/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>20427512
I agree with this chart.

>>20427512
Where is Rushia

>>20427512
Mori should be in a separate category labelled 'Fans hate vtubers'

>>20427512
Mori should have her own group called: "Fans hate vtubers".

>>20427705
>>20427693
It'd be too long since it would include Nijisnji and 2views

>>20427512
>an accurate tierlist
What is going on?

>>20427512
double casual

>>20427512
i watch nijisanji

>>20427910
Legitimately like saying Burger King and Wendy's are your favorite dining establishments because you've never eaten a steak before.

>>20427512
Casual here means that the chuuba actually has enough of a personality or unique content that you don't enjoy the boring /jp/ chuubas, yes?

>>20427512
I only watch peko and towa religiously, so idk where I'm at

>>20428028
t. SEAnigger

>>20427512
F for Council, they belong in the special category. 'Fans do not exist'

>>20428155
This is obviously a american. Who else would go straight to the fast-food comparison?

>>20428266
Good point, he must be a chumpedo then

>>20427512
what if you're a fan of people from either groups?

>>20428079
There's no universal way to tell exactly, but generally if a chuuba:
>mainly draws in viewers with solo content
>has a higher than average view/sub count in gen
>makes limited effort to organize things and collab with genmates
>is limited creatively, mainly does gaming streams and karaoke
>makes limited effort to help out genmates off-stream
>leans into memes
they're responsible for casualizing vtuber fandom as a whole.

>>20427512
Switch Okayu with Kiara

Also move Watame down, sheepposters are not representative of real watamates

Casual fag

>>20427512
Finally at least I'm normie...in something

>>20427512
I watch vspo but I agree with this except for ame, lamy, noel and flare.

>>20428413
>>makes limited effort to organize things and collab with genmates
>>is limited creatively, mainly does gaming streams and karaoke
>>makes limited effort to help out genmates off-stream

>Miko
>Casual
ogey nice list

>>20428422
So, whos bulge is that?
Mine or theirs?

>>20428428
Don’t cry chumpedo be grateful you’re not a deadcuck!

I am not japanese. I don't speak japanese. Therefore I don't watch Japanese streams, nor do I care about Japanese vtubers.

>>20428483
As I said, generally, not universally.

>>20428413
so basically you had no idea wtf you were doing

18 posters in this thread, plus me. Are all of those 18 people bilingual? That's a lot of bilingual people. Otherwise, why are you all watching Japanese livestreamers? Isn't it American hours on 4chan right now? Do you seriously live in America, speak English, and then spend your time watching Japanese streams you cannot even understand?

>>20428665
the properties can vary on a case-by-case basis

>>20427512
>love me sheep
>love mr. koro
>love ame
i hate vtubers. why?

>>20428502
Whichever you prefer

>>20428515
But Hololive is a Japanese company, so you shouldn't watch it at all.

>>20428508
Mori's elder ring streams are the only VTuber related content I watched these last few weeks

>>20427910
Kill yourself twitter tranny casuals deserve the rope and to be beheaded in the name of allah

>>20428760
I don't

>>20427512
I can actually agree with this.

>>20427512
The only category that matters is whether you like your oshi, not whether you like all vtubers in general. The opposite of "casual" isn't "liking vtubers".

>>20427512
This was made by a teamate

>>20428708
Yes. You don't? Fucking casual.

>>20428708
Yes.

>>20428708
Yes.

>>20428515
>>20428708
There is a lot of english streamers in that chart.

>>20427512
Yeah "8 hour superchat readings" Watame, such a casual magnet.

>>20428827
There are 70 English livestreamers, at the 7 English corporations. Plus hundreds of English indies.

You seriously spend your time watching Japanese livestreamers, just because you like licking Yagoo's ass so much that you refuse to watch a different company?

>>20428776
>tranny
I assure you I am not only heterosexual but also have larger genitalia than you

>>20428836
Hololive has 11 english livestreamers. Half of whom never stream, and several of whom are completely unwatchable. Hololive's english branch is incredibly weak. And a small drop in the bucket of English vtubers that exist out there.

>>20428413
gaming streams and karaoke are a staple for 90% of vtubers and most of them are creatively limited because they don't want to show their hands
Apart from that, all of those just point to a chuuba with a personality strong enough to carry a stream by herself without having to rely on unity or "muh hololive family". The main difference between the top and bottom categories is that that the girls on top are actually funny while the girls on the bottom (besides fubuki) are trying to fish for groomers

>>20428227
Sanalites....

>>20428413
>mainly draws in viewers with solo content
>makes limited effort to organize things and collab with genmates
>is limited creatively, mainly does gaming streams and karaoke
So why is Sora not in casual again?

