/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>45,275: Marine (Hololive)
>43,295: Shion (Hololive)
>26,965: Kiara (Hololive)
>26,513: VSPO (VSPO)
>21,850: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,540: Miko (Hololive)
>20,239: Botan (Hololive)
>19,110: Hal (Neo Porte)
>16,349: Suisei (Hololive)
>15,616: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,565: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>14,997: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,054: Mio (Hololive)
>12,867: Haachama (Hololive)
>12,643: Subaru (Hololive)
>11,553: Lui (Hololive)
>11,083: Mayuzumi (Nijisanji)
>10,574: Nose (VSPO)
>10,098: Gatchman (Indie)

>>20433655
>26,965: Kiara (Hololive)
>26,513: VSPO (VSPO)
Recount. I demand a recount. It was their turn.

Reminder that Vox is carrying ALL of Nijisanji on his back right now. There's no one even close to him when it comes to bringing money to the company.

Yesterday's superchats

>>20434214
March superchats so far
>Vox - $99,785 (+$2,107)
>Koyori - $83,959 (+$1,666)
>Nene - $80,087 (+$197)
>Leos - $65,937 (+$121)
>Miko - $65,626 (+$971)
>Chloe - $61,232 (+$5,521)
>Akina - $49,040 (+$112)
>Luca - $43,766 (+$0)
>Shu - $41,669 (+$0)
>Kronii - $39,365 (+$1,386)
>Kana - $35,911 (+$0)
>Laplus - $34,918 (+$206)
>kson - $33,745 (+$2,101)
>Iroha - $32,759 (+$0)
>Lamy - $32,548 (+$1,252)

>>20434264
Jesus Christ Vox

>>20433243
She has to be the Myth with the lowerst % of female viewers right? I can't see anyone lower than that

>>20434062
>muh SCs

>>20434264
>>Vox - $99,785 (+$2,107)
wild

Gura's lack of streaming might also hurting her channel's performance, in March half of her public appearance are collabs on other people's channel, for her channel, she almost equal to not streaming/updating.

>>20433655

>>20434307
Do females even like Mori?

>>20434383
Perhaps, what I can say for sure though is this 'game' is arse to watch, so it'll rightfully get shit CCV.

>>20434307
Anon...we have no other girls demographic instead of Moona and the Hololive official channel. Moona has lower female % than Gura, same for JP official channel.

>>20434488
the game is decent and give nice moments. But gura is to slow to follow multiple tasks.
>>20434383
i agree she needs more collabs on her channel or at least making multi pov, but right now collabs are a rarity outside the full myth collab and the uno one.
all council would rather revive playing a game they started a month ago than playing MC again with friends.

>>20434383
Its seriously just a very shitty debuff game. No need to dig into 1000 excuses, it's now the exact time slot she'd usually have for non daylight saving viewers and she did not incline in viewership, for example.
If Gura is your oshi and you're a numberfag, you need to swallow the bitter pill that she will always go back to kusoge debuff games because shes barely a gamer and honestly has no fucking idea how to play most video games.

>>20434383
Natural recline. The honeymoon period for Holos is over, people getting bored and newer and better Vtubers popping up.

I'm thankful Riku knows the Vtuber landscape and is constantly keeping up hype and interest within the Nijisanji fanbase by pumping out debuts and 3DLives almost every week compared to Holos having months of lull and zero content

>>20434778

meds

https://youtu.be/TMDkR0_8MiY
>around 6.2k viewers watching Ema and the other girls playing minecraft
VSPOcraft is strong

>>20434471
Yes, in a "YAAASS KWEEN" sort of way

>>20434427
>muscle marine
Ill take it

>>20434383
Nah this is par for the course. Gura game streams seldom broke 15k.
Gura really shines in variety/karaoke streams, but unfortunately she's anti-numberfag

>>20434108
Fun (?) fact, Vox has done exactly one mengen in however many months he's had membership open for now

>>20434471
>>20434932
Unironically, plenty of holomen like her.

>>20434834
They need to go past 7k to be NijiEN females, 10k to be worth anything in this thread.

>>20435146
I mean, from SC standpoint, doing mengen wouldn't be as profitable than ASMR, or any other kind of pandering stream.

>>20435136
Anon most of her game streams do break 15k, come on. Seldom is not the right word for it at all.

Lamy might hit 10k soon

>>20435146
thereis no pint on mmeber streams when mostof his viewes dontundertsand him or he can talk with them.

>>20435294
Yeah maybe "seldom' is not the right word, you're right anon.

>>20434383
The gold for the day went to Marine who streams like twice a month.

>>20435366

>>20435366
This but with proper grammar

>>20435261
>nijien females
>7k
? meds

>>20435457
he is combining all the views

Elden Ring schizo kinda validated.

Elden Ring has allowed Botan and Ina to outright beat Peko and Gura (both playing debuff games sure) in daily tallys.

>>20435457

I think he means ccv combined from all streams. But VSPO can get pass that pretty easily these days

>>20435146
>Membership announcement vid dated Jan 23rd
Too early to tell if it'd be a monthly thing, I'd guess not tho.

>>20435513
Didn't Botan hit like 40k with VS?

>>20435513
Botan got higher numbers with Vampire Survivors and Ina got around the same numbers as she gets with Elden Ring.

>>20435513
ina has no overlaps in her timeslot

>>20435513
Except he expected it to buff Nijis to the moon to end up with whatever Kuzuha has

wamy 10k

>>20435513
Not really, they said it'd be some super mega buff game on release, and that Niji etc etc etc.
Then they got 1-2 BTFO by Fromsoft changing their perms and it being a solid long-term streaming game (but not a super big spike buff).

>>20435932
Under the concept that they would be the only youtube streamers playing it. I do think it would have buffed them, in that scenario, but so far only one Niji EN has even bothered playing it and it was one of the male shitters.

