/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1969632
Its because faggot game companies are striking. Its a problem with YT and cover has no choice

Ok well all those people who said FUCK COVER IM UNSUBBING FROM TOWA have already re-membershipped

>>1969632
THE HOLOCAUST IS A LIE, guys I can't stress this enough, 6 million videos DELETED IN A DAY? there is no way that no one can do that, the thing is that this happened in fucking 2020, it might be possible now (probably not) but in 2020? Impossible
This is a lie that the people are making you think because they want (you) to feel guilt
The holocaust NEVER HAPPENED

>>1969900
Isn't there a fucking universal clause saying that anyone can stream their games? Then why does fucking twitch get away with it?

>>1969999
I mean, it might be kind of believable if they said it was only 200,000 videos, but 6 million is just way too much.

>>1970334
This anon gets it, don't believe the lies, 6 million videos can't be burned and don't leave any proof

>>1970422
jet fuel doesn't melt vtuber streams

>>1969999
Extremely redpilled and based post. Also quads

>>1970013
The laws are different in Japan, they will literally fuck you in the ass without a condom if you're a Japanese game streamer.

>>1969999

>>1969999

>>1970013
No one cares until they got big. Ichikara and Nijisanji arr the only two vtuber companies that have to deal with this shit, Lily from MyHoloTV plays FNAF and plays Paper Please long before it became the trend in Hololive. The stream that Capcom strike AFAIK was an old stream of a ten year old game nobody buys anymore.

>>1969999
Next the surviving videos are gonna start taking Palestinian land and bombing the Gaza Strip.

>>1970688
case in point, the Noel Mace Insertion incident 2 hours ago

>>1970779
>Ichikara and Nijisanji

>>1970839
>Palestinian land
Doesn't exist

>>1970839
>>1970860
Look, they are already here!!!!!

>>1969999
>>1970334
The 6 million videos are spread across multiple channels on multiple platforms, retards. Of course it can't be 6 million if you're only considering one type of channel.

>>1970874
You're probably thousands of miles away from Israel and have never used a passport in your life.

>>1970846
G-gomen, I mean Cover and Ichikara

>>1969632
nice trigger

>>1970896
So you are saying that you can delete 6million videos in a day in different platforms? it's still only a day and there aren't that many platforms, even 1 million videos in one platform looks like a bit hard... and the proofs? where are the proofs? where are the remains of the deleted videos?

>>1970860
Fuck you Islamophobe, Palestine is real!

>>1969999
i like how views rhymes with jews

Fuck Cover

>>1970929
Please take your schizo meds.

>>1969999
Based and Redpilled

>>1969999
Kek

>>1969999
Holy shit the quads

>>1970013
Hololive just lied about getting permissions, that's it. Coverfags want to change the entire copyright laws because faggot managers didn't nother doing what every other company did

https://soundcloud.com/fuck-cover-ch/fuck-cover

COVER HATE

>>1969632
Blame Japanese lawmakers, not Cover.

>>1969999
the amount of ogey is unreal

>>1969632
The chinkoids aren't even trying now.
What's the matter, Zhang? Already maxed out your social credit score?

>>1975182
sounds based desu
more companies should force copyrightniggers to spend time and resources instead of just sitting back and letting the paralyzing fear do its job

>>1969632
stop posting this assholes reupload of a kind anon's work
https://files.catbox.moe/v3gzav.mp4

>>1969632
Clipper shit reuploading some anons work to gain views on youtube, stop shilling them you fucktard

This isn't Cover's fault you fucking retards.

>>1970013
>>1970688
Its not really legal in the US either, just game companie ignire it. If you want to take down a let's play of your game, you can certainly do so.

Surely some paypig hyper autist has been backing them all up, right?

>>1980468
funny enough the most complete archives are chinese.

>>1969999
I kneel

>>1969632
Top comment:
>This is so horrible and scary at the same time i cant imagine how chaotic this arc because im new on the rabbit hole

This you op?

>>1969999
I fucking knew it
Unfortunately the world is not yet ready to handle this rrat.

