/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I don't watch nijien

>>19898736
small indie company

>>19899408
fpbp and based

>>19898736
>I thought they're being paid a lot to get good equipments and good models
Covid doesn't provide for the VR chat stuff let alone the VR equipment, they have to buy it themselves.

Kiara's glitches look like her trackers are loose and the jiggling around and causes the IK to freak out.

I'm surprised they didn't try it out in advance? Or didn't notice?

Fans love the "lol EN curse" so whatever I guess

>>19898736
all of this was put up by kiara and ame for funsies

>Why is it so scuffed
Hololive is known for putting in the least amount of effort into their productions.

>>19898736
Hololive tech in shambles

Would you rather it be perfect with no mistakes? That's not entertaining at all. Also, most JP3Ds have problems with 3D as well, mostly in the leg portions.

>>19902154
Kek

Are they just in a VR chat room or is this like a legit meeting between Ame and Kiara?

>Why is it so scuffed
because they are using VRchat instead of a traditional mocap tech

Holy cow Kiara's skill demands she does this with Pomu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utbtoYOE68M&t=2970s

>>19898736
Why do you think the Nijimals boasted of their technological superiority?

Precisely because someone from HoloEn must have told them how they have to manage on their own without any help from management

>>19898736
because they are incompetent and deserve nothing they receive in life

>>19903588

It honestly feels and looks like holo models are lacking compared to other models, most indies have better rigging than them its crazy

>>19898736
Lack of preparation and effort

>>19902956
The independently comissioned and paid for 3d VR chat models the Nijis have been getting are super cute off of even less fan support since Holo EN mog them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utbtoYOE68M&t=14m7s

Vox, stop posting.

>>19898736
weak bait

>>19898736
le EN curse xD

Nice 3D model Pomu.

>>19902956
95% of niji's models look like dog water, the only thing they have going for them is their 3d tracking they can only use for special events

>>19898736
VR chat is jank in general, even the recent Niji vr streams have been jank. Just enjoy it for what it is. At least holo EN girls are getting good 3d soon. Nijis ENs will probably graduate before they get the good shit because of how anykara does shit. Enjoying wait you have is the best solution. I got to see the Pog man and Pomu in chibi 3d so I can appreciate that. Kiara, Ame, and Gura got some cute low poly models, it's all good. Models flying across the screen isn't something that's going to bug me.

>>19901282
>puts in minimal effort
>still wins
This is just like comparing Sana to Finana.

>>19902505
There are indies right now on vrchat that have less scuff

>>19899408
who does

Don't feel bad about it anon, the NijiEN chibis are self funded, it's not company backed. Actual 3D debuts are huge events and so autistically prepared the girls are still months if not years away from getting theirs.

What I'm saying is that the holoENs will definitely be better rigged in the long run, and you're welcome to enjoy the NijiEN chibis.

>>19911431
They sometimes logged in off stream and interacted with fans when the nijien VR server was open to public.Selen even got two people "role-playing" in her room

3d Gura is life

>>19898736
Trying my best not to simp or something but I'm pretty sure this wasn't official stuff, but rather something just made by Ame and Kiara on whim

These models just look so bad. The proportions, the face, just yuck. They look like yiik characters

>>19914387
If it was management made it would be guaranteed bland garbage

>>19899718
OK covid, killing my grandma was one thing but ruining the ametori collab is where I draw the line

>>19913359
Kek
Dabbed on this nippleniggers

>>19902691
I don't understand the part at the end where she switched to another model. Is that a familiar model or something? I've never watched any vr streams, so genuinely asking

>>19914569
>Connor was right

>>19899408
lmao fpbp

>>19899408
my thoughts exactly

>>19898736
Alright, I'll break this down because I've seen a lot of confusion about how they're doing the tracking, if they're in the same room, why it's scuffed. etc.
They're all in their own homes wearing SteamVR compatible headsets (Vive or Index) that utilize what are called SteamVR Base Stations (or lighthouses) to track the headset, controllers, and any other compatible accessories or peripherals. The Base Stations work through IR light pulses and lasers to identify and track sensors on objects, as seen in the .gif.
Because these base stations only track in a wide area in front of them, this means that two are generally in use at the same time to prevent tracked objects from being covered (from turning around, objects in the tracked space, etc.) and placed in opposite corners of the room.
The placement effects tracking A LOT, and body trackers/controllers/headsets will freak out immediately if they aren't being detected. And because it relies on light and laser pulses to track, any reflective surface (like glass or mirrors) will confuse the tracking and cause it to bug out. This means if you want optimal tracking, you'll have to change your room to accommodate VR, which is why many hardcore users have dedicated VR rooms free of any other objects and any windows covered.
Combine these problems with how VRChat has some real shitty inverse-kinematics that they're only now working on improving, and you're in scuff city.
My guess is that Gura and Ame have rooms more suited to VR, having clear space and no reflective surfaces, and Kiara having possible mirrors or unoptimal base station coverage due to limited space. If she fixes a few things she'll be perfectly fine (except ditch the Vive for an Index, or at least buy a ModMic. plz chimgm.)
>t. hardcore VR and body tracking autist

>>19918386
To add on to this, the trackers are very easy to occlude and even I encounter issues when I'm doing complex movements, and preventing any wobble or jiggle means you'll have to tighten your straps or belt to the point where you constrict blood flow.
https://www.vive.com/us/accessory/tracker3/
There are advances being made in completely networked tracking that don't require base stations like SlimeVR or the HaritoraX, but they're still primitive and encounter too many issues to be considered a viable competitor.