/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

All of them are trash.

I like them all except Sana desu

>>19370896
I think you are right.

A huge mistake. Can we trade them for NijiEN girls?

>>19372443
I like the rat. The others I stopped watching mostly.

I don't dislike any of them, but Bae feels like the only one who wants to be here.

>>19372443
sana already quit.
cover just won't announce it until fes is over and all their council goods are sold out

Replace them all except Bae and maybe Mumei.

>>19372443
all of them are overhated.
Bae, Fauna and Mumei are great
Kronii is alright
Sana is a nigga but she gets more hate

>>19372514
If you do enough slanderous tweets based on minimal information twisted until it complies with the narrative you're pushing, sure!

>>19372443
>rrat
Mating press
>dyke
Weed
>nigger
Nepotism
>Other two
Whores

Sana got jipped with the model they gave her. Terrible design straight out of 2006, terrible color scheme that doesn't even flow well. Her OWN art of the character is leagues better than the real thing. It's not that surprising she'd want to quit after getting royally fucked over by Cover.

People will say "she should be grateful to be a nepotism hire" but what is good about watching your genmates fly past you in subs over a model you had no choice in using?

>>19372564
>Fauna
"Now I can get medicine for the hobo I pretend is a cat"
>Sana
"Now I can be a leech and hang out with Ina in discord more while getting free art promotion and doing no work"
>Kronii
"I'm just, like, sad bro also trannies"

Moom tries to stream despite her other shit going on, Baelz streams like it's a job and she keeps the rest of her shit up too.

>>19372663
It is fair to say that she actually tried during the first month, at least.

Kronii I barely got the chance to get invested in. Mumei I liked best, probably still do, but she's fallen off for me for reasons I can't articulate. Sana and Fauna seem real cool but they just don't make content I particularly want to see. Bae I didn't like at first, and sometimes I struggle to match her energy, but I can tell she's working the hardest of all the council at Hololive and I respect that

>>19372663
She shouldn't have chosen to be brown and ugly. She's a famous artist, there's no way they didn't listen to her input or criticism

>>19372663
gave up too quick anyways, to be fair, i think the model is only a half debuff, a determined person could made it work even with lower numbers, biggest problem for me is the personality, arrogant nature (probably from being a successful artist) awkward jokes on collabs and the "lulz random" streams are all big turn off, she has a soft and cute side but is like only 20% of her at max.

>>19372663
Model debuff is a thing but its no excuse. Just look at IRyS. She powered through and kept going despite the model debuff and now she is one of the most consistent streaming HoloENs, is quite popular, and gets very solid viewership.

Sana's lack of popularity has more to do with her disappearing for weeks at a time than it does her model.

>>19372443
Council is great. Mumei is a goofy weirdo. Fauna has a soft spoken angelic voice combined with razer sharp comedic wit. Kronii is autistic as fuck and its super endearing (that 6 hour autistic house flipper stream was something else). Bae is super hard working, cute, and is so sociable that she meshes well with everybody (the glue of council). Sana is Sana though. It seems that fags here have taken all the bad points of Sana and used that to represent the entire branch. Council is not 5 Sanas.

I love Council

All I know is EN3 can't debut soon enough. HoloEN is dead hours almost all day long

>>19372514
Oh no, keep them. They are one of the motives I stopped watching hololive

>>19372663
Any complaints about her model can be dismissed with "but look at IRyS"

>>19372663
>>19372900
>Sana SC: 99k from 71 streams
>Baelz SC: 159k from 157 streams
If Sana streamed as much as Baelz she would be literally making 200k in SC. There is no "oh she was debuffed" shit, the cunt literally didn't get the results she wanted so she decided she would only stream when her position got her a new game before anyone else or she could hang out with Ina at special events. That's it. There is no way to term her other than a brat.

loved sana so much at first, i'm still incredibly sad to see she fell off so fucking hard. she was by far the most fun to watch the first 2 weeks. gamer, anti numberfagging, stupid and fun little holoscope streams, space autism... now she's just tweeting and streaming pokemon once a month.
i had faith in mumei but she really didn't grab me as much as i wanted at first. when she stopped acting like a deer in headlights, she quickly became my favorite. she's a lot of fun.
bae was annoying at first but now that she's eased more into her natural personality she's great and is a sweetheart.
i hated fauna's voice at first thinking she was just doing some uwu kawaii girl as her main gimmick but she's a shitton more interesting than i expected. i don't follow her too much but i like her.
i think kronii's solo streams still suck, but during collabs she's unironically the best one, her banters with others and her presence in general is unrivaled.