>>1975182
FUCK COPYRIGHT

>>1982396
yes das me, i also keep the forbidden knowledge secret

>>1969999
them digits dont lie

>>1969999
the most true rrat seen on /vt/, digits never lie

THINGS COVER STAFF SHOULD DO FOR THEIR TALENT
>Help them organize schedules.
>Talk to other managers to help organize collabs. Say one stream Holo A says she'd like to collab with Holo B someday but she's too shy to ask. Holo A's manager should at the very least float the idea to Holo B's manager.
>Get permissions for games they want to stream.
>Keep track of their physical and mental health. If it looks like they are getting burnt out, give them a break.
>Make sure their connections and equipment are functioning well. Buy or reimburse them on things they need to stream. Lobby to fix problems with models or rigging if there is any.
>Watch their streams when possible and monitor any technical problems or interruptions.
>Teach them basic coporate OPSEC, research and scrub their past lives to avoid doxxing.
>As much as possible, keep track of Antis. That's not to say every anonymous comment can be followed up on, but if some guy says he knows where a Holo lives and is gonna visit her, maybe take action.
>Teach the newer ones how Hololive works, what will be expected of them, both from the fans and the company. This includes memberships, concerts, collabs, merchandise, pricing, etc.
>Support and protect them from outrage nothingburgers by Antis (this includes easily offended insectoid bugmen)
>Hire competent staff with background in talent management for managers, translators, mods, etc.
>Filter questions/SC for harassment, self-help, and not interesting questions.
>Use their prestige and connections to hook their talent up with songwriters, movie makers, artists, who want to make things for them.
>Screen all fanmade content that the Holos want to feature.
>Help foreign ones with visa so they can stay in Japan.
>Give Watame an oppai mousepad.
>Focus on EN and JP Holos because they are the only important ones.
>Put some effort into the presentation of their big end of year multi branch live.
>Help them with projects.
>Acknowledge when they fuck up and move to rectify.
>Encourage new and varied content when the Holos come up with it

THINGS COVER STAFF ACTUALLY DOES FOR THEIR TALENT
>Why the fuck would a manager help with scheduling?
>Some managers barely even talk to their Holos let alone other managers. Lamy's manager said she wasn't a good fit with anyone. Coco is being prevented from collabing with EN. Calli may be barred from collabing with certain Holos.
>Just play Overcooked, Dark Deception, and that one fucking "game" with the plug people.
>Harass and stalk them.
>Source your own equipment, not like it's critical to your job or anything.
>Fix your own streaming issues, we're not a tech company or anything.
>Hire SEAniggers who will harass and stalk them.
>Oh hey one of our talents reported that her manager is harassing and stalking her? Better not do anything about it.
>Figure it out yourself lol. Maybe we'll make a keychain for you after two years. Also we decide your image so if Watame wants an oppai mousepad, she can suck it.
>Teach their Holos to apologize for mistakes the company made in an attempt to shift blame.
>Kneel and bootlick angry Antis and suspend their talents hoping it will appease them (It won't RIP ALOE).
>Hire incompetent people with no background in talent management as staff, rather they are just SEAnigger fans (*oserbait) and end up being at best fucking "SAY THE THING" creeps, (like the HoloEN manager Marine met) and at worst people who will one day rape and kill the Holo (*yger, Mel's manger).
>Pick the worst and most Gosling questions.
>Suisei has literally released one original song since she joined Hololive. She released two while she was indie. Kiara had to go commission her own song without Cover.
>Let tracers through and make your Holo look like a fool for having to hastily retract emotes after announcing them.
>Hang them out to dry, not my problem lmao.
>Watame, that's not your image, no oppai mousepad for you.
>Have more Indog Holos because people totally asked for that.
>Nah let's just videotape a fucking screen.
>Shot down Pekora's project, made her cry. Marine has to provide half the funding for her project out of her own pocket, despite Cover raking in millions.
>Oh we gave a bunch of Chinks mod powers in Coco's chat, tech company btw. Sucks that all these fans got banned, just submit a ticket through our fucking website, we have our best intern on it probably.
>Oh Haachama poured her heart and soul into a month long horror arc that was well received? Better tell her to take it all down because we won't actually go to Youtube on our talents behalf. Just like Asacoco 1.0, swimsuits, and public ASMR, it's less hassle just to can it.

>>1970860
kikechama...

