/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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>>18848341
Here Your (you) Anon

oops

>>18848341
>You dont get it anon, this IS ZA PLAN!

>>18848341
???

>>18848341
They're trying to save us but crashing the market

>>18848748
>Hololive 62 active vtubers vs. Nijisanji's over 200 (which include the Chinese VirtuaReal).
Me thinks you can't count.

>>18848748
Okay retard

>>18848748
Not comparable in the slightest.

>>18849352
>>18849343
>>18849111
This is rich

>>18849418
I accept your concession.

>>18849343
Where are the new boys

>>18848655
>choking out any hype HoloEN males could have had after you had lightning in a bottle
>new gen announcement will cause the previous gens to incline, like it historically has
Tell me how this is bad business anon?

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>>18848341
The ENMale market isn't even close to saturated

>>18849614
>choking out any hype HoloEN males could have had

>>18849614
>new gen announcement will cause the previous gens to incline, like it historically has
Bullshit, Niji girls did jack shit to boost the gens before them. Luxiem just boosted themselves since they have a completely different fan base than the girls.

>>18848341
I crave diluted hotcakes

>>18849618
I've somehow just noticed that there's a point where this meme stops pretending that Hololive has actual variety in content and just starts namedropping like it means anything

>>18849926
The numbers don't lie.

>>18849618
>>18849985
this meme for some reason calls subaru a duck as if that was the original idea, they should try harder

>>18850089
So they get a temporary boost and go back down? No wonder they have to keep shitting out waves.

>>18849618
This image is some form of high art

>>18851236
>go back down
They're still higher overall than they were before, even if the full spike (obviously) doesn't stay.

>>18848341
>I have to watch every single one
t. hololive retard

>>18851236
>11/20 vs 2/5
Do you have non-functional eyes or are you a lying kike?

>>18848341
*The OG that oversaturates their own market*

nijinigs digging their own grave

>>18848341
>cant oversaturates if you just axed the other branches

>>18849614
Yeah, after gorillion waves OG nijis all have 10m subs and 500k average CCV.

>>18849782
He didn't say anything about the end of Hololive, just wrangling as much of the audience for male EN's as possible.

>>18849343
holy fuck no wonder niji doesn't have any merch of their livers, there's so many of them that all they can produce is generic acrylic stands and buttons. NGL im jealous of holo fans that get plenty of unique merch. i really don't get why niji thinks it's a good idea to oversaturate like this and people lick their boots to defend it

>>18854946
>people lick their boots to defend it
This is what i dont understand the most. The fanbase defend this just cause "muh jp was like that too", "muh niji culture", like bitch look at what happened to most of them!
And everytime you brought it up, they'll be like
>w-well you caN jUst watCh wHoEveR you like
And then they dare to bring up "muh chemistry is better" argument right after

>>18854946
But Nijisanji has tablewear, clothes, high end scarves and purses, candles, rings, perfume, gunpla, curtains, bodypillows, shoes, bags, wallets, etc

>>18848341
Nah. Makes sense to release another male gen quickly. They want to try to corner the homosex and femcel market asap, before Hololive can steal it.
I wouldn't be surprised if they try to squeeze out another male gen.

Who's the first EN to get axed and why is it Petra?

>>18848341
It's actually sort of this weirdly brilliant strategy of just acquiring all of the talent. It doesn't even matter if it's good or if you have a plan. Just take people away from your competition / make it harder for your competition to have good talent. And, man, even if you like really really want into hololive just because you like it and their talents, if Niji is like, hiring for their like seventh eight gen? Come on. You're going to take a shot. They don't give a shit. You'll get in. But will you get into hololive? Probably not.

>>18854946
"Oversaturation" isn't a real thing in an industry that keeps growing every year. There have been oversaturation claims every year since 2018 and the argument has never held up.

>>18849614
>>new gen announcement will cause the previous gens to incline, like it historically has
Literally never worked because there are simply too many to follow
Most niji end up indie tier in terms of obscurity thanks to being literally choked by the mass production of vtuber their company does, it's just the natural way of things too in any industry.

>>18849618
>some of them have jobs
I chuckled

>>18855186
please show me, i would love to buy a Vox body pillow and wallet lmao

>>18849618
This would hit harder if most of the Hololive kept to their character instead of just becoming their regular selves with themes.
Not to say I don't like their regular selves.

>>18849618
I do like that this image is a time capsule of "/v/ found out about vtubers and they like Hololive"

Hiring westerners to be vtubers is a huge gamble. It’s only a matter of time until Anycolor fucks up and hires someone who just can’t keep their mouth shut about politics and tanks the whole branch.

