/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

if you like the streamer and the content

I dunno. Do you need that $5 for rent or food?

>>1971025
How do you have hours to watch vtubers but not 5 dollars?

>>1971025
Support aside, Ame membership worth it for the contents.

>>1971025
Consider it as your support for the chubas. Extra contents is a bonus

>>1971025
If you already send supas regularly then obviously, just send $5 less and become a member instead. If not then just torrent some streams and decide for yourself if you want more of that + little stuff like member posts.

>>1971025
If you get a VPN and pay in ARS it is; otherwise absolutely not unless you have cash to burn.

>>1971025
Ame’s is. I also have Senchou’s, but I don’t know that it’s really worth it. Her emotes suck and she watches capeshit once a month for members streams. I mostly keep it to support her rather than for the perks.

Is there a difference between the different tiers or is she just jewing simps out of more money?

>>1971025
maybe, maybe not, but i am going to be getting Gura membership.
i listened to a torrent of her asmr stream and i never had such an intense emotional and physical reaction to a woman's voice before. i owe gura.

>>1971324
No, other than Mori the different tiers are just purely for the few good points.

>>1971376
What few good points?

>>1971401
if you get 20 good point you will be able to have sex with your oshi

>>1971025
I dunno. Personally I'm not that much of a fan of the ASMR content that a lot of them paywall.

>>1971428
Weirdly, Ame is the opposite. Her ASMR is public & her pure zatsudan is member-only.

>>1971425
Shit. Why did nobody tell me this until now?

Ame has no talent

>>1971025
Ame and Gura have pretty great membership streams, if you like chitchat and karaoke. I have no idea what the other Holos do. The only other that interested me was Calli's creative stream, but that's $25 per month.

Mine? Not at all. Still buy though.

Do chubbers get anything if you have YT premium and watch their streams?

it depends on the vtuber but really if you're at the point where you're willing to send one an SC you may as well just pay for a membership anyway

FIVE

DOLLARS

A MONTH

just get it and download all the memba videos

>>1971025
For Calli, her membership is kinda t3 or bust. Her t1 streams dont really offer anything more than her regular zatsudan. t2 stream kinda hit or miss. But her t3 really hits different, she is much more open to talk about her private life, she let u listen to the preview of her next song, and the chat room for t3 probably only have around 100-200 people, what you say can be easily pick up. Ultimately really make u feel like u are in sum exclusive club. But then again is $25/month, is worth only if u like really her, if not she release all her member stream 1 month ltr, so its not like u will miss anything.

I torrent them

>>1974571
The fuck. 25/month to hear calli talk? How are people not more angry at her for that

>>1974887
>25/month to hear calli talk?
And not a penny less.

>>1971025
if she learns how to sing, maybe

>>1971025
Maybe they are if you like some girl much more than others.
Or if she puts behind the paywall most of her content like Delta, or base features like Coco chat.

If you want to support the one you like yes. They get a larger cut of membership fees over SCs which is why membership is more valued despite being "less". YT takes 30% of the SCs and hands it to Cover, who takes 30% of the earnings and hands it to the talents.
Lets compare the lowest SC'd EN with the highest (Ina vs Mori)

Ina
>Has a total of $203,084 SC earnings
>Total amount received is $99,511.16

Mori
>Has a total of $590,397 SC earnings
>Total amount received is $289,294.53

Ina has only received a third of Mori's earnings in SCs alone. In memberships, YT doesn't take their cut due to not providing an "active service" like SCs (but still taxes the girl like 5%). So after the 5% tax and the 30% cut for Cover

Ina
>Has a total of 10810 members based on a poll and compared to scraper numbers in January
>Assuming only T1 membership and only the last three months:
>Total amount received is $107,829.75

Mori
>Has a total of 8840 members based on a poll and compared to scraper numbers in January
>Assuming only T1 membership and only the last three months:
>Total amount received is $88,179.00

What this shows is if (You) want to actually support someone, doing so through membership is the best way to do it.
For Ina, her membership fees over THREE months overtook how much she RECEIVED via SCs in her entire lifetime and are COMPARABLE in revenue to her gross SC earnings.
For Mori, her membership fees over THREE months are a third of what she she received via SCS in her entire lifetime BUT are only $2 less on average in revenue.

