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20204320 No.20204320 [Reply] [Original]

All we said was use more vigor...

>> No.20204384

>”Bro, could you please calm down and try to learn the boss’s moves?”
>Proceeds to implode in self-pity
Rumao

>> No.20204405

>>20204320
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU
kek does vshojo really?

>> No.20204470

it goes way beyond that
>overlevel to a ridiculous degree
>refuse to level the one stat that would give you a crutch
>look up which is the broken overused weapon all the invaders abuse
>still suck, barely beating mid level bosses that you're obviously too strong for
>all the while having a cheeky 'bosses beaten today' counter at the bottom
>cant handle people poking fun at your obvious suckage

>> No.20204520

So what? He's gonna take a break because of mental stress again?

>> No.20204593

So glad the HoloENs aren't like this. That's something they have going for them at least.

>> No.20204683

>>20204520
wouldn't surprise me at all if he had another mental breakdown from this.

>> No.20204822

>>20204320
has he tried gitting gud

>> No.20204912

>>20204470
kek that's fucking pathetic holy shit.

>> No.20204939

>>20204593
Ame doesn't whine about it on twitter but she's also terrible when it comes to dealing with being bad at a game.
She tries something, fails, rages, and then tries again without trying to stop and consider why she failed in the first place.
Repeat until rage quit.
Ever watched her Super Mario Sunshine or Getting over it streams?
Unwatchable.
Kiara can be similarly stubborn. She doesn't rage like Ame, but she's similar in that she sometimes just brute forces her way through challenges without learning a single thing from it.

>> No.20205003

What a fucking crybaby.

>> No.20205427

>>20204939
Being bad, single-minded and refusing to learn is one thing but this is about response to fan feedback. The only instance I can think of where Ame gave up due to fan interference was The Witcher, correct me if I'm wrong.

>> No.20206316

>>20204320
>>20204470
Holy shit what a little crybaby bitch. Were his tweets already protected before this? If they weren't and he had a mental breakdown from this causing him to protect his tweets I'm going to laugh my ass off.

>> No.20206400

Where are the clips and vods? God I hate twitch.

>> No.20206452

>had to

>> No.20206487

>>20204939
Don't be delusional. Ame rages only in her own stream but Kiara whines in collab too which is unbearable.

>> No.20206638

>>20206487
Go watch more Kiara collabs please, she pretended to be sore loser so everyone could laugh.

>> No.20206659

>>20204470
He deserves this

>> No.20206700

>>20204320
Going with the shit flow, eh?
1-2 moderators would do the job.

>> No.20206733

>>20206638
This is what KFPkeks believe

>> No.20206763

>>20204470
So he's the type of player that invades at lvl 150 but for some god awful reason has sub 1k hp and gets one shot? What a retard.

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>>20204320
>Streaming your virgin Elden Ring run

It's like you want a good experience ruined, do these streamers dip new ice-cream brand in shit too before tasting it?

Is the early clout really worth that?

>> No.20207838

You faggots say this like that id whore hana didn't do the exact same thing when she played terraria

>> No.20207872
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>> No.20207924

>>20207838
She's shit as well then.

>> No.20211691

>>20204320
Will he off himself this time?

>> No.20211807

>>20211691
I’d give it a 51% attempt but 1% success

>> No.20212135

>>20207838
Terraria has actual cancerous backseaters tho, the chat suggesting how to fix your build is not the same as the chat trying to play for you

>> No.20212209

>>20204320
Why are streamers of all kinds (western, nip vtuber or not) so absolutely thin-skinned that they can't take people criticizing their gameplay? If you're shit and doing retarded things you will get called out, especially if you play a game like this. Stick to fucking VNs, stupid TTS tranny

>> No.20212316

>>20212209
To be fair backseating is incredibly annoying, but it could be easily solved if they weren't afraid of telling their chat to shut the fuck up

>> No.20212614

>>20212316
lolno, you shut the fuck up and take it. chimping out is a real twitch nigger moment ala ame. no wonder, because she was a 2view twitchnigger before joining holo

>> No.20212716

>>20204320
This situation makes me think Zen is actually a girl. Next level emotional fragility

>> No.20212966

>>20207838
Hana is a vshoujo tier ethot.

>> No.20213017

>>20212716
Trannies aren't exactly known for stoicism.

>> No.20213036

>>20212614
ame still is a 2view fag

>> No.20213096

Funny thing is if you go to a holo's stream there is of course back seaters but just as many people going "don't give up!" "you got this!"
Streamers really just focus too hard on the negative comments

>> No.20213161

>>20204320
Why are you like this
go play the game yourself

>> No.20213206

>>20213017
the rrats keep evolving. first a man vtubing as a girl and now a full on tranny

>> No.20213250

>>20213206
i saw someone say it was a couple where one person plays and the other types the tts

>> No.20213426

>>20213250
it has to be
otherwise a one man operation with VTS is too error prone

>> No.20213934

>>20206487
She whines about ping in Apex collabs

>> No.20214087

>>20213426
Works for nora kyatto
By works I mean the mistakes often make everything funnier

>> No.20216045

>>20213096
that's how humans work

>> No.20216108

>>20212316
>Tell chat to shut the fuck up
>They know it bugs you now so they double down
It's like you've never even been on 4chan before.

>> No.20216990

Does everyone assume she is a guy, tranny or two different persons because of the tts or is there evidence or something.
I have noticed that she has personality swing firm one stream to another but didn't think about it much.

Not that it matters just interested.

>> No.20217679

>>20207068
It's their job, retard.

