hot stuff with the schizos around here. The problem also goes to if she can pull a Nyanners without it becoming a Nyanner situation which is both hard and dangerous but will only get worse as time goes on. At least outside of the Rabbit, most who know of PC also know of people like Lia, Uruka and Tenma and just shove the pink thing back to the trash can where she belongs.
>>20630209Pippa has a special individual handler accord to that stream, where everyone else shares managers.
>>20630647screenshots don't really convey it, it's mostly in motion, but this might be pretty big
Sad FBK
I don't get why don't cover just put a full mannequin for display along with a head and a wig. Is a wig more pricy than a costume or does it not look good on a mannequin's head?
>>20630523Timestamp https://youtu.be/TtB0GZLum1w?t=20650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtB0GZLum1w&t=20639sFor the live2D 3.0
>>20630259Gura and Ina *never* respond to anything from non-Holos so why bother, and Ame very rarely does.
Anyone doing watchalong today? Preferably someone from Holostars would be nice.
>>20630746how often does a hololive member interacts with other vtubers?they must be fans of someone, right?but you never see them interact with anyone outside of hololiveit's the same thinghololive is not in the same plain as the other vtubersthey move alonevtubers, either indies or corpos, ENs or JPs or IDs, etc. know that so they just stick togetheryou'll see a lot of interactions of indies with NijiEN for instance, etc. just how things are
>>20630948Oga is doing it again.
>>20630407Risu might, no way in hell Iofi will.
>>20630899my heart skipped a bit when aki showed
>>20630890>>20630899all gen1 girls hmmm
>>20630885
I don't get it, is 3.0 update important?
>>20630948https://youtu.be/sYBIYiOFlm0
>>20630922>Ame very rarely doesShe seem to have learned her lesson after a certain leech stole a bunch of her people. The only people who interact with outside company in twitter is Kiara and Calli to an extent. The easiest way into Hololive is still Kiara but the ones that try are usually western whores trying to steal clout.
>>20630953roru
so no EN watchalong
>>20630987>>20631076Nice.
>>20631045I'm just hoping they also bothered to update all the alternative skins instead of just the default one. It's already pretty jarring when you watch them switch to some of the old outfit and the model just looked stiff as fuck.
>>20631033Probably going to roll them out in gen order as they get the models updated.
>>20630922But HoloJP collabs with Nijisanji members and other indies pretty often. And NijiEN collabs with other chuubas all the time too.It seems like it is specific to HoloEN.Is it Omega?Is it Management?Because Kira had vocally stated that she keeps being denied collabs, and I bet that means it’s happened to other HoloEN girls too.But why?
>>20630953not that much interaction honestly on both sides. But I see JPholos following Nijis and liking their tweets and events too. No idea on the niji side.
>>20631164I doubt they will. Matsuri paid herself to get all of her outfits updated
>>20631045Eh, it's an incremental upgrade, it's nice for the fans and it brings some new features for the chuubas to muck around with. It's not terribly important but if it has new features not seen elsewhere it might set a new industry standard.
>>20630888Wigs are pricy but i don't see why cover wouldn't be able to afford it.
>>20628434guessing they're getting two different audiences.Nijisanji folks are either NEET 5chfags and/or younger normalfags/teenagers.Holo is a more otaku-like crowd, but recently they've also started treading on the more mature normalfag crowd (with families), and in some cases even literal children's entertainment.It's kinda like asking whether Demon Slayer or Marvel is more popular. Both of them are, but with different audiences.
>>20631164That's unlikely I think but I guess it depends on how much work it is to update. Maybe if it's quick they'll get through everyone's base then go to alts.
>>20631033probably moving in order>>20630953that is a stupid way of thinking. And you see plenty of Jps interacting with other vtubers hell even Bae and Ids do.But indies for some reason are just too afraid of jsut saying they like hololive nowdays.
>>20631238For the better. Avoiding western drama is good. Calli learned her lesson hard.
>>20631238Ollie tried to collab with NijiEN and that also went to shit.
>>20629330>>20629645wait wasn't she the one who brought up the orange woman wrestling thing when asked about something unrelated?Is she actually based or just lacking a filter?
>>20631133>Kiara did a watchalong for the Day 1 girls>Ame, Ina, and Gura aren't doing watchalongs of Day 2Why do they hate Kiara so much?
>>20631238Because western vtubing is a minefield of shady characters. Some of the people they've been turned down for include Veibae, MoistCritikal, and Conner. You do the math on that one.
>>20631302And then there was Coco with the weird Salaryman before work demographic
>>20630953??? do you just watch EN holos or do you watch none and are just shitposting?
>>20631441
>matsuri watchalong>holox watchalong>id2 watchalong>oga watchalongUgh council? Hope? Do thry hate myth
>>20630259>>20630922This argument is a little retarded.They had no trouble randomly replying to their tweets when trying to leech off them. They're just not interesting in praising a rival.They still have that twitch mentality of "losing their viewers" to the bigger streamer.
>>20631045Is 2.0 update important? Check Fubuki's debut when she was 1.0. The industry is improving every year
>>20627728day 2 is open by the way
>>20631441>>20631530Fuck off samefag
>>20631302Hololive being family-friendly is the best decision Cover ever had. Like, being niche mature stuff is fine, but most family-friendly shits get the most money because kids will pester parents to buy them.
>>20631530I'l be watching oga.
>>20631339>>20631468even before the leaks how many instances can you recall that a holo interacted with someone from Niji EN for example?
>holoen hates each other >it's actually holoen fault there's no collabswhy now
>>20631441Gura is doing a membership watchalong I think.
>>20631538Huh? They really do have nothing to gain from it so why bother. In fact it just looks desperate trying to get the attention of someone who won't ever talk to you.
>>20631658>ENwell that answered my question
https://twitter.com/hololive_event/status/1505438997841002500Rushia really fuck the production huh
>>20631238>But why?I say it's both. The myth have different managers, Mori's being more lenient, other's like Jenma and Enma more Nazi. Also probably since Gura and Ame both have experience as 2views over at twitch so they know more than enough how cutthroat and backstabby it is, as well as since Gura is a lazy and disorganized fuck she would have to do more work because of collabs with outsiders. Ina seem to just don't care cause she just don't care. She collab with outside people before like Pikamee but in a whole she just don't care.Kiara is a mental case and narcissist that she allow any idiot who praise her to get near and thus needs constant management so she don't get butt raped, despite being a former idol. Maybe it's more naive than stupidity, like little kids who believe people who say they'll be your friend if you give them candy.
>>20631658kiara
>>20631716>why announce it? do people know the performance beforehand?
>>20630169man that's wholesome a fwith Flare could've joined the lack family collab
>>20631450Ehh Moist man got turn down in the first place cuz of his vulgar content, dude himself is pretty much yab free and well respected.
>>20631450nah it's not that, at least not just thatbefore the discord leaks there was no reason for some holoEN-nijiEN or holoID-nijiEN collabs since nijis are corpos just like holo, part of a major companybut that never happened, that tells you all you need to know
>>20631716was there any point to this, were there like setlists printed somewhere
>>20631697Not that anon and I don't give a fuck either way but Gura's rewatching day 1 with members to talk about stuff. Same as some of the JPs' streams right after the concert but the day after.
>>20631697really? I don't see it in the upcoming stream list
>>20631800Nah probably just to futureproof retards wailing that the green bitch isn't there. Granted they already said she will be absent, but hey it doesn't hurt to remind it.
>>20631800Probably because the format will be different from day 1 and they're getting it out there before people start rrats.
Who do you think will have the breakout moment of Day 2?
>>20631858Not publicly no
>>20631926hopefully Risu, but it'll probably be Kiara
>>20631716https://twitter.com/Jmxqjj/status/1505439960761257989Fandead is okay with it.