>>19372514
t.Nijifag

>>19372443
Not bad, not great. Council collab just never works out, but after watching the off-collab I'm not sure if it's the poor synergy.

Sana was a big mistake though.

>>19372443
>what do /you/ think of Council?
They're fun in collabs but they struggle as solo entertainers. They're basically a generation of sidekicks and half of them suffer from a lack of either motivation or time to stream. Council isn't a total disaster but it isn't going great and I question its future.

>>19372853
>Mumei I liked best, probably still do, but she's fallen off for me for reasons I can't articulate.
Because you liked launch mumei where Omega asshole the absolute retard told her she couldn't do the streams she wanted to do and even streams about animals and shit weren't allowed because reasons. So Mumei escaped from the cute retard jail cell she got put in and now you dislike her, that's it.

>>19373075
sana's rm tweets a LOT and is super active.
fact that she won't do the same on sana's twitter shows how much she cares about her fanbase

>>19373137
>but they struggle as solo entertainers.
The sign of someone who hasn't given Fauna a chance.

>>19372514
Amusingly even with the massive number of dead hours, the holowhores are still making more money than nijifartwhores.

>>19372443
They don't have Kiara, so that makes them automatically better than HoloMyth.

They're all boring.

>>19372443
They leech off Gura at every opportunity because they can't do solo content.

I don't know when this infographic cuts off, but funnily enough Sana has streamed more hours than anyone else in council. The problem is it was all concentrated Pokémon autism
>>19373220
NijiEN isn't even year old and didn't have a breakout algorithm miracle like Myth did with Gura. The boys look like a big win for them, if they start getting sponsored they'll make it.

>>19372443
I really like Council, mainly Fauna, Mumei and Bae.
Overall Fauna has suprised me the most, I thought she wasn't that strong in the beginning but she has really turned around my impressions of her with her great talking skills, quick wits, decent gaming ability and her big improvements in asmr. She is also a great collab partner for my oshi so theres that to

>>19373254
Chumkek...

>>19373347
NijiEN girls are literally just cumrags for the boys. Outside of maybe Pomu, none of them can carry their weight.

>>19373347
>muh algorithms

>>19373347
Hours mean literally nothing when you can grind it out in a week then fuck off like she did. She has literally ONE FUCKING PUBLIC STREAM in all of February. I'm tired of this
>m-muh hours
shit

>>19372943
>Kronii is autistic as fuck and its super endearing (that 6 hour autistic house flipper stream was something else)
>6 hour autistic house flipper stream
Holy shit, Hololive got Jerma to sign?

I'm going to be blunt. Why do so many members of EN sound like they're retarded? As in their voices, mannerisms etc. I only notice this in holoEN.
t. Someone autistic about streamer voices

>>19373545
Probably cause a lot of them are "forcing" what they imagine their audience wants them to sound like. IE, moeblob Japanese.

>>19372514
Shilling them in every Holo thread you can find, cmon man you are only gunna make people get annoyed with them. or maybe that's your goal idk with these shitposters anymore

>>19373155
No, I'd have really liked a stream about animals or history or culture. Last stream of hers I caught was Needy Streamer Overload where I really enjoyed the character she played. But between that and the song, it's been Just Chatting (which is alright), ASMR (I go to Fauna for that content) and some games that don't catch my interest

Rat is good.

Sana is a lazy whore.

The other three are boring on their own, but seem to collab well. They are sidekicks for Myth.

Love me some Moomers

>>19373594
Creating nijiantis is my personal mission, you wouldn't believe how easy it is to get people to dislike a vtuber on this board.

>>19372443
I used to like none of them except for Sana, now I love all of them except for Sana KEK

>>19373758
They are inclining. Please, keep up the good work

>>19373758
I actually don't hate nor dislike any vtuber. It's just fun to mess around with you guys.

>>19373347
That is only 2021 though isn’t it? I imagine her 2022 numbers are rough with how February went.
Also holy shit pizzadad strong.

>>19373841
Yeah even Kronii the weedlord grew on me. She's funny and intimate with her audience and I liked her the least at first.

>>19373864
>inclining
Yeah I'm sure all those Pippa anti threads made her incline too

>>19372564
Baelz feels like early Ollie in that she actually likes vtubing and is a vtubing fangirl, which would could see even in her heavily restricted past life. Bizarrely irys the vsinger also loves streaming which makes sense given her roommates history but is weird for a vsinger. It makes sense that she and Bae would work so well together since it seems to come from who they are rather than being forced based on what their characters are like takamori was.

>>19372564
>but Bae feels like the only one who wants to be here.
Just because she did a challenge? Fauna clearly wants to be there if you just watch her. Same with Mumei.

