/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://www.vtube.life/ranking/daily
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

*TALLY OF THE DAY *

>66,854: Hololive (Hololive)
>62,571: Botan (Hololive)
>56,177: Lamy (Hololive)
>45,960: Polka (Hololive)
>40,895: Nene (Hololive)
>24,148: Mumei (Hololive)
>23,912: Okayu (Hololive)
>23,075: Miko (Hololive)
>21,794: Mio (Hololive)
>21,335: Noel (Hololive)
>21,119: Korone (Hololive)
>20,775: Pekora (Hololive)
>20,060: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,484: Vox (Nijisanji)
>16,552: Lui (Hololive)
>14,930: Amelia (Hololive)
>13,426: Towa (Hololive)
>13,156: Akina (Nijisanji)
>12,706: Ina (Hololive)
>12,434: Furen (Nijisanji)
>12,414: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,620: Lize (Nijisanji)
>11,527: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,104: Sasaki (Nijisanji)
>10,071: Chihiro (Nijisanji)

Stop making threads so unnecessarily early
I'm not asking anymore

Today's superchats

Ah, peace

>$20k in SCs for the clock
Not terrible. I wonder how much merch she will push. Like could she move Polka levels? Okayu levels? Barely Ame levels?

>>20181790
Already outdated

>>20182472
it's useless to speculate now.

>>20182664
Anon... Kronii will be on tomorrow's, the cutoff point is midnight GMT

>>20183920
>Not Boros
baka my head

https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1503195735860387847?s=21
>Idol bootcamp
I’m predicting BIG NUMBERS

Milk those fujos hard!
Max 20 per customer.

/#/ is declining.

>>20184412
Fujos won't buy dozens of those just for an autograph right?
...right?

>>20184084
Tapestries are going to sell well (missed opportunity for Council 6 month anniversary honestly since it's generic and not hard to make, but feels more luxurious than acrylic stands), but they're going to make bank from fujos buying multiple sets of clear files to get the foil autograph from their oshi.

>>20184341
20k

>>20184503
>he doesn't know.

>>20184341
The real question, who's channel & timeslot (PT or ET)

>>20184503
>Fujos won't buy dozens of those just for an autograph right?
Vox's zhang duolingo with a thirsty thumbnail got more SCs than Lamy's idol costume reveal by $3k with 300 less total SCs.
What do you think lmao?

>>20184543
Comparing that to what Holo members get, it's rather low quality.

fuck sakes Kronii, don't do a merch available now fakeout.

>>20184715
They don't care. It's all about the profit margin for Nijisanji.

>>20184543
They're really trying to maximize profits, huh? Gacha system into merch kek. Signed limited Holo merch sells out immediately, no need for chances.

Damn it, we can never know the merch sales now. Fuck that Reddit bastard

>>20184853
is there no other way of going in to find out?

Here's the unityfox

>>20184699
>15 minute stream
Oh gee

>>20184715
If you compare with Council's 6 month anniversary, it's basically tapestry + cards + files + voice packs vs towel.
White day merch isn't personalized like birthday holo merch (not that Niji does much personalized merch anyways).
I would honestly take tapestries drawn by Council mamas over the towel with Sana's doodles.

The important thing is, they're going to make fucking bank from this anyways even if it's generic merch.

Unity fox ENTERS

>>20184503
Someone show this anon what a fujo's spending habits looks like

>>20185118
They pretty much gave up on the girls which is the funny part.

>>20184503
someone post the albums picture

>>20185090
Keep coping

>>20185118
But the towel you can use without feeling embarrassed. The tapestry will just attract weird looks.

>>20185090
The lamy comparison was just to emphasize the point, which was Vox made $13k from ~400 SCs.
His fanbase is smaller but they are fucking loaded and donating akasupas like nothing.

>>20184341
If its 5pm est, 15k
If its 8pm est. 20k

>>20185118
The revenue is gonna be divided by 5 people anyway for both council and luxiem. Crazy how fast Anycolor jumped into making merch for Luxiem when they didn't do that much for Lazulight before. Fujos would still eat up that shipping fee.

>>20184503
oh they will

>>20183711
>>20185235
It's white day, retard. Of course the focus would be on the males. Maybe you should wait until the next wave of merch to act like "they gave up on the girls" when their merch is getting better each time.

>>20185350
Check the goddamn schedule, it's 8pm PST.
The question is of course which channel it's on.

>>20185235
White day is a male event for women, the girls are actually lucky to be invited.
Luxiem is in a lucky spot where they can capitalize on Vday since it's unisex in the west, and White day, which is the day men give women shit in Japan.
Double dipping the best days for BFE.

>>20185464
what did they even do on Valentine's Day?

>>20185464
That means the girls should have Valentines merch right?
What are they?

>>20185350
So, it's basically about who should compromise at this point, Mori or Kiara.

>>20185472
It's on Kiara's, no?

>>20185533
Thank you for having a brain. kek how are anons in 4chan and dont know what white day is. normally the girls wouldn't even be part of it

>>20185625
>>20185561

>>20185560
>>20185561
No one had anything for Valentines. They dont voice packs for literally everything. If you knew of how jp works, you would know that.

>>20185278
You're hiding all your vtuber merch when your non-vtuber friends come visit anyways so it's the same shit.
Can't talk about getting weird looks for Niji merch when Kronii is literally selling a Daki and a oppai mousepad today.

>>20185472
You should have check Kiara's schedule at the same time anon.

