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Based calli

>> No.20572421

nothingburger

>> No.20572422

They still are, see rushia

>> No.20572453

but they are fake
shit's talking about what?

>> No.20572538

>>20572355
Oh nononono /vt/sisters what about the graduation?????

>> No.20572576

>>20572355
She likes idols in the same way she likes to define was a woman is, a very loose concept that suits her own cloud-chasing needs and not what the word originally means or stands for in reality.

>> No.20572622

I guess Yagoo finally called her

>> No.20572626
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>i didnt used to like idols
>but ever since i started making money from being an idol i've realised i was wrong
>anyway hear my talk about my latest rap album on an all male podcast hehe

>> No.20572650

>>20572355
I kneel

>> No.20572725

>>20572626
Who wouldn't like idols when you can do pretty much whatever you feel like and still get paid as one though?

>> No.20572732

>>20572355
That's the same thing many other normies experienced after they became idolfags. Mori is now initiated.

>> No.20572766

find the big chance to damage control huh
big family amirite holo brothers?

>> No.20572774

If she dunks on Bubi on stream, I will forgive her. For now? Her redemption arc is still far and long. Pink woman hate.

>> No.20572807

>>20572355
>empty words
watch how she acts not what she says

>> No.20572811

anon she's been saying this for a year and a half

>> No.20572829

>>20572766
Stfu nipplenigger go watch your irrelevant shiiters

>> No.20572842

Reminder that Mori is a fake as fuck poser. Never trust what she says.

>> No.20572899

>>20572829
sure is comfy here don't have to pay rent

>> No.20572919

>>20572355
but idolshit is fake af though
also why did join an idol agency when she hated idols?

>> No.20572927

>>20572829
Kek, once a brony always a brony.

>> No.20573029

>>20572355
START ACTING LIKE ONE
START ACTING LIKE OOOOOONE
YOU ARE AN IDOL
START ACTING LIKE ONE

>> No.20573052

Prove your loyalty by cutting ties with the TT faggots AND confront Connor on stream. If not, then this is just damage control. Simple as.

>> No.20573068

>>20572355
And her roommate openly talks shit about fans of idols.

>> No.20573071
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20573071

Love Live was seriously a mistake.

>> No.20573131

>>20573052
Even if she does that. I’m pretty sure she’s friends with some of the twitch girls like mouse and pink cat

>> No.20573134

>>20572355
let's pretend this is true. now they just have to invent a cure for the way she talks to everyone like they're a dog or a toddler

>> No.20573167

>>20572355
>I didn't like idols and I thought they were all fake
>joins Hololive anyway
nahone

>> No.20573184

>>20572919
Free money

>> No.20573204

>>20572355
So she hated idols but joined an idol company to be an idol just so she can get money and fame. Got it.

>> No.20573211

>>20572355
Even as someone that never liked idols, you have to be a big retard to think the girls themselves are fake.
It's the industry and culture that are rotten.

>> No.20573220

>>20573029
Nothing short of a drug arrest will make her rethink anything anon.

>> No.20573240

>>20573204
>to be an idol
She has yet to do this

>> No.20573260

>>20572355
Oof, corporate smile.

>> No.20573287

>>20572355
can't wait for the drugs and sextape all over the place.
Bitch literally says anything for cash, both sucks, she and idol concept

>> No.20573299

>>20572626
this

>> No.20573341

>>20572355
JChad's getting good at speaking proper English.

>> No.20573351

lets see if she will dance as an idol or doing completely diff from usual holo talen do, yes hiphop dancing + rap

>> No.20573364

>>20572355
Let me translate that for you:

>Yeah dawgs that idol shit is still hella cringe as fuck, but ya boi really really likes the heaps of cash you cucks send to me. Keep those akas coming! I love mon... I mean I totally love all my ~FRIENDS!~, here have some cheap fake unity appeal you idiots eat up so I can score some goodgirl points before my next inevitable fuckup. PEACE (alright, now on to getting smashed with/by Connur again, hell yeah...)

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>>20572626
>>20573167
>>20573204
That happened before she got in when she become friends with Milkyqueen.

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>all these smart fridges

>> No.20573392

Did she just openly admit that she only joined for money? Is she high on lean again?

>> No.20573424

>>20572626
She'd make more money from being indie at this point.
She is still in Hololive despite constant drama because she likes her genmates and likes being an idol. We fixed her.

>> No.20573439

>I thought all my co-workers were fake
What a bitch, that wouldn't feel nice for them to hear now

>> No.20573442

5%

>> No.20573495

5%

>> No.20573524

If she really respects idols now she should prove it by stopping to associate herself with ironic weebs who hate the industry like those tashh taste retards

>> No.20573542

I'm out of the loop, what happened?
>>20573134
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed that. Did she get in trouble for being to cynical and that's her fake cheerful voice?

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>>20573424

>> No.20573590

>>20573131
I can tolerate the whores. I won't tolerate the faggot that is clearly throwing shade and trash-talking Hololive on stream. At leastSteel Rodent confronted Connor about what he said. So im cool with her.

>> No.20573642

If you are an actual human and not a bot and/or from SEA please respond

>> No.20573646

>>20573364
Let me translate that post for you:

>I am seething at everything Mori does and can't stop coping that she isn't leaving like I promised myself.

>> No.20573669

>>20572626
based

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>>20572355
lmao management had a LOOOOONG talk with her

>> No.20573683

>>20573424
Doubtful, her vtuber avatar is more attractive than she is so her audience won't completely carry over

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20573687

Based Nijisanji deadbeat bird

>> No.20573715

>>20572626
This

>> No.20573736

>>20573642
*cum in you*

>> No.20573772

5%

>> No.20573837

>>20573736
Well, a bot is incapable of sex and everyone from SEA suffers from permament erectile dysfunction so it checks out.