>>20631711when people ask stupid shit like>why don't indies and other corpos congratulate Moona>how come noone talking about HoloFes outside of holoswhat are they refering to, anon?JPs?we had this stupid question both in this thread and the one before
>>20631926Risu, but Alice&u is pretty mediocre song
>>20630481>>20630953leech mindset shows thoroughly heremovie stars and seiyuus get tons of congratulations from their peers and minor seiyuu/actors when doing a dream event.Only the EN chuuba scene has this "ok I blew you, now blow me back" mentality.
>>20631886>>20631868Ah, I see. Yeah. I checked her schedule. It's a VOD watch along.
>>20630020no but very close, its pretty much assured.
>>20630407I think the problem with Risu and Iofi is that they don’t take advantage of the opportunities they’re getting. For example, Moona dragged Risu to do an off-collab Karaoke in front of 9K people but she hasn’t taken that exposure and do Karaoke again to incline. Let’s hope they don’t fuck it up this time or else, Moona will just leave them behind again.
>>20631926My bet would be on Kiara, even if she gets put under commission for two weeks after this show with whatever she is going to pull.
>>20627863Leave it to Kiara to leave her superchats on and mooch off her coworkers. Literally every other of the 4 or 5 streams all had theirs turned off. Hell, Ollie made it a point to even say "I'm turning these off. We're here to support the other girls not me."
>>20632070do holos congratulate their peers?
>>20632210just look at their twitter feed
>>20631238For Gura, Ame, Ina, it's their personalities.
>>20632284I don't see anything
>>20632202
>>20632202Koyori had SC enabled, she just didn't get much
>>20632210Co-branches do (except Ayame); interbranch on the other hand, sometimes...
>>20629920Hey man
>>20630834>now we can see the stomach area all the timeSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXXXX
>>20632007the fag i asked was talking about hololive membersif he meant just the ENs then he should word his shit better
How's Bilibili doing after Day 1? Are there any leaked clips?
>>20630108This is the most likely reason. Most if not all of them are poor students
>>20631465kek, all the Gundam ojisans migrated to her after she left
>>20632507You've made me realize kronii will never use it lol
No pin?
>>20630885God, I fucking love that Fubuki sideboob.
>>20632599Probably when it starts if needed.
>>20632626when was the pin put up yesterday?
So is that whore Suisei really going to run a radio show at the same time as day2? Fuck me girl, your starting to deserve the beating I want to give you. I guess it's because Moona was a bigger star then you yesterday so now you have to take it out on the rest of your coworkers.
>day 2 no stickyIts over…
>>20632599later when the concert starts.
>>20632599There's around 40 minutes before the concert starts, just wait
>>20632644When it started.
>>20632474that's cause she usually doesn't get much during collabs, around half or less of what a normal solo stream gets her, just like a lot of JPsalso, p much all the freechats had sc enabled
>2668truly psychotic, meds please
>>20632003https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1505438994636546053Not so much on the western side.
>>20630481>>20630953The biggest tell of a leechfag is when they don't congratulate Moona, who replied to almost everyone that congratulated her.They just want the clout that EN provides, and ID is "not worth it" to these locusts.
Vta girl 1.7k waiting
>>20632806god i hate eops
>>20632811So basically, Hololive is the high-grade runway model during Paris, NY fashion weeksIndies and smaller corpos vtubers are just cheap IG models?
>>20629187HoloX has a huge EOP following. Chat explodes into english every time they pander.
>>20633023pretty muchbut since the industry is so new, and the holos are a lot closer to the audience than fashion models, the lower-end folks tend to think they're somehow peers to them.
The fuck? What happened to the top 50 songs of the week?
I have taken nap, took a lukewarm shower, and stocked my expressosI.AM.READY! What about (You) anon?
Number bro's Im in dear need of a stream link.I found three of those yesterday for day1 but I cant find anything today.
>>20632615uooh i never noticed that... jesas that makes me horny.
>>20633168dunning krugers
>>20632818is that good or bad
>>20631164Still waiting for Subaru's fix, that shit is probably the shittiest Live2D in Holo.
>>20633220energy drinks and snacks ready. skipped a chunk of the expo stream to get more sleep than yesterday so i am not as tired
>>20633106lmao, pay attention to the names of the people who respond when that happens and what they do before and afteralso their sc breakdowns tell a very different storythe only one who's even close to have some eop following is laplus, and it's merely cause of size/memes
>>20632806not real fans
>>20632806EOPs are subhuman.
>>20633318Bad, 2.2k waiting 30 mins left
>>20633345god, i can't stand subaru's mouth, it's so fucking bad
>>20633195Postponed to tomorrow at 16jst
>>20630481Why do nijifags seethe so much about this "walled garden" shit. Does the fact Cover cut you off from leeching really asspain you that much? Hololive being it's own self contained thing is not why Niji is losing to Vshojo in the west, it's because Niji missed every opportunity to grow in the market before it was too late and the entire market share got snapped up by Hololive.
>>20633434Wait a second. Does Anykara debut their new NijiJP at the same time as Holofes free portion?Are they crazy?
Vta chat all eops lol
>>20633384You're a retard. JOPs don't reply to "hey guys" in English.
>>20633599Yup. Free portion is almost an hour long as well, which covers up two debuts.
>>20632668Haven't seen you around in a while.
>>20633485are you retarded?I am stating how things are because they are morons (like you apparently) that started this whole "why does noone talk about holofes from western indies" and "did anyone congratulate Moona on her performance?"off yourself
>>20633599latechama...
>>20633485This is just EN weirdness though, Holos interact and collab with Niji and other small corpos/indies all the time in JP and ID
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WqUvSafufMA well known cosplayer is having her vtuber debut in a few hours, numbers ?
>>20633600luca send pople there
>>20633630you'd be surprised
>>20633195yeah bro now is the perfect time to release that
>>20633659>which covers up two debutsis it confirmed 30 min debut tho?
>>20633600LOL What? Really?
>>20633195ch gone i think
>>20633751Look at the schedule.
>>20633701Sorry anon too much numberrot going on right now due to holofes.
>>20633599>Are they crazy?AnnieCoolers is not known for their smart decision making. However, they might get some of the spill once the Free portion ends and the poorfags have no where to go, which I'm going to think that's what they're hoping for.Yeah, they're retards.
>>20633680"walled garden" is a nijifag shibboleth, it immediately outs you.
>>20633659Stupid Anykara... They could do it one hour later and catch tourists that don't have tickets for holofes
>>20633600most prechats are eops, jops don't chat beyond a check-in since they're waiting for the content to engage.
>>20633869Not nijisanji
>>20633694Nah its En self preservation, for some reason the western vtuber scene is filled with leech, backstabers and drama starter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n58SIWWFMygWHAT KIND OF RETARDED FUCKWIT PUTS A DEBUT OPPOSITE HOLOFES
fuck they didn't balance the ads again and it scared the shit out of me
>>20633951accelerate
What happens if the new Nijisanji girls debut in front of 20-30K people?>WIll Anycolor abandon them immediatelly?>Will heads fall inside the company after the recent consecutive failings paired with this apparent disaster of a new wave?>Will that finally signify the change in the industry in Japan with Hololive being the undisputed number 1 company? How will the fans react to a 20-30K debut when Hololive debuts people in front of 150K and has their biggest even ever met with huge success?
>>20634038アニメが大好き
>>20633951TAIZUMI SPECIAL A C C E L E R A T E
>>20633816acting like an aspie retard immediatelly outs you as a holonigger thoughso I guess we both have to live with that
>>20634101Selejo debuted to 20-30k people and nothing changed anon. This isn't new.
>>20634101this might get 50k-80k
>>20633599
So today, NijiEN had an off-collab, NijiJP will have debuts and a live concert.Man, Anykara is trying their hardest, it's almost embarrassing but it's admirable.
>>20634101It has happened before. Have you seen any changes since then?