>>20184341
Gura's channel: 40k
Ame's channel: 25k
Kiara's channel: 20k

>>20185464
Retard

>>20184503
Just visit the sweetbite hashtag for an example of yume/fujo madness

>>20185472
what? Kiara has it 5PM est. Either Gura made a mistake or Kiara will have to stay up late dancing lol.

>>20185818
This looks like a wedding picture.

>>20185738
As expected of mansanji,.

>>20185838
Considering it's both Kiara's who is organizing it and teaching it, I would take her word for it

>>20185838
Shit.
Well, 20k capped then.

>>20185818
this is why women don't succeed

Why don't chink fujos at least flock to Kuzuha?

>>20185934
The boot camp idea is from Gura, but I believe the channel and time will fit Kiara's comfort zone.

>>20185294
The most dangerous fanbase to have. They could dry up their funds and are just more likely to be menhera in general.

>>20186012
They have not forgiven the japs for Nanjing.

>>20186012
if he pandered as hard as vox maybe

>>20186012
He's a nip and little to no pandering

>>20185818
She's JP though. Do you have the chink version?

>>20186012
>chink fujos lusting after a jap
eh

>>20185738
anon, JP had a massive valentines voice pack and other valentines goods.

>>20186050
Not really, Kiara initially wanted to do the dancing stream, but only with Ame, but Gura asked to be included. It evolving into a full myth thing is also Kiara's initiative

I'm honestly shocked Kronii couldn't break 30k with this. I'm still convinced she could get like, 20k with a minecraft stream

>>20186073
Anon, there are probably over 100 million unmarried fujos in China. If they conquered that market, they are set for life. More fans than any Myth combined.

>>20184503
I’m just gonna let you know this
My sister is a hardcore kpop fan and she literally comes to me, handing me cash, to paypal people money for member cards that come in albums so she can have them for her collection.

Girls go nuts for shit like this

>>20186164
No, Kiara mentioned in her stream that Gura called her about an idol dance bootcamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFasjFGoR-U

>>20186012
He doesn't coombait. It's also why you don't see many people shitting on him here outside of funposting. The guy just likes to game.

>>20186144
Just because JP did it doesn't mean EN has to do it.

https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1503201123464716294?s=21
THIS CLUSSY KNOWS
I LOVE POLKA

>>20185928
Next time they give merchandise with the girls, lets see if its going to be posted in here

Ame is gonna get a good funnel after Kronii's stream. Box activated!

>>20186199
You don't conquer that market. You work with people that are legally able to operate over there and hope someone doesn't decide to end your career by saying you love Taiwan.

>kronii's merch is gonna start selling in 10 minutes
>we can no longer see the merch numbers
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

>>20186544
Why what happened?

>>20186570
someone snitched

>>20186450
I love this Unity Clussy

>>20186450
Polka is an influential person in Cover, she can probably convince Yagoo to do something.

>trying to push the manjisanji narrative when hololive has far worse examples of favoritism
At least Luxiem is outperforming the girls so it's fine to give them a little bit more, go look at how Cover treats gen 5 compared to Myth and say with a straight face that there's no favoritism going on.

>>20186570
Some retard broke containment and posted merch numbers on THE FUCKING OFFICIAL SUBREDDIT
Mods deleted the post but the resident merch anon later found out that the site was patched so that he could no longer see the numbers sold per merch

Nijisanji second male wave is doing poorly.

oh great, he's back

>>20186774
Got a link for the deleted post?

>>20186879
no, theyre not

>>20184412
>merch gacha
This is actually shameless.

>>20186737
you post this shit every thread. Take a break and wash your pussy first.

>>20186199
Funnily enough, they have the opposite problem.
There's not enough women to marry thanks to stupid 1 child policy.
Even butt ugly girl is 1st class citizen there.

>>20186879
>Noctyx is making as much as their JP livers
pfhahaha

a lot of the girls have been hinting towards hooking up during the irl meet up collab. during kronii's birthday stream, was fauna hinting to kronii eating her ass? she said kronii is good at "cleaning" but wouldn't go further than that. ame also said fauna doesn't wear underwear so she could see everything. there's been a lot of hints from the other girls that were there for the collab. Also, kiara's trying to hook up with kronii based on what she said when she called in. i didn't know so many of the girls were bisexual.

>>20186737
what the fuck does this mean anon
rich get richer while the ones that need more help get left to rot vs trusting your better performers to hold up while you help the ones in need
wonder what nets better results in the long run

I really thought he offed himself when gen 5 got their idol outfits.

>>20187043
meds, onegai

Fuck, the merch is on sales right now
Fuck!!!!! We will never know the number.

Anyway, anyone buying the full set?

Oh look it's him again, amazing how he shits on gen 5 as a whole when Polka is proven to be such a massive unityfag when it comes to interactions with EN and ID
Seems like the exact same person shitting on gen 6 and letting gen 5 live in his head rent free

>>20186737
there isn't you dumb fucking faggot, as long as shitters like Aki, Mel and Roboco consistently getting sponsor spots.

there's only a bunch of things a Japanese company can do for a branch outside the country.

EN is better compared to ID which mostly gets treated the same in the eyes of cover

>>20187082
How are gen5 the "ones in need'?
They have 3d, a fuckton of sponsorships, Botan is pretty much a top tier holo.nowadays. How bout the massive boost they gave HoloX? And still give them btw

>nooo the new JP branch is on the HoloJP main channel that's being biased Cover has favoritism!

>>20187231
You're contradicting yourself there anon.