"and thats a good thing!" - nijifag

>>18856857
Yet across all the EN corpos that don't have /here/ tubers it has yet to happen.

Whether a single Niji liver gets twenty ¥10k superchats, or twenty Niji livers get a single ¥10k superchat each, the company will get the same cut out of it. So they probably figure that it's better to have dozens of livers that perform average or even kinda poorly than having just a handful that perform amazing. Cast a wide net to attract a wide audience, and it doesn't matter if some of them quit since you're always debuting new waves anyway.

Let's be real here NijiEN was reclining until Luxiem finally made people pay attention to them. The most Noxify or whatever will do is plateau them, but they are now decisively HoloEN's main competition (Vshojo are not competitors because they aren't real vtubers).

I wonder if this is the gen that claimed to also be from here with one of them saying they had a lemon hat and another saying they had an icecream hat.

>>18856111
he's talking about nijien you absolute moron. This literally happened, with them getting more subs after waves happening.

>>18849343
funny how there's tons of graduated in that image and no one talk about it

>>18857435
Vshojo are actually fighting HoloEn for the same male simp market. Niji being overtaken by males is putting them squarely outside being HoloEn competition and instead they're providing a whole thing.
And by the logic of "Vshojo doesn't count" NijiEN were always HoloEN's main competition, from day 1.

>>18857601
Lets see after wave 7 or 8 in 2 months

>>18848341
the point of Nijisanji is to pick who you like and watch them, no one is asking you to care about all 20. no matter how much the chuubas themselves shill their genmates

>>18855094
the ones bringing up chemistry are holofans, imbecile
>like bitch look at what happened to most of them!
Most of them are successful, moron. You don't even watch nijisanji, you know nothing but hearsay from schizo retards from here.

>>18857687
There's no audition, faggot. This here happened to make 10/10 for boys and girls and was clearly planned

>>18857663
basically nijikeks lost too holobronies for the en simp market

so theyre targeting fags and troons and may allah forgive me for uttering this word, women

I guess it's because the first NijiEN males make tons of money. Although I still don't know who the fuck is giving it to them.

>>18857663
>company of actual whores fighting holoEN for space
Your post is worth a (You) if only to ridicule the premise.

>>18855186
Only for the top circle WITHIN the main branch tho

>>18857690
>i-it's all holofans

>>18857688
Would sound like a good idea but in reality they will cannibalize Luxiem's fans. The idea would be good if there were a constant stream of new fans willing to choose, but being limited only makes them dropping their oshi for another one

>>18849618
How to say you don't know Nijisanji in one image while you repeat any fanmade lore for Hololive. Yes Subaru is a duck and Ame is a time traveller. Mito is a high school girl. That's so true.
You could make the same image the other way around depending on how you phrase it.

>>18857935
That has been said many times and has yet to happen. When Obsydia debuted, then Eytheria. Obviously they are in stage if growth.

>>18856857
This time for sure!

>>18849614
>>new gen announcement will cause the previous gens to incline
that's definitely how it works, especially now that niji have over 300 livers that nobody can name.

>>18858502
Yes, all 300 Niji ENs.

>>18856857
Surprised Nina didn’t go full Mana Futanaricoochie and start letting her commie BLM LGBT mask slip, but with western women seeking validation it’s only a matter of time

>>18857663
It’s a different market, one side calls holo pedophiles and hate anime/are ironic weebs that like hearing about how veibae shlicked week old cum out of her vag before starting stream. The other side is just entertainers trying to entertain :)

>>18858502
God I hope Artia joins NijiEn

>>18849618
ah, so lore is important I see

you should of it like hotel franchises.
most of it is just existing hotels slapping a corporate brand on top of the building
those hotels always existed (as indies), it doesn't change the market saturation in any way
slapping your brand on more hotels doesn't weaken your brand as long as you've actually made sure that the indie wasn't shit.

>>18849343
god i fucking hate these designs so much

>>18848341
I never would have thought they'd manage to bait fujos and yumes that hard.
They struck gold with luxiem, which makes me seethe because I enjoyed watching NijiEN before luxiem debuted.
Now they keep flirting on stream with the girls and I can't watch this shit.
Goddamn it manjisanji.

>>18849614
Holostars EN males would leave Nijisanji EN in the dust. You underestimate Hololive's brand power.

>>18859675
What power do they have with women?

>>18859561
>Now they keep flirting on stream with the girls and I can't watch this shit.
but i thought they yume/fujo pandered

>>18858857
People change. I think with her new job she is just happy. BLM and stuff in video games was everything to talk about back then and you basically had to participate or be called out as a biggot.
Who cares now? I still think she is left leaning but all the girls are.