>>20435513
Nah, he was saying it would shoot NijiEN past HoloEN and Vox would be streaming it to 40k viewers. Turns out it has been a much bigger consistent buff game for HoloEN while NijiEN has barely touched it. I think only Luca has played it and it was actually a massive debuff for him. Vox won't even entertain the thought of playing it because he knows his audience wouldn't watch it.

>>20435366
A-anon? You ogey?

>>20435366
do you have someone with you? Tell them to call an ambulance

Vspo girls continues to dominate Nijisanji at these hours.
I think the list somewhat reflects the current hierarchy of the vtubing world.
Hololive > Vspo = Nijisanji Male > Nijisanji Female > Other Groups

>>20435513
>Elden Ring has sold 12M copies (1M in Japan)

for comparison:
>Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
>2 million units in less than 10 days
>3.8 million units in 3 months
>5+ million after 16 months

I wonder if Sekiro will be a buff game for Gura.

>>20435366
Allow me to translate
"There is no point of member streams when most of his viewers don't understand him" (no need for that extra bit, the lack of understanding covers it).

>>20433655

>>20436226
blue women strong

>>20436236
depends on how good she is. the game is more streamlined so will be easier to not get filtered. The first wall will be the fat dude before butterfly.
the last one from pekora with the devine dragon got good vod numbers..

Ema's viewer retention is crazily awesome. It just keeps on getting better as the time goes on.

>>20435457
>>20435495
>>20435541
I was heading off the kind of post that shitposters like >>20436226 normally try to make because all it does is bring shitty timeloops that are even worse that Pekora vs Gura. No one here really gives a damn about 5k streamers unless they're doing something really abnormal, and VSPO having more than 5k CCVis fairly common an occurrence.

>>20436382
Mizuryu...

>>20436382
what's mizuryu kei doing these days anyway?

>>20436430
What's your alternative then?
Talk about how Hololive is dominating everyone again? I think it's better to give spotlight to smaller groups like Vspo and NijiEN males especially at these hours when Holos are usually uncontestable.

chumbies....... how do we cope now?

>>20436300
Thank you

>>20433655

>>20433655
>>20433655

>>20436236
>I wonder if Sekiro will be a buff game for Gura.
Clearly not. I've been watching Gura since the start and I call bullshit on her claim that she's good at Sekiro. Most likely she successfully parried a few trash mobs and decided this is it. Bosses will require her to actually use her brain more than just that.

And even fucking Pekora pulled some real tragic (for Pekora) numbers on the game so Gura can best hope for neutral numbers. Should at least be higher than DMC4.

>>20436226
Nah. Niji males are still ahead of Vspo.

>>20433655

>>20436699
>fat tits + thick hips and thighs
>stick arms
Why is Asanagi like this

>>20436737
Yep, I very much doubt she's any good at the game. I'm open to be surprised, but I highly doubt it.

>>20436737
To be fair, Sekiro is way easier than any other From game. Some would argue that ER is even easier, but you need From game experience to really broke ER, as opposed to the fairly linear Sekiro.

>>20437120
Even Fubuki was flipping her shit at some boss fights and she's orders of magnitude better at games than Gura, and even amazing at rhythm games herself. Realistically I hope she doesn't try Sekiro at all, it will just be another embarrassment as some boss (probably Genichiro) filters her ass and she acts pissy for 2 hours then never plays it again.

>>20435513
this is more like a game carrying a chuuba

>>20436236
Famitsu numbers thread are debating that 1M sales kek.

>>20433655

>>20437265
Sekiro is closer to rhythm game than Elden Ring tho.

I don't mind VSPO anon's spam because to me its pretty much the same shit NijiEN fags pull with
>Selen is getting a lot of 3ks recently!

Except VSPO anon mostly shits on Niji because its a midget number competition, so its just deserts.

>>20433655
>>20433655

>>20437279
Tell that to Luca anon.

>>20437402
Okay, but all that means is that she'll be better at it than Elden Ring. She was abysmal at Elden Ring. She might just be bad at Sekiro.

Marine horny poster should get the rope.

>>20437535
no you
*cums on you*

>>20437265
she willdo fine, soulsfags just like to exagerate the dificulty of sekiro. Skiro since it odesnt have stats is also less punishing when you miss a defelct timing.

>>20434264
>green whore exists
>man whore enters
only whores can rule this chart

>>20437402
Elden Ring isn't that hard. Part of the reason she is so bad at it is because of its open world nature. She is scatter brained and can't focus at all on what to do and keeps getting distracted. Just look at IRyS' play through. She is bad at the game too but instead of being scatter brained, she has tunnel vision and this is helping her out and she just keeps pushing forward due to it.

Gura will do much better with the much more linear Sekiro.

>>20437500
Yes, the possibility of Gura being just as bad in Sekiro is high, but consider the following.
Sekiro is not an open world game, so viewers would be less frustrated with her going off tangent and stalling from fighting bosses.

>>20437570
She is never, ever finishing Sekiro. The default ending involves beating Isshin. Good fucking luck. I will kneel to shark forever if she does, but its not happening, and the numbers will be bad too.

>>20434264
>green whore exits
>man whore enters
only whores can rule this chart

>>20437204
Breaking ER early is pretty easy (once you know where to go in Caelid) after you get the horse
>Start with weapon that can inflict bleed
>Grab best early-mid game Talisman tucked into a corner of a fort (Soreseal)
>Kill some poor sod of a dragon that can't fight back with bleeding and get 75k runes
>Proceed to faceroll through to Atlas Plateau+
Of course, it's the nature of Open World games to be breakable, so there ya go.

>>20433655

>>20414350
>>20415208


Pretty old conversation, but just gonna add that miko's story, more than either of the other two, is the story of herself and her fans. I know its the case with all holos that the fan interaction helps define their character, but with Miko it goes much deeper than the others. She without a doubt failed in her initial role as an attempt at Kizuna Ai from Cover, her project was abandoned, and she was pushed into Hololive at the very bottom, like Suisei, but starting as a 'failure' instead of as an up and comer. The mental burden is simply different, and it very nearly broke her and sent her back to a onigiri packing job, with only the collective support of her few fans, Subaru, and Mio to stop her (I will forever be grateful to them and that is how I know the duckschizo is a falseflag 35p). But they only stopped her from breaking, it was the fans who essentially built her up, gave her the confidence she needed, and watched Miko bloom. Whether that's Cinderella or not, she is probably the ideal idol from a fans perspective, one who was saved from the deepest hells and is grateful for it. She is the saviorfag's dream, and the fan's ideal.