Ignore the gen5 schizo, help me out with this since we're number deficient.
Is there a better way to scrape SC from a member stream? I don't mind doing Chloe's asmr later but the only way I know of is getting the live chat json and regexing it after it ends. Not sure if it will include the pre-chat as well.

>>20187082
This, there's no shame in propping up a bunch of underperformers like gen 5. That's what the box is for, you use it to promote and grow the accessory gens so that your stars look even better.

$92 for a daki... Cover... My 3rd world country currency can't afford this...

>>20186544
Honestly, it's not going to be JP numbers anyways so people will just use them to shitpost about how Council is a failure.
Shilling to a 25k totsu can't be compared to shilling during a 90k 3D live when the audience is overdosing on HoloUnity.

Also lmao Kronii just literally said she's shilling her merch.

Why is Cover's strategy of helping underperformers to incline even getting shit on anyway?
Shouldn't that be a good thing that the company cares?

>>20173005
where's anya?

>>20187574
Anon, this is not just any daki. This is you oshi's daki. Don't be a cheapskate.

>>20187626
well, some anons did brought up before that the en merch tended to go through the other website that we didn't have access to
however, that's theoretical numbers

>>20187653
2 views in Niji seething hard

>>20186624
it's kinda crazy how much influence 5th gen has built in hololive in such a short amount of time
Botan has attracted a completely new audience and the sponsors associated with them
Lamy got a new top tier sponsor for Holofes through her sake collab
I wonder if HoloX can live up to it

>>20187653
Nijinigger mental gymnastics. Pay them no heed.

>>20184022
I forsee the oppai mouse pad is going to do numbers

>>20182472
ENs are weak in merch compared to the main branch

>>20187653
at this point they have to be nijis that are just fine with just having 40 sub 2k shitters that get treated like garbage

Between TWD/HKD that chinks used to SC Luxiem and USD for Myth, which is the better currency and which group gets the most out of SCs? Since there's a lot of shit rates like a TWD akasupa is only $53. Is Luxiem chink fanbase is bigger than Myth's Western fanbase?

>>20187175
>Polka is proven to be such a massive
leech

>Botan merch
>IRyS merch
>Suisex merch later this month
Any other month I might have bought the mousepad

>>20187653
They're seething because their 2view oshi is abandoned and left to die by Tazumi.

>>20187175
please understand, gen 5's stellar performance lately completely mind broke him to the point of no return

>>20187776
so far lap has shown to be pretty proactive and creative, so i expect good things from her, while the others are hard workers, so i assume they'll be fine

>>20182472
I don't think they're at JP levels yet.
I predict 200k - 300k for Kronii.
150k for Bae
120k for Irys

>>20187985
>stellar performance
>needed an entire year of shilling by management to not be nijishitter tier 2views
Lol

>>20187892
>Is Luxiem chink fanbase is bigger than Myth's Western fanbase?
Bigger? Not even close.
More thirsty, wealthy, generous, and (currently) obsessed? Yeah I think so.

The money some of Luxiem is making right now is like top of the industry numbers and comparable to JPs.

>>20187933
>interacts
>"What a fucking leech, she's leeching off of their popularity!"
>doesn't interact
>"What a fucking piece of shit, she treating them like a side branch, she must be jealous of their popularity!"

>>20188024
Didn't the last count showed Bae at 200k already?

>>20187653
niji's stockholm syndrome

>>20187973
I would've honestly wanted a wada Arco rubber mat than an oppai mousepad. The boobpads is kinda impractical. Holos that has popular mamas should just stick to art merchs. Also, I want an EN hoodie merch with art from their mamas.

>>20186425
Just because JP does White Day doesn't mean EN has to do it.

>>20188100
Remember that SCs and cheap merch can only make you so much.
Most vtubers make the most money out of concerts, sponsorship and albums

>>20187574
that's honestly cheap for idol goods

>>20188122
Yes. But we still have until April so all merch sales will still increase.

>>20188238
i concede concerts and sponsors, but weren't albums kind of a meme metric

>>20187422
Hololyzer will have the prechat SC, what you can do is take that data and compare it to your own archived chat log scrape (assuming you're only scraping archived), remove any duplicated SCs and you should have the whole thing.

https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/DrI0CtCzG-w.html

>>20188301
Album is a meme if you are signed with a major label.

>>20188301
only if you're signed to a label, so not hololive

>>20188086
you need to sue gen 5 for the amount of rent they owe you lol

>>20188301
If you are signed to a label, then yes it's a meme metric

>>20188301
They're a meme metric if you're signed to a record label that ends up taking the vast majority of your earnins like Kuzuha, but Suisei made mad bank on her Album since she didn't need to give up most of it.

>>20188238
Yeah, but if you're a Niji without merch, then SCs aren't insignificant.
Especially if you make $70-100k like Luca and Vox recently did.

I'm mostly using their SCs as a barometer for how rabid their fanbase is right now, and judging from metrics such as CCV, VODs, music reps, sub growth, twitter engagement, SCs...etc, it's still pretty fucking rabid.
Reminds me of back in late 2020 when Gura or Ame can tweet a random shitpost and get 50k twitter likes.

so is the point of signing to a label just like for publicity then

Isnt sora signed to a label?

>>20187653
This question is rich from the thread that will shit on your oshi if she reclines.

>>20188360
Right, the waiting room is public so that works.
I'm just wondering if there's a way to deal with it if the frame goes member-only some time before it started, since both the chat log and hololyzer can't track it.