>> No.20219773

>>20216990
>she

>> No.20220298

>Was that people interacting with me!?
>NOOOOOOOOOOO I'M GOING INSANE!!!

>> No.20220800

>>20204320
Does Vshojo not have monetization on their ER streams like Hololive, or is different because Twitch can gift subs instead of bits and actual cash?

>> No.20221015

>>20216990
We know it's a guy because the dumbass did a "face reveal" stream and had his gf pretend to be Zen but didn't bother to tell her any of the streams in jokes. All the while the dumb fuck was in the background being "Zen's bf" who just happens to understand all the jokes.

>> No.20221759

Why is it bad to "overlevel"? If you explore every nook and cranny of the map wouldnt you naturally be overleveled?

>> No.20222283

>>20221759
It's not that overleveling is bad, it's just you have no excuse to suck so hard if you are so much higher than the 'expected' level for a zone. You should be able to steamroll.

>> No.20222383

>>20204320
>dude
It's definitely a man....... Yikes

>> No.20222411

zen should man up and learn to take criticism

>> No.20222427

Is this new drama, or just a rrat because of backseatfags?

>> No.20222520

>>20221759
It's definitely a problem though, I explored and co-oped too much and now I'm level 108 and haven't even started leyendell, and I'm chunking bosses for 5% of their hp per swing to the point they're not that challenging anymore
But then again I'm using bloodhound step so lol

>> No.20222541

>>20221015
No way this is real. You kidding me?

>> No.20222548

>>20220800
hololive asks for permission, and they sign a contract saying they won't monetize. twitch streamers just stream the game without asking.

>> No.20222591

>>20221759
It’s not inherently bad. It’s a legitimate playstyle. If you just keep playing and playing and playing, and enjoying yourself, you’ll end up overlevelled. Unless you’re a souls veteran who has some sense of how to nerf yourself for an arbitrary challenge. But a newbie running around the world can end up being pretty op when they return to early areas. I didn’t know that the Weeping Peninsula existed, and I just destroyed everything in it when I returned later in the game.

>> No.20222597

>>20204320
If you unironically backseat, you're pathetic.

>> No.20222661

>>20204593
Ina never finished HL2 because of some faggots in the chat. But she didnt have a menhera breakdown on twitter afterwards like that guy

>> No.20222746

>>20204320
You also called Zentreya a man in the chat (regardless of the truth of the roommate the character isn't a man), directly insulted Zen's intelligence for hot listening to your advice after you were asked to stop backseating, and spammed your advice via VTT readout.
Not saying Zen isn't overreacting. Zen is totally overreacting. Zen is the most mentally ill of all of Vshojo. But you're not some innocent little bunny who tried to help. You were an obnoxious shitstain.

>> No.20222789

>>20222597
Nothing wrong with backseating if you’re giving them information rather than instructions. Things like:
>The boss is weak to lightning
>You have a charge combo you haven’t discovered
>That spell you’re using can be spammed multiple times, you don’t have to wait for each cast
Are all useful.

I’ve watched the myth girls play, and it’s never members or regulars being dipshits. It’s always some ESL seanig and Greyname who pops in to scream demands. It’s not like anyone can wrangle these people, because they’re not ‘chat’, they’re tourists.

>> No.20222826

>>20222427
What rrat? He’s a crybaby drama queen, and we’re just making fun of him. Fucking thousands of streamers playing this game every day but he’s one of the few to have a breakdown over it. If Ame or Selen went to twitter to whine about backseating while being bad at the game, we’d have threads about that too.

>> No.20222834

>>20222789
>90% of the users in the chat aren't "chat", only my little secret club matters

>> No.20222838

Soulfags have always been the pinnacle of "you are doing it wrong bro", alongside minecraft autists. The best approach is to just ignore or troll them back.

>> No.20222859

>>20222834
t. SEAnigger
Have you tried being less retarded?

>> No.20222869

Struth though, people telling you how to level stats is the worst.
Even for myself, after hearing about 'optimal builds', it always nags my brain because I don't give a shit yet it's still there nagging me.

>> No.20222920

>>20204320
Why are you people like this?

>> No.20222924

>>20222834
>90%
Muhammad Hidayat Taufiq bagalaboobie making up numbers to be mad at?

>> No.20222995

>>20222869
For real. I got people bugging me because strength sucks in ER but I don't give a fuck. I wanna play the game as a dude swinging a giant fucking sword

>> No.20223045

>>20222789
>Nothing wrong with backseating if you’re giving them information
Discovery is a major component of the experience of these games and by spoiling things like this you are actively diminishing their experience.

>> No.20223057

If you need to min/max stats to play soulsborne, you fucking suck desu.

>but muh pvp
A cancer on the game.

>> No.20223066

>>20204320
>He's a baby who breaks down and cries because of "backseating"
What a fucking loser.

>> No.20223081

>>20206733
anonchama...she's just trying to make content, since if it wasn't for her all the holoEN collabs would be staring contests...

>> No.20223104

>>20212209
Imagine having hundreds of people calling you shit and criticizing you constantly. I'd call them out on their bullshit too.

>> No.20223113
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>>20204320
Everyone had a friend like this growing up.
>Dude, give me the controller I'll show you how to do it
>NO! FUCK OFF! REEEEEE!!

>> No.20223140

>>20204320
>Complaining about back seating
They're not complaining about people who are back seating.
They're complaining because they know that they are performing terribly at the game. They're becoming self conscious about that fact.
Chat's throwing out tips or advice is what sets them off and reduces them to a miserable pile of tears. That is because chat's action is validating one simple fact.
They're bad at the game.
And they cannot cope.
Someone with hundreds of viewers and followers can't handle being bad at a game when their audience will watch them no matter what.
I fucking hate big streamers so much.