>>1982833
>Help them organize schedules.
adults don't need help organizing schedules lol. what, should cover dress them in the morning too and make eggs and bakey for bweakast?

>>1984612
>adults don't need help organizing schedules
yeah, secretaries are a myth

>>1984612
Literally that's what managers for singers, actors, athletes, and even politicians do. That's their number 1 job, to help with scheduling.

>>1984612
um sweaty don't you know that being a vtuber is totes hard? who's gonna schedule their one stream a week hmmm?

>>1969632
anyone wanna report this yt faggot with me?

>>1969999
Those digits don't lie

>>1969942
Why would unsubbing from Towa affect Cover?
That whole campaign was stupid.

>>1969999
Based

I'm a vtuber newfag, only in the last few weeks have I started watching them. I have seen multiple videos of vtubers crying and from reading the comments I had the impression it was largely "antis" fault. I usually browse /mu/ so I don't know the ins and outs of all this, but is Cover responsible for their talents misery? As a total newcomer, I had this notion that all Holo members supported each other and were supported in turn by the staff. Again, I'm an absolute newfag and I'm drunk so feel free to call me a retard, but I'm curious

>>1984935
Do your reps and lurk for 2 years before posting

>>1989336
Do your reps and lurk for 2 years before posting

>>1969999
based

>>1989336
fucking read some threads newfagchama

>>1989527
>>1989609
sorry lads, I know it's annoying. I'll see you in two years, in the meantime i'm fucking off back to /mu/

>>1989689
>>1989527
anon, let me explain the joke
this board has only existed for 3 months

>>1989689
It's not like that anon, Cover employees were streaming games like everyday and a Copystrike came from Capcom against Mio, and everybody lost their shit.

Cover deleted a ton of vods from Shuba but then decided against that so they privated the rest of the vods.

I still remember people downloading archives like madlads.

>>1989689
if you're here still just watch the streams and don't come back, it's more fun that way. just use this place to find new streamers if you really have to.

>>1970860
based

>>1989762
>>1989807
oh come on, the anon has some common fucking sense and respects board culture and you fucks are frothing at the mouth to spoonfeed him anyway. he's being nothing but responsible and you're just reenforcing redditor behavior. kindly stop.

>>1989850
>trying to stop people from helping him lurk the fuck more

this dude

>>1989978
and how are they helping exactly?

>>1989762
i'm aware mate, but the posters here probably have done their 2 years, whereas I'm clueless
>>1989811
fair enough, I know that forming your own views is more rewarding than just copying a board
>>1989807
I see, thanks for answering mate, I'll try to figure it out myself, I know that 4chan is never totally reliable even if you have a good knowledge of the subject. For someone clueless like me, I'll only get confused or misled.
>>1989850
I know it's aggravating when someone with no knowledge invades a thread begging to be spoonfed, and I know that it usually does them no favours anyway. I'm drunk and came here, and was a bit surprised by the thread's sentiment, as opposed to what I've seen elsewhere so I felt compelled to post
>>1989978
>>1990034
lads, forget it. I posted a newfaggy question because I'm pissed. I didn't think it'd get replied to, so as much as I appreciate both responses, i'll happily go back to lurking

>>1990101
hey man honestly much respect to ya, I dig the attitude. I wasn't really aggravated by your question I just know that you're not going to understand an issue just with a QRD in an anti thread. I think from what I can see you understand this too which is why I snapped at the other guys but really if you want to understand a talked to death issue or a matter of board culture then you need multiple perspectives and the best way achieve that is by lurking.

>>1990220
as soon as I posted I thought "If this was /mu/ and I posted the equivalent, what would happen?" and I realised how dumb I was. There's too much I don't understand for me to ask such a question.
Anyway, no hard feelings lads, I'd never have posted only I'm drunk so I'll see you all again when I'm a bit more conversant on all of this.

>>1990366
happy lurking

>>1989336
Redditor here. Their misery is indeed largely anti's fault. Cover is not directly responsible for their misery, however they always throw their talents under the bus, so they are part of the problem. Whenever something bad happens, they kneel to antis and let them get their way. Rather than defend their talents, they will suspend them and/or make them apologize if they did nothing wrong.

>>1990506
*even if they did nothing wrong.