>>18848341
Either they will or someone else will
I'm pretty sure that if Council were to debut 2 months after Myth they'd have much better /numbers/

>>18859675
> Idol company
> Won't communicate with the girls on stream
> Will debut after 300 generations of Niji EN males
ogey

>>18859561
Also, they're fucking annoying. Their humor seems to entirely consist of pog, amogus and loud = funny.

>>18860159
If they were debuted 4~6 months after they'd be in better shape. You don't need to burn out Myth, draw more eyes due to new debuts, striking while the iron is hot with the vtuber explosion, and if they didn't pan out you could easily debut another Gen six months from then.

>>18857891
Yes, stop seethe

Holobronies truly are the apple cultists of vtubing

>>18859881
>but i thought they yume/fujo pandered
Yeah but apparently their female fans either don't mind or love their interactions with the girls.
Idk the only thing I'm sure of is I'm not the target audience anymore.

>>18860264
>Also, they're fucking annoying
Yeah, pretty much.
And god do I hate it when they do shit like ranting about peepeepoopoo and not washing their hands, ugh.
I hate it but I can't deny they're popular.

>>18857832
>Only top
>Gaku, Hayase and Ichigo have merch

>>18857832
>Only for the top circle
Riiight, I'm led to believe that Oliver is top circle.

>>18861240
oliver is part of the most forced gen
didn't you see this ridiculous shit, putting a literal who in this announcement?
https://twitter.com/nijisanji_app/status/1489222684596649993
he is also the mutt who's been in charge of pozzing the jp branch with ENshit so he's probably enjoying some special privileges

>>18860439
it's always hilarious to me when you see some retard like this say holobrony when he doesn't realize every single person who isn't into vtubers will see everyone who's from this board as a brony tier tranny. It's sad how little self-awareness this board has

>>18848341
You don't understand anon. They are called 2434 for a reason. That's the amount of vtubers they want. We still just in begining stages.

>>18861842
It's because people that break containment from this board are... Holos.

>>18861536
i thought niji was sink or swim with lazy management
why are they pushing and promoting literal whos

>>18862112
they probably learned after what happened with selejo

>>18862138
>Ngo is the queen of NND and an actual VA for a Multimedia project.
>Hisupi become vocalist for her favourite music Producer
>Chigusa is already famous from her past life and still incline.
>the only one who doesn't incline are the one rarely stream to begin with (Toujou and Akane)
Stop using their name if you don't know a jack shit about them

>>18862959
i'm sure you could say something positive about anyone if you focused on small things like that
reality is that the only successful one is ngo

>>18862959
>doing one successfull gig once = successfull, ignoring all the decline numbers all over their chart
Do nijinigger really

>>18848748
holokeks

>>18858857
She was restrained after her Russian only free chat stream, and very much deserved on top of that.

>>18849343
ZERG RUSH KEKEKEKEKEKE

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>>18848341
RENT FREE

>>18864360
>Uttering Ngo's name while saying that about her friends
Fuck you nigger

>>18857690
why the fuck would holofans bring up chemistry when nijiniggers always use that to shit on hololive?

>literally 90% of NijiJP barely have 1k or less CCV
EN was doing great and inclining because they were few, adding a few more made them able to do more collabs, which is also a plus, but if they keep this up and oversaturate the EN market like they did with JP, then they will hurt their talents in the process. They finally got a leg up over the holofags, but now they're starting to do the same fucking mistake they did with JP. Its a dog eat dog world and people only have so much time to watch that many chuubas
t. NijiJP watcher

>>18869750
Genuinely asking, do you feel bad for some of the JPs? I feel like girls like Hayama, Chigusa, Ngo and Nui are stuck in the wrong company.

>>18869846
Yes, I feel bad and salty, which is why I made the rant. Some of my favorites are overshadowed because there's just too many of them around so they don't necessarily stand out. Sure, you could argue that its their fault, but I think if they belonged to a different company they could have stood out more. They're still successful in the grand scheme of things, but they could be even better off if there weren't dozens upon dozens of them in one company

>Hayama, Chigusa, Ngo and Nui are stuck in the wrong company
Agreed, haven't watched Chigusa, but Sango is genuinely a great entertainer and Nui is one of the only chuubas who consistently plays JRPGs
Hayama is an even better example, been watching her a lot since both Roa and Lulu left and she puts in the hours and effort with not enough return

>>18870526
It's never too late to accept the fact that being a female in Nijisanji is a death sentence. It's a joke of a company for a reason.

>>18870692
You don't even know what a death sentence is.

>>18870745
There's no need to lash out at me since your oshi gets shit views.

>>18848341
IS THIS PAC MAN EATING RAINGOW?