>> No.20223180

>>20222838
If you're playing sub optimally then you deserve ridicule. Simple as that.

>> No.20223192

>>20204320
backseating is absolutely super fucking lame. just let the streamers make mistakes, it's funnier that way. if you want to min max and get a perfect playthrough, play the games yourself instead of depriving someone from a unique experience.

>> No.20223202

>>20223140
2view fag?

>> No.20223224

>>20223140
This.
Watching them having a melty welty over back seating is fucking embarassing.

>> No.20223264

This is why Sekiro is the best Fromsoft game, no nagging on not having the optimal build or being overleveled, the only criticism you can really give is to git gud. Many soulsfags hate Sekiro because they cant cheese bosses with builds.

>> No.20223269

>>20222995
Yeah
>no, don't level this stat past this level
>this stat has a soft cap here and a hard cap here
>level this stat over this stat because of deminishing returns

It's really no way to play a game, it's more like bloody work.

>> No.20223359

>>20223192
its the streamers fault for letting backseaters get to them and go on a victim tantrum blaming everyone because their feelings hurt
if you cant deal with your chat, dont bother streaming

>> No.20223390

>>20223192
Or you can help them play properly and beat the game in thirty minutes

>> No.20223422

>>20223390
Speedrunning is cancer.

>> No.20223449

>>20223422
Sounds like you can't get good.

>> No.20223458

>>20223359
JP chat doesn't back seat.
Foreigners just can't hold themselves back. Desperate for approval or some shit. Especially SEAniggers and Americans.

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>>20204320
Use more vigor? More like stop being a nigger!

>> No.20223503

>>20223390
Did you even learn it yourself or did you just read a guide?
Only smoothbrains need guides. For stats or otherwise.

>> No.20223556

>>20223503
>He is incapable of learning like a normal human being

>> No.20223566

Souls games suck anyways
>>20223264
unironically this
No levels
Leveling Damage/HP in the long run does jack shit
The first REAL casual filter you can reach in an hour and spend like 3-4 doing a 3 minute fight over and over again

>> No.20223629

>>20223556
This level of reading comprehension; yeah, you're a SEAnigger.

>> No.20223645

>>20204320
Don’t watch zen so don’t know anything about the criticism levied here, but souls backseaters are absolutely shit tier viewers and deserve to be muted, timed out, and banned if they demonstrate an inability to let the chuuba suck at the game in peace.

>> No.20223697

>>20223629
>He has buzzword living rent free
Yeah, you really are stupid. Expecting you to have an average intelligence was a mistake on my part.

>> No.20223735

>>20206487
monopoly?

>> No.20223799

Base on the fact that there are 2-3 threads about Zen in Elden ring topic
With most of the comments being hateful.
I see that it's not about just 'Vigor' as stated
And You wonder why She privated twitter.

>> No.20223804

>>20204320
>wahh wahh wahh
Crybaby bitch. Just tell your chat to stop backseating and tell your mods to clean up backseaters. It's not hard. Dumb cunt. Cunt.

>> No.20223847

>>20223799
he privated twitter because he couldn't handle getting called out on his bullshit.

>> No.20223867

>>20223697
I don't even know what you're trying to say; your English is so bad.

>> No.20223875

>>20212209
It's probably not backseating per se so much as a bit of autism or something, plus the usual chat lag, that makes it so that not every streamer can wade through the fucking textwall of advice (not all of which is good) to figure out what they're actually supposed to do.

Kind of like how newfags here always start the same threads asking the same shit over and over again. It's not that they can't read, it's that they can't read AND that this board is filled with schizos making up bullshit rats, so some people can't tell what's real and fake.

This is probably why some vtubers can't take backseating. It's why the few times Mumei allowed backseating, she told chat to wait for her to count down to zero and then tell her all at once what to do.

>> No.20223909

>>20223867
Not being able to understand english sounds like a major personal problem on your part. Maybe you should go study for a few more years before coming back.

>> No.20224006

>>20204320
>All we said was use more vigor...
How fucking dare you.

>> No.20224047

impressive how much western vtubers shit on or get angry at their fans and they still whiteknight for them

>> No.20224050

>>20204320
I mean the Dark Souls Community is pretty much MOBA tier cancer in either case

>> No.20224074

>>20223799
its already stablished that he is an emotional wreck and meltsdown at the slightiest hint of social pressure. People already checked the vods and this "toxic" backseating was just people saying the usual stuff like "dode to the side instead of backwards" and stuff like that.
This isnt the first time this vtuber goes on a twitter lock because he cant figure out how to deal with his stream.

Last time it was because he was taking time off due to mental health, pretty normal stuff, am i rite.

>> No.20224088

>>20224050
Get good. It's easy. There is a wealth of information on the game out there for people to use in order to learn to play the game better.

>> No.20224095

>>20212316
Korone did it the best with the Stoplight and then Punched in face of a Listener-san as a "Kindly fuck off" sign.

>> No.20224096

Would it kill streamers to take literally anything like an adult for once? You don't have to have a meltie every time something happens on the internet, just ignore it

>> No.20224139

>>20224088
And you're proving my point!

>> No.20224143

>>20224095
What else would you expect from a literal child like Korone?

>> No.20224186

>>20224088
People who get mad at others who try to help are the people who flat out REFUSE to learn. They'd rather just spin their wheels and throw tantrums instead of putting in a bit of work.

>> No.20224219

>>20224143
Except Korone doing it made people laugh at it.
It was a memorably amusing moment that she'd bust out her art skills midstream and draw that!