>>20428906
Yes.

>>20428908
You will burn In the eternal sea of flames jew

>>20428665
Just like every time when something like this is made. Schizo just wants to create a quarrel in /vt/

>>20427512
Shishiron, Watame, Okayu and Suisei from casual tier, Ina, Aki, Choco and Mion from non-casual. And I do disagree with Okayu being casual tier, too chill and not as clipped for that. Noel and Ayame are more casual tier IMO.

>>20428955
But they are the only relevant english vtubers.

>>20428708
Holodex exist, anon

>>20429018
take your meds pal

>>20428413
That's wrong. Collabs casualize everything and create fickle viewers who don't care about the content and just want to see some new e-celeb on every stream.

>>20427512
"Fans are casuals" applies to the entirety of Hololive.

>>20429042
So you are a toxic numberfag that only cares about the viewcounter? You don't care about having an enjoyable experience, watching a stream that you can actually understand? You're limiting yourself to a very small corner of the vtuber world. And you even force yourself to watch Japanese streams rather than spending even a single moment watching something that isn't part of that corporation. It's retarded

>>20428955
And all other English chuubas are even worse

>>20428483
Miko's fanbase is literally the definition of casuals

>>20428708
>>20428906
>>20429172
t. seething 2view chuuba

>>20427512
>this was made by mythfag

>>20428955
>HoloEN is incredibly weak
I really can't resist this nipplenigger's bait

>>20429205
That's simply not true at all. You haven't seen them. In fact many of the people who are now famous vtubers were once indies and smaller livestreamers.

>>20429172
What if the Japanese chuubas are just better? It's not like anything they're doing is super hard to understand.

Move FBK, Nene, Risu up.
Move Watame down. Maybe Subaru and Matsuri too, as I'm not really sure what warrants them being up there.

And put Gura with Calli, at least keep some consistency.

>>20429172
>enjoyable
>english streamer
I respect my time. I won't waste it on trash.

>>20429218
maybe, but not by whatever retarded parameters OP pretended to use

>>20427512
Everyone seriously replying to this is just dumb and gay, so this thread probably get 500 or so replies

>>20429247
Prism for example has MORE english vtubers than Hololive does. And they're just one smaller corporation. There are many smaller corporations.

>>20428413
Why is Suisei there then?
>mainly draws in viewers with solo content
Her last collab in her channel was 2 weeks ago, probably another collab in other channels
>has a higher than average view/sub count in gen
Ogey, not really relevant
>makes limited effort to organize things and collab with genmates
She collabed with Miko for 4 hours
>is limited creatively, mainly does gaming streams and karaoke
I'll give you that
>makes limited effort to help out genmates off-stream
She's producing holofest
>leans into memes
No, saying three times "hi honey" is not "leaning into memes"
I think you are a nigger

>>20428908
Kinda gay faggot

>>20428502

>>20429339
which Prism 2view are you?

>>20429282
You waste your time listening to a foreign language you cannot even understand. Why?
You just love the taste of Yagoo's anal juice? You refuse to watch something that isn't part of that corporation?

>>20427512
>Suisei, Ollie, Marine
Shit, I guess I'm a casual

>>20429172
Then show me some timestamp from your favorite non-corporative vtuber.

>>20429259
Name some good English-speaking vtubers outside of Hololive. There are actually a couple I like, by the way.

>>20427512
Imagine thinking I watch hololive, do amerimutts really?

>>20429398
Are you the seeghiy 2view from /#/ that hates Suisei? Go back to stream

>>20429398
HAHAHAHAHA
it must feel truly awful to lose viewers to this
I feel bad for you small corpo streamers, but not enough to watch

>>20427512
i am in both

>>20427512
You should have put Calli in the bottom category for the seethe

>>20429514
>seeghiy
Seething*

>>20429514
>seeghiy
anon???

>>20427512
Only a casual would make a tierlist this shitty.

>>20429548
You are watching japanese livestreamers, and you don't even speak Japanese

>>20429398
why you forcing someone to watch other chuubas rumao they can watch who they want to watch.

>>20428773
Those streams any good?
Most english elden ring streams I'se seen suck

>>20429514
I hope you’re not a SEAnigger anon,
We don’t like SEAniggers around these parts

>>20429623

>>20429623
You Will Never Be in Hololive

>>20428708
imagine not speaking three languages

>>20429738
No, I'm just a retard

>>20429712
They are a slave to this corporation. For some insane, bizarre reason they will only watch a livestream that comes from that corporation, even when that livestream is in a foreign language. They also worship Yagoo for.....no reason. They don't even know the guy, they probably don't know his last name. And yet they spend their day licking his ballsack.