>>20437500
gura wasnt bad a t the combat of elden ring she just dont like the slower and punishing nature of it.
She doesn't have the patience to save runes and focus o levels, builds, upgrades,etc.
Sekiro has none of that. just defelcts and run.

/#/ is declining.

>>20438006
hey man

>>20433655

>>20433655
>>20433655

>>20437806
Anon, we're talking about Gura here. She's not a gamer, she even found Maneater of all game to be difficult.
ER is the worst match for her.

wait, holofes is tomorrow right? why is gura playing mario kart on that day?

>>20438473
is hours away form her stream
holoexpo is an other thing tough

>>20438473
it's friday morning in japan. tomorrow as in satuday japan time.

>>20438563
yea, I thought they have some fan booths for the expo.

A bit surprise Ina can get higher ccv in ER than Calli, I know that Ina has more higher floor than Mori but with higher ceiling than Mori in ER is something else.

>>20438869
calli is too into the game to be entertaining unfortunately.

If Gura actually did more streams with superchat readings she'd get a lot more SC. Like not punching up there with the big girls, but she usually gets like 2k+ per stream when she does.

>>20438869
Mori usually has overlap or is streaming at euro/japan time

>>20438869
Mori does dogshit on games though? All of Mori's high CCV shit is some form event, collab or karaoke.

On the opposite end Ina almost never has big streams or hosts events/collabs, just solid averages.

>>20437560
based

With this low peak ccv for Gura, her ccv for SC reading is still relatively high...is her chatting really that charming?

>>20439142
Her variety stream is more entertaining than her game stream, moreso if she's playing debuff game.

>>20439142
You can't get an objective answer to that question so let me explain it like this: Gura's high CCV (20k+) is usually for streams that draw tourists.

Gura has a 10k bank of people that show up for anything. So yeah, its no surprise most of them do not fuck off when it comes to superchatting, they want to hear her talk about herself or the loopy shit that goes through her head. There's also a pretty big buff in how hype she is for Holofes and people want to hear her gush about it.

>>20439042
Botan had an overlap yet crossed 20k

>>20437931
Miko’s the protagonist of hololive. She’s also the holo prototype. Consider:
>uncertain future
>few devoted fans
>gaijin invasion
>take advantage of numbers
>hit hard by circumstance
>devoted fans rally to idol power
>triumph
This is the outline of Miko’s idol arc up to 3D return. But many elements are applicable to other holos, some to a greater degree than others. And more importantly, the arc can also apply to Cover.

>>20439142
Yeah, she say random shit during SC reading which makes it interesting.

>>20439381
>Miko's the protagonist
>Not FBK or Shuba
Fuck off 35piss

>>20439142
>caring about Elden shit
Mori still beats Botan in views/time and average CCV

>>20439282
i don't think it's not tourists but instead clip watchers.

>>20437931
Sounds more like "rags to riches" than it is Cinderella story since she basically debuted and failed and then succeeded after hard work. Suisei's is the Cinderella story because she got adopted and abandoned. What's Gura's type of story, I wonder...

Why does Hololive have so many sappy stories?

Spoonfeed me how views/time is relevant besides being a skewed metric for Toya

>>20439559

>caring about Elden shit

More than half of Mori streams this month are ER, anon

>>20439655
And she still beat Botan even with that handicap

>>20439559
>average ccv
botan has higher median compared to anyone in En including gura

You guys bite huh

>Jp chuuba and their fans are threatening Susan to fix the cull
>YouTube KNEEL
>Westerncucks completely silent when Susan massive culling their oshi numbers
>Youtube ignore their problem
What went wrong ENbros??? If only we are as autistic as Nips...

>post about Gura, brings up Mori and Botan
Rent free? Rent free.

>>20440028

Lui at 12 huh. The amount of collabs she has on her channel seems to back up well her normally low solo streams

>>20437931
>>20439381
>>20439468
Miko is the Naruto of the Hololive. She will put an end to the cycle of hatred and her battle with Sasuke (Pekora)

>>20440175
What is it with people and wanting Pekora to be the antagonist? What the fuck she even do?

>>20440161
Looks like she is going the Mio route.

>>20438869
Ina is lucky that theres no overlap on her timeslot playing a buff game like Elden Shit

>>20440243
literal contrarianism

>>20440243

>>20439651
Makes Gura seem relevant despite only being a sub 10k CCV chuuba with 3.86 mil subs

>>20440175
Huh, that explains why she sounds like a mentally disabled woman

>>20440243
Sasuke isnt the antagonist tho

Gura realizes she hasn't streaming on her channel for a long time lol

sora last
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1504653821900836869

Does anyone has a detailed observation on how the ccv shifted on JP side after Rushia's termination?

>>20441268
It didn't. Some holos just up and took her slot, but that's about it.

Coco was a way bigger blow and it goes to show that a machine is greater than the sum of its parts because its not like Kson is relevant, but Coco was.

>>20440028
Oh, this is over a week old...

>>20438006
Hey man

Kronii might have the highest EN CCV today

>>20440243
Jealous 35piss desu

>>20434264
>>Vox - $99,785 (+$2,107)
Fuck! Quick Yagoo bring Coco back!

gura's views were very spiky during her hour as the only EN holo.

>>20441481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHeP7yFniBI

>>20441663
I don't see anything special about it, the game operates like Apex.

>>20441690
Ah, I thought it was just a karaoke. I did not realize it was another one of Nijisanji EN's celebrations

>>20441663
Tourists checking up her stream from time to time only to see her playing kusoge

Somehow, this shitty performance still reaches the 400k mark.