>>18870692
>t. EOP

>>18870901
I've seen many indies grinding it out for over a year with single digit viewers. You seem to be an abrasive Holofag assuming I'm even talking about Nijisanji.

>>18869750
>People only have so much time to watch that many chuubas
You're not obligated to watch every one.

Foreshadowing

>>18871012
It's okay anon, just come to terms with it like the anon I was replying to. Your fellow Niji watchers seem to see the writing on the wall.

>>18869846
>>18870526
lol

>>18871022
Sometimes you need to get abrasive when dealing with delusional people who are loyal to a fault.

>>18860264
I see, guy humor. It’s same shit.

>>18871132
Rich.

>>18870526
Careful anon you're not supposed to speak out like this.

>>18870692
>Only 2 males in Niji top 10
>females are dead in Nijisanji.

>>18848341
holostarsEN soon?

>>18871438
Now look at CCV and superchat

>>18854563
DONT CONFUSE JP ID KR

>>18870526
Do you want Nijisanji to replicate Hololive impossible luck? You know that is impossible right? It's not their fault EOP and ESL refused to watch anything that is not Hololive. Ironically, spamming more vtubers is the only thing they can do.

>>18871571
You can't expect to get honest arguments.

>>18871599
They can't replicate it, but they can certainly try to copy what they do.

>>18869750
>They finally got a leg up over the holofags
>t. NijiJP watcher
makes me think

>>18860439
excuse me that ACCENT BELONGS TO ME
BYE BITCH
#nijibrony #justlikeveibae

>>18848341
>oh noooo not TWO male gens ahhhhhh my frail masculinityyyyyy
Why are holobronies like this?

>>18859675
>can't even play fucking miencraft or mario kart together because you are that cancerous of a tumor on normal social interaction and need to protect actual greedy as fuck lowlives liek rushia
Nah. Any maletuber auditioning for hololive is signing their suicide letter.

>>18871701
>copy what they do.
You know it's Hololive who copied Nijisanji, right? From Gamers, to Bakatare etc etc. Everything Hololive did, Nijisanji already done it. In fact Nijisanji actually did more.

>>18869651
it was very touching when chigu ignored her retweet of the new costume stream, but immediately replied to the one of the ENiggers she's sucking up to now

>>18870526
Kek, there're too many (insert whatever occupation in the entertainment world), that's why my favorites aren't standing out.

>>18871878
Yeah, and now it's time to switch the roles. Boxpush more, get more collabs between the smaller ones and the top dogs and promote the two view members.

>>18871701
Good idea anon. I really wish Riku hires a chinese sweatshop that can translate Niji clips in mass amounts. That way, we can have the algorithm on our side and probably get as lucky as our Hololive counterpart.

>>18871952
This but unironically.

>>18871977
But they already did that. Do you even watch Nijisanji?

>>18870526
Why aren't my favorites in AKB48 standing out? It would be better if they were in another group, like Nogizaka46 or NiziU...

Nijicope's getting off the charts here. I didn't think a group of fans could hate its own members this much that a guy wanting them to have more success would be laughed at.

(You)

>>18872013
I mean they kind of tried that, they had many of the holo clippers paid to switch and clip the Niji instead, its not some secret it was public

>>18872023
Call me when Kuzuha and Kanae are collabing with Hajime

>>18871571
what are you talking about, they are all the same branch aren't they?

>holobronies once again seething at anyone who dares be a threat to their precious brand loyalty
Just admit you wish Pomu and Selen were in hololive instead

>>18872435
But isn't Hajime just generally disliked between the company?

>>18855210
hololive will never steal it
different than Cover
nijisanji already had a big female audience wanting more dick that aint fluent in japanese
resulting in luxiem success
since hololive is segregated from stars, if starsEN happens they gonna get part of nijiEN female audience just like lazu/obysidia got from holoEN

being the first is what mattered the most in the end

>>18872702
Pomu yes, Selen no
Selen mogs Watson so hard she made her fps streams unwatchable and I think my oshi would be sad if Watson killed herself

>>18872577
racism

>>18872435
>Hajime
Hajime is not literal who. He is one of the most anti'd Vtuber. Here Kuzuha collabed with Kirame. The real literal who in Nijisanji.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wqzJiModKK8
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PGxuxJMDh_I
https://youtube.com/watch?v=f2_XBSgpyxA
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vq03Zh_FWlQ

seething because your oshi is being overshined by a bunch of dudes? views not as good as they used to be?

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>>18873770
>they wanted to make male and female equal
one man for every hole sounds like a better distribution

>>18869846
>>18870526
>Hayama
true
you made me feel bad for her...
she deserves better

>>18848341
fucking retards