>> No.20224241

>>20224186
Yeah, so shut the fuck up and let them do that.

>> No.20224300

>>20204320
I'm dropping you from today on tranny, didn't need to hear your whining on Twatter.

>> No.20224308

>>20223909
Any further study would be for nought as I have already attained the utmost profiency in abilities to deduce meanings and produce script in regards to the language of the Anglo-Saxons.
Henceforth, I shan't hear nary a word coming forth from thy mouth which will lead me to shy in my confidence, of which I am permitted to exert by decree Teachers of who taught me.

Hark, I say unto thee: thy presence is of utmost redicule and thou shalt, of utmost haste, remove thyself from this mortal coil.

'The lip of truth shall be steadfast for ever: but he that is a hasty witness, frameth a lying tongue'.
- Proverbs 12:19

>> No.20224340

>>20223875
one time I saw a streamer offer a keyword when they actually asked for backseat/advice.
For example, she'd asked for help with a specific situation and if you had a response relevant to it, you include the keyword with it. Next time she asked she say to use a different keyword.
I think ame did it once.

I've rarely if not ever seen employed otherwise, I wonder if it's just too much hassle to do that all the time.

>> No.20224341

>>20224096
>JP vtuber
>Ignores most comments, reads good comments aloud, people stop trying to shitpost since streamer never pays attention to it

>West vtuber
>Ignores all positive comments, fixates on the 1% shitty comment passing by on chat out of the entire stream and proceeds to meltdown over it, locks twitter, blames the community, gives the shitposters posting garbage on the chat the victory since their shitposting worked

great job buddy

>> No.20224375

>>20213934
Just say you don't watch her anon. The ping thing is obviously a meme at this point. Not funny anymore, but not actual rage.

>> No.20224387

>>20224186
Although there are people who are giving advice and not listening to the person asking for the advice. Like giving someone hyper optimized advice when they don't know what half of that even means or that said hyper optimized build has a built in skill requirement which new players simply don't have.

>> No.20224459

>>20222427
A new crop of people hearing the TTS and immediately going "it's a transgender person I can harass and get to commit suicide using the wrong pronouns"

>> No.20224562

>>20204320
kek, if this was a Holo you'd all be screaming at the backseaters

>> No.20224581

>>20224459
Anon. I get the sentiment but you really should not have Said the last part. You will get a bunch of (you)s from it

>> No.20224603

>>20224459
>wrong pronouns
no one knows his gender and he has no pronouns listed on twitter, so by all metrics he is whatever

>> No.20224646

>>20204320
>"I don't care if it's a guy"
>"I watch it because I like the Zentreya persona"

Pretty gay desu

>> No.20224707

>>20224562
I would be cheering on the backseaters

>> No.20224715

>>20204939
One of the reasons I stopped watching her game streams, she just refuses to learn, wtf

>> No.20224774

>>20224095
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HObafZFb738

Doog has many lessons the ENwhores can learn from.

>> No.20224781

>>20205427
iirc she had to take a step away from her outer wilds dlc because of backseaters. She didnt say anything but she put up the brb screen and came back when her live viewers were sub 2k kek

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>>20204320
GIT GUD FAGGOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp28JPs25ek&ab_channel=ThePruld

>> No.20224902

>>20224774
>She really is a child
And i thought it was just anti's getting uppity

>> No.20225122

>>20224876
based selenfag

>> No.20225128

Reading that tweet and realizing it's a dude makes it way more unbearable. like, suck it up dude it was probably only a few actually backseating

>> No.20225197

dont really care about vwhorejo dramashit but I just wanna say that I kinda do fucking hate how much vigor you need in Elden Ring like holy shit

>> No.20225203

>>20223735
>Joke about game ruining friendships
>Use the absolute worst possible strategy (monopoly on green)
>Start losing, whine your way out of bankruptcy
>Get mad at Gura when it happened to be one of her properties that finally fries her chicken a little while later
>Convince the other players to team up on Gura even though she's not even that far ahead of the pack
I'm pretty sure the stream was her idea in the first place and she still decided to ruin it.

>> No.20225355

>>20225203
>Convince the other players to team up on Gura even though she's not even that far ahead of the pack
Absolutely a valid strat, you're supposed to claw at whoever's closest to reaching monopoly.

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>>20224581

>> No.20225596

>>20204320
>having a mental breakdown over a fucking game
A good game, too, what a fucking tool LOOOOOOOL

>> No.20225708

>>20222283
That's not really how these games function though. You still need to dodge and hit properly to not get curbstomped, you just need 2 hits less to kill a boss

>> No.20225886

>>20225708
Except people on the internet told me that you're not allowed to dodge in dark souls. You're supposed to stand there and let the enemy smash you flat.

>> No.20226525

>>20204320
Why is this literal tranny always such a fucking drama queen?

>> No.20226584

>>20226525
you answered your own question.

>> No.20228069

>>20224341
>>JP vtuber
>>Ignores most comments, reads good comments aloud, people stop trying to shitpost since streamer never pays attention to it
Have you started following vtuber like, last week?

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>>20204320
Tbh From games do always have an obnoxious amount of backseating retards. It's even worse when the backseaters keep screaming despite being wrong. It's cancer, and I do wish they'd just let the streamers explore and try things out on their own.
I'm glad Ina only allowed people who have been subscribed for at least 7 days to use chat on the most recent stream, but it didn't fix the problem completely.

>> No.20228638

>>20204470
wtf, I thought males were supposed to be good at games.

>> No.20228699

>>20204593
They might feel the same way, but they have more class than to go cry to the Twitter mobs.