>>20441690
Counter: Mori's HUGE like her body announcement

>>20441810
It's fucking Gura, what did you expect?
Even her shill streams reached 400k

>>20441810
Well, keep in mind that a view does not mean someone watched the entire VOD.

So people go to her channel, check out her latest Elden Ring only to...witness this stream. Then again maybe how bad she was at it could be spectacle in itself.

>>20441268
Nothing really changed. Not even when mike streams.

>>20441810
title & thumbnail are the two most important factors for getting clicks, and that is a very clickable tile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxJjpSeXHI
720k in 3 days
HoloEN/NijiEN mogged

>>20439468
FBK is the 'Hokage' to Miko's 'Naruto'. The knowledgeable chief, but that is not a protagonist. She is a pillar, but a supporting one, and she likes it that way, and you know it.

Subaru is the main friend character, she just doesn't have protag power because her main difficulties came before Hololive, and were mainly bad luck related (granted she has some stories for sure). They were not experiences shared with fans. Miko had difficulties both inside and outside of Hololive, and overcame those during her Holo tenure with her fans and effort. If it came to protag power the only ones I'd say who have that are Miko, Suisei, Kanata, La Plus, and Gura

>>20441919
And that will be an estimation of $1.6k from that stream alone by socialblade.

First we got marine horny poster, now we get 35piss/narutofag?
# really is declining

>>20441970
Mogged how lmao? EN holds the nr 1 and 2 spot for song views gained after release.

>>20442095
>still seething about marine horny poster
kek. we have complainschizo as well

Oh no, Kronii put ER in the short game list.

>https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1504427362313773056?t=JOS0Dc7ai6GueINQl3t-fw&s=19
>Birthday3D after Holofest and Debut
Niji are scummy opportunists

>>20441981
>FBK is the 'Hokage
Is that why she didn't help her.

>>20442281
Won't regular audience be satiated with Holofes? It'll only leave their usual niji audience, nothing new.

>>20442281

>Riri

Meh, probably won't do much unless she brings some real big guests.

>>20442281
that girl is a midget

>>20441268
Lamy probably picked up quite a few fandeads

>>20442094
socialblade isnt reliable

Why are people surprised at Gura's numbers? she used to get the same thing playing dmc and that's supposed to be her ''favorite game''

>>20419126
I don't put numbers in the list because it makes it harder for me to update it, that's what the spacing is supposed to solve

looks like all those vtuber sponsorships worked out

>>20441810
>Showing the middle finger to that shit game
Holy based Gura

>>20443086

cute design

>>20434631
Gura is a mid-tier Holo at best who's carried by her big sub number. V-Tubers are on its way out in the English market and every future Gen, be it Hololive, Nijisanji, or even Indies, will only get less and less viewers as time goes on

>>20439641
Idol (hero’s) journey. Yagoo’s House of broken menheras make it inevitable if they actually succeed. You can also argue holostars sappy stories but they need bigger triumphs to make it more cinematic. Finally, earning enough to afford your own apartment isnt enough

>>20439945
>What went wrong ENbros??? If only we are as autistic as Nips...
Big difference is that the JP girls cared while the EN girls didn't really give a shit. In fact, some of them like Gura were probably relieved.

>>20443153
Man I wished I liked the gameplay, everything about it I like but the game itself is just isn't fun for me.

>>20443306
They might do something if it actually affected their payouts, like VOD culling.

>>20443206
>V-Tubers are on its way out in the English market
I guess that's for the best. It was a nice fad while it lasted, but the long term downsides to it are too big on a personal level. I myself am already getting tired as well, guess I'll take my leave when Stars EN arrive and then go back to my normal life doing more productive stuff.

>>20443206

You are reaching a lot with that but I really wonder if EN Gen 3 can get even remotely similar debut numbers to what Council get or it is just expecting too much.

>>20443206
B-but the VODs...

>>20443206
>>20443442
Holy samefag

>>20443206
>V-Tubers are on its way out in the English market
good

>>20443206
Cope harder, Gura is the most popular vtuber on the planet

>>20443684
>most popular Vtuber
>ave 10k CCV
>random NijiEN streamer zatsu on a Saturday
>15k CCV
huh

>>20443501
Unless Hololive does something to expand their market in the west, they'll probably do as good as Council.

>>20437931
Interesting way of putting her story in a more romanticized way but really you can do this sort of thing for all other holos. Still, she's no cinderella story like Suisei is. That's the point of contention here

>>20440161
Mind you, this doesn't mean her solo streams are bad objectively. It's just that she's SO much better in collabs.

>>20441810
she used to avg 600k-800k...

>>20443874
There was one EN stream with 10k+ CCV yesterday. Numbers have been going down for EN across the board

>>20443874
But look at the VODs! A whole 12% of her subscriber base bother to watch 30s or more of her streams!

We have never heard Yagoo, management or even Pekora herself say that Gura is the biggest Holo. It's clear that they see beyond just subscribe numbers and putting everything into consideration, Pekors is the biggest Holo by far.

Alright who underperformed today

SEA hour already? Or this one is a new burger?

Haaaah, by observing for the past week i can conlude that these hours are the worst time to be on the thread.

>>20444123
When has Cover called anyone the biggest Holo?

>>20443962
true, she isn't a cinderella story, she's guren lagann

Trying to have cozy Kronii hours and instead we got 1 schizo talking to himself for the past 10 minutes

>>20444251
Pretty sure they openly called FBK their top chuuba when she actually was one.

>>20444334
That was before the chinkout tho.

feb 2021 vs feb 2022 vod views

>>20444385
And? It happened, that's the point.

>>20444334
Those were some good times, before the normalfags invaded. What were the reasons that led to Fubuki's downfall? She's not even top 5 these days.

>>20444240
11 AM on a Friday here anon, make a guess

t.SEA

>>20444416
>only Mori inclined
Lmao

>>20444416
Foreign only? Why is Pmaru there?