>>20188647
Technically yes. Concerts are the moneymakers of the artist

>>20188559
I think Bloom might be one of Cover's greatest investments. It is an excellent showcase that they can be their own label and negotiate with the girls directly while cutting out the middleman completely. I hope they do a Bloom 2 announcement at the end of Holofes3.

>>20188086
God damn finana relax.

>>20188647
Yes, if you aren't signed to a label, you're essentially an indie right?
You do get paid by the label tho IIRC when you sign the contract.

Hololive is a special case where they can self-publish since they're a corporation and everything a Holo does as a Holo is owned by Cover.

>>20188644
Shame that the bath salt thing ended Gura's interest in posting fun stuff on twitter.

>>20188296
So the prediction that the anon said was already wrong. Also, IRyS and Bae have a very close intermingling fanbase. Almost the same spending power as well so their estimates are going to be very close with IRyS probably fairing better

>>20186737
>gets more sc
> sells more merch
>have higher ccv
>shishillron
gen 5 as a gen outperforms myth

>>20188647
They could also shill your works to studios and other networks and land big contracts for it.

>>20188675
Yes. It's pretty obvious that Cover isn't terribly happy with the arrangement now.

>>20188647
These are the things a record label can do for you
>Music Production
>Music Advertising
These are not small things. You gotta remember, not everyone is like Suisei who over the years has managed to cobble together contacts with assorted industry peeps for her songs and whatnot. Or Mori. You get the idea.

>>20188122
no

>>20186176
Did you not see how unprepared she was for this stream? If she had the same preparation as IRyS or Bae then she could have hit 30k easily. Even the non-numberfag Holos were giving her flak for it

>>20188675
Sora is signed with Victor Label. That's why it's hard for her to participate with the other girls since she is locked down by her contract. You think of Sora like Jesus. She forged the path for the other girls while taking on the crappy contract situation.

Hows Kronii maintaining 20k babbling about nonsense? That's pretty impressive.

>>20187175
Why is he obsessed with JP gens from 5 onwards? I don't think I've seen this kind of posting for earlier ones.

>>20189078
She's a bundle of nervous wreck held together by 2 hour of sleep anon.

Stop this en vs jp fulgur! At the end hololive wins.

>>20189092
Autism anon. Pure autism.

>>20188644

>twitter engagement
>Niji related

literally worth nothing

>>20176024
point and laugh at the nijinigger everyone

>>20188914
I'm close to unfollowing the NijiENs I only kinda like on twitter since they tweet so goddamn much compared to HoloEN that it clogs up my homepage with NijiEN stuff. They're constantly bantering and shitposting each other, whereas for HoloEN, you're lucky to see Gura respond to a fellow HoloEN's tweet. She basically ghosts her socials on days she's not streaming. Even the other girls barely interact with each other on twitter.

I wonder if that difference in activity played a part in NijiEN hijacking the twitter algorithm from HoloEN despite the massive follower discrepancy.
More tweets = more engagement = more Niji stuff being pushed everywhere. Having a topic helps too but I think that's more on JP's side.

>>20189092
People are waiting if there's something else going to happen. It's going to decrease once they realize it's just a zatsu now.

>>20188745
You can use pytchat to get the json file instead, as it works on any member streams too as long as the chat log exists. (you dont have to be a member)

>>20189273
case in point, sukoya's return tweet got more likes than her ccv

https://twitter.com/pacificracing/status/1503204474864562178?

fucking lol, management tells Kronii she can pin a link to the merch in her chat and she can't even remember how to do it.

>>20189165
If this was a one-time thing then sure but this has been a thing since her debut. Even her outfit reveal was similar too. Its just one of Kronii's charm and I just find it funny how the clock is the one with poor time management.

>>20189413
cute wine aunt

>>20189413

>>20189522
it's marine shuba and wamy right

Post limit huh? It's been a while

>>20186942
>>19997778

>>20189653
え?

>>20189522
I'm guessing the order of reveals for the remaining three will be Lamy -> Marine -> Subaru

>>20189273
>>20189392
Still numbers, still free exposure and advertising.
If Holos got Niji's twitter numbers, their current numbers would be even higher.
It's the normie social media platform in Japan.

We're talking about NijiEN vs HoloEN anyways and twitter is an effective tool for reminding your fans you still exist when you go on random breaks.

>>20188926
>he says this when Gura is more popular than all of them combined without even a fraction of the support
Organic popularity will always beat corpo-forced shilling, if Gura was competing in the Vtubing Olympics gen 5 would only qualify for the Paralympics what with how much external assistance they've had to rely on lmao.

>>20189683
/infinity/

>>20189413
>>20189522

I need these so much

>20189837
>organic popularity
A literal Nijicoep, now you know who's behind this

ame is so bad at singing...

>>20189913
Force the sponsors to commission alternate outfits for the talents

>>20189702
sorry if my oshi isn't an attention whore, who Tweets LOOOOOOOOOOOOL, POOOOOOOOOOOOG, *coom-baits*, and ''funny'' Discord chats...

I'm so confused, is gen5 schizo pretend to be a myth schizo or the reverse?

>>20190000
Grass is green, my dick is hard, what else is new?

>>20189668
I fucking hate Reddit, man

I kind of expected more SC since it's Kronii. It's almost the same as Bae's and IRyS'.

>>20190062
it's a niji pretending to be an asshurt myth fan

>>20190062
Your schizo reps...
He's pretending to be a Mythfag shitting on gen 5 and 6 to fuel JP vs EN

>>20190157
Based on my calculations, my conclusion is natural recline.