>> No.20573895

>>20573364
lmao accurate enough

>> No.20573909

It's heartening that this thread only has 60 posts after almost 40 minutes. Schizos are reclining.

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20573976

This will be my biggest rrat ever, but what if the reason that Cover has been keeping her as an employee for over a year and paying her for her work is because they're satisfied and support what she does for the company.

>> No.20573988

>>20573364
I read this in the pink-bitch voice. Kek. Good translation, anon.

>> No.20573994

>>20572355
>I'm kind at at
Mori's ESL?

>> No.20574015

You people are addicted to negativity.

>> No.20574022

>>20573976
Shh, don't let schizos hear that.

>> No.20574057

>>20573976
Cover has a REALLY low bar. See Ayame, Shion and Sana.

>> No.20574072

>>20574015
You must be new here

>> No.20574080
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>>20572355
reminds me of this

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>>20573424
>She'd make more money from being indie at this point.

>> No.20574099

>>20574015
Anon, SEAnigs and Kiwifarmers are not a people.

>> No.20574108

>>20572355
>I actually hate idols but they make money so became the thing that I hate
Holy based

>> No.20574132

>>20572626
wtf are you on about, the fags are are on with based Chris. she went to sleep, hopefuly

>> No.20574165

>>20574015
Negativity? I'm usually positive about chuubas, I still like 99% of Hololive. But she has slowly but surely eroded all of my good will. She's a lying, opportunist bitch.

>> No.20574232

>>20574165
So what would chance your mind?

>> No.20574293

>>20574232
At this point pretty much nothing, it would require a complete reset of her personality. I gave her multiple chances, I liked her at some point.

>> No.20574313

>>20572626
>>20573167
>>20573204
>>20573439
>>20574108
Her stance on idols changed way before she even applied to join Hololive. Just letting you know in case you were new, or at least so you can come up with something else.
https://youtu.be/xiwp1xOgdR4?t=1555

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>>20573687
Enna...come home

>> No.20574357

>>20574313
ok mori

>> No.20574361

>>20574313
>watching streams
we don't do that here

>> No.20574373

>>20573052
all of them had a talk with Connor, if they are ok, its over
let it go

>> No.20574400

>>20573976
They like the money yes. What is your point?
They also liked what Rushia until she rocked the boat too hard.

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>>20574400
The point is you're a complete retard that let this board completely rot your mind.

>> No.20574475

>>20574313
of course, mori would never lie

>> No.20574476

>>20574400
>They also liked what Rushia until she rocked the boat too hard.
And you think Mori will do that some point?

>> No.20574490

so she applied to a company to work with a bunch of "fake" people? lmao

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>>20572355
ok "Idol"
how about you start acting like one instead of LARPing about friendship
oh yeah she just defines Idol as something that suits her findom needs

>> No.20574529

Okay seriously where the fuck are all these IPs coming from?

>> No.20574543

>>20574455
Thats your opinion, not an argument

>>20574476
Yes

>> No.20574617

>>20574543
And your argument for Mori betraying hololive is genius?

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>>20573424
>She'd make more money from being indie at this point.

>> No.20574644

>>20574513
>how about you start acting like one
Could Mori actually get away with if she stopped doing rap?

>> No.20574674

>>20572355
moona's performance converted her to idolatry.

>> No.20574689

>>20574475
I mean you can simply just ask Milky Queen. Her chat is slow enough, she'll see your question

>> No.20574725

>>20574617
I did not make that claim

>> No.20574727

>>20574293
you haven't given yourself any chances though. i hope you work on yourself. good luck, life can be hard

>> No.20574748

>>20574373
I was letting it go before. Not anymore after the stunt she pulled.

>> No.20574762

>>20574727
>no u
Thanks

>> No.20574764

>>20574725
Anon you literally said that Mori was going to sell out her genmates like Rushia did.

>> No.20574777

>>20574313
Her main source of income comes from pretending to be an idol, of course she isn't going to speak negatively about them. Are you genuinely retarded?

>> No.20574828

>>20574764
No, I said I think she will do it

>> No.20574845

>>20574513
You are thinking of classic, Showa-era idols.
Modern "Idol" concept is a lot wider than that (thanks, AKB). If https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebisu_Muscats could be a group of idols, surely Mori can pass as an idol with rooms to spare

>> No.20574854

>>20572355
>I thought they were all "fake"
But they literally are fake. If they weren't they wouldn't have to hide the fact they could have romantic relationships.

>> No.20574863

>>20574644
Rap is not the issue here. Her music is completely trash and i hate it so much, but that is not the main issue here, anon.

>> No.20574892

>>20574777
So does this only apply for Mori but no other EN members?

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>>20574828
>No anon I did not say that she will sell out her genmates
>Except I did in fact say that she will sell out her genmates
...Are you sure it's not you that's hitting the lean?

>> No.20574930

>>20574777
Are you? Read again, slowly this time.

>> No.20574946

>>20574329
From someone that actually watches her, you guys would hate her

>> No.20574945

>>20574854
All performers are fake, especially rappers like her. What is the point of bringing up authenticity in the world of entertainment? Its all smoke and mirrors.

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>>20573424
RORU RORU RUMAO

>> No.20574991

>>20572355
wtf, I love calli now

>> No.20574998

>>20574903
Theres a differnce between predicting something and thinking its highly likely to happen

>> No.20575000

>>20574863
So is it that she is hanging out with those TT people? Would it be fine if she moved all that shit to her roommate side and stopped the interactions on her Holo side fine?