>>20429623
Only American niggers and sea mud hutt owners watch hololive

>>20429171
Did nina ever stop her constant male collab spam?
I miss her comfy solo streams.

>>20429623
Time for your daily dose of Hololive, which, by the way, you will never be in

>>20428413
subaru is more normie than the people who watch subaru.

>>20427512
Fuck off, I didn't lose my hearing so you can call me casual...

>>20429875
I think you have some deeper, underlying issues if other people's preferences in vtubers bothers you this much, anon.

>>20427512
WHERE IS MY COUNCILLLLLLLLL

>>20430033
anon, as much as i love shuba shes a 100% normie and so are her viewers

>>20430091
I figured his insistence that everyone replying absolutely must only watch Holos and not possibly watch other JP chuubas as well was a good indicator too.

>>20429875
how many time are you going to write the same post with different words?
this is why no one watches your streams

>>20430097
baewatchers would need a separate "fans love vtubers" tier

>>20430091
99% of hololive fans (and they are truly "hololive fans", fans of a corporation) have never seen a vtuber who wasn't part of their corporation. This is quite different from.....literally every other corporation. Who frequently collab with each other and interact each other.

Hololive is deliberately avoiding any crossover with other corporations, because they have a monopoly on these people and they don't want to lose it.

>>20429734
NTA but Irys' and Ina's elden rings playthrough are quite good

>>20427679
who?

>>20427512
I know its bait but your choices are shit and you should feel bad.

>>20430218
And this affects you how? Why do you care so much about what other people do with their time?

>>20430218
you are so dumb and ignorant

>>20430218
>Hololive is deliberately avoiding any crossover with other corporations
did you perhaps meant to say holoEN? because hololiveJP and to a lesser extent holoID collab with other chuubas outside of hololive all the fucking time

>>20430218
>she doesn't know

>>20429339
>More is better
That's not always the case anon. I also watch some of them like Pina and Sumi before she graduated but some of them are really weak thanks to my oshi's constant shilling and exposure for Iku, I watch some of her streams but it just doesn't click with me

>>20430307
There are a lot of good vtubers out there, and yet 90% of the market is monopolized by this one corporation. And this corporation has a very weak English branch, it's so weak that many of the fans spend their time watching Japanese streamers they cannot even understand.

It's retarded. These people need to branch out and watch something else for a change. There's hundreds of people out there.

>>20430448
link your stream

>>20427512
oh look a seafag who thinks something popular == bad.

sometimes something popular means good you dumb edgy contrarian 14yo emo known by your friends a "dark lord of the dark"

>>20430448
Ok, I'll watch you. What's your channel? I hope you are not boring

>>20430448
i really hope you're just falseflagging as a seething 2view because you're so annoyingly stupid that you're giving them a bad look and it's making me want to do anything BUT give other chuubas a chance (not like i didn't already but inside your retarded mind there's absolutely no way someone could have their oshi be someone from hololive AND watch other corpos/indies at the same time).

>>20430448
Show me on good english streamer outside of hololive.

>>20430118
You say that now but 3 years ago her ASMR filtered normalfags so hard.

>>20430218
I will watch a non-Hololive vtuber the day they do shit as cash as this:
https://streamable.com/j3twls

Too bad there is not a single one in existence that can do it.

>>20427512
>Okayu and Watama at the top
>Any HoloEN and Towa at the bottom
With the rest I agree.

>>20430448
>>20430715
I think Hololive have finished their last EN auditions and is sending the rejection emails to the rest.
She is one of them.

>>20430730
NijiEN

>>20427512
I could nitpick a bunch of shit that's retarded about this list, but if you try to think like a caveman for a second and understand the gist of what it's trying to say, it's actually pretty good. Though I'd move Kiara and Moona up, maybe Nene and Towa too.

>>20430448
Okay, so there are a lot of good vtubers out there. That doesn't answer my question though. Why do you care so much about how other people spend their time? It has nothing to do with you and doesn't affect you, unless you're a seething 2view who got rejected by Hololive or something.

Hololive reject?
Hololive reject

>>20430963
Hi Reimu.

>>20431022 (me)
Oh, and move Haachama down. She'd be at the top back in her heyday, but that's no longer the case. Same for Matsuri.

>>20431161
A classic

>>20430097
I think they're all vaguely in "fans love vtubers", same with IRyS. Maybe Kronii gets a little more in "fans hate vtubers" but I'm just going off /inf/

>>20427512

>>20427512
>EN whore
>fans actually like vtubers
Bring me better bait next time faggot.