>>20634101Lain got 69k I say 60k-80k
>>20633599It's been known since yesterday that Riku is a massive retard who debuted his new talents against a nuke.
>>20634269I don't think NijiEN off collab had anything to do with management lol
do you think there will be a big announcement at the end of the show
>>20633661Missed me?
>>20634225that was when they still debuted waves every other month thoughfrom edengumi onward they changed their strategy, in Japan at leastif a new wave months after edengumi debuts at 20-30K, oh boyI just feel bad for the girls, it would be better for them after finishing their cycle in VTA to look for opportunities at Hololive (I know it's hard to get in but still) or even VSPO (if they are good at games) or maybe even Neo Porteit sucks to see Anycolor's disaster of management to drag so many vtuber down with them
>>20634315This is VTA tho
>>20634399there definitely will be, it'd be a waste not to have one
>>20634269They should've heed charlie's advice
>>20634399yes, im gonna marry mio
>>20634234>>20634315>4.4K waiting 13 minutes before streamoh boy...
>>20634399Definitely, it's probably one of the main selling point for Day 2.
>>20634417Third girl I mean
>>20634487Anon, this is pretty standard.VTA is a known quantity
>>20634399YeahThey'll announce my marriage to Choco AND Mel
Huh, just noticed Zea from NijiID is also doing a donationthon now.
>>20634566no nijicultist, it's no standard to debut a new wave for NIJISANJI JP and have 5K people waiting for you a few minutes before the debutthis is a regular new wavethe next wave after edengumiare you faggots for real?
>>20634416Anon edengumi was from a time they had almost a year without anything. This here is coming off much earlier in comparison and with already known talents from VTA where many already saw or heard about how they were.>I just feel bad for the girls, it would be better for them after finishing their cycle in VTA to look for opportunities at Hololive (I know it's hard to get in but still) or even VSPO (if they are good at games) or maybe even Neo PorteThey still would need to audition on those unlike in Nijisanji where they already passed through that process. VSPO is impossible because none of the three are pro gamers.
>>20633951The hell is up with these retards spamming POG in her chat? wtf
>>20634704Luxiemtards
https://twitter.com/DECO27/status/1505439040044417025
>>20634704It's Luca's viewers, what'd you expect?
>>20634399Gura onahole
>>20634622What is a donationthon ? It's like a charity stream ?
>>20634704Blame Luca
>>20634704Luca is the art brother for yotsuha retard-kun
don't think this one is hitting 100k guys, very happy to be grudgeposted if wrong.
>>20634803like subathon, only sadder
>>20634693Selejo to Edengumi: 11 monthsEdengumi to this: 9 monthsso you mean these 2 months make all the difference huh
>>20634622She began yesterday, today is the second day
>>20634767Holy Shit, Deco27 too? I wonder will any of his song would be covered. That'll be amazing.
>>20634693>coming off much earlierAnon it's been 8 months since Eden-gumi which was an 11 month gap, it's really not that different
>>20634408Yeah. It was nice
>>20634877There was much more hype in comparison to now, yes.
>>20634965Watame's song is composed by him.
>>20634680You seriously expect too much out of nijifags, watch them start deflecting and shitting on Hololive.
hololive about to be utterly destroyed
bloom 2
>>20634838Not without Mr. Koro’s sexy ass flip that was what breached the 100k limit.
>>20632668>your>thenFucking SEAnigs man.
>>20635320come on anon stop putting curses on them, just tune into the concert and enjoy like a normal person
well there's now 9k waiting for the stream so it's about the 10k that happend with edengumi
Sending fujo audience to a female vtuber stream? Is her serious?
>>20635320By what?? Your event got cancelled, sponsorships cancelled, & merch cancelled.
>>20634838Korone made it happen. 96k start to 100k end.
>>20635380Me being ESL doesn't change that suisei should have her windpipe cracked so she sounds like an old man.
>11k waitingit's over holokeks
>>20635380>>20635446That's not even a good bait you retards
>>20635347Give me winter themed Holo concert
>>20634803Begging for money
will these girls even reach Noctyx levels?since Nijisanji is half-dead it seems I don't think Edengumi levels will be reached, let alone surpass them, so I hope for at least 50KIt's not great compared to Holox but at least they'll get a proper debutbut I am worried about them
It's starting
>>20635441he did well, anonnoone seems to be giving a fucknoone seems to be pushing themat least he informed his audience of a new Nijisanji debut
>>20635320They got 3 Gura Killers?
>>20635466aww that's cute
71k get
HOLOBROS???
>>20635836The lazy whore
>>20635900OHNONONONONONO HOLOKEKS????
>>2063558830kWhat were selejo numbers?
Slightly faster growth than yesterdayProbably gonna be another 100k+ stream
How does Daisenpai Elira comapre to Daisenpai Sora?
>>20635971Pfff hahahaha
>>20635693Noone is giving a fuck? Or pushing them? Most of the viewers in there are japanese.
>>20636156Depending on how they got at the free portion
>>20636059Uh eyesight reps?
>>20636223>Elira>daisenpaikindly kys
>>20633701This the girl who put on that skimp KFP outfit and was showing her asshole to Kiara?
I wish Cover would add another idol outfit variation, because the jacket, corset, and the belly versions are getting old.
>>20636223Sora made Ai Kneel at her death bed
>>20636223someone called elira daisenpai?
80k
>>20635971Yeah nijikeks midget standard what abut it?
>>20635971I feel like this was not a well thought-out decision.
>>20636382Yeah, that's the one, but she did other hololive cosplay, like Marine or Noel. Albeit I'm pretty sure Kiara is her oshi, she sent her multiples akas
>>20636426The nokeks did
>>206362231. daisenpai isn't a thing in nijisanji, only ai is called as such2. elira already denied being called as such because she feels the others who built nijisanji are the ones who should be called like that
>>20636515It is not
87k get.A little slow but we;re getting there
Fuck I hate that transition music. I keep thinking it's Noel's orisong
AKI SEXXXXXXXX WOAHHHHHHHHH
>>20635971Gura killersFem Vox
ELVES
>>20636682This is faster than yesterday no?
>32k They just HAD TO WAIT ONE WEEKhiw hard is that?
I HATE ELVES
Why isn't this a unit?
>>20636905Yesterday SSS hovered around 93k iirc
ww3 has nothing on this
>>20636515Debut at the same time as Holofes. Of course it wasn't.
flare debuff is real
>>20637022Hell just wait a few hours until the concert/free portion is over and they can double that number. This is just baffling decision
90k getsame as yesterday, the counter is fucking struggling
>>20637079can the board get 200 post/min again?
>>20637022I doubt it's that, VTA just kind of dampens the hype because you already know a fair bit about the streamer before they debut
>>20637211just you wait when it's pink woman turn
>>20637211Wait until pink and orange
>>20637079>They just keep losing to the chinese cartoon ethots
>>20637225Please don't pretend that anybody actually watched VTA content.
>>20637346>200 posts of muted every minute
92k people watching Aki.
shit, this will slip to the vta debut
So it's ~140k viewers between main channel and watchalongs.
>>20637079All the action seems to have ground to a halt anyway.
>>20637580You going to combine peaks again?
>>20637225Yeah those 100 people
fuck wamy's model is pure sex
>>20637438Even if you didn't it still doesn't feel like they're debuting a "new streamer"
Will the Niji debuts beat the chin man?
>>20637601No the siege of marupol is still ongoing, it's just less of the "new hot thing" so less people are talking about itThe combat footage emerging from it is something else
>>20637689yes
94k get
Neoporte debut numbers > niji debut numbers I can feel it.
>>20637689what, i don't have the sites open cause my browser is about to crash with 2 streams + 2 threads, are they really not beating toya
>Lightsticks mostly blueI expected it but it's still kinda sad to see.