>>20190042
There's a middle ground between Reimu and someone who tweets 10x more on her roommate's account like fucking Sana.

>>20187776
>attracted a completely new audience

Yep, from what I've seen and even I, a good bunch of people was attracted byt Botan and Gen 5 as a whole, mostly in the first months after they debuted, gotta give it to Botan, the amount of different games she plays had also helped to make people want to buy them.

>>20188690
holofags being hypocrite subhumans, whats new.

I only come into these threads to save the op art but I have to say you guys are mentally deranged. Who even cares about these sort of things? The numbers a vtuber is pulling doesn't affect the enjoyment or lack thereof from watching/interacting.

>>20188644
There's no nijien without merch. they all have merchandise sold and many voice packs.

>>20190488
Tell that to the entire board, Mr. Normal

>>20187653
Because nijis can't make ''The box'' work while holos can

>>20190488
idk man I like numbers, they please me

>>20190488
/#/ is called a containment thread for a reason.

>>20190488
You're right. It's just fun to discuss numbers.

>>20186988
That shit pisses me off. Ripping off fans like that. Fucking mangagement.

Vox has 3 asmr streams this week. He's too powerful
https://twitter.com/Vox_Akuma/status/1503206524050681860

>>20190488
i honestly don't believe anyone who says they don't get a hole in their stomach when they watch someone with less than 1k viewers

>>20190488
You're confused anon, apart from a few schizos and shitposters the numbers are divorced from enjoyment of stream content. They're a separate and distinct enjoyment in themselves.

>>20190724
Is he trying to steal all the hype from HoloFes3? He is too powerful.

>>20190488
Would you prefer us all to talk about the numbers in all the other threads?

>>20190157
The difference was supposed to be the merch sales but we can't see them now because of one retard breaking containment.

Holostars EN, meet your senpais and the people you will share this BOX with.

I hope you all have a fun and successful time being part of the biggest vtuber agency in the world.

>>20190724
>8 streams in a week
>All monetizable
>3 ASMR streams, some don't even make sense
If you make $10k+ in SCs every ASMR stream you've done so far and are 3/3 for 10k+ CCV, you would do it too.

>>20190488
>>20190691
Yeah, it's just fun to discuss numbers of a hobby. Even the horse racing was a nice add on. Do people actually take serious on how much an actor/ a football players make? All Im here for is my oshis number is bigger than yours, that's it. There's also, my oshi's corpo is bigger and isn't as greedy for money than you. Anycolor's business practices is super tacky.

>>20190157
Too much EN birthday most likely, and there is Koyori's birthday tomorrow

>>20191042
>Every ASMR
he hasn't seen studying with vox asmr SC kek

>>20189837
>says this when gura is favored heavily by youtube alghorithm

>>20190724
It's very obvious he's not focused on content but money. Not even asmr channels spam that much asmr.

>>20190976
If ENstars gets Petra/Finana numbers, they will be more successful than JPstars already.
If they got Noctyx numbers, it'll be considered an unheralded success.

>>20190724
good, i hope that he keeps doing it so that western fans keep getting turned off by him and memoryholed him completely.

>>20191184
Western fans are irrelevant

>>20190722
They're Nijisanji fans, and fujos at that, they get what they deserve. Blind bag merch lol.

>>20190222
What's Sana roommate got to do with attentionwhoring your oshi does? Haha

>>20191149
lol check discord

>>20191141
I missed that one, but he made $48k in his first 2 ASMR streams so technically if you divide by 3, it's still $10k+ for all 3 lmao.
Dude is so transparent that it's fucking gross.

>>20191042
There is no reason they'll get either of those.
They don't have a target audience other than "Holostars fans".
They'll get 400-800 CCV, just like the japanese branch.

>>20190724
Making as much as he can while he's popular. Ironmouse probably advised him when they collabed.

>>20191394
hello seanigger

naming yourself fulgur and Finana just to reply to yourself doesn't make the falseflagging less obvious...

>>20191442
was for >>20191167

>>20191184
He doesn't have many western fans and those that exist have the exact same tastes as the foreigners and will like it.

>>20191442

how is going in the future?

>>20191345
Yeah that's actually what i want. Just like the JP chuuba that got big on bili2 and that famous faggot youtuber. Only known on china and forgotten everywhere else on the world. A true chinese puppet.

>>20191472
Ok Fulgur.

Are there more barely literate ESLs here at this time than normal or is it all just one guy?

>>20191472
Not even the same fag

>>20191184
Anyone who is still a fan of Luxiem at this point is down for their pandering.
They have made 0 attempts to be subtle about it and their chats are extremely female/homo.

>>20191442
It's hard to imagine someone associated with HoloEN getting less than 1000 CCV, even if it's ENstars.
Sometimes I wonder if most of JPstars is actually just boring af because it's inexcusable how bad their numbers are when indies can get to 1000.

>>20191674
most people here are hololive fans and most of those are seamonkeys and spics
you get where I am going

>>20191674
>sometime between 11-12pm in SEA
Gee, I wonder why

There's gonna be 3 white day streams from Luxiem today. All 3 can get a min 10k ccv and $5k. It won't be long for Niji to take the EN female viewer market monopoly.

>>20191804
how many male vtubers have 1K+ CCV?
I only know of Gatchman and the Emperor
maybe some APEX guys?

>>20191908
Niji is inclining, Holobronies on suicide watch

>>20190461
nijiseethe

>>20191987

>how many male vtubers have 1K+ CCV?