>>19374163
Yeah the mandated pairs were probably Time+Space and Nature+Civilization with Chaos as the leader

Out of them it does seem Fauna and Moom have a nice friendship but not a yuribait tier relationship.

Mandated pairs are not a good idea imo and friendships are much better when they develop slowly and organically, like what Baelz and IRyS have

>>19373051
It is whatsboutism but it is still correct. Irys’s model made me do a doubletake at how jarring it was next to others but I don’t even notice it anymore because of her strength as a streamer. Sana has a mediocre model but that is absolutely it the real problem.

>>19374081
yeah Kronii is absolutely amazing. I thought she was overrated at first but she's a really funny gal and has good synergy with almost all of EN, even with Sana who's kind of a tough girl to get chemistry with it seems.

It's crazy how all of the other girls really grew into their roles. I saw myself sitting in Bae's stream nearly the entirety of the birthday call ins because she was just so much fun. She used to annoy me months ago, I couldn't imagine there'd be a day i'd spend several hours in a stream of hers hoping it'd never end.

Also finally gave Fauna a chance because I thought she used to fake her voice which repelled me a bit, but she's so charismatic that I stayed to listen to her talk. She even made me laugh a couple times.

I kept myself so busy with Sana and making up copes for her absences that I barely paid attention to any of the other girls, glad I woke up though.

>>19374346
>I kept myself so busy with Sana and making up copes for her absences that I barely paid attention to any of the other girls, glad I woke up though.

Glad you woke up and got out of that toxic shit. Sana needs to earn people having faith in her. There's a reason people didn't bitch about Fauna when she was doing less streams, and now they're rewarded. Sana has done nothing to earn it when she doesn't communicate and when she does it's all excuses and lies.

>>19372443
I like them, but bad times for EU means they kind of just don't exist for me 90% of the time. I catch up on vods, but while exaggerated they aren't exactly an output powerhouse.

I think they're biggest issue is it doesn't feel like they are having much effect on the branch. Like I don't watch Ame much but her projects have some impact everywhere. Same with putting out songs together or trying new types of content. So far only Bae feels like she is treating it as more than a streaming gig. Fauna tries with her ASMR, but she either needs to experiment more or increase the upload rate. I just don't feel like they've made their mark yet and stepped out of Myth's shadow.

>>19374346
Agreed. And also, the Council girls are so nice to each other, they shill each other regularly and seem like really good friends. I'm glad Moom have them for her genmates.

>>19374502
Only reason I think I had faith in her was because I was a fan of her RM forever. If it wasn't for that, she would have never been my oshi in the first place.

I'm definitely seeing the toxic direction she's going regarding Hololive, and I had enough of it. Wasted money last month on a membership and didn't get anything except for a public valentines day stream for February. Never again. Fauna would at least tell people she would be extremely busy for a month before fucking off, Sana keeps people in the dark.

>>19373075
Kronii’s character is like Daffy Duck, full of hubris so it is great to see her struggle as reality takes her down a peg. It also can work pretty I’d boke or tsukkomi roles, either where she is acting smug and gets instantly corrected or where someone else is doing stupid things and she is exasperated trying to correct them.
This just naturally makes her strong in collabs.

>>19372443
I love them

What makes me wonder is they have good chemistry in the off-collab, but why they always had bad stream as 5?

maybe Sana was the mistake, she has negative chemistry, didn't click with anyone, cringe humor and old joke, makes everyone that talk to her awkward

Council is great as 4

>>19372943
Sana being so bad deflects criticism of the others. Kronii has low streaming volume too but because Sana is so terrible it doesn’t seem so bad. I really think Kronii would stream more if Sana did.

>>19374912
I was gonna argue. But even accounting for off-collab travel you really are rolling the dice when it comes to Kronni, Mumei and Fauna. They'll have moments of fairly normal output and what feels like a series starting and then week break. Even Fauna's last ASMR was 3 weeks ago. Kronii was finally able to start up Hollow Knight again, 1 month ago and half her 10 uploads since have been gaming. I can forgive Moomers cause she has her studies, doesn't exactly help though.

The 3/5 Myth busy doing stuff have about the same if not better out put. Maybe if Council were open about projects they have planned it would seem better.

They're somewhat weak as a group of five but work fine as individuals/small collabs. The Sana situation is awful and management needs to step in and do something.
Also Fauna is my favorite EN and I don't even like ASMR.

>>19376399
Fauna isn't just ASMR though she's also pretty easily the best gamer on Council which is entertaining as well

>>19376554
She also can talk. Like half her stream yesterday was just chatting/scs.