For another quick comparison to further hammer in this fact: Looking at the middling SC earner (Gura) who has 16050 members:
>SC earnings $453,962 ($222,441.38)
>3mo. Member earnings $160,098.75

Gura's earnings from lifetime SCs are actually LESS on average than the amount she's receiving from memberships.
>tl;dr if you want to support the girls, get a membership

Now if you're asking about the content the girls have, don't member for the content. Even if you don't hate the girl, no membership is "worth it" if you don't do it from the perspective of support. EVERYTHING can be found for free, so if you just want to see the VODs, you can do that without paying.

>>1974887
Anon, why would you be angry at that? I genuinely cam't understand that mindset

>>1971047
That's 60$ a year.1200 bucks in 20 years. It piles up fast anon.

>>1971025
For Ame, yeah. If you like the Vtuber then memberships are usually worth it.

>>1977632
SC vs membership isn't a one-or-the-other; you can do both, so comparing like that isn't that helpful
all you need to say about why membership is better than SC for supporting is that youtube takes a larger cut from SCs
i fully agree that the main reason to member is to support and that the content is just a side bonus- that's why so many people buy the higher tiers that don't give any extra streams
the only possibly justification to sending SC without membering is if you need the attention

>>1977890
Can't agree unless you're a neet you sits in front of the PC 24/7.

What you get for being a member are exclusive streams. However, these streams can only be watched life and do not appear in your usual feet, so you'll miss most of them due to either having to do something else at the time, sleeping or simply missing them because they are so hidden.

In the case of Mori, it's a complete waste of money cause she uploads them after a couple of months for everybody.

>>1977779
>20 years
>fast

>>1977779
>thinking how much it would be in the year 2041 to justify being a stingy fuck
do poorfags really? Mow your neighbors lawn once a month; theres your $5

>>1974887
Deadbraps cannot be reasoned with.

>>1971063
Wasn't this the exact logic some roastie used when bitching about people not giving her money?

>>1977945
it is.

>>1977971
getting 5$ more don't negate the loss anon.

>>1971025
Objectively, probably not. Most of the content they can provide for members is going to be up on the usual pirate sources within an hour, and you'll likely never get to play vidya via the membership unless the chuuba in question has an incredibly small audience.
Grab a membership if you want to support a chuuba or really have to catch their content live. Otherwise don't bother.

>>1977779
You won't last 10 years, let alone your oshi. Call me a doomposter, but I don't see any of the holos surviving even 5 years as their characters. Even if no final yab or epik meme drama happens, it's likely they just decide to retire/reincarnate/change venues, and there's nothing wrong with that.

>payfagging
>ever
ngmi

>>1974887
the money gate does cut down on chat spam, i suppose, and the streams become public after a month anyway.

>>1977941
>Can't agree unless you're a neet you sits in front of the PC 24/7.
I think memberships are more if you want to support the person, rather than the content you get out of it. Since you can just torrent most membership streams anyway (certainly Hololive ones). It's a feel good incentive in my opinion, which is fine. I subscribe to a membership because I don't like sending SC since YouTube's 'rate' that they base the different colors off absolute decimates my currency.

>>1977779
Do you honestly believe Ame will keep streaming into her fifties?

Ame's are some of the best bang for your buck. Nothing extra for T2 or T3, but T1 gets weekly zatsudan streams + karaoke practice. Also cute emotes and you get to join in the H I C spam every time she hiccups.

are they more lewd in the member streams?

>>1979562
no she just talks about freshwater fish for two hours

>>1979359
the more successful 30-something guys who were making youtube videos back in 2008 are still here.

>>1977632
>go to school and work hard all my life
>barely get paid $100k by the time I'm 30
What a sweet gig. How many people apply for HoloEN Gen 2? I know Japs got 6k+ applicants.

>>1979937
I heard like 2k.

>>1979691
Based, I'm getting a membership right now

>>1971025
only is you're a membersheep

>>1977779
>1200 bucks in 20 years
The horror.

>>1980217
i know.

I see superchats as like giving to street performers. If you find someone really talented, you might give them a few bucks. If you see them all the time, and they're dedicated and talented, you might regularly give them money, sometimes in slightly higher amounts. Youtube monthly memberships generally fall into this idea. If the content is worth it and you like the streamer, support them if you got some extra cash (especially if who you are supporting is struggling financially). I wouldn't support anyone from Hololive, or any corporate agency for that matter. If I give to a street performer and every 2/5 bucks is going to his boss (who also pays him) I would feel scammed. I know superchats have bigs cuts on them, so I'd only donate through membership if I knew my money wasn't being picked apart before being given to a streamer. Inb4 poorfag.