>> No.20575016

>>20574854
They aren't *all* fake, though. The efforts are real. The tears and sweats are real. The gratitude towards the fans and the happiness at being loved are real.
Well, not all idols feel that way, but many of them do. Just because they might act now and then does not make them ALL fake

>> No.20575025

>>20574689
Thanks Mori

>> No.20575038

>>20572626
i hate cali so much its unreal

>> No.20575044

>>20574998
that's the same thing you retard.

>> No.20575080

>>20572355
Mori you really are dumb with your words.... don't let people know that you got "converter" Jesas

>> No.20575105

>>20572355
she has had this song and dance multiple times already
she will do something stupid and blame it on idolfags again instead of herself like the dumb womanchild she is

>> No.20575178

>>20575044
Not really, you just think too simplistically to grasp the difference

>> No.20575177

>>20572355
She has done this so many times it almost feels like shes trying to convince herself at this point.

>> No.20575196

>>20575080
>don't let people know that you got "converter"
Why not? If anything her showing that she isn't on anti-idol side like some of her fans seems to be is a good thing because those people stay or they leave.

>> No.20575209

>>20574946
Yeah, I visit her stream 5–7 times because of her beautiful singing voice, and I want to get to know her more. The way she acts is like a Vshojo chuuba. I still remember one of her baking streamswhere she makesa penis cookie and talks about circumcising with some male chuuba in her company. LMAO.

>> No.20575210

>>20573068
I mean, if she’s talking the kinds of idiots who get on here and make rrats over stupid bullshit and abandon all logic and common sense in order to satisfy their own craven ids…then, yeah.

People who watch vtubers don’t necessarily have a good reputation. I mean, there are some fucked up gachi fans.

I mean, I still think “simp loser” by default when I think “idol fan”. I’m just also well-aware that despite being guilty until proven innocent that there’s still a bunch out there who are “one of the good ones.”

>> No.20575249

>>20574892
other EN members haven't shittalked idols before

>> No.20575287

>>20575210
You sound like a redditard

>> No.20575305 [DELETED] 

>>20573542
No. She was an ESL teacher as her day job while rapping. Those are the “scythe swinging lessons” she’s talking about. She’s still using her “teacher voice” when collabing with non-native speakers.

They tell you to speak slowly and clearly as an ESL teacher, and some of my coworkers, including my roommate, had that voice too.

I always hated it and forgot to talk slowly, resulting in shit like me playing hangman with a bunch of seven year olds and picking the word “agglutinative” as a troll because I hate being around kids (I got moved to an older class the next year)

>> No.20575312

>>20575249
But her shit talking idols stopped long before she even got in

>> No.20575345

>>20575196
Because it leaves that doubt in the air that she will revert to her old self the moment something disappointing related to idols happens, if you like idols now just go do your best you don't need to have a "I guess idols are one of the good guys" moment

>> No.20575482

>>20573424
g8b8m8, here is a (You)

>> No.20575503

>>20575000
Maybe it's still better than her using the "Mori" avatar to defend the dude who shit on Hololive and its talents. Heck, I'm even OK with her collab with Vshojo, but her side with C***** is what makes me hate her. Also, hanging out with the ironic weebs TT is just one of many other issues that she needs to fix. The list is too long, so I'm not going to type it.

>> No.20575508

>>20573542
No, she does that voice because she was an English teacher before joining Hololive. Those are the scythe swinging lessons.

They tell you to speak slowly and clearly since you’re teaching kids who don’t know English yet. She just does it poorly.

It’s basically how local news reporters try to hide their accents in America but overdo it and sound artificial and kind of robotic. That’s Calli’s problem.

My boss taught ESL as well for a few years back in the day. It’s why he’s very good at talking to foreigners who are good at reading English but aren’t that comfortable with the listening parts yet. He absolutely doesn’t have that voice, so it’s not an inevitable thing. Just pretty common.

>> No.20575524

>>20575312
because she said so?

>> No.20575628

>>20575210
>normalfagging
>reddit spacing
checks out

>> No.20575630

>>20573683
Yeah, that’s kind of the problem. Her raps are definitely not the best, but they’re still entertaining and I’ll still watch a MV or two.

I am absolutely imagining a pink haired anime reaper woman in my head.

No fucking way can I break that immersion with her roommate. It’s why I don’t listen to music from seiyuus that aren’t in-character songs.

>> No.20575662

>>20575524
Yes? If that's not good enough for you then ask the person who changed her mind about idols. You have no excuse

>> No.20575663

>>20575016
Of course I wasn't saying their skills are fake. They're very competent actors, singers, dancers, and other types of entertainers. The thing I was talking about the idol format coupled with the streamer presentation. Both of those things are often a manufacturer parasocial facade built on a weird contradictory pure image (like being able to talk about consuminh porn and going through rough parts of their lives but can't admit to having boyfriends or can't have streams about certain media without corporate permission).

>> No.20575678

>>20572626
>She is happy
>Her fans are happy
>You get something negative out of this
Your life must suck, twisting every event to see it on a negative light.

>> No.20575718

>>20575662
you're an actual retard. she cant speak negatively about idols because she is an idol herself

>> No.20575756

>>20572626
spbp

>> No.20575817

>>20572626
/thread

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>>20572355
um mori, your idol friend

>> No.20575872

>>20572626
I mean I never cared about idol stuff before either, I guess everyone here is a diehard idol fan.

>> No.20575901

>>20575678
>her fans
How do you know that every single deadbeat is happy? Are you all part of one big hivemind?