>>19372443
solid gen, great collabs, shame they aren't all streaming at the same time

mumei>bae>fauna>sana>kronii

I like Kroni Mumei and Bae, Sana needs to grow on me but i appreciate her effort production wise.
Kick Fauna out, put IRyS in the council.

>>19376681
>Sana needs to grow on me but i appreciate her effort production wise.
??????????????

>>19376554
Yeah she's great, that's why she's my favorite. I'm glad I didn't drop her after debut when it seemed like she would be focusing on ASMR.

The only holo I still regularly watch is Fauna, but I do enjoy all of council on occasion!

>>19372663
Irys looks ugly as fuck and probably will NEVER get anything new or an update considering how the New Year outfit incident. Yet, she still streams a lot.

Sana straight up doesn't care too much about streaming. Cover hiring her was a mistake.

They've definitely grown on me.
I think Omega's overly chuuni lore really hampered their chances of success so I'm glad theyve escaped that.

I never expected to like Mumei and Bae as much as I do.

>>19376904
It's funny how you can hear the girls audibly cringe whenever they discuss their ""lore""

>>19376704
I liked how after her debut she kept doing astrology streams, i don't know if she's still going but that's actually related to her character also space is such a unique concept for a vtuber.
I think she has potential, i don't know if she's good if that's what you wanted to hear.

>>19377059
"haha civilization"

>>19377132
Anon the reason I'm confused is that she literally streamed only once last month. You can't say you appreciate her effort product wise when she literally hasn't done shit in the last two months.

>>19377059
>Everyone's hyped for the next gen? Lets introduce the new vtubers with 3 "pray to the cube" streams full of nonsense, so that everyone will be bored by the time we actually reveal them.
>Let's make Mumei represent Civilization. Something totally impossible to work with given how problematic anything historical is. Genius.
>Oh, we have a really chill member of the group... She represents Chaos! What a perfect fit.
>We have a talented Vsinger. Let's make it hard for her to gain popularity with a offputting / borderline ugly design instead of something simpler and appealing.
>Let's have management interrupt their debut stream with another chuuni lore video, but never actually do anything with it.

I really don't know what they were thinking.

I was a unityfag before council debuted and after it debuted now I just can't tolerate sana

>>19372443
Stop being obssessed with Ayame

>>19377059
Fauna and Sana work more or less okay with theirs but yeah. They should have done something different for Bae, there's little point in making Mumei civilization if you're not going to let her talk history, and I don't even know how Kronii is supposed to make use of being time.

>>19377825
Sana literally cannot stop making the same 3 jokes (4 now with taco seasoning)

>>19374134
She went from 2 views to 3 views.

>>19374502
Fauna doesn't demand people suck her dick, Sana is kind of surprised when people don't suck her dick. It's a different personality type and Sana-types are infinitely terrible to deal with because they think they're doing nothing wrong while being a cunt.

>>19377825
>there's little point in making Mumei civilization if you're not going to let her talk history
Honestly her problem was asking at all, Kiara has regularly been talking about history and nothing happened.

>Sana
irys feels like more of a council member than she does
>Kroni
early mori, without the benefit of being hardworking or good at making music
>bae
not my type, but it's undeniable she belongs in hololive
>mumei
comedic genius
>fauna
uuuuuuuu

Fauna is probably my favourite out of the five with Bae being second, both of them can really carry a stream well and have a good sense of humour. Mumei is great as well but I rarely watch her streams because they’re always pretty late for me. Kronii probably works best when with the rest but I fit it hard to watch her on own. I liked Sana the most during the first week but she’s basically non existent at this point

>>19377877
she has tourettes pls understand

>>19372443
Sana- Didn't like her much to begin with. Like her even less now. Waste of a spot

Fauna- My favorite initial design, ASMR just isn't my thing though. She's just ok, I'll watch her if no one else is on but she loses pretty much any head to head matchup when it comes to watch preference.

Kronii- Like everyone else I got taken in by the hype when she debuted but over time she got a little bit boring especially in long streams where she doesn't have much to interact with. She's best in collabs.

Bae- Not the biggest fan of her cartoony design and weird streaming types, and forced "hyper/chaos" personality at the start but she won me over with her dedication to streaming.

Mumei- Her VA was initially assumed to get the rold of Petra Gurin in Nijisanji EN I was actually happy about that because I didn't want her in Hololive, I thought she would be a boring Gura lite. I did like the design, my 2nd favorite, but her first weeks were kind of weird with her pretending to be super autistic or dumb. Once she really got her character down and started getting comfortable making content she really shot up in my opinion. If she ever manages to get done with school she'll be unstoppable. Also helps that she's a great singer and has the best Council song so far. My favorite in Council and 3rd favorite after Ina/IRyS.