>>20444416
Mori is the true strongest EN

>>20444545
foreign and other shits (kids, converts, etc)

>>20444442
FBK got a whole lot of dead subs drom the clips, who then never bothered to watch the streams because they're all in japanese.

>>20444475
This one is full autism though, just sad to to see them replied to themselves.

>>20444416
No NijiEN reached 5M views? Pretty strange.

>>20444509
These are views, anon. Mori isn't so much inclining as just adding more and more songs. [Q] alone is making her strong as fuck.

I don't understand the chart though. Peko, Marine and Suisei had monstrous amounts of views in February too, where are they?

>>20444689
only one and its vox
vox feb views: 5.2m

>>20444442
>downfall
Her kouhais just got bigger. She’s still as popular as she’s ever been. You’re better off meming a natural recline to FBK since that would be more accurate. And despite that recline, I would still call her a top holo because her subs and VODs are still formidable and her autism catches insane CCV enough times to make her the chuuba to beat. FBK is a wild card.

>>20444708
Marine didn't stream/ release many shorts in feb.

>>20444689
its actually two.
vox: 5.2m
mysta: 5m

>>20444334
>>20444251
no, they always talked about aqua in the marketing presentations
they dont really focus on anyone right now except gura as the only >EN that matters

>>20444708

>>20444764
>>20444892
Vox is a beast... No... An Akuma!

>>20445054
KING!
who's that above him

>>20445054
Pekora mogged...

>>20445043
>Gura is the only EN that matters
>Has Mori do the Song for their biggest project yet
>Allows Mori to collaborate with outsiders despite being hard on other HoloENs
>gives Mori the chance to collaborate with other Music producers in Japan
>gives Mori big sponsorships and events
Why do chumfaggots like tooting their own horns?

>>20445264
wow its almost like the braphog is in japan or something

>>20445171
Ashida
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxfyW58K88YepKgIS1BLmOg

This is just sad anon, lack of parental love?

>>20445313
Sounds like a whole lot of cope
Seethe more faggot. While you Memeshart is drowning in her own piss, Mori is actually being taken care of by Holo management because they know who the real star of HoloEN is

What the fuck is Kroniis secret to viewer retention when she hardly says anything and goes out of her way to hide her tits? You can at hand wave Ina because she has her own timeslot....

>>20445313
I honestly don't think anything would've changed if Gura was also in Japan. She's way too undecisive and retreats into her comfort zone at the first sight of challenge if it's in the area where she's unsure of herself. She's gotten much better, but she still has ways to go. Compared to Mori and Kiara she is very reluctant to go after opportunities.

>>20445481
She has a nice voice

>>20445392
Stop larping as a deadbeat.

>>20445559
*indecisive

>>20445365
I'm just so fucking tired of Gura triggering mental collapses in anons.

>>20445481
Blue women in hololive are just perfect you know.

>a book to wead
AAAAAAAAAA SHES SO CUTE

>>20445481
I ain't telling you, Fungus.

>>20445481
She's charming and it is fun to watch her play games

>>20445920
oops kek

>>20445481
shes fun to watch

I propose we all kneel to King to avoid dumb tribalfags shitting up the thread.
I'll start first:
>I KNEEL, KING!

>>20445264
>biggest project yet
Hololive Alternative is fucking dead.

I KNEEL, KING

KING, I KNEEL!

>>20443874
>gura
>10k
idiot it's literally rare for her to get that ccv she's getting 15k or above at most

>>20446582
>responding to old bait
You're the idiot here, anonchama.

>>20445054
Suisei passive grinding vod views kek.

>>20441970
>Fastest Hololive songs to reach a million views (Top 50 list) (17th Mar 2022)

REFLECT (Gawr Gura) - 0d 10h 29m
King (CalliGura) - 0d 11h 36m
Q (CalliGura) - 0d 19h 32m
Unison (Houshou Marine) - 1d 15h 15m
Ochame Kinou (HoloEN) - 1d 20h 0m
Off With Their Heads (Mori Calliope) - 1d 20h 21m
Roki (Mori Calliope) - 2d 0h 26m
Kamipoi (Laplus) - 2d 7h 43m
Can you do the hololive Beyond the stage ver (All Members) - 2d 9h 35m
Goodbye Sengen (Nakiri Ayame) - 2d 14h 51m

Hololive Ochame Kinou (All members) - 2d 17h 0m
Kiseki Knot (4th Gen) - 2d 17h 0m
Myth or treat (Holomyth) - 2d 20h 45m
Animal (Suisei and Miko) - 3d 0h 28m
Phony (Suisei) - 3d 5h 29m
End of a life (Mori) - 3d 9h 50m
Ochame Kinou (HoloX) - 4d 0h 15m
GETCHA! (Suisei and Mori) - 4d 1h 45m
Goodbye Sengen (Minato Aqua) - 4d 6h 41m
KING (Nakiri Ayame) - 4d 16h 36m

RIP (Mori Calliope) - 5d 9h 49m
Peko Miko War (Miko and Pekora) - 5d 15h 50m
KING (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 5d 15h 56m
Red (Mori Calliope) - 6d 0h 52
Lower one's eyes (Suisei) - 6d 5h 5m
Goodbye Sengen (Takanashi Kiara) - 6d 18h 37m
Ruma (Hakui Koyori) - 7d 0h 30m
Haiiro to Ao (Suisei and Towa) - 7d 7h 48m
Sorairo Days (Matsuri and Gura) - 7d 14h 24m
King (Pavolia Reine) - 7d 22h 4m

Bully (Mori Calliope) 8d 10h 1m
Vampire (Minato Aqua) - 8d 15h 12m
Goodbye Sengen (Uruha Rushia) - 8d 17h 6m
Fansa (Kiryu Coco) - 8d 18h 0m
Mogu Mogu Yummy! (Nekomata Okayu) - 9d 0h 34m
Target for love (Gawr Gura) - 9d 9h 33m
Violet (Ninomae Inanis) 9d 12h 40m
The Grim Reaper is a Live Streamer (Mori Calliope) - 9d 13h 54m
Tuning love (Pekora Moona) - 10d 0h 24m
Animal (Nekomata Okayu) - 10d 2h 41m