>> No.20228855

This is why I just don't watch any of these elden ring streams. I hate backseaters, I'd never backseat, but goddamn is it frustrating to watch someone mash their head at a brick wall for 3 hours and change nothing up. I love ER but watching it just is not for me.

>> No.20229247

>>20204520
he will try to 41% himself and fail

>> No.20229371

>>20226525
Because they expected to be coddled and patronized by society for being stunning and brave.

>> No.20229517

>>20204320
I can't believe the level of backseating in elden ring streams. Were soulsfags always so obnoxious?
They clearly know the game, so how the fuck do they not understand that the main joy lies in beating it in your own way? Even shitty builds result in amazing journey. What's the point of watching someone play it in the same way? What happaned to fashion souls?
I'm too old.

>> No.20229729

>>20207838
Hana killed her momentum long time ago with shit like that

>> No.20229905

>>20224774
This is what it means when people say the audience reflects the streamer. Its your #1 job as a chuuba to control your audience, you can't bitch and moan about how bad chat is if you don't do anything about it. Good dog.

>> No.20229933

>>20207872
Why didn't (You) save her?

>> No.20229974

>>20204320
Chat get really annoying specially in exploration or rpg games

>> No.20230051

>>20224715
She refused to do the tutorial on ER for no reason and this made the backseat even worse

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>> No.20230201

>>20204320
holofags making fun of it on twitter while if the same happened to one of their holos(it has happened more than once in past) they wouldn't shut up about the evuls of backseating

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>>20230165
literally

>> No.20230240

>>20230165
>/vt/ hates zen so much that they schizoposted her back into playing ER
The trolling soulsfags arc will be glorious content

>> No.20230293

>>20224781
based

>> No.20230414

>>20207838
No one cares about Hana anymore

>> No.20230530

>>20204320
Why is he acting like a woman

>> No.20230618

>>20204939
>Kiara can be similarly stubborn
One of the few streams I watched from her was a minecraft stream where she was having some computer issue likely a misconfiguration and she was nearly in tears before she rage quit the stream it was a while back, is she still like that?

>> No.20230623

>>20230201
>if the same happened to one of their holos
Kiara got annoyed by Elden Ring backseating so she told chat to tone it down and temporarily banned the word "roll" for one stream. It solved the problem instantly. That's how a pro handles it.

>> No.20230657

>>20204320
>wasting souls on vigor
>getting hit in a souls game
ngmi...

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>>20204320
>make a huge fucking fuss of it on stream and on twitter
>garner sympathy points
>go RIGHT back to playing it the next day on stream

>> No.20230729

>>20230657
>t. man who's never picked up a controller in his life

>> No.20230749

>>20230623
Don't like this bird but I do respect her. That's listener control.

>> No.20230788

>>20207068
>women
>caring about the "experience" a non-linear video game that isn't a walking movie simulator can give you
>much less the lore
Anon. Stop.

>> No.20230839

>>20204939
#AmeWay

>> No.20230894

>>20228638
Trannies are low test betas.
Usually these are the "girls" in a gaming community who are better than actual girls but below average. Also complainers who think pretending to be a girl gives them privileges.
Kinda funny how this proves not only they are not a girl but also pathetic losers.

>> No.20230921

>>20230729
Beat the game using a controller, the giant red hammer, and nothing but strength and endurance leveled. Gir gud, tranny.

>> No.20232092

>>20224219
I definitely admire people who can turn their seething into an entertaining bit, whether it’s an actual menhera moment or not. Astel drawing a diagram to call out a guy on twitter was super based.

>> No.20232100

>>20223113
>Dude, give me the controller I'll show you how to do it
Yeah, that little shit was so annoying.

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>>20230894
She'll beat your ass in any fighting game

>> No.20232386

>>20204939
the post is about the twitter whining. everyone does rage.

>> No.20232396

>>20230894
I still don't understand how this "Zen's pinkpilled" rrat started. We have babinikus collabing with Hololive members semi-consistently by Holo's standards, nobodies out here saying this shit for Tomari outside of the "every lolicon ojiisan wants to be a loli slut as much as he wants to own one" angle.

Fucking hell, there's even people like Fairys whose spent a literal decade honing a female voice and he's still pretty firm in his masculinity.

>> No.20232431

>>20206638
>she thinks everyone laughs about it.
kek cope

>> No.20232693

>>20230240
>Her

>> No.20233097

>>20230723
It wasn't even a day after, its was a few hours after.

I think its bait to get more viewers, since all the uwu you're perfect fans are gonna try to come to support and erase all the hate, while it makes trolls attracted to it since they know they can fuck with him mentally, and then even this thread being made is publicity.

>> No.20233646

>>20230165
Yaaas

>> No.20233803

>>20232164
fighting games actually has a lot of decently high level trannies, i guess its kinda like speed runners, the autism to master hard games brain fucks you into wanting to become a woman

>> No.20233870

>>20204320
I am buying the rrat that she is really a tranny, a healthy average male wouldn't that hypersensitive

>> No.20234054

>>20222661
She did finish HL2, clipwatcher.

>> No.20234170

>>20233870
About time.

>> No.20234176

>>20230618
No she is in q better spot mentally now. Back then she had so much shit on her plate I'm not even surprised that shit made her cry

>> No.20234373

>>20230623
Not only that, she kept pausing randomly during the most recent stream to tell stories of her trip and had the greys all scrambling to play the game. About 1k people left and then she continued playing. That shit was on purpose, filtering out the soulsfags.