Bae is my council oshi, but i really really love Fauna too. Kronii and Mumei are fun to watch in clips or in collabs. Sana hasn't really done it for me.

>>19372663
Ollie is a rotting zombie and she hit 1 mil. Sana has zero hustle and clearly doesn't wanna be there.

>>19378936
she could easily stream minecraft for a bit this week and get to 300k. She doesn't care about Hololive and it shows. I can't believe Sanalites keep excusing this behavior.

>>19378936
Ollie's design is actually really cool and she had the most subs in her Gen predebut. Sana's is just dogshit. Not that she couldn't have overcome it by being a good streamer or uh...streaming, but the deck was stacked against her as far as being the most popular out of her gen.

>>19372443
IRyS likes them, so I like them as well, I watch them from time to time whenever I have the time, I think they are good girls

>>19372443
I only watch Fauna and I like her. Mumei and Baelz are annoying as fuck. I think I gave Bae a shot at least 5 times but I just cant watch her. She sucks. Kronii and Sana dont stream so they are out of the equation.

Sana - I did think people were being mean to her at first, but she barely streams and the Council collab showed she couldn't even be bothered to take part in the quiz properly.

Fauna - Love her ASMR and she's pretty skilled at gaming too.

Kronii - Was my fave at first but she didn't live up to the hype. I still enjoy her streams though, but she's not the "Gura" gen breakout I thought.

Bae - The chaos role doesn't fit her at all, but I love her dedication. Shes an amazing singer too.

Mumei - A slow start but she's really blossomed. I love how beyond the cute appearance, there's a dark side that keeps leaking out. Her original song is genuinely amazing too.

IRyS - I expected the EN version of Azki, but to my surprise, she actually streams a ton of games too. Incredibly funny and engaging with an amazing singing voice. The valentines Karaoke stream was genius.

>>19373673
this

>>19378985
Ollie's design was a huge risk and I don't think anyone besides Ollie could have managed it. Massive kudos to her.

>>19372443
I keep the same opinion as 3 months ago, because they haven't done anything to change my opinion and it seems that they are going to stay that way, mediocre and in some cases simply terrible. They have some pros, sure, but their flaws completely overshadow them.
Having said that, after Rushia's yab, I'm looking forward to the day when Mumei or Fauna slip up.

>>19379921
>I'm looking forward to the day when Mumei or Fauna slip up.
Neither of the two are menhera enough, so you'll be waiting forever.

>>19379921
I'm looking forward to the day you hang yourself

>>19372443
>what is your opinion except for my opinion
Kill yourself.
Sana = bae = mumei > fauna (love the voice but she never does anything I want to watch)
and then the clock goes in the trash.

>>19372443
All underwhelming in my opinion, and disappointing by 2021 Hololive standards. Whenever I give them a chance I'm never convinced that they are any better than random streamers. I don't get the appeal, they just feel like regular people, which I can already find anywhere else outside of this medium. For comparison I was extremely impressed by IRyS despite her goblinoid model.

>>19377545
>>Let's make Mumei represent Civilization. Something totally impossible to work with given how problematic anything historical is. Genius.
this still makes me seethe like there's no tomorrow. what the fuck were they thinking, she even had stuff planned already for that. the fact she sneaks in accurate history jokes in her streams sometimes just makes it worse because it means she actually fits the theme.

>>19378983
I mean I like Sana when she streams, I just think the issue is that she seems too indecisive about streaming. She probably should’ve treated streaming as a hobby in a past life and then got into Hololive to dedicate all to work, instead of treating Hololive as a side gig when there’s probably hundreds or thousands of girls that stream for hours, just chomping at the bit for the opportunity.
Of course this also wouldn’t be a problem if Council didn’t come out about a full year after Myth. They don’t need to shotgun Nijisanji debuts either but it probably caused them to lose steam.