>> No.20575903

>>20575662
NTA,but, she says so, yet her behavior speaks otherwise. So no, I'm not convinced. It is like asking a thief if they are robbing you and they say "no," but it is clear that they have your stuff in their hand and are running away.

>> No.20575910

>>20575678
>she is happy
I don't know man, her other album speaks for itself.

>> No.20575915

>>20574998
You just said the same thing you fucking mongrel

>> No.20575978

>>20572355
I used to hate you guys, but after my career wasn't taking off and had to resort to and settle for this job, I like you guys now. My standards were too high, now my standards are lower and you're good enough.

>> No.20575986

>>20575910
If you listened the whole album by the end of it had turned into more positive and acceptence side than negative.

>> No.20576029

>>20575978
Another good translation.

>> No.20576096

>>20575901
>m-muh Devil's proof
sure

>> No.20576126

>>20572355
kill yourself already fake ungrateful lean-guzzling pretentious retard wigger

>> No.20576131

>>20575903
>yet her behavior speaks otherwise
How? Has she ever talked shit about idols after meeting Milky or done anything to make you think that she still hates idols?

>> No.20576152

>>20573976
Mori is basically the lyrics writer for EN songs. Her talent is very important for an idol company, doing it in-house is much better because it saves potential drama like they had with that Mizuryu retard.

>> No.20576156

>>20575901
they'd stop being a deadbeat.
Unless we're talking stockholm syndrome or something

the board just hates her a lot for some reason
outside of it, normies still love her
It's why she's still doing fine regardless of what /vt/ tries to latch on to to get her to graduate.

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>> No.20576182

>>20575978
>>20576029
So what would take you to chance your belief on Mori?

>> No.20576288

>>20576182
shave head on stream

>> No.20576307

>>20572626
Exactly.

>> No.20576411

>>20576096
>>20576156
>the moment a deadbeat criticises moris actions they stop being a deadbeat
So to be a true deadbeat you have to live in one big hugbox? Top kek

>> No.20576446

I'm so glad no one outside /vt/ is this autistic about hating cali.
I'll just watch the schizos fume as her numbers go up more and more.

>> No.20576474

>>20572626
based

>> No.20576484

>>20576411
Reading comprehension doko?
Unless you're someone who's dumb enough to believe you can't criticize your oshi without being happy with her regardless.

>> No.20576487

>>20576411
Absolutely not but why would they not be in a good mood right? Mori has calmed down since February.

>> No.20576567

>>20576446
>You're schizo and autistic if you dislike something!

>> No.20576584

>>20575756
>>20575817
>>20576307
>>20576474
Are you samefagging or just blind? This was proven wrong already
>>20574313

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I can fix her

>> No.20576620

>>20576567
here's your (You)
now go touch grass

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>>20575209
Thank you for the recommendation. I'll check her out

>> No.20576662

>>20576484
I'll be happy with Mori when she stops associating with these faggots from TT.
Yes I've been unhappy with her actions over the past few months.
Yes I'll still be a deadbeat for as long as I say I am.

>> No.20576685

>>20576584
Women never lie.

>> No.20576705

>>20576584
>s-she said so though!
>just believe me bros she isn't lying because... she just isn't okay?

>> No.20576717

>>20575855
Where do you think she first formed her opinion?

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>>20576685

>> No.20576771

>>20576288
This, plus all cessation of roommate activities and out of company collabs. People like Noel have proven they can handle doing roommate stuff on the side without shitting on the company while Mori has proven the opposite.

>> No.20576775

>>20576659
I'd probably hate Enna if I knew her irl (would suck her little chinese toes tho) but she's funny to watch on streams

>> No.20576784

>>20576662
>I'll be happy with Mori when she stops associating with these faggots from TT
Like as a whole or just as Mori Calliope?

>> No.20576815

>>20576771
the outside company collabs aren’t to bad she doesn’t go full lean schizo during them so far

>> No.20576870

>>20576662
Wouldn't the stockholme syndrome comment be true in your case then? Why are you still a deadbeat?
I know I'm contradicting myself by being in 4chan of all places, but what keeps you motivated on being a deadbeat if you've only been unhappy with what she's done for the past months straight?

>> No.20576882

>>20576775
Funny women are rare and I cherish them

>> No.20576910

>>20575986
That's called stages of grief.
She went through them to cope with working at a job she hates.

>> No.20576928

>>20576685
That's all they do

>> No.20576930
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>>20572626
Yes.

>> No.20576941

>>20572355
they're still fake you roastie
bottom barrel of EN being a virtuous hoe yet again

>> No.20577060

>>20576784
I don't really understand the question
>>20576870
Because I stay loyal to her and I can still enjoy her streams, but every time she does something I dislike my faith is gradually tested. I'm sure at one point it will break, but it could also heal.

>> No.20577080

>>20576815
Nope. Nothing. No TT, no Vshojo, no indies. Fucking nothing. She can have her collab privileges back when she earns them.

>> No.20577136

>>20577080
At that point she’d probably complain how strict cover is and most likely graduate.
so a win?

>> No.20577227

>>20577060
>I don't really understand the question
What I mean is that her stopping interacting with them as Mori Calliope while still doing it as her roommate.

>> No.20577234

>>20577136
One way or another, yes. Either she proves capable of change or she gtfos.

>> No.20577264

>>20577227
I don't care what she does in her private life.

>> No.20577469

>>20577060
Then honestly I respect that anon.

Honestly, when people talk in broad strokes. they might technically fit you in, but you shouldn't compare yourself to some of the fine specimen in this thread.
When someone starts throwing around words like anti, hater, schizo, etc. Not saying your the same anon, but they're obviously not refering to people like you.