Bluerose (Hoshimachi Suisei) 10d 3h 37m
Umapoi densetsu (Aqua, Fubuki, Marine, Rushia, Kanata, Mio) - 10d 13h 43m
Ghost (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 10d 18h 43m
Usseewa (Mori and Milky queen) - 10d 19h 48m
Eye (Takane Lui) - 11d 0h 42m
Envy Baby (Mori Calliope) - 11d 21h 3m
DEAD BEATS (Mori Calliope) - 12d 5h 20m
Saga Jihen (Suisei & 3rd Gen) - 12d 6h 15m
A New Start (Nanashi Mumei) - 12d 6h 52m
Stellar Stellar (Hoshimachi Suisei) - 12d 14h 41m

>>20446653
>coping by saying it's a bait
retard people gonna think it's true if no one went against it idiot

you should rope yourself for being so retarded

>>20445792
clearly this calls for more Gura

>>20445481
I'm addicted to that voice and her dorky nature.

>>20446993
Take yout meds, retard.

>>20447076
>>20447269
>>20447364
>>20447457
Please don't be an example of the mythical chumkek they hae so much. Stop it, even if its dead hours ,spamming images is stupid and just gets more schizos rilled up at gura

>>20447630
>don't post gura because it makes the schizos mad
I bet you're the same kind of retard who feeds the screaming child candy to make him shut up

>>20444021
Prediction for next year? Will Gura remain at ~400k plateau or will she decline furyher to 300k average? She is still getting subs, but her VOD or CCV averages are trending down...

>>20447692
Well no, it's not just gonna make schizos mad, is it? You're spamming an unrelated thread with Gura images and being offtopic. It would rightfully miff even non schizos.

>>20447783
She did not average 700-800 in 2021. Stop fucking using 2020 numbers and constantly shouting reclining. Yes, she doesn't have those numbers any more, they were from when Myth was the hottest shit ever.

>>20447692
There are /hlgg/ and /ggg/ to post Gura in.

>>20447832
okay, fair enough, but lets all agree to start posting gura images when the schizo gets triggered again

>>20447959
not a containment thread

>>20447895
Yeah she did in february 2021. Anon, come on now.

>>20447969
Are you an actual retard? Why the fuck are you recommending dealing with shitstirrer by actually pasting your own shit all over the place?

>>20447783
She's definitely going to recline. People will find the next hot thing to latch on to and her tourists will stop watching her as much

>>20447783
if she doesn't put more effort in her streaming then she will fall down to 250-300 average

it's only her problem though. Hololive is a BOX, HoloEN stagnated because of a not-so-big contribution from Council
if Cover actually debuts an EN3 full with people that are hungry to stream and create content then that would affect Gura too and will help her incline again

EN just needs new blood that is actually motivated and the previous gens will incline too

>>20448094
because shock therapy is a thing

>>20448121 (me)
*not only her problem

>>20448172
>shock therapy is a thing
Anon... I...

>>20448121
>if she doesn't put more effort in her streaming then she will fall down to 250-300 average
you're retarded, streaming less results in higher vods. It's the same reason why Koyori's vods suck dirt. If anything if she wants to optimize for VODs she should be streaming twice a week, max

>>20448351
You're half right, but streaming twice a week won't magically triple Koyori's VODs

> Expecting shizos to read how playboard does vod view average.

>>20448351
No, anon. That's not ot works.

>>20444123
That is Miko. she is more influential than Pekora easily. When was the last time a new kouhai said she is fan of Pekora?

>>20448172
Go shock your balls off retard

>>20448092
You got any numbers to back that up? Because looking at the VODs now is useless data, they had a year to get more views.

And shit like >>20444021 ignores the fact that Playboard takes the past 90 days so it would have dipped into 2020 numbers anyway. Not that fucking February 2021 is that far away from 2020 to begin with. The point I'm trying to make is that in fact Gura's numbers have been pretty damn steady for a year now and I'm tired of seeing "ooh recline" in reference to her golden age. Compare it to some recent shit damn it, I don't think Hololive in general will ever rebound back to that late 2020 early 2021 power.

>>20448460
yes, anon, that's exactly how it works. This isn't twitch, your channel doesn't go dead if you don't stream

>>20448498

>>20448464
Chicken...

>>20448351

>bored (I ain't watching Elden Shit)
>Decided to finally check Mike's second stream:
>Straight up plastered Valentine's Day text on fucking March
>Ain't showing face, just her torso and has a PNG on the corner
She ain't throwing the GFE gig away, is she?
Also, is funny she did not went full facecam like Kson when everyone knows how she looks like and instead she hid her face and had a PNG on her screen as her representation. Like, is she really not throwing away the chance to reincarnate as an indie vtuber? Does that mean we should include her once she debuts her model?
Actually, money aside, how long it takes to get a commisioned vtuber avatar ready?
I know some cosplayer I follow (Haneame) teased her vtuber debut and, around, two months from then it already has a fully rigged live 2d model.
So around by next month she may show her live 2d?
Obviously this is just schizo speculations.

>>20448523
You still need people willing to catch up though.

>>20448504
>Playboard takes the past 90 days
>>20448452

>>20448641
and she has those people, those 3.8 mil subs aren't just for show

>>20448641
The box is there for a reason anon, just look at Sana's last stream.
if we're using twitch standard she should've maxed at 300.

>>20448667
Whatever, that anon and I are making the same point: that screenshot dips into very early Gura content when everything was huge. In fact his info proves it better so hey, I'm glad to be wrong.

>>20448712
They are though. They are clip watchers who can't be assed to sith throufh 3 hour long streams and just watch hype moments for instant gratification.

>Ratna 10K

Nijisanji INCLINING

>>20448712
I thought that anon is talking about increase Koyori's average vod views in this case.