>>19372624
>>19372663
Chanting nepotism for months where it does not apply does not make it start applying. Become An Hero.
>>19372869
She isn't ugly. Get some taste, shitter.
>>19372900
Her model is only removing buffs in your head, schizo.
>>19373184
Keep telling yourself that. Not that it becomes valid from your doing so.
>>19373347
More like "the problem is anon is a faggot"
>>19373521
You certainly are shit
>>19373673
Rrat is good. Sana is cute. You're a gigantic faggot.
>>19373841
Gotta try to fit in, right?
>>19374346
If you have to call being patient a cope, no, you haven't woken up.
>>19374502
>rrrreee excuses and lies because I said so!
>not being a faggot is toxic!
Go outside. Breathe fresh air. Cease being a faggot.
>>19374646
>if I bitch enough maybe I'll gain validity
Nope. Still just going to be a whiney cunt.
>>19374648
Clock's "character" is being obnoxious so she isn't worth more than incidental attention.
>>19374744
Or maybe you're a mistake. The only one she lacks chemistry with is clock bitch, and honestly I don't see how anyone can have chemistry with the dumb clock.
>>19376399
>management should go bust her ass so I can cry than cover is a black company!
ISWYDT
>>19376554
>easily the best gamer
If only she played anything I cared to see, so I could confirm that.
>>19376704
Cry som moar
>>19376758
>my progression about this person is true!
>>>/trash/
>>19376904
>>19377059
I think it's kinda silly that you fags care so much about the lore shit that you have to keep projecting about it.
>>19377877
Hey, that's two more jokes than you can make.
>>19378025
>protecting this much
Meds.
>>19378308
>defined my ideas at the start, didn't bother to think because this way I for in with /vt/
>
>>19378936
>someone who's always enthusiastic on-air clearly doesn't want to be here!
You huff too many rrats
>>19378985
Ollie's design is dogshit, what are you talking about. Top this day I can't understand how zoombie bad fans, she's an annoying noisebox with a shit avatar
>>19378983
>she doesn't care because I said so!
Meds. Take them.
>>19378985
>ollie's model good! Sana's model bad!
You contrarian fucks need to get a covid test, all this lack of taste holy shit
>>19379534
How she manages with shit design, shit voice, shit volume control, inability to turn off capslock, and all the rest is a mystery

>>19381232
You should probably chill out like your oshi Sanalite

>>19381232

>>19381232
This is a contrarian and not an actual Sanalite, right?

>>19381232
you okay bro?

>>19381365
>>19381414
Please forgive, he is the last sanallite.

so is /nasa/ just dead

>>19378983
I remember people excused her dog month because of australia shenanigans, but in hindsight it was weird even though this is a remote job her home pc couldn't be set up for streaming or anything. I guess people let her get off once, so she decided she could do it forever. "Work is hard, guys, art takes time". Why do we live in a universe where people who draw furry porn and anime art act like hot shit lol.

>>19372443
debut
>Kronii: Finally a dom holo, her voice is sex, 5/5
>Fauna: ooooh an EN Lamy, she's gonna dry wallets, voice is kind of anoying tho, 3/5
>Mumei: the bland moeblob of the gen, cute design: 3/5
>Sana: this looks shoehorned in from every POV I can think of, model, personality, voice,a ccent, what is this? 1/5
>Bae: Cute and sexy model, great singing skills and knows japanese, this MMIGHT be the Gura killer
Now
>Kronii: This pushover doomer is fun to listen to: 4/5
>Fauna: Very funny and adorable, all arround great to watch: 5/5
>Mumei: quite unique personality feels like a breath of fresh air: 3.5/5
>Sana: I have no fucking idea what's going on here: ?/5
>Bae: ranges from anoying to sex depending on the time of the day, active Bae: 2/5, morning Bae: 4/5

>>19381764
I wish Bae could temper her annoying down just a bit. When she does her screech laugh back to back I just can't help but turn the stream off

Council is okay, they have some really good members and some mediocre. Fauna really stands out to me as one of the higher tier council members. She has comfy streams with good highlights. watching her improve in getting over it has been fun, she truly is a gamer. Mumei is nice to listen to in the background. Bae, though I can't really stand her voice, seems to be really trying hard in the streaming aspect. Kronii to me seems like she really plays off of the model buff she has a little too much. A little weird to me and put me off. She also seems to be the most awkward of the bunch. Not much to say about sana because she doesn't stream.
My tier list would be Fauna > mumei > bae > kronii > sana

>>19381734
I have a dog so I understood her grief of losing a pet she had for 20 years, and not even being there to say goodbye.
But taking a month off is still extremely weird.

It wasn't even specified from her.. "I'll come back when I feel I can smile again." i'm sure Sanalites would've let her grieve/not work for the remainder of 2021 and excused it if she did that..

>>19381683
By the time Sana comes back, idk if /nasa/ will be able to sustain itself. A lot of Sanalites are starting to leave/give up.