>>1969632
stop linking that dirty chink's channel. All he does is reupload shit off of here.

>>1980392
it is legal you god damn yid

>>1990849
this post the original next time you need to make an anti thread.
https://files.catbox.moe/v3gzav.mp4

>>1979440
hyperbased

that's why they playing suck games right now

>>1969999
Witnessed

>>1969999
Based and checked.

>>1969632
This isn't a problem if your a big dick archivenigger. Back up stuff you like, don't count on it being there forever.

>>1990885
No, streaming games without permission is definitely copyright infringement. This should be plainly obvious because most streamers don't have rights to the game music or other assets. The reality is that most publishers just don't care. But if they did they could strike it.

>>1969999
BASED QUADS.

>>1994021
I mean it's a problem for the holo's morale though. it's not hard to imagine that the whole situation was traumatic.

>>1994021
>streaming games is copywrite infringment
it isn't. not even emulators are copywrite infringement, let alone turning an interactive medium into a non interactive one.

>>1984612
What do you think managers manage for their talents?

>>1994992
their tits

>>1969999

>>1982833
nah i agree, watame's image doesn't go well with an oppai mousepad, she's feel good material, not coomerbait, there's plenty of things you can do with her without needing the lazy "sex sells" approach

>>1979163
Yoo that shit lit (/≧▽≦)/

>>1969999
Oh no, SHUT IT DOWN

>>1969999
>obvious rrat
>quads
But quads are always true...
So the great purge was a lie

>>1994604
Yes, streaming games without permission literally is copyright infringement. Literally just look at it from the perspective of music. If an artist makes music and you stream it on your channel without their permission, they can copyright strike you. Why would you think that changes just because the music is included in a game? And no, muting it wouldn't change it because all of the art assets are copyrighted as well.

>>2000143
copyright laws under their current form need to disappear, they kill creativity and art

>>2000143
>streaming games is copywrite infringment
its transformative, therefore it isn't.

>>1995026

>>1969999
Is this the true power of the rrats?

>>2000143
The game is interactive unlike music
Each interaction the player does generates a new experience and with commentary om top you best believe thay falls under transformative work

>>1969999
Witnessed, put me in the ebin screencap

>>2000827
>>2003835
No, it's not considered transformative. It's literally copyright infringement. If you think it's not, got make a stream with a game that features RIAA music and see what happens. The publisher could strike you just the same for featuring the art assets, but almost none care about that.

>>1969999
I was there to witness it

>>1969999
Checked and witnessed, my god

>>2014220
>no, its not considered transformative
it is. You are taking an interactive medium and turning it into a tv show.

>>2014220
>DURRR THE RIAA WILL STRIKE UR JEWTUBE
they're welcome to strike me in court if they think they have an argument. game soundtracks and digital soundtracks are not under the same liscence.

>>1969999
B-B-Based!?

>>1969999
It was really strange that both Miko and Pekora said this.

>>1970846
A simple mistake

>>1969999
So this is what happened

>>1969632
This dude reposts a months old video from /hlg/ and gets thousands of views off of it, God I hate Hololive "meme channels

>>2014220
While you're probably right, your reasoning is trash, a youtube strike is not case law, it is an agreement between companies.
Nobody died and made google the united states judicial branch.
here's a pretty good write up on applicable case law https://scholarship.law.wm.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3830&context=wmlr

sadly all the cases on it are based on shit like space invaders from the 70s/early 80s, nothing's actually going to court on it, because in order for that to happen you'd have to go out make your own streaming server and go stream something wait for the copyright letter then contest it in court. No middle man company is going to take the legal hit of challenging those letters.

>>1982833
Extremely based and well detailed post from a Wata-mate poster. If people would get their heads out of their ass and learn to read, we would gave more Cover sntis like we should.

>>1982833
Imagine if Cover was actually a competent company

>>2061695
my imagination can only go so far anon

>>1982833
COVER corp. is a cutting edge 2D entertainment company. Please understand!

Cover hate!

>>1969999
legendary

>>1969632
Go be a chink somewhere else.

>Cover Bad
Upvotes please

>>1969999
What the fuck?!

>>1969999
Anon, don't be so ANTI-SEA-metric.