>> No.20577540

>>20572626
I hate calliope so much

>> No.20577620
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Guys, I really, truly despise Mori. I absolutely hate her. I don't bring it up often because my oshi believes in unity, but I cannot stand the bitch, I can't stand her streaming, who she is, how she acts, how she treats others... I just hate her.
But even then...
That doesn't mean you have to doubt EVERY FUCKING THING SHE DOES.
It's good to be skeptical to a degree, you don't have to be one of those retards sucking holos off and believing whatever bullshit they feed you, but it's equally retarded to assume everything they say is a fucking lie all the time, first of all because that's equally unlikely and illogical, but also because at that point you're just wasting your time and energy seething about shit that doesn't matter. About a fucking hobby.

>> No.20577714

>>20577060
>but every time she does something I dislike my faith is gradually tested
Be honest, for how long has she been your oshi? Because I hit that breaking point months ago, and I've been following her since debut.

>> No.20577727

milky should've taken moris place

>> No.20577792

>>20577620
>I totally hate her too, guys! We should uncritically let her do whatever we want though, cause if we don't we're all schitzos right?
Yeah, no. Her track record is all I need to know.

>> No.20577814

>>20577080
>no indies
When has she ever collabed with indies that aren't her IRL friends?

>> No.20577829

>>20577714
What was it for you if I may ask?

>> No.20577857

>>20577714
same, I was a day one deadbeat but stopped around when she did that unarchived karaoke iirc

>> No.20577925

>>20577792
But how is making two threads about tweet making things any better? What do you think it is gonna do?

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>>20577792
I'm specifically not telling to "uncritically ler her do whatever", I'm just saying to not think every little fucking thing is some manipulative lie. There's a point where reasonable doubt and criticism genuinely just becomes seething.

>> No.20577988

>>20577829
Unironically the start of her Jojo obsession. I've been a fan of Jojo for years.
It was a gradual process and that was the breaking point. Turns out I was right, since the C*nnor shit was a direct consequence.

>> No.20577991

>>20577940
Where do you think you are, you fucking newfag?

>> No.20578037

>>20577620
You should then understand why people are saying that she's lying. It's not because they inherently doubt chuubas, it's because they doubt Mori based on her past actions.

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>>20572355

>> No.20578077

>>20577620
Proven by action, not by word. Until she stops being a bitch and stopsinfluencing my Oshi with her wigger behavior, my opinion of her won't change. She has her chance as Mori in season 2, and she just has to throw it all away in favor of someone who throws shade on her company and co-worker. Now people have every right to doubt her.

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>>20577620
you've sure changed your attitude from 2 months ago

>> No.20578123

>have rich parents
>stumble onto easy fame and money
>hire somebody to music for you
>hire somebody to mix and edit the music for you
>write lyrics about how hard you worked to get to where you are

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>>20577620
not sure what your oshi kiara would think about you making threads like this anyway

>> No.20578160

>>20572355
>"fake"
Like her rap persona?

>> No.20578183

>>20578080
>>20578142
Wait what the fuck only one of those was me.

>> No.20578195

>>20577988
>It was a gradual process
So what was start of that? Because before that she was doing so well that hate for her on /vt/ was all time low for months.

>> No.20578282

>>20578123
>have rich parents
Where does this rrat come from? It is her grandparents that were wealthy but never her parents.

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>>20572355
Just about a 100 more to go. You guys can do it!

>> No.20578360

>>20578305
Sometimes I wonder if she does it intentionally.

>> No.20578365

>>20578077
>stopsinfluencing my Oshi with her wigger behavior
Who is your oshi?

>> No.20578367

If all your rrats are true then just wait until she's forced to wear the idol outfit, all that humiliation is sure to give you a sadistic boner right? I almost get hard thinking about it and I'm not even an anti

>> No.20578416

>>20578195
The start? I can't really pinpoint that, but if I had to choose it would probably be that infamous Clubhouse 51 collab with Kiara. Though some other things irritated me even before that.

>> No.20578440

>>20575855
Are she and milky actually still friends?

>> No.20578519

Based "day 1 deadbeats".
Mind if you show your expired memberships to the class?

>> No.20578568

>>20578416
But did you enjoy her "season 2" If your irrations are from that long ago?

>> No.20578573

>>20578519
No.

>> No.20578593

>>20572355
A month ago she was tweeting how the whole handling of the rushia situation made her sick to the stomach. Now all of a sudden she loves the heckin' idols?
Given that the rushia situation was a product of idol culture, that's a pretty quick turnaround on her own beliefs.

>> No.20578600

>>20573424
We did? Wow. I finally feel like I accomplished something.

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>>20578519
sure

>> No.20578614

>>20578568
I took some distance during the shitshow after the failed Cuphead collab, but she was starting to win me back. For some reason, she feels really different now.

>> No.20578730

>>20572355
okay ms. i stole my friend's dream job accidentally just because i can

>> No.20578759

>>20578730
tfw they chose Sana over Milky

>> No.20578760

>>20578593
But what if she mean Russia and Ukraine. Not the Rushia situation? Kek

>> No.20578775

>>20578568
I liked the start of season 2 Mori. Felt like she finally accept being Mori, finally realized this is her best path to be an artist, was ready to go all in.

>> No.20578804

>>20578614
>For some reason, she feels really different now
She does? I have watched her ER streams and she seems to be same way before the meltdown to me. What do you think is a difference?

>> No.20578864

>>20578804
I wouldn't say there's a "before/after". Just a gradual shift that you can only see the full extent of once you take a step back and look at the whole picture.

>> No.20578882

I legitimately don't see the problem, a lot of people have the same feeling even normies, when you just hear of Idols from the drama and crimes you will obviously have a negative view, but once you get closer you learn of the good side.