>>20637438There's a thing called hearsay and people talking to each other about impressions, anon. Even if only like 5k watched their debuts and even less saw their journey, others still heard about it in some way or another, be it in clips or other aspects...
>>20637777Emperor quads! I kneel.
>>20637689yeah but that is an awful low bar.
>>20637777Oh shit. 100k confirmed
Rushia was suppose to be the third singer in this slot huh
>>20637795It's no slight on Aki or Flare. Lamy is just that good.
>>20638134looks like it
>>20638134I'm skeptical they would have blown Rushia's solo in the free portion. They probably shifted all the acts around when they shitcanned her.
>>20638134Cunny replaces hag. Many such cases.
This homo is inclining for sure.
shion can't dance for shit and she's been so long in holo
Dammit, elves talked for to long so now the growth is stunted.
Oh. A rare beast. On the free part?
>>20638304never put the effort in
>ayame on the screencan she break the 99k curse
>>20638304She's a depressed teenager who barely leaves her bed
>>20638297His birthday buddy and Sex friend is on stage today. Of course he's inclining. They're practically family.
C'mon lazy ogre slut, get us over 100k.
98k get
Well at least the first girl alone has her debut higher than the last fucking selejo girl kek
This is sad…
The debut is a vtuber's most important stream.You want as many eyes as possible to your stream.They'd be lucky to maintain 5% of that as their audience.You can grow of course but still.I am afraid these girls are doomed by Anycolor's garbage management to be 1K shitters.Yagoo can't save everyone...
>>20638521oh yeah Risu is performing today
>>20638585>losing to chinman with a debutjesas
Does this count as Ayame's one stream a month?
>>20638585This is below HoloID numbers
>>20638569Who's that? I don't know the Niji group names besides Edengumi.
>>20638585where is the 100k ?
Finally broke 100k.This is the power of SSR huh
100K get
>>20638585manjisnaji...i kneel
100K GET WITH AYAME ON THE SCREENTHE CURSE HAS BEEN LIFTED
Chat goes wild when ayame appeared, imagine if she has the motivation...
Oni 100k get
let's get this out of the way since you asked for it nigger.
>>20638585Just think of it as a new costume reveal. 37k is already very high for a Niji.
>>20638585Less than 180k huh? That's quaint.
>>20638550Wish granted. Now hand over the check and fuck off.
>>20638732Double back to back SSR at that
Was was yesterday peak?
>>20638698This counts for a 6 month voucher.
Giggles… I KNEEL
>>20638907113k?
>>20638907105k
>Ayame and Shion can't be bothered to talkDon't know what I was expecting.
>>20638907
Bunny in free part.
cute unit, two predators and two prey
Pekora!
>>20638907105.7k. We're only 2k away from that now
>>20638970>>20639000104k ATM
>>20638569This is not 2020, anon.It's like saying HoloX had higher debuts than Gen4, so they are a success.Is this the first time we see a new big corpo wave/gen doing worse debut-wise compared to the previous one?Did Ethyria do worse than Obsydia? Maybe that one too.ID3 will get higher debuts.Imagine saying that a new ID generation will get higher debuts than a Niji JP(!) new wave
Pekora teaser before they hit the paywall.
>Pekora on stageIt's over. Any numberfag who want to compare number other numbers for the day should just stop now.
JWU, any announcements on day 2 expo?
>>20639212will they make it 40 minutes like yesterday's ?
>hey I have a great idea, let's debut 3 new talents during holofes concert>im sure this wont affect their numbersSasuga anykara
>>20639153Hag sex power will push them across
>>20639263Live2d 3.0
Still stuck at 104k
>>20639209This whole Vtuber Academy is a half-baked concept anyway, and the way they're debuting them isn't helping. It's basically saying they don't give a shit.
>Youtube counter just commited sudoku
>quartetProbably because they had to move 1 person from a missing duet.
lmao the counter just died
>7 out of 15 members already spent their group slot within 2 songsThere's going to be a surprise performanceScreencap this
>she didn't beat chinman>she didn't hit 40KHOLY SHIT
>>20639418Not really, the theme for this one is pretty clear with predator/prey
105k getSeeing Botan on stage is making me tear up a bit
My youtube is dieing kek, time to move to spwn.
105k !
105k!
>>20639479It's Rosalyn and Hitomi Chris, tagging in from outside the ring.
105k get
Already higher than yesterday's peakDay 1 faggots utterly obliterated
>didnt beat toyalmao
ROMANCULUS SUCK MY DICK
106k you can grudgepost now
106K, day 2 did it
>>20639479kson is streaming right now if that's what you're implying
>day 2 peaked higher than day 1 Day1fags btfo
>>20639209Anon that was a joke, stop being an autist retard holy shit
107k get, holy shit
>day 2 will be lower than day 1>niji debuts will mog the stream>won't even hit 50kHoly fuck nijiniggers really can't win this week
>>20639608watch out watch out it's Yogiri with a steel chair!!!
First girl done
>>20639719just like last year huh
free part half an hour today, ouch
>106K and going>Making Pekora the last performance for PoorfagsYAGOO KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING THIS ENTIRE TIME!!!
>>20639821last girl might hit 60k
>>20639821poor girl... why did she choose anycolor and their garbage brand
Pekora Again?!!! I shouldn't have bought that damn day 2 if I had known!
Pretty sure I saw 107k before it's ended
>>20639857That means the show is shorter today? There's a theory that the free part is 15 minutes per show, maybe they put more announcement at the end?
>>20640005107.4k was the peak
>>20639821So Anykara sacrificed the first girl? They really taking this 'giving an arm so we can break their bone' tactics, aren't they?
>>20640005Yep, 107,4
Next Niji girls might get some of the broke niggers to watch them. See how much they clear over the first girl's total.
>>20640005yep
>>20639857I blame that green witch
>>20640005Yeah vrabi catch that peak.
>>20639794I'm expecting to grudgepost hard that fucker in particular 20578652
>>20640005Yeah 107 I saw it too
>>20639996>laughs from my ship
>>20639986Because unlike what this thread thinks, you can be successful with even 1k-500 viewers.
>>20639857Technically yesterday was a mistake of the staff.
>>20640055Nah, more likely that Rushia was supposed to be in the free part/the group song and to MC, but her getting fired obviously made it impossible to do anymore.
Okay, real talk, will Neo Porte's debuts surpass Nijisanji's?Do we still believe that Nijisanji is the number 2 in the industry?And if yes, will that be true by the end of the year? With VSPO and Neo Porte getting stronger and taking a chunk of their audience?
>>20640093implying they're even gonna scratch the free portion when the wall is 70k away from
So Aqua will be the climax like suitowa huhmaybe duet with okayu
>Higher peak than Day 1And some fags (chumpedos and nijiniggers) were saying day 2 has a weak line up and not many people would had showed up...
>>20640093If they did it was to literally no effect, since the free part was almost 1:1 the same audience as yesterday.
>>20640230So more people bought Day 1 tickets?
>>20640172You can survive working at McDonalds too, it's just probably not your dream to do so.
>anons still thinking those numbers have to do with holofes and not with VTA being a known quantity for months from clips in Japan
>>20640230People were more informed about how all this concert thing worked compared to the first day.
>>20640230It's a slow start for sure, but the back-to-back SSR and Peko quartet did it in the end
>>20640204i mean, if Neo Porte chuubas end up being all fps focused it's more likely that they take audience from VSPO than Niji, no?
>>20640440COPE
>>20640204Neo Porte won't beat the last "real" Niji wave but it'll beat these scrubs.
>>20640230>>20640230Never listen to Cumtards and their 200IQ brain please.
>>20640230putting Pekora is huge for boosting that numberalso it's totally Kanata's fault killing 2k people off
>>20640402shush, don't ruin his shitpost
>>20640230Cumkek delusion. Nothing surprising. Their shark not even tweeting despite how much she supposedly "like" Hololive. The cognitive dissonance must be making their delusion worst.