Uhhh, a fuckton of people..?

hey, did the anon that makes the line charts ever did one for matsuri

Controversial opinion: numbers bad.

>>20191908
>It won't be long for Niji to take the EN female viewer market monopoly.
They never had any competition for that market.
The question has always been how big is that western female market. Zhang/JP times is when they get their best numbers anyways.

You can tell even Luca's viewerbase isn't western because he doesn't drop off at all as it gets more and more late for the west like how Council does. It's Asians watching in the afternoon.

>>20192114
well I am not familiar with JP male vtubers outside of the two mentioned above, Nijisanji and Holostars

>>20191149
NIJICOPE LIST
*FRAMED IN GOLD*
>>Luxiem/Noctyx earn as much as Holo JP
>>Council didn't do as well Luxiem
>>Holo management were mad about Nijis opening applications again so fast

*CLASSIC*
>quality
>chemistry
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales (without evidence)
>fortune telling
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>foreign audience bad, local Nips good
>YouTube Japan
>flexible creative freedom
>Google trends
>Holobubble is bursting >Niji is more popular than Holo in Japan
>Niji is mainstream in Japan, which is more important than Holo's international dominance
>Niji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>Cover uses bots
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate

*NUMBERS*
>percentage
>ratio
>volume
>quality numbers
>combined peak CCV from different times
>dead cat bounce
>fake numbers
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers
>VOD views don't count
>views don't matter
>deadsubs doesn't matter, what matters is dedication
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>holotrash cant get 200k ccv stream without graduation
>-43%
>Combined SC vs one Holo

*IT DOESN'T COUNT*
>tournaments don't count
>outfit reveals don't count
>relays don't count
>Koshien is not an event
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Square Enix doesn't count
>Bookwalker doesn't count
>Pokemon doesn't count
>gacha rolling streams doesn't count
>gen 3 shouldn't count so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos

*MERCH AND SPONSORS*
>number of merch determines popularity, not any other metric
>Niji shilling makes games like Genshin successful in Japan
>sponsorships are retarded
>Holo's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>20 Holo merch for fake scarcity
>Bushiroad associating with Holo is toxic for their growth as it was making them lose the Chinese market in the long run

*OTHERS*
>stop picking on midgets! (they started the fight themselves)
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>trailers are ads
>playing the victim
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>most vtubers are Niji-like and Niji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijifans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Holo invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Niji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>honorary Niji
>Niji have morals
>moral victory
>rightful sovereignty
>Luxiem is five Voxes
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Holocope list
>Holo is only popular because of chink clippers
>Niji has a better following than Holo in the west
>*Selen delusion here*
>there are no Nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Niji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>only the west speaks english
>Twitter interactions
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Nijifans will only watch a stream and Holofans will watch 3-4 so the Niji refresh rate is higher
>Nijifans tend to interact with the streams "properly"
>Niji keeps failing but that's okay because they are rich
>having shit mics pre-debut is tradition
>Cover paid off the government to come down hard on their rivals
>Management forced Mori to unfollow Nijis
>at least Vox whores himself to his fans
>indies will more likely go to NijiEN first, stay indie second and then choose HoloEN as their last resort
>If they make fun of you, you win

>>20191908
>take the EN female viewer market monopoly.

Oh come on this has got to be bait.

>>20192197
look at the name field anon, it is, and it's just shitting up the thread for no reason

>>20192248
Seethe harder holobrony

>>20191908
>It won't be long for Niji to take the EN female viewer market monopoly
whaaaaaaaaaaaat? your branch is only relevant because of zhang dollars. The state!

>>20192394

>>20188360
It doesn't get all the SCs sometimes. I have sent pre-chat and post-chat SCs that didn't register in Hololyzer, but the streamer saw them during SC reading

>>20192427
holy shit right belod the nasdaq building

>>20192427
So it's finally on

>>20192408
They can't show this graph for the girls even though it's mostly USDs too, because only Pomu and Selen would be relevant enough wahaha nipplesanjibros?

There were some anons in a thread yesterday hoping that Cover will announce that they were not satisfied with the applicants they got and are shutting down for now the HolostarsEN project.

Imagine that actually happening while Nijisanji debuts another wave with males and them doing well.

I would like to see the reactions, not of people here, but in other shitholes like leddit and social media.

holobros.. the en gold...

hey, to the anon that was mad about the 14.9k of watson yesterday, don't look at her current graph

>>20192614
Is Luca gonna get 20k more people watching?

>>20192614

the fact that the collab ended just in time for this was kinda surprising ngl. is this the niji en BOX?

>>20192384
You go, girl. Nijification will come soon and our corpo will finally obtain the monopoly they rightly deserve.

>Ame streaming during Kronii's birthday stream
fake ass bitch

>>20192614
Kronii's 25k today is higher than the all-time NijiEN stream record.
If Luca can get 25k+ with a White Day date stream, he would beat every Luxiem/NijiEN collab ever by himself.
That would be kneelworthy.

>>20192614
Shu/Luca/Ike can get maybe 10-12K with this.
Vox/Mysta can probably get 15-17K.
I don't think they can beat 25K.

They will get a shit ton of money, though.

TIKTOK TEAKEK

>Irys 10 min recovery for 3k waiting room
>Luca 1 min recovery for 4k waiting room
Hello darkness my old friend...

>>20192803
Kek, Fianna could have this, but she doesn't want to "copy" HoloEN, even though it's the fans that wanted to do this.

>>20192871
What have La+ done to you.