>>1981879
Forgot to mention, in this comparison, the member reward equivalent would be giving to a street performer for a song request.

>>1971025
No. If you want to throw money at your oshi I'd recommend just buying her merchandise.

>>1977632
>In memberships, YT doesn't take their cut due
No, YT also takes 30% of memberships.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7491256?hl=en&ref_topic=7581081#zippy=%2Crevenue-share

>>1981879
Youtube takes 30%, then Hololive takes 50% leaving the Vtuber with 20%. They also have to pay taxes on that. So if they're bringing in $500k, then they will see $100K of that minus 18% they'll pay in taxes, leaving them with around $82K. Some cases you'd have to break down more by year though, because Pekora Coco, Rushia, and Korone have brought in over 1 million gross, but they have also been around since 2019. Gura and Cali though have been around for 6 months and brought in around a half million each with cali surprisingly bringing in more than Gura. Guess Cali's simps like to bully her with cash harder since the bulk of Gura's seem to just have subbed for the bandwagon meme. Then there are holos who aren't going to last in this like moona who brings in 40k which she sees around $6.5k. 4/11 will be her one year anniversary and all she'll have gotten is $6.5k for around 200 uploads many being 2-5hr long streams.

>>1983355
I feel like with how profoundly awful moona's social skills sound from her stories and time playing and her stories about her family they'd be happy with her having any job, even if it's only half the average income for indonesia/malaysia

>>1983355
a slight correction, it's 30% to youtube, then split (50% of the rest) between cover and the holo.
that's 35% not 20%.

>>1983355
Does this split occur with memberships or just superhcats? Or is there an alternative split for memberships?

>>1974571
I wouldn't mind Ina experimenting with tier 3 streams

Ame does the most membership streams, usually fun zatsudans or jam singing, Gura will sing for you or stick her tongue inside your ear. Both are good choices

>>1971025
Depends on the membership and at which level.

>>1980033
only reason to get a membersheep is to hear her say「メンバーシープ行ってらっしゃい Welcome to membersheep」

>>1985274
ina only wants to make friends in her spare time

>>1985227
It is probably from all adsense revenue which includes advertisements, superchats, and memberships.

>>1988558
Well yeah mommy Youtube always gets a share. I was wondering if Cover took a cut from memberships like they do from superchats or not.

>>1971025
for me
Ame>>>Gura>Mori>>Ina=Kiara

>>1977779
>1200 bucks spread over 20 years
That's literally nothing

>>1988731
What are Kiara's member benefits? Just watchalongs?

>>1974571
I guess you'll miss out on some context when you miss out on one stream during the period it's happening in. Not an issue if you don't care about following her life/progression and more about the content. But even then you can just stick to VODs and you could see them all chronologically anyway.

>>1979485
She really does them weekly?

>>1989103
I'm not a member from day one & there're some that went unarchived. But yeah, it is a weekly event.

>>1985227
It's everything, ads, superchats, memberships. The company, youtube, and government get their cuts no matter what.

The only thing that I know of that hololive members are getting to keep all the money of is merch sales. Which is somewhat surprising since normal band and idol groups make the bulk of cash from merch. So if you really want to make sure an idol is getting all your money buy merch. Giving them a $100 red superchat is like giving them about $16.

>>1984639
Sad thing is that moona isn't even the worst. She's more like the lower middle. So about half of hololive are getting paid even less than her.

>>1977632
>What this shows is if (You) want to actually support someone, doing so through membership is the best way to do it.
this makes no sense. the maximum i can spend on my oshi's membership is $120 a year. i am looking to spend double that amount every month. you're obsessed with the fucking revenue split ratio to the point that you completely forgot about satisfying absolute revenue targets.

>>1977941
>What you get for being a member are exclusive streams. However, these streams can only be watched life
this is false. most member streams are archived and you can go back and watch them any time you want after they're over.
>and do not appear in your usual feet,
haha foot
>so you'll miss most of them due to either having to do something else at the time, sleeping or simply missing them because they are so hidden.
member streams are normally announced and scheduled in advance. you will have plenty of advance warning if you want to watch it live.