>>20640235Don't the have another debut after whichever new girl they just threw under the truck? It would be retarded if they don't do a second debut after her to catch the freepigs who can't into the rest of the the Fes. This would literally be the best time to catch an audience.
>>20640426Better to close all of the agencies outside of hololive then
>>20640199Man she really fucks up a ton of planned stuff, no wonder they were pissed off at her. Also it shows how bad what she did was that they immediately fired her despite all the trouble it brings
>>20640230It has a weak lineup if you don't particularly like any of the talent there. Day 1 was a must watch even if you didn't like the talent there because they had the best performers.
Any possibility day 2 free part peak is higher cause less ppl bought day 2 ticket?
So.... when does my oshi appear? Anons?
>>20640678saturday vs sunday
>>20640679Mel is after this
>>20639794>>niji debuts will mog the streamWhere are you finding these delusional Niji fans, holy shit
>>20640599girl 1>girl2>girl3>all three girl on debut program on nijisanji channel>debut song
>>20640204>6 day debutWill be obvious when Neo porte going to have more golds than Niji in March
>>20640402You know how you see the merch lists and say, 500 people bought an individual and 4000 bought the whole set? Probably similar, the two day purchases are gonna dwarf purchases of individual days.
>>20640771There were a couple people in /vt/ yesterday hard coping
>>20640678>Pekora>Aqua>Fucking Mori of all holomenI don't think so anon
>>20639986Yeah, she should have just walked right up to Cover and joined Hololive, because that's how things work.
>>20640799So do they have another debut today or what? They did it last time with the EN and it would be a really, really retarded move if this was the only debut they had plan today.
>>20640230Day 1 had more good performers, day 2 has audience favorites.
>buy ticket for both days>still watch free part stream like a true numberchad
>20640230>20640589>20640559Shit up the thread with delusion this fast? Really?
>>20640884>>20640771Those are false-flaggers you idiot.there's no way VTA would get higher number than Holofes of all things.
>>20640609Those places exist so people can get experience and hope to make the big leagues some day, and they make a small profit for the owners presumably.
>>20640230I'm definitely surprised considering Day 1 has all of the good singers and dancers. Maybe people just really love Lamy
>>20640230I still think day 1 had better girls
40k! toya mogged
>>20641069>every retard is a falseflaggerNow you're on holobrony tier logic
well, the 2nd debut beat chinman i guess
>>20640986Same. I like to see the number counter. Watching unnumbered content makes my skin crawl.
KNEEL TO THE KINGKILLER
>>20640589Meds fungus
>>20641165Mel's singing so everyone probably tabbed out.
>>20641165Considering the free portion of concert is over I expected it to rise a lot faster than it did. This is pretty bad.
are you not watching numberfags? why are you numberfagging right now wtf.
>>20640204>Okay, real talk, will Neo Porte's debuts surpass Nijisanji's?Hard to say. Emperor is big but how that will affect new faces is unknown.>Do we still believe that Nijisanji is the number 2 in the industry?Yes. King, chinman, Mito. You would need to delete those three for a chance to niji to drop from top 2.
4k people are watching the restream. Day 1 must be a great advertisement if Day 2 has better numbers.
>>20640986>Bought tickets for both days>Sees Holo is 1 win away from securing the month>Watches the free part to secure the month for Hololive
>>20641203There's a limit to how retarded someone can be before they're in troll/falseflagger category, and thinking a VTA graduate, female Nijisanji member would "mog" Holofest really pushes it
>>20641345Well it's Pekora turn so they better tab the fuck in
>>20641390Wherever I am, I must also think about numbers.
>>20641390i am watching, mel's solo was the perfect proportion between cute and sexpeko is on now
Kaibutsu them niccccceeee
>>20640230>>20640573>>20640589This is the same person btw
>>20640204VSPO isn't taking a chunk of their audience and Neo Porte have less twitter activity than even those girls. Hal is big but this doesn't mean his vtubers will be.
/#/'S OSHI
>>20641499Any sufficiently advanced stupidity will appear indistinguishable from trolling.
>>20640230Are you retarded??? Thanks to day 1 the day 2 is higher. They bring the public idiot so now people are checking the day 2
Does SPWN segment out chat now? I remember when I watched Bloom the chat was practically impossible to read but now it's like I'm in a room with only 100 people.
>>20641612But what about the rrat that Bora/Qu is among them?
>>20641092No one gives a shit about Lamy, more likely that they're here for Mori.
>>20640204Nijisanji will never lose second place with how much they make from merch, concerts, SC and the popularity of many from 2018-2019. VSPO is third on this industry in sc for example and they barely reach nijisanji, being on similar level to 774 instead.
peko's solo is actually good and cute wtf
bloom 2, is it happening or not?
>>20641724there's a Jp chat and a overseas chat, you're probably in the overseas chat
Vox's fanbase is going through another yab again kek.
It's amazing that they just threw the first Niji chick to the wolves like that. Would moving their schedule up by 30 minutes really be that impossible? If they're hoping for a saviorfag route for the first one, at least that might work cause even I'm feeling sorry for her they did something like this to her. Least they're not having their other more popular members restreaming the debuts this time.
>>20641735Well it's a rrat for a reason anon. Qu is active as Qu still in React and on her indie account and who knows where the fuck bora is
>>20641866What is it this time?
>>20641866qrd?
>>20641866Jesas again?
>>20641866im impressed the fanbase gets into more yabs than the talent
>>20641700>This is what cumkek really believe
>>20641672I kneel
>>20641803Reps, EVERYONE is doing reps. Some people will say "Paid dancers, etc!", but it's pretty clear everyone IS doing dance/singing reps on top of streaming, no wonder some of the girls are running into throat issues all the goddamn time.
Damn they're really saving Sora and Aqua for the last half eh.
holy shit i'm watching Ollie and FBK watchalong, and they're so in-sync
>>20640230>>20640573>>20640589>>20642036This is the same person btw
>>20641803She's come so far. So happy right now.
>>20641907It's not like second is performing much better.
>>20641866He didn't even stream did he?
Still only one MC so far
>>20642138Just like they did Suisei/Towa for day 1, yes.
>>20640573>>20640589>People are happy and watching>nijiniggers pretend be holofan targeting gura as alwaysGo back to you shithole thread fungus
Melty kiss have mercy on my dick
>>20640230>>20640573>>20640589>>20642036
>>20642126well, there's a couple of stand outs that still can't dance for shit, shion being an example this time
>>20642382No, the problem is that anti-chumbud isn't a nijifag, he's just a gura/chumbud anti, and he's been shitting up /#/ for more than half a year at this point, and is often responsible for starting the Jp vs EN and the Pekora vs Gura timeloops. It's so tiring.
>>20642353Yeah they're fucking blazing thru this shit.
>>20642435Okay, true, but on the average you can see those who have been putting the work in have improved. Depresshion is just the way she is...
>>20642576>>20642353maybe that's why they put out the notice earlier because this day will be quite abit shorter than yesterday
>>20642435 (me)also, rushia used to be this, there's a reason most sankisei dance numbers were shit, and it was mostly rushia's fault
Oga 2k get.
>>20642353oh hey speak of the devil
That duo was pure sex dammit! Blondies at Hololive never disappoint no matter what.
>>20642679The tide lifts all boats.
Even if Hololive doesn't get gold today, it's over for Nijisanji. Suisei's birthday and anni in the 22th.
>>20642353the part with Rushia/Pekora MC need to be cut please understand
>>20642680And they show why they're bottom-tier of the earlier gens.
>>20642786There's also Fauna's birthday tomorrow, although being EN the day will definitely go to Neo Porte
>>20641866This is what you risk by pandering to such a fragile demographic. Many companies have learnt this the hard way.