>>20192871
It's not Luca's fault that holokeks are botting, anon

Is Niji's small dog syndrome really that bad around here?

>>20192608
>I would like to see the reactions
the real fun is when starsEN broke every nijiEN males debut numbers. The seething would be fun to watch

>>20193020
like you wouldn't believe

>>20192847
I think Luca is closer to Vox/Mysta these days.
He can probably get up to 14k tonight since there's no Luxiem overlap and he's in VR.
If the other boys join him, I think it's inevitable.

>>20192427
>kronii got this shit instead of most en which are clearly way better than her

rumao

>>20193020
i don't even know if there is legit nijifag here

>>20192980
That would be the other way around though if they were.

>$80k
Didn't notice I made this much this month. It's only a small fanservice I do to my viewers. I don't get what made you guys mad at me. Is earning money could cause so much seethe? Dear me. I have to go now. There's another asmr stream tonight. Better update that monthly SC rankings for me, will ya. Bye

councilschizo got really triggered at being called fungus covid i see

i hate this shitposter, we already have enough schizos and they don't spam this much

>>20192980
so youre saying nijifemkeks are botting aswell?

How many vtubers have had their faces plastered at Times Square?

>>20193378
1, the most influential vtuber of our time Kronii.

>>20193378
Ina and Kronii

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O3i_qgvAxE

>>20193378
only ina and kronii so far ?

>>20192803
>>20193378
vox at tiananmen square next month

>>20192871
Why hasn't anyone here who could script compare the first 10 minutes of a Holo and a niji EN to see how many unique viewers they have?

>>20193592
Replace Mao's face with Vox, I wonder how much it would piss off the CCP

>>20193677
CCP are big Vox fans.

>>20193592
hahaha this is actually funny

https://twitter.com/Ange_Katrina_/status/1503034644832284672

Interesting example of what a popular Niji female group 3D live would get.
60k?

>>20193651
Better things to do with their life, most likely.

>>20193867
90k cuz of hoshiyomis

>>20193867
Will there be any nijimale guests?

>>20192756
it's just her reacting to fanart now. the event proper is done.

>>20193020
look at them celebrating over every 1k and you tell me.
Honestly nijisanji probably would have a better reputation around these parts if nijiniggers didn't keep trying to pit their shitty ccv against hololive like north korea telling their citizens that they can absolutely defeat the USA in a stand up fight, honest.

>>20193867
Replace Toko with Suisei and this would easily breakthrough 100k.

>>20193867
Gonna break 100k, screenshot this

>>20193867
considering ange's, toko's and lize's viewership + nijitourists, yeah, 60k is a nice floor

>>20193867
50k-60k

>>20193867
80k easy

>>20193099
This, I'm entirely convinced it's mostly just reasonable holofags, petty and vindictive holofags, shitposters, and every now and then a real nijifag comes in like a unicorn

>>20193501
HoloKR stronk

>>20193867
40-50k

Any bets that it's an all female lineup?

>>20193867
Toko....

>>20193867
Sounds about right. I'll watch for Lize.

>>20193867
50k floor, 100k ceiling

>>20193938
>>20194061
>>20194066
>>20194114
So I see you retards have already forgotten about the nijinurse's 3d return

>>20194037
They gotta hustle anon, they are in nijiEN for a reason. They can't even play Elden Ring on stream because they have to turn off their SCs. That would tell you more than enough kek

>>20194163
Sanbaka is all female anon..... Although all of them have deep voice.

>>20193867
1 floor, 1000k ceiling

Ame is about to hit 10k with kronii ending

>>20194259
anon, the nurse was a shitter, these are like half of the nijigirls that make tally regularly

>>20194259
toko got hoshiyomis who will watch her events

Ame 10k get, thanks Kronii

>>20194259
It's Sanbaka anon.

>>20194547
and?

>>20194259
>thinks the vomit fetish literal who nurse is indicative of Sanbaka's upcoming numbers
ror
rumao even

>sleep stream
This is peak twitch/vshojo content, but on youtube.

>>20194684
She's more enjoyable to watch if she's not talking, not gonna lie.

>>20194684
Wtf is this shit? keep that shit on Twitch...

>>20194803
not surprising from the pog people

>>20194585
Sanbaka is Niji's most popular girl group. Ange and Lize are also their top girl streamers, only behind Mito. Toko also got great numbers for her karaoke and got the highest CCV for NijiRock event. Comparing Sanbaka to Sukoya is like comparing Sankisei to Mel.

>>20194984
hey man, mel got a 58k

>>20194585
>3 top 50 chuubas
>Niji's most popular female clique
Niji needs to take Yagoo's trade offer if they can't even get 60k on that

>>20193124
I make more than you with less effort vox.

inb4 holofags
>oh no no no sub 60k
>absolute state of nijifem
>yagoo.jpg come home
etc etc

>>20195279
anon why

its over...

get new material

>>20195385

12k? but anons said it was the en gold...

>>20195385
17k nice

>>20193124
Milord please call me a good boy, please!

>>20192608
>Nijisanji debuts another wave with males and them doing well.
see the interesting part will be how Nijis 3rd wave will do. the second one is already not doing as well as the first

>>20195385
damn, didn't know luca gets 25ks, pretty impressive

>>20194259
Lize is Mito level in Nijifems. Toko has hoshiyomi tourists. Ange is also a strong nijifem. Bakatare is a decent equivalent and what was Bakatare’s 3D numbers again?

It's been over two months, and it seems NijiEN is still a lot lower compared to HoloEN despite constant shitposting.