>>19381232
you're the last person on Earth that should be telling anyone to take their meds

>>19372443
i think fauna is cool

>>19378044
When Kiara discusses history, it’s celebrity gossip/soap opera-tier chitchat about dead people. When Mumei does it, she calls Medjed a fucky-looking faggot. There’s enough of a difference to see why they’d stop her. Also, Kiara works them in as tangents when she talks about whatever period piece she’s been binge-watching, which is more difficult to control than doing a dedicated stream. Mumei seems to struggle with finding a way to work it into discussions most of the time.
>>19379987
If anything like that does happen, it’s likely to just fizzle out like with Watame.

>>19372443
Leave Sana alone

makes no sense that there are so many posts about loving fauna when her sub, view, and supaa numbers are near the bottom of the barrel. Where are these fauna lovers coming from? Unless it's just one schizo

>>19372443
Fauna is nice. Bae is annoying. No one else streams while I'm awake so I forgot about them.

>>19388025
they're all chumkeks that actually never watch fauna because her oshi is gura

>>19388130
I watch Fauna until Gura comes on.

>>19388130
i watch gura until fauna comes on

>>19388025
She still pulls more live viewers then chimken even though one have almost a million more subs.

>>19388025
>>19388130
I'm a chumbud that made one of those posts and I watch Fauna most in HoloEN aside from Gura

Kronii, barely streams.
Baelz, too boring.
Fauna, there's never any conversation about her. For that reason I do not think she is actually that noteworthy, boring.
Mumei, boring.
Sana, actually never streams. Myth has actually been demotivated by Council's existence. -4/5 for a generation. They KILLED hype for future Hololive EN generations and blew open the door competition got the EN manager fired.

All of HoloEN is good and fuck anyone who says otherwise.

>>19372663
Meanwhile Flare and Nene recovered and did just fine. Stupid nigger.

>>19388307
>chimken
anon please, we both know that's a really low bar

>>19388356
eh i think all of holoEN takes a good niche at least. some are better than worse.

>>19388025
There is no reason to expect posters of this thread to make up a representative sample of vtuber watchers as a whole.

>>19388356
>literal cuck
K, bro.

>>19388025
4chan is not an accurate representation of chuuba audience anon. of course you'll see fauna love posts in /vt/ when it's mostly comprised of cumbuds

>>19382784
>"I'll come back when I feel I can smile again."
>proceeds to appear in every group collab, clearly laughing in the background

They literally killed all the hype and hardwork from holoMyth and damaged the brand name of Hololive.

All of them are below average, you can find any indie with more talent than them, to this day I have no idea how mumei or bae passed the auditions

>>19388598
>and damaged the brand name of Hololive.
to who? and why bae and mumei, who are arguably the best in council.

kronii - worthless whore, should be terminated

sana - even more worthless whore, literal nepotism hire, should be terminated and ina and omegatranny should be punished for getting her hired

fauna - sometimes i forget she exists and that's really saying something considering she's in the same gen as sana, boring and one dimensional

mumei - retarded and not in a cute way, ugly model, has a boyfriend, just plain boring basic thot

bae - the only member of this gen that actually deserves their spot, works hard but often cringy and nothing about her makes me want to watch her over literally anybody else

kronii - biggest disappointment
mumei - singing goddess, shark of this gen
fauna - gura waiting room
baelz - rrat ogey
sana - who?

>>19388673
ignore the saboteur nijinigger

>>19388740
i have no idea why they hate council yet a good chunk of their female branch is struggling.

If you guys want a laugh, follow Sana's roommate and turn alerts on. You'll see how busy she really is.

>>19388778
a post of hers just popped up on my TL from an hour ago KEK. keeps reminding me why I dropped her

>>19388673
They damaged the brand name with really bad streamers that also don't stream.

Bae and Mumei are boring as fuck, zero talent as entertainers, the only reason people watch them is because they want to fuck their designs

>>19388740
I don't even watch nijisanji, so stop trying to provoke a company war.


holoX>>>>>>>>>>>Council

>>19388025
Fauna is decent, worst thing I can say about her is that her mannerisms are very repetitive, but she's the most inoffensive member out of the lot.

Big thing detracting from her statistics is that she drags out a lot of ongoing series for quite a while, retention for that is always bad, and the games she plays between those episodes can be filler trash or coming in too late for the game of the month. Minecraft is also a nerf for her because she doesn't do stuff in the servers, but standalone speedruns which isn't what anyone wants to watch minecraft for (I think she's transitioned to GOI during chat segments, which is a much more concise and interesting speedrun).

The only thing that's weird is ASMR not putting her leagues ahead of every ENtuber in terms of SCs, I think it's because she holds herself back and doesn't go on for long enough, it's a very clinical instead of personal. Ironically Gura's few ASMR streams are much better at tapping into making it work.