>>20641934>>20641949I am reading from second hand info from tw community. He wants chinese mods and gave a mainlander mod power (bilibili tl pirate group). Taiwanese and mainlanders are quarreling over it.
>>20642903that inflexion choco does after every fucking sentence is annoying as shit
All things considered these Niji debuts have been a success. Selejo didn't even get 30k.
>>20642878>No MC part of pekobotawatamiobut why
Seems crazy to me that the 2nd girl is only 5k higher than the 1st who had her debut while 100k people were watching the free portion of holofes.
>>20642786they already won this month
>>20642976JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
>>20642625They have 28 songs yesterday and we're at the 10th today, how many songs do you think they'll have today?
>>20643033>selejo the bar... is so low...
>>20642955>the day will definitely go to Neo PorteHal avoided HoloFes or Niji debuts, I'm not sure which fueled the decision. Also I have a theory that the type of person who'd check a female debut is likely to pay for holofes.
>>20642976He really is a moron. At this rate he will be a final yab for Nijisanji.
>>2064314225 or 26
>>20643033wasn't edengumi like... 80-90k? why go all the way back to selejo?
>>20642976You're pulling our legNo way thats real KEK
I looked at the Niji EN thread, there's only 2 mentions of Vox in the entire thing. Whoever said there is some yab seems to be full of shit.
>>20642679Not surprised. His commentary is easy to listen to since he doesn't yell in your ears
>>20643033Compare them with Edengumi not Selejo...
>>20643033Lain had more than 60k before
>>20642976so he is indeed genuinely retarded huh
>>20642976i refuse to belive he actually did this or even got the oke from management to do it.NO WAY THAT IS REAL
>>20643033Would've been gold if it weren't for the HoloBOTs, holobronnies won't acknowledge it, but the blatant view botting is disgusting.
>>20643056It make sense if you consider the amount of people who leave because they don't have the ticket after the free portion is done but is still wanting some entertainment. A debut is a good net to cast, especially if there is going to be singing. Gaining extra 5k more, especially if we consider people might have left after the first debut, is pretty good in this event.
>>20642976No one is this dumb right? You're making it up right?
>>20642955NP's debuts tomorrow, so that's gold for them
>>20643265Edengumi has the power of manjisanji with them anon
>>20643389lain got more than 60k anon
>>20643212Hal is a numberfag
>>20642976>Second hand infoYea, that's a big X from me. If it WAS true, that sounds monumentally idiotic given he should KNOW the problems wrt TW/Mainland shit.
>>20643563see >>20642766
>>20642976I know Niji is less strict with their talents but what are the managers doing? Shouldn't something like chat mods go through management first?
>>20642976
>>20643267nijien thread barely discuss males actively much less readt TW baordsstill doubt that is true
>>20642999>Trips de Ultima>Wasted by an absolute faggotChocosen is SEX. Go watch /lux
>>20643919No, they just mod whoever on the spot.
>>20643919>waiting for management to do shitHe probably doesn't trust corporate management to be anywhere near competent, just look at what happened to Coco's chat modding experience under Cover's management.
>>20642976>He wants chinese mods and gave a mainlander mod power (bilibili tl pirate group).I'm going to pretend thats a troll and continue on my day
>>20643919They let them run an unsupervised discord server, what do you think?
>>20642976Nothingburger
Lazy fat cat ahah you scared me.
ISRAELhttps://twitter.com/blbl05/status/1505103033583079430https://twitter.com/HqYuzu/status/1505385299404152832
Look at these numbers.
>>20644610holy shit
>>20642976yeah. sorry anon. even us holofags won't believe it.
>>20644540ALL OUT WAR
>>20644610
>>20644540>it has more than 10 likesoh shit
>>20644349I still don't believe that was an accident.t. rrat
>>20644610>>20644747
>>20643683>>20643957Well. its the thread where taiwanese talked about vtuber happenings like here beside the numbers (there is a different thread about numbers). It is mostly accurate news since there are actually mods there to ban falseflaggers etc.
>>20644540>401 likes Another yab...
>>20644540Vox, I don't like you, but how can you be this dumb
>>20644829give links
>>20644540>he actually put a mainlander mod>chat is still fucking shit200iq plays i see
>>20644540Are we at shambles stage yet?
>>20644540>it's realHoly fuck Vox did you drink bleach as a kid?
>>20644540bumped
>>20644991holy shit /#/ is inclining
>>20644829>there are actually mods there to ban falseflaggersHow do I become Taiwanese?
Okay, serious questions, are they really employing life-like Holograms on stage or is it one giant screen that manipulates viewer's depth perception?
>>20644829I just wanted proof so that I can either shit on him or watch a glorious dumpster fire but >>20644540 should suffice
>>20644747Noice, noice
>>20642976why do you think hes doing it, the mainland bugs are demanding it as usual
>>20644991OOF
>>20644991nijisanji mogged by /#/ ikuzo!!! Hololive thread by the way.
I'm gonna be real, i hate Vox but still i don't wish the chinese harassment to even my worst enemies. The kid is still young too
>>20644829you'll have to provide a link, I believe Vox is that dumb
>>20645118They're actually there. If you rushed on stage you could touch them. You would die, but you could do it.
>>20644991embarassing
>>20644829>>20645255 (me)oh wait nevermind, saw the tweets
Apparently moguposting brought /vt/ above 250 post per minute, jesus
>>20644610>>20644747What's that from?
>>20644829https://majeur.zawarudo.org/virtuelles/res/1244972.html#1250270
>>20645246If you stick your hand in a fucking bear trap to grab a dollar I'm not gonna feel sorry for you when it snaps the bone clean off.
>>20645429Global
just so you know, the low tiers really proving why they are low tiers in the paid part
>>20644349You don't need management or managers for modding on Nijisanji, never did.
>>20645179at this point i think UNIRONICALLY vox belives china,HK,and taiwan are the same thing.
>>20645426if there's no screenshot it doesn't count
>>20643212>Hello fellow NayjaySenjay fan. I am B-chan, the head director and planner for ItchyCollars Livers. I have a brilliant idea for the debut of our new talents. Let's have them go against that no-name company that lost the sweet, sweet chinese market. As if anyone would want to watch a bunch of vtubers sing and dance in 3D. We should also have our other members stream over them and not give a shit at all, maybe even have them stream their debut directly from their own streams. Trust me, I love the Rainbow chokers and would never do anything to sabotage the company
Well I'm glad that one Aki fan is eating good tonight, Aki's performance is my favorite of the day so far
>>20645118It uses a screen, much the same way Miku does (because it's the same people, CRYPTON).
>>20645651There's no way. I refuse to believe Vox is that dumb
>>20645651>Vox belives China,HK,and Taiwan are the same thing.Based?
>>20645651I mean, they kind of are, in the sense that Serbia, Croatia, and Bosnia are the same thing. The closer you are the more you want to kill the people that are just like you but slightly different in a way that pisses you off.
>>20645792kek
Aki... I coomed so hard I made a hole in my ceiling. Her singing wasn't that great but her dance AHHHHHHHH
I like these girls but I'm glad they're not in the free part
>>20646056Shut up nigger
>>20645651One China Policy babyyy
>>20645731>>20645478
Sio was right
>>20645651IF "by same way" you mean "they all speak a form of chinese", sure, but if you told me Mandarin and Cantonese were the same thing IRL I'd be very tempted to backhand you if it wasn't a joke.
Oh yeah I forgot about RBC, isn't she in masters? Why isn't she included in VSaikyou?
>>20646105I'm just saying, these slow songs will kill number
>>20646219She's not master anon.
>>20646128This board… its over…
>>20646219PRcup
>>20646219Sio manipulating people behind the scenes. She's the BunnyJif of the Japanese vtubing world.
Roboco's voice gives me an instant erection. Its hard to quantify but there is something about it.