>>20448827
Her vod views prove otherwise

>>20448504
>Playboard takes the past 90 days
checking holo subscription videos the playboard pic is early December so her vods are late Oct - Nov to early Dec

>>20448641
Time and time again we see these people show up though. Unless you want to say something retarded like the classic
>for the past 1 year people have been opening Gura VODs, gotten bored after exactly 30 seconds, left a like and didn't watch any more

>>20448417
No, but it would definitely help because her fans aren't drowned in new content to keep up with

>>20448852

>one pov apex with nose

10k kinda low, no?

>>20448879
I figured at as much. Classic bullshit anons spin around here.

>>20448929
well Nijisanji + VSPO are pretty buddy buddy so it's fine

>>20448929
numberrot has gotten into your brain if you thought 10k is low anon

>>20448929
It's very low considering Nose didn't put up her POV.

Here's an example of a youtube channel that puts out content maybe once a month, if that. According to the logic commonly spouted in this thread, his audience would've forgotten about him between every long break. But yet he keeps getting massive views with every video.

You retards need to understand that youtube is not twitch and putting out 10 hours of content every day is not what the youtube audience prefers.

I'm surprised how mad anons in here are towards Gura. She's cute.

>>20449004

Low in context, anon. Nose has not even a pov and took more than 1 hour to get 10k

>>20449000
vspo is buddy buddy with everyone. Which is good

>>20449084
Gura mindbroke them with her big numbers and they've held a grudge since then

What's wrong with Petra lately? Why is her gimmick streams not pulling more viewers?

>>20449071
They will never accept this and they have no reason to accept this, because people catching up on VODs is rarely relevant for JPs who stream to an audience that can mostly catch them.

>>20449084
Seanig hours, anon. Just nijiniggers malding.

>>20449173
Nothing wrong about irrelevant streamers getting irrelevant numbers.

>>20449127
I think the whole industry needs to blacklist Hololove for how uninclusive they are. In the EN side, Hololive is already persona non grata already. Let's wait for JP side to do the same.

>>20449071
According to your logic, chuubas need to do 5-15min scripted videos on a specific topic instead of streams then.

>>20449192
this is why we should stop letting the retards run the market and discount VODs because it hurts their precious fee fees.
I still can't believe the numbers thread somehow managed to convince themself that "vods don't matter" like this is the twitch general

>>20449280
t.

>>20449173
Other than that one outlier, most of her streams were collabs. I think that's slowly killing her channel.

>>20449282
You're being purposely obtuse now anon.

>>20449286
can't horse race the vods but I agree that vods matter since ad rev is related to that

>>20449286
You can't believe it? Then you've bought into a fucking farce, an illusion. Look how few actual charts or numbers are posted here that can't immediately be ripped from a site. This isn't some gathering of data analysts, its a gathering of tribalfags who use the easiest to understand numbers to beat each other up with (except subs apparently because someone broke that metric oops).

>>20449280
Cry more Fungus.

>>20449286
I think it's not that VODs doesn't matter, but from the outside without actual numbers VOD analyzing is much more difficult to do compared to the simple horse racing of CCV

>>20449286
I would argue they do matter less for long videos. Even in given example long streams are the worst performing xontent on that channel.

After 60 fucking days haachama has finally hit 1.35
Turn your superchats back on you fucking whore

>>20449280
It's a good thing that most twitch retards think of Vshojo as the represent of EN vtubers, keep those fuckers away from hololive.

>>20448558
Yeah and she doesn't even mention Pekora that much anymore. I think she like Subaru and other more than Pekora these days

>>20449431
Anon...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLO5-IyS5pE

>>20449354
No, I'm just pointing out that the format of the content matters, a lot.

>>20449084
Because your oshi will never beat Gura in sheer popularity. I personally hate her because she barely do anything and get everything handed to her on debut, especially the bs algorithm favoring her channel

>>20449482
Damm! I almost cried.

>>20449533
That's about money, not views, and only if you deliberately exploit yt's pajeet designed dumpster fire of a system.

>>20449482
Why should she? Don't Haatons always say that she 'doesn't give a fuck'? Just let her run her channel into the ground. No one cares anymore anyway.

>>20449402
Did anyone barged in the numbers thread thinking people don't have an agenda to push and it's actually about analyzing and discussing numbers in good faith?

>>20449649
That's a bad reason to hate anybody, especially a sweetheart like Gura.

>>20449692
because Haatons give a fuck you retard.

>>20449280
kill yourself

>>20449763
Then say it to her directly instead of whining here, retard. She doesn't come /here/, so what the fuck is complaining here gonna do? Make the cosmos bend her to your will?

>>20449351
>>20449173
it's a late stream with overlaps
where she studies for 30 minutes (minimum to no talk at all) followed by 10 minutes of talking

she's doing fine, even though I agree she should do more solo streams, she's one of the NijiENs that streams the least I think

>>20449727
Basically it all boiled down to jealousy. Everyone think their oshi is the best and deserve better, which is why nousagi used to raid every outfit stream back before her outfit. Because they want her to be treated better
Pretty sure most fanbase would do the same thing in their situation

>>20449845
Look at this edgy piece of work.
Multiple marine/gura posters don't bother you, but a few words to vent about Haachama and you're flying off the handle?
The post you replied to even has number so why are you whining about you faggot

>>20449682
Anon... A 3 hour, 1.5 million view vod is THE most profitable video of a big channel.
Now imagine 250000000 views all on long vods
The holos are making BANK on those vods

What does she mean by this?
Is she implying low-tier Nijis like those in KR aren't people or is this a thinly veiled attack on nipple boy?

https://twitter.com/ratna_petit/status/1504650174291128320

>>20450330
someone link shibuya hals revenue to this guy

>>20450330
If I might interject anon, that's not really the case. Because a lot of the VOD views are from the stream itself, even for Gura. Do we have any idea how live stream ads work? They might not even exist desu, never seen one. Which makes me wonder why the fuck we're even treating live views as important.