>> No.20578979

Not like she was wrong in the first place, idolshit culture is embarrassing, just look at how mentally ill 90 percent of this board is

>> No.20579037

>>20572355
mori did the equivalent of: i didn't like niggers until i made a black friend and now i have a very realistic chance of getting a beat down if i keep using the n word around him

>> No.20579103

>>20575503
Holy shit. I honestly didn't think people like you were real and just thought it was all trolling. You literally need to get a hobby outside consuming media, its rotting your brain.

>> No.20579195

>>20572626
this

>> No.20579210

We won idolbros

>> No.20579282

>>20572355
Does this mean she's going to be more "real" too and stop pretending she knows anything about "the streets"? Everytime she does it just reminds me of that one scene from The Office.

>> No.20579905

>>20578593
It's not that complicated.
When you get to be on stage and showered by the attention (and most importantly, money) of thousands of people, that's the "good" idol culture, easy to like and happy yay's all around.
But those same people would start voicing expectations and express disapproval of certain behaviors, that's the "bad" part of idol culture (le heckin toxic entitled chuds can't tell me strong independent wahmin what to do, that's oppression!!).
Basic female behavior (especially pronounced in white western women), no responsibility, everything is always somebody else's fault, and who are you to tell them they can't have their cake and not eat it, too?
Mori sweet talks a good game about idols when it suits her (for example farming sympathy on a big event) and certainly likes one aspect of idols, namely the cuck culture of simps sending endless waves of money away for free to "support" their idols, but when it comes to upholding the other end of the bargin (actually behaving like an idol), it's all an odious restrictive chore again and she vents and complains like a bitch

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>>20579905
>and she vents
sus

>> No.20580096

>>20579282
She's fake as shit anyway and would get folded over in two seconds flat if she tried to step in to any actual tough streets. Why do you think she bolted over to Japan, the only place in the world that's even meeker and still thinks this basic whitegirl wine aunt bitch is in any way "kakkoi"

>> No.20580153

>>20572355
watch her shittalk hololive on her other channel

>> No.20580206

>>20579282
>>20580096
When has she even done that though. She admited that she isn't some gangsta and doesn't think herself like that.

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>>20572829

>> No.20580324

>>20580206
Most recently in todays Myth show for HoloExpo
can't expect you to watch streams tho

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>>20572626
based

>> No.20580510

>>20574644
many korean idols are exclusively trained in rapping and the influence is shifting over to jpop aswell.

>> No.20580560

>>20572355
Seeing antis being BTFO brings me schadenfreude the likes of which man was not meant to know.

>> No.20580636

>>20580560
>antis so upset they made two threads dedicated to this one tweet.
Lol
Lmao

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>>20575872
i literally couldn't care less about idolshit and prefer when it's gone, but this is about basic manners and morality. you hate something, you join it because it's profitable, you say that you no longer hate it because you're actively profiting from the thing you hate.

>> No.20580761

>>20580324
Anonchama... don't tell me you're confusing "the streets" with just meeting someone outside in the streets

>> No.20580814

>>20580666
NTA but it could be possible for someone to enjoy it and not only for the money, not saying it's not a factor.

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>>20580814
anon, she literally said that she hated idols prior to joining hololive.
it's not about her enjoying it despite the money, it's about her NOT enjoying it, BUT enjoying the money.

>> No.20581024

>>20580981
Why are moralfags like this?

>> No.20581070

>>20580666
>>20580981
Are you going to keep burying your head in the sand?
>>20574313

>> No.20581125

>>20572355
This sounds fake and hypocrite coming from her

>> No.20581342

>>20581070
Keep coping, schizo

>> No.20581368

>>20581342
That's all you can do, yes.

>> No.20581525

>>20581070
"you say that you no longer hate it because you're actively profiting from the thing you hate."
fits perfectly. she wouldn't fear to say a controversial opinion, right?

>> No.20581799

>>20581525
It doesn't. If she had said that she hated idols while in Hololive and then changed her mind later, then it would. However, she stopped hating idols after meeting Milky, which happened a long time before she even thought about applying.

>> No.20581832

>>20581368
>no u
You'd figure a wigger fan would come up with a better diss

>> No.20581939

>>20572355
idols are shit but some vtubers like subaru somehow made it watchable and upgrade the culture.

>> No.20581967

>>20581832
>>20581342

>> No.20581983

>>20572355
graduate whori

>> No.20582961

>>20574644
I like her music, but I can't stand her "voice" on Stream.
Feels way too patronizing, and not in a "mommy" way, more like an Elementary school teacher way.
And well, she still hasn't apologized for lying about the supposed "private apology" or for defending someone that publicly called her friends "talentless".

>> No.20583014

>>20576182
on-stream apology for her more recent fuckups.
which she still hasn't done btw.
Until then, anything she says will not be taken seriously

>> No.20583135

>>20573424
She's still in Hololive because of her ego
And nobody would really care about her if wasn't for the anime model

>> No.20583144

I'm ashamed I used to like Calli.

>> No.20583329

>>20573424
>she likes her genmates

Funniest shit I've read all day

>> No.20583434

I hope Mori and deadbeats realise this is why she attracts so much hate. She came into a hobby/company feeling she was above it and looking down at the people that built it as fake.

Even if she has had her damascene conversion people arent going to forget what a cunt she and her fans were

>> No.20583468

>>20583434
>Coping ITT.
>Rent-free ITT

>> No.20583484

>>20572626
>>anyway hear my talk about my latest rap album on an all male podcast hehe
Seethe

>> No.20583539

Imagine the meltdown tommorow.