May be some staff in niji is a holofag and is actively sabotaging them looking at their recent yabs.
>>20646186>t hk diaspora
>>20646262I disagree, Aki's performance is the best of the day so far. But really, is it just me or has the songs today seems more melancholic than yesterday?
>>20646219>isn't she in mastersFuck no, unless she paid for it.t. robosa
Oh shit its here
>>20636515This isn't as bad as gen5 mogging selejo into the ground.
>>20646219Sio vetoed her participation.
>>20646219Because you need 27 Nijisanji members instead.
Oh here we go
How can day one copers still say day one had better performers, when the least popular holos from day 2 have performed better than most of day 1?
I fucking called it, Red. Kiara will be Hinotori.
Lean girl ENTER!
Mori mogging the shit out of the sleepy JP performances instantly, I'm actually awake now.
Red huh
called it. it's red
This is so bad and cringe dancing
what is this dancing hahaha
>>20646676Moona still mogged everyone so far, but Aki's performance has been pure concentrated sex.
I respect Calli for actually doing an english song.
Kek what are these dance Mori
Why can't these ENs try to make it look like they are singing and dancing at the same time and it's not prerecorded singing?
My god, Calli's dance is cringe
unwatchable dancing but atleast the song woke me up. if it's hinotori next, I have time to make coffee atleast.
Was she rigged by Gura's live 2D rigger?
Eh... Hinotori
>>206469742 for 2
That Jojo pose, the epitome of cringe. Holy shit I'm glad I muted that whore. I'll appreciate much more the chicken's shitty orisong than this bitch.
>>20647631Jesas
No Sparks... Pain.
>>20647846Just help your oshi get at least the number Mori reach in her music you schizo Kek
Kek, nice choreography you got there Mori.Kiara is miles better.
>>20647976While I may find sparks to be the more interesting song, Hinotori fits better for Fes.
Mogu mogu!?
>>20648085Yeah, I actually do like Mori but it's clear which one has idol experience
Everything about Mori is cringe.
Kiara is at least watchable, her song reminds me of steins gate
I honestly can't tell if you fags are being serious, but what on earth sort of Choreography was supposed to be done in a dress like Mori's that wouldn't just look super unrealistic?
>>20648085>failed rapper vs. failed idol
>Oga is tearing up seeing yopi on stageMy man
>>20648121You're crazy. Sparks is the best song for FES, but only if they actually had actual choreography going with a crew.I guess that's the next step for Hololive...
iofi walks weird
Way to exposed yourself ENschizo kek
>>20648424mori antis are... not exactly objective
get ready for my part retards
oh shit, just a bit more
>>20648424that is just moris antis nitpicking everything
>>20649070i honestly don't know what to expect from treerat
>47,194人Not terrible. I'm not sure why this thread is meme-ing about this being a failure. Not everything is HoloX. Anycolor should have hot dropped them like HoloX though.
discounting Moris outfit not being really for idol dancing and shit man Mori got fucked on model, her face seemed really flat and her hair seemed... off? compared to Kiara whos model was incredibly stellar
>>20649193>Sub 50kmogged by lain
>>20649193is below edengumi
>>20649217The shading under her chin makes the face look flat.
>>20649084SUGOI!
EN mogged
>>20649193is below fucking lain
Man, Oga's really crying in front of 3k viewers just after seeing his ID friends on stage
>>20649193Because for some fucking reason ACCELERATOR (LEVEL 5) decided to drop them right during the HoloFes. It's pure stupidity, they could've had bigger numbers.
NOW DO THIS DURING STREAMS YOU DUMB TREERAT
Risu is so fucking talented holy shit, shame she didn't put enough effort to it like Moona.
Holy shit Risu
Damn, oga with 3k.
>>20649523Kira Kira Family bond is strong man
now I see why jp puts risu above gura
>>20649523Oga is chad enough to not be scared to cry about seeing his friends succeed
Fucking Risu why can't you just sing more often
>>20649193>47,194人>Not terribleAnon, it was in slippage range for a midnight run of the mill no gimmicks Toya stream. It was not terrible but only because *some* didn’t get mogged
how is ID mogging EN both days
ID has been bringing their A game to these two days. Risu showing her talent is so rare.
>>20649795Why indog like this?
ID's 3D is better than ENs lol with Mori's being the worse out of all them.
Kiara's collecting her money with her freechat
Day 2 seems to be better than day 1
>>20649976Still got a bronze so keep sneeding nignog.
Jesas is ID gonna have the best performance for both days?
HOLY FUCK RISU
That voice gap. No wonder Risu CCV is shit.
>>20650105not on the jp side, so far it's been a snoozefest except for like peko, and aki if you're into that i guess, hope the end is better
>>20650065Kiara and Ina had great 3Ds id say, but Ame and Guras were kinda just alright and Mori drew a short straw
Day 1 : MoonaDay 2 : RisuHoly shit ID is too strong
It's funny how both breakouts moments are from HoloID.
>>20650065Day 1 EN girls have great 3D. Not sure what happened here.
TreeRat…
>>20650318>>20650318Seriously what did they do to her face
>>20650033En schizo, aka gen 5 schizo, aka niji fuckers, aka fungus.
MY LORD TREERAT
>>20647631They gotta fix that, it's distracting. Everything else looked pretty good except Gura's extensive clipping issues with her hoodie. Ina/Ame/Kiara seemed fine and all the IDs were good too.
>>20650289Terribly biased opinion, day 2 performances have been top tier, even from the likes of Choco and Mel
>>20650065ID's 3d has been ready for over a year now so no surprise its more refined
Moona and Risu took both days with their amazing range... I can't help but kneel.
>>20644540>put a persona that cant watch streams regularly wihtout vpn as a mod
>>20647631oof that's not good at all
>>20650033Because that's true fucking ESL. I'm a frog eater but even I could notice that.Ayunda could piss on sharky whenever she wants when it comes to sing.
making shion talk counts for how many streams
the only way today is beating yesterday is if they have some big announcement in the end
I think EN models need some time to perfect, but overall they don't look that bad.
>>20650833100 stream
>>20650833Every sentence == one stream
New thread >>20650341
posts per minute status?
>>20650893THEY LOOK GREATwith just a few problems like mori flat face when looked from below or kairas wierd leg to hip ratio.But in movement they look amzing, moris dress was perfect with her movements regardless of her choreography.
This is Alice&U's comment section. Nips already loving it after watching it live
>>20650893Ina's looks really good, as a tako I don't have any complaints at all. I'd rather they work on trying to get the tentacles functional as something she could turn on. Gura and Mori need the most emergency work.
>>20651115Good on her, more people need to listen to the song
oh shit triple phony
>>20650893Supposedly ID 3D models have been done for ages, which is why they look so polished in comparison. There just needs to be a bit more touching up on EN side for their models and it’ll be alright for sure
>>20650811Stay mad.
>>20650893To be fair on them ID model is also less complicated than Myth
>>20651281Given the timeline of when they were supposed to debut, that makes perfect sense. Mori->Gura->Ame->Ina+Kiara in order of who needs fixes imo.
>>20651093
Man, I feel good about HoloID3 debuts. They might get 100k CCV during debut.
>>20651560doubt that, unless they debut in like 2 weeks
HoloID is gonna incline again...
>>20651685Anon, haven't you seen the attention that HoloFes is having on HoloID?
>>20651685They'll announce it this fest, i'm pretty sure. God, I hope they get more singers. ID2 has shit singers, but somehow Cover landed 2 top singers in ID1.
>>20651560Depends if the JPs will clear the schedule or stream over them. Remember Ollie and crew only got like 50-60ks at the very peak of western vtuber popularity and before the 2020 cull.
HoloID got so much good publicity from Moona and Risu's performance.
>>20651965I won't stand for Reine being called shit. She's decent. 3rd in ID and better than most of the ENs.