>> No.20234626

>>20230165
>I got my fair share of attention now let's go back to normal
It's amazing how many times Zen repeats the same schizo circle

>> No.20234700

>>20232164
Fuck that's actually a really good cow design, too bad

>> No.20234711

>>20230788
>>women

>> No.20234739

>>20234176
>discord conversations to coordinate things between coworkers and play video games while talking to yourself for a few hours every day or so
How any of them manage to hold things together is beyond me. The mental fortitude of these women is honestly mind-blowing.

>> No.20234764

>>20233097
pretty much. This one cant attach themselves to 3D e-celeb men like half of other vShojo so they are trying to incline in their own way

>> No.20234795

>>20234711
There is no hard proof on the roommate rrat, the character is female, and the performer acts like a hysterical woman.

>> No.20234801

>>20234054
Hmm i only saw the first 2 parts, guess i know what im watching

>> No.20234808

>>20230623
>banned the word "roll"
Kek
Streamers have so many chances to be based but so few take them

>> No.20234872

>>20232396
Babinikus are not a western thing.
They skip the "pretending" to the demand to be called MA'AM

>> No.20234879

>>20234795
>the character is female
Considering that was his answer when asked if he was male or female it's safe to assume the roommate's a guy

>> No.20234961

>>20230201
Name one (1) Holo who quit playing a game and privated her twitter because she couldn't handle backseating.

>> No.20235061

>>20234879
Oh, I believe whole-heartedly that the character of Zen went to the boyfriend in the breakup, but there is no hard proof. So constantly sperging out about people who aren't doxxniggers or former members of the ALA chat group is almost as retarded as how Zen acts when anything goes even halfway wrong.

>> No.20235169

>>20204320
I wouldn’t mind getting backseated. As long as they are no elitists and gatekeeping faggots.

>> No.20236708

>>20234872
>Babinikus are not a western thing.
This

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>>20204320
>>20230165
Lol, she deleted the tweet.

>> No.20237481

>>20225708
feels like i die much faster in this game than ds3 or bb even. no point in levelling vigor if i get two shotted anyway just the difference being with one hit doing 95% of my hp or 60%

>> No.20237529

>>20204320
I heard this one is a tranny. Makes sense they would get triggered about fucking backseat.

>> No.20237732

>>20204320
He should be thankful, chat made him drop a boring ass games. Fucking schizo dragon

>> No.20238266

>>20224088
anon get good is not constructive, "just do it 4head" wont get people to actually be good at the game.
also needing to look up external info is a fault of the games design, if you need to do that youre only saving yourself time and effort, not becoming good at the game.
>>20224186
yeah almost as if forcing something on them causes people to be repulsed.
>>20224341
all human notice negatives more than positives thats how our brains work, even the JPs.
jp just dont voice their dislike as often because of social pressure and what not.
>>20224387
its basically like telling someone to build a rocket when they dont even know how screws work, they need to learn the steps to get to the rocket before they can build a rocket
>>20229371
anon you and the anti-trannies prove that they arent coddled, though they are patronized by both fellow trannies and pro and anti-trannies.
>>20234872
youre correct its not really a thing in the west but kayfabe is kayfabe, you wouldnt call your oshi what theyre not portraying themselves as would you?
>>20237481
i mean it doing 60 means you can probably heal and survive another hit where as 95 means you wont be able to heal.

>> No.20238374

>>20234626
Didn't this guy have a mental breakdown and go radio silent for a month? Seems to have some serious issues with venting shit on twitter.

>> No.20238530

>>20238266
That's how it would be in the other games but in this one sip heals my entire health bar lmao. Its so fucking strong for some reason. The game design is out of whack in some places.

>> No.20238562

>>20232092
Astel didn't let it eat away at him either, that same guy played with him yesterday during his viewer participation Apex.

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>>20204593

>> No.20238848

>>20234739
Women are very good at having breakdowns and then temporarily being immune to further problems. It literally resets their stress, busted tech honestly.

>> No.20239014

>>20223045
It heavily depends on the person. But there's a difference between not finding the lightning reflect scroll in Sekiro, and you just straight up not knowing about a mechanic that isn't mentioned anywhere.

>> No.20239064

>>20216990
Wait
What you mean by TTS?
Does this vtuber types in a robot what (s)he wants to say? I refuse to believe it.

>> No.20239127

>>20224308
>two native english speakers, likely both from america, calling eachother ESL and SEAnigger because it's the in word right now
God, I hate collective consciousness.

>> No.20239376

>>20239064
That's exactly how bad it is.

>> No.20239444

>>20239064
it would be hard to type and play games at the same time so it's either some voice recognition or they get someone else to type what they say

>> No.20239700

>>20239444
"They" refers to a plural and not neutral, btw. And it's a "he" btw.

>> No.20239861

>>20239700
>"They" refers to a plural and not neutral, btw.
They as a singular obscured gender has a literally history as old as "he or she", and over 200 years older than the neutered he.
>And it's a "he" btw.
Speculation, no matter how likely, is not proof.

>> No.20239868

>>20222789
All parts of a game is part of that game.
Learning and figuring out how things work is part of a game.
Knowledge is a skill when applied.

That is 100% spoilers and backseating.

>> No.20239934

>>20222789
The moment the person asked you to stop, you were in the wrong for still doing it regardless of how much you think you were helping.

>> No.20240391

>>20239861
>obscured gender
No such thing exists. Seek help.

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>>20234872
>Babinikus are not a western thing.

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>>20230894
I thought they sold their dicks to the devil for speedrunning power.
Did Zentreya do it for free?

>> No.20240506

>>20239861
His girlfriend helps him stream, came on the mic for a “voice reveal” pre vshojo where she fucked up a couple times posing as “him”.