What kind of buff can NijiEN have?

>>20195577
If Riku keeps accelerating, it might be too late.

If only Sanbaka were in Hololive instead of shitters like Matuli...

>>20195625
56k, but watame and flare get worse numbers than lize and ange, so that's why i predict 60k at least

>Anons doesn't realize that Sanbaka is only relevant due to being Hololive lite and they get carried by their designs.
Lize = Emilia
Ange = Retarded Kurisu
Toko = Any generic black haired red eyed anime girls

>Predict the numbers anons!

Lowball a stream
>Noooo think of the [buff] and [buff]
>Adjusts prediction to their liking
>Stream fails to meet the number
>Fucking falseflaggers, /#/ can't predict for shit

Highball a stream
>Nooooo it's nothing special, and it's a fucking shitter
>Adjusts prediction to their liking
>Streaam fails to meet the number
>HAHAHAHAHHA BTFO, /#/ can't predict for shit

>>20195760
There's also the novelty factor too.
Ange, Toko and Lize rarely do 3D performances, whereas we have been seeing Fubuki, Watame and Flare a lot in 3D recently.

>>20195955
why do you hate fun anon

>>20195646
buttplug and ballgag review

>>20195517
>>20195595
NIJINIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS

>>20195595
>>20195517

>>20195200
>nipplenigger top 50
kek

>>20195760
That's the recent bakatare's number right? Did people forget what happend that day? I couldn't even watch the stream.

>>20196093
>>20196158
Samefag

>>20195760

Yeah I think 60k is a safe bet. But it will depend a bit on how the overlap for that day will go too. Niji3D debuts have a free timeslot (well at least from the JP branch lol), but not the 3D lives

>>20196260
>Haha look at me blatantly lie isn't it a funny joke
Tongue my anus

>>20196247
i know, but it's not too far of what it could've gotten cause you have to treat it more like a sololive in a way, it was an hour of just the 3 of them singing and talking, no guests, not much variety

>>20194886
NijiEN already runs out of creativity.
Not like they ever had any to begin with.

Why the fuck do we tolerate nijiniggers when their only contribution to this thread are lies and trollposts?

>>20196457
We should stop all discussions on Vox and only refer him to as "that guy"

>>20195385
>literal 2 view
HAHAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF NIJIZHANJI

>holobronies constantly seething over nijinigger shit posts
rent free

Irys is at 8.3k right now and if Ame ends soon and funnels a bit, she has a chance at 10k for her 3rd Elden Ring stream.
Ina's on her 5th stream and still getting 12k with and without overlap.
Kiara on her 3rd and still getting 8k.
Mori still getting 10k or close after multiple streams too.
Ame with her first 14k game stream in a while.

Apart from Gura's 2nd stream falling off a cliff, Elden Ring has been a rare buff game for EN with surprisingly strong retention.
Can't wait for Council to start playing it too.

>>20196830
ame is going to start late night elden ring after. doubt teamates gonna funnel to irys

>>20196660
Don't use Hisupi for your shitpost

>>20197187
S-Sumimasen

>>20187422
>>20188360
I'm archiving Chloe's members-only live chat, so I'll provide the numbers later. I'll merge with hololyzer's prechat (I only started archiving about a day before scheduled start, while frame was up longer than that).

Note that while replay chat is notorious for missing gobs of messages (plus ignoring prechat & postchat), even live chat doesn't capture 100% of chat for insane chat speeds (especially not Gura or event streams), but it should capture 99%+ SCs.

>>20197099
She'll take a small break before her next stream so there's a chance.
8.5k with overlap is considered a buff stream for Irys anyways.

>luca at 10k after the girls join
the female debuff
niji needs to graduate the girls

Next Thread >>20197854

>>20184412
>Gacha system for merch
>Only for foiled pressed autograph
Fcking shameless
At least make it hand signed

>>20197964
AnyColor doesn't care about shame anymore.
They are already in bed China.

>>20184853
Don't mention that fucker
It makes me seethe
I WANT TO SEE BLUE WOMEN MERCH'S SALES

>>20196534
Okay Reimu

>>20184412
>>20184503
You could buy 20 and get 0 Autograph cards
Or buy 20 and don't get the Autograph card you want
Oh they will spend the $$$ or buy from the 2nd hand market who will jack up the prices

>>20188237
Oooff have mercy on that anon
No comeback from that retard when asked about valentine huh?

did we ever find out how much money juns wedding with pekora made? playboard has his number at 1.8mil but we all know he was well into the 2s

>>20198081
Yeah me too. I guess we will never know how much she makes.

>>20198378
Pretty sure one anon recorded $2.275M

>>20198508
how much did he blow out the 2nd most superchatted stream ever by? is rushia on suicide watch now?

>>20198508
Wait, I thought you meant yen.
jfc Jun made $2 mil USD from streaming his wedding? Numbers god.

>>20198378
Jun got more SCs in that one stream than Kuzuha has in 4 years...
What the fuck.

>>20198508
so it's better to pander to the gamer/minecraft crowd than to the fujo/yumejo?

Holo gold contender? Seems like Nijisanji's going strong tonight

>>20198898
I think the lesson is to be the xqc of Japan and then monetize your wedding while inviting a shitton of popular guests.

Since Hal and Rin were at his wedding tho, does this kill the rrat that Jun hates vtubers?

>>20198378
>juns wedding with pekora
What?

>>20199019
i think he only hate the female vtubers. similar how gamers sneer at "gamer girls" clout chasers