>>20651685>>20651560i think ID3 will announce & debut after id1 3Ds free live debuts
>>20651475Mori's face (and torso?), Gura's arm, Ame's coat. What's for Ina and Kiara?
>>20651914Yes, hence why I said two weeks, after that attention is going to drop sharply and they aren't going to get 100K. Probably around 70k which is still pretty good
>>20651965Anya is pretty good. pretty surprising I know, because she seems to hate doing karaoke's stream
solo part ending in five songs.following that is most likely a sora, ayame, roboco trio.concert won't be over for another hour, announcements?
Hastag status?
>>20652236Peko aqua duo
>>20652159there's a reason why idol outfits has no sleeves since it clips as seen on gura and ame
>>20652159Minor things I can't think of that stood out immediately at most, which is why they're both at the bottom of 'needing fixes'. IMO they'd be fine as is, but I'm sure going over them with a fine-tooth comb could find issues that could be fixed.
i wish post processing was able to find a way to remove flare's high pitched shrill
>>20652312434K, a lot slower than yesterday
>>20652312#つながるホロライブDAY2438K Tweetsas of the time of this post.
>>20652236We lost 1 MC, 1 group song, and probably 1 MC because of that Judas.
>>20652349Aqua carrying Pekora to masters in Apex, everystream is a single pov. Imagine the numbers.
>>206523121.2mil combined
Okay, since we're at day 2 already, how do guys think of HoloFes and HoloExpo? Have they done a good job of marketing the Hololive brand in Japan and all over the world?
>>20652880Everything has been so amazing.
>>20652880>WorldwideIMO it certainly feels like it's woken up a lot of existing watchers, but long-term effects are hard to gauge in the moment. We'll be better able to see how things shape out in 3 months.>JapanIf companies were dumb enough to not already have something in the works with Hololive before (if they were interested due to market demographics) they better get in line now.
>>20653199It's overdone and too polished. I like things to be a little rough around the edges. It not being truly live is a pisser.
>>20652880Hopefully they'll translate more skits for the videos to eigo at the HoloExpo, but its been great to watch overall
>>20652880Definitely could have done more for Expo. Even releasing a fucking JPEG of the schedule in English would have went a long way.
>>20652880My only complaint is they keep royalty fucking up on merch. Leaving so much potential money on the table out of a morbid fear of having a few leftover plastic knickknacks is just retarded. Their markup is so huge they'd make a profit even if they only sold a quarter of the stock they had produced.
>>20652880HoloFes has easily been one of the best vtuber concerts to ever happen. At the very least they have set a new bar for what a fes should be like, and between this and Kizuna Ai's final live they've really forced companies to step up their fucking game
>Botan gave APEX up for thisit was the correct decision
>>20652880I think it’s put international members in the spotlight more than it has the JPs, and that’s saying a lot for how quality the whole event has been. People have been going nuts over these 3Ds and how well they’ve performed. Also, just Gura alone:>Sold out merch both days across the board>Most expensive card in the TCG set>Absolutely insane engagement on Twitter for her>Illegal upload performance hit 400k views in 6-7 hours by itself>A full scale statue that’s going to go for $50k+ in sale>And moreAlso, ENs did INCREDIBLY well both days on getting viewers tuning in for the expo streams. I believe both Myth and Council had the highest peaks for events on both days, excluding the obvious Yagoo opening ceremony and the NePoLaBo expo tours. So yes, to me it’s been a success
>>20653475This is Cover's first Expo, you can overestimate everything or it will turn into another Tanacon or Dashcon.
>>20653516I WANT NijiFes to do well at this point, at least to the same level as HoloFes + expo has done. The last thing we need is Cover getting into the lead and getting complacent because they don't have enough competition. Also, the lack of a proper cheering live Audience due to coof restrictions still pisses me off, but what can you do when Cover is playing by the rules.
>>20652880>>20653467this i fully agree with, more accessible for global audience to understand whats happening
>>20653802You can tell they were very conservative with production. Anything that wasn't a fucking acrylic was selling out instantly
>>20653763Council did bad for both of their Expo appearances.
>>20652880expo needs work on merch and more toursit attaections. covid restriciton helped witht he latter.Also subs on english for Jp secitons.Cant say anything for the concert it has been the most quality they have done.
>>20652880>HololiveSure.>HoloIDAbso-fucking-lutely.
>>20654057Council karaoke was fun, the first bit was...typical Council.
>>20653475Anon you don't even know how much stocks they had. Did you just look at their online store stocks?
>>20654325If shit is selling out in the first hour then it was underproduced, you don't need to check their stock #s to know that
Sora is such a natural. I'm amazed every time I watch her. So talented.
>>20654468It creates demands anon. When the next time Cover releases more merch, fans will flock their site.
>>20654325I looked at how quickly they sold out of physical merch at the site when they knew the exact number of tickets sold and fans present.
>>20654167Really remains to be seen. They certainly have had a great showing in the concerts. Will that translate to more real popularity in the long term?
>>20654201I was referring numberwise. The karaoke did really bad, viewers were lost instead of gained.
>>20653900I'm pretty sure Kizuna Ai and Cover outsourced most of the actual production to professionals, so I wouldn't be surprised if Anykara hires the same experts.
>>20654652Only if they're smart and hit the pedal to the metal after Fes. If they slack off after and don't do some streams to at least talk about things + do some Karaoke streams to hook more people, then it will have been a waste.
>>20654696>Anycolor insisting on using their lackluster own AR techbet
I think Sora must feel really proud. Like, she carried the whole Hololive name before it got big.Now, she is known worldwide, and not just as a Kizuna Ai clone. I mean, Kizuna is gone, Sora is still here.
>>20654652Yes, this is their best concert/fes so far, even nips said something like>5500 yen is too cheapBut one thing for sure, this will be the start of HoloID inclining, especially in nip land.
>>20654681Just during Sana's part, they got back up to what it was when the segment started by the end.
>>20654681I didn't get to catch it, but I suppose it isn't too surprising. It was already late in burger time, and JP is far less interested in Council than Myth.
Funny how everyone here collectively forgets Niji debuts once we've reached the later parts of the concert
>ayame doesn't have a group songrushia......
>>20655103Sorry what?
We lost Ayame/Rushia. Fuck that whore.
>>20654630not every fan will buy every piece of merchconversely some fans buy several pieces of the same merch
>>20654681Get some eyes retard. People tuned into the peaks of each day because it was exploring the expo and interacting with the fans. And guess what? Yesterday it went from 83k to 65-64k. Today? 78k to 63-64k. I don’t understand what you’re even trying to say
>>20655103What debut?
>>20655103Stop making stuff up, Nijisanji wouldn't try to debut new chuubas during one of the biggest events in vtuber history
>>20655103debuts couldn't even beat lain
>>20654978And yet Kizuna has much more importance and influence than Sora, holofag. Nothing Sora does will change that, she's not even more influent than the other heavenly kings or Mito or Himehina.Kizuna may be dead but she's like Jesus Christ.
>>20655103>Niji debutSurely no one would be retarded enough to debut during one of hololives biggest events?
>>20655103debuts?
>>20655181If you do end up with excess you can just turn around and sell it online.
>>20655103Nijiwho?I kid, but honestly from a numbers perspective the debuts for the VTA grads were mediocre for debuts in the current age of vtubing from Nijisanji/Hololive, so not much to talk about there, and there's probably more people watching the Fes that also comment in /#/.
>>20654970Just like intel was obsessed with their home 10nm but were stuck at 14nm forever, while AMD went to TSMC's 7nm. Sunk cost is a bitch
>>20655103If there's 3 anons in this thread who actually care about nijisanji outside of numbers it's too much so it's no surprise.
>>20655398niji debuted 3 girls from the academy shit at the same time as this, one of them couldn't even beat toya's stream