>> No.20240585

>>20239700
>TRANNYSTRANNYSTRANNYS
my post literally had nothing to do with that please seek help

>> No.20240595

>>20240391
I think anon was trying to say "using they in reference to someone who is a he/she is pretty common" which is completely true because English is pretty fucking weird like that.

At least until he stumbled over himself like a total faggot and assumed the former mutie ERPer with overly sized titty models is, in fact, not just a dude trying to live out his amazonian russian GF fantasies like how (you) do with basically every MMO character you've ever made in games where most of the races are hot. The difference being he took the "will be GF for 25gp" thing way too seriously and missed his chance to get off of that train.

>> No.20240687

>>20232396
Holy shit tomari is a faggot.

>> No.20240714

>>20204320
Trannys gonna tran

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>>20240687
wait until you hear about mag "if i woke up one day as a girl i would have an orgy with all of my mangaka friends without hesitation" rona
boys make the best sluts

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>puts two points into strength
Yosh!
>dies against Godrick for four hours
Yabai taro...
>beats Godrick
>puts two more points into strength
Yosh!

>> No.20240869

>>20213206
>now a full on tranny
How else do you explain a man role playing a woman?

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>>20240869
>he says when the patron saint of this website was literally gay for pay

>> No.20241051

>>20241002
Moot or linetrap?

>> No.20241112

>>20241051
Both of which admit they're dudes, unlike zentranny

>> No.20241115

>>20240774
Pretty sure Noel just wants to unga bunga big mace as much as she can of her playthrough.

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>>20240869
Probably because male vtubers had no audiences by that point and he managed to capitalize on a niche that no westerners knew existed, and didn't wanna change off of that for fear of losing money. Nearly transparent hustling like that is the only respectable thing his entire shitshow of a company has done, can't even be mad about it.

>> No.20241163

>>20241115
Otsumuscle!

>> No.20241187

>>20240774
How the hell is Noel so based and autistic at the same time?

>> No.20241235

>>20241112
do... do you know who linetrap even is?

>> No.20241244

>>20241154
>Nearly transparent hustling like that is the only respectable thing his entire shitshow of a company has done, can't even be mad about it.
You're not wrong.

>> No.20241296

>>20241235
https://youtu.be/ggwkg_IgdPc
See you at pride, faggot

>> No.20241546

>>20241051
I was mostly talking about Aniki, but you've got a point since there's really nothing gayer than working for google.

>> No.20241584

>>20241546
Wasn't he let off from google?

>> No.20241628

>>20241584
No idea, I stopped taking any info for granted after that one meme news report on how he was a cunnysseur.

>> No.20241656

>>20241154
Done more good then holoshit so don’t know what you’re on about

>> No.20241944

>>20240398
The babiniku culture still doesn't exist in VRchat.

>> No.20241999

>>20241656
Such as?

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>>20241944

>> No.20242124

>>20242015
Can you post something of actual relevance?

>> No.20242127

>>20241999
Charitys, helping the community, giving more exposure to the vtuber community, collabs, actual entertaining streams, potentially getting rid of mori for you guys very soon

>> No.20242197

>>20242124
anon... your PL reps...

>> No.20242244

>>20224781
>Ame.
>Gives a fuck about viewers.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/w4auNHelA-k

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>>20241656
>>20242127

>> No.20242276

>>20242015
kek

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>>20242127
>vshojo
>actual entertaining streams

>> No.20242367

>>20242254
>reptilian to her left

>> No.20242370

>>20242127
Only one I’ll agree to being beneficial is that last one, although it’s unlikely to happen.

>> No.20242383

>>20224781
What a bitch

>> No.20242396

>>20241944
The babiniku culture exists more strongly in VRChat than it does in Japan ironically. The biggest names on Twitch used to go on VRChat and pretend to be girls, and muties are still a thing to this day. And only three out of the 30+ who've done a "voice reveal" were actually girls.

>> No.20242468

>>20242370
>literally saving lives with charity
>not beneficial
Why are holosharts like this?

>> No.20242540

Why are people saying that nobody in Hololive has done a charity when Ame exists

>> No.20242542

>>20224781
>>20242244
This makes me want to anti her. This is such an entitled bitch move

>> No.20242617

>>20242321
hey at least they an stream
>back hurty let me take a month off

>> No.20242619

>>20242542
>>20242383
t. space gosling

>> No.20242769

>>20242617
ProjektMelody did this word-for-word by the way. Implied she couldn't stream due to a severe back injury leading to surgery from falling out of her shower, only to then two weeks later laugh at her fans for thinking she had a severe back injury leading to surgery.
At least the retards in HoloEN don't go back on their lies.

>> No.20242888

>>20230165
hes bipolar

anyway, I dislike the troon but s/hes right about fromdrones, they literally cannot shut up about parrying. If I was a streamer I would have an autobanner that banned anyone who said parry or git gud

>> No.20243620

>>20240774
Grugbrain Noel is my kind of girl.

>> No.20243897

>>20204320
Good the last thing I want is fucking crybabies playing the game.

>> No.20244260

>>20238374
yes and it was literally because people don't like to collab with him, I wonder fucking why

>> No.20244417

>>20244260
Specifically more popular people, because a lot of smaller accounts were quick to comment.

>> No.20244581

>>20244417
So he's the worst type, a leech only after bigger streamer collabs.
Collabing with smaller people would work wonders for his reputation, makes him look good in the public eye instead of this sperging out on twitter garbage he does every week.

>> No.20244779

>>20242244
>>20224781
Aleast she did not decide to lock half her playthrough behind a membership wall

>> No.20244924

>>20204320
Maybe trannie girls really are girls after all. Men don't do this shit.