These antis are already tearing up like the shitters they are.

>> No.20583547

>>20580560
its because this one tweet validates their criticism

>> No.20583609

>>20583547
Anon, this just proves how new you people are. She already said the exact statement earlier as Mori.

In fact, that was the first time I was introduced to Milky.

>> No.20583639

Jesus christ Mori why would you fucking tweet that, are you unironically autistic?
Even as a dedicated mori anti I'm baffled she felt that this tweet paints her in a good light, I guess all of last year she still felt the idol shit was cringe but was just pretending huh.
Just yesterday I posted >>20496967

>Mori would be tweeting about how vtubers are catering to pedophiles if she wasn't in the process of having her fucking career saved by that same industry.
>To some extent you can argue most vtubers dont really like their fans, but how could a self respecting person be Mori fan when it's obvious the kind of vitriol she would spew towards fans of the medium if she wasn't in it.

And here she comes today basically admiting it herself.
Thanks Mori, you make it real easy to be an anti when you do half the job for me

>> No.20583658

>Reiterates what she said almost a two years ago.

>ShEs FaKe, GuYs

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>make over $2 million per year
>pretend to be poor
>pretend to have "wise words" for people because you are an anime girl
>spend superchat money on narcotics

>> No.20583700

>>20572626
>>20572355
>I thought they were all fake
You mean like your whole personality, before and after your "idol revelation"?

>> No.20583761

>>20583700
>wears her heart out the most amongst her gen
>ShE's FaKe

>> No.20583768

>>20578142
People need to randomize their filenames

>> No.20583791

>>20583639
>Mori would be tweeting about how vtubers are catering to pedophiles
But if this was true wouldn't her tweets before hololive somehow that she is SJW?

>> No.20583801

>>20583144
same

>> No.20583802

>>20578305
So close...

>> No.20583845

>>20583688
>pretend to be poor
When has she pretend to be poor?

>> No.20583854

>>20583688
*30% of 2 million before taxes

>> No.20583951

>>20572626
Based

>> No.20583984

>>20583468
not really. Im just irritated by assholes like Mori and her fans. Perfectly normal response.

>> No.20584019

>>20583984
>t. anti
Keep on cryin. 2M is coming.

>> No.20584027

>>20572355
>Before joining Hololive, I didn't like idols.
THEN WHY THE FUCK DID SHE JOIN INTO SOMETHING SHE DIDN'T LIKE???
fucking hypocrite lol

>> No.20584090

>>20583791
>But if this was true wouldn't her tweets before hololive somehow that she is SJW?
She doesnt have a personality. She just mimics those around her

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>>20572626
fucking this, anyone who doesn't get this is a lost cause

>> No.20584192

>>20584019
>>t. anti
nothing wrong with being an anti to a cunt

>> No.20584222

>>20584192
>t. cunt

>> No.20584235

>>20584090
That's like every female dude

>> No.20584260

>>20572355
>wigger
all opinions discarded

>> No.20584286

>>20584222
kek seethe harder

>> No.20584315

>>20583854
yeah bullshit

>> No.20584325

>>20578282
doxxed adress + income distribution map of a major american city = top 1%
even if her parents aren't millionaires and the "mansion" is by their grandparents not having to pay rent/debt on a mortgage is some SERIOUS financial advantages, especially in the US where basic commodities like gas, electricity and water are cheaper than in other places like Europe

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>>20584286
>I'm not seething, you're seething.
I'm not the one who's letting some anime girl live in his mind rent-free.

>> No.20584388

>>20574400
Why are Muslims so fucking inbred?

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>>20584315
Here's what an actual multimillionare looks like

>> No.20584447

>>20584027
She applied as a joke not expecting to get in because her friend suggested it. This is very well known.

>> No.20584611

Why do people hate Mori again? Is she like the Nyanners of Hololive?

>> No.20584655

>>20584395
You claim she's paying 70% of her income to taxes, based on absolutely no evidence, just some shit you pulled out of your ass. Absolute horseshit. She is not paying 70% taxes.

>> No.20584735

>>20584447
>applied as a joke
i fucking hate women...

>> No.20584750

>>20584334
shes not an anime girl though. Shes some texas white trash ethot. She just happens to have an anime avatar

>> No.20584773

>>20584325
I know that but that doxx is from time when she was already working for applebees so she can get in Japan and after her mother had gotten with her step-dad.

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>>20573071
hey fuck you pal

>> No.20584843

>>20572626
You sisters are the type to hear a compliment and take it as pity aren't you?

>> No.20584870

>>20572355
Her friends are what she likes and now that theyve gone up on that stage, her opinions of idols NEED to change. Otherwise she would be directly shitting on her them with those TT quotes. Her hatred for idols would without question be aimed at her friends now that they are "true" idols, having preformed on a stage for thousands.
This is merely damage control. She still hates idols deep down and with this is again proven to just be a fake, fortune hungry alcoholic who will, by her actions and not her empty words, continue to cause strife within Hololive.

>>20583434
And like this anon says. Entering a hobby with the type of attitude where, without knowing anything about the proprietors of said hobby and their fans, throw shade and doubt on all that they are and have worked towards is just more evidence of her vile personality. Especially when she comes from a field that shares a massive amount of the same problems as Idol groups would have, with the likes of Biggie and Tupacs fan bases hating on each other, ending in the death of both rappers and possibly some fans. Fanboying for fake rappers like drake, an adopted canadian TV star. And in her own words, rappers like yung lean and the sad boys abusing the menhera nature of people with their style and message. I cannot accept or embolden a disgusting person like Mori. The only reason anyone does is because a few rich cucks got thankies from a poor drunken washout and are enamored for life.