In contrast, I can tell you that I get absolutely fucking spammed with ads on VODs

>>20450407
>can't play valorant anymore since it'll remind people of nippleman
Even Kuzuha went to play LooL

>>20450113
NTA, but he kinda has a point. If she doesn't give a fuck, then why should we? We're not Haatons.

>>20449845
Actual retard

>>20450528
You're actually right kek

>>20450555
NTA but if >we don't give a fuck then why do we always talk about her like we care when she streams? If no one cares then I never want to see discussions about her again

>>20450671
almost 22K with 1:30 AM LoL

KING... I kneel.

>>20450694
It's something to fill in the dead hours, I guess. Kinda sad though that now she's relegated to being a filler.

>>20450508
If you watch the video you'd realize that he says most of the revenue comes from yt premium, which is why ads don't matter in that case. So that argument doesn't work

they really do be trying everything for any kind of audiences

>>20450898
I mean, there're plenty of discussions /here/ about Vspo, mid tier niji, hell, even some midget Vsen and 774 so why not Haachama?
And yes I'm
>t. Haaton

>>20451034

>18k likes

nijikr bros...

>>20451191
Twitter likes rarely converted into views tho

>>20451034
>gook
lmao revolution heart got the male market he has no chance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vxJqO6wwVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60CRPJTPKgw

>>20449533
Jesas. This means VODs in general are big cash money, and yes that includes pretty much all the CCV heavy hitters like Marine, Pekora, and Kuzuha because big CCV= big VODs anyway.

>>20451034
If the rrats are true, he's part Korean, so it makes sense for him to pander to the gooks

>>20451034
>Holo gets NA viewers, Niji sends out Lazulight and Obsydia to compete
>Holo gets ID viewers, Mika becomes the whore of their branch to compete with HoloID
>Holo gets RU viewers due to Botan, Nina panders to them
>Holo gets CN viewers before taiwan yabe, Vox panders to them
>Holo gets TW viewers, Vox panders to them
>Holo gets ES viewers due to Coco pandering, Reimu sets out to get them but eventually failed
>Holo gets KR viewers due to Ame, someone is sent out to get them
The only place they got freely is PH and FR.

Oh boy, NijiEN is bringing the fight to HoloEN in Korea as well.

>>20450898
This actually might be a filler topic but she's pretty close to hitting 1 million on Twitter

>>20451359
More like cannibalizing their own KR branch

https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1504676163263754247
https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1504665539071082499
https://twitter.com/minatoaqua/status/1502852416328196096
https://twitter.com/ShibuyaHAL/status/1503688535962169350

It's happening, isn't it?

>>20451337
>Holo gets RU viewers due to Botan, Nina panders to them
Not for long.

>>20451397
kek
https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/%EB%8B%88%EC%A7%80%EC%82%B0%EC%A7%80en

>>20451417
Ok this is plenty big, not saying Vsaikyou isn't big, but this is quite a surprise if it's really happening.

>>20451504
>not for long
wdym?

>>20451560
Russia might just ban youtube on their territory.

>>20451560
Right now russian viewers are absolutely worthless because they are cut off from the global economic system
The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if Russians are cut off from youtube entirely in the near future.

>>20449173
isn't this better than her usual 600 viewers?

>>20451528
In comparison to Hololive,
https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/%ED%99%80%EB%A1%9C%EB%9D%BC%EC%9D%B4%EB%B8%8C

>>20451599
Guess they will just use VPN, then.

>>20451528
Direct pandering vs clips, not really comparable

>>20451551
>quite a surprise
Really? Isn't this lineup the prevailing prediction since Suisei started practicing Apex?

>>20451599
Yt is technically banned in CN too, yet they still make a sizable market for Luxiem

By the way, in small indie news, Cyberlive appears to be going down the shitter

>>20451337
every holoen has a bizarre amount of korean viewers

>copying holomemes

>>20451707
I mean to participate in tourney so soon? I'm for one, quite surprised.
Also, Suityan hasn't interacted with a male chuuba before right?

Is this their answer to beat Holofest?

>>20451754
Anything for the NUMBERZ.

>>20451337
Why do they like being tryhards?

>>20451808
>VRchat
maybe
>DBH, JK, Omori
rumao

>>20451034
good for him(?)

>>20451867
I meant for VRChat only since I'm too lazy to edit the other 3 out.

>>20451808
Does Luxiem and Niji girls audiences overlap? This is an all girls collab. If they get shit numbers without the males, then they still don't have the box yet.

>>20451803
She did a stream with Roberu.

>>20451808
Have to keep the all out war going, you know?

>>20451964

shu is there too anon

>>20451968
Forgot about that.
So that leaves Onyan, still a big surprise.

>>20451808
no it's just a collab

>>20451808
Pomu playing metal gear? That would get huge numbers from a Holo.

>>20452002
Damn I didn't see that, seems like an all member collab

>>20452013
She played with kanae/kuzuha before anon.

>>20451337
Who has the Thailand audience?

>>20451551
the only surprising thing (if its really happening) is that they managed to tard wrangle Aqua into it

>>20452071
Beat my ass and call me a threadreader.
I have no excuse for forgetting that.
Forgive me Onyan

https://youtu.be/LxogdwfATv8
>stars now have hand tracking for their home 3D
is this new? also, the tracking seems better than the last time the girls showcased it.

>>20452188
I mean its been awhile so its understandable.

>>20452209
For them, maybe. Glad they keep on working on it.

>>20452148
HØRI 07

no...

>>20452270
I guess the girls need to set their cameras properly. it is tracking pizza dad really well.

>>20448351
>"you're retarded"
>proceeds to go full retard
Anon, YouTube requires that your channel produces content daily in order for the algorithm to keep feeding your content to the audience.

It has been historically known that YouTubers often were concerned that if they stopped uploading content regularly that their channel would get ranked down and even Holos themselves worry about taking breaks for the same reason.

>>20452300
Lui-nee could take it, if she wanted it.