>> No.20244984

>>20244779
Someone locked part of a playthrough behind membership?

>> No.20245159

>>20222746
>Say they aren't mentally ill
>Act constantly mentally ill
>Usually have other co-morbid metal illnesses
Do trannies really

>> No.20245161

You know for sure fi this happened to a holoshiter their cuck of a fanbase wouldn’t shut up about it and probably dox whoever does

>> No.20245776

I don't watch this guy, just wanted to say backseaters are the biggest faggots in a chat.

>> No.20248582

>>20244260
And this was promptly either preceded by or followed by going on "temporary break from Vshojo activities".
Anytime anyone tries to tell you Vshojo deserves a place in the vtubing world, you can tell them about how Zentreya was warmly welcomed back into their fold after publicly quitting for weeks, or alternatively never actually left and it was just a menhera fit. Both of which are key tellings of a company that's too retarded to live.

>> No.20249978

>>20204470
Is there a compilations of him being shit?

>> No.20250156

>>20249978
His entire stream.

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>>20216990
What's your gut telling you?

>> No.20250815

>>20242254
anon do you have just the gif of Pomu? i lost it

>> No.20251024

>>20206700
This. Literally just have your mods time out or ban a bunch of backseaters every hour or so and people will naturally stop backseatkng out of fear of getting banned. Adding it to your stream tags and chat rules also helps.

>> No.20251187

>>20250697
>im the most unique!
The only thing unique is that he uses TTS which is a debuff, not a positive to be proud of.

>> No.20251283

>>20204320
I will translate
>I wanted to capitalize on fotm. but I suck ass at this game and hate it. someone in the chat said git gud so that is the excuse I'm using.

>> No.20251583

>>20222591
I destroyed the Weeping Peninsula the moment I got a +1 unique weapon, that whole area almost feels weaker than Limgrave

>> No.20251915

>>20251583
I explore with full autism so every area feels just the right amount of challenge because I don't like the feeling of coming back to a low area. I play all of the souls game so I can gauge if an area is the "right" place to be by now.
Weeping Peninsula is meant to be explored right before or after Margit. People mostly would explore a couple of mini dungeons on south and east limgrave then do Weeping/Margit.

>> No.20252022

>>20250697
it's a man

>> No.20252025

>>20251583
Tree sentinel halberd?

>> No.20252334

>>20250697
Got it, Zenshitya is a tranny.

>> No.20252430

>>20250697
>unironically pulling ai's failed "character has no gender" card
Christ.

>> No.20252468

>>20252025
ye

>> No.20252625

>>20242769
Wow, I'd unsub from everything if I were one of her whales. I knew she was dumb as rocks but being a blatant liar is too much. Why can't they just say I'm taking time off and not need to explain why?

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She seems to have forgotten that she's an entertainer and that means she can't play the game in the way she wants to all the time, you have an audience to cater to, if you want a to play a game at your own pace, then you don't stream it. No one wants to watch you bash your head into a wall for hours because you're using a retarded build, and expect some backlash when you do.

>> No.20253065

>>20204939
A lot of girls play games like this for some reason. They trick themselves into believing it isn't because of technique or lack of skill that they fail at the game but luck.

>> No.20253157

>>20244779
>>20244984
This sounds like a Mori maneuver. Am I wrong?

>> No.20253284

>>20230051
Why can't ENs just copy experienced JP chuubas and do the tutorial off stream an hour or so before they start streaming the game? The only EN I know that plays games pre stream to not be clueless is Finana.

>> No.20253730

>>20204939
Ame's rage is fine. It's funny to vast majority of her viewers along with her stubborn attitude.

That is way different from Ops post.

>> No.20253966

>>20204470

and people wonder why I watch holos instead. Gura or Pekora will bitch moan die and half-assed through a whole game and their suffering will be hilarious. They will play it up anddies for hours only to build a door or have whatever they worked on blown up by creepers and after all that they will laugh along with us and do it again next week maybe slightly better

>> No.20254074

>>20213206
Tranny is by far the most common outcome when longtime girl avatar mutes finally speak. Being both shit at vidya and mentally unstable does point in the bio female direction though, kek

>> No.20254297

>vshojo
>shojo as in young girl
>Literally a trans dude
wvt is a mistake

>> No.20254968

Wait I thought people insisted Zen was a girl? D8d he fess up?

>> No.20255163

>>20252625
That's pretty much exactly what they did, but not because of that. It's because she kinda sucked at streaming and cumming for the past year. Granted her whales are also schizos so it's kind of not really a bad thing for her.

>> No.20256177

>>20255163
Don't really watch Mel but does she even collab with other Vshojos anymore? I haven't seen even a clip of her in months.

>> No.20256977

>>20250697
>all this mental gymnastics
Yeah it's a fucking guy, even people that are LGBTY3423729+ obsessed with pronouns don't talk like this and just admit what they are

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>>20240774
Full STR Unga bunga builds are based

>> No.20257341

>>20250697
If he went camping for a bit he'd unironically feel 100 times better and not have melties

>> No.20257465

>>20254968
nobody does that except in the vshitter split and even then its mixed

>> No.20258023

>>20257341
Funny you say that because a vtuber he had a falling out with is actually doing a camping trip he was invited to
keyword was

>> No.20258235

>>20241115
based

>> No.20261330

Do streamers really care about chat? It's full of the most retarded human beings on the planet. Just pay attention to messages that are worth reading.

>> No.20262377

>>20261330
They could be smart and just do what Marine does when playing games, not look at chat at all. Its the only way to treat all the autism in this thread

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