In short, FUCK MORI.

>> No.20584878

>>20584750
>ethot
She is not even close to ethot.

>> No.20584909

>>20584655
I'm claiming she's giving her money to her company

>> No.20585015

>>20584611
>she talks to men
>she applied as a joke
>anons hate rap and black people
>she's EN
>she's JSL
Not to mention the rrats sisters make up every day.

>> No.20585053

>>20584447
and yet she willingly went through the entire process of becoming a Hololive vtuber

>> No.20585152

>>20578282
from individual snippets of her family life she told, anons have pieced together a picture
>Nannies
>Private school
>Ballet
>Golf camp
>Visited Jamaica, Ireland. Italy
>Private college
>Arts major
etc.
which, all put together, point to a background that is, while maybe not totally millionaire trust fund rich kid level, certainly at least comfortable upper middle class bougie. Whether that's due to her parents or grandparents is rather immaterial in the grand scheme of things (which is that she hasn't really suffered materially in her past - note how all her "woe is me" past stories don't revolve around lacking money but more about social stuff, boo hoo I wuz bullied theater kid stuff)
Sure, she was "slumming it" for a while in Japan (another thing you need some financial backing for, actual poor people can't really hop continents to live in another hcol country just to "~follow their passions~") before Hololive, but that was more by choice than necessity, as she has fallbacks to go back to when that "artist thing doesn't work out"

>> No.20585207

>>20584870
>Her friends are what she likes
So what you are saying is that Mori stays on hololive because of her friends at this point?

>> No.20585242

Vaguely related, does anyone have the fuckhuge Mori psychoanalysis effortpost about like "wanting to win while constantly Being Yourself"?

>> No.20585249

>>20585015
>>she talks to men
but so does my oshi
>>she applied as a joke
doesnt bother me
>>anons hate rap and black people
just wiggers
>>she's EN
but I dont Gura
>>she's JSL
but Idont hate Anya

Could it be she is just an asshole

>> No.20585259

>>20584334
She thinks and cares about her "haters" more than about her cucked fans who fund her prominence, which she takes for granted.

So in the rankings of who's letting who live "rent-free", cuckbraps have the least standing

>> No.20585341

>>20585152
>which is that she hasn't really suffered materially in her past - note how all her "woe is me" past stories don't revolve around lacking money but more about social stuff, boo hoo I wuz bullied theater kid stuff
So why do people are mad at her if she has never even claimed to be poor?

>> No.20585345

>>20578305
And there you go! Over 300 replies over a tweet. Mori has all of you retards wrapped around her finger

>> No.20585346

>>20585259
Anon? Are you alright? I could care less because my investment is always to get Music from her. No more, no less. So long as I get music and I get entertained, I'm fine.

>C-cope!
And you're also entertaining me too with the Pro-Mental Gymnastics you're doing :D

>> No.20585439

>>20585207
Its one of the major reasons yes. Graduating would be a huge blow to the unity of them all and since she finds it hard to make friends, especially real friends, she will not abandon them. Which is why she clings to TT despite the obvious issues that she is blind to. Even if her presence is not good for the group long term. Im sure she thinks her self integral to the rest of her friends success and happiness.

>> No.20585447

>>20585345
Not even new information in this tweet. That's what makes it laughable. That all this seethe is coming from either Newfags who don't know, or worse, threadreaders.

>> No.20585458

>>20585346
If you actually like her "music", you're certainly not alright. My condolences for your terminal shit taste

>> No.20585496

>>20585458
200 points on the quotation marks. Nice pivot there, You're really a pro-mental gymnast.

>> No.20585540

>>20585496
continue seething and dilating

>> No.20585580

>>20585540
+ points for the inclusion of the "dilate" term, certainly peak 4chan humor.

>> No.20585929

>>20584655
Anon said before taxes

>> No.20585978

>>20572626
brapbeats cannot refute this

>> No.20586012
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20586012

Idols have always been fake as fuck and you're an idot if you think all of Hololive aren't still 3dpd. Women are still women regardless of what model they hide behind, and by now you should realize that there is zero reason you'd think they were different from from any twitch streamer if they had no anime avatar.
>she's pretending to love idols
So she's an idol being fake. Wow she was right. Good job anon.
Not only were you newfags stupid enough to give this many replies to a tweet thread. It was a tweet that I'm sure she knew would piss you off because she's /here/.
No amount of copium or spamming deadcucks is gonna get rid of her now. It's fucking over sisters.

>> No.20586064

>>20572899
>>20572927
>>20580278
Damn you nijiniggers are fragile and retarded.

>> No.20586690

>>20572626
DELETE THIS POST
NOW

>> No.20586735

>>20574165
>>20574293
Literally me. I've had the same sentiments for the longest time. I was neutral for a whole year after Mori's 5% yab. I gave her a whole year to change, but she didn't. Instead she yabs again by shitting on idol fans.

>> No.20586875

>>20574313
>Her stance on idols changed way before she even applied to join Hololive
By milkyqueen right?
Then why does the tweet say "Before joining Holo, I didn't like idols"

>> No.20586934

>>20583144
same

>> No.20586999

>>20579905
Based

>> No.20587008

>>20586875
Because she typed it incorrect by accident, she really did like idols before joining hololive.

>> No.20587141

>>20586875
>hate idols
>meets milkyqueen
>doesn't hate idols anymore
>joins hololive
That's pretty much the timeline, dunno what you find weird about that statement

>> No.20587406

>>20587141
Because he knows english.
Either Mori fucked up now, or she fucked up (and lied) before.

>> No.20587734

>>20587406
Nah, both of you are ESL. Take some classes and come back later.

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