>>19388888
holy shit these digits
sanalites btfo

>>19388778
>retweeting retweeted art
For what purpose

>>19388778
i dont get why she is allowed to have actual holo accounts follow her, isnt that forbidden?

I still hate all of them

mumei, baelz, and fauna seem to be the only three that enjoys streaming and has motivation to try and bring different things. kronii and what's her name i'm not going to follow anymore

>>19388888
usualy i forget she exists, but that one made me unsubcribe on yt, and block on twitter.

>>19388777
That’s exactly why. With Mumei specifically, it’s because their roommate prediction for Petra was wildly off the mark, and the girl they hyped as the Gura killer became the runt of the branch until Ethyria came along.

rrat is good
bird and clock are okay in clips so you don't have to sit through 12 hours of dead air to see the one interesting thing they say/do in a stream

>>19372514
As long as it's not Nina then sure

>>19389047
this is the same impression that I get from council. they seem to be the only ones who want to cultivate an audience. with kronii, it seems like she treats her viewers as horny little kids, and if that's how you see your audience that's all you're going to get. sana is obvious that she doesn't care.

>>19388987
No

>>19372443
>fauna
uuuuu
>everyone else
who?

>>19373530
Yeah, didn’t you see Bae’s birthday stream?

what the fuck is up with sana hate??? She's bearing the cross for yall. Like someone had to be the colored, less loved chuuba in this gen and they decided to toss sana's roommate, who already has a comfy job, in rather than wasting a valuable talent to that position

>>19388025
It’s hard to know what is an accurate representation of interest in vtubers nowadays. Subs can be useful but are also unreliable when most can be a dead statistic.
Personally I like Faufau because of her cute singing and it’s fun to watch her play vidya. Not much more to add.

>>19372443
kronii: streams are as boring as she is doing them
fauna: i think she sounds funny
mumei: i think she acts funny:
sana: dead account
rat: only important member

>>19372443
counci is as good as myth, except Sana, she just doesnt stream, its not even about her skin (i unironically think her model is cute)

>>19388909
>He thinks holoX is better

>>19389699
She literally had 1 public stream during febraury while being extremely active on her roommate account.
This month turned the apathy into hate. Before you could have the excuse that she was busy or something but nowadays it's clear she doesn't cares anymore

Also remember this board has several aspiring vtubers. Seeing someone with 0 streaming chops get in due to connections and then waste the opportunity given to her infuriates them to no end. And understandably. Sana earns more in a month than my third world ass does in like 5-6 months and has done nothing to deserve it.

>>19372663
the muh brown people argument is garbage anyways. Yeah her outfit colors are bad, I'll agree with anyone on that. It's her own fault, bad voice, bad schedule bad games.

>>19397119
holox is extremely solid as well

>>19381232
holy shit! is that the last Sanalite himself?

>>19381232
you seem to be really desperate for (You)s so heres mine

Legitimately wonder how many of the people in here dunking on Sana and singing the praises of Mumei and Fauna were the dipshits posting bf rrats and calling them sluts 6 months ago. /vt/ is the deathbed of sincerity.

>>19403294
Cope sanakek

>>19403339
March in lockstep seething about a vtuber because the rest of the board spends their entire time circlejerking about hating them while pretending they watch any of these girls

>>19380249
>>19381232
>>19385213
>>19389699
I didn't know sanallite still existed

>>19388598
>>19388909
>Owl and Rat Boring
Shit taste

Their lore was saving the world from the void or something then they immediately acted uguu retarded in their debut.

>>19403294
They deliver results. Most faults, real or perceived, will be forgiven based on that. Also, in Mumei’s case, it was primarily just that samefagging furry.

>>19372443
Bae is objectively the best one and I hope she surpasses the others

>>19372443
Kronii and Mumei should play together more, hell make a channel like Two Best Friends play.
>>19403810
>>19406505
Rat is shite but still better than Sana

>>19388025
/vt/ isn't the real world anon

>>19372443
I like them they took awhile for them to grow on me especially Mumeisorry moomans they definitely didn't have that pop that Myth did where everyone had something really really good to offer, even Lammy call them the genius generation, so I think next time Cover brings in the next for EN they would have to really pull in people like Myth.

The rat is ogey
Sana is a lazy shit
The rest of them are used goods

Kronii is sex
Mumei is the second cutest EN girl behind IRyS
I like Bae more than I thought I would
I initially didn't like Fauna because I couldn't stand her sing song Disney Princess voice, but she's grown on me slightly
I initially felt bad for Sana being so far behind the rest of Council in subscribers, but now that it's clear that she doesn't give a shit about her job I've become a borderline Sana anti